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RJLCyberPunk
May 12th, 2012, 10:03 AM
so where do you think season 2 will take place? Still in our world or back to their very primitive existence in Fantasyland?

BTW I wanted to make a poll but there is no polling option. :(

Skydiver
May 12th, 2012, 01:59 PM
I'm thinking they'll go for the juxtaposition of having real people in fairy tail land, but with memory of who they used to be.

that or in the real world but with magic

SGalisa
May 12th, 2012, 02:45 PM
I read a few comments on OUAT's discussion site, and a possibility is that
Emma ends up in FTL or one of the other fantasy / fairy tale stories, after entering a portal thru the Library. :eek:
;) :D
Not sure how true that is, but I can see how that can dragged out for a season or more.

RJLCyberPunk
May 12th, 2012, 03:36 PM
Hmm... I think Emma would do all in her power to get back to our world if she ends up in Fantasyland I just don't picture her getting used to primitive medieval lifestyle and for that matter I cannot picture Henry himself getting used to it and giving up portable videogames and the internet. In fact that's the mayor problem with this scenario. All the fairy tale characters have gotten used to modern amenities and going back to a more primitive existence is unimaginable unless some of them crave the Amish lifestyle and for the looks of it none of them do. I think that our world and theirs may not be separate worlds at all but maybe a long distant past now just remembered as legends and folklore. It makes far more sense...


BTW: Who added the poll? I know it wasn't me as there is no polling option available (at least to regular members anyway)

jeri
May 13th, 2012, 09:50 AM
I think if they have a choice most might want to stay in the modern world if they can reunite with their loved ones. It would be hard to return to a primitive lifestyle. Our world has many problems, but hey they've got just as many in FTL what with ogres and trolls and people using magic for evil. FTL didn't seem all that happy to me.

RJLCyberPunk
May 13th, 2012, 11:16 AM
I think if they have a choice most might want to stay in the modern world if they can reunite with their loved ones. It would be hard to return to a primitive lifestyle. Our world has many problems, but hey they've got just as many in FTL what with ogres and trolls and people using magic for evil. FTL didn't seem all that happy to me.
No in fact FTL seems as troubled and as dangerous as our world but more primitive on the other hand if magic is brought into this world running in tandem with Science the possibility of the abuse of both increases dramatically.

jeri
May 13th, 2012, 12:03 PM
Bringing magic into this world could lead to some interesting plots. But in an interview with Adam and Edward, the creators of this show, we need to remember about all those other doors in the Mad Hatter's hat
Caution, spoilers in interview :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcBWfJomoy8

RJLCyberPunk
May 13th, 2012, 01:09 PM
Bringing magic into this world could lead to some interesting plots. But in an interview with Adam and Edward, the creators of this show, we need to remember about all those other doors in the Mad Hatter's hat
Caution, spoilers in interview :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcBWfJomoy8


Yes but they do pose the question as whether or not if the curse is lifted would they return to FTL and for all intended purposes the writers rejected the idea simply saying magic comes with a price, I think they very much remain in this world but magic and the doors to other worlds are bust wide open with consequences for the whole world and not just Storybrooke anymore.

Spimman
May 14th, 2012, 08:21 AM
I'm thinking we'll continue to jump between fairy tale back stories while in actual time we're on Earth. That being said, Earth may be changing...

Skydiver
May 14th, 2012, 08:51 AM
I added the poll. anytime a thread creator wants a poll they just need to report a post in the thread and ask for it. and if the mods agree - we do most of the time - we'll add one.

RJLCyberPunk
May 14th, 2012, 03:27 PM
I'm thinking we'll continue to jump between fairy tale back stories while in actual time we're on Earth. That being said, Earth may be changing... As long as they introduce fairy tale characters they will undoubtedly continue with the Fantasyland flashbacks that's not in question. But with magic set loose upon our world also sets out lots of possibilities. I'm surprised to have found fans in a OUAT fan forums that cannot accept the idea and think that the Fairy Tale characters were never brought to our world as the show's premise suggests but simply to a separate world that has no magic.

Skydiver
May 14th, 2012, 05:11 PM
ooh, what about this....the magic comes to the 'real' world....and leaves FTL? In other words, there's only enough magic for one world.

RJLCyberPunk
May 14th, 2012, 06:04 PM
ooh, what about this....the magic comes to the 'real' world....and leaves FTL? In other words, there's only enough magic for one world.

That could be a possibility. It's their world and ours truly separate though? We do have their stories told since time immemorial all the Grimms did is collect the stories they had heard and placed them on their book. If theirs is a separate alternate reality from the distant past i cannot help but wonder how their alternate reality would look in the present day. Would they have developed technology as we have? Would they have a weird combination of magic and science like in Baum's land of Oz?

Mrja84
May 15th, 2012, 09:30 AM
That could be a possibility. It's their world and ours truly separate though? We do have their stories told since time immemorial all the Grimms did is collect the stories they had heard and placed them on their book. If theirs is a separate alternate reality from the distant past i cannot help but wonder how their alternate reality would look in the present day. Would they have developed technology as we have? Would they have a weird combination of magic and science like in Baum's land of Oz?

From what we have seen, FTL and our world run parallel. They left FTL land due to the curse 28 years before Emma's 28th birthday. They have been in our world for 28 years. So...they were not in the past, but a parallel world.

In 28 years how much would have changed?

Instead of science they had magic. Not everyone used magic, but still.

On topic: They are going to stay in our world in Storybrooke, but could they now leave? Is the magic that is coming back only restricted to Storybrooke as the curse was? Or will it spill over the world?

For production reasons, they already built the sets of the town, it would be financially unfeasible for them to discard those sets and have all the actors in FTL which is a mix of sets, CGI background, and woods.

majorsal
May 15th, 2012, 04:21 PM
has it been explained why the curse equaled everyone being sent to another realm that was without magic or their memories? was purpose or advantage would be taken from this?

jelgate
May 15th, 2012, 05:05 PM
has it been explained why the curse equaled everyone being sent to another realm that was without magic or their memories? was purpose or advantage would be taken from this?

Kind of. It hinted at but not 100% proven Rumplestiltskin created the curse to go to the other world to find his son

RJLCyberPunk
May 15th, 2012, 08:17 PM
From what we have seen, FTL and our world run parallel. They left FTL land due to the curse 28 years before Emma's 28th birthday. They have been in our world for 28 years. So...they were not in the past, but a parallel world.

In 28 years how much would have changed?

Instead of science they had magic. Not everyone used magic, but still.

On topic: They are going to stay in our world in Storybrooke, but could they now leave? Is the magic that is coming back only restricted to Storybrooke as the curse was? Or will it spill over the world?

For production reasons, they already built the sets of the town, it would be financially unfeasible for them to discard those sets and have all the actors in FTL which is a mix of sets, CGI background, and woods.

Umm that they have been here since 1984 doesn't imply that it was 1984 in their world, it could just as easy being the case they arrived from their world's long distant past at exactly that year 28 years ago. The reason I think it has had to be a long time ago is because we've had those stories over centuries ago, if it was a parallel the world would not know of Snow White or malefica or any of them but it does. For what the producers/writers hinted at the interview I think that they are now free to go as they please that doesn't mean everybody will go his or her separate way though I think most especially the main characters will remain living in Storybrook but that won't stop them from say pay a visit to New York or Vegas for example.

Mrja84
May 16th, 2012, 07:28 AM
Umm that they have been here since 1984 doesn't imply that it was 1984 in their world, it could just as easy being the case they arrived from their world's long distant past at exactly that year 28 years ago.

The reason I think it has had to be a long time ago is because we've had those stories over centuries ago, if it was a parallel the world would not know of Snow White or malefica or any of them but it does.

For what the producers/writers hinted at the interview I think that they are now free to go as they please that doesn't mean everybody will go his or her separate way though I think most especially the main characters will remain living in Storybrook but that won't stop them from say pay a visit to New York or Vegas for example.

Okay, if they not only went to another world, but also traveled in time. Then I would like to know why and how Rumpel thinks his son is in this time period of this non-magical world.

His son left for a world without magic decades ago (at least). Since we saw Rumpel as he is when Gepetto was a boy we know Rumpel hasn't aged for some time. But we do not know exactly how long it had been from when his sin disappeared and when the curse went into effect.

Not to mention, when August went into the tree, he was instantly transported to our world 28 years ago. Before the curse was enacted. So either the tree transported him or the tree "stored" him and Emma (and then popped them out in order of who went in first) and then waited for the curse to be enacted. But it doesn't seem like that was the case.

The writers so far haven't had anyone (yet) talk about where the stories originated, maybe next year Emma will start asking those questions. But for now I'll settle for a we don't know.

RJLCyberPunk
May 16th, 2012, 02:14 PM
The writers so far haven't had anyone (yet) talk about where the stories originated, maybe next year Emma will start asking those questions. But for now I'll settle for a we don't know.

Well either they came from a distant past in an alternate reality or if paralel in time then someone from their world visited ours eons ago bringing those stories with him or her either way it goes back to good O'l time travel.

Tonks32
May 22nd, 2012, 07:51 AM
so where do you think season 2 will take place? Still in our world or back to their very primitive existence in Fantasyland?

BTW I wanted to make a poll but there is no polling option. :(

I think it would be pretty kick ass if they go back... But it doesn't seem like it's going to go that route...

jeri
May 22nd, 2012, 09:14 AM
I'm thinking that because Rumple created the curse for his ultimate agenda to find his son, and we have seen he was able to manipulate it to his designs, he was somehow able to make them be transported to the world and time where Bae was. After all, it's magic, so I'm sure they will have some "magic" explanation of how this was possible.

RJLCyberPunk
May 24th, 2012, 04:23 PM
I cannot wait for Season 2 and on that note Rumpel's curse has to be the most sophisticated and complex curse ever to debut onscreen. I'm making a whole new thread about it because of that. It deserves a whole separate discussion.

nebulan
June 8th, 2012, 10:29 AM
I hope it's in the "real" world, because I feel like the premise of this show is fairy-tale characters in the "real" world. While we still have some holes in our timeline, I'd like to see more flashback, and bringing Henry and Emma over to FTL for a visit would also be cool... but I want to keep the characters human and in Storybrooke ^^

btw, I don't think time is linear between FTL and the "real" world. If it was, it's possible Bae is more than 50 years old now, depending on how long it took Rumple to build the curse.

I also think that the real-world's fairy-tales didn't come from FTL... If they did then time really is not linear and Bae is one of the brother's Grimm... but chances are, with the infinate universe idea, our universe is one where we happened to come up with fairy-tale characters hundreds of years ago, that line up with people that existed in the magical world. That being said, I think Storybrooke, Maine's universe, while very close to ours, still has some key difference (starting with they probably don't have a TV show on ABC called "Once Upon a Time"... heh recursion) but I also think they don't have Disney, maybe no ABC... but that's just my opinion :P

I can't wait for next season!

TabsV
July 30th, 2012, 01:03 PM
Wow, this is a great discussion :)

I think its actually going to be a mix of both. The curse that Rumple enacted clearly is bringing magic back to Storybrook, and I have a feeling that the lines between both worlds are going to become blurred together, that Storybrook will begin to fade into FTL, and things are going to get uber-complicated because of it.

The fact that Regina looks so pleased when she sees the new curse rolling in proves that something crazy is going to happen with it all, because if it wasn't, she'd be pissed. I think to put it back to FTL completely would make things too easy for Regina to take power again. Keeping it at least partially in 'our' reality would make it slightly more difficult for her to be the Big Bad again.

Artemis-Neith
July 31st, 2012, 12:42 AM
I think it will be more or less what we've seen in season 1: present time in our world, now filled with magic, and flashbacks to FTLand, telling more fairytale stories, and adding some background to people in Storybrook.
One question is still open: does FTLand still exist?

Fantasia
September 6th, 2012, 06:57 AM
I hope the FTL still exists, I'd hate to see the disappearance of Rumpelstiltskin!! There were photos uploaded onto the OUAT facebook this morning as promo images for season 2, and they were in costume, so I'm pretty certain in some way they'll have a return to FTL :D

Mrja84
September 6th, 2012, 08:53 AM
I hope the FTL still exists, I'd hate to see the disappearance of Rumpelstiltskin!! There were photos uploaded onto the OUAT facebook this morning as promo images for season 2, and they were in costume, so I'm pretty certain in some way they'll have a return to FTL :D

Well it's been a series staple for them to do flashbacks.

So I think it will continue that. But instead of just showing us what they forgot, it will show us what they remember. Maybe even what their last moments before the curse was released.