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slimjim
April 25th, 2012, 07:07 AM
OK so they want info about the brotherhood so they torture that guy and he gives it to them.... but then they just keep going anyway.... IN FULL VIEW OF THE OTHER PRISONERS. I wonder how their next interrogation went?
guard: tell me what I want to know before that giant rat thing burrows though your chest
prisoner: no you'll just kill me any way.... you always bloody do
guard: errrrr promise I won't this time?

Ukko
April 25th, 2012, 08:48 AM
They're the bad guys.

slimjim
April 25th, 2012, 08:54 AM
They're the bad guys.
even an amoral person wouldn't hurt someone if not doing so was in their interest

Ukko
April 25th, 2012, 08:58 AM
Of course they would. They're idiots as well as bad guys. Tywin said as much.

slimjim
April 25th, 2012, 09:18 AM
Of course they would. They're idiots as well as bad guys. Tywin said as much.
even small children can understand "go back on your word and people won't trust you any more"

Ukko
April 25th, 2012, 09:20 AM
They can understand "dont stick your hand in the flame, it burns" aswell, but children still get burned.

slimjim
April 25th, 2012, 09:24 AM
They can understand "dont stick your hand in the flame, it burns" aswell, but children still get burned.
children often do stupid stuff because theirs as slaves to their emotions and impulses not because they don't understand why they shouldn't, these men aren't children

Ukko
April 25th, 2012, 09:34 AM
children often do stupid stuff because theirs as slaves to their emotions and impulses not because they don't understand why they shouldn't, these men aren't children

Then why bring children into it?

slimjim
April 25th, 2012, 10:14 AM
Then why bring children into it?
I didn't say kids weren't pretty dumb as well as being emotionally immature

The Mighty 6 platoon
April 25th, 2012, 10:31 AM
They're sadists. The entire point is that Harrenhal has become this mad hellhole and the Lannister soldiers have been torturing people for so long they don't really care about information, they're just doing it for their own amusement.

slimjim
April 25th, 2012, 01:08 PM
They're sadists. The entire point is that Harrenhal has become this mad hellhole and the Lannister soldiers have been torturing people for so long they don't really care about information, they're just doing it for their own amusement.
did you get that from the books? because if so I don't except it as an explanation for something in the TV show

Morbo
April 25th, 2012, 01:34 PM
because they can.

its as simple as that.
remember in feudal societies, peasants and lower class don't mean **** to higher ups. they can rape pillage and burn whatever they want because as far as society is concerned its their right.

slimjim
April 25th, 2012, 01:46 PM
because they can.

its as simple as that.
remember in feudal societies, peasants and lower class don't mean **** to higher ups. they can rape pillage and burn whatever they want because as far as society is concerned its their right.
they can't if they need peasants to be cooperative
given this was suppose to be the south judging by their accent those guards weren't any one's "higher ups"

The Mighty 6 platoon
April 25th, 2012, 03:15 PM
did you get that from the books? because if so I don't except it as an explanation for something in the TV show

No, it's clear in the tv show that the guards are sadists doing it for their own enjoyment.

How much more do you need? A dictionary definition of sadism to pop up?

slimjim
April 26th, 2012, 02:27 AM
No, it's clear in the tv show that the guards are sadists doing it for their own enjoyment.
no it isn't.... at all

The Mighty 6 platoon
April 26th, 2012, 03:13 AM
no it isn't.... at all
Err yes it is. The guards are all laughing and joking while torturing people, and aren't really that interested in the answers to the questions. They are taking pleasure from inflicting pain on others, that's sadism.

magictrick
April 26th, 2012, 05:39 AM
No, it's clear in the tv show that the guards are sadists doing it for their own enjoyment.

How much more do you need? A dictionary definition of sadism to pop up?

It would appear the definition is needed :P

The Mighty 6 platoon
April 26th, 2012, 05:42 AM
It would appear the definition is needed :P

Indeed. Clearly the makers of Game of Thrones drastically overestimated the intelligence of a certain section of the audience.:D

Skydiver
April 26th, 2012, 06:12 AM
They're bad guys, it's what they do.

they're bored and have an overabundance of prisoners so why not torture them and see what happens?

g.o.d
April 30th, 2012, 05:55 AM
they're bored, sadist. It's simple. It's also in books, for example vargo Hoat

slimjim
April 30th, 2012, 05:59 AM
Err yes it is. The guards are all laughing and joking while torturing people, and aren't really that interested in the answers to the questions. They are taking pleasure from inflicting pain on others, that's sadism.
I never got the impression they weren't interested in the answer