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GateWorld
April 4th, 2012, 03:11 PM
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 121</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">Fearing that the curse is weakening, Regina calls on the Mad Hatter in an attempt to strengthen her position in Storybrooke. In the fairy tale world the Queen plots to use Charming to lure Snow White into a trap, while Snow and her friends march to his rescue.</DIV>
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tomstone
May 6th, 2012, 10:44 PM
Awesome Episode. We are getting nearer to the finale and I really love the twists. I really hope Henry will be okay, but I guess this is what was needed to make Emma belief. As soon as he awakes from a Kiss of true love, she will finally get it. At least I hope so.

Its weird though what we learned about the Curse. How can the curse be broken if Emma dies when she is supposed to be the one that breaks it? I really hope they dont go the "Final Destination" route on this. In the secound movie the solution was that someone had to die and be revived.

Inquisitor
May 7th, 2012, 03:02 AM
It seems it's just the way Rumpelstiltskin wrote the curse.

Who is Henry's true love?

tomstone
May 7th, 2012, 03:59 AM
It seems it's just the way Rumpelstiltskin wrote the curse.

Who is Henry's true love?

He is to young to have one, but I am pretty sure the love Emma has for him is enough.

Spimman
May 7th, 2012, 07:17 AM
I'm ok if they choose to leave Henry asleep for a time :eek:


That being said, what an awesome episode. When Rumpy said his little, magic always has a price, line I was wondering what would go wrong.

Inquisitor
May 7th, 2012, 07:47 AM
I think the price was Daniel; she sacrificed the remaining part of her true love, which is a bit stupid.

She did this to get her own happiness and then she purposefully loses it?
Silly Regina, trix are for kids!

I think she'll only find happiness if she forgives Snow and becomes good, but I don't want the series to end that way.

Livestick
May 7th, 2012, 09:58 AM
I think the price was Daniel; she sacrificed the remaining part of her true love, which is a bit stupid.

She did this to get her own happiness and then she purposefully loses it?
Silly Regina, trix are for kids!

I think she'll only find happiness if she forgives Snow and becomes good, but I don't want the series to end that way.

She didn't purposefully lose it. She intended the turnover for Emma. There was no way she could have known Henry would get to it first or that he would eat it to show Emma it was poisoned.

teyla-nick94
May 7th, 2012, 11:51 AM
That was a extremely great episode! I can't believe it! It's finally happening :) The final battle will begin!

I really hope Henry will be alright, I don't want to see him die! I won't stop trying! Why was Emma so stubborn and not even tried to believe! Pinocchio never should have left her alone - I know he was afraid but still....God, I'm so nervous right now...I cannot wait for next week's finale

The way Gold looked at Regina in the end frightened me...he surely didn't thought Regina would come up with this. And I hate Jefferson for helping Regina. Why did he trust her again after everything she did to him and Grace?

Livestick
May 7th, 2012, 12:24 PM
That was a extremely great episode! I can't believe it! It's finally happening :) The final battle will begin!

I really hope Henry will be alright, I don't want to see him die! I won't stop trying! Why was Emma so stubborn and not even tried to believe! Pinocchio never should have left her alone - I know he was afraid but still....God, I'm so nervous right now...I cannot wait for next week's finale

The way Gold looked at Regina in the end frightened me...he surely didn't thought Regina would come up with this. And I hate Jefferson for helping Regina. Why did he trust her again after everything she did to him and Grace?

He trusted her because he's desperate to get his daughter back. He's allowing his grief over losing her to cloud his judgement.

teyla-nick94
May 7th, 2012, 12:35 PM
He trusted her because he's desperate to get his daughter back. He's allowing his grief over losing her to cloud his judgement.

Not his best decision

Mrja84
May 7th, 2012, 01:00 PM
It seems it's just the way Rumpelstiltskin wrote the curse.

Who is Henry's true love?

We wrote the curse that way, because while he wants to help Regina create the curse, he doesn't want the curse to stay on indefinitely. So he doesn't want Regina to kill the only person to break the curse.

I'm guessing if Emma dies (maybe if she only dies while in Storybrooke), the curse would break, but not in the way Mr. Gold wants it to end.

So Rumpel planned this curse so that it does what Regina wants, but not allow her to prevent it from being broken the way he wants it.

RJLCyberPunk
May 7th, 2012, 02:47 PM
She didn't purposefully lose it. She intended the turnover for Emma. There was no way she could have known Henry would get to it first or that he would eat it to show Emma it was poisoned.

magic like revenge always comes with a price. But boy oh boy I would not want to be in Regina's shoes when Emma finally guns for her. The last time Regina confronted Emma physically she ended with a bloodied nose as I recall, this time it's certainly going to get nasty. I wonder if they all return to medieval magic land or remain on this world but I have a feeling is the latter since Rumpie designed the curse with the purpose of finding and getting his son back.

Livestick
May 7th, 2012, 02:59 PM
Not his best decision

Grieving people have a tendency to make bad decisions.


magic like revenge always comes with a price. But boy oh boy I would not want to be in Regina's shoes when Emma finally guns for her. The last time Regina confronted Emma physically she ended with a bloodied nose as I recall, this time it's certainly going to get nasty. I wonder if they all return to medieval magic land or remain on this world but I have a feeling is the latter since Rumpie designed the curse with the purpose of finding and getting his son back.

It does, but I don't think there's any way she could have anticipated that price might be Henry. Especially since she's motivated primarily by revenge, which also has a tendency to cloud one's judgement.

tomstone
May 7th, 2012, 03:04 PM
We wrote the curse that way, because while he wants to help Regina create the curse, he doesn't want the curse to stay on indefinitely. So he doesn't want Regina to kill the only person to break the curse.

I'm guessing if Emma dies (maybe if she only dies while in Storybrooke), the curse would break, but not in the way Mr. Gold wants it to end.

So Rumpel planned this curse so that it does what Regina wants, but not allow her to prevent it from being broken the way he wants it.

It could be that Emma is connected to the Curse. One ingredient of it was the True Love of PC and SN, Emma is just another form of that Love. Since they got the same source they are probably connected, while I think that Emma is the one with the Magic and the Curse just uses that. So in the End the Curse is kind of feeding from her, so when she dies it got nothing to drain. Since the Curse is weakining only by Emma coming to Storybrook, kind of speaks for it that Emma has to be away in order for the Curse to stay strong. It could be that she is what is grounding all of them in our World.

There is that other possibility thought thats a bit simpler. The Curses purpose was to take away SN and PC happiness, so if Emma dies there is no reason for the Curse to continue.

RJLCyberPunk
May 7th, 2012, 03:44 PM
It could be that Emma is connected to the Curse. One ingredient of it was the True Love of PC and SN, Emma is just another form of that Love. Since they got the same source they are probably connected, while I think that Emma is the one with the Magic and the Curse just uses that. So in the End the Curse is kind of feeding from her, so when she dies it got nothing to drain. Since the Curse is weakining only by Emma coming to Storybrook, kind of speaks for it that Emma has to be away in order for the Curse to stay strong. It could be that she is what is grounding all of them in our World.

There is that other possibility thought thats a bit simpler. The Curses purpose was to take away SN and PC happiness, so if Emma dies there is no reason for the Curse to continue.The curse was designed by Rumpel not by Regina and he created it with the sole purpose of finding and getting his son back it's obvious by now that the take all happiness away was nothing but a smokescreen thrown in by Rumpel to fool Regina into complacency and conformity he always probably intended and planned for the curse to end, at least the happiness and Regina in power part, I think that Rumpel has no intention of going back to medieval lalaland. And I doubt any of them would want to go back to lumber stoves and no cars or modern amenities if anything he would try to merge the 2 or bring magic full force into this realm. BTW This is the only fantasy show to date that shows our world as devoid of magic, in all others it exists but is hidden from ordinary humans in one way or another.

Ukko
May 8th, 2012, 10:18 AM
Anyone catch Grumpy's line about Snow's little knife? :p Made me laugh.:D

majorsal
May 8th, 2012, 06:56 PM
i really enjoyed this ep! :)

i always enjoy the eps :p, but when they focus more on regina/evil queen, i'm more enjoyie. :p

one of my fave parts of the ep was when evil queen (e.q) had snow meet her at the barn and grave side of daniel. you could hear the vulnerability in e.q's voice... good acting. :)

Mrja84
May 9th, 2012, 07:07 AM
Anyone catch Grumpy's line about Snow's little knife? :p Made me laugh.:D

No what was it?

Ukko
May 9th, 2012, 07:44 AM
No what was it?

Snow is removing all her weapons for her meeting with the Queen, as she's taking the one from down her top, Grumpy says "Keep the little knife between your tuffets" :p

jeri
May 9th, 2012, 09:10 AM
Snow is removing all her weapons for her meeting with the Queen, as she's taking the one from down her top, Grumpy says "Keep the little knife between your tuffets" :p

:lol: Is that what he said, I didn't catch it the first time. :D

Ukko
May 9th, 2012, 09:28 AM
:lol: Is that what he said, I didn't catch it the first time. :D

Indeed.:D I had to back and check the first time, couldnt believe that what i heard was correct.:p You dont say that sort of thing to Snow White!

Mrja84
May 9th, 2012, 10:21 AM
Snow is removing all her weapons for her meeting with the Queen, as she's taking the one from down her top, Grumpy says "Keep the little knife between your tuffets" :p

HA! Yeah, I didn't catch that.

Mrja84
May 10th, 2012, 10:12 AM
So is Emma going to believe by the end of this season or what?

Hard to tell how long Henry will be out, but since the show tends to resolve things quickly I think Emma will try "true love's kiss" by the season finale. I also think she's going to do a lot of yelling at Regina.

Homer 120
May 10th, 2012, 11:57 AM
Great episode, loved how they actually came full circle unlike another show by the same creators coughLOSTcough. We will hear about the renewal by the time the season finale airs, I say ''Renewal'' as apposed to ''Possible Renewal'' cause its fairly obvious by now that we're getting a 2nd Season. Just want it to be official.

RJLCyberPunk
May 10th, 2012, 11:36 PM
So is Emma going to believe by the end of this season or what?

Hard to tell how long Henry will be out, but since the show tends to resolve things quickly I think Emma will try "true love's kiss" by the season finale. I also think she's going to do a lot of yelling at Regina. Yelling? Regina would be lucky if Emma doesn't end smashing her face to bits this time around.

Baron Of Hell
January 9th, 2015, 06:26 AM
Seen that ending coming as soon as the evil queen gave the apple turnover to Emma. I'm guessing a true love kiss is more than just romantic love like in Frozen. I think Regina or Emma will be able to wake him up. What is truer than the love between a parent and their child.

garhkal
January 10th, 2015, 09:53 PM
Grieving people have a tendency to make bad decisions..

People in general make bad decisions from time to time, but i do agree grieving ones make bad decisions more often.


Seen that ending coming as soon as the evil queen gave the apple turnover to Emma. I'm guessing a true love kiss is more than just romantic love like in Frozen. I think Regina or Emma will be able to wake him up. What is truer than the love between a parent and their child.

With some parents i know, i can easily see that being not true. But in general i say a parents love for their child is often truer than their love for anyone else.