PDA

View Full Version : The Return (119)



GateWorld
April 4th, 2012, 03:09 PM
<DIV ALIGN="center"><TABLE WIDTH="450" BORDER="0" CELLSPACING="0" CELLPADDING="7"><TR><TD STYLE="border: none;"><DIV ALIGN="left"><FONT FACE="Verdana, Arial, san-serif" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000"><A HREF="http://www.scifistream.com/once-upon-a-time/s1/the-return/"><IMG SRC="http://www.scifistream.com/wp-content/uploads/the-return1-160x120.jpg" WIDTH="160" HEIGHT="120" ALIGN="right" HSPACE="10" VSPACE="2" BORDER="0" STYLE="border: 1px black solid;" ALT="Visit the Episode Guide"></A><FONT SIZE="1" COLOR="#888888">ONCE UPON A TIME - SEASON ONE</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=4><A HREF="http://www.scifistream.com/once-upon-a-time/s1/the-return/" STYLE="text-decoration: none">THE RETURN</A></FONT>
<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 119</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">Kathryn's reappearance in Storybrooke risks exposing the Mayor's dirty dealings, while Mr. Gold attempts to discover August's true identity. In the fairy tale world, Rumpelstiltskin's son seeks a way to restore his father to the way he was.</DIV>
<FONT SIZE=1><B><A HREF="http://www.scifistream.com/once-upon-a-time/s1/the-return/">VISIT THE EPISODE GUIDE >></A></B></FONT></FONT></DIV></TD></TR></TABLE></DIV>

tomstone
April 22nd, 2012, 08:21 PM
Awesome Episode with so many juicy details. I feel really sorry for Bae and Rumpel. It surely wasnt easy for him either with being cursed and all. I hope we will find out what happened to Bae after he arrived in our World.

Regina really does a great Job in making one hate her. I just have to admire her ability to still coldly control everything when she was obviously caught. I dont feel sorry for Sidney anymore though, he is helping her every step.

The confrontation between August and Rumpel was awesome. I knew something was wrong, but the August calling Rumpel "Papa" was a nice touch. He did his homework well.

Though now we know that its going to be hard to proof to Emma that Magic exists, if it really does not in our World. But if there is no Magic, how can the Town even exist with its rules?

Just guessing around here
but maybe the Town is somewhat magicly charged and without that charge from the curse there is no Town. So if August is like I guessed Henry from the Future, then his FTL side may be running out of magic. He is half Human, so he cant really dissappear, just die.

Inquisitor
April 23rd, 2012, 02:47 AM
I think there is still magic in the town, it is just hard to find, like the Mad Hatter and the Hunter's heart.

teyla-nick94
April 23rd, 2012, 10:50 AM
It was a great episode and I really hoped August would be Bae. Poor Rumple. No wonder he got so angry at him.

I never would have thought Gold would go to Archie for help. The man was as surprised as I was. But it was so heartbreaking seeing him sitting there on the couch and telling Archie about his son. Maybe therer will be a scene with them again.

Regina is a coward as well as Rumple is one (I can't believe, I'm saying that, but he really is. He should have jump into that...whatever it was...and be happy with his beloved son. But he didn't do it. Now we know why he became so "insane"). She's trying anything to get out of the **** she cleary is in. I never liked Sidney but he certainly doesn't deserve this. Poor man. Betrayed - again - by the woman he loves.

And that poor boy. I feel pretty sad for him. To be the son of the Dark One must be a heavy burden. I hope he is still alive and will maybe even return to Storybrook.

I mean, it was kinda confusing, but August is not Bae, right? Or am I misunderstanding something?

tomstone
April 23rd, 2012, 01:53 PM
I mean, it was kinda confusing, but August is not Bae, right? Or am I misunderstanding something?

No he is not Bae, but he knows about FTL and the Town so he must have some other connection. I really think he is grown up Henry, but I cant proof it. :)

carmencatalina
April 23rd, 2012, 04:56 PM
I have another theory about August, based on the pre-view for next week's episode:

Spoilers ahoy! (well maybe, if I'm right!)

I think August is - Pinnochio! And since he was only ever alive because of magic, he is running out of life in a world with no magic (he says to Gold that he is dying and needs magic to stay alive).

That's my theory!

jeri
April 23rd, 2012, 05:38 PM
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/screen%20shots/th_ScreenShot2012-04-23at42211PM2.png (http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/screen%20shots/ScreenShot2012-04-23at42211PM2.png)
Definitely a turning point for Rumple, his big mistake that sends him down a road of near insanity.

Did you catch the conversation between Rumple and the Blue Fairy about a curse? Maybe Rumple does create the curse, or at least this is the beginning of his idea of how he may get his son back using a curse.

jeri
April 23rd, 2012, 05:44 PM
I would not want to be the one to pretend to be his son, not a good idea to mess with Mr. Gold.
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/screen%20shots/th_ScreenShot2012-04-23at43006PM2.png (http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/screen%20shots/ScreenShot2012-04-23at43006PM2.png)

jeri
April 23rd, 2012, 05:46 PM
He may just eat you! :D
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/screen%20shots/th_ScreenShot2012-04-23at43029PM2.png (http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/screen%20shots/ScreenShot2012-04-23at43029PM2.png)

Skydiver
April 24th, 2012, 03:56 AM
Basically, thanks to the blue fairy, Rumpy devotes his time to making the curse &/or manipulating snow/Regina into wanting the curse to get access to the real world so he can find his son....or avenge his son.

Ian-S
April 24th, 2012, 05:36 AM
^^ that's how I've understood it from very early on, it was Rumpy who made the curse for EQ that bought them all to this world, this episode answered the "why".

Now we need answers as to why/how Rumpy got locked up by EQ, and where Bae really is, he is somewhere in this world, just an early arrival (like Emma was found by the roadside etc.).

....along with about 900 other unanswered questions of course :lol:

Oh, does the Sister realise she was the Blue Fairy? she seemed to know what she was doing when she manipulated Gold into not seeing the wood for the trees, just like her counterpart did with regard to the curse originally....

Duval
April 24th, 2012, 08:41 AM
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/screen%20shots/th_ScreenShot2012-04-23at42211PM2.png (http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/screen%20shots/ScreenShot2012-04-23at42211PM2.png)
Definitely a turning point for Rumple, his big mistake that sends him down a road of near insanity.

Did you catch the conversation between Rumple and the Blue Fairy about a curse? Maybe Rumple does create the curse, or at least this is the beginning of his idea of how he may get his son back using a curse.

I am convinced that it is Rumpy who in creates the curse, grace in his powers which are more and more powerful and even if it had to sacrifice the life of a lot of people, it could not slow down him

Mrja84
April 24th, 2012, 12:03 PM
So August/Booth is dying somehow found out about FTL and Storybrooke and thought he would find someone to use magic to cure him?

Interesting...I really don't think he's a future Henry.

So Rumpel found the curse or learned about it and then got Regina to do all the work for him. He even manipulated her to give him wealth and power in this new world as well as the power to say "please".

But the curse, is a curse for other reasons I'm sure. There's an effect of the curse I'm sure is going to occur which requires the curse to be broken before this "terrible thing" happens. That's what I'm thinking.

So how did August learn of or came to truly believe in magic? Did Bae tell him?

Maybe Bae left, but it is possible that he hasn't arrived yet a sort of delay in transit. Or maybe Bae is Henry's father?

tomstone
April 24th, 2012, 12:41 PM
Maybe Bae left, but it is possible that he hasn't arrived yet a sort of delay in transit. Or maybe Bae is Henry's father?

Then Emma should have recognised him at least. Suddenly he is Bae's Son. :P

Mrja84
April 24th, 2012, 01:11 PM
Then Emma should have recognised him at least. Suddenly he is Bae's Son. :P

I'm not saying August is Bae, they've proven that with this episode. So Bae is still out there and it is possible he could be Henry's father, although Emma didn't talk too kindly of him.

Ian-S
April 24th, 2012, 08:18 PM
oh interesting twist theory there :)

I can't really see Emma calling Gold "Dad" though...

Snicker433
May 17th, 2012, 02:14 AM
I felt sorry and shed a tear for Rush... hmm i mean Rumpelstiltskin in this episode. I have always liked him, his life has been a hard one.

jeri
May 17th, 2012, 02:48 PM
I felt sorry and shed a tear for Rush... hmm i mean Rumpelstiltskin in this episode. I have always liked him, his life has been a hard one.

Haha! Yes, I think there are some similarities with these two characters.

Baron Of Hell
January 8th, 2015, 04:08 PM
There must be magic in the real world. The Evil Queen had a vault full of hearts. She killed the old sheriff by crushing his heart.

jelgate
January 8th, 2015, 09:57 PM
Magical objects/people can be brought to our world but those people can't do magic

Britta
January 9th, 2015, 12:27 AM
There must be magic in the real world. The Evil Queen had a vault full of hearts. She killed the old sheriff by crushing his heart.


Magical objects/people can be brought to our world but those people can't do magic

Magic works, there just isn't any around you to use. That's how I think about it.

garhkal
January 10th, 2015, 09:48 PM
Then Emma should have recognised him at least. Suddenly he is Bae's Son. :P

Not necessarily. I know people i was great friends with at school who i have issues recognizing now.


Magic works, there just isn't any around you to use. That's how I think about it.

IIRC of a latter ep, it does work elsewhere, but there are too few people who can access it properly.
Which makes me wonder. What would the govts of the world do, if they knew the secret of storybrook?