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GateWorld
March 17th, 2012, 02:34 PM
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 202</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">While Tyrion and Cersei clash, Theon Greyjoy returns home to the Iron Islands on a mission for Robb, but does not receive the welcome he anticipated. Davos attempts to secure naval power for Lord Stannis, and Arya fears she has been found when knights from King's Landing arrive in search of Robert's bastard son, Gendry.</DIV>
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Skydiver
April 8th, 2012, 07:24 PM
so we see Gilly
Gendry knows who Arya is (forgotten that part)
We have the set up for Arya's long and twisty journey through the book

Melisandre digs her claws into Stannis and Tyrion has started his grand cleanup of King's Landing

Gen. Chris
April 8th, 2012, 11:12 PM
I watched this a few days ago and I'm happy we can now discuss it :)


That bit with Theon disturbed the frak out of me...

Cold Fuzz
April 9th, 2012, 12:43 AM
Enjoyable episode, as always. :D My single favorite bit of dialogue in the entire series so far is Davos' conversation with Salladhor Saan. I never laughed so hard. :D The bluntness of the two men, especially how Salladhor so colorfully dismissed Matthos' proselytizing, was just an absolute joy to watch. :lol: Davos is fast becoming one of my favorite characters to watch. Liam Cunningham was an excellent choice.

There were some genuinely chilling moments in this episode as well. Craster sacrificing his sons to the Others was incredibly well-rendered, especially how it was implied that seem to have been eaten. The Others' voices being the sound of cracking & crunching ice was powerful.

Another disturbing scene is seeing evidence of just how much Cersei hates Tyrion. But even more creepy is Littlefinger's conversation with Ros about "bad investments" and how he couldn't mitigate the incurred losses.


I watched this a few days ago and I'm happy we can now discuss it :)


That bit with Theon disturbed the frak out of me...

Which bit about Theon? Certain scenes with him could be considered disturbing and certain others could be just considered darkly humorous.

Ukko
April 9th, 2012, 12:53 AM
I see MattSilver Lurking!!! :D


EDIT: Great Episode. That pirate was funny.:p

dosed150
April 9th, 2012, 02:15 AM
by game of thrones standards theon flirting with his sister like that is hardly shocking

Skydiver
April 9th, 2012, 03:58 AM
Cersei does HATE tyrion. more than hate. She'd as soon kill him as look at him...even as she can't quite bring herself to actually hold the knife, she wouldn't stop anyone from killilng him. Of course, Tyrion's father is the same way. Jamie is the 'golden son' (quite literally) and Tyrion is the monster he's stuck with (and i'm sure it dented his ego to deal with the fact that he sired an imp)

Kinda gives you insight into Tyrion and what he does and how he does things. His mouthiness can be traced back to a degree of literally not caring if he offends or upsets. He kinda enjoys it, after all he's spent his whole life being talked about and mocked so why should others be so protected? Also, ,given his short stature, using words as weapons is something he doesn't need physicality to deal with.

Of course, all the speculation about who may eventually 'win' the game of thrones, having Tyrion as a potential king is just ironic enough to be a possibility.

The Mighty 6 platoon
April 9th, 2012, 05:52 AM
Another great ep. The Greyjoy stuff was particularly good, Patrick Malahide was exceptionally well cast as Balon Greyjoy. The Arya, Gendry and Yoren scenes were excellent as well. "I could shave the arse off a spider.":P And the Nightswatch scenes were funny, Dolorus Edd is great, plus Grey Wind looked amazing. I liked the creepy ending as well.

My only quibble with the ep was the Dany scene with Rakharo coming back dead. It wasn't a bad scene, it was well acted, impressively shot, but it just felt like it was a bit of an excuse to write out Elyes Gabel from the show. I understand they had to do it, as the actor got a major role in the film World War Z, so couldn't carry on with filming, but in a perfect world that time could have been used for something else.

Gen. Chris
April 9th, 2012, 11:25 AM
Which bit about Theon? Certain scenes with him could be considered disturbing and certain others could be just considered darkly humorous.

Well I guess in the context of GoT what he did with his sister isn't THAT out of place, but since I watched it twice the second time was worse, especially the bit of "I don't think this story would be fit for children"

The Mighty 6 platoon
April 9th, 2012, 12:53 PM
Well I guess in the context of GoT what he did with his sister isn't THAT out of place, but since I watched it twice the second time was worse, especially the bit of "I don't think this story would be fit for children"

What? It's a great "family" story. :P

"Now settle down children and hear the tale of how Theon Greyjoy was humiliated by going to second base with his sister." :D

VampyreWraith
April 9th, 2012, 01:10 PM
I just watched this today, I had family over last night and couldn't watch it(even though I really wanted to lol).

I love Tyrion, his scenes with Varys, and Cersei were my favorite parts of this episode.
The Littlefinger scene in the brothel with Ros(?) was great.
I love how what the characters sometimes say have more than one meaning.
The scene with Davos, his son, and the pirate was great.
Theon is a jerk, but he's so insecure and pathetic, that I can't hate him. I found the scenes with Yara(I really don't like the name change) kind of amusing, even if it was pretty disturbing.
Loved Arya and Gendry.
Loved seeing Ghost; Sam is awesome, I love him, he's such a good guy. I think Jon is great too lol. I thought that ending scene with Jon following Craster, was really well done.

Gen. Chris
April 9th, 2012, 09:33 PM
What? It's a great "family" story. :P

"Now settle down children and hear the tale of how Theon Greyjoy was humiliated by going to second base with his sister." :D

:jack_new_anime07:

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Question, was Tyrion being a little tongue in cheek when he said Varys should try Shae's "fish pie"? I've never heard of fish pie so it seemed a little...well, you know :P.

Shylodog
April 9th, 2012, 09:35 PM
:jack_new_anime07:

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Question, was Tyrion being a little tongue in cheek when he said Varys should try Shae's "fish pie"? I've never heard of fish pie so it seemed a little...well, you know :P.

Short answer: yes

Gen. Chris
April 9th, 2012, 10:56 PM
Short answer: yes

Ah, good. Cause I honestly couldn't tell.

Clearly Tyrion was just being...Well Tyrion

Skydiver
April 10th, 2012, 04:03 AM
very much so. especially when he's making the comment to the eunuch

The Mighty 6 platoon
April 10th, 2012, 09:21 AM
I still have to remind myself that HBO can get away with stuff like the fish pie comments (and far worse :P). You just don't normally hear characters on tv talk like that. :D

magictrick
April 10th, 2012, 01:38 PM
I didn't know what was going on when Theon called the girl Yara. Took me a few minutes to recall that they weren't going to call her Asha because it would be too confusing to new viewers. But what about confusing those of us who read the books! :P

Gen. Chris
April 10th, 2012, 02:55 PM
I still have to remind myself that HBO can get away with stuff like the fish pie comments (and far worse :P). You just don't normally hear characters on tv talk like that. :D

Hence why I love HBO, and Tyrion...Lol

Edit: What everyone learned from this episode...34306

The Mighty 6 platoon
April 10th, 2012, 07:18 PM
Edit: What everyone learned from this episode...34306

Don't fondle your sister? The fact that Theon needed to learn this says quite a lot about him. :P

Skydiver
April 11th, 2012, 04:14 AM
There's fondling and there's fondling. I missed that bit but you know, often as long as the hands don't stray to those 'forbidden' areas it's not wrong. Not in the time where the show kinda takes place (generally speaking of course). A few hundred years ago the main reason beds in palaces etc had curtains around them was to give the sleeper privacy because everyone and their uncle could walk through the room, or it was very common for 3 or more people to sleep together in the same bed, because beds were limited and for warmth.

I'm just saying that 'proper' is relative and changes over time.

The Mighty 6 platoon
April 11th, 2012, 07:47 AM
There's fondling and there's fondling. I missed that bit but you know, often as long as the hands don't stray to those 'forbidden' areas it's not wrong. Not in the time where the show kinda takes place (generally speaking of course). A few hundred years ago the main reason beds in palaces etc had curtains around them was to give the sleeper privacy because everyone and their uncle could walk through the room, or it was very common for 3 or more people to sleep together in the same bed, because beds were limited and for warmth.

I'm just saying that 'proper' is relative and changes over time.
Regardless of the time period, fondling your sisters breasts and sticking your hand down her trousers will be regarded as somewhat odd.

But Theon isn't incestuous, its just that he's an unthinking twit who didn't realise it was his sister.

Gen. Chris
April 11th, 2012, 11:16 AM
There's fondling and there's fondling. I missed that bit but you know, often as long as the hands don't stray to those 'forbidden' areas it's not wrong. Not in the time where the show kinda takes place (generally speaking of course). A few hundred years ago the main reason beds in palaces etc had curtains around them was to give the sleeper privacy because everyone and their uncle could walk through the room, or it was very common for 3 or more people to sleep together in the same bed, because beds were limited and for warmth.

I'm just saying that 'proper' is relative and changes over time.

No pun intended?

Skydiver
April 11th, 2012, 05:43 PM
no pun intended.

so...he felt up his sister before he realized it was her? Like I said, I missed that part. If so...well dude's a player that shagged the captain's daughter adn basically used her has his personal bed buddy...he's a young man that likes planting his seed in any moderately willing female. he's basically a man slut.

VampyreWraith
April 11th, 2012, 11:01 PM
A girl(his sister, but Theon doesn't know it yet) offers to give him a ride to the castle on her horse. Theon thinks he just got really lucky and that he's on is way to getting himself another girl to bed; he starts telling her how lucky she is because he's a prince/lord/whatever and she gets to visit the castle because of him, and blah blah blah; fondling her for a good portion of the ride. Theon's a gross little man slut lol.

The Mighty 6 platoon
April 12th, 2012, 04:52 AM
Yeah I wouldn't even call Theon a player. He's not good with women, he just uses his position as a noble to try and get women to have sex with him. His sister let him carry on so she could humiliate him.

Ukko
April 12th, 2012, 09:01 AM
Don't fondle your sister? The fact that Theon needed to learn this says quite a lot about him. :P

Dont?...........Man, i've been going about this all the wrong way!! It does explain all the police officers and therapy though...:p

On a more serious note. It should be her that needs to learn. Dont let your brother fondle you. He had know idea who she was, and to be honest, if a beautiful girl let me fondle her, i would.:p He fondle a random woman. She let her brother play with her..

The Mighty 6 platoon
April 12th, 2012, 10:35 AM
Dont?...........Man, i've been going about this all the wrong way!! It does explain all the police officers and therapy though...:p

On a more serious note. It should be her that needs to learn. Dont let your brother fondle you. He had know idea who she was, and to be honest, if a beautiful girl let me fondle her, i would.:p He fondle a random woman. She let her brother play with her..
Yeah but she did it to humilate him. Might make her screwed up, but in a different way.

Ukko
April 12th, 2012, 11:39 AM
Yeah but she did it to humilate him. Might make her screwed up, but in a different way.

Why was her name changed from Asha to Yara? I cant think of any names that sound like that in the show (unless they come later).

Gen. Chris
April 12th, 2012, 11:58 AM
Why was her name changed from Asha to Yara? I cant think of any names that sound like that in the show (unless they come later).

I heard it might be because Asha and Osha are too similar. And in certain accents, they could sound the same.

Skydiver
April 12th, 2012, 01:31 PM
its the asha and osha. read it somewhere.

Gen. Chris
April 12th, 2012, 01:47 PM
its the asha and osha. read it somewhere.

Ah good, confirmation :)

Skydiver
April 12th, 2012, 07:25 PM
I think it's buried somewhere in the s2 casting thread.

I never really memorized that many characters' names so doesn't make much difference to me. the part I'm having to remember is, having read through dragons, knowing what happens to some of them and not reading too much into the foreshadowing.