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GateWorld
March 5th, 2012, 01:25 PM
<DIV ALIGN="center"><TABLE WIDTH="450" BORDER="0" CELLSPACING="0" CELLPADDING="7"><TR><TD STYLE="border: none;"><DIV ALIGN="left"><FONT FACE="Verdana, Arial, san-serif" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000"><A HREF="http://www.scifistream.com/once-upon-a-time/s1/red-handed/"><IMG SRC="http://www.scifistream.com/wp-content/uploads/red-handed-160x120.jpg" WIDTH="160" HEIGHT="120" ALIGN="right" HSPACE="10" VSPACE="2" BORDER="0" STYLE="border: 1px black solid;" ALT="Visit the Episode Guide"></A><FONT SIZE="1" COLOR="#888888">ONCE UPON A TIME - SEASON ONE</FONT>
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 115</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">Mary Margaret and Emma take in Ruby after she quits her job at the diner in a plan to seek adventure. Red Riding Hood and Snow White hunt a giant wolf that is terrorizing the village, leading to an unexpected culprit.</DIV>
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SGalisa
March 11th, 2012, 07:27 PM
Well, that was a pretty intense episode! :eek:
Interesting twist on the identity of the wolf and red-riding hood story. ;)
Aww, and Peter looked very cute. Was he one of the 3 little pigs? geeze. That was such a sad *love* story. :(

And it seems one of Regina's heart boxes showed up? Obviously, Regina planted it. So, does the evil queen/Mayor have David under a spell of forgetfulness? Snow's prints all over the inside of the box, but what about the heart?
Of course it's one of Snow's boxes. The EQ/Mayor got it from Snow's castle! (that's just a theory, not proven fact yet!) :D

EDIT--I forgot... since the EQ/Mayor collects "hearts" as a life-time hobby (of sorts), does that make her the Queen of Hearts (thus, the hearts in the boxes), or the Queen of Clubs, since she destroys (strikes them down / clubs them!) anyone she has no more use for, plus she has declared wearing the color "black" *suits* her...? Ooooooo! :p

AresLover452
March 11th, 2012, 09:43 PM
O_O!!! I am in Awe of this show EVEN MORE!!! Red as the wolf is AWESOME!!! i have new love for Ruby!! she is so AWESOME!!!

VampyreWraith
March 12th, 2012, 03:21 PM
I really enjoyed this episode, loved that Red was the wolf, and loved the dresses/cloaks that Snow and Red wore in the fairy tale land scenes.

carmencatalina
March 12th, 2012, 04:03 PM
The scene of Snow White (in white) and Red Riding Hood (in red) walking in the snow-covered forest was so beautiful, visually. Loved the twist - I was certain the wolf was Grandmother (and apparently, she used to turn, so once upon a time, the wolf was Grandmother), but Red as the wolf was a great twist.

I have to say - Red certainly didn't have a "happy ever after" in fairy tale land before the curse - she killed (and started to eat!) her beloved, and had to flee her village.

Maybe the "real" world of Storybrooke is better for her, at least?

AresLover452
March 12th, 2012, 05:29 PM
At least in Storybrooke she doesn;t shift at the full moon and try to eat people.... so she has a better chance in RL to have a boyfriend! lol! Poor Red!! But i LOVE Her as the WOLF!!

SGalisa
March 12th, 2012, 06:29 PM
I also liked how Granny in both worlds ended up being more resourceful than expected. In FTL, she made herself look sort of tough but not really until she went to rescue Peter.

In Storybrooke, as I suspected (not at first, but when Ruby asked for her job back), Granny was thinking ahead to plan for the day she would no longer be around, so Ruby could take over the diner. That was soooooooo sweet, and such a wonderful scene. :)

jeri
March 12th, 2012, 08:46 PM
Yeah! She ate her boyfriend! Whoa! :P

I loved how in FTL, Red and Snow are brave and how in Storybrooke they are timid and sort of afraid, so we see how the curse effects people and keeps them from being themselves. Although they may be safer in Storybrooke, they're not living up to their potential.

Ian-S
March 12th, 2012, 09:32 PM
I expect it was done in purpose, but through the entire series so far Ruby has come across as a right slapper, but in the last scene in the diner she looked extremely grown up, and a lot more attractive than her slapper predecessor, hope they continue that and she doesn't slip back into the crop tops and mini-skirts next week.

and WTF! Red as the Wolf (I was thing it was Granny throughout the ep), and the box.... wot wot wot!

Artemis-Neith
March 13th, 2012, 01:03 AM
Even without my favorite character a very good episode. Loved the twist with Red, and Granny. The decision to let Red kill, and partly eat her beloved Peter was quite a dark move for a family series, but the episode got also a Warning "14+". Still, not directly the family proved Disney TV one may think.

I really like what those people are doing with the costumes, for the fairy tale part and for Storybrooke. Nothing is accidentally, love that.

Snowflake
March 13th, 2012, 06:40 AM
This show gets better everytime I watch it!! I loved how Ruby was the wolf, but three things got me.
1. not sure Peter was her true love.
2. were they going for the Peter and the wolf story line? Because we never actually see that it is for sure Peter she kills
3. Is her love (Peter) the wolf in the forrest around storybrook, and he never died just changed into a werewolf but in storybrook is a wolf instead of man?

and 4. am i just cracked and reading way to much into the story?

Artemis-Neith
March 13th, 2012, 07:08 AM
Hm, not sure if it's too much to talk about "the one big true love." Red had for sure interest in that boy, but both were more or less kids when that accident happened. He was sweet, tho.

That boy Peter is dead at the end of the episode, I didn't doubt that. And to show more of the killing would not be possible at that time. Too much blood. ;)

Peter as the wolf in Storybrooke would be an interesting idea, but people who're dead in FTL don't exist in the RW either, so it might be possible the the wolf is just a wolf there. Maybe a some kind of guide for lost souls in Storybrooke. But who knows...

teyla-nick94
March 13th, 2012, 09:23 AM
Great episode! I would never have thought that Red would be the wolf! I always thought of Peter! But Red herself? Wow, amazing thing. But poor for him he died. But I have a question: The guy who repaired Ruby's car in 1x04 The Price of Gold...wasn't his name Peter????????

Anyway, I like Granny more and more. She's a great woman but maybe she really should have told Red about it. Would have been a lot better I think.

And in Storybrook: It's amazing how Ruby has changed. In the beginning she was still wearing that tons of make-up but in the end she looked so older and wiser! Not that little punky girl anymore. And I think helping Emma with Kathryns disappearence was also helpful for her.

Is it really Kathryns heart? That's quite shocking. I wonder how the EQ managed to put MM's fingerprints on the box? Do you really think MM did this? No, not her.

Girlbot
March 13th, 2012, 11:47 AM
If the box came from the Fairytale land, maybe Snow handled it at one point somewhere, and it came over to Storybrooke with Regina.

AresLover452
March 13th, 2012, 12:10 PM
It's possible, We know there are somethings that crossed over from TFW over to StoryBrooke. So snow could have handled the box at some point down the line when she and the queen lived in the palace together.

Ian-S
March 13th, 2012, 07:10 PM
I wonder who's heart it is though? Huntsman?

jeri
March 13th, 2012, 10:10 PM
I think it's Davids heart. We know the EQ has retained her knowledge as Regina in Storybrooke, so why not her powers? This would be a powerful revenge towards Snow/ Mary-Margret, to control her loved one and incriminate her in a murder (if there was one). This may explain David's trance like state and loss of memory, having been under some spell of EQ/Regina.

Livestick
March 14th, 2012, 09:50 AM
I think it's Davids heart. We know the EQ has retained her knowledge as Regina in Storybrooke, so why not her powers? This would be a powerful revenge towards Snow/ Mary-Margret, to control her loved one and incriminate her in a murder (if there was one). This may explain David's trance like state and loss of memory, having been under some spell of EQ/Regina.

I don't think so. Remember when the EQ cut Graham's heart out, he lost his ability to feel emotions of any kind. David clearly hasn't, so it isn't likely that he's missing his heart.

jeri
March 14th, 2012, 12:35 PM
I don't think so. Remember when the EQ cut Graham's heart out, he lost his ability to feel emotions of any kind. David clearly hasn't, so it isn't likely that he's missing his heart.
I think Graham was pretty emotional, at least the way the actor played him! LOL! Too, soon to tell, we had better keep watching. :D

Livestick
March 14th, 2012, 03:25 PM
Well, I remember him saying something like "I feel nothing." I thought that was why he broke into the crypt to find his heart. Either way, you're right. It's too soon to tell so we need to keep watching.

jeri
March 15th, 2012, 07:17 PM
Well, I remember him saying something like "I feel nothing." I thought that was why he broke into the crypt to find his heart. Either way, you're right. It's too soon to tell so we need to keep watching.

That's what's funny about it, if he felt nothing, why was he acting so upset and practically crying? It's TV, why ask why? :D

AutumnNoxx
March 18th, 2012, 03:07 AM
What were they trying to imply with David appearing to have lost his memory? Does he play some role in this Red story? That part confused me. You know, like where is this all going? Where do you think Kathryn really is? We never actually saw her die. Thoughts? Theories?

Skydiver
March 18th, 2012, 05:59 AM
I don't think david plays a role in the red story. I do think that it was a way to reveal who she was and what she was - werewolf I guess - while keeping the mystery alive.
I also wonder if there's magic involved...as in queenie didn't murder Catherine, she locked her up and 'stole' her heart by keeping her from her true love.

Queenie has tons of hearts in that vault.

Right now it was in play because she's obsessed with keeping Snow and David apart.

SGalisa
March 18th, 2012, 03:08 PM
Queenie has tons of hearts in that vault.

Right now it was in play because she's obsessed with keeping Snow and David apart.

I'm guessing that the EQ/mayor might not go or get away with the poison apple route in the real world, so she's trying other tactics to keep Snow/MM away from PC/David. :eek:

nebulan
March 26th, 2012, 03:30 PM
POOR RED!!! :(

True love or not, he was freakin' cute. I think "True Love" doesn't mean their only true love, but that it's true, not fleeting, not lust, etc. I think Red can find love again. Maybe even Regina? (Not Sydney, poor guy.) Also Emma, She and Graham might have had true love but that doesn't mean there's a possiblity of her finding it again with August!

I officially love Ruby and hope Emma makes use of her tracking skills more in the future. I really love how she matured at the end of the episode. Did you notice her change of attire?

jeri
March 26th, 2012, 04:51 PM
POOR RED!!! :(

True love or not, he was freakin' cute. I think "True Love" doesn't mean their only true love, but that it's true, not fleeting, not lust, etc. I think Red can find love again. Maybe even Regina? (Not Sydney, poor guy.) Also Emma, She and Graham might have had true love but that doesn't mean there's a possiblity of her finding it again with August!

I officially love Ruby and hope Emma makes use of her tracking skills more in the future. I really love how she matured at the end of the episode. Did you notice her change of attire?

I noticed and liked that. She has become more self assured and no longer needs to hide behind tons of make up and flashy clothes. :) Also wondered if she dressed that way to annoy her Granny. Now she appreciates her more.

VampyreWraith
April 3rd, 2012, 07:14 PM
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jeri
April 4th, 2012, 10:45 AM
Thanks for the images. That was such a beautiful scene. I was so tickled that they were on location in the snow. Another advantage of filming in Vancouver, so many wonderful locations nearby.

Mrja84
April 4th, 2012, 01:56 PM
Thanks for the images. That was such a beautiful scene. I was so tickled that they were on location in the snow. Another advantage of filming in Vancouver, so many wonderful locations nearby.

Where it seemed to have gotten old fast in SG-1 & SGA. But I didn't even notice that was on location. That was beautiful

jeri
April 4th, 2012, 03:02 PM
Where it seemed to have gotten old fast in SG-1 & SGA. But t I didn't even that was on location. That was beautiful
Haha, I never got tired of the British Col. scenery in SG-1. Must be because I'm a Californian, where we have hot dry summers. I love the green of B.C.

Mrja84
April 5th, 2012, 07:10 AM
Haha, I never got tired of the British Col. scenery in SG-1. Must be because I'm a Californian, where we have hot dry summers. I love the green of B.C.

Well, I live on the east coast and there's lots of green and trees and such. So I was excited to see White Sands, New Mexico in SGU. And even Las Vegas from SGA.

It does seem like BC has a lot of variety when it comes to locations.

jeri
April 5th, 2012, 08:15 AM
Well, I live on the east coast and there's lots of green and trees and such. So I was excited to see White Sands, New Mexico in SGU. And even Las Vegas from SGA.

It does seem like BC has a lot of variety when it comes to locations.
It does if they choose to use them. They did seem to favor the same places in SG-1. The New Mexico White Sands are something that's for sure. I think my problem is that growing up, all the shows where done in the same places in southern California, usually bland and hazy skies, yuck! I'm sorry to anyone who lives there but I don't like southern Ca.

VampyreWraith
April 5th, 2012, 01:04 PM
Thanks for the images. That was such a beautiful scene. I was so tickled that they were on location in the snow. Another advantage of filming in Vancouver, so many wonderful locations nearby.

You're welcome:) I loved the snowy forest scenes with Snow and Red, it all looked so pretty. I love winter and snow(and was disappointed that we barely got any by me this year).