Was Sheppard Promoted to Full Colonel??

[Raineman]

I keep seeing people refer to Shepperd as Col Shepperd but I do not remember it being mentioned that he was promoted to full Colonel from my understanding he was still Ltc Shepperd at the end of Atlantis. If im wrong can someone get the exact episode and time from when you hear he is a full Colonel and dont point me into episodes when they call him Colonel because you never say Lt Colonel unless its him saying his own rank

[Sue_Jackson]

On the show, John Sheppard was not promoted to full-bird colonel.

[jelgate]

Generally speaking people call you colonel even if you are still colonel be it a full colonel or not. Its like how Hammond or Landry were called General even when they were only major generals

[Snowman37]

Lt. Cols. are usually referred to as simply Colonel. However, after Sheppard took out the Wraith hive in Earth orbit in the finale, I suspect he would have been promoted to full Colonel.

[Flyboy]

Lt. Cols. are usually referred to as simply Colonel. However, after Sheppard took out the Wraith hive in Earth orbit in the finale, I suspect he would have been promoted to full Colonel.

However promotions aren't given out as 'rewards', they're connected to jobs and responsibilities. I find it unlikely that they'd promote Sheppard without handing him more responsibiity. He certainly wouldn't retain the same posting as a full-bird.

[Raineman]

thanks. I know all about rank names and the system of it cos im in the australian army and we use the same rank structure

[morrismike]

However promotions aren't given out as 'rewards', they're connected to jobs and responsibilities. I find it unlikely that they'd promote Sheppard without handing him more responsibiity. He certainly wouldn't retain the same posting as a full-bird.

An O6 in charge of a large naval vessel (something between Carrier/Battleship and Sub/Frigate would likely be an O6. Fully armed with drones, Atlantis would be the most powerful ship in our forces making that a "Flag" officer position. When SGC goes to Atlantis it would likely be a Lt. General position and would likely house the Joint Chiefs once moved to Chesapeake Bay. In reality military commander of Atlantis with Atlantis on Earth would be a significant position. With Atlantis out of the Galaxy I would agree that is an O-5 Billet.

Sheppard is insubordinate and won't make O-6. Him deciding not to man the chair in Area 51 nearly caused the loss of the planet. Military (at least ours) wouldn't forget that.

[Hyndara71]

An O6 in charge of a large naval vessel (something between Carrier/Battleship and Sub/Frigate would likely be an O6. Fully armed with drones, Atlantis would be the most powerful ship in our forces making that a "Flag" officer position. When SGC goes to Atlantis it would likely be a Lt. General position and would likely house the Joint Chiefs once moved to Chesapeake Bay. In reality military commander of Atlantis with Atlantis on Earth would be a significant position. With Atlantis out of the Galaxy I would agree that is an O-5 Billet.

Sheppard is insubordinate and won't make O-6. Him deciding not to man the chair in Area 51 nearly caused the loss of the planet. Military (at least ours) wouldn't forget that.

When he had man the chair in Area 51 he would had been dead in the middle of EatG. I don't see anything insubordinating there. He was on his way when the attack began. It always takes me wonder that a so well-advanced outpost like Area 51 didn't have an air raid defense.

[morrismike]

[Snowman37]

However promotions aren't given out as 'rewards'

Perhaps, but that seems to be how they're handed out in Stargate.

I find it unlikely that they'd promote Sheppard without handing him more responsibiity. He certainly wouldn't retain the same posting as a full-bird.

Why not? O'Neill was leading SG-1 for seven years as a full Colonel, and he was second to General Hammond who was running the SGC.

[Flyboy]

Perhaps, but that seems to be how they're handed out in Stargate.


Why not? O'Neill was leading SG-1 for seven years as a full Colonel, and he was second to General Hammond who was running the SGC.

But O'Neill's promotions all came with upwards movement of position. He didn't stay in the same role.

[USS Thor]

agreed shep would only make full colonel if he took over the atlantis expidition if it ever went back to pegasus so he's either stuck where he is or has to take on more responsibility

[Snowman37]

But O'Neill's promotions all came with upwards movement of position. He didn't stay in the same role.

I didn't say anything about promotions. I said that when he was a Colonel, he lead SG-1 and was second only to Hammond. With Atlantis on Earth, why should these circumstances be any different? Sheppard could be a Colonel, lead missions as O'Neill did, and be second to whoever's in charge like he's always been and like Colonel O'Neill was to General Hammond.

agreed shep would only make full colonel if he took over the atlantis expidition if it ever went back to pegasus so he's either stuck where he is or has to take on more responsibility

If a U.S. Air Force officer is to be in charge of the Atlantis Expedition, shouldn't it be a General? I always wondered why Colonel Carter was given such authority during Atlantis's fourth season.

[Raineman]

If a U.S. Air Force officer is to be in charge of the Atlantis Expedition, shouldn't it be a General? I always wondered why Colonel Carter was given such authority during Atlantis's fourth season.

Because shes hot haha

[morrismike]

But O'Neill's promotions all came with upwards movement of position. He didn't stay in the same role.

The role of the city and it's ranking military officer would change upon landing in US waters. The city is now the most powerful ship at our disposal. Sheppard will be nothing but a team leader now and there will by a Flag officer in charge (likely Oneil once homeworld command is located on Atlantis).