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GateWorld
September 18th, 2009, 01:27 PM
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 408</FONT>
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Peter and Lincoln visit the other universe, where Lincoln wants to uncover the new shape-shifters' agenda and Peter hopes to find a way home with help from Walternate. But the mission goes very wrong when their real identities are discovered.

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DigiFluid
January 13th, 2012, 08:40 PM
Good stuff!

Glad to finally be seeing the Over There counterparts again, thrilled to see Alt Jones, and loving that this episode finally ties together some of the many disparate plot threads that have been laid since the beginning of this season. And what a tease at the end :D

Bring on next week!

Rosehawk
January 13th, 2012, 08:49 PM
Was kind of fun seeing Bambam!

The Prophet
January 13th, 2012, 09:22 PM
thrilled to see Alt Jones,

Bring on next week!

Was that Alt Jones, or our Jones?

In the original timeline, Peter killed our Jones by slicing him in half (As Peter mentioned in the episode, when crossing over with Lincoln). Seeing as Peter never existed in this timeline, it could be possible that Jones succeeded in crossing over, perhaps? Although the Fringe team could have stopped him, there wouldn't be any dramatic changes to the timeline if he wasn't stopped.

Also, the Jones we saw had an apparent skin condition, I think, which, if it was our Jones, would be due to the Teleporter causing him to slowly degrade. Unless Alt Jones had a similar experience, I'm going to place my bets that it's our Jones, but I could easily be wrong. Dramatically it would make sense to be our Jones too, considering he has a history with the Fringe team, whilst Alt Jones wouldn't be aware of who they were, necessarily.

Man, I've not posted on Gateworld in ages. This is nostalgic.

DigiFluid
January 13th, 2012, 09:28 PM
You're right, I suppose it could be either way. I just took it that his presence Over There meant he was one of the red guys. We don't know much about red Fringe Division before season 3 so it's entirely possible that they have some kind of history with him. Tbh I can't even remember how much our Jones knew about the universes; been a while since I watched season 1.

Good eye/thinking though, I hadn't even considered it.

tomstone
January 14th, 2012, 12:14 AM
Now I somehow cant shake the Question of what about William Bell? I cant remember if Peter was involved in his Death, but he certainly was there when Olivia needed saving from Bells mind.

LtColCarter
January 14th, 2012, 03:53 AM
Now I somehow cant shake the Question of what about William Bell? I cant remember if Peter was involved in his Death, but he certainly was there when Olivia needed saving from Bells mind.

The whole thing with Bell's consciousness being in Olivia didn't happen in the time line currently on the show.

tomstone
January 14th, 2012, 10:15 AM
The whole thing with Bell's consciousness being in Olivia didn't happen in the time line currently on the show.

Exactly my point. They never crossed over in the Theater, so Bell never gave his life to bring them back. That means that Bell should still be alive in this Timeline.

DigiFluid
January 14th, 2012, 01:06 PM
And so what if he is? It'll be fantastic to see him if they can convince him to come back, but it's not like he was ever a regular fixture when the character was still alive in the blue/red universes. Not really any reason to hold our breath for it here--maybe he's still just chilling and doing his thing in the Red universe, like he was doing in Seasons 1 and 2 before the theatre cross-over.

the fifth man
January 14th, 2012, 08:00 PM
Really good episode. I am so happy Fringe is finally back. I can't wait to watch it a second time, this time with my wife.

Ian-S
January 15th, 2012, 04:39 PM
My wife won't watch it, season 1, episode 1 put her off for life :lol:

So good to have something decent to watch again, I think that's the first episode of anything in about 3 years to see me sit up and express rude comments as the credits rolled, those last few minutes were mind frakking to say the least.

I thought Jones always came from "over there"?

lookupwardsnshare
January 17th, 2012, 02:33 PM
Loved the ep...glad Fringe is back :p

Commander Zelix
January 17th, 2012, 04:28 PM
Great episode this week. It was fun to be in the red universe. Every scenes were pretty cool. It was nice for Peter's mother to recognize him in adult size immediately. Walter suicide recount was touching. Lincoln Lee impersonification. Alt Broyles in league with Mr. Jones. Great to see him back. Walternate/Peter dialogue. Shapeshifters infiltration. All fun. All good. Should have been the mid season break final. :)

Sp!der
January 20th, 2012, 08:38 AM
Fringe is back and currently the best show on air!

LtColCarter
January 20th, 2012, 08:44 AM
Fringe is back and currently the best show on air!

:indeed: