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Gen. Chris
November 12th, 2011, 11:25 PM
Well, I have been hearing about this show, both good and bad. And it at the very least intrigues me.


So what is the scoop on this show? What is good and bad about it?

Please no spoilers...though I may not be able to watch it for a while, I tend to remember names really easily. :P

escyos
November 13th, 2011, 03:46 AM
I watched the first episode and it didnt make a big mark, kind of cliche superhero show, super strength etc. Nothing good as i could see.

I do like superheroes and seeing as there is nothing good being shown much lately I may return to it. I recommend you watch a few eps instead of asking people what they think - I enjoy the music of Miley Cyrus (yes you heard that right) and others don't, everyone is different so the only way you can know is to check it out.

Madness reigns
November 13th, 2011, 04:49 AM
I enjoyed it personally.... the first episode is a bit hit and miss and it takes a little while before you feel it settles into a rhythm, but once it does it it flows brilliantly.
The casting is great and certain characters very believable and although I felt the writing was a bit up and down at times, it does level out towards the end of the series.

Thoroughly looking forward to Season 2 :D

But as Escyos said everybody is different. So it's probably best to give it a go and decide for yourself.

Gen. Chris
November 13th, 2011, 11:40 AM
Well alright...Not all the episodes are on IMDB right now so I can't watch unless SyFy does a marathon or something...And the show doesn't look like it is being released on dvd anytime soon.

So I will patiently wait :P

Tanith0709
November 13th, 2011, 04:04 PM
To me the only other show that it reminds me off is The 4400. But instead of 2 agents doing investigations of people with abilities its a team of people with abilities led by a psychologist who investigate crimes caused by others with abilities.

I find it quite interesting, but it does follow the cliche of a lot of investigative type shows: Find crime/event, team goes in, eventually find out who done it/what caused it, the team solve the issue/catch the culprit.

Gen. Chris
November 13th, 2011, 08:36 PM
To me the only other show that it reminds me off is The 4400. But instead of 2 agents doing investigations of people with abilities its a team of people with abilities led by a psychologist who investigate crimes caused by others with abilities.

I find it quite interesting, but it does follow the cliche of a lot of investigative type shows: Find crime/event, team goes in, eventually find out who done it/what caused it, the team solve the issue/catch the culprit.

Oo, if it is similar to that I might like it. :D

tmoore4261
November 18th, 2011, 11:10 AM
I'm tickked off I started watching Alphas on-demand and it was taken off, now I can't watch it. :yuanime01:

Gen. Chris
November 18th, 2011, 10:16 PM
Well at least you have watched some of it...Lol

Linda06
November 19th, 2011, 05:17 AM
I watched the first 15 mins of it and turned it off :S

Gen. Chris
November 19th, 2011, 11:40 AM
I watched the first 15 mins of it and turned it off :S

But why?

Commander Zelix
November 19th, 2011, 05:15 PM
I personally truly love Alphas. I like the realistic tone to the show. More serious than Warehouse 13 or Eureka while still keeping a touch of humor (as character traits no situation usually).

The first season was just great. Good diversity of plots in the first season for every episodes.

Gen. Chris
November 19th, 2011, 07:51 PM
Well I will have to wait, unfortunately...:p

Linda06
November 20th, 2011, 06:41 AM
But why?

Because I was so bored :o

Gen. Chris
November 20th, 2011, 04:22 PM
Ah okay...:P

Commander Zelix
November 20th, 2011, 05:47 PM
Because I was so bored :o

Blasphemy!!

You were probably depressed at that time. ;)

Gen. Chris
November 24th, 2011, 11:22 AM
Does anyone know when the first season could possibly be released?

knowles2
December 4th, 2011, 02:55 PM
I am watching it on Five Star in the UK at the moment it have not grab my attention, in fact I keep on forgetting it is on, which is never good for a TV show.

There just so many cliche moments. An all the characters are, so far anyway, heading down there obvious paths, I am at episode 7. There no intrigue, no surprises in the story.

Gen. Chris
July 23rd, 2012, 05:26 PM
Well I FINALLY caught up, a few hours before the second season premier. It's not great, but it's not bad. It has great potential. I just hope it isn't cancelled like The 4400 and Heroes on a cliffhanger =/

Dave2
August 22nd, 2012, 08:06 AM
I have just watched the original pilot episode. The first thing that I noticed was how much it reminded me of Mission Impossible. Beyond that I don't know whether I like it or not yet. I wonder though how dangerous a person would be who could hypnotize someone at the drop of a hat, including members of her own team.........

Since I just watched Anger Management with its horrific violence I wondered how there could be a story of this kid Matthew with a power to cause so much violence who was NEVER CAUGHT or killed in any previous occasion since his birth.......Must be something that hit him only when he turned, what, 21 or 22?

For that matter, how is it that the alphas causing trouble went undetected for their entire lives until "now"?? Marcus, the Ghost, etc. etc.??

Gollumpus
August 22nd, 2012, 07:39 PM
I have just watched the original pilot episode. The first thing that I noticed was how much it reminded me of Mission Impossible. Beyond that I don't know whether I like it or not yet. I wonder though how dangerous a person would be who could hypnotize someone at the drop of a hat, including members of her own team.........

Since I just watched Anger Management with its horrific violence I wondered how there could be a story of this kid Matthew with a power to cause so much violence who was NEVER CAUGHT or killed in any previous occasion since his birth.......Must be something that hit him only when he turned, what, 21 or 22?

For that matter, how is it that the alphas causing trouble went undetected for their entire lives until "now"?? Marcus, the Ghost, etc. etc.??

"Mission Impossible", how so? This is a very interesting comparison. It's normally compared to the X-Men.

It is a show which can grow on you. I found I did like some of the characters more than others at the start of the series, but found that there has been a significant amount of character development which has been done such that some of these lesser lights have become very interesting. Or, perhaps they have just become less irksome.... :P

As to alpha abilities, most of them are very low-key in how they are manifested. Many could be used right beside a person and they would not even know of it.

I believe the show's creators want us to accept that alpha abilities are a fairly recent phenomenon at least at the start. This part of the story evolves.. Further, of the more overt abilities, witness accounts would most likely be explained away by the authorities as mass-hypnosis, panic, drugs, alcohol, insanity, or even witchcraft or UFO's. Probably most witnesses to such abilities being used just kept their mouths shut because they didn't want others to think that they were crazy, or drunk. Heck, if you saw someone do what a character on the show was capable of doing, would you believe your eyes?

regards,
G.

Dave2
August 23rd, 2012, 03:44 PM
I thought of Mission Impossible because of a TEAM with a leader organized to defeat some skilled or important opponent.........
About the history of the alphas are you suggesting that somehow people with Alpha abilities suddenly discovered such abilities only "now"??


"Mission Impossible", how so? This is a very interesting comparison. It's normally compared to the X-Men.

It is a show which can grow on you. I found I did like some of the characters more than others at the start of the series, but found that there has been a significant amount of character development which has been done such that some of these lesser lights have become very interesting. Or, perhaps they have just become less irksome.... :P

As to alpha abilities, most of them are very low-key in how they are manifested. Many could be used right beside a person and they would not even know of it.

I believe the show's creators want us to accept that alpha abilities are a fairly recent phenomenon at least at the start. This part of the story evolves.. Further, of the more overt abilities, witness accounts would most likely be explained away by the authorities as mass-hypnosis, panic, drugs, alcohol, insanity, or even witchcraft or UFO's. Probably most witnesses to such abilities being used just kept their mouths shut because they didn't want others to think that they were crazy, or drunk. Heck, if you saw someone do what a character on the show was capable of doing, would you believe your eyes?

regards,
G.

Gollumpus
August 23rd, 2012, 07:35 PM
I thought of Mission Impossible because of a TEAM with a leader organized to defeat some skilled or important opponent.........
About the history of the alphas are you suggesting that somehow people with Alpha abilities suddenly discovered such abilities only "now"??

If you recall from the first episode, Rosen pretty much had to convince Hicks that he has the abilities which he does possess. Prior to this, Hicks (and anyone else) just put his sports successes down to him having "a very good arm".

I believe that the creators of the show are mostly going with the idea that people gain their alpha ability sometime around puberty. This being said, Rosen's daughter seems to have acquired her ability some years before puberty, so maybe it happens sooner.

regards,
G.

Dave2
August 24th, 2012, 08:35 AM
What about people like Marcus, Matthew and the Ghost with those things on his hand that brainwash people??



If you recall from the first episode, Rosen pretty much had to convince Hicks that he has the abilities which he does possess. Prior to this, Hicks (and anyone else) just put his sports successes down to him having "a very good arm".

I believe that the creators of the show are mostly going with the idea that people gain their alpha ability sometime around puberty. This being said, Rosen's daughter seems to have acquired her ability some years before puberty, so maybe it happens sooner.

regards,
G.

Dave2
August 25th, 2012, 06:13 PM
At the risk of exposing spoilers, can anyone tell me whether Alphas episodes ever explain why the Alphas are all young single people? Are there any older alphas, such as doctors, scientists, professors, senators, etc.?

Can we ever get an understanding of where alphas were until now in general, and whether there were alphas previously in history? And if they had really dangerous powers how did they go unnoticed until the first decade of the 21st century?

Could alphas be considered "artifacts" and could artifacts in Warehouse 13 be considered non-living "alphas"??!

Gen. Chris
August 26th, 2012, 01:40 PM
No (spoilers sake)

No (spoilers sake)

and no (because, why?)

Gollumpus
August 26th, 2012, 06:41 PM
At the risk of exposing spoilers, can anyone tell me whether Alphas episodes ever explain why the Alphas are all young single people? Are there any older alphas, such as doctors, scientists, professors, senators, etc.?

Good thinking. Is the alpha phenomenon a recent event and related to a particular time and place, or has it been going on for more than a few decades?

Episode 9, "Blind Spot" gives some insight. Also, Episode 11, "Original Sin" starts to provide some answers.



Can we ever get an understanding of where alphas were until now in general, and whether there were alphas previously in history? And if they had really dangerous powers how did they go unnoticed until the first decade of the 21st century?

Alphas in history = Stanton Parish. You'll see him in Episode 11, "Original Sin".

If the alpha abilities go back much further than Parish, perhaps there's more than meets the eye to historical figures like Leif Ericson, known as "the Lucky" or mythological characters like Hercules.

How have they gone unnoticed? Perhaps they followed Parish's example of how he dealt with someone who was going to expose him. Otherwise, I suspect that a lot of abilities just went unnoticed (and maybe undeveloped). How useful would an ability similar to Gary's have been 200 years ago? If they were noticed, maybe the person with the ability was called a witch and burned alive or placed in a mental institution.

Maybe don't read this until after viewing Episode 2 of season 2, "The Quick and the Dead".

This is something which I am now suggesting for the first time: perhaps Parish is the "father" of all alphas. It's likely not the case, but we do see he has had children over the years.




Could alphas be considered "artifacts" and could artifacts in Warehouse 13 be considered non-living "alphas"??!

I don't believe so, but this being said, I don't watch a lot of "Warehouse 13". I have read that there is at least a minor connection between the two shows.

regards,
G.

Dave2
August 27th, 2012, 06:53 AM
My last comment was sort of tongue in cheek.........but I do see a connection between mysterious artifacts and mysterious people who are alphas.......
However, the point is well taken that many of the alphas could only operate within a technological society. But that would not include our team except I guess for Gary Bell. Nina and Rachel, Bill and Cameron would all have been able to use their skills hundreds of years ago.
The mother of Chris also could have been an alpha in another century. And so far she is the oldest alpha. She said that her skill of killing people by withdrawing affection only emerged after her son died..........
In any case, I would have liked to see cases of a politician who was an alpha, an elderly person, a professor, etc. etc.
And are there any foreign countries where alphas also exist and have a "movement" (as described by Dr. Rosen)??

ZeroPoint
August 27th, 2012, 05:37 PM
Sigh.....

The show is allegedly called "Alphas" because this is the first generation of abilities. It was said that a child of the current alphas is the first of a second generation (that would be "Betas"). This would imply a trigger event happening that caused abilities. This is the same line of plot as the show Heroes where the trigger event was an eclipse.

Recent events may change that.
But now that theme is generally forgotten. Parish is much older with abilities, but on 2012-08-27 the village leader seems to be the same age as the fathers of the main cast.

Dave2
August 28th, 2012, 04:00 PM
Having seen several more episodes, I see that there are definitely middle-aged Alphas, i.e. people born in the 1940s or 1950s. So the powers that such people exhibit either only emerged recently or they had them all their lives, in which case they should have been outed or arrested long ago, even before there was a "Binghamton." Same for the younger folks too. And Dr. Rosen says "it's a movement." So where have all these Alphas been until now?!

In such a situation the powers they are all born with must have been noticed years ago.
Then again, we'd want to know who an Alpha could contact if they needed help from a Dr. Rosen or the DOD on their own.
Why are there so many bad Alphas around compared to good ones? I have watched so many bad guys, shouldn't there be more than one team of good guys around? Like Alpha-1 (Rosen), then Alpha-2 etc. etc. ?? Are there Alphas in other countries besides the US? In Canada? Europe? China? Africa?


Sigh.....

The show is allegedly called "Alphas" because this is the first generation of abilities. It was said that a child of the current alphas is the first of a second generation (that would be "Betas"). This would imply a trigger event happening that caused abilities. This is the same line of plot as the show Heroes where the trigger event was an eclipse.

Recent events may change that.
But now that theme is generally forgotten. Parish is much older with abilities, but on 2012-08-27 the village leader seems to be the same age as the fathers of the main cast.

ZeroPoint
August 28th, 2012, 05:02 PM
That's why I started with a sigh on my last post. I find so many shows that start a new season by starting new plot likes that the previous season shown couldn't happen.

First season started with 4 states of Alphas, either in the group, confined in Binghamton, or not a threat and released to general population. The final state are those free and confused/angry that that the group deals with and decides which of first 3 groups they go into.
Also, I think the first older Alpha from season 1 was in "Blind Spot", who could have easily been the age of any of the groups fathers.

Now its a second season and there's a relative spitload of Alphas out there, which I'm saying is a statement of "Here's the storyline for the season, but it voids much of the plot of the first season, but what the heck."

Dave2
August 29th, 2012, 06:59 AM
How is a powerful Alpha allowed to live among the general population, since one can never know what triggers something that will lead to problems with his/her powers??
I see that the Alpha who made himself like Rosen had an English accent. That does suggest Alphas in places other than the USA.

Anyway, although Gary's skills and personality are a definite comic relief for the show, he does get to be annoying quite often, and makes one want him to go on vacation for a few episodes.......


That's why I started with a sigh on my last post. I find so many shows that start a new season by starting new plot likes that the previous season shown couldn't happen.

First season started with 4 states of Alphas, either in the group, confined in Binghamton, or not a threat and released to general population. The final state are those free and confused/angry that that the group deals with and decides which of first 3 groups they go into.
Also, I think the first older Alpha from season 1 was in "Blind Spot", who could have easily been the age of any of the groups fathers.

Now its a second season and there's a relative spitload of Alphas out there, which I'm saying is a statement of "Here's the storyline for the season, but it voids much of the plot of the first season, but what the heck."

ZeroPoint
August 29th, 2012, 02:43 PM
How is a powerful Alpha allowed to live among the general population, since one can never know what triggers something that will lead to problems with his/her powers??
I see that the Alpha who made himself like Rosen had an English accent. That does suggest Alphas in places other than the USA.

Anyway, although Gary's skills and personality are a definite comic relief for the show, he does get to be annoying quite often, and makes one want him to go on vacation for a few episodes.......

You added "powerful" into the description, when I didn't. Powerful Alphas would either go to Binghamton, to a group like Rosen's. How about an Alpha who has gills, or who can talk to bees? How much of a threat or powerful are they? Even as such, a not-that-powerful Alpha with an attitude issue or can't control their powers would need control/counseling.

The main characters of the show are close enough to general population to not be much different, considering Harken is married, and Rachel visits her family often.

Gen. Chris
August 30th, 2012, 09:52 AM
...Why is my thread being taken over...? Lol

Gollumpus
August 30th, 2012, 09:20 PM
...Why is my thread being taken over...? Lol

Not out fault. Think of it like a nice big bowl of potato chips. If you just leave them unattended they're going to get eaten.

regards,
G.

PS - so, what do you think of the show, anything more to add? :)

regards,
G.

Gen. Chris
August 31st, 2012, 08:30 AM
It's good.

Not as good as some other superhuman shows I have watched (The 4400 and the FIRST season of Heroes) but it's getting better.

Asgard Flu
September 6th, 2012, 10:39 AM
This show sounds like a bad rip-off of Heroes.

Gen. Chris
September 6th, 2012, 12:41 PM
And Heroes was a ripoff of The 4400.

jelgate
September 6th, 2012, 01:16 PM
Everything has been done before

Don Pantaloons
May 10th, 2013, 06:56 PM
It's good. Not as good as some other superhuman shows ... but it's getting better.

When does it start getting better? Because four episodes in there is nothing that makes me want to continue watching. I don't like any of the characters (or the actors who play them), the abilities are either boring (everyone but Nina) or totally under-utilized (Nina), and there is zero drama. If you can tell me it gets a whole lot better real soon, I'll give it another chance; otherwise, this show is definitely not for me.