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greytop
October 20th, 2011, 06:10 AM
Once Upon A Time is a new Fantasy/Drama show that starts on ABC this Sunday. So far, that I know of, it has two Stargate stars in the Pilot of the series.

Mr. Gold.....................Robert Carlye
Black Knight...............James "BamBam' Bamford



Note to the mods: If you think that this thread belongs to another threads, please move it.
I won't get mad it you do. :lol:

carmencatalina
October 20th, 2011, 10:40 AM
Here is a link to the trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rga4rp4j5TY

12OzMouse
October 20th, 2011, 12:29 PM
IMbD has the entire first episode up to watch. This was released early and is not a leak or something illegal...

http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi3101793817/

They've even got it in HD. It's well worth the 45 minutes of your time to watch it!

12OzMouse
October 20th, 2011, 12:32 PM
I should have said that this is the pilot that has been released on ImbD. I'm not sure whether or not it counts as the first episode or not. Regardless, this is the video's url:

http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi3101793817/

Calluna
October 20th, 2011, 12:47 PM
Yeah I watched that earlier today. I think it looks promising, they've tied to two storylines together well for a pilot and I can't wait to see where they are going. I thought Robert Carlyle was good playing yet another ambiguous character.He's even more crazy that Rush though. ;) :D (I don't think that's a spoiler really)

And the scenery was beautiful, especially that beginning scene.

I never noticed before how much Jennifer Morrison and Ginnifer Goodwin look alike, good casting.

And Bra'tac was in it! Yay! Since it is filming in Vancouver, no doubt it will turn into a weekly recurring game of "spot that Stargate/Syfy actor" soon enough. ;)

Ukko
October 20th, 2011, 01:15 PM
IMbD has the entire first episode up to watch. This was released early and is not a leak or something illegal...

http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi3101793817/

They've even got it in HD. It's well worth the 45 minutes of your time to watch it!

I cant watch in my country!:( *Cries*

Cairistiona
October 20th, 2011, 01:21 PM
I cant watch in my country!:( *Cries*

Same here :(:mad:

mr_kennedy
October 20th, 2011, 01:49 PM
Im going to give this a try atleast


Yeah I watched that earlier today. I think it looks promising, they've tied to two storylines together well for a pilot and I can't wait to see where they are going. I thought Robert Carlyle was good playing yet another ambiguous character.He's even more crazy that Rush though. ;) :D (I don't think that's a spoiler really)

And the scenery was beautiful, especially that beginning scene.

I never noticed before how much Jennifer Morrison and Ginnifer Goodwin look alike, good casting.

And Bra'tac was in it! Yay! Since it is filming in Vancouver, no doubt it will turn into a weekly recurring game of "spot that Stargate/Syfy actor" soon enough. ;)

Is that really a bad thing?

carmencatalina
October 20th, 2011, 01:58 PM
I am going to wait to watch on my television (larger screen than my computer) - am looking forward to playing "spot the SG alum!" weekly!

gotthammer
October 20th, 2011, 03:35 PM
I should have said that this is the pilot that has been released on ImbD. I'm not sure whether or not it counts as the first episode or not. Regardless, this is the video's url:

http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi3101793817/

Thanks for the link. :D

Quite interesting. I guess it's another show to follow. :D

greytop
October 20th, 2011, 03:45 PM
I am going to wait to watch on my television (larger screen than my computer) - am looking forward to playing "spot the SG alum!" weekly!Same here. And I'm recording it on my DVR also.

Calluna
October 20th, 2011, 05:02 PM
Is that really a bad thing?

No it is certainly not a bad thing. The show is very entertaining so far, I hope all my favorite syfy actors get a chance to appear in it for at least the next season. Several lesser known actors I like are apparently recurring in the show and I hope get better known from the publicity. And I meant "spot that (Vancouver) actor!" as a good thing.

EvilSpaceAlien
October 20th, 2011, 05:30 PM
I cant watch in my country!:( *Cries*


Same here :(:mad:

That's weird, I can watch it without any problems at all, and I live in Sweden. Seems a bit strange that it's blocked in your countries but not over here...

jeri
October 20th, 2011, 07:16 PM
Here is a nice article about Robert Carlyle and OUAT
http://www.montrealgazette.com/entertainment/Robert+Carlyle+finds+golden+opportunity+Once+Upon+Time/5581387/story.html

Browncoat1984
October 20th, 2011, 09:59 PM
I just watched it, definitely impressed. I originally wasn't going to but the more I've seen of it the more interesting it looked. Definitely character driven with a lot of Lost-style mystery behind the characters. I hope we delve into more fairy tale characters like Sleeping Beauty, The Little Mermaid and Peter Pan as the series progresses.

I originally wasn't going to watch it because I gave No Ordinary Family a chance last year and thought it was decent (if flawed) and ABC canceled it. Hopefully they give this a chance but I think it'll go further simply because it seems this show is getting a lot more publicity than that show did, and it seems to move a lot faster.

Curious observation - they place her in a wardrobe that transports her to our world from a magical world...that's very Narnian IMO. I wonder if that's a nod to C.S. Lewis' Chronicles of Narnia (which could also be considered a fairy tale I think)? I know in The Magicians Nephew he mentions that there are doors to other worlds other than just Narnia (and at one point the kids visit the world of The White Witch).

VampyreWraith
October 21st, 2011, 05:06 AM
I liked the first episode a lot, I hope this show does well. :)

teyla-nick94
October 21st, 2011, 05:07 AM
That's weird, I can watch it without any problems at all, and I live in Sweden. Seems a bit strange that it's blocked in your countries but not over here...

Yeah, but Cairi and I live in Germany. And we can't watch it here ;( What a pity. It would have been the perfect start for my weekend. ;(

carmencatalina
October 21st, 2011, 08:58 AM
Curious observation - they place her in a wardrobe that transports her to our world from a magical world...that's very Narnian IMO. I wonder if that's a nod to C.S. Lewis' Chronicles of Narnia (which could also be considered a fairy tale I think)?

I couldn't resist and watched it last night (I'll watch it again on my TV - the visuals deserve a bigger screen!), and that is EXACTLY what I thought! A nod to C.S. Lewis - I loved that bit.

teyla-nick94
October 21st, 2011, 09:13 AM
I couldn't resist and watched it last night (I'll watch it again on my TV - the visuals deserve a bigger screen!), and that is EXACTLY what I thought! A nod to C.S. Lewis - I loved that bit.

You know I totally envy you now??

carmencatalina
October 21st, 2011, 09:57 AM
You know I totally envy you now??

Are you going to be able to see the show (I can't remember where you are)? I'm thinking it will be good - an interesting show to follow.

Of course, I'm 99% certain it will get canceled after 1 season, if it is at all good and if I like it.

Maybe I should not watch it, to protect it from cancellation? Since I seem to be the kiss of death . . .

Platypus_Man
October 21st, 2011, 11:14 AM
Once Upon A Time is a new Fantasy/Drama show that starts on ABC this Sunday. So far, that I know of, it has two Stargate stars in the Pilot of the series.

Mr. Gold.....................Robert Carlye
Black Knight...............James "BamBam' Bamford



Note to the mods: If you think that this thread belongs to another threads, please move it.
I won't get mad it you do. :lol:

I watched the pilot back in the summer at Comic Con. If BamBam is in it, you can't really see him. The knights are pretty costumed up.

And Robert Carlyle is a series regular. He'll be in more than just the pilot



My pics from the One Upon a Time Comic Con panel

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157627182340655/

possible spoilers in images below


Jennifer Morrison and I during the filming of the pilot last year

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5558217036/in/set-72157624861530393

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5135/5558217036_01cec579d6_z.jpg


then again during ep 2's shooting

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5980642360/in/set-72157624861530393

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6139/5980642360_84e760beab_z.jpg


Robert Carlyle and I during ep 4's filming

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6058551994/in/set-72157624861530393


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6197/6058551994_52bf650e30_z.jpg

Falling Skies' Jessy Schram and I during ep 4. She was guest starring as Cinderella

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/376762424.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1319225190&Signature=ebJen%2B8GgEShBWhUK8w%2BMGjtes8%3D

Thor's Josh Dallas who plays Prince Charming. This pic was during ep 6's filming

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6143018054/in/set-72157624861530393


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6070/6143018054_7e942667e4_z.jpg



Jamie Dornan who plays the sheriff. This was at the Once Upon a Cure event recently when almost the entire cast was attending. Jennifer Morrison took this photo of he and I hehe

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6184016441/in/set-72157624861530393

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6166/6184016441_79c24732c0_z.jpg

teyla-nick94
October 21st, 2011, 12:09 PM
Are you going to be able to see the show (I can't remember where you are)? I'm thinking it will be good - an interesting show to follow.

Of course, I'm 99% certain it will get canceled after 1 season, if it is at all good and if I like it.

Maybe I should not watch it, to protect it from cancellation? Since I seem to be the kiss of death . . .

Stop thinking like that!!!!

I really hope, the show won't be cancelled! Not again a show I'll surely love!

I live in Germany, that's why I couldn't watch the pilot ;(
I hope someone will upload the show on youtube, so that I can watch it. Otherwise I would have to wait til it starts in Germany and only God know, how long that's gonna take. I won't survive ;( I don't wanna wait any longer!!!

Browncoat1984
October 21st, 2011, 01:48 PM
ABC had better not cancel it. They already pulled that on No Ordinary Family and if they do it with this I'll never watch another genre show on ABC again (not until it gets like 4 seasons at least).

lookupwardsnshare
October 21st, 2011, 04:58 PM
IMbD has the entire first episode up to watch. This was released early and is not a leak or something illegal...

http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi3101793817/

They've even got it in HD. It's well worth the 45 minutes of your time to watch it!

I liked it!! Can't wait to watch more. It kinda reminded me of The Neverending Story and I love that movie since I was a kid. The show has potential...is it supposed to be a miniseries? 1 or 2 seasons only?? Good pilot though!:P *two thumbs up*

Cairistiona
October 22nd, 2011, 03:39 AM
I'm still not able to watch it, but why have they put it on their webside? All the people who are interested in it watch it and when it's aired on TV the station complains about not having enough viewers?

Eri8321317
October 22nd, 2011, 04:48 AM
ABC had better not cancel it. They already pulled that on No Ordinary Family and if they do it with this I'll never watch another genre show on ABC again (not until it gets like 4 seasons at least).

They better have not cancel it, or I will write a strongly worded letter to them. I mean, how does a network even continue to FUNCTION if they end up canceling just about EVERY new show they bring us? I mean, give it a fricken chance past the first season. First seasons are ALWAYS intended to run slow and kind of ease into all they promise to bring into the second. Cause, you have to set the story, back stories, characters, etc. But I think OUAT did a good job mixing elements, characters, story, back story, action into just the first episode.

Plus I'll be highly pissed (excuse my language) if another BIG network cans Robert Carlyle. Cause I mean, two big, major networks within, let's say, a year of each other? I'd be too nervous he'd just say "screw it" and go back to Scotland. I kind of WANT him to keep appearing on our TV heh.

But fangirl tendencies aside, I mean, we NEED shows like this. I am SICK of the reality shows already.

(Not flaming, just my personal opinion. We really do have too many reality shows to make one sick)

Eri8321317
October 22nd, 2011, 04:54 AM
Robert Carlyle and I during ep 4's filming

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6058551994/in/set-72157624861530393


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6197/6058551994_52bf650e30_z.jpg


Sorry to double post, but do you know how overly uber jealous I am of you right now? Heh, I gotta say, the man looks good in a suit (and purple). I cannot wait to see what they do with Rumpel's whole back story.

And I hate to be a big fangirl and ask, I'm sure you got to chat with him just a tiny bit, was he nice/cool/awesome? Feel free to not answer me. Just I think I could leave this Earth happy if I even had a smidgen of a chance to meet him.

Robert aside, your pics from the con are awesome, and how cool it is that you've met other cast members and actually witnessed some of the filming. Also, if you don't mind me saying, you have a nice smile.

Krisz
October 22nd, 2011, 10:24 AM
Here I am, been looking for a thread for this, blink and I miss it! Thanks for the heads up Carmencatalina. :)

I've been looking forward to this, always a joy to watch Robert Carlyle in action. Of course that video isn't available in my country either, and I live in the place it's filmed so that is extra annoying!! LOL! So, will wait for tomorrow and watch it on the 52" screen in all its HD glory!

It looks pretty stunning on reading this article about the set design in the Vancouver Sun this morning.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Fabricating+fairy+tale+world/5592327/story.html

I will enjoy looking out for all our Stargate favourites too as I'm sure they will make appearances over time.




Are you going to be able to see the show (I can't remember where you are)? I'm thinking it will be good - an interesting show to follow.

Of course, I'm 99% certain it will get canceled after 1 season, if it is at all good and if I like it.

Maybe I should not watch it, to protect it from cancellation? Since I seem to be the kiss of death . . .

You are not alone in feeling this. This happens to me too! I've lost count of how many shows I've liked that get cancelled and the ones I have no interest in go on for ever!!!

Terra Nova didn't appeal to me at all and I haven't even watched one episode and it looks to be doing well, I just know it will get renewed, which is good news for all those that are enjoying it! :)

So, will be interesting to us both how this show does! :D

jeri
October 22nd, 2011, 10:42 AM
I couldn't resist and watched it last night (I'll watch it again on my TV - the visuals deserve a bigger screen!), and that is EXACTLY what I thought! A nod to C.S. Lewis - I loved that bit.HaHaHa! I knew it! You couldn't wait!:)
I'm with you about being afraid it will get canceled, everything I've liked for so long now gets canceled! It's really the dumbing down of the masses, and there's a lot of those dumb masses out there that keep them cranking out the stupid reality shows and such. The species is doomed.:(

carmencatalina
October 22nd, 2011, 01:08 PM
HaHaHa! I knew it! You couldn't wait!:)

I tried, really I did, but it has been so long since we've gotten to see our dear Mr. Carlyle . . .

It was interesting - I was definitely intrigued and am wanting to see more!

Browncoat1984
October 23rd, 2011, 04:05 PM
I actually almost liked him better in this role than as Rush. It seems like he'll get to stretch his acting chops even more with this dual-personality role.

Alteran of Atlantis
October 23rd, 2011, 04:25 PM
I got to watch a bit of it, and have it recording now, seems like it's going to be a good show, it's interesting. :D

J-Whitt Remastered
October 23rd, 2011, 05:20 PM
Very good episode. Definitely looking forward to more in the coming weeks. My wife enjoyed it a lot too. I was kinda surprised by that.

Giantevilhead
October 23rd, 2011, 07:30 PM
Tony Amendola was Geppetto.

Krisz
October 23rd, 2011, 08:23 PM
Tony Amendola was Geppetto.

I thought that was an interesting bit of casting and he really suits the part strangely enough! It was good to see him again.

I wasn't sure about the beginning of this, all over the place with frenetic scene setting, but it seemed to settle down a bit. I think it will be quite interesting and looking forward to next weeks episode.

Reminded me a bit of a series a few years back called 'The 10th Kingdom', where our world and a world where fairy tales and magic were real existed alongside ours and accessed through the evil queen's "mirror, mirror on the wall...".

So Robert Carlyle is the devious, knows everything, but strings everyone along guy..... again!!! :P I was surprised as to how small his role was in this first episode. Would have been nice to see more of him.

majorsal
October 23rd, 2011, 08:42 PM
i watched it. i'd watch anything that the Lost writers did. i liked it. :)

Sp!der
October 24th, 2011, 12:06 AM
i watched it. i'd watch anything that the Lost writers did. i liked it. :)

Me As well plus Robert Carlyle, hope it will last, but I see it getting canceled after the second season :/

mi_guard
October 24th, 2011, 01:17 AM
http://www.spoilertv.com/2011/10/once-upon-time-episode-102-thing-you_24.html

Promo for episode 2: The thing you love most

imwebgurl
October 24th, 2011, 02:34 AM
I cant watch in my country!:( *Cries*

I'm in Australia and I can't watch it either. I can't wait...it looks exciting - the story, the action & the VFX. We get Once Upon a Time in 2012, not sure exactly what date, how about you?

Cheers, webgurl

jelgate
October 24th, 2011, 07:55 AM
Ratings are in. The series premiere drew 3.9 HH 18-49 and 12.793 million viewers.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/10/24/tv-ratings-sunday-once-upon-a-time-starts-with-fairy-tale-ratings/108146/

Platypus_Man
October 24th, 2011, 10:07 AM
Sorry to double post, but do you know how overly uber jealous I am of you right now? Heh, I gotta say, the man looks good in a suit (and purple). I cannot wait to see what they do with Rumpel's whole back story.

And I hate to be a big fangirl and ask, I'm sure you got to chat with him just a tiny bit, was he nice/cool/awesome? Feel free to not answer me. Just I think I could leave this Earth happy if I even had a smidgen of a chance to meet him.

Robert aside, your pics from the con are awesome, and how cool it is that you've met other cast members and actually witnessed some of the filming. Also, if you don't mind me saying, you have a nice smile.



lol ok thanks for the smile comment haha :o

I met Robert Carlyle briefly before SGU premiered. I know he's a bit of private person socially. But chatting with him briefly at Once Upon a Time filming on a couple of occasions and again at the recent Once Upon a Cure charity gala, he seems pretty approachable and friendly. I mean my impressions of him from all his serious roles made me cautious around him but he was all smiles and laughs when I talked to him. I have nothing bad to say about him. In fact all the Once Upon a Time cast and exec producers are just great people

teyla-nick94
October 24th, 2011, 10:28 AM
Just watched it and all I can say: Damn it! These show is gonna be sooo awesome!!!

Rumpy: Totally freaky, crazy but sooo cute!! And his laughter :D Just great!! And the way he speaks :D Please, I want him to scare my ex best friend :D

Mr Gold: Really, he is kind of scary. And I think he knows that he is Rumplestilskin. It's the way he looked at Emma. And the way he looks at everyone else. They're afraid of him I think. At least Granny and the other girl. (is Little Red Riding Hood correct? Or what's her name?)

Evil Queen/Major: She IS scary as well! She really threatens Emma the first moment she knew she would be a danger for her to keep Henry. I'm curious what she's gonna do next.

Henry: The boy's sooo sweet! Just ten years old but already so smart :)

Snow White: I don't know how to think of her yet, but it's very brave of her to just leave her child in the wardrobe, not knowing what will happen to her. :)

Mary: I have the feeling that she's not happy with her life in Storybrook.

To the episode: I liked it. Oh yeah, I did :) And I can't wait for more :)
What I also liked was the switching of the scenes all the time :)
My favorite scene: Rumpy in his cell!!! Sooo cool! I want to see more of him. He seems to know everything!!!!

carmencatalina
October 24th, 2011, 11:10 AM
Ratings are in. The series premiere drew 3.9 HH 18-49 and 12.793 million viewers.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/10/24/tv-ratings-sunday-once-upon-a-time-starts-with-fairy-tale-ratings/108146/

According to tvbythenumbers, that's ABC's best series premiere "this fall or last fall", so good.

mi_guard
October 24th, 2011, 11:13 AM
According to tvbythenumbers, that's ABC's best series premiere "this fall or last fall", so good.

so let's hope the numbers keep high for the next ones

wondering how important the role of RC is in this serie, can't really judge from the first episode

hope to see Mr. Gold often :)

teyla-nick94
October 24th, 2011, 11:24 AM
so let's hope the numbers keep high for the next ones

wondering how important the role of RC is in this serie, can't really judge from the first episode

hope to see Mr. Gold often :)

I think Rumpy is really important. He knows so much others don't know. And I would like to know how he ended up being locked up in a cell.
And Mr. Gold *faints faints --> lying on the floor*

tomstone
October 24th, 2011, 11:34 AM
This is going to be a very interresting, though I have to say that I did not like the Pilot. The Story is promissing and everything, but somehow they spent all their time in cramming as much information and Characters as possible into the Episode, so in the end I was intrigued, but didnt enjoy the Episode.

Rush as Rumpelstielzchen, now thats going to be fun.

jelgate
October 24th, 2011, 01:05 PM
According to tvbythenumbers, that's ABC's best series premiere "this fall or last fall", so good.Lets note how some of the shows TVBTN compared Once Upon A Time to were cancelled in one or two seasons due to rapidly declining ratings.

mi_guard
October 24th, 2011, 02:19 PM
I am looking forward to one season. If there will be more, I'll be happy, if not, well I will at least have had one season.

Don't expect too much, so you do not risk to be disappointed.

kitkat3ny
October 24th, 2011, 03:22 PM
I'm so happy the rating were fantastic for the premiere. Hopefully it will continue. I was just watching the show at first for Robert Carlyle, however, I actually like it.

Ian-S
October 24th, 2011, 05:46 PM
was it just my eyes playing tricks on me or were neither of them wearing a seat belt on the drive home?

jeri
October 24th, 2011, 06:28 PM
I'm thinking that Rumpy has made a deal with the Evil Queen, as alluded to in the trailer for next week, to have wealth or power somehow in Storybrooke if he helps EQ. But knowing how Robert Carlyle likes to play characters with substance, I bet Mr. Gold is not totally on board with EQ. He will certainly have his own agenda, but I doubt he will be truly evil, probably just greedy. We shall see.

Atlantis1
October 24th, 2011, 08:25 PM
I was not one to like "Lost" beyond the first season but with this show I have Robert Carlyle to watch.

mi_guard
October 25th, 2011, 01:24 AM
for those interested in apearances of SG alumns in OUAT, have read that Mark Gibbon will guest star (M'zel in SG1)

carmencatalina
October 25th, 2011, 08:27 AM
for those interested in apearances of SG alumns in OUAT, have read that Mark Gibbon will guest star (M'zel in SG1)

Given that it is being filmed in Vancouver (on the same stages as SGU was, in fact), I'm expecting to see lots of SG alumns this first season - so that's just an added bonus, as I've grown to feel that they are all "friends".

Platypus_Man
October 25th, 2011, 10:47 AM
There are definitely some cool guest stars coming up.

True Blood's Kristin Bauer, looking spooky
http://nicegirlstv.com/2011/10/24/once-upon-a-time-first-look-at-kristin-bauer-as-maleficent/


Alias' David Anders was recently in town shooting a guest spot

mi_guard
October 25th, 2011, 11:13 AM
this can help keeping up with the fairy tale characters and their counterpart in our world

http://nicegirlstv.com/2011/10/23/once-upon-a-time-whos-who-gallery-of-characters-graphic/

J-Whitt Remastered
October 25th, 2011, 04:23 PM
for those interested in apearances of SG alumns in OUAT, have read that Mark Gibbon will guest star (M'zel in SG1)

While watching the preview for the rest of the season I though I saw Christopher Heyerdahl. Looked like he could have been the Giant from Jack and the Beanstalk.

Browncoat1984
October 25th, 2011, 05:39 PM
I think Rumple is this series' Garak or Batlar. He has his own agenda and I can easily see him switching allegiance between both sides.

Krisz
October 25th, 2011, 06:48 PM
I think Rumple is this series' Garak or Batlar. He has his own agenda and I can easily see him switching allegiance between both sides.

Rumplestiltskin as this series' Garak, it would be a joy to watch! :D

If anyone is interested in locations, the area where the 'castle' is superimposed and the causeway across the water the horseman was riding in the early part of the episode was filmed at Pitt Lake. That causeway goes on for ever towards the mountains! My favourite chill out place. :)

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the fifth man
October 25th, 2011, 08:04 PM
My wife and I both liked the premiere. It does have promise. But, I still don't see it making it on ABC. I hope I am proven wrong.

jeri
October 25th, 2011, 08:47 PM
Here's an interesting article about OUAT and ancient myths, etc.
http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Ancient+legends+myths+cast+spell/5603943/story.html

HayleeDex
October 26th, 2011, 06:16 AM
I must say, I really hope this show makes it. In an age where most television consists of cop, lawyer, and doctor dramas, OUAT is a welcome relief. The pilot, IMO, could have been done better, but I still like the idea of it. I think it has a lot of potential, as well as a really great cast! This is me trying not to get my hopes up.

Demoniser
October 27th, 2011, 05:11 AM
I like the premise it's nice and fresh, and they have some decent actors in it.

Unfortunately, the pilot episode was absolutely abysmal.

carmencatalina
October 27th, 2011, 06:17 AM
Here's a cute promo/interview bit for TVGuide magazine with 4 of the actors from OUAT.

Bonus: Robert Carlyle juggling apples!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI8Q7qF0L5M

mi_guard
October 27th, 2011, 12:02 PM
here a trailer for next episode

http://www.spoilertv.com/2011/10/once-upon-time-critics-trailer.html#disqus_thread

I think I like Emma :)

teyla-nick94
October 28th, 2011, 06:18 AM
here a trailer for next episode

http://www.spoilertv.com/2011/10/once-upon-time-critics-trailer.html#disqus_thread

I think I like Emma :)

oh yeah, so do I :D She really knows how to get the EQ upset

s09119
October 28th, 2011, 01:07 PM
Watching the pilot now... god are there some bad effects. When the Queen comes into the wedding and you can see that they CGI'd the walking, wow was that obvious. Still, so far I'm very interested.

jeri
October 29th, 2011, 12:55 PM
I noticed the effects were not that great, but I can use my imagination. We were spoiled by the over the top effects on SGU. The technology has advanced so much the last few years, but still quite pricey to deliver.

Calluna
October 30th, 2011, 10:53 AM
I don't think the effects were too bad for a TV show. Yes there were a few times it was obviously greenscreen but overall I though they were fine and did not pull me out of the story.

I think we're going to get a lot more Robert Carlyle tonight, which should be awesome. :D

Sp!der
October 30th, 2011, 12:37 PM
I watched it but did not like it :/ I really wanted to especially for Robert Carlyle, but sorry... not my cup of tea although Emma Actress is a real beauty. I have to stick to Grimm though much more awesome!

tomstone
October 31st, 2011, 01:24 AM
Okay, Episode 1 didnt do it for me, but number 2 got me hooked. This is going to be alot of fun.

I would love to talk some detail but I cant find the button to insert spoilers anywhere.

Artemis-Neith
October 31st, 2011, 02:10 AM
OT: Just type manually: [_SPOILER] Text [_/SPOILER] — delete "_" after "["

Liked the first episode. It's an interesting approach to the genre, imo, and a good mixture of classical fairy-tales and fantasy. Curious to watch the 2. episode.

Quartz
October 31st, 2011, 04:50 AM
Watching the pilot now... god are there some bad effects. When the Queen comes into the wedding and you can see that they CGI'd the walking, wow was that obvious. Still, so far I'm very interested.

Yes, it was obvious in that it seemed to show how her movement was nearly effortless and how the EQ could take one step where others would take three. Magic and stuff.

My only complaint is that she (the Evil Queen) came off as a lesser Mab.

teyla-nick94
October 31st, 2011, 05:03 AM
This episode was great!!!
I like Mr. Gold more and more. He's sooo creepy! And the EQ/Regina is really underestimating him. He must remember who he is!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1GCY-7En1g

here's the promo for the next week episode :)

jelgate
October 31st, 2011, 10:02 AM
Epiosde 2 ratings are in.

It got a 3.9 HH 18-49 demo with 11.64 million viewers

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/10/31/tv-ratings-sunday-once-upon-a-time-holds-up-allen-gregory-debuts-weakly/108988/

The natural trend is that shows decrease in ratings after premiere. I was quite impressed to see such a small decrease.

KEK
October 31st, 2011, 11:41 AM
Watching the pilot now... god are there some bad effects. When the Queen comes into the wedding and you can see that they CGI'd the walking, wow was that obvious. Still, so far I'm very interested.

Erm, It's meant to look that way. She's supposed to be magically moved farther than she's walking... if that makes sense.

tomstone
October 31st, 2011, 01:26 PM
Here are the Details I'd like to talk about. :)

So are they rewriting the Fairytales too? The Queen kept saying that what she loved Died because of Snow White. The only thing she could mean was the Lumberjack that was supposed to Kill SW but let her escape. When he returned with a pigs heart as proof that Snow White is supposed to be Dead, the EQ found out about it through her Mirror and Killed him for this betrayel.

Thing is after seeing the Trailer for the next Episode, 2 Horseman where attacking her which if I dont remember wrong never happened in the Original Story.

Artemis-Neith
October 31st, 2011, 02:55 PM
Liked the second episode as much as the first one.

about the fairytales, and other things:

As far as I see it, they took some artistic licence for parts of the stories. That starts with the fact, that they put a lot of stories into one which don't belong together. And then, there're also different traditions. I for myself know (only) the German storylines, they may differ from stories which are told in other countries.

It might be difficult to stay too close with the original surrounding of the stories for today TV, but I think they kept the ideas behind the characters. For example Rumpelstiltskin is very different in his look, and in the original story he was never imprisoned, but vanished (klilled himself) at the end of the story. But the tricky character is the same. The obsession with namens, and deals, and his special abilities.
Evil queens on the other hand, never survive the traditional storylines. This one does, for an evil price.

In the Snow-White story I know, the queen asked one of her huntsman to kill the girl, and bring her the heart of her. It was just one, and he couldn't do it and killed instead of the girl, a deer.

tomstone
October 31st, 2011, 05:00 PM
Liked the second episode as much as the first one.

about the fairytales, and other things:

As far as I see it, they took some artistic licence for parts of the stories. That starts with the fact, that they put a lot of stories into one which don't belong together. And then, there're also different traditions. I for myself know (only) the German storylines, they may differ from stories which are told in other countries.

It might be difficult to stay too close with the original surrounding of the stories for today TV, but I think they kept the ideas behind the characters. For example Rumpelstiltskin is very different in his look, and in the original story he was never imprisoned, but vanished (klilled himself) at the end of the story. But the tricky character is the same. The obsession with namens, and deals, and his special abilities.
Evil queens on the other hand, never survive the traditional storylines. This one does, for an evil price.

In the Snow-White story I know, the queen asked one of her huntsman to kill the girl, and bring her the heart of her. It was just one, and he couldn't do it and killed instead of the girl, a deer.

I am starting to see that I dont remember those Tales as good as I used to. I learned the German Stories just like you, but for Example the Heart thing was a invention of Disney, in the Original Story it was supposed to be her lungs and liver that the Queen wanted as proof. Even more she was planning to eat them.

Though I am not sure why they need to change things to make them usable for todays Television, I am very interrested to see what else is different in this Series.

Just seeing the Evil Queen and Maleficent in the same room was pure awesomeness.

jeri
October 31st, 2011, 08:48 PM
I think I read or listened to an interview with the creators of the show that they were going to go their own way with characters and interweaving stories. I think they are mainly interested in the character of the characters, if you know what I mean.:)

Krisz
October 31st, 2011, 08:50 PM
The jury is still out for me.

Robert Carlyle has been the best thing in this for me, for the few brief moments he's been on screen so far he's got the most presence, skillfully bringing his character to life. A joy to watch as always. :)

jeri
October 31st, 2011, 09:23 PM
Here's a new article talking about OUAT and Robert Carlyle. Apparently this gal just discovered RC, where's she been? Hiding under a rock? LOL:p
http://blogcritics.org/video/article/once-upon-a-times-robert-carlyle/

majorsal
October 31st, 2011, 09:46 PM
i like the evil queen the most. the character and the actress :p

(this would be the part i'd want in the series)

jeri
October 31st, 2011, 10:29 PM
i like the evil queen the most. the character and the actress :p

(this would be the part i'd want in the series)Yeah, I want my chance to be Evil Queen for the day!:D

AresLover452
November 1st, 2011, 12:08 AM
I am so loving this show!! It is awesome!!

tomstone
November 1st, 2011, 02:33 AM
Does anybody know what Character the Sheriff is supposed to be?

I also wonder about the Lady in the Inn and that rebellious Teenager. Maybe Cinderellas Stepmother and one of her Stepsisters?

mi_guard
November 1st, 2011, 02:44 AM
Does anybody know what Character the Sheriff is supposed to be?

I also wonder about the Lady in the Inn and that rebellious Teenager. Maybe Cinderellas Stepmother and one of her Stepsisters?

check out this post http://forum.gateworld.net/threads/83057-Once-Upon-A-Time-(spoilers-possible)?p=12995349&viewfull=1#post12995349

no idea (yet) for the sheriff, but the Teenager and the Lady are Red Riding Hood and her Granny :D

tomstone
November 1st, 2011, 03:10 AM
check out this post http://forum.gateworld.net/threads/83057-Once-Upon-A-Time-(spoilers-possible)?p=12995349&viewfull=1#post12995349

no idea (yet) for the sheriff, but the Teenager and the Lady are Red Riding Hood and her Granny :D

Thanks, and Oh my God, this will be a strange Series, if it makes it past 1 Season. Honestly I fear with Grimm in the Picture only one Series will Survive, I dont want either to end early, but I cant quite see them running at the same time without getting in each others way.

KEK
November 1st, 2011, 05:33 AM
It does seem a bit wrong that the evil queen is so much hotter than snow white... :lol:

carmencatalina
November 1st, 2011, 06:09 AM
Here's a new article talking about OUAT and Robert Carlyle. Apparently this gal just discovered RC, where's she been? Hiding under a rock? LOL:p
http://blogcritics.org/video/article/once-upon-a-times-robert-carlyle/

She had never seen SGU, either, but decided to watch it after seeing Carlyle in OUAT. And of course, thought he was great in it.

Le sigh.

Oh well, at least OUAT is getting some viewers, some good press, and good ratings. Let's hope for a reasonable run - I want to see this story play out!

jeri
November 1st, 2011, 07:44 AM
It does seem a bit wrong that the evil queen is so much hotter than snow white... :lol:I think the casting is perfect with those two. Snow White should have a bit of sweetness to her, she just doesn't have the "weight" to be truly evil. There is something really scary about such a beautiful woman being so evil, and Lana Parrilla can pull that off. I'd definitely be afraid of getting in the way of this gal! Jennifer Goodwin doesn't scare me one bit, even if she really was bad.:p

jeri
November 1st, 2011, 07:46 AM
She had never seen SGU, either, but decided to watch it after seeing Carlyle in OUAT. And of course, thought he was great in it.

Le sigh.

Oh well, at least OUAT is getting some viewers, some good press, and good ratings. Let's hope for a reasonable run - I want to see this story play out!Yes, another convert to SGU, too late. I hold fast to my belief that if SGU had been on a reasonable network it would have been popular and still on. I know so many people who don't even consider SyFy because of the "silly" programming.

AresLover452
November 2nd, 2011, 02:32 PM
I am so loving Mr. Gold!!! He is awesome!

TheRandomOne
November 2nd, 2011, 08:58 PM
Real World Evil ***** is hot. Fairy Tale Snow White is hot. I find their counterparts not hot. I wonder what Emma will look like when she eventually makes it back to Fairy Tale World ? & Dr. Rush totally remembers Fairy Tale World & it looks like the evil ***** does as well

jelgate
November 3rd, 2011, 05:43 PM
Hardly a surprise but Once Upon A Time got a full season pickkup bringing Season 1 to 22 episodes

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/11/03/abc-picks-up-full-seasons-of-once-upon-a-time-last-man-standing-and-happy-endings-orders-additional-scripts-for-pan-am/109596/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Tvbythenumbers+%28TVbytheNumbers%29

jeri
November 3rd, 2011, 06:19 PM
Hardly a surprise but Once Upon A Time got a full season pickkup bringing Season 1 to 22 episodes

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/11/03/abc-picks-up-full-seasons-of-once-upon-a-time-last-man-standing-and-happy-endings-orders-additional-scripts-for-pan-am/109596/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Tvbythenumbers+%28TVbytheNumbers%29Thanks for the news!:)

AresLover452
November 4th, 2011, 12:37 AM
that is awesome!! More Robert Carlyle! Yay!! Love him as Mr. Gold!

Homer 120
November 4th, 2011, 02:36 AM
YES!!! AFTER ONLY 2 EPISODES :D :D :D

Robert Carlyle has so far given the best delivery of each line his best scene was that second to last scene in ''Those We Love The Most'' with the Mayor/Evil Queen, liked the twist with the Evil Queen's father being Henry did NOT see that coming!

carmencatalina
November 4th, 2011, 12:21 PM
Hardly a surprise but Once Upon A Time got a full season pickkup bringing Season 1 to 22 episodes

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/11/03/abc-picks-up-full-seasons-of-once-upon-a-time-last-man-standing-and-happy-endings-orders-additional-scripts-for-pan-am/109596/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Tvbythenumbers+%28TVbytheNumbers%29

Excellent news!

teyla-nick94
November 6th, 2011, 02:45 AM
I wonder what was the prize he wanted for bringing the EQ the boy?

TheRandomOne
November 6th, 2011, 04:50 PM
It is quite amusing seeing how far the Mayor is willing to go to stop Emma

Krisz
November 6th, 2011, 05:50 PM
This was a lot better this week. This show is getting more interesting. I think it's going to be amusing to watch the EQ and Emma working to outdo each other.

jeri
November 6th, 2011, 09:09 PM
Yes, it's getting interesting. The only thing that bothers me right now is the language in Fairy tale land seems to every day. I think the use of modern slang like a troll from under the bridge saying"who's this guy?" sounds strange, it should be more like "who be this?" And I was amazed that we have educated trolls that can read!
Oh, well, small quibbles.:p

jelgate
November 7th, 2011, 08:12 AM
3.7 HH18-49 demo and 11.38 million viewers

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/11/07/tv-ratings-sunday-once-upon-a-time-falls-but-not-far-ravens-steelers-dominates-night/109772/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Tvbythenumbers+%28TVbytheNumbers%29

carmencatalina
November 7th, 2011, 09:57 AM
3.7 HH18-49 demo and 11.38 million viewers

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/11/07/tv-ratings-sunday-once-upon-a-time-falls-but-not-far-ravens-steelers-dominates-night/109772/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Tvbythenumbers+%28TVbytheNumbers%29

Looks like it is still doing quite well - ABC must be happy.

Platschu
November 7th, 2011, 11:45 AM
I love this show. I can't deny it anymore. :D :D :D

AresLover452
November 8th, 2011, 09:06 PM
I loved Emma going after the apple tree with a chainsaw!!!

jeri
November 9th, 2011, 10:45 AM
I loved Emma going after the apple tree with a chainsaw!!!

Yeah! We could use her here on the ranch! Go, Girl, Go!:D

Homer 120
November 9th, 2011, 11:28 AM
Loving this show so far! Last episode went back up to 3.8 in the demo for the Sunday Night Finals! Looks like ABC have found their hit, most of their new shows have seen MASSIVE drops in the numbers, where as ONCE UPON A TIME has retained almost 100% of its Pilot audience in its first THREE episodes!

The full Season pick-up after the second episode is also a good sign! Lets hope it doesn't follow the foot steps of FLASH-FORWARD and THE EVENT and actually get a second Season.

An early renewal won't come as a surprise for me, considering the numbers the show has been getting thus far. ONCE UPON A TIME is also winning the timeslot! Best performing Sunday Night scripted show.

One question I have is, Does Mr. Gold (Carlyle) know what's really going on? Or are we meant to believe he is? Carlyle is the type of actor that can play these type of characters (Mr. Gold/Rumple & Rush) and somehow make you believe that there's more to him than meets the eye.

All in all, BEST new show of the Season second to PERSON OF INTEREST

jelgate
November 9th, 2011, 12:49 PM
Loving this show so far! Last episode went back up to 3.8 in the demo for the Sunday Night Finals! Looks like ABC have found their hit, most of their new shows have seen MASSIVE drops in the numbers, where as ONCE UPON A TIME has retained almost 100% of its Pilot audience in its first THREE episodes!

The full Season pick-up after the second episode is also a good sign! Lets hope it doesn't follow the foot steps of FLASH-FORWARD and THE EVENT and actually get a second Season.

An early renewal won't come as a surprise for me, considering the numbers the show has been getting thus far. ONCE UPON A TIME is also winning the timeslot! Best performing Sunday Night scripted show.

One question I have is, Does Mr. Gold (Carlyle) know what's really going on? Or are we meant to believe he is? Carlyle is the type of actor that can play these type of characters (Mr. Gold/Rumple & Rush) and somehow make you believe that there's more to him than meets the eye.

All in all, BEST new show of the Season second to PERSON OF INTEREST
I caution you of becoming too optimistic. While the numbers are high and good they haven't stablized from the season premiere drop you see after a show premieres. Using the Flash Forward example it was pretty high when it premiered and dropped real fast.

AresLover452
November 9th, 2011, 01:25 PM
Yeah! We could use her here on the ranch! Go, Girl, Go!:D

I loved that part!! and then she threatens to go back for the rest of the tree! It was AWESOME!

tomstone
November 9th, 2011, 03:07 PM
Loving this show so far! Last episode went back up to 3.8 in the demo for the Sunday Night Finals! Looks like ABC have found their hit, most of their new shows have seen MASSIVE drops in the numbers, where as ONCE UPON A TIME has retained almost 100% of its Pilot audience in its first THREE episodes!

The full Season pick-up after the second episode is also a good sign! Lets hope it doesn't follow the foot steps of FLASH-FORWARD and THE EVENT and actually get a second Season.

An early renewal won't come as a surprise for me, considering the numbers the show has been getting thus far. ONCE UPON A TIME is also winning the timeslot! Best performing Sunday Night scripted show.

One question I have is, Does Mr. Gold (Carlyle) know what's really going on? Or are we meant to believe he is? Carlyle is the type of actor that can play these type of characters (Mr. Gold/Rumple & Rush) and somehow make you believe that there's more to him than meets the eye.

All in all, BEST new show of the Season second to PERSON OF INTEREST

I guess Rumpel knows very well whats going on, he is simply enjoying the Show. If there was a protection against it, he had to have it, alone his reaction when hearing Emmas Name should tipp us off that he knows very well who she is.

jeri
November 9th, 2011, 09:25 PM
I guess Rumpel knows very well whats going on, he is simply enjoying the Show. If there was a protection against it, he had to have it, alone his reaction when hearing Emmas Name should tipp us off that he knows very well who she is.

I agree with you there, I think it's what Rumpy had in mind all along, to sit back and watch the show. Although Rumpilstiltskin is traditionally a trickster, so I'm sure there's more to it.

kudra
November 12th, 2011, 02:13 PM
This actually looks interesting and I'm always happy to watch stuff with Robert Carlyle - his Rumplestiltskin looks very entertaining from the trailers. Hope we don't have to wait too long to get it in the UK.

daniel9
November 13th, 2011, 04:04 AM
Once Upon a Time: First Ten Minutes of Episode #1x04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKDRqEqhZBQ

tomstone
November 13th, 2011, 06:40 PM
Nice Episode once again with a great WTF moment at the end.

Puts up the Question again who the Sheriff is. My guess is that he is the Queens Huntsman, though in that case I couldnt explain why he is alive. I thought the Curse wasnt able to bring the Dead back to life.

RJLCyberPunk
November 14th, 2011, 03:19 AM
I do like this show and Grimm as well and I hope both continue, unlike others I do not see why one gets in the other's way because even though they are based on Fairy tales both are pretty different as well.

I think that it needs to be clarified that Henry was the name of the Queen's father and thus it was the name she gave Emma's son. It was interesting to learn that only she and her son are the only ones that can leave the town at will. I also wonder if what she did only affects the Fairy Tale characters or it somehow spills into the rest of the world. As Rumpelstiltskin said all magic comes with a price. I guess we will find out...

carmencatalina
November 14th, 2011, 07:58 AM
Regarding last night's episode:


I am absolutely thrilled that now Emma owes Mr. Gold a "favor" - whatever shall it be, I wonder? Given that it was Mr. Gold that brought the baby Henry to the Mayor, he set into motion the actions that brought Emma to Storybrooke, and so seemingly set into motion the events that will end the curse.

Does he want the curse ended? And I wonder if the favor he will ask will have to do with his fate once the curse has ended?

I'm sure we won't know any of this for many, many episodes to come, but they have definitely set things up for something interesting.

Regarding the Sheriff, I was certain that he was the Wolf, but he mentioned being in "his world" when they were out in the forest looking for the coma patient last episode, so he may indeed be the Huntsman, sent to bring back Snow White's heart, who brings back a deer's heart instead (in the fairy tale). Were we told that the Queen had him killed?

Homer 120
November 14th, 2011, 08:05 AM
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/11/14/tv-ratings-sunday-once-upon-a-time-simpsons-allen-gregory-american-dad-down-desperate-housewives-pan-am-rise/110483/

GO ONCE UPON A TIME!! And up against a Football game too! Would NOT surprise me if we see an early renewal :D

jelgate
November 14th, 2011, 08:06 AM
Ratings are in once again.

Once Upon A Time got a 3.8 HH 18-49 and 11.327 million viewers

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/11/14/tv-ratings-sunday-once-upon-a-time-simpsons-allen-gregory-american-dad-down-desperate-housewives-pan-am-rise/110483/

tomstone
November 14th, 2011, 08:47 AM
Regarding last night's episode:


I am absolutely thrilled that now Emma owes Mr. Gold a "favor" - whatever shall it be, I wonder? Given that it was Mr. Gold that brought the baby Henry to the Mayor, he set into motion the actions that brought Emma to Storybrooke, and so seemingly set into motion the events that will end the curse.

Does he want the curse ended? And I wonder if the favor he will ask will have to do with his fate once the curse has ended?

I'm sure we won't know any of this for many, many episodes to come, but they have definitely set things up for something interesting.

Regarding the Sheriff, I was certain that he was the Wolf, but he mentioned being in "his world" when they were out in the forest looking for the coma patient last episode, so he may indeed be the Huntsman, sent to bring back Snow White's heart, who brings back a deer's heart instead (in the fairy tale). Were we told that the Queen had him killed?


The Queen never said it, but in the last Episode she kept saying she lost the one she loved most because of Snow White. I cant think of anyone else who she could mean. Of course losing doesnt mean dying, so maybe she lost the love for him after being betrayed and then locked him in Jail till the Curse took them?

Also they all appear to have more or less the same relationships then before coming to Storybrooke. Snow White is near her Prince, Red Riding Hood lives with Granny, Cinderalla and her Prince, Jiminy is still about being the concouisness of People and the EQ screws the Sheriff. Just saying they probably had to do with each other before coming to Town.

As for Rumpy:
I guess you might be right. At least it would make sense that he will ask the favour when it comes to going back to Storyworld. Speaking of which, do you think he still got magic on his side? His Deal from Storyworld with the EQ still goes as did the one with Cinderella and now that Emma made a Deal, will it be just as binding or could she just deny him the Favor when the time comes?

jeri
November 14th, 2011, 10:35 AM
So did you notice that Mr. Goldhas a gold tooth? LOL! Of coarse he would!

jeri
November 14th, 2011, 10:41 AM
Regarding last night's episode:


I am absolutely thrilled that now Emma owes Mr. Gold a "favor" - whatever shall it be, I wonder? Given that it was Mr. Gold that brought the baby Henry to the Mayor, he set into motion the actions that brought Emma to Storybrooke, and so seemingly set into motion the events that will end the curse.

Does he want the curse ended? And I wonder if the favor he will ask will have to do with his fate once the curse has ended?

I'm sure we won't know any of this for many, many episodes to come, but they have definitely set things up for something interesting.

Regarding the Sheriff, I was certain that he was the Wolf, but he mentioned being in "his world" when they were out in the forest looking for the coma patient last episode, so he may indeed be the Huntsman, sent to bring back Snow White's heart, who brings back a deer's heart instead (in the fairy tale). Were we told that the Queen had him killed?


Yes, Gold gave up that baby rather easy as soon as Emma offered a deal. Oh, dear, I think this will not be good for Emma, or maybe as you said he wants a better deal for himself when the curse is broken. I'm still thinking he knows what's going on.

carmencatalina
November 14th, 2011, 12:46 PM
According to jelgate's posts:

Episode 1:
3.9 HH 18-49 and 12.793 million viewers

Episode 2:
3.9 HH 18-49 demo with 11.64 million viewers

Episode 3:
3.7 HH18-49 demo and 11.38 million viewers

Episode 4:
3.8 HH 18-49 and 11.327 million viewers


Looks like it is holding quite steady, so I am happy to be liking a show that isn't going to suddenly disappear.

jelgate
November 14th, 2011, 01:03 PM
According to jelgate's posts:


Looks like it is holding quite steady, so I am happy to be liking a show that isn't going to suddenly disappear.
Thats an understatement. You might even get an extra epiosde or two if continues to be a ratings powerhouse:P

Bear in mind those are just the fast track numbers. I don't usually bother posting the final numbers that come in the evening because the adjustment are usually not that huge.

Ukko
November 14th, 2011, 01:28 PM
Given the theme of this show, i've decided to name Jelgate the Ratings Fairy.:p

jelgate
November 14th, 2011, 01:31 PM
Given the theme of this show, i've decided to name Jelgate the Ratings Fairy.:p
Don't make me turn you into a frog. You'll have to find a princess to kiss you. I don't think any exist:P

mi_guard
November 14th, 2011, 11:30 PM
Don't make me turn you into a frog. You'll have to find a princess to kiss you. I don't think any exist:P

and even if she existed, she risks to be turned into a frog lady :)

jeri
November 15th, 2011, 08:22 AM
According to jelgate's posts:


Looks like it is holding quite steady, so I am happy to be liking a show that isn't going to suddenly disappear.

Yes it looks promising. It's getting more interesting going along, so hope the numbers stay up, anything I find interesting usually gets canceled!

tomstone
November 15th, 2011, 02:03 PM
Yes it looks promising. It's getting more interesting going along, so hope the numbers stay up, anything I find interesting usually gets canceled!

I am starting to think that too. :D
Though from the pattern I have seen the last Years, Once upon a Time could just make it. It is a nice Family Story with some intrigue. It is a nice balance between things that pose questions and the great Storytelling they have going on.

Grimm on the other hand might just become the new Supernatural once the Final Season ended.

Demundo59
November 15th, 2011, 03:47 PM
What nickname does Henry have for Emma that he doesnt think she is ready for?

Maybe Alice and Storybrooke is her Wonderland?
Anastasia the lost princess who returns?

Krisz
November 15th, 2011, 06:16 PM
I am starting to think that too. :D
Though from the pattern I have seen the last Years, Once upon a Time could just make it. It is a nice Family Story with some intrigue. It is a nice balance between things that pose questions and the great Storytelling they have going on.

Grimm on the other hand might just become the new Supernatural once the Final Season ended.

The fact that I haven't taken to this show yet will invariably mean it will continue, so that is good news for all of you who are already hooked! :D

I'd be quite happy for Grimm to become the new Supernatural! :)

I continue to watch this show because Robert Carlyle seems to be having so much fun playing Rumpelstiltskin and is a joy to watch as a result.

jeri
November 15th, 2011, 06:46 PM
I'm enjoying it because of Carlyle mostly. It's getting more interesting, but it's nothing like when I got hooked on SGU, that was an extremely rare thing for me!
Frankly, I'm not watching much TV at all these days.

AresLover452
November 16th, 2011, 07:09 PM
I started watching OUAT because of Carlyle. He makes any character AWESOME! I am loving his portrayal of Rumpelstiltskin.

Ukko
November 17th, 2011, 06:00 AM
Don't make me turn you into a frog. You'll have to find a princess to kiss you. I don't think any exist:P

Then i'd have to settle for a prince.:p............Wait...

mi_guard
November 17th, 2011, 01:14 PM
Interesting: Emilie de Ravin („Lost“) got the part of Belle (from the Beauty and the Beast) in „Once Upon A Time“. The only detail known so far is that Belle will have something to do with Rumpelstiltskin :).

in German
http://www.sf-radio.net/webbeat/serien/meldung,emiliederavinspieltinmarchenserie,1,15967,00.php

jeri
November 17th, 2011, 06:42 PM
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/th_RCflicker11.jpg (http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/RCflicker11.jpg)
click to enlarge

jeri
November 17th, 2011, 07:27 PM
So the videos begin...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNX1KT4Ac5U

loserinc
November 18th, 2011, 12:38 AM
I have to say I am loving this show! I definitely love Fairy Tale land more than the modern timeline, but that's just me. Hopefully it lasts.

tmoore4261
November 18th, 2011, 10:52 AM
I like the show as well, it's very different I think it will be around for a while, Grimm on the other hand I don't like so much.

jeri
November 19th, 2011, 10:46 PM
So Mr. Gold does have a body guard, a very large body guard.
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/th_RC1211-18.jpg (http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/RC1211-18.jpg)

jeri
November 19th, 2011, 10:47 PM
And a very cool cane...
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/th_RC1011-18.jpg (http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/RC1011-18.jpg)

jeri
November 20th, 2011, 07:44 PM
This will have to be the giant from Jack and the Beanstock.
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/th_RCOUAT2-20.jpg (http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/RCOUAT2-20.jpg)

tomstone
November 21st, 2011, 08:11 PM
When is the next Episode going to be or did I miss it?

carmencatalina
November 21st, 2011, 08:39 PM
When is the next Episode going to be or did I miss it?

This coming Sunday (there was no episode this last Sunday). The title is "That Still Small Voice".

You can get all kinds of info at the abc website:
http://beta.abc.go.com/shows/once-upon-a-time

mi_guard
November 24th, 2011, 01:27 AM
Sneak peak on Episode 1.05 - That still small voice

this one made me jump from my seat :S

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTfBVulc2h0

and here there are three more:

http://www.spoilertv.com/2011/11/once-upon-time-episode-105-that-still_24.html

mi_guard
November 25th, 2011, 04:25 AM
Once Upon a Time - Upcoming Episode Titles (1.10-1.12)

Episode 1.10 - 7:15am
Episode 1.11 - The Fruit of the Poisonous Tree
Episode 1.12 - Skin Deep

Taken from: SpoilerTV http://www.spoilertv.com/2011/11/once-upon-time-upcoming-episode-titles.html#ixzz1eituviUZ

mi_guard
November 25th, 2011, 04:39 AM
about Sunday's episode:

Once Upon a Time
Tonight Henry tempts death when he hopes to travel to the fairytale world via a sinkhole he found. Elsewhere, Jiminy Cricket (!) attempts to find a new vocation.

AresLover452
November 25th, 2011, 10:19 PM
I am so loving this series!!! It is one of the best new shows to hit tv in a while!! lol!

jelgate
November 28th, 2011, 01:49 PM
Sorry for the late release of ratings but real life was keeping me busy. I hate that guy.

The new episode got a 3.4 HH 18-49 and 10.66 million viewers


http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/11/28/tv-ratings-sunday-once-upon-a-time-slips-11-to-series-lows-most-shows-down-as-nfl-dominates-sunday-night/111872/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Tvbythenumbers+%28TVbytheNumbers%29

I also found this press release (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/11/28/abcs-once-upon-a-time-returns-with-series-highs-in-teens-and-kids/)interesting for the demographics of Once Upon A Time. But remember press release heavily spin the data

tomstone
November 28th, 2011, 06:23 PM
about Sunday's episode:

Once Upon a Time
Tonight Henry tempts death when he hopes to travel to the fairytale world via a sinkhole he found. Elsewhere, Jiminy Cricket (!) attempts to find a new vocation.

That was a great Episode this Week. Cant wait for the next one.

Why the heck is the Glass couffin there? Would be cool if other Items from Story Land would appear too. Its like the more People of Storybrooke get back to their original path, the more changes.

carmencatalina
November 28th, 2011, 06:48 PM
Why the heck is the Glass couffin there? Would be cool if other Items from Story Land would appear too. Its like the more People of Storybrooke get back to their original path, the more changes.


So that is what the broken glass object was! I was tired when I watched and I kept thinking, I know I'm supposed to know what that is, what is it??

carmencatalina
November 28th, 2011, 06:53 PM
So, unless I've missed something, we have:

Episode 1:
3.9 HH 18-49 and 12.793 million viewers

Episode 2:
3.9 HH 18-49 demo with 11.64 million viewers

Episode 3:
3.7 HH18-49 demo and 11.38 million viewers

Episode 4:
3.8 HH 18-49 and 11.327 million viewers

Episode 5:
3.4 HH 18-49 and 10.66 million viewers


A slight drop, but maybe that is to be expected with a week off?

It is really weird for me to be all fannish about a show that is doing well in the ratings. Barely know what to do with myself!

jeri
November 28th, 2011, 07:17 PM
Here's a link to a good and funny review of last night's show.
http://io9.com/5863217/once-upon-a-time-uses-cg-crickets-and-lost-easter-eggs-to-tell-jiminy-crickets-f+ed-up-backstory/

jelgate
November 28th, 2011, 07:20 PM
So, unless I've missed something, we have:

Episode 1:
3.9 HH 18-49 and 12.793 million viewers

Episode 2:
3.9 HH 18-49 demo with 11.64 million viewers

Episode 3:
3.7 HH18-49 demo and 11.38 million viewers

Episode 4:
3.8 HH 18-49 and 11.327 million viewers

Episode 5:
3.4 HH 18-49 and 10.66 million viewers


A slight drop, but maybe that is to be expected with a week off?

It is really weird for me to be all fannish about a show that is doing well in the ratings. Barely know what to do with myself!

Holidays and it was a big night in football. Numbers tend to do bad in December for obvious reasons

tomstone
November 29th, 2011, 01:47 AM
So that is what the broken glass object was! I was tired when I watched and I kept thinking, I know I'm supposed to know what that is, what is it??

As always that was in the very last scene. Any Chance Jiminys Dog is from Fairytale World too? I kept thinking of him as Pongo. (101 Dalmatians)

TheRandomOne
November 29th, 2011, 04:45 AM
Since Mr. Gold no doubt remembers everything from the fairy tale world & now that we know there is a cave leading to the fairy tale world. I guess Mr. Gold has been going back & fourth between both worlds & that is how he has those items in his shop

tomstone
November 29th, 2011, 05:02 AM
Yeah, but the connection seems to be broken through the Course. So I dont think that even he can go there at the moment.
If he can maintain his Deals and memorys in the real World, maybe his belongings got transferred there too. I would guess he collected Gheppetos Parents after they got turned to puppets.

Speaking of Mr. Gold. Do you guys think Henry knows who he is?

TheRandomOne
November 29th, 2011, 05:09 AM
But it was his spell & magic that did the curse. Remember the Queen went to him for the spell. So if anyone can get past his own spell then surely he can ? & I doubt he would do anything like that for anyone without his own way around it. Knowing the type of character he is

tomstone
November 29th, 2011, 05:38 AM
But it was his spell & magic that did the curse. Remember the Queen went to him for the spell. So if anyone can get past his own spell then surely he can ? & I doubt he would do anything like that for anyone without his own way around it. Knowing the type of character he is

Yeah, but there is nobody there. I just dont know what he would gain from that.

carmencatalina
November 29th, 2011, 06:06 AM
As always that was in the very last scene. Any Chance Jiminys Dog is from Fairytale World too? I kept thinking of him as Pongo. (101 Dalmatians)

That's his name, Pongo (you hear Emma Swan call him that when he discovers the grate over the air shaft). A nod to 101 Dalmatians, definitely.

jelgate
November 29th, 2011, 06:38 AM
101 Dalmatians is a fairy tale?

TheRandomOne
November 29th, 2011, 06:42 AM
Yeah, but there is nobody there. I just dont know what he would gain from that.

He would gain bringing stuff from that world to the real world. Which he seems to be doing. The dolls in the shop, & we also saw the lamp from Aladdin in the newest episode.

carmencatalina
November 29th, 2011, 08:57 AM
101 Dalmatians is a fairy tale?

Nope, it is a really great children's book (and later a fairly nice animated movie and a rather dreadful live-action movie), but I get the feeling that they are just going with whatever Disney stuff they want. The mothership is Disney, after all.

Note: The book is "1001 Dalmatians" actually, I don't know why the number of dogs was scaled back when the original animated movie was made, but it was. A curious fact.

Platypus_Man
November 29th, 2011, 09:21 AM
Josh Dallas & I at MGM Bridge Studios during Once Upon a Time ep 1x12 day 5 shoot. He wasn't even working that day but came by to say hi.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6385759815/in/set-72157628150447953


http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6052/6385759815_b780964746_z.jpg

tomstone
November 29th, 2011, 01:03 PM
Nope, it is a really great children's book (and later a fairly nice animated movie and a rather dreadful live-action movie), but I get the feeling that they are just going with whatever Disney stuff they want. The mothership is Disney, after all.

Note: The book is "1001 Dalmatians" actually, I don't know why the number of dogs was scaled back when the original animated movie was made, but it was. A curious fact.

I didnt know that Disney was behind OUAT, though I kind of understand why they reduced the number of Dogs in their versions. Its just impossible to make a movie with that many animated Animals, besides that 101 sounds cachier. :)

Just my opinion, but the first live-action movie was pretty good and the follow ups sucked.

jelgate
November 29th, 2011, 02:13 PM
I didnt know that Disney was behind OUAT, though I kind of understand why they reduced the number of Dogs in their versions. Its just impossible to make a movie with that many animated Animals, besides that 101 sounds cachier. :)

Just my opinion, but the first live-action movie was pretty good and the follow ups sucked.ABC is onwed by Disney

AresLover452
November 29th, 2011, 04:57 PM
I loved SUNDAY'S Once Upon A Time. was it my imagination or was that Snow White's glass coffin at the bottom of that shaft? So can not wait to see what else is to come from this show!!

Calluna
November 29th, 2011, 05:00 PM
"That Still Small Voice" was a good ep, not great but I liked the backstory we got on Archie/Jiminy and The Mayor (Buffy) showing up as his father. And yay Tony Amendola, great to see you again. The various people turning into puppets reveals were creepy and well done. Snow/Charming are awesome together despite some extremely cheesy stuff. Robert Carlyle continues to be great as Rumpel but I am going to admit I'm going to get tired of every single character making a bad deal with him.

I hadn't seen the ratings. Considering the week off and Thanksgiving travel they are pretty good. miles better than any other new ABC show by far. But I hope they go back up next week and also improve in January.

tomstone
November 29th, 2011, 05:13 PM
I loved SUNDAY'S Once Upon A Time. was it my imagination or was that Snow White's glass coffin at the bottom of that shaft? So can not wait to see what else is to come from this show!!

Yes it was and thats the point of Spoiler Tags since there might be People reading this that are not that far in the Series.

Krisz
November 29th, 2011, 05:19 PM
Excerpt from an article I read in the Vancouver Sun this morning.

Fairy tales can come true.

It seems like a distant childhood memory now, but the night Once Upon a Time premiered, the sweet-tempered, stirring fable about a lonely boy, a fairy-tale princess and a dashing prince was thrown in against an NFL football game (Indianapolis-New Orleans) and the World Series in the U.S., where, by rights, it should have been overlooked, ignored and consigned to quick cancellation.

Instead, the filmed-in-Vancouver charmer pulled in 13 million viewers, including enough young adults in the advertiser-coveted 18-49 bracket to make Once Upon a Time the No. 1 drama debut of the fall on U.S. network TV. More than 1.7 million viewers tuned in across Canada, making it the strongest 7 p.m. season premiere on record in this country, according to a release by Bell Media-owned CTV.

More importantly, most of those viewers were charmed enough to return the following week -- and they've stayed ever since.

Viewers want to see whether Snow White and Prince Charming will be able to reverse the Evil Queen's curse and defy Rumpelstiltskin's prophecy that they'll be trapped forevermore in a terrible place, "where there are no happy endings."

Once Upon a Time may yet live to see a happy ending. It has disproved the notion that network TV is all about reality programs, prime time game shows and police procedurals, and it has bolstered Vancouver's reputation as a production centre that can produce quality as well as quantity.



Read more: http://www.canada.com/entertainment/Your+fall+season/5778807/story.html#ixzz1f9PGdsmh


I have to say this show is growing on me now, especially after this weeks episode. I like the way the curse is slowly being unraveled. Cleverly done with how bits of the fairy tale world are turning up around 'Storybrooke'. That poor couple turned into those really creepy dolls, :eek:, and it did look like the broken bits of Snow White's coffin at the bottom of that mine shaft.

AresLover452
November 29th, 2011, 05:22 PM
Yes it was and thats the point of Spoiler Tags since there might be People reading this that are not that far in the Series.

I wasn't sure that it was actually what i saw....

Lythisrose
November 29th, 2011, 07:29 PM
I haven't gotten into a show since SGA was cancelled, but this one is really pulling me in. Terrific so far! :)
(also liking Grimm)

jeri
November 29th, 2011, 09:24 PM
Looks like we will get to see more of Tony Amendola by the story line set up for him last episode. Great, always liked him.:)
Just a footnote, my yoga instructor asked today if people where watching this show, most in the class are including two men. Of a class of about 25, only 3 are under 30. She also asked who knew the real name of Darth Vader, I was the only one who knew! So just me and her are the sci-fi geeks, I guess.:D

fems
November 30th, 2011, 02:10 AM
After seeing this thread, I checked out the show and I really like it! One thing that bothers me though is that the Evil Queen simply seems to want her own happy ending... she's evil, evil people aren't supposed to want to be happy!


I had to laugh when I finally realized who Ruby was, I didn't realize it until the second time we saw her but I guess the color of her clothes should have been a dead give away.

I'm surprised though that Henry and Emma haven't figured out yet who Gold is, since they now know what he does in reality too. I wonder who Dr. Whale is supposed to be, though, since he's obviously in cahoots with Regina.

Like the others I found it odd that Kathryn just happened to show up in time and it would be interesting to find out how Regina got her to play along...

Henry mentioned that no one but Emma can leave the town or bad things will happen, but when she tried to leave in the beginning the wolf stopped her too! And how did he get out unharmed or is it because he's not from the fairy tale world either? I also wonder why Rumpelstiltskin brought Henry back to Storybrook when Regina wanted a child because he seems to be evil yet he must have known there'd be a good chance Emma would return? Or maybe he just likes watching the power struggle.

Another question that popped into my head; if no one was aging until Emma showed up then how did Henry grow up? Again perhaps it's because he's not supposed to be there, but wouldn't other people find that strange? Does this mean Ashley/Cinderella was pregnant for 28 years? If so, she seemed more pregnant now than when she locked up Rumpelstiltskin... and how is it she remembered the deal she made with Gold? Or did they make another one? If so, when did they do it if she's been pregnant for 28 years?

Glad someone pointed out that the glass Regina picked up was part of the glass coffin hidden deep in the mines, because I didn't get a good look at it and was wondering what it was supposed to be... :o

tomstone
November 30th, 2011, 03:20 AM
After seeing this thread, I checked out the show and I really like it! One thing that bothers me though is that the Evil Queen simply seems to want her own happy ending... she's evil, evil people aren't supposed to want to be happy!


I had to laugh when I finally realized who Ruby was, I didn't realize it until the second time we saw her but I guess the color of her clothes should have been a dead give away.

I'm surprised though that Henry and Emma haven't figured out yet who Gold is, since they now know what he does in reality too. I wonder who Dr. Whale is supposed to be, though, since he's obviously in cahoots with Regina.

Like the others I found it odd that Kathryn just happened to show up in time and it would be interesting to find out how Regina got her to play along...

Henry mentioned that no one but Emma can leave the town or bad things will happen, but when she tried to leave in the beginning the wolf stopped her too! And how did he get out unharmed or is it because he's not from the fairy tale world either? I also wonder why Rumpelstiltskin brought Henry back to Storybrook when Regina wanted a child because he seems to be evil yet he must have known there'd be a good chance Emma would return? Or maybe he just likes watching the power struggle.

Another question that popped into my head; if no one was aging until Emma showed up then how did Henry grow up? Again perhaps it's because he's not supposed to be there, but wouldn't other people find that strange? Does this mean Ashley/Cinderella was pregnant for 28 years? If so, she seemed more pregnant now than when she locked up Rumpelstiltskin... and how is it she remembered the deal she made with Gold? Or did they make another one? If so, when did they do it if she's been pregnant for 28 years?

Glad someone pointed out that the glass Regina picked up was part of the glass coffin hidden deep in the mines, because I didn't get a good look at it and was wondering what it was supposed to be... :o

They try to make her more sympathetic. It doesnt work for me either, but it still makes me feel sorry for her.

I will try to answer some of your Questions without spoiling the Episodes you havent watched so far.

The Dr. is Jiminy Cricket and he is just easily intimmidated by Regina. She has basically the whole Town in her grip.

I think it is as you said with the thing about leaving the Town. Henry could leave because he didnt really belong. Emma on the other Hand does belong there, she was just saved by the Tree and now is trapped like the others. The Town reacted when she came back, so it will probably not let her go.

I think Rumpel is simply enjoying the Show. 28 Years in a Town that doesnt change has to be boring, so he set up this Situation to get the Show rolling. The common guess is that he remembers everything, eventhough it hasnt been said so far. Also it looks like his Deals go for both Worlds since its his Magic. The History of the Deals get changed, but the stakes are still the same.

Henry explained that the whole Town was basically in a haze and didnt take anything for strange. They have a faked History that they barely remember. They just went about their Day oblivious to the rest of the World. Henry is half "Human" if you will since his Dad is from the real World, so the Curse doesnt apply to him like it does to the others.

fems
November 30th, 2011, 03:27 AM
I've seen all the eps so far, but I really meant

the other Doctor, Dr. Walsh. The one who went on a date with Snow, was eyeing Red and treated Charming.

I understand the haze thing, but I just find it odd that no one noticed Henry growing up with no one else aging and Ashley being forever pregnant! :P

To me it's obvious Rumpelstiltskin remembers everything and it seems like Regina is starting to realize it too. The curse was his after all and why would he ask her for something in return (a good life and her granting all his requests if says "please") if he wouldn't remember any of it?

I'm looking forward to seeing more stories and reveals of fairy tale characters, but I have to admit that there were times when I had to look up the fairy tale because I didn't remember it! :o Of course the stories and characters being in English didn't help in that department, but I'm ashamed to admit I didn't even remember Rumpelstiltskin (the tale yes, the character not really)... :o

Annkoo
November 30th, 2011, 09:44 AM
After seeing this thread, I checked out the show and I really like it! One thing that bothers me though is that the Evil Queen simply seems to want her own happy ending... she's evil, evil people aren't supposed to want to be happy!


I had to laugh when I finally realized who Ruby was, I didn't realize it until the second time we saw her but I guess the color of her clothes should have been a dead give away.

I'm surprised though that Henry and Emma haven't figured out yet who Gold is, since they now know what he does in reality too. I wonder who Dr. Whale is supposed to be, though, since he's obviously in cahoots with Regina.

Like the others I found it odd that Kathryn just happened to show up in time and it would be interesting to find out how Regina got her to play along...

Henry mentioned that no one but Emma can leave the town or bad things will happen, but when she tried to leave in the beginning the wolf stopped her too! And how did he get out unharmed or is it because he's not from the fairy tale world either? I also wonder why Rumpelstiltskin brought Henry back to Storybrook when Regina wanted a child because he seems to be evil yet he must have known there'd be a good chance Emma would return? Or maybe he just likes watching the power struggle.

Another question that popped into my head; if no one was aging until Emma showed up then how did Henry grow up? Again perhaps it's because he's not supposed to be there, but wouldn't other people find that strange? Does this mean Ashley/Cinderella was pregnant for 28 years? If so, she seemed more pregnant now than when she locked up Rumpelstiltskin... and how is it she remembered the deal she made with Gold? Or did they make another one? If so, when did they do it if she's been pregnant for 28 years?

Glad someone pointed out that the glass Regina picked up was part of the glass coffin hidden deep in the mines, because I didn't get a good look at it and was wondering what it was supposed to be... :o

I think evil peole are evil just becouse they are unhappy.

They have their memorys, but they are changed somehow. So, I don't belive that Cinderella had to make another deal. She remembers the first deal differently that it was. I wonder if Rumpelstiltskin remembers who is he. And he was familliar with Emma's name.

TheRandomOne
November 30th, 2011, 12:21 PM
I think evil peole are evil just becouse they are unhappy.

They have their memorys, but they are changed somehow. So, I don't belive that Cinderella had to make another deal. She remembers the first deal differently that it was. I wonder if Rumpelstiltskin remembers who is he. And he was familliar with Emma's name.

When Mr. Gold had that confrontation with Regina & we found out that Mr. Gold is that one that got her Henry I think he knows damn well what is going on & that Henry is the son of Snow Whites daughter & who Emma is

AresLover452
November 30th, 2011, 12:44 PM
I would really like to find out what the heck the Sheriff is. For some reason i am getting a Wolf Vibe from him.... but IDK.... I can't wait to see what his deal is!

fems
November 30th, 2011, 12:55 PM
I would really like to find out what the heck the Sheriff is. For some reason i am getting a Wolf Vibe from him.... but IDK.... I can't wait to see what his deal is!


I thought the wolf was just the counterpart of the little wolf hanging on Red/Ruby's rear-view mirror...

AresLover452
November 30th, 2011, 01:34 PM
I thought the wolf was just the counterpart of the little wolf hanging on Red/Ruby's rear-view mirror...

IDK.... course the sheriff could also be the Evil Queens huntsman too.... i really wanna know! lmao! I hope we find out soon

carmencatalina
November 30th, 2011, 03:15 PM
IDK.... course the sheriff could also be the Evil Queens huntsman too.... i really wanna know! lmao! I hope we find out soon

I'm certain at this point that the sheriff is the huntsman . . . we will see!

jelgate
November 30th, 2011, 03:47 PM
I'm certain at this point that the sheriff is the huntsman . . . we will see!

I was certain first. I was thinking the same thing since the same relationships in fairy world seem to exist in the real world.

And now for a geekout. In future weeks I will update except reruns. Reruns are largely useless.

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/6450/onceuponatimeb.jpg

MasySyma
November 30th, 2011, 04:13 PM
I'm still on the fence with this series. I like the ft world, but the modern characters are not well developed. Cinderellastiltskin did nothing for me, and the kid annoys me. That said, I enjoyed the episode about the cricket/therapist.

Annkoo
December 1st, 2011, 12:20 AM
I'm still on the fence with this series. I like the ft world, but the modern characters are not well developed. Cinderellastiltskin did nothing for me, and the kid annoys me. That said, I enjoyed the episode about the cricket/therapist.


The kid isn't bad, Emma is annoying for me. Instead, do something she is only standing and watching, asking the same stupid questions all the time.

tomstone
December 1st, 2011, 08:44 AM
The kid isn't bad, Emma is annoying for me. Instead, do something she is only standing and watching, asking the same stupid questions all the time.

She doesnt believe him eventhough she knows he believes what he says. So its not that surprising, I wonder what the Tipping point will be for her and she starts to believe in the Course.

Annkoo
December 1st, 2011, 09:18 AM
She doesnt believe him eventhough she knows he believes what he says. So its not that surprising, I wonder what the Tipping point will be for her and she starts to believe in the Course.

I meant rather, that Emma is arguing with Regina in this sensless way. She is also very clumsy in some situations. Henry was trapped in the old mine, and she was just walking around, asking "what you want me to do?", "what will we do now?" with this dramatic beyond. She just didn't convinced me. But I am far from saying that I did not like it at all. Emma is just not realistic enough or not as much as she could be. Maybe it is her acting in some scenes, or the screenplay of her character is so wobbly. Anyway, I'm waiting for the next episode :D. (I can only watch it on internet, and in my country there is a delay, so i must wait to tuesday :( )

tomstone
December 1st, 2011, 10:54 AM
I meant rather, that Emma is arguing with Regina in this sensless way. She is also very clumsy in some situations. Henry was trapped in the old mine, and she was just walking around, asking "what you want me to do?", "what will we do now?" with this dramatic beyond. She just didn't convinced me. But I am far from saying that I did not like it at all. Emma is just not realistic enough or not as much as she could be. Maybe it is her acting in some scenes, or the screenplay of her character is so wobbly. Anyway, I'm waiting for the next episode :D. (I can only watch it on internet, and in my country there is a delay, so i must wait to tuesday :( )

Well, first and foremost she tried to do her Job and leave her feelings aside and therfore asked the Mayor first. She doesnt want to get into more Trouble with Regina and you could see Emma being hurt when she was happy saving Henry and the Mayor ordering her to do her Job and go do something else. In my opinion she just wasnt able to work as good as she could have. Regina would have fought her on any order she gives, she doesnt trust Emma.

jeri
December 1st, 2011, 08:49 PM
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Artwork/th_Walk2W.jpg (http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Artwork/Walk2W.jpg)
click to enlarge

mi_guard
December 2nd, 2011, 12:00 AM
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Artwork/th_Walk2W.jpg (http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Artwork/Walk2W.jpg)
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great pic :D

TheRandomOne
December 2nd, 2011, 04:08 AM
Well, first and foremost she tried to do her Job and leave her feelings aside and therfore asked the Mayor first. She doesnt want to get into more Trouble with Regina and you could see Emma being hurt when she was happy saving Henry and the Mayor ordering her to do her Job and go do something else. In my opinion she just wasnt able to work as good as she could have. Regina would have fought her on any order she gives, she doesnt trust Emma.

The only reason with why she does not trust Emma is due to the fact that it is a pretty safe bet that she knows who Emma is & what she is going to do

AresLover452
December 3rd, 2011, 08:56 PM
Love the pic Jeri!!

jeri
December 4th, 2011, 07:28 AM
Love the pic Jeri!!

Thanks! Looking forward to more Rumpy/Gold so we can play with the images!:D Well, generally looking forward to more Carlyle any way, and how this story is starting to get real complicated. Love that kind of thing.

Artha O'neill
December 4th, 2011, 09:03 AM
Hey Lads, I found brilliant interview by one Bill Willingham on "Fables" vs "Once Upon A Time" (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=35737)

Its a great read for anyone interested in becoming a writer or Tv Production.

jeri
December 4th, 2011, 01:27 PM
Hey Lads, I found brilliant interview by one Bill Willingham on "Fables" vs "Once Upon A Time" (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=35737)

Its a great read for anyone interested in becoming a writer or Tv Production.
Thanks for the link. Good article. It's true, "there's nothing new under the sun". I haven't read Fables, but may sometime.

Shpinxinator
December 4th, 2011, 10:33 PM
I've watched every episode so far and I think I've finally decided what my opinion is. If you look past the horrible CG and Green screen and clunky dialog it all seems...rather odd. Firstly, I'm kind of irked that ABC (and by extention Disney) decided to use the DISNEY names for the characters, I.E. the cricket being named Jiminy and the dwarf who seemed to be Snowwhite's midwife being named Doc (niether had names in ther respective original stories), also in tonight's episode Mccutcheon scotch-whiskey from Lost has a cameo, in a very "Hey kid's remember this?!" kind of way, all this just gives me the feeling that the Disney Company is being rather well...masterbatory(?) with the whole thing., I kind of half expect the hospital in the town to be called Sacred Heart

I won't get into plot lines but I'm also a little annoyed that EVERY episode has to have the "How did THIS person make a deal with Rumpelstiltskin?" scene. Which is fine if he was supposed to be the primary antagonist, which I'm fairly sure is supposed to be the role of the Evil Queen.

That's all, hope I didn't upset anyone.

p.s. Do all the costumes have to look like they came from the worst community theater in the world? I mean, I know it's fantasy but, do they have to look that bad?

fems
December 5th, 2011, 06:03 AM
1x06

So Snow actually married Shepherd turned Prince Charming? And 'David' is Shepherd, so Kathryn finally married Charming in this life.

Gold didn't seem surprised David started remembering once he saw the windmill... it makes me wonder if this means David or Kathryn made a deal with Gold too? Gold continues to drop hints that he remembers everything. Would Regina have known that David would turn to Gold and perhaps see the windmill and remember when she gave him the wrong directions?

AresLover452
December 5th, 2011, 11:14 AM
Thanks! Looking forward to more Rumpy/Gold so we can play with the images!:D Well, generally looking forward to more Carlyle any way, and how this story is starting to get real complicated. Love that kind of thing.

I want more Rumpelstiltskin!! love that creepy man!! he is so awesome and into EVERYTHING! lmao!

I am SO getting to the point where I am REALLY HATING Madam Mayor Regina!!! Someone really needs to put her in her place!! and last nights latest installment!! O_O!!! LOVED IT!!

jelgate
December 5th, 2011, 01:19 PM
Once again my real life has delayed time to post ratings. Anyone else hate that guy or just me?

A 3.1 18-49 HH and 9.611 million viewers

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/12/05/tv-ratings-sunday-simpsons-family-guy-get-a-big-boost-once-upon-a-time-pan-am-hit-lows-as-of-course-sunday-night-football-wins/112606/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Tvbythenumbers+%28TVbytheNumbers%29

tomstone
December 5th, 2011, 02:31 PM
I've watched every episode so far and I think I've finally decided what my opinion is. If you look past the horrible CG and Green screen and clunky dialog it all seems...rather odd. Firstly, I'm kind of irked that ABC (and by extention Disney) decided to use the DISNEY names for the characters, I.E. the cricket being named Jiminy and the dwarf who seemed to be Snowwhite's midwife being named Doc (niether had names in ther respective original stories), also in tonight's episode Mccutcheon scotch-whiskey from Lost has a cameo, in a very "Hey kid's remember this?!" kind of way, all this just gives me the feeling that the Disney Company is being rather well...masterbatory(?) with the whole thing., I kind of half expect the hospital in the town to be called Sacred Heart

I won't get into plot lines but I'm also a little annoyed that EVERY episode has to have the "How did THIS person make a deal with Rumpelstiltskin?" scene. Which is fine if he was supposed to be the primary antagonist, which I'm fairly sure is supposed to be the role of the Evil Queen.

That's all, hope I didn't upset anyone.

p.s. Do all the costumes have to look like they came from the worst community theater in the world? I mean, I know it's fantasy but, do they have to look that bad?

Well, as it looks at the moment we have 3 sides in this show. The Hero Emma, the Anti-Hero Regina and the real villian which would be Gold. The Queen may have activated the course, but she doesnt want more than her Happy End really, while Rumpel is just messing with everybody and knows very well.

I actually think the Costumes are quite good. They fit with the rest of the show. My Favorioute is Rumples outfit, he just looks so badass.

Shpinxinator
December 5th, 2011, 02:59 PM
Well, as it looks at the moment we have 3 sides in this show. The Hero Emma, the Anti-Hero Regina and the real villian which would be Gold. The Queen may have activated the course, but she doesnt want more than her Happy End really, while Rumpel is just messing with everybody and knows very well.

I actually think the Costumes are quite good. They fit with the rest of the show. My Favorioute is Rumples outfit, he just looks so badass.

As to the three stories being told I can understand that, the only problem is they haven't done much to show us that that is the case, the episodes so far have been mainly flash backs, which again would be perfectly fine, except for that fact that it all just seems to focus on their deal with Rumple, as if that's all that matters and all the character development and pathos takes a back seat so the main reason for the flash back, which is talking to Rumple. I'm not trying to hate on the show, I just am giving an opinion.

As for the costumes... really my main gripe is with the gowns, as an Art History major and someone whoes done ALOT of theater (no I'm not calling myself an expert just basing my opinion on my experience) there's nothing tasteful or really partularly imaginiative about it, yes Rumple looks badass but really, he's wearing leather, not bad in itself but it's a little cliche, but the gowns look like only the least amount of thought possible went into them "she's a princess so give her big shoulders! And gloo feathers all over it!" and no care was given in the making of the costumes either, they look like they were made with cheap materials by students.

I want to make it perfectly clear that nothing I've said would even be an issue if it was any channel other than ABC which has the backing of the Disney company. Everything in the show is "just ok" which is the real let down, it should be spectacular and breath taking. But instead there's green screen back grounds that look like they took a 2D picture of something (a picture with low resolution) and pasted it behind the actors, I didn't accept it when it was that bad in Indiana Jones 4 and I won't accept it here becuase there's NO reason for it to be that bad, everyone involved can do much MUCH better

fems
December 5th, 2011, 03:08 PM
As to the three stories being told I can understand that, the only problem is they haven't done much to show us that that is the case, the episodes so far have been mainly flash backs, which again would be perfectly fine, except for that fact that it all just seems to focus on their deal with Rumple, as if that's all that matters and all the character development and pathos takes a back seat so the main reason for the flash back, which is talking to Rumple. I'm not trying to hate on the show, I just am giving an opinion.


I think you're missing the point that the only reason all these characters know each other or have interacted with one another is because of Rumpelstiltskin and his deals.

Shpinxinator
December 5th, 2011, 03:28 PM
I think you're missing the point that the only reason all these characters know each other or have interacted with one another is because of Rumpelstiltskin and his deals.

I'm not missing that point, but the show hasn't given any indication that that's the case, I'm not wanting to be spoon fed, but there's been no hint, no whisper, no indication that he has an over arching plan. The only acception to that I can think of is in the first episode when he told the Queen that she would owe him a favor in the "real" world and she said they wouldn't know each other and he said something to the effect of it not mattering to her then, other than that, theres been no hint that there is supposed to be some secret mystery plot.

Really THAT whole point is me picking nits, which I'm perfectly willing to admit. My main grape is with the production not the plot

gotthammer
December 5th, 2011, 03:34 PM
That was a great episode. :D

re: costumes looking cliche
Couldn't that be intentional? Just to get immediate association between looks and role? (witch in black, mayor in suit, etc.)

re: CG/visuals
While I do notice, I guess I've grown more 'forgiving'. I could be picky, I suppose, but then I'd probably end up not watching anything or playing any game. :lol:
I do agree that it could be better, but, IMHO, 'it works' (heck, compared to some other stuff I've watched, quite good)...better that than nothing. *points at SG franchise and other, probably, expensive sci-fi stuff*

The dragon fight was kinda amusing: they actually showed corpses (look bro, cooked people!), and it kinda reminded me of recent bouts against dragons in Skyrim. :D
(nope, can't kill it while flying <melee build>...now it's on the ground, swing! swing! swing! :D )

Shpinxinator
December 5th, 2011, 03:44 PM
That was a great episode. :D

re: costumes looking cliche
Couldn't that be intentional? Just to get immediate association between looks and role? (witch in black, mayor in suit, etc.)

re: CG/visuals
While I do notice, I guess I've grown more 'forgiving'. I could be picky, I suppose, but then I'd probably end up not watching anything or playing any game. :lol:
I do agree that it could be better, but, IMHO, 'it works' (heck, compared to some other stuff I've watched, quite good)...better that than nothing. *points at SG franchise and other, probably, expensive sci-fi stuff*

The dragon fight was kinda amusing: they actually showed corpses (look bro, cooked people!), and it kinda reminded me of recent bouts against dragons in Skyrim. :D
(nope, can't kill it while flying <melee build>...now it's on the ground, swing! swing! swing! :D )

I guess it could be intentional but, cliche is one thing, cheap ad low quality looking is another.

The poor CG is I guess better than nothing, but again, I would be MUCH more forgiving if it was back by anything other than Disney, you'd think if they were going to make a show based off the tales that they were made famous by, they would put a little more care into it, that's what makes me less forgiving, that fact that there's NO reason for it to look that bad, the Stargate franchize didn't have the funding or backing of a titan like Disney.

There was one moment in the Dragon fight that really made me laugh, Prince 2.0 needs a weapon, so he goes to the nears recently burnt corpse to pick up the metal sword, and immediately drops it cause it's hot, now if they had it so he picked it up and was in pain from the heat but used it anyway that would have been badass and awesome, but no, he drops it and runs.

tomstone
December 5th, 2011, 03:45 PM
The poor CG is I guess better than nothing, but again, I would be MUCH more forgiving if it was back by anything other than Disney, you'd think if they were going to make a show based off the tales that they were made famous by, they would put a little more care into it, that's what makes me less forgiving, that fact that there's NO reason for it to look that bad, the Stargate franchize didn't have the funding or backing of a titan like Disney.

They always have to balance Story and Budget, so things like cheap CGI does happen everywhere when they concentrate on something else and as always in a first Season they had to Build the Sets and everything too. Just saying that I have hopes that the Effects will get better.

Also the new "In Time" Movie had poor CGI scenes as well, so it cant be that bad.

Disney also seems a bit careless with Live Action stuff in general, so Once Upon a Time may have to proof its worth yet.

Shpinxinator
December 5th, 2011, 03:51 PM
They always have to balance Story and Budget, so things like cheap CGI does happen everywhere when they concentrate on something else and as always in a first Season they had to Build the Sets and everything too. Just saying that I have hopes that the Effects will get better.

Also the new "In Time" Movie had poor CGI scenes as well, so it cant be that bad.

Disney also seems a bit careless with Live Action stuff in general, so Once Upon a Time may have to proof its worth yet.

Completely agree, I guess I was just hoping and expecting more from disney.

As for In Time...don't get me started on that dollar store Logan's Run ripoff

jeri
December 5th, 2011, 07:19 PM
Once again my real life has delayed time to post ratings. Anyone else hate that guy or just me?

A 3.1 18-49 HH and 9.611 million viewers

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/12/05/tv-ratings-sunday-simpsons-family-guy-get-a-big-boost-once-upon-a-time-pan-am-hit-lows-as-of-course-sunday-night-football-wins/112606/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Tvbythenumbers+%28TVbytheNumbers%29
You're not alone there, that RL chases me around in circles.:sam43:

jeri
December 5th, 2011, 07:49 PM
They always have to balance Story and Budget, so things like cheap CGI does happen everywhere when they concentrate on something else and as always in a first Season they had to Build the Sets and everything too. Just saying that I have hopes that the Effects will get better.
Yes, and remember they originally only ordered 12 + the pilot, so we are still seeing the strict budget of a new show in challenging economic times. Hopefully things will improve if the show continues to be popular enough to make money. I think now they are spending the money on a good cast, hoping the investment pays off.

carmencatalina
December 6th, 2011, 08:57 AM
I just want to make the point that, while Disney is the mothership and owns ABC, the show isn't being made by Disney Studios, it is being made by ABC, with an ABC TV show budget, not a Disney movie budget.

I have no idea what the budget is for this show, but I'm willing to bet, given ABC's not terribly stellar performance over the last few years, that it isn't a big one.

tomstone
December 6th, 2011, 10:32 AM
As for the costumes... really my main gripe is with the gowns, as an Art History major and someone whoes done ALOT of theater (no I'm not calling myself an expert just basing my opinion on my experience) there's nothing tasteful or really partularly imaginiative about it, yes Rumple looks badass but really, he's wearing leather, not bad in itself but it's a little cliche, but the gowns look like only the least amount of thought possible went into them "she's a princess so give her big shoulders! And gloo feathers all over it!" and no care was given in the making of the costumes either, they look like they were made with cheap materials by students.

Uhm, just noticed, its Disney so what do you expect from a bunch of Birds and Mice? :P

jelgate
December 6th, 2011, 12:21 PM
I just want to make the point that, while Disney is the mothership and owns ABC, the show isn't being made by Disney Studios, it is being made by ABC, with an ABC TV show budget, not a Disney movie budget.

I have no idea what the budget is for this show, but I'm willing to bet, given ABC's not terribly stellar performance over the last few years, that it isn't a big one.
Actually ABC doesn't do that bad. Its the middle station only a little behind FOX. CBS outshines them all though. As for the Disney/ABC thing its a gray area. Depends on how technical you want to get. More importantly when will Henry stop annoying me?

Steff
December 6th, 2011, 03:05 PM
I want more Rumpelstiltskin!! love that creepy man!! he is so awesome and into EVERYTHING! lmao!

I am SO getting to the point where I am REALLY HATING Madam Mayor Regina!!! Someone really needs to put her in her place!! and last nights latest installment!! O_O!!! LOVED IT!!

I get evilly excited every time I see his green face. Amazing character.

The last episode was fun. Can't wait till the next one.

MasySyma
December 6th, 2011, 03:44 PM
More importantly when will Henry stop annoying me?

Oh good, I'm not the only one. He is insufferable.

tomstone
December 6th, 2011, 04:19 PM
Oh good, I'm not the only one. He is insufferable.

That makes us three. I actually think he is cute in a very annoying way, so I have faith that his Character may still grow on me once he got some development beyond "Fairytales are real".

MasySyma
December 7th, 2011, 03:46 AM
Just watched the most recent episode. Perhaps this show is not meant for me. The whole soap opera element does not work for me.

I also find the fairy tale world interesting, but the modern world, not so much. That and twins?! Really?

Krisz
December 7th, 2011, 08:58 PM
That makes us three. I actually think he is cute in a very annoying way, so I have faith that his Character may still grow on me once he got some development beyond "Fairytales are real".

Me four!!! Although I have to agree with your comments about him. He, along with the rest of the cast, with the exception of Carlyle's gleeful portrayal of Rumpestiltskin have a long way to go to make me care even a little about them.

That whole scene, hunting the dragon at his cave, I couldn't stop laughing, all I could think of was this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg)

As for the CGI and costumes I think it's done on purpose, to look like the story book illustrations of years gone by. They do remind me of the pictures in fairy tale books I had as a child. Many things in the fairy tale world are filmed in crisp focus and bright colours to emphasise the happy lives that have been lost to the curse,whilst the 'real life' of 'Storybrooke' makes use of the brooding bluish Vancouver light to emphasize that oppressive trapped feel of the town. I wonder if the sun starts to come out more as the curse weakens.

majorsal
December 7th, 2011, 09:14 PM
i wonder how this series will end? will all the ppl figure out their fairy tale lives and what, return to that world?

carmencatalina
December 8th, 2011, 10:12 AM
i wonder how this series will end? will all the ppl figure out their fairy tale lives and what, return to that world?

You know, I have no idea. I mean, I can come up with half a dozen different scenarios for an ending, and really, they could go with any of them and I'm sure make it work.

I sort of love that I can't see the end-game yet. I sooooo hope we eventually get it (my heart has been broken with premature cancellations enough times!).

tomstone
December 8th, 2011, 10:47 AM
You know, I have no idea. I mean, I can come up with half a dozen different scenarios for an ending, and really, they could go with any of them and I'm sure make it work.

I sort of love that I can't see the end-game yet. I sooooo hope we eventually get it (my heart has been broken with premature cancellations enough times!).

What I really would love to see is both Worlds being connected after the Curse is broken. At least Henry belongs more to the real world as he does to Fairy Tale World.

AresLover452
December 8th, 2011, 12:37 PM
I get evilly excited every time I see his green face. Amazing character.

The last episode was fun. Can't wait till the next one.

Totally LOVE RUmplestiltskin.... wouldn't make a deal with him.... but still love his character! lol!

i wan the next eppy too! lmao!

tomstone
December 11th, 2011, 04:49 PM
Ha, I love it, I knew it! Huntsman!

I liked this weeks Episode most.

jelgate
December 11th, 2011, 05:04 PM
Ha, I love it, I knew it! Huntsman!

I liked this weeks Episode most.
tags :(

tomstone
December 11th, 2011, 05:37 PM
tags :(

Sorry. I thought that wouldnt be that big a deal. Just tagged it. So delete it from your response so it wont happen again please.

To tonights Episode:
At the beginning I was thinking that I might just start to care for Regina, not anymore. That Egomaniacal Witch remembers it all! I have the strong wish to see her dead now. Damn, I should have known that its to good to be true that she didnt know. I just hope Emma will understand soon that Henry is telling the truth.

jeri
December 11th, 2011, 10:09 PM
Wow, she is so bad! Regina does remember everything and has a nasty swing too! Poor Graham, no one leaves her!
And I want to know what Mr. Gold is digging around in the forest for? Maybe burying some magic potion, for 3 days, during a full moon, at the base of a special tree, etc., etc. Seems like he's up tp something strange there.

tomstone
December 11th, 2011, 10:48 PM
Wow, she is so bad! Regina does remember everything and has a nasty swing too! Poor Graham, no one leaves her!
And I want to know what Mr. Gold is digging around in the forest for? Maybe burying some magic potion, for 3 days, during a full moon, at the base of a special tree, etc., etc. Seems like he's up tp something strange there.

Well, he certainly has a habit of appearing at the weirdest times and he certainly enjoyed himself again. I think that was just a lame excuse to have this conversation with him. Though I agree, I am starting to think he is not just enjoying the Show, he is up to something.

On another note, now that we know for sure the Sheriff was the Huntsman, what was it that Snow White did to the EQ? She basically ruined her Happy End all on her own. So what was so special to her to cause her go into Self-Destruct? It cant be that Snow White was prettier than her, at this point that would be plain stupid. I really hope they have something that makes more sense up their sleeves.

TheRandomOne
December 11th, 2011, 11:14 PM
Wow, she is so bad! Regina does remember everything and has a nasty swing too! Poor Graham, no one leaves her!
And I want to know what Mr. Gold is digging around in the forest for? Maybe burying some magic potion, for 3 days, during a full moon, at the base of a special tree, etc., etc. Seems like he's up tp something strange there.

We do know that there is a cave that leads to an entirely different world. So maybe he is looking for an entrance to that ?

Skydiver
December 12th, 2011, 03:28 AM
I'm enjoying it. a to the CGI, every show learns how to do it better. Sanctuary has gotten better over the years but in season 1 there were some truly horrible CG scenes.

I do think, however, that this is a show with a finite life span. Viewers may be intrigued,but if it takes 4 years for the curse to be broken....well won't take four years cause people will get bored and turn away. I honestly see this lasting a season or two, not much more than that. maybe three if season 1 is breaking the curse, season 2 defeating rumple, season 3 defeating the queen/choosing which world to live in, then it's over. try to turn this into LOST and you end up with a meandering,, plodding and boring show that'll die a pathetic little death.

carmencatalina
December 12th, 2011, 06:27 AM
Loved last night's episode!
However:
So sad our handsome huntsman is dead!

jelgate
December 12th, 2011, 08:52 AM
Ratings time.
The new episode scored a 2.9 18-49 HH and 8.91 million viewers.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/12/12/tv-ratings-sunday-once-upon-a-time-continues-to-fall-fox-animations-down-scrambled-cbs/113388/

I'm getting Flash Forward vibes from a few years ago:S

jeri
December 12th, 2011, 09:04 AM
Ratings time.
The new episode scored a 2.9 18-49 HH and 8.91 million viewers.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/12/12/tv-ratings-sunday-once-upon-a-time-continues-to-fall-fox-animations-down-scrambled-cbs/113388/

I'm getting Flash Forward vibes from a few years ago:S
I fear as the story gets more involved, we will see the numbers drop. Let's face it most viewers don't have the attention span to remember what's going on, so they'll change the channel easily.

jelgate
December 12th, 2011, 09:07 AM
I fear as the story gets more involved, we will see the numbers drop. Let's face it most viewers don't have the attention span to remember what's going on, so they'll change the channel easily.

They drop below 2.0 its Cancelled Town

tomstone
December 12th, 2011, 01:03 PM
I fear as the story gets more involved, we will see the numbers drop. Let's face it most viewers don't have the attention span to remember what's going on, so they'll change the channel easily.

You are right, but i guess the dropping in the ratings has more something to do that its near Christmas and also that there was a Football match that night. I guess that would be a good reason for People to be otherwise occupied.

I know they play Football every weekend, but The Amazing Race had to be aired later than planned, so I imagine there was something special about that match.

We should start making a Poll on which Series People think will not make it to their 2nd Season. Contenders being Terra Nova, OUAT and Grimm.


We do know that there is a cave that leads to an entirely different world. So maybe he is looking for an entrance to that ?

Just noticed, Mr. Gold shouldnt be able to Dig a hole at all because of his Leg. Though Rumpel on the other Hand seems completly fit. Is there something we havent been told?

AresLover452
December 12th, 2011, 02:08 PM
OMG!!! I am really hating THE QUEEN/REGINA!!! When will she die!!??!!! Grrrrr.... woman is irritating!!!

Browncoat1984
December 12th, 2011, 02:21 PM
I think its likely that Grimm will be canceled OUAT and Terra Nova will be renewed, Terra Nova probably for a smaller budget than season 1 had. I wouldn't really miss Terra Nova, though it IS starting to get interesting, but I think I would OUAT as I'm really enjoying it more than I thought I would.

They're gonna have to learn to start renewing stuff despite ratings, because if they don't then even LESS people will watch because they will be tired of shows getting canceled. The past three or four years that's all its been on just about every network except for a few - new show, *canceled* 1 or 2 years later, rinse repeat. Networks can't expect us, the viewers, to keep on tuning into new shows and watching them loyally only to have our hearts ripped out like the huntsman as our favorite new shows are then canceled. I wasn't even planning on watching anything new this season because of this except Terra Nova seemed interesting and so did OUAT. But if both shows are canceled then that's it for me, I'll stick to my DVD's and Blu Ray's rather than take a chance with any future new shows, and the few I watch that are still going (Merlin, Doctor Who, Warehouse 13, Fringe).

I like that FOX is sort of figuring this out with Fringe. Every year its the same song and dance from the press regarding Fringe "ratings are so low its GONNA get canceled!!!" in fact I'm already seeing sites like Airlock Alpha reporting the EXACT same thing they've been reporting about the show for the past TWO years. Yet FOX consistently renews it. They've realized that while yes, Fringe MAY get lower numbers than other shows, it has an EXTREMELY loyal audience - those low numbers are consistent, the same people keep on coming back to watch it. It may not get the numbers that the Simpsons or Baseball do, but people talk about it more than most shows on FOX and FOX has recognized that it has a large DVR audience.

Networks need to realize this about sci-fi, and we the viewers have been telling them for years since Firefly that this is what needs to happen. Accept lower numbers, but realize that those lower numbers are loyal audiences and that in the long run, you'll see bigger returns. Look at Firefly and Star Trek. Both shows performed poorly and were canceled initially but look at the long-term returns that both shows have, I mean, a canceled 3 year TV show spawned not one, not two, but SIX (counting The Animated Series) spin-offs and ELEVEN (soon to be twelve) movies, not to mention the merchandising! And look at Firefly, I couldn't walk around my college campus when I was in undergrad without hearing people talking about it as I passed them. How many shows that were canceled after 11 episodes got turned into a movie?!.

The problem is networks fail to plan ahead. They see only the immediate return but if they did I bet the genre would look much better today than it does. Sci-fi/fantasy is a totally different beast than anything else on TV. Its storylines tend to evolve much more than any other genre (how many shows have had the kind of character development that Farscape did, where an audience starts hating a character as the villain and he turns into one of the good guys that we respect by his demise?), and I bet the DVD sales for shows like Law and Order don't come close to matching the sales of shows like Star Trek or Firefly.

jeri
December 12th, 2011, 04:58 PM
Just noticed, Mr. Gold shouldnt be able to Dig a hole at all because of his Leg. Though Rumpel on the other Hand seems completly fit. Is there something we havent been told?
I think the Evil Queen threw in a trick when they made the deal for the curse when Rumpy asked to have comfort in the "real" world. She gave him wealth, but has made him crippled, probably painfully so. I would be like her, power mad evil thing. Or maybe Regina caused him to have an accident in Storybrooke.

Ukko
December 12th, 2011, 05:33 PM
I think its likely that Grimm will be canceled OUAT and Terra Nova will be renewed, Terra Nova probably for a smaller budget than season 1 had. I wouldn't really miss Terra Nova, though it IS starting to get interesting, but I think I would OUAT as I'm really enjoying it more than I thought I would.

Its current ratings and performance would say otherwise.

jelgate
December 12th, 2011, 05:41 PM
Its current ratings and performance would say otherwise.No they don't. However Grimm is on Friday and its NBC so the standard requirment is lower then Sunday-Thursday. It could go either way but I am leaning towards cancelled

Ukko
December 12th, 2011, 05:43 PM
No they don't. However Grimm is on Friday and its NBC so the standard requirment is lower then Sunday-Thursday. It could go either way but I am leaning towards cancelled

That isnt what the site that you use to post ratings and likely cancellation says.

jelgate
December 12th, 2011, 05:46 PM
That isnt what the site that you use to post ratings and likely cancellation says.

Last Friday's episode was a 1.6

Ukko
December 12th, 2011, 05:52 PM
Last Friday's episode was a 1.6

Which according to your site is actually good for a friday (and after a two week break) on NBC (held steady on a thrusday too) with competition from Fringe and supernatural, it appears to aslo be holding steady (leading its timeslot) at those ratings and is consistently one of the networks highest rated shows.

jelgate
December 12th, 2011, 05:55 PM
We'll see. Friday is a little more unpredictible then the other days

Ian-S
December 12th, 2011, 07:19 PM
Hope this doesn't get cancelled, just starting to enjoy it, I agree with the previous poster about networks not learning from their previous mistakes/assumptions. They really need to wake up and realise this is 2012 nearly and that the TV is no longer the only source of entertainment for a family, of course ratings are going to be lower than 1990 when there were but only a dozen tv channels and console was something most people did to others rather than play on.

Must admit I did start thinking that Gold was

the wolf.

Really dislike that evil Queen too :lol:

majorsal
December 12th, 2011, 07:37 PM
latest ep from 12/11


wow, what an ep! :D

poor huntsman...

i loved regina and emma getting in a fight! but is it wrong of me to be super happy when regina punched out emma? :p i yelled at the screen, 'you go, girl!' :p

does regina 'really' remember her fairytale life, or just parts of it? or maybe she doesn't really remember any of it, just gets these certain vibes and impulses.

the queen said to huntsman that snow broke a promise (which is the fuel for the queen's hatred towards snow), so i wonder what that promise was?

i missed one moment in the ep (mom came in the ask me something), so what suddenly made snow run off from the huntsman? i saw them talking, i heard snow mention that he was the only person to not offer condolences for her father's death, and then i glanced up and snow threw something at huntsman and ran off. i missed what happened to set off that run. :mckay: :p

POOR HUNTSMAN/SHERIFF! i wonder what made him remember, and why only when he was kissing emma?

lommit
December 14th, 2011, 05:25 AM
i really enjoy the show:) think that they have made a tv show that can owrk for everyone in all ages. think they have mangaed to make the plot good and keeping their diffrent charaters up and alive...
The jimmy crickets episode was my fav! they did such an awsazzinng job on that , i started to cry at the end. it was a perfect script and the actor who playes jimmy is just really good.

and ep 12 also briliant :) because if a show goes to long say 20 eps per seson, they have to keep the middle part good. and they did that very well with the episode huntsman

AresLover452
December 14th, 2011, 11:39 AM
I wanted to cry so bad for the Huntsman..... graham was my favorite!! :'(

I so can not wait for more of this show!! it is FANTASTIC!! Love it!

fems
December 14th, 2011, 12:51 PM
I actually didn't really like 1x07 that much. It just seemed to drag on and on in the beginning and for as little as we know him, I felt the Sheriff's behavior was very out of character for him. I'm not a huge fan of Emma (nor of the actress) or him so I found it very hard to keep my attention on the episode and then he was drunk and suddenly kissing Emma. Of course, as luck will have it that will help him remember (maybe she should just make out with everyone in Storybrooke and the curse will be broken :rolleyes:) and then she's all offended and he goes home to the mayor... The plot of him having no heart also seemed to come out of the blue and it felt like it was something we should have known about yet it had never been hinted at as far as I recall. The whole Snow White thing was boring to me as well and I still don't get why the EQ chose him as the huntsman seeing how the mirror seemed to show her him from the moment he shot the dear and then his behavior in the bar... why on Earth would she expect a guy that cries over killing a dear and apologizing to it to be able to kill innocent Snow? And if he was raised by wolves then how can he read?

The whole meeting at the school was weird too and the flashbacks of Snow and the EQ kept making me wonder why the EQ was evil as she apparently wasn't at one time? In the end it was revealed she was pure evil because... Snow had told her secret! How lame?! It better be a darn good secret otherwise the whole plot seems rather ridiculous.

I liked the part where we saw the mayor go to the tomb and into the fairytale world, plus the whole heart-thing was kind of cool. Seems EQ had always had an eye on the huntsman, even back then. I always thought EQ had turned evil or was angry with Snow either because Snow was taking her place and/or was prettier than her (which seems implausible with the chosen actresses) or because she'd been madly in love with the King and Snow had somehow sabotaged the marriage and then the man had died. But apparently it's all about Snow's big mouth. Makes me wonder if EQ simply killed the King to cause Snow harm.

I didn't see the kill coming up until the last few minutes and I have to say that the mayor's timing was excellent because now Emma might think the people will simply die if they learn the truth about their lives. Why didn't Emma try CPR on the sheriff?

All in all, I thought it was a very weak and boring episode, up until the reveal of the hearts chamber. That was kind of cool. But the start was too slow and then it just dragged on and on, so overall I still think it's a weak episode because you shouldn't have to see 3/4th of an episode before it gets good.

tomstone
December 14th, 2011, 03:42 PM
I liked the part where we saw the mayor go to the tomb and into the fairytale world, plus the whole heart-thing was kind of cool. Seems EQ had always had an eye on the huntsman, even back then. I always thought EQ had turned evil or was angry with Snow either because Snow was taking her place and/or was prettier than her (which seems implausible with the chosen actresses) or because she'd been madly in love with the King and Snow had somehow sabotaged the marriage and then the man had died. But apparently it's all about Snow's big mouth. Makes me wonder if EQ simply killed the King to cause Snow harm.

I missed the part about the Secret that Snow White spilled, but the EQ did kill her Husband because of what SW did. I can take a blind guess since they want to somehow stay true to the stories. I would say that the Queens Secret is that she stays beautiful with the Help of a Spell and is in reallity way older, the King of course wouldnt have liked it at all when he had heard about it and so she killed him with Snow White next on the list.

Snookie16
December 16th, 2011, 01:45 PM
I enjoyed the episode (and the entire series thus far) and simply screamed when Regina went into her vault. I think that is the first time we have seen her actually cross into "fairy". I also think it interesting that in the preview for the next episodes we see a normal-appearing Rumplestiltskin in the fairytale world...he's trying to work a spell....and that turns him into the creature we see? looks like the writers have some great storyline ahead for us! :D can't wait until the show returns!