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carmencatalina
December 16th, 2011, 10:49 PM
b_barnett posted this over on the Carlyle/Rush thunk thread - nice interview with show writer Jane Espenson talking about Once Upon a Time (on Blogcritics). Thanks, b_barnett!

http://blogcritics.org/video/article/reinventing-fairy-tales-an-interview-with/

RJLCyberPunk
December 18th, 2011, 12:37 PM
It seems they have pre emptied the show for the remainder of the month of December...

jelgate
December 18th, 2011, 06:22 PM
It seems they have pre emptied the show for the remainder of the month of December...
All the scripited shows are like that. They know December is a death slot

LadyGalaxyJ
December 18th, 2011, 08:05 PM
Oh, I didn't know there was a OUAT thread on GW! Should have checked before today. *feels dumb*

On Rumpy: (Spoilers for last episode and future episodes!)
Now, I haven't read the whole thread, so I don't know what's been said before. Do you guys think he knows anything about the curse? I've been trying to guess, but each episode I come with a new answer. Until last week, I wasn't even sure if Regina herself knew -- but it was pretty obvious after she killed Graham. Eh.

But the episode when we come back is on Rumpy's character. I so cannot wait for that. Maybe we'll know then was he knows... ;) I think it will be interesting!

As far as renewal/lifespan of the show goes -- I don't know. :/ I tend to agree with Sky. They can't drag this story for too long, but I get the vibe that they will try, which makes me sort of 'meh' about the future of the show. Honestly, I think this would have made a perfect mini-series and then you wrap and it's over. I'm just telling myself for now that we'll see where they go with it, but I must say, I'm intrigued not just as to what will happened to the characters I've come to care about, but to the future of the show as well.

jeri
December 20th, 2011, 08:53 AM
Spoilery link found by Artemis-Neith
http://www.tvovermind.com/once-upon-a-time-abc/once-upon-a-time-episode-8-photo-preview/

jeri
December 20th, 2011, 08:56 AM
Another spoilery link from Artemis
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/capture1sa.png/

carmencatalina
December 20th, 2011, 09:05 AM
I'm so ridiculously excited for the next episode - I can't believe I have to wait another 3 weeks!

LadyGalaxyJ
December 20th, 2011, 09:57 AM
Thank you for the links Jeri! :D

Alder
December 20th, 2011, 03:24 PM
I wasn't sure about this show at all, but persevered past the first couple of episodes. I've really been enjoying it.

I was totally taken aback by the death of the Sheriff though. I'm curious as to what direction it takes after the break. :D

Homer 120
December 22nd, 2011, 02:11 AM
ONCE UPON A TIME - "Desperate Souls" - Regina and Mr. Gold play dirty politics and take opposite sides when Emma runs for a coveted Storybrooke public office against Sidney. Meanwhile, back in the fairytale world that was, Rumplestiltskin tries to track down the ultimate power source in order to help his son avert the horrors of a meaningless war, on "Once Upon a Time," SUNDAY, JANUARY 8 (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network. (ABC/JACK ROWAND) ROBERT CARLYLE, TY OLSSON, DYLAN SCHMID

Source: SpoilerTV.com

YES!!! A Rumpy-centric episode!! Ty Olsson? Original Andy from Eureka?!

Artemis-Neith
December 23rd, 2011, 04:25 AM
Hi to all who enjoy OUAT as much as I do.

ABC released a new (very) short promo for OUAT,

contains also a few spoilers! So, if you don't like spoilers, don't watch! ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L20R8zfaCNQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L20R8zfaCNQ

Artemis-Neith
December 23rd, 2011, 11:26 AM
Hi again. I can't believe it but, I've just seen a really spoilery vid for the next episode (1x8):


I mean, it's really spoilery!
http://jmolove.forumfree.it/?t=57045081&st=90#entry483656549

If you love spoilers have fun. If not don't open at all. Now's the time to think about...

Artha O'neill
December 23rd, 2011, 06:47 PM
^^

Wow, just....Wow.

Thanks for that, man.

LadyGalaxyJ
December 23rd, 2011, 10:33 PM
January 8th can never come fast enough!

jeri
December 24th, 2011, 10:12 AM
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Artwork/Walk2W.jpg

AresLover452
December 24th, 2011, 05:29 PM
January 8th can never come fast enough!


Same here!! I need new OUAT!!! Like REALLY NEED IT!! Omg!! Love Rumplelstiltskin!!! He is AWESOME! lol!

carmencatalina
December 26th, 2011, 11:01 AM
Hi again. I can't believe it but, I've just seen a really spoilery vid for the next episode (1x8):


I mean, it's really spoilery!
http://jmolove.forumfree.it/?t=57045081&st=90#entry483656549


If you love spoilers have fun. If not don't open at all. Now's the time to think about...

Wow! Ok, really spoilery (don't go watch if you don't want to be spoiled).

But soooooo good - I think this is going to be an amazing episode!

jeri
December 26th, 2011, 06:58 PM
Same here!! I need new OUAT!!! Like REALLY NEED IT!! Omg!! Love Rumplelstiltskin!!! He is AWESOME! lol!

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/tumblr_lvn6tiFJXW1qa01vzo1_250.gif
Rumpy's working on that! :D

<img tags snipped, the limit for inline images is 100K, that vid was over 500.> :)

Artemis-Neith
January 2nd, 2012, 02:16 AM
Psst, there's a new promo for next weeks OUAT episode "Desperate Souls"!

Beware of Spoilers!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR8CzigkK_s

JT-2
January 3rd, 2012, 04:02 PM
Psst, there's a new promo for next weeks OUAT episode "Desperate Souls"!

Beware of Spoilers!

[=youtube;eR8CzigkK_s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR8CzigkK_s[/video]

Thank you for posting this! I'm looking forward to it. :D

mi_guard
January 6th, 2012, 12:47 PM
http://blogcritics.org/video/article/live-chat-once-upon-a-time/

live chat on next OUAT episode "Desperate Souls"

b_barnett
January 6th, 2012, 12:54 PM
http://blogcritics.org/video/article/live-chat-once-upon-a-time/

live chat on next OUAT episode "Desperate Souls"

Thanks for posting that! I have a whole feature series on OUAT going at Blogcritics. Hope you stop by ;)
http://blogcritics.org/video/article/live-chat-once-upon-a-time/

Artemis-Neith
January 7th, 2012, 03:31 AM
Hallo to all, major spoilers ahead, if you watch the first 8 minutes of the new espisode of OUAT:

Here's the deal: enjoy it! (or not!)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2l_Tfp87rM

tomstone
January 7th, 2012, 12:28 PM

jelgate
January 7th, 2012, 01:31 PM
tomstone is so excited that he/she is speechless

Krisz
January 7th, 2012, 03:34 PM
tomstone is so excited that he/she is speechless

LOL!

I'm looking forward to this episode too. I think I have to admit that I'm getting to like this show gradually. :)

tomstone
January 7th, 2012, 04:22 PM
LOL!

I'm looking forward to this episode too. I think I have to admit that I'm getting to like this show gradually. :)

This....is....awesome......!

Finally found some words. :D

SGalisa
January 7th, 2012, 05:05 PM
ok, the first (totally blank posting of) tomstone's post won't show up in the reply box (either)


tomstone is so excited that he/she is speechless


This....is....awesome......!

Finally found some words. :D

awww.. here I thought the forum posting eating glitch thing actually made an opportunity for something funny to be told! :D

btw, I just "discovered" this show last weekend during the marathon.. quite by accident (and timing). I had read about Robert Carlyle playing "Rumpelstiltskin," but forgot about it, until I saw him in the (marathon of) eps.
Last weekend, I just happened to be channel hopping and decided to see what the main Tv channels had on for New Year's Day.. and "Once Upon A Time" was already in progress (1st episode). I caught it half way in, and was *enchanted* by what I saw (trying to figure out the story, too).

I liked how the scenes would prep the viewer for the storyline by going back into the fantasy version as background to the current day real world of events unfolding. I thought everything was well done, especially the blending of both worlds. I also love seeing the costumes and sets of fairytale land things. Loved how they managed to get the evil queen to look so beautiful in the fantasy world (from a distant view, she looks exactly like the cartoon character seen in most fairytale books of the evil queen) -- not to say she looks more ordinary in the real world, but she's utterly stunning in the fantasy world (on par with Adria's character of SG-1, played by Morena Baccarin)

Years ago, I had seen a comedy version of Snow White as a temporary Tv series, so when I heard this was another Snow White type of story, I thought -- ehhh, why not.. ;)

Well, long story short, I got addicted especially when I called my sister up, and she had already seen and enjoyed the series so far. I found out ABC was doing a marathon this night, so I ended up getting severely sidetracked and drawn into watching the whole thing.

However, I dread to say more, because usually things I like watching on TV, get taken away. :(
Even tho I find this series more of a Brother's Grimm version, which I don't really care for (I hate horrible story endings), I hope this show lasts a long while. It seems to be worth the efforts being poured into it. :)

jeri
January 7th, 2012, 08:53 PM
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/ouat12-0034.jpg

jeri
January 7th, 2012, 08:55 PM
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/th_ouat12-0029.jpg (http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/ouat12-0029.jpg)click for larger

tomstone
January 8th, 2012, 09:07 PM
Loved tonights Episode. Alot of insight and alot of Rumpel, cant wait to see where the Season goes.

Rumpel is a serious piece of Work isnt he? Its really hard to say who is worse, Gold or Regina. Regina seems like she just wants peace in her own small world controlled by her, while Rumpel spents the whole day messing with everybody. No matter if the result is good or bad as long as its entertaining. Its just weird to have 2 Villains at the same time and also working against each other.

I still cant figure out if they know that each other knows about the Curse or not.

Homer 120
January 9th, 2012, 08:53 AM
Fans must've caught up on Once Upon A Time over the holidays, it was up 28% from its last original on December 11 to a 3.7 adults 18-49 rating.

Source: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/01/09/tv-ratings-sunday-tebow-time-lifts-cbs-to-easy-win-the-firm-premieres-weakly-once-upon-a-time-shoots-up/115771/#comment-1047371

YES!!!!!!!!!!!! That New Year's Marathon must've helped :D

jeri
January 9th, 2012, 09:14 AM
Loved tonights Episode. Alot of insight and alot of Rumpel, cant wait to see where the Season goes.

Rumpel is a serious piece of Work isnt he? Its really hard to say who is worse, Gold or Regina. Regina seems like she just wants peace in her own small world controlled by her, while Rumpel spents the whole day messing with everybody. No matter if the result is good or bad as long as its entertaining. Its just weird to have 2 Villains at the same time and also working against each other.

I still cant figure out if they know that each other knows about the Curse or not.

Great episode, worth the wait! I know these guys do a "Lost" thing with references to other stuff, so did you catch the Dr. Rush line "Well, it is my shop " LOL! Mr. Gold is a pretty sneaky dude. I wonder if he is thinking that if the curse is broken, he can somehow brake the spell that Rumple is under? He would do anything it takes I suspect. I don't think he did that just for "entertainment". We see that Rumple was a decent fellow to start out, and we still don't know what happened to his son, so maybe this is his agenda, to break the spell and regain his son.
This is not a spoilery statement so, do you notice how in fairytale land everyone just accepts strange behavior or proposals as common? They easily accept a fairy godmother appearing to grant their wishes, then easily accept a deal with her killer?!!! Or strangersjust happen to know how to defeat the enemy with magic? So Rumple runs off and infiltrates the castle?!!! I do seem to recall that is how the original fairy tales are written, something that is to good to be true probably is. :)

tomstone
January 9th, 2012, 09:31 AM
Great episode, worth the wait! I know these guys do a "Lost" thing with references to other stuff, so did you catch the Dr. Rush line "Well, it is my shop " LOL! Mr. Gold is a pretty sneaky dude. I wonder if he is thinking that if the curse is broken, he can somehow brake the spell that Rumple is under? He would do anything it takes I suspect. I don't think he did that just for "entertainment". We see that Rumple was a decent fellow to start out, and we still don't know what happened to his son, so maybe this is his agenda, to break the spell and regain his son.
This is not a spoilery statement so, do you notice how in fairytale land everyone just accepts strange behavior or proposals as common? They easily accept a fairy godmother appearing to grant their wishes, then easily accept a deal with her killer?!!! Or strangersjust happen to know how to defeat the enemy with magic? So Rumple runs off and infiltrates the castle?!!! I do seem to recall that is how the original fairy tales are written, something that is to good to be true probably is. :)

The Fairy Tale World is a weird place where everyone knows that there is Magic everywhere, though they dont all know about all the different magic beings. They just know they are powerless and hope for a wonder, if one comes along, one would be stupid to not accept that wonder.

It was the Dark Being itself that tipped Rumpel off on how to gain the powers he wanted. It looks like that man had been cursed and this curse created the Rumpel we know. His Son was obviously afraid and started to question his father, so he probably ran away and joined the fight.

It would be a nice twist if we already know his Son in Storybrook. I am pretty sure its Prince Charming, at least that would explain why it is his Child that can break the Curse.

KEK
January 9th, 2012, 11:14 AM
Real-world Rumple reminds me of this guy

http://www.gateworld.net/gallery/albums/uni_season2/205-Cloverdale/screencaps/normal_sgu_205_0719.jpg

jelgate
January 9th, 2012, 12:11 PM
Fans must've caught up on Once Upon A Time over the holidays, it was up 28% from its last original on December 11 to a 3.7 adults 18-49 rating.

Source: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/01/09/tv-ratings-sunday-tebow-time-lifts-cbs-to-easy-win-the-firm-premieres-weakly-once-upon-a-time-shoots-up/115771/#comment-1047371

YES!!!!!!!!!!!! That New Year's Marathon must've helped :D
Someone is stealing my job:mad::P


Really the reasons for it jumping up go about 20 ways. The episode almost makes me feel sorry form Rumplstilskin. He was a desperate man who was played

Ian-S
January 9th, 2012, 03:45 PM

Ian-S
January 9th, 2012, 03:46 PM
Excellent episode, I used to hate RC but I only watched this because he is in it (I only watched Universe because it was Stargate etc.), but I'm glad I did, shame I can't get the Mrs into it, she still hates him (and you'd think coming from the same place RC does would make her want to watch, nope...).

I do like the way they make Emma wear those see-through tops though :lol:

BTW, IMDB has Jamie Dornan credited for 19 episodes.... hmmm.... a mistake perhaps?

SGalisa
January 9th, 2012, 08:11 PM
that was a *bizarre* ending (last night's eppy). Wonder how Emma will react from this point forward.

Also, I'm guessing with what Robert Carlyle did while playing "Rumpelstiltskin" is what Rush wished he could have done in SGU.. :D

jeri
January 9th, 2012, 09:17 PM
The Fairy Tale World is a weird place where everyone knows that there is Magic everywhere, though they dont all know about all the different magic beings. They just know they are powerless and hope for a wonder, if one comes along, one would be stupid to not accept that wonder.

It was the Dark Being itself that tipped Rumpel off on how to gain the powers he wanted. It looks like that man had been cursed and this curse created the Rumpel we know. His Son was obviously afraid and started to question his father, so he probably ran away and joined the fight.

It would be a nice twist if we already know his Son in Storybrook. I am pretty sure its Prince Charming, at least that would explain why it is his Child that can break the Curse.

Maybe the whole point in the fantastic coincidences in fairy tales is to make sure one gets the point of the moral lesson. It looks like Rumpy's son will go and join the war, he certainly is afraid of his father now. I don't think he is Prince Charming. Wasn't he the one who was a twin? But I'm betting he's somewhere in Storybrooke.

Krisz
January 9th, 2012, 09:55 PM
Best episode of the series so far for me. Rumpelstiltskin centric so I guess it was destined to be!

Great double twist with....

....Emma saving the wicked Queen from the fire and how Emma's reactions were actually manipulated by Rumpelstiltskin to get his desired end result.

I just have to wonder how Emma can deal with this sort of thing, makes watching this show more interesting now. :)

jeri
January 11th, 2012, 09:29 AM
There are some fans doing a Podcast for OUAT. I listened to one so far, it was fun, and it's free. Here is the link:http://ouat.roneyzone.com/test/

decarus
January 11th, 2012, 08:01 PM
There is another podcast i really like instead. It is four fans and they have really interesting logical conversations about the show. It is the best podcast on the show i have found so far.

http://oncepodcast.com/

Skydiver
January 12th, 2012, 03:47 AM
Rumpy and son

yeah, I think the irony is, in his desperation to save his son, he becomes a monster that his son hates and it drives his son away. fairy tales are full of such 'be careful of what you wish for' moments

either his son is in the village, or, thanks to emma's presence, he's the local boy that joined the army and went off to war and he comes back and is able to come back thanks to emma's interferance

jeri
January 12th, 2012, 08:21 AM
There is another podcast i really like instead. It is four fans and they have really interesting logical conversations about the show. It is the best podcast on the show i have found so far.

http://oncepodcast.com/
Thanks for the link, I'll check it out! :)

tomstone
January 16th, 2012, 12:05 AM
Wow, that was a really emotional Episode and I loved it!

I would bet the new Guy has something to do with Rumpel. It was just very off how friendly Mr. Gold behaved. After Emma did that last Episode I wouldnt have imagined him being helpful. There has to be something he wants and since he is always a step ahead of everyone whe probably knew about the new arrival.

Would be fun if the new arrival is somehow the Wolf from the "Little Red Riding Hood" Story. Since he is already at Grannys. :)

jelgate
January 16th, 2012, 09:08 AM
A 3.3 HH for the 18-49 demo and a 9.839 million viewers.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/01/16/tv-ratings-sunday-golden-globes-steady-ish-fox-animation-scores-big-after-football-once-upon-a-time-housewives-good-wife-fall/116567/

teyla-nick94
January 16th, 2012, 11:51 AM
Hey there.

I have a request for you:

I could only watch the first 27 minutes. But I don't know what happened next. Can anyone please tell me? Please, please, please

tomstone
January 16th, 2012, 12:30 PM
Hey there.

I have a request for you:

I could only watch the first 27 minutes. But I don't know what happened next. Can anyone please tell me? Please, please, please


Fairy Tale World
Hensel and Gretel went about like in the Original Story and Gretel pushed the Witch into the Oven. As they both make their Escape the Evil Queen is watching and sending a Fireball through her magic mirror, burning the blind Witch in the process while she declares "I would have gone with gravy" ;)

Once the Kids are back at the Castle the Queen opens the sack to reveal the Poison Apple from the Snow White Story. The Kids demand that the Queen should keep her promise and bring them to their father, while she offers them something else. She tells them that they were left alone and that she would like to have both of them life with her in the Castle for their good work on getting the Apple. Gretel refuses the offer wich enfuriates the Queen, she then sends them off to a unknown location.


Back in the Real World
Emma is getting ready to bring the Kids away. Regina and Henry are standing by watching as Emma sits the Kids in the Car. Before she drives off Henry runs up to her Car and warns her again that she cant bring them away and that something bad will happen. Emma replies that something bad already happened and she drives off. While on the way out of Town the Car suddenly stops, leaving Emma no choice but to call for Help.


Fairy Tale World
The Evil Queen sends for the Father of the 2 Kids and questions him why they would refuse her offer after being stranded like that. He replies that its because of the love of their Family and that they will always find one another. The Queen then again gets mad and releases him, but she wont tell him where she send Hensel and Gretel. So he may have his Happy End, but only when they find each other again.

The Shot changes to Hensel and Gretel lying in the middle of the Woods. Scared but together they make their way through a Forest that seems Endless.


Real World
The Help arrives and as it turns out it is the Kids Dad. Emma wanted him to see his Kids at least once in order to change his mind. He struggles with the decision, but eventually comes around to let them stay with him.

After all is done she goes back to her Appartment where Marry Margaret is already waiting and folding clothes. They talk about how it all ended well and the theme of Henrys theorys comes up again. So Emma finally decides to tell her that Snow White had a daughter and that Henry thinks Emma is her. So after Marry realises that means that she is a mother sitting in front of her daughter she smiles and says "I have a kid. You'd think I would remember something like that. You kind of have my chin though.". So they kind of dismiss it and Emma stands up to go get some fresh air. While Emma walks out, Marry notices the Box with Emmas things and the Baby blanket. Once she is gone, it seems like Marry remembers for a secound and smells on the blanket only to snap out of it and throw it back into the Box.

In the last Scene Henry brings Emma Pumkin Pie to her car, in the middle of the night, and they both sit down to talk. As Henry mentions that Emma is really changing things, some Biker comes up the mainstreet. He parks on the other side of the street and walks up to them. Both of them never saw him before and he asks if he was in Storybrook and if he could get a room somewhere. Emma then points him to Grannys Bed and Breakfast. As he goes back to his Bike Emma asks what his name was again, he then replies that he never mentioned it and drives off.

As he drives off Emma asks Henry about the thing that there are no strangers that come to Storybrook on which he replies with a simple "They dont".

The End

Hope I am not missing anything important.

jeri
January 16th, 2012, 01:53 PM
Good job, tomstone.
Did you notice when Mr. Gold told Emma who bought the compass, there is a shot of the file card he had, and it's blank. I think they are giving us a hint that Mr. Gold does know what is going on and remembers all.
I liked when Gretal pushed the witch in the oven that it was the Evil Queen that actually lit the fire. In the original story it was the kids. I think it was a nice touch to let the kids be more innocent than the old story.

tomstone
January 16th, 2012, 02:33 PM
Good job, tomstone.
Did you notice when Mr. Gold told Emma who bought the compass, there is a shot of the file card he had, and it's blank. I think they are giving us a hint that Mr. Gold does know what is going on and remembers all.
I liked when Gretal pushed the witch in the oven that it was the Evil Queen that actually lit the fire. In the original story it was the kids. I think it was a nice touch to let the kids be more innocent than the old story.

I think they gave us enough hints that he remembers. Just as he used "Please" with a much saying grin in one of the first Episodes, because he knew very well Regina couldn't ignore that. What I ask myself is, do they both know the other remembers? They never adressed each other in any other way than Madam Mayor and Mr. Gold.

I agree that, that with the Queen delivering the Final blow was a nice touch. They tie the Stories together quite nicely, which makes me love it even more.

jeri
January 16th, 2012, 08:29 PM
Hey there.

I have a request for you:

I could only watch the first 27 minutes. But I don't know what happened next. Can anyone please tell me? Please, please, please

Well, you are not alone, although I watched it on TV. My Amazon video library thing stopped at about 20 minutes in, so I couldn't get the screen caps I wanted. Maybe it's because I have a Mac, they say the download is not compatible for macs. I've viewed the other episodes, but not without problems. I do have a Windows program on my Mac, I'll see if I can use it to download, if not, I'm going to unsubscribe.:(

Atlantis1
January 17th, 2012, 02:55 PM
I agree. I've had that feeling since the first episode.

the fifth man
January 17th, 2012, 08:08 PM
My wife absolutely loves this show. I really hope it gets renewed for her sake.

tomstone
January 22nd, 2012, 08:28 PM
LOVED tonights episode. It gets really better and better. How many Episodes are left till the Season Finale?

Also is it just me or does the Fairytale World not seem as happy endingish as its supposed to? It just seems that often they didnt have their Happy end in the first place.

As for the Episode
"FINALLYOOOOHHHHSH*T" That was pretty much my reaction at the last scene. This is not over yet.

The newcomer definatly is bad news. Its hard to say if Outsiders can really enter Storybrooke and that he identifies himself as a Writer is even stranger. Just asking myself a bit at the moment what was there first? These Stories or their Writers?

ZRFTS
January 22nd, 2012, 11:37 PM
Tonights episode was definately going somewhere; I have not managed to catch all of the episodes (was planning to do that on the New Years Day marathon before other things took over) but I am planning on carving out a time which I can watch all of the ones that I missed.

Definitely a great show, Pilot had me hooked from the beginning.

AresLover452
January 23rd, 2012, 12:26 AM
I am SO LOVING this series!!! every episode gets better and better!!!

TheRandomOne
January 23rd, 2012, 06:11 AM
I guess everyone has to kiss Emma. In order for them to start remembering

jelgate
January 23rd, 2012, 12:25 PM
A 3.2 HH 18-49 demo and 9.30 million viewers.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/01/23/tv-ratings-sunday-of-course-giants-49ers-dominated-the-ratings-but-once-upon-a-time-and-desperate-housewives-hold-up-well/117257/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Tvbythenumbers+%28TVbytheNumbers%29



To answer tomstone's question their are 12 more episodes left. A positive thing about premiereing the show so late in fall is that it has the benefit of a low amount of reruns

jeri
January 23rd, 2012, 06:46 PM
LOVED tonights episode. It gets really better and better. How many Episodes are left till the Season Finale?

Also is it just me or does the Fairytale World not seem as happy endingish as its supposed to? It just seems that often they didnt have their Happy end in the first place.

As for the Episode
"FINALLYOOOOHHHHSH*T" That was pretty much my reaction at the last scene. This is not over yet.

The newcomer definatly is bad news. Its hard to say if Outsiders can really enter Storybrooke and that he identifies himself as a Writer is even stranger. Just asking myself a bit at the moment what was there first? These Stories or their Writers?
I had this crazy thought about the stranger who says he's a writer,
doesn't Stephen King live in Maine? and doesn't he say he uses an old typewriter? LOL!

Skydiver
January 23rd, 2012, 06:57 PM
lol

my theory

he's the writer of 'The Book'. And he's there to rewrite the fairy tales now that Emma is changing things

majorsal
January 23rd, 2012, 07:15 PM
LOVED tonights episode. It gets really better and better. How many Episodes are left till the Season Finale?

Also is it just me or does the Fairytale World not seem as happy endingish as its supposed to? It just seems that often they didnt have their Happy end in the first place.

As for the Episode
"FINALLYOOOOHHHHSH*T" That was pretty much my reaction at the last scene. This is not over yet.

The newcomer definatly is bad news. Its hard to say if Outsiders can really enter Storybrooke and that he identifies himself as a Writer is even stranger. Just asking myself a bit at the moment what was there first? These Stories or their Writers?

loved the seven dwarfs!! :p

did anyone catch the name of the dwarf that died? i know he's not one of the 7, but i'm still curious.

the fifth man
January 23rd, 2012, 07:21 PM
lol

my theory

he's the writer of 'The Book'. And he's there to rewrite the fairy tales now that Emma is changing things

Definitely an interesting theory.

tomstone
January 23rd, 2012, 07:30 PM
I had this crazy thought about the stranger who says he's a writer,
doesn't Stephen King live in Maine? and doesn't he say he uses an old typewriter? LOL!

LOL, I never knew that. :)


lol

my theory

he's the writer of 'The Book'. And he's there to rewrite the fairy tales now that Emma is changing things

That was what I was thinking too, but havent these Stories been around much longer?


loved the seven dwarfs!! :p

did anyone catch the name of the dwarf that died? i know he's not one of the 7, but i'm still curious.

His name was "Stealthy". I found it quite funny too, for a secound I thought that it was Rumpel.

jeri
January 23rd, 2012, 07:34 PM
That was what I was thinking too, but havent these Stories been around much longer

Yeah, but these are the writers from Lost, anything can happen. :p

jelgate
January 23rd, 2012, 07:36 PM
That was what I was thinking too, but havent these Stories been around much longer?



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Time is nonexistent in Storybroke.

ZRFTS
January 23rd, 2012, 08:49 PM
Time is nonexistent in Storybroke.

I wouldn't say it's nonexistant; it existed when Emma came into Storybrooke didn't she?

Krisz
January 23rd, 2012, 09:01 PM
I will admit now that I like this show ........

.....as the characters of Snow White and Prince Charming don't seem to be as annoying as I found them to start with. I'm actually beginning to like Prince Charming and this episode was a good one for them both. The angst in both worlds as they they are forced to be apart but can't.

Loved how they ended up in 'Jack's cabin'! Good thing Jack wasn't there, he'd be a bit cross having the door broken down! And where's the Vancouver rain when you need it for the 'storm' they were running from, there was bright sunshine in the background in that scene as they went to the door where the rain making machine was in action?! :P You've got to laugh when they have to 'make' rain on shows filmed in Vancouver!

Certainly intrigued about the 'stranger'.

Wasn't the 'eighth dwarf' called 'Speedy'? So annoying I can't quite remember as I thought that was a fun interesting addition to the dwarf story line, meeting an eighth dwarf.

I just crack up at Robert Carlyle's high pitched gleeful, almost insane squeak he's developing for Rumpelstiltskin when he gets excited about closing his deals!

tomstone
January 23rd, 2012, 09:23 PM
I will admit now that I like this show ........

.....as the characters of Snow White and Prince Charming don't seem to be as annoying as I found them to start with. I'm actually beginning to like Prince Charming and this episode was a good one for them both. The angst in both worlds as they they are forced to be apart but can't.

Loved how they ended up in 'Jack's cabin'! Good thing Jack wasn't there, he'd be a bit cross having the door broken down! And where's the Vancouver rain when you need it for the 'storm' they were running from, there was bright sunshine in the background in that scene as they went to the door where the rain making machine was in action?! :P You've got to laugh when they have to 'make' rain on shows filmed in Vancouver!

Certainly intrigued about the 'stranger'.

Wasn't the 'eighth dwarf' called 'Speedy'? So annoying I can't quite remember as I thought that was a fun interesting addition to the dwarf story line, meeting an eighth dwarf.

I just crack up at Robert Carlyle's high pitched gleeful, almost insane squeak he's developing for Rumpelstiltskin when he gets excited about closing his deals!



I just checked and the Name of the 8th Dwarf really was "Stealthy". So sad that he was killed off that fast.

So it really was his Cabin? I had that impression, but I thought I am just imagining something because I watched Stargate SG1 before that.

ColonelCarter
January 24th, 2012, 01:11 PM
I'm pretty sure that it was Jack's cabin. I watched it online as I missed the live airing. I watched through the scene once then went back to see the outside shots of the cabin/lake area and I'm almost positive that it's the same. Especially since the show is filmed in British Columbia.

Ogler
January 24th, 2012, 05:02 PM
loved the seven dwarfs!! :p

did anyone catch the name of the dwarf that died? i know he's not one of the 7, but i'm still curious.

Yes it was Stealthy

Krisz
January 24th, 2012, 08:17 PM
I'm pretty sure that it was Jack's cabin. I watched it online as I missed the live airing. I watched through the scene once then went back to see the outside shots of the cabin/lake area and I'm almost positive that it's the same. Especially since the show is filmed in British Columbia.

It definitely is, goodness knows how many times I've been there now, it's in a North Vancouver park and a nice place to wander around too. It's been used a lot in different shows and very recognisable now! :D

The town of Storybrooke is the same place SG-1's 'Nightwalkers' was filmed, the town of Steveston.

the fifth man
January 26th, 2012, 07:18 PM
It definitely is, goodness knows how many times I've been there now, it's in a North Vancouver park and a nice place to wander around too. It's been used a lot in different shows and very recognisable now! :D

The town of Storybrooke is the same place SG-1's 'Nightwalkers' was filmed, the town of Steveston.

I did not know that. Very interesting.

discodiva
January 27th, 2012, 01:58 PM
It definitely is, goodness knows how many times I've been there now, it's in a North Vancouver park and a nice place to wander around too. It's been used a lot in different shows and very recognisable now! :D

The town of Storybrooke is the same place SG-1's 'Nightwalkers' was filmed, the town of Steveston.


I am so excited....I've just seen an advert for "Once Upon A Time" which will be starting on Channel 5 soon in the UK!!...I've avoided all spoilers for this, apart from some great promo shots from Andreas and cannot wait to see it.....don't know when it's coming but it's coming at last!!!..:D :D :D


Cannot wait to play "spot the location" again and see RC at his finest again...:P


Deeds xx

ColonelCarter
January 28th, 2012, 02:48 PM
It definitely is, goodness knows how many times I've been there now, it's in a North Vancouver park and a nice place to wander around too. It's been used a lot in different shows and very recognisable now! :D

The town of Storybrooke is the same place SG-1's 'Nightwalkers' was filmed, the town of Steveston.

I also did not notice that it was the same town from Nightwalkers. Thanks for the info!

Ogler
January 29th, 2012, 06:06 PM
That was a great episode!
I wonder what the writer wants with Henry's book?

tomstone
January 29th, 2012, 07:48 PM
That was a great episode!
I wonder what the writer wants with Henry's book?

Indeed it was. Regina gets me every time. In each Episode I think there may just be some feelings in her after all just for her to do this stuff.
More importantly, how did he find it? Who told him about the Book and who has it? If that guy is really from the Real World then Storybrooke must have some story itself.

It would be fun if he had a Book on his own which acts like the Endless Story. Adding contents itself as Storybrooke changes. :)

SGalisa
January 29th, 2012, 08:28 PM
Indeed it was. Regina gets me every time. In each Episode I think there may just be some feelings in her after all just for her to do this stuff.
More importantly, how did he find it? Who told him about the Book and who has it? If that guy is really from the Real World then Storybrooke must have some story itself.

It would be fun if he had a Book on his own which acts like the Endless Story. Adding contents itself as Storybrooke changes. :)

yeah, Regina seems to always surprise the viewer. The evil queen is a good actress -- in order to be so connivingly evil, she's a good con-artist, thus never to be fully trusted. :eek:

As for
the missing fairytale book, I had a feeling it was "the writer" who took it.. for *stuff* just as he said to Henry
:D

Next week has one of my favorite people in it!
adorable petite Emilie de Ravin :)
She's the *beauty*.
I was surprised in the preview that Rumpelstiltskin is the beast!
But I do hope the advertisement is just misleading in its ending comment -- that he is truly a monster (monster at heart implied)

tomstone
January 29th, 2012, 10:22 PM
yeah, Regina seems to always surprise the viewer. The evil queen is a good actress -- in order to be so connivingly evil, she's a good con-artist, thus never to be fully trusted. :eek:

As for
the missing fairytale book, I had a feeling it was "the writer" who took it.. for *stuff* just as he said to Henry
:D

Next week has one of my favorite people in it!
adorable petite Emilie de Ravin :)
She's the *beauty*.
I was surprised in the preview that Rumpelstiltskin is the beast!
But I do hope the advertisement is just misleading in its ending comment -- that he is truly a monster (monster at heart implied)

For the Writer
It was quite convinient that he found it. He could have followed Emma or Henry to that place and seen that they where hiding something, but it is just to much of a leap to follow them for a stranger who just came into town. He knew for some reason. Regina?

And for next weeks Episode
We are talking about Rumpel here. If he is involved, a deal is made. He cant be the Beast, because he doesnt fit the Story at all.

teyla-nick94
January 30th, 2012, 06:56 AM
I just watchet the latest episode.

1. The Genie killed Snow's father? For Regina??? How blind was that man? Love really makes blind.
2. Who is the writer? He is suspicous. I like him :)
3. So, again, I could totally freak out about Regina. She always gets away with everything. Maybe Gold wouldn't be a bad idea of help for Emma? He is dangerous and powerful....

teyla-nick94
January 30th, 2012, 07:00 AM
The next episode:

So, Rumpel is the Beast? As much as I like this thought I think tomstone is right. There has to be a deal about it. But still...I'm sure the next episode will be amazing. He deserves love - like everyone. But obviously it didn't work. Who knows what the EQ did to prevent Rumpel to find happiness.
And who was the one Gold captured and hit? Oh well, that's gonna be very interesting :)

fumblesmcstupid
January 30th, 2012, 10:11 AM
Regina reminds me of a mobster. She has enough of a "GOOD" front to show the townspeople that she is only thinking of them and has their best interest in at heart (snicker). Then there is her true face which Henry and Emma only get to see. I am in awe of her duplicity!

jelgate
January 30th, 2012, 12:44 PM
We have a 3.4 18-49 demo with10.781 million viewers


http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/01/30/tv-ratings-sunday-pro-bowl-prelims-down-still-leads-nbc-win-once-upon-a-time-good-wife-rise-as-fox-animated-comedies-miss-tebow/117929/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Tvbythenumbers+%28TVbytheNumbers%29

MylittleEli
January 30th, 2012, 01:13 PM
Ok this is a little sidetracked but I find it funny to think about....

I live and work in Steveston, aka Storybrook, so the show is a common topic between business owners, residents and visitors coming in to town.

Anyways... when OUAT first started airing, one of the other business owners came in for something and asked me if I liked the show. Then she tried to tell me that she thought the show was boring and that all the reviews said the show was awful and would be cancelled after only a few episodes. I tried to tell that she wasn't reading what most ppl were saying and tried to explain that fans of the genre were LOVING the show. She swore she "knew" things other didn't since she "knew ppl in the tv business"and I would see soon enough the show was doomed.

Wonder is she feels like an ass now?!

jelgate
January 30th, 2012, 01:17 PM
Rule #3 is never trust the reviewers. Reviewers said Lone Star was well written and going to be a hit. The ratings were terrible and Fox cancelled it after 2 episodes. Reviewers hated the 90s sitcom Home Improvement which ran for 8 seasons

TheRandomOne
January 30th, 2012, 01:57 PM
Is Robert getting paid extra checks for all of these villains he is replacing ? I want Rumpelstiltskin to replace Regina / Evil Queen for an episode. Yes lets make him the bad guy every time

His back story made him sympathetic & his deals already make each characters lives a living hell. Why does he have to be super over used ?

Krisz
January 30th, 2012, 11:25 PM
Ok this is a little sidetracked but I find it funny to think about....

I live and work in Steveston, aka Storybrook, so the show is a common topic between business owners, residents and visitors coming in to town.

Anyways... when OUAT first started airing, one of the other business owners came in for something and asked me if I liked the show. Then she tried to tell me that she thought the show was boring and that all the reviews said the show was awful and would be cancelled after only a few episodes. I tried to tell that she wasn't reading what most ppl were saying and tried to explain that fans of the genre were LOVING the show. She swore she "knew" things other didn't since she "knew ppl in the tv business"and I would see soon enough the show was doomed.

Wonder is she feels like an ass now?!

It's weird how some people will just stick to their initial thought and not budge. If I'd stuck to my initial thoughts about this show I would not be enjoying it now. I always give things I'm not sure about a good chance. I would have missed some great shows if I hadn't! :)

For those interested in locations, the Storybrooke 'Town Hall' where Regina plots and schemes, is not in Steveston, the Community Hall in Fort Langley plays that part for the exterior and some interior shots. Her palatial office with the wonderful 'dark forest' mural on its walls is a set built in Bridge Studios.

http://www.itsmysite.com/cgi-bin/itsmy/go.exe?page=46&domain=1&webdir=fortlangley

I'm getting a bit impatient to know....

...who the stranger/writer is! What is going to happen now, now that the storybook is in his hands?

Goodness, that genii is nuts!!! He still does everything Regina asks,despite the fact she's not interested in him! Love is truly blind here, scary. Nice twist though, he was so likeable before being smitten by the love bug!!!

Skydiver
January 31st, 2012, 04:08 AM
I think the writer

like someone has suggested, he wrote the book, and now that Emma is there he's going to rewrite it. It'll show up back where Henry can find it....but pages will be restored but changed and Emma will be in it, and will possibly reveal emma's true identity.

either that or it's going to introduce a new 'big bad' and just as they take Regina down, they need her and they all have to rally together against this new big bad

jeri
January 31st, 2012, 08:26 AM
Rule #3 is never trust the reviewers. Reviewers said Lone Star was well written and going to be a hit. The ratings were terrible and Fox cancelled it after 2 episodes. Reviewers hated the 90s sitcom Home Improvement which ran for 8 seasons
Got to agree with you there, I usually love things that reviewers hate, and vice versa.

Can't imagine where they're going with the writer. They have made some huge deviations from original fairy tales, so who knows? Maybe Skydiver's got something, he's going to rewrite the book. Or maybe he's just a writer who heard of this strange little town, and he's looking for a new idea for a TV show, and he's a parody of this show's creators. :D

ZRFTS
January 31st, 2012, 10:07 AM
Can't imagine where they're going with the writer. They have made some huge deviations from original fairy tales, so who knows? Maybe Skydiver's got something, he's going to rewrite the book. Or maybe he's just a writer who heard of this strange little town, and he's looking for a new idea for a TV show, and he's a parody of this show's creators. :D

The writer sounds creepy... But my interpretation of him is that he's going to play a really big part; whether it's helping them find their happy endings or helping the evil queen, he does have a big part.

tomstone
January 31st, 2012, 04:09 PM
The writer sounds creepy... But my interpretation of him is that he's going to play a really big part; whether it's helping them find their happy endings or helping the evil queen, he does have a big part.

I think the question we are all asking ourselfs is, if he really does not belong to Storybrooke. We dont know enough to make assumptions, but Henry made clear that Outsiders dont come to Storybrooke. So I keep thinking about some story that I might have forgotten where someone loved to write, but in my memory there is none. I guess we will have to wait and see, but I dont think he is with Regina. Simply because she was honestly concerned when she saw him talking to Henry.

That could be her con-artist being again, but she reacted in a way that kind of said "Who is he talking too? I dont know him"

Just another option that I will put in Spoiler Tag, just to be sure I dont Spoil.
I keep thinking that he really might be Rumpels Son, but I cant put the Puzzle together. Guessing that Rumpels Son joined the Fight in Fairy Tale World and after the transfer to our World got sent to some Warzone in our World, he could have found his way there, but why does he know stuff he shouldnt?

As said, for the short time after he arrived, he took the Book from a hidden Place just at the right time. As I said he probably is not with Regina, so how did he know who to follow or where to look? Someone or Something is guiding him.

fems
February 1st, 2012, 01:59 AM
I think the question we are all asking ourselfs is, if he really does not belong to Storybrooke. We dont know enough to make assumptions, but Henry made clear that Outsiders dont come to Storybrooke. So I keep thinking about some story that I might have forgotten where someone loved to write, but in my memory there is none. I guess we will have to wait and see, but I dont think he is with Regina. Simply because she was honestly concerned when she saw him talking to Henry.

That could be her con-artist being again, but she reacted in a way that kind of said "Who is he talking too? I dont know him"

Just another option that I will put in Spoiler Tag, just to be sure I dont Spoil.
I keep thinking that he really might be Rumpels Son, but I cant put the Puzzle together. Guessing that Rumpels Son joined the Fight in Fairy Tale World and after the transfer to our World got sent to some Warzone in our World, he could have found his way there, but why does he know stuff he shouldnt?

As said, for the short time after he arrived, he took the Book from a hidden Place just at the right time. As I said he probably is not with Regina, so how did he know who to follow or where to look? Someone or Something is guiding him.

But people also aren't allowed to leave Storybrook, so the writer has to be an outsider like Emma otherwise he could have never left in the first place. Plus, how could he have left if the time was still standing still back then?

tomstone
February 1st, 2012, 02:31 AM
But people also aren't allowed to leave Storybrook, so the writer has to be an outsider like Emma otherwise he could have never left in the first place. Plus, how could he have left if the time was still standing still back then?

Time wasnt standing still. When Emma first got to Storybrooke everybody was just going about their Daily Routine. They just never noticed these things like Henry did as Outsider.

There would be no need to leave Storybrooke if the Curse placed him somewhere outside in the first place.

teyla-nick94
February 1st, 2012, 08:41 AM
I think the question we are all asking ourselfs is, if he really does not belong to Storybrooke. We dont know enough to make assumptions, but Henry made clear that Outsiders dont come to Storybrooke. So I keep thinking about some story that I might have forgotten where someone loved to write, but in my memory there is none. I guess we will have to wait and see, but I dont think he is with Regina. Simply because she was honestly concerned when she saw him talking to Henry.

That could be her con-artist being again, but she reacted in a way that kind of said "Who is he talking too? I dont know him"

Just another option that I will put in Spoiler Tag, just to be sure I dont Spoil.
I keep thinking that he really might be Rumpels Son, but I cant put the Puzzle together. Guessing that Rumpels Son joined the Fight in Fairy Tale World and after the transfer to our World got sent to some Warzone in our World, he could have found his way there, but why does he know stuff he shouldnt?

As said, for the short time after he arrived, he took the Book from a hidden Place just at the right time. As I said he probably is not with Regina, so how did he know who to follow or where to look? Someone or Something is guiding him.

I'm also saying that he is his son. And maybe an explanation: We don't know yet what happened to Bae after the incident in the village. Maybe he ran away? Something bad must have happened to Rumpel (despite the going-mad-thing). Maybe he lost his son? Or he thinks he did? That he couldn't find him anymore? I'm curious about what would happen if Gold saw the stranger? There was no scene about this yet, was it?
But who could the stranger be, despite the few aspects? The writer of the book or Rumpels son. Is there any other explanation? I don't know and I can't think of a fairy tale with someone who might be the stranger in Storybrook

tomstone
February 1st, 2012, 03:18 PM
I'm also saying that he is his son. And maybe an explanation: We don't know yet what happened to Bae after the incident in the village. Maybe he ran away? Something bad must have happened to Rumpel (despite the going-mad-thing). Maybe he lost his son? Or he thinks he did? That he couldn't find him anymore? I'm curious about what would happen if Gold saw the stranger? There was no scene about this yet, was it?
But who could the stranger be, despite the few aspects? The writer of the book or Rumpels son. Is there any other explanation? I don't know and I can't think of a fairy tale with someone who might be the stranger in Storybrook

I was wondering about that too, but so far there was no such scene and somehow I would expect Mr. Gold to be at least up-to-date.
Just thinking, but for him to grow up, he must have been unaffacted by the curse. It is hard to say how much time passed between Rumpels transformation and the curse, but that guy seems pretty much the same age as Emma. It would be a nice twist if Rumpels Son found the way to our World before the Curse was used.

Skydiver
February 1st, 2012, 07:04 PM
unless

the son went off to war to get away from dad so he was outside of storybrooke when the whole curse thing happened. after all, emma grew up outside of the 'bubble'

Sp!der
February 2nd, 2012, 02:49 AM
So everyone likes this?

fems
February 2nd, 2012, 02:51 AM
unless

the son went off to war to get away from dad so he was outside of storybrooke when the whole curse thing happened. after all, emma grew up outside of the 'bubble'

But then he would be about what, ten years older than Emma? And they look to be about the same age.

Skydiver
February 2nd, 2012, 03:49 AM
ah, but if the goal is to eventually generate a ship between him and emma maybe they cast for looks and not age appearance?

and no one in storybrooke looks their 'age' anyway. Red Riding hood for example, usually portrayed in books as a kid not a woman.

fems
February 2nd, 2012, 03:51 AM
Well yeah, but we've already seen Rumple's kid in the show so we know how old he's supposed to be.

tomstone
February 2nd, 2012, 09:41 AM
Well yeah, but we've already seen Rumple's kid in the show so we know how old he's supposed to be.

It was his 14th Birthday when Rumpel changed. So if the Curse was inacted the same Year, then he would be about 39.

teyla-nick94
February 2nd, 2012, 11:31 AM
It was his 14th Birthday when Rumpel changed. So if the Curse was inacted the same Year, then he would be about 39.

Well, he certainly doesn't look like 39

MylittleEli
February 2nd, 2012, 11:38 AM
Well, he certainly doesn't look like 39

The actor playing the stranger/writer is actually pretty close to 39... he is 35.

jelgate
February 2nd, 2012, 01:28 PM
Well, he certainly doesn't look like 39

Snow doesn't look like the age to be Henry's grandmother but she is. Aging does not seem to apply in Storybroke. I don't believe the writer is Rumplestilskin son beacause all of the fairy world characters go Storybroke when the curse was unleashed

Skydiver
February 2nd, 2012, 03:11 PM
snow certainly doesn't look to be aged right to be emma's mother, same wtih charming so....I'd say age is no issue.

fems
February 2nd, 2012, 03:22 PM
They are all still the same age as they were in the fairy tale world because time was frozen in Storybrook, until Emma came along. Remember the clock? Therefore,

if the writer is Rumpel's son who somehow didn't end up in Storybrook when the curse was executed, he would have aged naturally all this time and would thus be Emma's age+14 years. The only way for the writer not to end up in Storybrook is if he'd been put in a similar 'closet' as baby Emma and I highly doubt that. As we know from Henry no one of the original inhabitants can leave Storybrook without something bad happening, which usually means something that literally prevents them from leaving (like accidents and car trouble). So the writer couldn't have been in Storybrook when the curse went into effect and then leave only to come back now.

I don't think he's Rumpel's kid though. I was under the impression something had happened to the boy (I thought death, but after the ep perhaps he just left and never saw Rumpel again) and that's the reason why Rumpel wants everyone's first born when he makes a deal with them.

Ian-S
February 2nd, 2012, 05:22 PM
My first thought about the writer was he was

the big bad wolf

especially considering the very next episode Red Riding Hood was introduced for an aparant throw away scene any fairy tail red-shirt could have been cast in.

I might be wrong, but has the writer actually said he is a visitor, or has he just not corrected a wrong assumption? after all

the red riding hood stories are based on a dishonest stranger, i.e. the wolf, and someone dishonest may not necessarily jump in and correct someone if they jumped to the wrong conclusion, like Gold does.

Of course this doesn't explain the issue with the original inhabitants not being able to leave, but then if he was the (read-spoiler), then he may not may not have been in the kingdom at the time the curse was acted (off hunting?), sending him somewhere else in "our world".

Easter Lily
February 3rd, 2012, 01:34 AM
AH... I thought that there would be thread of this show here on GW.

In short, I like it... I like the premise and I like the female characters.
Evil Queen reminds me of witch in Tin Man.

I like Jennifer Morrison here more than I ever liked her in House.
Robert Carlyle turns in his usual reliable perfomance.

I['ve only seen two epsiodes but will keep watching...

tomstone
February 3rd, 2012, 08:21 AM
AH... I thought that there would be thread of this show here on GW.

In short, I like it... I like the premise and I like the female characters.
Evil Queen reminds me of witch in Tin Man.

I like Jennifer Morrison here more than I ever liked her in House.
Robert Carlyle turns in his usual reliable perfomance.

I['ve only seen two epsiodes but will keep watching...

Welcome to the Wonderful World of Fairy Tales. To be honest, I am not sure if I could maintain a straight face when talking about this Series with someone. Its Kingdom Hearts all over again. :D

nebulan
February 3rd, 2012, 12:54 PM
jumping in with some thoughts:



I really want to see more of this show, but if Regina keeps getting the upper hand all the time, I'm gonna get too frustrated to keep watching (I couldn't stand SGU, too angsty, lol!)... I want the heroes to get SOMETHING occasionally. This last episode, the only comfort we got that our heroes weren't all doomed was that the writer got the book instead of Regina.

Red Riding Hood in the Once Upon A Time world is supposed to be a young adult, presumably after dealing with the wolf, she gained knowledge and experience and eventually became prominent to be on Snow and James' war council. But it's possible she matured and such after Snow's incident with the poison apple and marriage to James. The Red we saw in the episode where Show met the dwarves might have been younger, but then, Snow was supposed to younger too. I think these young adults are playing teenagers and are just having to do the best they can at playing young and asking for some imagination from the audience, lol. I think it's better than pulling in a younger actor and making us think "wait, so who is this again?" Just like for Jiminey's flashback... if he was supposed to be younger, how young? We saw the little kid at the beginning, but how old exactly was he when he left his parents? I guess I have known some early twenties guys with the same hairline. But why would his hairline still be the same in Storybrooke? Oh oh, I know, the curse restored him to the state he was before he became the cricket! (Off topic but I totally love Raphael Sbarage... I wish they could find ways to get him in more episodes.) Tho I did read somewhere that they're going to get a younger snow white for one of the flashbacks.

Anyone like to look around the OnceUponATime Wikia? I'm irritated no one has updated Grumpy's page yet, lol. Someone totally needs to make a timeline and put the flashbacks in order!!

My sister and I have come to call the writer "Grimm" tho "Hans Christian Anderson" would probably also be fitting.

So... what items have we seen in Gold's pawn shop? I remember seeing the Arabian lamp an episode or two before the Genie's episode. My sister was like: Oh, so they'll do more than classic European fairy tales?" my response was "Well, they'll at least do everything Disney has done because even the princess' outfits look like the Disney version!" (and then I showed her the promo picture of Belle in the gold dress, lol)

I can't wait to see Snow getting to know the other dwarves.

Did anyone else get the "I want to be free" music from Disney's Aladdin during Genie's talk with the king?

SGalisa
February 3rd, 2012, 06:32 PM
Snow doesn't look like the age to be Henry's grandmother but she is. Aging does not seem to apply in Storybroke. I don't believe the writer is Rumplestilskin son beacause all of the fairy world characters go Storybroke when the curse was unleashed


They are all still the same age as they were in the fairy tale world because time was frozen in Storybrook, until Emma came along. Remember the clock?...

One tiny detail I think that has been forgotten about regarding this *age* thing, is very simple.
When Hansel and Gretel appeared in both fairytale land AND the real world -- they were both the same age in both worlds. That should solve the question of aging for everyone else (except those living outside of fairytale land). ;)

As for the writer's age being near 40 or possibly younger, there *are* some folks who age very nicely and at the age of 40 only look like they are 30-something (up to ten years younger). Key ingredient is in the skin tone (is it soft and supple or showing signs of withering / full of wrinkles?) :D

tomstone
February 4th, 2012, 02:32 PM
One tiny detail I think that has been forgotten about regarding this *age* thing, is very simple.
When Hansel and Gretel appeared in both fairytale land AND the real world -- they were both the same age in both worlds. That should solve the question of aging for everyone else (except those living outside of fairytale land). ;)

As for the writer's age being near 40 or possibly younger, there *are* some folks who age very nicely and at the age of 40 only look like they are 30-something (up to ten years younger). Key ingredient is in the skin tone (is it soft and supple or showing signs of withering / full of wrinkles?) :D

Thing is that many are afraid to open the Spoilers, while I for example just use them to discuss stuff that others may not know from the most recent Episodes. We already established that the Curse has its effects, but there are different exceptions to it and the Writer seems to be one of these exceptions. So we are just trying to figure out how he could be different from the rest before the Episodes get to it. Its just Theories.

SGalisa
February 4th, 2012, 05:06 PM
Quoting previous info in spoilers for space :)



I think the question we are all asking ourselfs is, if he really does not belong to Storybrooke. We dont know enough to make assumptions, but Henry made clear that Outsiders dont come to Storybrooke. So I keep thinking about some story that I might have forgotten where someone loved to write, but in my memory there is none. I guess we will have to wait and see, but I dont think he is with Regina. Simply because she was honestly concerned when she saw him talking to Henry.

That could be her con-artist being again, but she reacted in a way that kind of said "Who is he talking too? I dont know him"

Just another option that I will put in Spoiler Tag, just to be sure I dont Spoil.
I keep thinking that he really might be Rumpels Son, but I cant put the Puzzle together. Guessing that Rumpels Son joined the Fight in Fairy Tale World and after the transfer to our World got sent to some Warzone in our World, he could have found his way there, but why does he know stuff he shouldnt?

As said, for the short time after he arrived, he took the Book from a hidden Place just at the right time. As I said he probably is not with Regina, so how did he know who to follow or where to look? Someone or Something is guiding him.

and if Rumplestilskin's son went off to war at the age of 13 or 14
and was allowed to exist for years and years outside of fairytale land's curse zone... I'm not sure the theory would fly if Rumplestilskin's son is really older than he would appear. Besides, the hair coloring and texture of the writer (light brown) is definitely different than Rumplestilskin's son's (nearly blackish brown) hair was.
therefore, continuing with the swirling speculations... ;)


But then he would be about what, ten years older than Emma? And they look to be about the same age.

well...


One tiny detail I think that has been forgotten about regarding this *age* thing, is very simple.
When Hansel and Gretel appeared in both fairytale land AND the real world -- they were both the same age in both worlds. That should solve the question of aging for everyone else (except those living outside of fairytale land). ;)

As for the writer's age being near 40 or possibly younger, there *are* some folks who age very nicely and at the age of 40 only look like they are 30-something (up to ten years younger). Key ingredient is in the skin tone (is it soft and supple or showing signs of withering / full of wrinkles?) :D


Thing is that many are afraid to open the Spoilers, while I for example just use them to discuss stuff that others may not know from the most recent Episodes. We already established that the Curse has its effects, but there are different exceptions to it and the Writer seems to be one of these exceptions. So we are just trying to figure out how he could be different from the rest before the Episodes get to it. Its just Theories.

Since I do not have time to invest more into these conversations, I thought I'd just shed some light on the aging process and how it shows up on some people. I know people who are heavy smokers and appear to look 40-ish by the time they are 30 years old. In the other extreme, a non-smoker who has taken as good care of their skin as much as possible can actually be 40 and yet appear to look a young 30-ish.

{edit}Key to good (anti-aging) skin tone is mostly how well a person takes care of themself (whether they smoke or not.. one of my sisters was a heavy smoker and dedicated sun-tanner.. her skin withered badly into wrinkles before she was 30). That is often how some actors used to be picked for their roles, and why a 26 year old can play a 17-year old (a Roswell Tv actor did just that -- not sure if he smoked or not, but his age range was broad. Hair styles also help, too). ;)


As for my own theories on why the writer can come from the outside and enter, aside from Henry's idea that Emma is changing history --- the writer is --- (drum roll!!=)
exactly who he says he is -- a Writer! (Surprise!) :)
I used to have the same typewriter type he showed up with, except mine was black. His is brown. The only magic his typewriter has (which I believe it is an ancient manual version!) is that he probably has the ability to type on it with all ten fingers. I was a 2 or 3 fingered typist -- 4 or 6 including both hands... :D

The reason why he can come and go at will within Storybrooke, is most likely because HE is directly connected to the fairytales, but that's because *he* WROTE them, himself. Maybe all of these stories, including the real world, are actually events occurring within his (the writer's) own mind or imagination, or dream sleep. ;)

Why he took Henry's book, maybe he followed Henry -- or maybe the writer just knew Henry hid it, simply because the writer is the writer of the stories (ALL of them, real world too), and therefore knew the details on what is where, etc.

Also, if anything *bad* might ever happen to the writer guy, himself, maybe it's because he is dreaming / imagining it in his real world, which is really somewhere else -- not Storybrooke at all. The folks he sees are all friends, neighbors, acquaintances, etc., sort of like what Dorothy experienced in the original Wizard of Oz (1939 movie version).

:D Hope that made sense.

tomstone
February 4th, 2012, 05:57 PM
Quoting previous info in spoilers for space :)




and if Rumplestilskin's son went off to war at the age of 13 or 14
and was allowed to exist for years and years outside of fairytale land's curse zone... I'm not sure the theory would fly if Rumplestilskin's son is really older than he would appear. Besides, the hair coloring and texture of the writer (light brown) is definitely different than Rumplestilskin's son's (nearly blackish brown) hair was.
therefore, continuing with the swirling speculations... ;)



well...





Since I do not have time to invest more into these conversations, I thought I'd just shed some light on the aging process and how it shows up on some people. I know people who are heavy smokers and appear to look 40-ish by the time they are 30 years old. In the other extreme, a non-smoker who has taken as good care of their skin as much as possible can actually be 40 and yet appear to look a young 30-ish. That is often how some actors used to be picked for their roles, and why a 26 year old can play a 17-year old (a Roswell Tv actor did just that). ;)


As for my own theories on why the writer can come from the outside and enter, aside from Henry's idea that Emma is changing history --- the writer is --- (drum roll!!=)
exactly who he says he is -- a Writer! (Surprise!) :)
I used to have the same typewriter type he showed up with, except mine was black. His is brown. The only magic his typewriter has (which I believe it is an ancient manual version!) is that he probably has the ability to type on it with all ten fingers. I was a 2 or 3 fingered typist -- 4 or 6 including both hands... :D

The reason why he can come and go at will within Storybrooke, is most likely because HE is directly connected to the fairytales, but that's because *he* WROTE them, himself. Maybe all of these stories, including the real world, are actually events occurring within his (the writer's) own mind or imagination, or dream sleep. ;)

Why he took Henry's book, maybe he followed Henry -- or maybe the writer just knew Henry hid it, simply because the writer is the writer of the stories (ALL of them, real world too), and therefore knew the details on what is where, etc.

Also, if anything *bad* might ever happen to the writer guy, himself, maybe it's because he is dreaming / imagining it in his real world, which is really somewhere else -- not Storybrooke at all. The folks he sees are all friends, neighbors, acquaintances, etc., sort of like what Dorothy experienced in the original Wizard of Oz (1939 movie version).

:D Hope that made sense.

Lol, yeah it makes perfect sense. :D
That sounds more or less like the route Lost took. I never really understood the ending, I just felt screwed.

SGalisa
February 4th, 2012, 06:25 PM
Lol, yeah it makes perfect sense. :D
That sounds more or less like the route Lost took. I never really understood the ending, I just felt screwed.

reply... ;)
just gotta remember this series is being done by the same writers of LOST, so it's possible they may take a similar route. Maybe the writer guy is in a coma and imagining all of this, which is why he could be both the writer of Henry's fairytale book and the writer guy in Storybrooke's so called real-world.

Whatever the situation is, it doesn't bother me if the actual writers to this series is taking a Dorothy --Wizard of Oz-- hit on the head from the tornado route.. Ooooo! The curse began with a tornado like effect, too... hmmm.. a possible clue?

Personally, I like reading the actual Storybrooke secrets (parallels to each character and world they live within) on the ABC web site, as well as the connections to hidden details on the IMDb site for this series. What drives me crazy is the amount of endless comments into a million different directions about who is who, etc., and why. That's why I really don't want to get too ensconced with too much commenting of my own in here.

I'd rather you all run with your ideas and let the actual Tv show live itself out. :)
To me, it's just mindless (fantasy) entertainment (sometimes with lavish sets / costumes) filling in an hour of my week with something to escape from my own (horrid) real world with. :D

BTW, my sister, who talked me into watching this series, also agrees 100% with my theory on who the writer guy is. ;) :D

VampyreWraith
February 4th, 2012, 08:59 PM
^I was thinking about the writer, and I agree with those who think that he is actually a writer, but I don't think that everything is in his head(because I really don't want it to be in his head lol, but it could be). I think he wrote Henry's book, and that he either wrote, or inspired others to write, the fairy tales in the real world, based on things he'd seen in the fairy tale world.
He could have found a way between the two worlds(maybe with the help of someone in the Fairy Tale world?) when he was a child(a long time ago in the real world). Maybe time passed differently in both worlds(kind of like in Narnia, but maybe here, time in the real world moves faster than the fairy tale world). He could have been in his mid to late teens the last time he was in the fairy tale world(he looks like he could be in his late 30's early 40's now, to me), he heard about the curse and left(leaving his/Henery's book behind) before it(the curse) reached him. He could have come out at the around the same time, but not the same place as baby Emma.
Maybe he came to Storybrook now because Emma's there and he couldn't until she got things moving again. He said(?or implies) he's been there before, but no one seems to know him, so that makes me think that the last time he was in Storybrook was before the curse.
I don't know lol, that's all I could come up with to try to explain the writer/visitor, his interest in the book, and some fairy tales in the real world; and it probably doesn't make much sense. :P. I'm really looking forward to finding out what happens next on this show. :)

tomstone
February 4th, 2012, 09:17 PM
^I was thinking about the writer, and I agree with those who think that he is actually a writer, but I don't think that everything is in his head(because I really don't want it to be in his head lol, but it could be). I think he wrote Henry's book, and that he either wrote, or inspired others to write, the fairy tales in the real world, based on things he'd seen in the fairy tale world.
He could have found a way between the two worlds(maybe with the help of someone in the Fairy Tale world?) when he was a child(a long time ago in the real world). Maybe time passed differently in both worlds(kind of like in Narnia, but maybe here, time in the real world moves faster than the fairy tale world). He could have been in his mid to late teens the last time he was in the fairy tale world(he looks like he could be in his late 30's early 40's now, to me), he heard about the curse and left(leaving his/Henery's book behind) before it(the curse) reached him. He could have come out at the around the same time, but not the same place as baby Emma.
Maybe he came to Storybrook now because Emma's there and he couldn't until she got things moving again. He said(?or implies) he's been there before, but no one seems to know him, so that makes me think that the last time he was in Storybrook was before the curse.
I don't know lol, that's all I could come up with to try to explain the writer/visitor, his interest in the book, and some fairy tales in the real world; and it probably doesn't make much sense. :P. I'm really looking forward to finding out what happens next on this show. :)

There is just one problem with the Book. Its to detailed including Pictures to be written by someone. The Writer would have had to write that book after the Curse happened. I was always under the Impression that the Book is somewhat a byproduct created by the Curse.

VampyreWraith
February 4th, 2012, 09:36 PM
There is just one problem with the Book. Its to detailed including Pictures to be written by someone. The Writer would have had to write that book after the Curse happened. I was always under the Impression that the Book is somewhat a byproduct created by the Curse.

That's true I guess, unless he was an amazing artist and writer at a young age or had some kind of aid in writing it. Before the writer showed up, I'd also thought that the book was connected to the curse, and that maybe Mr Gold/Rumplestiltskin had something to do with its creation(but not that he wrote it). I was just trying to link(too many) things together I guess lol.

Skydiver
February 5th, 2012, 07:31 AM
There is just one problem with the Book. Its to detailed including Pictures to be written by someone. The Writer would have had to write that book after the Curse happened. I was always under the Impression that the Book is somewhat a byproduct created by the Curse.

Then it's possible that 'the stranger' is the writer of the book, and that person is some sort of observer, court scribe, servant that saw it all, something like that.

Ian-S
February 5th, 2012, 05:04 PM
He's an Observer from the Fringe universe!

Busted :lol:

fumblesmcstupid
February 5th, 2012, 05:08 PM
:jack_new_anime07:

denis565
February 5th, 2012, 05:20 PM
hey everyone! I'm new here :)
Didn't get to read all of you're posts yet, but I will (I did last and first three)
I started watching show in december...and got adicted :D
I don't know how to make that thing that hides spoilers so I'm just gona say: WARNING, SPOILER ALERT XD
I believe that the writer is actually the writer of the book, or someone who knew the real writer (less likely); I don't know is he good or evil, but I doubt he is any of that, you know? One of those in middle who are not on anyone side- yet

fumblesmcstupid
February 5th, 2012, 05:54 PM
Maybe he is one of the Grimm Brothers? Seeing how they adapted a lot of the fairy tales to the stories we know and love. My two cents worth.

MylittleEli
February 5th, 2012, 10:32 PM
hey everyone! I'm new here :)
Didn't get to read all of you're posts yet, but I will (I did last and first three)
I started watching show in december...and got adicted :D
I don't know how to make that thing that hides spoilers so I'm just gona say: WARNING, SPOILER ALERT XD
I believe that the writer is actually the writer of the book, or someone who knew the real writer (less likely); I don't know is he good or evil, but I doubt he is any of that, you know? One of those in middle who are not on anyone side- yet

Welcome to the thread and GW!

denis565
February 6th, 2012, 04:44 AM
Welcome to the thread and GW!

Thank you :)
In my country no one is watching this show yet, so good to be here and be able to talk about it

tomstone
February 6th, 2012, 09:57 AM
Maybe he is one of the Grimm Brothers? Seeing how they adapted a lot of the fairy tales to the stories we know and love. My two cents worth.

Thats the thing I was kind of afraid off ever since OUAT and Grimm started. Its just that the Book is 26 Years old at its best. The Stories where around much longer than that. Some of them are from the Grimms, a conclusion would be that the Grimms got there at some time and brought back these Stories, but they all have their happy end. As if these events are in a endless loop.

At least so far it seems that the rest of their reality is like ours where everyone knows these Fairy Tales, but noone believes they are actually true.

jeri
February 6th, 2012, 09:59 AM
I have to stick with my original theory that the writer is a reference to Stephen King who lives in Maine and writes on an old typewriter. These are the guys from Lost, where everything has some connection or reference to something. Quite a joke.:D As to what the writer will do, who knows?
When the curse stopped time, everyone was effected, except Henry. Now I wonder if there are children born in Storybrooke since, and they would not be affected, based on Henry not being effected and aging normally. Of coarse as Henry is only 10 years old, he may only now be becoming aware of the strangeness of his town. Mary Margret giving him the book at this point. Would he have noticed before if he was the only child aging in town?

jeri
February 6th, 2012, 10:03 AM
Another thing that some of you younger folks may be missing, is that so much of the props, cars, clothes, and such are much older styles. You know I remember when Mr. Gold's ties and shirt colors were the new thing. For younger folks, everything old is new again. :P

tomstone
February 6th, 2012, 10:12 AM
I have to stick with my original theory that the writer is a reference to Stephen King who lives in Maine and writes on an old typewriter. These are the guys from Lost, where everything has some connection or reference to something. Quite a joke.:D As to what the writer will do, who knows?
When the curse stopped time, everyone was effected, except Henry. Now I wonder if there are children born in Storybrooke since, and they would not be affected, based on Henry not being effected and aging normally. Of coarse as Henry is only 10 years old, he may only now be becoming aware of the strangeness of his town. Mary Margret giving him the book at this point. Would he have noticed before if he was the only child aging in town?

That could also be and I cant wait to see which way the Series will go with him. Though I cant stress enough that I dont want this Series to go the Lost route. I got into that Series about 3 Seasons before it ended and even I felt screwed by the end. Some come up with genius ways to look at it, for me it stays a copout for to many contradictions that where never thought through to begin with.

Henry is half outsider, with his mother being excluded from the Curse. So that makes him pretty much immune while he still belongs somewhat. A kid can accept many things when they know nothing else, just let him change classes alot and he wont notice for a long time. Maybe Henry was shaking the Curse a bit on his own and that was what made Mary give him the book.


Another thing that some of you younger folks may be missing, is that so much of the props, cars, clothes, and such are much older styles. You know I remember when Mr. Gold's ties and shirt colors were the new thing. For younger folks, everything old is new again. :P

:lol: You make even me feel old. :P

fems
February 6th, 2012, 10:23 AM
Henry wasn't born in Storybrook so of course he's unaffected by the curse. It was Gold who brought him back to the town when Regina wanted to adopt a child and asked for his help. I wonder if that's because she was unable to carry one herself (with no time passing) and knew it was because of her curse, otherwise she could have just let that sheriff or someone else knock her up.

jeri
February 6th, 2012, 10:24 AM
I'm thinking with 28 years of sitting around in Storybrooke, surely a few kids would be born. It is an interesting question, would those new children of those under the curse be effected by the curse too? I lean towards not. Or, if these people are not aging, would they even be able to have children under this curse? Maybe not. That's what is fun about these kind of shows, all the speculation. :)
{edit}Right fems, how could they have kids if no one ages? So how long was poor Ashley pregnant anyway? 28 years!!! OMG! Good thing she was unaware of that!

fems
February 6th, 2012, 10:26 AM
No, because that one girl... what's her name again, the pregnant one seemed to have been pregnant from before the curse, back in the fairy tale world.

tomstone
February 6th, 2012, 10:29 AM
{edit}Right fems, how could they have kids if no one ages? So how long was poor Ashley pregnant anyway? 28 years!!! OMG! Good thing she was unaware of that!

Lets just call her Cinderella. :P
OMG, I never thought of that. She must have been through hell! Imagine Henry growing up and noticing her Years before that. He will never get a woman pregnant after seeing one being pregnant for Years. :D

jeri
February 6th, 2012, 10:36 AM
Lets just call her Cinderella. :P
OMG, I never thought of that. She must have been through hell! Imagine Henry growing up and noticing her Years before that. He will never get a woman pregnant after seeing one being pregnant for Years. :D
I'm really trying NOT to imagine being pregnant for years!:P

So when Henry got the book, it all must have become suddenly clear to him. Had to be a profound moment to motivate a 10 year old to go traveling to find his mom.

tomstone
February 6th, 2012, 10:53 AM
I'm really trying NOT to imagine being pregnant for years!:P

So when Henry got the book, it all must have become suddenly clear to him. Had to be a profound moment to motivate a 10 year old to go traveling to find his mom.

I just realised that Henry found Emma through Mr. Gold. He and Regina are the only ones that know about this. So I wonder, did he make a Deal with Henry and thats why he knows so well that someone shouldn´t owe him favours?

BamBoo
February 7th, 2012, 10:24 AM
I'm thinking with 28 years of sitting around in Storybrooke, surely a few kids would be born. It is an interesting question, would those new children of those under the curse be effected by the curse too? I lean towards not. Or, if these people are not aging, would they even be able to have children under this curse? Maybe not. That's what is fun about these kind of shows, all the speculation. :)
{edit}Right fems, how could they have kids if no one ages? So how long was poor Ashley pregnant anyway? 28 years!!! OMG! Good thing she was unaware of that!


This makes me wonder that what it likes in Storybrooke before Emma is back to town. because the clock is running again when she is back. so, before that People just freeze where they are? It's been 8.15 pm for 28 years! :eek:

tomstone
February 7th, 2012, 06:03 PM
This makes me wonder that what it likes in Storybrooke before Emma is back to town. because the clock is running again when she is back. so, before that People just freeze where they are? It's been 8.15 pm for 28 years! :eek:

The Clock only started running after she got a room Key. Up to that Day everyone in Storybrooke just followed their routines and lifed a normal life besides the fact that no one aged. You can compare it to a Endless dream.

jeri
February 7th, 2012, 07:21 PM
We saw early on that Henry has a computer hooked up to the internet. That's how he tracked down Emma with using Mary Margret's credit card on a people finder site. So he had to be somewhat aware of the discrepancies between Storybrooke and the rest of the world, and getting the book made things clear to him. So however the curse works, it makes everyone effected by it somehow ignore the passage of time. tomstone's idea of an endless dream is a good analogy.
I'm waiting for Emma to start seriously asking these folks about their pasts, she will find they all have some kind of mass amnesia. LOL! :D

teyla-nick94
February 8th, 2012, 09:19 AM
I just realised that Henry found Emma through Mr. Gold. He and Regina are the only ones that know about this. So I wonder, did he make a Deal with Henry and thats why he knows so well that someone shouldn´t owe him favours?

I don't think Henry would ever make a deal with him. He is always warning Emma not to trust him. Just think of what he said, when Emma told him that Gold would be her ally and his reaction

tomstone
February 8th, 2012, 06:12 PM
I don't think Henry would ever make a deal with him. He is always warning Emma not to trust him. Just think of what he said, when Emma told him that Gold would be her ally and his reaction

Why shouldnt he make a Deal with him? He could have done it before understanding who Mr. Gold actually is.

jeri
February 8th, 2012, 09:23 PM
I noticed a little cross over word play. In season 1 of Stargate Universe (sorry can't think the ep. maybe "Earth"?) Dr. Rush fools scientists from Earth into thinking the Stargate will blow up, and says " A little theater is always nice."
In the ep of OUAT after Emma tells all at the debate, Mr. Gold comes to see her later and says almost the same thing. I need a transcript! :D With these writers, one can guess they wrote that on purpose.

mi_guard
February 9th, 2012, 02:02 AM
quickly an information for the German speaking friends

RTL has bought the rights for airing "Once Upon a Time" in Germany (they beat Pro7 on that) .... hope these are good news ..... with RTL one never knows :S

link: http://www.digitalfernsehen.de/RTL-sticht-ProSiebenSat-1-bei-Film-und-TV-Paket-von-Disney-aus.78473.0.html

BamBoo
February 9th, 2012, 07:07 AM
There are Once Upon A Time 1x12 sneak peek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0PgrJ_VKR8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCT2_o1h-xg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SJi6gNtXRc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUJq4oZzG7M&feature=watch_response

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOeHK6CU6pQ&feature=watch_response

Can not wait anymore!! :S

tomstone
February 9th, 2012, 12:12 PM
There are Once Upon A Time 1x12 sneak peek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0PgrJ_VKR8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCT2_o1h-xg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SJi6gNtXRc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUJq4oZzG7M&feature=watch_response

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOeHK6CU6pQ&feature=watch_response

Can not wait anymore!! :S

Thank you very much. Those scenes are pretty intriguing, I cannot wait either. :)

One of the funniest quotes so far:
Belle: "What are you trying to forgett?"
Rumpel: "Oh, it seems it worked" XD

jeri
February 9th, 2012, 09:46 PM
Thank you very much. Those scenes are pretty intriguing, I cannot wait either. :)

One of the funniest quotes so far:
Belle: "What are you trying to forgett?"
Rumpel: "Oh, it seems it worked" XD
Yeah, I love the dialog the Rumpy/Gold has. :D

BamBoo
February 10th, 2012, 05:14 AM
Thank you very much. Those scenes are pretty intriguing, I cannot wait either. :)

One of the funniest quotes so far:
Belle: "What are you trying to forgett?"
Rumpel: "Oh, it seems it worked" XD

Yeah, I love that scene too. adorable :P

wonder what will happen in the end? how he lost her? :S

Artemis-Neith
February 10th, 2012, 11:48 AM
A brand new sneak peek, #6:

Spoilers ahead:

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAifQB4zrLA

RJLCyberPunk
February 12th, 2012, 07:24 PM
Does anyone else besides me think that the mysterious bike rider that got into town is none other than Henry himself grown up?

Skydiver
February 12th, 2012, 07:50 PM
ooh, interesting suggestion.

this week's was interesting

so rumpy has his happily ever after, but regina is keeping it from him. Nice twist on beauty and the beast, right down to Chip

tomstone
February 12th, 2012, 08:19 PM
Finally!
I kept asking if Regina and Mr. Gold know about each other. It seems they have been playing Hide and Seek the last 26 Years. Respect for that stamina, at some point I might just have lost my cool and simply confronted him way before. If he was under the Curse as well, it would have been nothing but a hazy memory to him.

As for the Episode
I just love how they tie together the Stories quite nicely. I was always a fan of any Crossover Episode and this whole Series is a big one. Belle was just sweet and I really felt sorry for Rumpy. Though I wonder if there wasnt some truth in what he said about his powers being worth more than love to him. After all he lost his Son too and I still think he is not dead.

Do you Guys think that we can take Gold literal when he says "I am the one with the power around here"? He can force Regina to do anything by saying please. So I really wonder if Emma will be able to deny Gold his favour, but for the sake of storytelling she probably wont.

AresLover452
February 13th, 2012, 01:31 AM
The more I see of Rumpy... the more I LOVE HIM and tonights episode has made my love for his character stronger!! O_O!! Wow!! I totally want Regina to get her Karma!! lmao!

Platschu
February 13th, 2012, 03:24 AM
Regina vs. Rumpi. Their secrets are revealed finally to each other. :D

Skydiver
February 13th, 2012, 03:52 AM
one interesting thought came to me


all emma needs to do is find Regina's true love and have him, her, it kiss her and the whole thing will be fixed.

I think that Regina has the book, which is why she wanted confirmation as to who Rumpy was. She's using the book to get an advantage of who to play against whom.

Mrs. Rush
February 13th, 2012, 07:10 AM
As for the Episode
I just love how they tie together the Stories quite nicely. I was always a fan of any Crossover Episode and this whole Series is a big one. Belle was just sweet and I really felt sorry for Rumpy. Though I wonder if there wasnt some truth in what he said about his powers being worth more than love to him. After all he lost his Son too and I still think he is not dead.

Do you Guys think that we can take Gold literal when he says "I am the one with the power around here"? He can force Regina to do anything by saying please. So I really wonder if Emma will be able to deny Gold his favour, but for the sake of storytelling she probably wont.

Thoughts:
Mr. Gold has been influencing a lot of things, I think that shows he has some degree of power there. in a lot of ways I think he is playing with Regina and maybe he is ready to go back, you know?

VampyreWraith
February 13th, 2012, 07:31 AM
I really enjoyed the last night's episode(Skin Deep)loved the Belle/RumpleBeast take on Beauty and the Beast. I felt really felt bad for both of them. Also love the whole Regina vs Gold thing, I enjoy watching both characters.

Mrs. Rush
February 13th, 2012, 07:35 AM
I really enjoyed the last night's episode(Skin Deep)loved the Belle/RumpleBeast take on Beauty and the Beast. I felt really felt bad for both of them. Also love the whole Regina vs Gold thing, I enjoy watching both characters.

It really was fantastic. I actually sqweed at the end when
Mr. Gold revealed who he was to Regina

VampyreWraith
February 13th, 2012, 08:11 AM
It really was fantastic. I actually sqweed at the end when
Mr. Gold revealed who he was to Regina

Yes, that part was great :D I loved that whole scene
from the moment Regina comes in dangling Henry in front of Emma, in order to get her out of the way, so that she could talk to Gold alone. I felt a bit bad for Henry, since he was pretty much being used by Regina, but at least he looked really happy to get spend time with Emma again.

tomstone
February 13th, 2012, 08:42 AM
Thoughts:
Mr. Gold has been influencing a lot of things, I think that shows he has some degree of power there. in a lot of ways I think he is playing with Regina and maybe he is ready to go back, you know?

I am pretty sure he is, otherwise he would have never brought Henry to Storybrook. Suddenly Mr. Gold has Reginas love locked up somewhere too. If someone knows who it is, it would be Rumpy. :)

Homer 120
February 13th, 2012, 09:22 AM
I freaking knewwwwwww it! :D I knew that Mr. gold knew who he really was, it was hinted all over the place! :P

In ratings news Once Upon A Time had a 3.0 in the adults 18-49 demographic against the frakking GRAMMY'S! You can pretty much garruntee that the show will be back for another season. ABC has a real hit on their hands, so pleased it's doing well!

jeri
February 13th, 2012, 11:22 AM
I freaking knewwwwwww it! :D I knew that Mr. gold knew who he really was, it was hinted all over the place! :P

In ratings news Once Upon A Time had a 3.0 in the adults 18-49 demographic against the frakking GRAMMY'S! You can pretty much garruntee that the show will be back for another season. ABC has a real hit on their hands, so pleased it's doing well!

Me too! I KNEW Mr. Gold knew all! What a great episode! Now that it's Regina vs. Rumple, Let the fireworks begin!

TheRandomOne
February 13th, 2012, 11:28 AM
I wonder if Gold will help Emma & Henry on their quest to break the curse ? All he has to do is tell Emma that Henry is right & then voila

Homer 120
February 13th, 2012, 11:52 AM
I wonder if Gold will help Emma & Henry on their quest to break the curse ? All he has to do is tell Emma that Henry is right & then voila

Then what's left? That would ruin Gold/Rumpy's character if that happened.

TheRandomOne
February 13th, 2012, 01:30 PM
Then what's left? That would ruin Gold/Rumpy's character if that happened.

How so ? It would be a good way to get back at Regina. Gold may tell Emma that Henry is right about everything. But getting everyone to remember might not be so easy

Platschu
February 13th, 2012, 02:48 PM
But something is missing in Rumpi's story. Last time he had acquired that sword with great magical powers, but now he is cursed which changed his face as well. I hope they will tell us what happened. :)

tomstone
February 13th, 2012, 03:59 PM
But something is missing in Rumpi's story. Last time he had acquired that sword with great magical powers, but now he is cursed which changed his face as well. I hope they will tell us what happened. :)

That sword is what cursed him, his appearence had already changed a bit when he got to his Son.

majorsal
February 13th, 2012, 06:58 PM
i missed the last 10 mins of last nights ep, so can anyone tell me exactly what happened?

Ian-S
February 13th, 2012, 07:47 PM
Quick recap for majorsal

Rumpy kicks Belle out.

Evil Queen visits Rumpy and tells him the girl was shunned by her father, he imprisoned her in a tower and eventually she killed herself.

In Storybrook, Gold beats the flower seller and wants to know where something is, Emma stops him and arrests him (he also mentions about the guys daughter).

In Sheriff's office, Gold is locked up, Regina comes in with Henry and offers half hour with him to Emma, to get her out the way, she then confronts Gold and he works out she put the flower seller up to his robbing, he asks if she has what he wants, she says yes, so they do a deal, Regina wants him to answer one question "What is your name".

He replies Mr Gold, bit of verbal chess goes on, then he reveals he's Rumple. She then hands over what he wants, the chipped t-cup from earlier in the episode.

Last scene is Regina at the hospital, she goes down into the basement, opens a viewing hatch, and there is Belle, locked up.

Presumably Belle is the daughter of the flower seller (imho).

Hopefully I haven't missed anything.

I always though Gold knew who he was, but it's intriguing that Regina asked him, not sure if that was her playing it carefully, just incase he didn't know, or whether she doesn't know who the people were herself apart from maybe a few (the previous Sheriff etc.).

If she knew, surely she'd have dealt with Emma by now?

dragongirl
February 13th, 2012, 08:39 PM
I think she asked because of him saying Please he has said it a couple times and the way he says it, it is like he is saying "you owe me for what I allowed you to do"

On a side note I looked on IMDb (not always the most accurate place for info but...Belle is in the ep 14 Dreamer Personally I am really excited by that

Sorry to jump right in the conversation just wanted to put in my 2 cents.

jeri
February 13th, 2012, 09:31 PM
one interesting thought came to me


all emma needs to do is find Regina's true love and have him, her, it kiss her and the whole thing will be fixed.

I think that Regina has the book, which is why she wanted confirmation as to who Rumpy was. She's using the book to get an advantage of who to play against whom.

I'm thinking there's been a lot of manipulating on Gold's part, since Emma's arrival, to cause suspicion on Regina's part. She may be evil, but she's not dumb. So I'm on the fence as to if she's got the book or not.

tomstone
February 13th, 2012, 10:38 PM
I think she asked because of him saying Please he has said it a couple times and the way he says it, it is like he is saying "you owe me for what I allowed you to do"

On a side note I looked on IMDb (not always the most accurate place for info but...Belle is in the ep 14 Dreamer Personally I am really excited by that

Sorry to jump right in the conversation just wanted to put in my 2 cents.

As to my knowledge we have only seen him say please once before this ep somewhere in the beginning. I find it very interresting to find out that all this time they didnt know. I mean, what the heck did they do the last 26 Years?

dragongirl
February 14th, 2012, 09:19 AM
From what I have seen he has only said it the twice. All I can think is that Regina was so sure everything would go as she expected that when Emma showed up she started to question how well her spell was going

tomstone
February 14th, 2012, 12:34 PM
From what I have seen he has only said it the twice. All I can think is that Regina was so sure everything would go as she expected that when Emma showed up she started to question how well her spell was going

Yeah, but I mean knowing Regina and Mr. Gold, they must have been playing their little Games with the People of the Town for a long time and it never crossed their mind to check if their advesary(not sure how thats spelled) still has their Memories? I find it a bit weird, but I cant expect the writers to have thought through every little detail. :)

26 Years is a long time to hold composure. Especially in a Town where nothing changes. Also, when even Henry knows that the residents of Storybrook cannot leave, how did Regina expect Mr. Gold to go and get her a Child?

Just saying it seems like kind of a Plothole to me. I would have been happier if they had known for a long time and Gold just always got his way by saying his magic word. :)

A question related to the recent Episode:
What is Regina expecting to do with Bell? She cannot use her as leverage, since Gold has full control over her if he wants. It just needs a simple sentence ended by please and Regina would have to realease her and never do anything to her afterwards. And she cant get rid of his Powers as long as Belle is not with him.

:lol: Writing this already answerd my question. Thats exactly what she wants to happen. When the time comes Belle will probably be released in order to take Golds power away before she makes her move.

I would love to see a Episode of the Past Storybrook centering on Regina and Gold messing with each other. I see alot of fun potential there. :P

dragongirl
February 14th, 2012, 01:52 PM
Well since Gold has had his memories from the beginning (as far as we know) he has been playing his games with an ace in the hole since he had to know that she had her memories as she was the one who cast the spell. What made her question that now though...Maybe it is because of the Please we can't be sure he didn't say it before Emma got there, maybe because of his attack on Belle's father or it is something she has been wondering about for years and she decided to take a chance and ask him now.

Given who Gold is maybe he is the only one with the ability to leave Storybrook. With him knowing the truth it would seem that he is stronger than the others. Did Regina get Gold to find her a child or did he put the idea in her head? What are the odds too that by chance he would find Emma's child? It is possible that he has known everything about Emma and has been in his own way making sure that she came to Storybrook to stop Regina. Course that could just be me and sugar related ramblings :P

VampyreWraith
February 14th, 2012, 02:00 PM
It didn't really bother me that Regina just now confirmed that Gold is Rumplestiltskin(I think Mr Gold has always known who Regina was). Gold would probably want to bide his time and not do anything that would annoy Regina too much. He even got her a child(though I think bringing Henry to Storybrook was more for his benefit and not Regina's, but she doesn't know that). I don't think she cared nor wanted to care where the baby came from as long as she got one.
She may have been suspicious about him, and might have even suspected who he was for awhile, but as far has she was concerned the curse had worked, and there was nothing that could be done to undo it. Besides, no one was supposed to remember, and as far as she knew no one did. To her it probably didn't matter if he was really Rumplestiltskin or some other villian from the Fairy tale world. Then Emma came along, and things start moving again, babies being born, people coming out of a coma, people are remembering. Now Regina needs to know who all the players are, and how much they know in order to maintain control, and make sure the curse stays in place.
That's just how I see things anyway. :)

dragongirl
February 14th, 2012, 02:08 PM
I can see that. I am sure it is driving her crazy not knowing who Emma is.

VampyreWraith
February 14th, 2012, 02:24 PM
I can see that. I am sure it is driving her crazy not knowing who Emma is.

Yeah lol. I still wonder though, if she's actually made the connection between Emma deciding to stay and whats been going on in town, or does she think Emma coming to town is a coincidence and that what's been going on is really someone else's doing?

dragongirl
February 14th, 2012, 02:52 PM
I don't know. She could think that someone is working against her and used Emma's arrival as a distraction or if she suspects who Emma really is. I would think if she knew Regina would try and kill Emma but so far she is only about making life miserable for her.

VampyreWraith
February 14th, 2012, 03:41 PM
Yeah, the fact that Regina hasn't tried to kill or otherwise get rid of Emma(other than just being unwelcoming and telling her to leave), also makes me lean towards Regina really not connecting Emma to what's been going on yet.

tomstone
February 14th, 2012, 03:44 PM
I don't know. She could think that someone is working against her and used Emma's arrival as a distraction or if she suspects who Emma really is. I would think if she knew Regina would try and kill Emma but so far she is only about making life miserable for her.

Sorry but, (Spoiler inserted just in case)
I am pretty sure that Regina knows very well who Emma is. I need to do a complete rewatch, but they burned the Pages so Regina wouldnt know what was on them, while she was IN them. That was only done under the assumptions that she doesnt know anything before.

tomstone
February 14th, 2012, 03:45 PM
I don't know. She could think that someone is working against her and used Emma's arrival as a distraction or if she suspects who Emma really is. I would think if she knew Regina would try and kill Emma but so far she is only about making life miserable for her.

Sorry but, (Spoiler inserted just in case)
I am pretty sure that Regina knows very well who Emma is. I need to do a complete rewatch, but they burned the Pages so Regina wouldnt know what was on them, while she was IN them. That was only done under the assumptions that she doesnt know anything before.

AresLover452
February 14th, 2012, 04:38 PM
Totally Loved sunday's episode!! Gold having and phreaking out when the tea cup was taken was.... O_O!! Awesome!

Skydiver
February 14th, 2012, 04:55 PM
I don't think Regina knew who she was in the beginning. I think she figured out that she was the queen, may even have read Henry's book, and is now trying to figure out who is who so she can know who to plot against whom.

I think Rumpy was the only one to know all along, but he's just as subject to the curse as the others, he just knows that there's a curse. I think he likes life as it is now so isn't inclined to fix things. But now that he knows that Regina knows it's going to be a more open cold war between them.

jeri
February 14th, 2012, 06:51 PM
Remember that Rumple can see the future, to what extent we don't know. So Mr. Gold I think was bidding his time, waiting for Emma to show up. He could have orchestrated the whole thing about Emma by getting Henry into Storybrooke, and then giving (clandestinely) Henry the book. I speculate that he has this planned out so the curse being broken will somehow also release him from his personal curse. (Wow, that must suck, having your own personal curse! Being the Dark One.) We know that the EQ got the curse from Rumple, but not if he was the originator of it. So he may not be able to manipulate the curse without these other people playing precise roles in it's demise.

AresLover452
February 14th, 2012, 07:31 PM
before the curse was released, Rumpel made a deal with the EQ for the knowledge of his former life, and I am certain that Regina retained her memory of who and what she was. Now that emma is there I sure whatever plan he has will be set in motion faster when he learns Regina has Belle locked up.

tomstone
February 14th, 2012, 08:12 PM
before the curse was released, Rumpel made a deal with the EQ for the knowledge of his former life, and I am certain that Regina retained her memory of who and what she was. Now that emma is there I sure whatever plan he has will be set in motion faster when he learns Regina has Belle locked up.

Uhm, Rumpel only demanded a better life. Both said that they may not remember this Deal afterwards. I thought the fact that Gold did what he did would be enough proof that he has been planning this for some time and probably wouldn´t have set it into motion if he wouldn´t have some Ace himself. I keep coming back to his favour, something seems very bad about it.

I am with Jeri on the Curse thing, by the power this thing has, its pretty unlikely that Rumpelstilzchen is the one that created it. Since its the Fairy Tale World, something like this would have needed to be there since the beginning.

jeri
February 14th, 2012, 09:10 PM
Uhm, Rumpel only demanded a better life. Both said that they may not remember this Deal afterwards. I thought the fact that Gold did what he did would be enough proof that he has been planning this for some time and probably wouldn´t have set it into motion if he wouldn´t have some Ace himself. I keep coming back to his favour, something seems very bad about it.

I am with Jeri on the Curse thing, by the power this thing has, its pretty unlikely that Rumpelstilzchen is the one that created it. Since its the Fairy Tale World, something like this would have needed to be there since the beginning.

Yeah, it must be something much bigger and powerful than Rumple to have the entire land caught up in it. Someone on another thread made the statement that the show has been renewed for a second season, so maybe we will get to find out eventually who made this curse, and how.

tomstone
February 14th, 2012, 09:54 PM
Yeah, it must be something much bigger and powerful than Rumple to have the entire land caught up in it. Someone on another thread made the statement that the show has been renewed for a second season, so maybe we will get to find out eventually who made this curse, and how.

It keeps coming down to who was there first. The Fairy Tale World or their Stories. The Book is one thing, but in the OUAT World these Stories had been around just as long as in ours. So why does everybody know about the happy ends that apparently never happened? Or am I the only one that notices that every happy end we have seen is not really how they are supposed to be?

AresLover452
February 15th, 2012, 01:56 AM
Uhm, Rumpel only demanded a better life. Both said that they may not remember this Deal afterwards. I thought the fact that Gold did what he did would be enough proof that he has been planning this for some time and probably wouldn´t have set it into motion if he wouldn´t have some Ace himself. I keep coming back to his favour, something seems very bad about it.

I am kinda worried about what kind of Favor he is going to ask. With him you can never tell what is what. Though his sights might be set on doing something about Regina since she set up Mo French to break into his house. The chipped Tea cup was a low blow and I think he wants blood, the EQ's blood.

Artemis-Neith
February 15th, 2012, 02:33 AM
I am kinda worried about what kind of Favor he is going to ask. With him you can never tell what is what. Though his sights might be set on doing something about Regina since she set up Mo French to break into his house. The chipped Tea cup was a low blow and I think he wants blood, the EQ's blood.

Wow, that was indeed a good episode, with quite a twist.

I'm sure the favor he'll ask for has to do with Emma's role in Storybrock, and may include her final fate. So I'm sure it's something severe. Since I think, most of what had happened was part of Rumpel's plan from the start (to what end? To break his personal curse?), and that includes the Evil Queen to enact a curse, he owned at some time himself.

But! The Evil Queen Regina is a true counterpart to Rumpelstiltskin, the Dark One, she's demonstrated this several times in between, she has power(s). For me it looks like she just looked for a possibility to get Gold off guard to let him confirm what she suspected since some time (please, anyone). For her he's just another person who betrayed her, and she has ways to handle such a person.

If he is out for blood, her blood, which I think is more than possible, she'll look for a way to get his, without breaking any contract/deal. She's bound to deals with him as she is to her, or anybody else.

Can't wait for their next encounter. That should be interesting.

I think the relationship between Gold and Emma starts also to be ...interesting.

teyla-nick94
February 15th, 2012, 09:06 AM
Why shouldnt he make a Deal with him? He could have done it before understanding who Mr. Gold actually is.

In the fourth episode he said to Emma that he is still trying to figure it out. He just know that Gold is evil but not who he really is.


I just love how they tie together the Stories quite nicely. I was always a fan of any Crossover Episode and this whole Series is a big one. Belle was just sweet and I really felt sorry for Rumpy. Though I wonder if there wasnt some truth in what he said about his powers being worth more than love to him. After all he lost his Son too and I still think he is not dead.

Do you Guys think that we can take Gold literal when he says "I am the one with the power around here"? He can force Regina to do anything by saying please. So I really wonder if Emma will be able to deny Gold his favour, but for the sake of storytelling she probably wont.

I also don't think Bae is dead. I hope we will get to know the truth soon.
I believe Gold. He is indeed a powerful man when everyone in the town is more afraid of him than of Regina. And as you mentioned, he can make Regina do whatever he wants just by saying "please". And in the first episode the Guard who took Snow and Charming to his cell told them not to tell him their names because then he would have power over them. And the only thing he wanted in return for giving them information was the name of their child - Emma. He must have asked for this for a reason. He certainly has something in mind about making her obedient to his will. And maybe he's just playing with her now


I can see that. I am sure it is driving her crazy not knowing who Emma is.

I think she knows who Emma is. In the end of the second episode she was asking Gold if he knew it and he said (correct me if I'm wrong): I would say you think you know exactly who she is" and Regina's response was a very shocked gaze

dragongirl
February 15th, 2012, 12:35 PM
I was re-watching the ep (couldn't help myself) and I noticed something I totally missed the first time I watched it

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i188/dragonsoul76137/whatever/1x12-Skin-Deep-once-upon-a-time-29055681-1280-720-1.jpg

so this is after his encounter with Jiminy Cricket

KEK
February 15th, 2012, 02:05 PM
This is going to open up a lot of potential for plot holes if Mr Gold knows he can get her to do anything he wants by saying please. It makes no sense really that she would be any threat at all.

VampyreWraith
February 15th, 2012, 02:43 PM
Unless there is a way out of that arrangement. I'd guess it somehow involves Belle, since right after Regina's little talk with Gold, where he tells her that he's the one with the power, Regina says "We shall see." and then pays a visit to a locked up Belle.

dragongirl
February 15th, 2012, 02:54 PM
Yeah Gold had an Ace up his sleeve in that Regina didn't know he had his memories but now that she knows the truth she has Belle and I think she will use her against him. Regina could probably have Gold agreeing to anything so long as Belle is safe.

RJLCyberPunk
February 15th, 2012, 04:55 PM
Yeah Gold had an Ace up his sleeve in that Regina didn't know he had his memories but now that she knows the truth she has Belle and I think she will use her against him. Regina could probably have Gold agreeing to anything so long as Belle is safe.

But that would also mean she had planned to use the curse since time immemorial and covered every possible angle save 2 that is Snow white's daughter and her son and she is also dealing with that quite expediently the only one who she cannot truly control in any way, shape or form is the mysterious bike rider.

SGalisa
February 15th, 2012, 05:08 PM
I freaking knewwwwwww it! :D I knew that Mr. gold knew who he really was, it was hinted all over the place! :P


Me too! I KNEW Mr. Gold knew all! What a great episode!

For one thing, I never doubted that Mr. Gold
didn't know *who* he was or who Regina and everyone else was/is.
Every time he has ever said "please" to Regina (the Mayor), it has always been with a deliberate notation from within his voice, and so far, she has always done as he requested. ;)

Clues have been there all along about Mr. Gold knowing about his own identity -- like the blank index card. Gold knew exactly who Emma was looking for, and he gave her the exact name, which turned out to be 100% correct. How else *could* he have known?

One of the important details between Rumpy & the EQ (evil queen) regarding Regina being allowed to let the curse against fairytale land take effect, was originally emphasized by Rumplestiltskin when he told the evil queen that every time he/Mr. Gold says "Please" to her/Regina, she *MUST* obey him. The EQ agreed to this end of "their deal," but I find it humorous that while Mr. Gold (seemed to) knows exactly what is going on, Regina seems to be thrown off balance every time he says the word "please" -- that she actually obeys him. She always seems so bewildered that she would do as he requests, every time the word please is mentioned by him as a commanding request to her. :p
:D



Uhm, Rumpel only demanded a better life. Both said that they may not remember this Deal afterwards. I thought the fact that Gold did what he did would be enough proof that he has been planning this for some time and probably wouldn't have set it into motion if he wouldn't have some Ace himself. I keep coming back to his favour, something seems very bad about it.

Nah.
not bad, not on his part. ;)

I do think that Emma may be Gold's ACE up his sleeve.
Since we know what true love can do, if it should ever happen again, and Belle is directly involved in curing Gold back into being his original old Rumplestiltskin self, without being all timid and cowering, he's going to need BACK-UP help BIG time to defeat the EQ/Mayor Regina.

If Gold ever finds out about Belle being in his real world, it may stop the curse that has made him powerful, but Emma is still a key ingredient and wild card. Gold has not yet told Emma what his favor will be, but when he requests it, she will know. I think if he loses his power of control over the EQ, then probably Emma will be the KEY to save them all. Somehow, whatever happens, I believe Mr. Gold will be able to convince Emma and whoever else is on Emma and Henry's side about defeating the EQ in their real world.

It would be nice if Regina could have a happy ending to all of the misery her life has enforced upon others, but somehow, I'm not sure that moment might ever happen.

Also, I think the EQ will obviously use Belle in some way to sever Gold's power over Regina, but at the same time, the EQ will not be taking into account the balancing weight Emma and Henry might have against the EQ, when the time of Mr.Gold calling in his *favor* comes in to pass. Emma might be reluctant to believe Mr.Gold, but also she might not have any other option against Regina/the Mayor.

That's my theory (or theories =) :D

One more item, and I've seen this mentioned on other web sites--
Rumplestiltskin was spinning straw into GOLD. Thus, is how he gained his name identity in the *real* world. Before I read that, I thought it had more to do with his wealth and control of power, but that's not the case. It was the straw being spun into GOLD on how he probably decided upon his "real world" name. Also, now that I've seen most of the eps so far, I also think if he truly will return to true love, that his heart truly is a *heart of gold* (rare emotional wealth), and not the physical Midas Gold type of Gold (or Lead, if one needs to understand that better). :)

oh, and one more item--
Gold told Belle that power was more important to him than love. Yet near the end of the ep, in fairytale land, after the EQ tells Rumple that Belle died, he is seen taking the chipped cup Belle broke and placing that cup on top of one of his prized pedestals. Mild translation, I think he realized he was (deeply) in love without fessing up to it or admitting it to Belle, when he was actually with her. Also, it would explain why he wanted the stolen *chipped* cup back so badly in the real world.
;)

Mrs. Rush
February 16th, 2012, 06:45 AM
For one thing, I never doubted that Mr. Gold
didn't know *who* he was or who Regina and everyone else was/is.
Every time he has ever said "please" to Regina (the Mayor), it has always been with a deliberate notation from within his voice, and so far, she has always done as he requested. ;)

Clues have been there all along about Mr. Gold knowing about his own identity -- like the blank index card. Gold knew exactly who Emma was looking for, and he gave her the exact name, which turned out to be 100% correct. How else *could* he have known?

One of the important details between Rumpy & the EQ (evil queen) regarding Regina being allowed to let the curse against fairytale land take effect, was originally emphasized by Rumplestiltskin when he told the evil queen that every time he/Mr. Gold says "Please" to her/Regina, she *MUST* obey him. The EQ agreed to this end of "their deal," but I find it humorous that while Mr. Gold (seemed to) knows exactly what is going on, Regina seems to be thrown off balance every time he says the word "please" -- that she actually obeys him. She always seems so bewildered that she would do as he requests, every time the word please is mentioned by him as a commanding request to her. :p
:D




Nah.
not bad, not on his part. ;)

I do think that Emma may be Gold's ACE up his sleeve.
Since we know what true love can do, if it should ever happen again, and Belle is directly involved in curing Gold back into being his original old Rumplestiltskin self, without being all timid and cowering, he's going to need BACK-UP help BIG time to defeat the EQ/Mayor Regina.

If Gold ever finds out about Belle being in his real world, it may stop the curse that has made him powerful, but Emma is still a key ingredient and wild card. Gold has not yet told Emma what his favor will be, but when he requests it, she will know. I think if he loses his power of control over the EQ, then probably Emma will be the KEY to save them all. Somehow, whatever happens, I believe Mr. Gold will be able to convince Emma and whoever else is on Emma and Henry's side about defeating the EQ in their real world.

It would be nice if Regina could have a happy ending to all of the misery her life has enforced upon others, but somehow, I'm not sure that moment might ever happen.

Also, I think the EQ will obviously use Belle in some way to sever Gold's power over Regina, but at the same time, the EQ will not be taking into account the balancing weight Emma and Henry might have against the EQ, when the time of Mr.Gold calling in his *favor* comes in to pass. Emma might be reluctant to believe Mr.Gold, but also she might not have any other option against Regina/the Mayor.

That's my theory (or theories =) :D

One more item, and I've seen this mentioned on other web sites--
Rumplestiltskin was spinning straw into GOLD. Thus, is how he gained his name identity in the *real* world. Before I read that, I thought it had more to do with his wealth and control of power, but that's not the case. It was the straw being spun into GOLD on how he probably decided upon his "real world" name. Also, now that I've seen most of the eps so far, I also think if he truly will return to true love, that his heart truly is a *heart of gold* (rare emotional wealth), and not the physical Midas Gold type of Gold (or Lead, if one needs to understand that better). :)

oh, and one more item--
Gold told Belle that power was more important to him than love. Yet near the end of the ep, in fairytale land, after the EQ tells Rumple that Belle died, he is seen taking the chipped cup Belle broke and placing that cup on top of one of his prized pedestals. Mild translation, I think he realized he was (deeply) in love without fessing up to it or admitting it to Belle, when he was actually with her. Also, it would explain why he wanted the stolen *chipped* cup back so badly in the real world.
;)


I agree with everything you just said. Thanks for putting that all into words :)

MylittleEli
February 16th, 2012, 11:25 AM
This is a note about filming of Once Upon a Time.

I actually live and work in "Storybrook" so we get notices of filming whenever the crew is going to be in town.

I'm not sure if anyone on this thread lives locally in the Vancouver area, but the crew will be filming inside the dinner, on the side streets and in Mr. Golds shop tomorrow between 1:00pm and midnight(ish).

Just wanted to let you know in case you want to come down to my little neck of the woods and check it out!

Skydiver
February 16th, 2012, 05:13 PM
thanks, wish i was in steveston, i'd come and hang out

jeri
February 16th, 2012, 09:10 PM
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/th_tumblr_lyzcgwb8dJ1qfqmuv.jpg (http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/tumblr_lyzcgwb8dJ1qfqmuv.jpg)clicky
Okay, what's up with the wool he's spinning? Maybe he's going to do some knitting? Haha! I have yet to see straw at his wheel. :P

jeri
February 16th, 2012, 09:48 PM
For one thing, I never doubted that Mr. Gold
didn't know *who* he was or who Regina and everyone else was/is.
Every time he has ever said "please" to Regina (the Mayor), it has always been with a deliberate notation from within his voice, and so far, she has always done as he requested. ;)

Clues have been there all along about Mr. Gold knowing about his own identity -- like the blank index card. Gold knew exactly who Emma was looking for, and he gave her the exact name, which turned out to be 100% correct. How else *could* he have known?

One of the important details between Rumpy & the EQ (evil queen) regarding Regina being allowed to let the curse against fairytale land take effect, was originally emphasized by Rumplestiltskin when he told the evil queen that every time he/Mr. Gold says "Please" to her/Regina, she *MUST* obey him. The EQ agreed to this end of "their deal," but I find it humorous that while Mr. Gold (seemed to) knows exactly what is going on, Regina seems to be thrown off balance every time he says the word "please" -- that she actually obeys him. She always seems so bewildered that she would do as he requests, every time the word please is mentioned by him as a commanding request to her. :p
:D
Yeah, that's why I said I knew it. There were clues all over the place that he knew. I think it's interesting the way Regina reacts when Mr. Gold says "Please". One might think that because "Please" is part of the curse, she herself is not remembering that part, or that it was part of the caveats that Rumple put in for himself (like retaining his memory). She may have no idea why she does what he asks.


I do think that Emma may be Gold's ACE up his sleeve.
Since we know what true love can do, if it should ever happen again, and Belle is directly involved in curing Gold back into being his original old Rumplestiltskin self, without being all timid and cowering, he's going to need BACK-UP help BIG time to defeat the EQ/Mayor Regina.

If Gold ever finds out about Belle being in his real world, it may stop the curse that has made him powerful, but Emma is still a key ingredient and wild card. Gold has not yet told Emma what his favor will be, but when he requests it, she will know. I think if he loses his power of control over the EQ, then probably Emma will be the KEY to save them all. Somehow, whatever happens, I believe Mr. Gold will be able to convince Emma and whoever else is on Emma and Henry's side about defeating the EQ in their real world.

So far, Gold believes Belle to be dead, so his plans may change once he knows the truth. How Emma figures in those plans may change, but I'm sure they will become true allies eventually. We also know that Rumple knows the future, maybe not as much as he'd like, but enough to know how to plan.



Also, I think the EQ will obviously use Belle in some way to sever Gold's power over Regina, but at the same time, the EQ will not be taking into account the balancing weight Emma and Henry might have against the EQ, when the time of Mr.Gold calling in his *favor* comes in to pass. Emma might be reluctant to believe Mr.Gold, but also she might not have any other option against Regina/the Mayor.[/spoiler]

I think that Regina is planning to use Belle to remove Rumple/Gold's power, but I don't think she knows of the favor Emma owes.


One more item, and I've seen this mentioned on other web sites--
Rumplestiltskin was spinning straw into GOLD. Thus, is how he gained his name identity in the *real* world. Before I read that, I thought it had more to do with his wealth and control of power, but that's not the case. It was the straw being spun into GOLD on how he probably decided upon his "real world" name. Also, now that I've seen most of the eps so far, I also think if he truly will return to true love, that his heart truly is a *heart of gold* (rare emotional wealth), and not the physical Midas Gold type of Gold (or Lead, if one needs to understand that better). :)
Good thought, I like it! :)


oh, and one more item--
Gold told Belle that power was more important to him than love. Yet near the end of the ep, in fairytale land, after the EQ tells Rumple that Belle died, he is seen taking the chipped cup Belle broke and placing that cup on top of one of his prized pedestals. Mild translation, I think he realized he was (deeply) in love without fessing up to it or admitting it to Belle, when he was actually with her. Also, it would explain why he wanted the stolen *chipped* cup back so badly in the real world.
;)
Yes, I like that idea, or it could be that he thought she was a trick, as he said, and did not believe her because it would be too good to be true, that someone would actually love him. Also we saw before he was changed, he already had very low self esteem.:(

One more thing I'm wondering, how did Gold end up with all those Fairy Tale things, including Jiminy's Doll Parents, in his possession? He must have planned to keep these things from the beginning. For what purpose? Hum...

tomstone
February 17th, 2012, 12:22 AM
One more thing I'm wondering, how did Gold end up with all those Fairy Tale things, including Jiminy's Doll Parents, in his possession? He must have planned to keep these things from the beginning. For what purpose? Hum...

If you mean the ones in the Store, we know that stuff from Fairy Tale Land came to our world. Maybe he needed a hobby and started collecting those items. :D

Skydiver
February 17th, 2012, 03:59 AM
It probably shows that he's known all along. regina curses them into reality, he knows who she is but she doesn't, so he keeps his 'knick knacks' because they are literally all he has....he has no friends, just possessions. One of which, we know, is vitally important,but the rest isn't as much. It's just the 'spoils' of years of manipulating everyone in fairyland.


But when regina stole that stuff, and kept back Chip, rumpy realized that she was remembering. and so now the two of them will have their little cold war more open, but will still have to keep it a bit discreet because she can't have others remembering who they are and who she is

Mrs. Rush
February 17th, 2012, 06:52 AM
This is a note about filming of Once Upon a Time.

I actually live and work in "Storybrook" so we get notices of filming whenever the crew is going to be in town.

I'm not sure if anyone on this thread lives locally in the Vancouver area, but the crew will be filming inside the dinner, on the side streets and in Mr. Golds shop tomorrow between 1:00pm and midnight(ish).

Just wanted to let you know in case you want to come down to my little neck of the woods and check it out!

That's really cool! have you gone and watched them film?

warmbeachbrat
February 17th, 2012, 07:37 AM
Regina's got that big crypt with all those hearts (or boxes, anyway)--I'm pretty sure she's known all along.

dragongirl
February 17th, 2012, 09:05 AM
I think she has too She has known from the start and she was comfortably living believing that no one else did know until she asked and found out that Gold knows he really is.

AresLover452
February 17th, 2012, 11:47 PM
Totally throwing this out there cause I was thinking about it: THE STRANGER. what if he is some how connected to the town, more importantly to the Book Henry loved so much. He did say he was a writer, perhaps he wrote the book of tales that he "borrowed" from Henry before the castle was torn down.

denis565
February 18th, 2012, 11:21 AM
Great episode! I LOVED it...
If they will fight, that would be a fight of a millennium!
I knew that he knew who he is ever since the first 'please' in Riginas garden...
This show is becoming better and better by every episode, although I do miss Cricket...where is he?
What is another thing that i LOVE about this show is the fact that it is full of connection between episodes- like that one with dolls in rumpelstiltskin castel! Just love it!

BamBoo
February 19th, 2012, 04:06 AM
oh, and one more item--
Gold told Belle that power was more important to him than love. Yet near the end of the ep, in fairytale land, after the EQ tells Rumple that Belle died, he is seen taking the chipped cup Belle broke and placing that cup on top of one of his prized pedestals. Mild translation, I think he realized he was (deeply) in love without fessing up to it or admitting it to Belle, when he was actually with her. Also, it would explain why he wanted the stolen *chipped* cup back so badly in the real world.
;)


Wow that's very deep thought indeed :eek: actually he thinks that love is more important to him than power, doesn't he? when he removed a holy grail(?) and placed a chipped cup instead.

I can't wait to know more about Belle, wonder if she is mental or not?
did she remember that she loves Rumpy? And who is the one who keep her away, did Mr.French knew that she is in secret section or EQ took her before she could come back to her town?

I thought the dark one know everything (maybe I 'm wrong pls correct me), then why he don't know that Belle is still alive?

BamBoo
February 19th, 2012, 04:31 AM
Totally throwing this out there cause I was thinking about it: THE STRANGER. what if he is some how connected to the town, more importantly to the Book Henry loved so much. He did say he was a writer, perhaps he wrote the book of tales that he "borrowed" from Henry before the castle was torn down.


Could he be the writer who created the whole story and all character?




Great episode! I LOVED it...
If they will fight, that would be a fight of a millennium!
I knew that he knew who he is ever since the first 'please' in Riginas garden...
This show is becoming better and better by every episode, although I do miss Cricket...where is he?
What is another thing that i LOVE about this show is the fact that it is full of connection between episodes- like that one with dolls in rumpelstiltskin castel! Just love it!

:indeed:
the castle is great and Mr.Gold's house is adorable :P

http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j470/BamBoo34/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/tumblr_lzgk2jhaEu1rnt8vno1_400.jpg

Skydiver
February 19th, 2012, 09:05 AM
Now that we have threads for each episode, we can take episode specific conversation to those threads. NO need for spoiler space and maybe easier to keep track of the conversation.

SGalisa
February 19th, 2012, 11:49 AM
Wow! Firstly, this is cool! A total surprise (to me) to find this show now has its very own forum on GW. :)
Happy thank you's to TPTB. :)


2ndly, only posting the below comment in reply to previous inquiry, so the info doesn't get cross-posted into the ep topic (unless we're allowed to do that?). Anywho...


Wow that's very deep thought indeed :eek: actually he thinks that love is more important to him than power, doesn't he? when he removed a holy grail(?) and placed a chipped cup instead.

I can't wait to know more about Belle, wonder if she is mental or not?
did she remember that she loves Rumpy? And who is the one who keep her away, did Mr.French knew that she is in secret section or EQ took her before she could come back to her town?

I thought the dark one know everything (maybe I 'm wrong pls correct me), then why he don't know that Belle is still alive?

I think the answer is simple. Therefore,
Rumpy's heart basically broke with no hope of seeing Belle alive ever again, so he sort of wrote her out of his life, except for having the chipped cup as a token memory of their short-lived relationship.

Since the EQ spun a tale of her own about Belle's FTL demise resulting in her death, in the real world, Mr.Gold/Rumpy doesn't know Belle is still alive (in both worlds), and because he was told she died in FTL, she's also dead in the current "real world." I do think the emotional fireworks are going to go off big time, when/if he ever finds out Belle is alive in his "real world" with Mayor Regina in control (and especially, if he discovers it was Regina who had Belle *locked* up to begin with. :eek:

Ogler
February 20th, 2012, 09:15 PM
What about the writer on the latest episode?
He does know about the book. I think it was he who wrote it. He made sure to return it to Henry. But why?

AresLover452
February 20th, 2012, 10:10 PM
What about the writer on the latest episode?
He does know about the book. I think it was he who wrote it. He made sure to return it to Henry. But why?

Henry is the one to convince Emma of the curse and make her believe that it is real. The book lent him credibility and the fact that she can tell when she is being lied to. Did you notice how August was adding a story to the book. I'm positive now that he was the one who wrote the book that Henry loves. Maybe he as determined to get the curse broken as Henry is.

Ian-S
February 21st, 2012, 04:15 AM
He wasn't adding a story, but rather replacing the pages (imho).

Why? my theory here (http://forum.gateworld.net/threads/84125-What-Happened-To-Frederick-(113)?p=13200641#post13200641).

denis565
February 24th, 2012, 03:41 PM
Yes, he changed the story/book; but to good or bad is to early to say. And why did he return the changed one to Emma? Wouldn't Hanry noticed the difference? Or is the book magic in that whay that Henrys mamory is changed too?
The end was intriguing... any ideas wher she disappeared? It is clear that she didn't leave since it is impossible...

jeri
February 24th, 2012, 10:01 PM
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Artwork/RCdistort_001.jpg

jeri
February 29th, 2012, 08:28 PM
Here's a little tid-bit:
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/s181/once-upon-a-time/news/a368460/once-upon-a-time-execs-promise-rumpelstiltskin-answers.html

BamBoo
March 2nd, 2012, 02:42 AM
What about the writer on the latest episode?
He does know about the book. I think it was he who wrote it. He made sure to return it to Henry. But why?

I think he wrote that book, too. but why he want to help Henry?
Where he came from? How he came here? and I'm thinking of 'Inkheart'





I think the answer is simple. Therefore,
Rumpy's heart basically broke with no hope of seeing Belle alive ever again, so he sort of wrote her out of his life, except for having the chipped cup as a token memory of their short-lived relationship.

Since the EQ spun a tale of her own about Belle's FTL demise resulting in her death, in the real world, Mr.Gold/Rumpy doesn't know Belle is still alive (in both worlds), and because he was told she died in FTL, she's also dead in the current "real world." I do think the emotional fireworks are going to go off big time, when/if he ever finds out Belle is alive in his "real world" with Mayor Regina in control (and especially, if he discovers it was Regina who had Belle *locked* up to begin with. :eek:

:eek: when he knows it gonna be fun. the battle begins!!

Mrs. Rush
March 2nd, 2012, 02:01 PM
I shared this with the Rush thread, but I thought it was fun and wanted to share it here too :)
http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w481/winstonandviktor/RumpleandRush.jpg

Mrs. Rush
March 3rd, 2012, 10:39 AM
You know, I was thinking about The Price of Gold, you know how Henry says he is not sure who Gold is in the fairy tail world? Maybe hes not in the book?


I know there was a thought that maybe August Wayne Booth could be Rumples kid? or that maybe, Rumple started the book as like a diary? I remember that one, as kind of the story of his life for Belle. Just made me curious.

jeri
March 4th, 2012, 09:38 PM
Here's an article about the OUAT panel at Paley's
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/03/once-upon-a-time-mr-golds-therapy-evil-queens-mommy-issues-and-ariel-in-season-2.html

jeri
March 4th, 2012, 09:40 PM
They say that Mr. Gold is going to have some therapy
I think maybe he needs some!
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/ouat-1x12-mrgold-beats-moe.jpg

jeri
March 4th, 2012, 09:41 PM
You know, I was thinking about The Price of Gold, you know how Henry says he is not sure who Gold is in the fairy tail world? Maybe hes not in the book?


I know there was a thought that maybe August Wayne Booth could be Rumples kid? or that maybe, Rumple started the book as like a diary? I remember that one, as kind of the story of his life for Belle. Just made me curious.


That's an interesting thought, the book being Rumple's diary :rolleyes:

dragongirl
March 6th, 2012, 12:20 PM
Here (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Once-Upon-Time-Set-1044486.aspx) is another article about OUaT

AresLover452
March 6th, 2012, 01:15 PM
I shared this with the Rush thread, but I thought it was fun and wanted to share it here too :)
http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w481/winstonandviktor/RumpleandRush.jpg

That is awesome!! love it!!


They say that Mr. Gold is going to have some therapy
I think maybe he needs some!
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/Jeri33/Once%20Upon%20A%20Time/ouat-1x12-mrgold-beats-moe.jpg

With all the things he has rocking around in his noggin..... I would be surprised that he hasn't had therapy by now.

jeri
March 7th, 2012, 12:09 PM
With all the things he has rocking around in his noggin..... I would be surprised that he hasn't had therapy by now.

What with 28 years of dwelling on it! Poor guy!

dragongirl
March 11th, 2012, 07:34 PM
I don't know if any of you have seen this (http://www.hulu.com/watch/338438/once-upon-a-time-a-conversation-with-the-stars-and-creators-of-once-upon-a-time#s-p2-sr-i1) it is interesting and they give us some stuff to feed on for a while Not sure how many people may be from another country but that will only play for people in the US

jeri
March 11th, 2012, 09:43 PM
Here's an interesting article about Rumplestiltskin's various incarnations, and says some wonderful things about Robert Carlyle.
http://www.onceuponatimefans.co.uk/rumplestiltskin.htm

Artemis-Neith
March 12th, 2012, 03:21 AM
I don't know if any of you have seen this (http://www.hulu.com/watch/338438/once-upon-a-time-a-conversation-with-the-stars-and-creators-of-once-upon-a-time#s-p2-sr-i1) it is interesting and they give us some stuff to feed on for a while Not sure how many people may be from another country but that will only play for people in the US

That's the full version from the Paleyfest 2012, Once Upon a Time panel! :)

Hulu is normally not available from outside USA, IIRC, but I can see this one from Germany!

The Hulu version also has also the first 5+ minutes, which were missing due to technical problems on the YouTube version.

Maybe you could cross post it on this (http://forum.gateworld.net/threads/84292-Trailer-Specials-and-other-online-media-(beware-of-spoilers)) thread?

I set the thread "Trailer-Specials-and-other-online-media-(beware-of-spoilers)" up to collect those kind of videos, trailer for new episodes, and articles about the show, that they don't get lost between all the general discussion.

Edit: I could see it from Germany in the morning, but now it's over. They're on business as usual. :( But anyway, who ever was responsible for the "mistake", thank you, at least I could watch it once. :P

TheRandomOne
March 12th, 2012, 06:11 AM
Snow White had better done something to the Queen that justifies the Queen being the way the Queen is & why she is going through all of this. Otherwise if Emma does not bring Regina down a notch in the finale. I will probably be done with this show until I find out that happens

RJLCyberPunk
March 12th, 2012, 01:53 PM
Was anybody else surprised that
Red and granny are actually Lycans!
I think she would like to have a word with those 2!
http://www.wildsoundmovies.com/images/underworld_selene_sexy.jpg

Wild Flower
March 12th, 2012, 02:44 PM
Was anybody else surprised that
Red and granny are actually Lycans!
I think she would like to have a word with those 2!
http://www.wildsoundmovies.com/images/underworld_selene_sexy.jpg


Haha Awesome! She would definitely have something to say about it.

I thought that Granny might be the wolf but it still came as a surprise to me when I finally worked out it was actually Red. This episode was great. I'm so intrigued to see how Mary Margaret is involved with the heart. Do you think it has anything to do with the Huntsman?

jeri
March 12th, 2012, 08:49 PM
Haha Awesome! She would definitely have something to say about it.

I thought that Granny might be the wolf but it still came as a surprise to me when I finally worked out it was actually Red. This episode was great. I'm so intrigued to see how Mary Margaret is involved with the heart. Do you think it has anything to do with the Huntsman?

I think that Regina has stolen David's heart, that's why he was dazed and confused. She is trying to frame Mary Margret.

jeri
March 12th, 2012, 08:53 PM
Snow White had better done something to the Queen that justifies the Queen being the way the Queen is & why she is going through all of this. Otherwise if Emma does not bring Regina down a notch in the finale. I will probably be done with this show until I find out that happens

I think they will by the finale, they said so at the Paley fest interview. There is such a large amount of characters, they are drawing up a lot of story lines. I hope they don't get too many that it's confusing for some people when they try to bring all this stuff together. I feel like I'd better state taking notes! :D

RJLCyberPunk
March 23rd, 2012, 08:48 PM
I'm surprised that they are adding other characters from story's other than the grimm Fairytale characters that typically inhabit Storybrooke such as the Mad Hatter from Alice in Wonderland. For the looks of it Regina's spell went far beyond her own native reality it probably took just about every storybook character ever written into our world from the Hatter to Darth Vader and Magneto Yikes!

Skydiver
March 24th, 2012, 07:21 AM
It'll probably be limited to characters that are in the common domain....no way marvel or lucas will allow their characters to be used.

dragongirl
March 24th, 2012, 09:06 AM
Because it is ABC and ABC is part of Disney they will probably be limited to stuff that Disney has covered in movies. (hmmm does that mean that we will see the horned king? Oh and Gurgey I love him! although that would probably take some computer rendering)

jelgate
March 24th, 2012, 10:22 AM
I think its more the simplicity that the Disney version of the fairy tales are more known that the original version and has very little to do with ABC being owned by Disney

dragongirl
March 24th, 2012, 10:32 AM
well I don't think a station like CBS would be able to get rights from Disney for a lot of the characters

Artemis-Neith
March 24th, 2012, 02:36 PM
I think its more the simplicity that the Disney version of the fairy tales are more known that the original version and has very little to do with ABC being owned by Disney

That might be right. I guess in America the Disney versions are most likely more known than the original fairy tale books, and in between I think it's alsso true for Germany, maybe Europe. During my childhood I only knew the old-fashioned books, but never saw the Disney movies, but that's really long ago, and I think it's impossible to grew up nowadays like this!

So for me a lot of things from the Disney movies are therefor simply unknown to me, but I recognise everything from the original stories. I don't mind the Disney parts, though, but I don't go crazy about details I've no idea about. :)

jeri
March 26th, 2012, 10:09 AM
I don't know many of the Disney movies either. Most likely an age thing, we hardly ever went to the movies, and there where quite a bit fewer Disney flicks back then. And I only saw these films once in the cinema when I was quite young, not like kids today who go 6 times and then buy the DVDs and related stuff. My fairy tale memories are primarily from books, and they where old hand-me-downs from my parents' childhood.

denis565
April 7th, 2012, 08:05 AM
I loved how young Snow done her acting! She was great- how she done some of the regular moves of old Snow correctly was just awesome

the fifth man
April 26th, 2012, 06:30 PM
What are the odds we get a second season?

jelgate
April 26th, 2012, 06:44 PM
What are the odds we get a second season?

99.5%

The 0.5% is for some freak accident happening to the main cast that would prevent the show from continuing

denis565
April 27th, 2012, 02:44 PM
99.5%

The 0.5% is for some freak accident happening to the main cast that would prevent the show from continuing

I like those nubers :)

Mrs. Rush
April 27th, 2012, 05:10 PM
you know. I am excited by a recent theory I read about Rumple and Baelfire


So, the thought is that Baelfire, once in our world and separated from his father, feels abandonment and becomes a bad influence to Emma.
Essentially Baelfire is Henrys father. It's curious, and I like it.

Grandpa Rumple!

dragongirl
April 27th, 2012, 05:14 PM
I had not thought of that.

jeri
April 27th, 2012, 05:56 PM
you know. I am excited by a recent theory I read about Rumple and Baelfire


So, the thought is that Baelfire, once in our world and separated from his father, feels abandonment and becomes a bad influence to Emma.
Essentially Baelfire is Henrys father. It's curious, and I like it.

Grandpa Rumple!


That's a good one, I like it too.

Mrs. Rush
April 27th, 2012, 09:20 PM
I had not thought of that.


That's a good one, I like it too.


It would be interesting if it were true. Seems kind of out there, but not beyond the possibility of the show.

I also think, if you see the preview for this next weeks episode, Mr Gold tells Emma he is not the person who can help her with getting her son back. I think the real father IS the person who can help her, whoever that ends up being.

http://www.autoeurope.com/roadsigns/sign-images/sharp-turn-ahead.gif