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GateWorld
April 18th, 2011, 07:32 AM
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 3209 (609)</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">The Doctor comes to the aid of a child who is plagued by things that go bump in the night, and Amy and Rory are trapped inside a dollhouse.</DIV>
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Sealurk
September 3rd, 2011, 11:43 AM
Not bad. Seen better. I did like the reference to "if you were watching BBC 1 on a Saturday night". Subtle... :D

Every now and then I got the tiniest Paradise Towers vibe from bits of the episode.

"Bit rusty at this" - another reference to the Doctor having had kids.

"You're not from social services..."

Jammy Dodgers again.

Felt like Gatiss was trying to channel the Moff with this episode, with mixed results.

Draygon
September 3rd, 2011, 11:53 AM
I remember being scared of similar things when I was little. This was always put down to an over-active imagination though :rolleyes:

A decent episode, loved Rory's reaction after he and Amy woke up :P I just lol'ed, a lot. I guessed most of the details early on, though I like the idea that George is some sort of alien cuckoo species, it just seems.... about right really :)

Quizziard
September 3rd, 2011, 11:55 AM
Wouldn't want to be under 10 for this episode. Loved it.

Random quotes:
Rory: "We're dead... again!"
Doctor: "Nothing scary...." (with fright) "...off the scale, off the scale..."
Alex: "Clare can't have kids..." SFX: Der der, da da, der der, da da
Amy: "I take it all back, panic now!"
Old lady: "Must have been them tablets"

Now, at the end, did the Doctor say: "Good to be back together again, in the flesh"
(and if so, is that pertinent or just one of those phrases?)


Loved the Time Lord bedtime stories
I imagine that bullying of the parents will be as scary as the other bits for younger audience.
Speaking of which, all the opening the cupboard stuff, was very well done
Okay, slightly corny denouement (in the dolls' house), but necessary

Teddybrown
September 3rd, 2011, 12:09 PM
Wow, that was quite a good episode, must admit, I jumped at one bit
But i must have a bit of a rant now, I missed most of the episode because I got trapped at work!!! lol, had to watch the recording of it...
Ill take my place at the top back Sealurk!
Some nice quotes and moments in this episode, and some great funny moments.
I love how even with a stand alone episode like this, they still get a bit of the story arc in!

Next week looks good.
Regarding the in the flesh comment, its like the poster in the background last week, could be a coincidence, could be a small slip in...
Need to rewatch this...

Pharaoh Hamenthotep
September 3rd, 2011, 12:10 PM
When Alex is watching television, the announcer made a reference to a show with Kate Humble and Rolf Harris having been shown on the Saturday before... The only one I've been able to find with both presenters is "Test Your Pet" which was shown on the 1st and 8th of May 2004 which would have made George 2..

But then the landlord made a reference to watching Bergerac.. and how it was 30 years old.. Bergerac ran from 1981 to 1991.. If he was watching the pilot episode it would be 30 years old this year.... :eek:

Other than that.. this is the episode Fear Her should have been.. Small scared child with monsters in the wardrobe.. Only it was far better :D

And another reference to the Doctor's children... Are the writers planning something about them for the 50th anniversary and getting the audience prepared by making subtle references to the Doctor's family?

BruTak
September 3rd, 2011, 01:05 PM
Pretty good episode overall.:)

Figured out they were in the dollhouse about fifteen minutes in. Loved the Time Lord bedtime stories.
I would've killed to have had helicopter wallpaper in my bedroom when I was a kid.

I have to wonder, is the business of the Sonic not having a setting for wood a subtle reference to the Golden Age Green Lantern?

Sealurk
September 3rd, 2011, 01:10 PM
I have to wonder, is the business of the Sonic not having a setting for wood a subtle reference to the Golden Age Green Lantern?

See, I always figured that the Doctor chose/built/designed the sonic screwdriver, in all its incarnations, because it couldn't possibly hurt or affect a living thing except to scan - it cannot truly be used as a weapon. Maybe that's the root of its being useless on wood, since wood is an organic, cellular substance that was once alive.

Bit tenuous, I know, but its the best theory I can come up with.

Alan
September 3rd, 2011, 01:57 PM
Really very creepy tale from Mark Gatiss! I thoroughly enjoyed it! Been hearing that kids under the age of 10 have been really frightened by this story...obviously I hope they don't have nightmares but this is just some of what Doctor Who does what it does best! :D

Billz
September 3rd, 2011, 03:31 PM
Wasn't a fan of this episode. There seems to be a recurring pattern. Have never liked the episodes from Mark Gatiss, aside from "The Unquiet Dead".

I just found this to be an uneeded "filler-sode", just to justify the number of ordered episodes.

stargatefan234
September 3rd, 2011, 03:32 PM
Muck :p

Teddybrown
September 3rd, 2011, 03:34 PM
I guess the article I read about being in episode 9 was wrong...
Suprisingly the Sun got something correct... regarding Amy...

Billz
September 3rd, 2011, 03:40 PM
What article?

Skydiver
September 3rd, 2011, 07:06 PM
Pretty good episode overall.:)

Figured out they were in the dollhouse about fifteen minutes in. Loved the Time Lord bedtime stories.
I would've killed to have had helicopter wallpaper in my bedroom when I was a kid.

I have to wonder, is the business of the Sonic not having a setting for wood a subtle reference to the Golden Age Green Lantern?

yeah, i had the dollhouse angle figured out well before he did....i thik the 'painted wooden pan' was the big clue

a nice break from the endless river stuff

Pharaoh Atem
September 3rd, 2011, 07:12 PM
Awful episode.

Dixie_Vampiress
September 3rd, 2011, 07:15 PM
Well that was... Weird. Didn't get to actually watch about half, but what did see was... Weird. And slightly creepy... Definitely scared my little brother!

I do like stand-alone episodes though. I think they're much better for this show than story arcs.

Seems like there was something else I was gonna say... I'll probably remember later. I'm gonna have to watch it again anyway.

Ian-S
September 3rd, 2011, 07:23 PM
Now that was more like the Who I remember as a kid - scaring the crap out of me on a weekly basis :lol:

Carter1994
September 3rd, 2011, 08:27 PM
On the whole, I found the episode sort of... meh.

Ah, well, I suppose it had to happen eventually, seeing as how my "enjoying-streak" lasted for... what, fourteen episodes in a row? Anyway.

The plot felt too broken up (we're on the TARDIS! wondering about a hotel! in a lift! in a flat! in a doll-house! back at the flat! in the cupboard! return of the flat! and... back to the TARDIS again?), and it didn't have much closure, I think. And... I didn't find it scary. Or even creepy, for that matter. Then again, The Empty Child didn't scare me either. I must be insane.

There were some gold moments, though: namely anything that didn't deal directly with the plot. :P The doctor was his usual random, brilliant self: tea, Jammy-Dodgers, the cute little bit with George, and of course the sonic which doesn't do wood. :P

Best part, by far, belonged to Rory. I literally burst out laughing when he immediately came to the conclusion that he'd "died again". :D Poor Rory. Although, he seemed a little OOC in this ep... more like the Rory of last season than Rory the Roman, if you understand me. Maybe he has a closet fear of dollhouses. :P


So, on the whole, a rating of Meh: 6/10

Killdeer
September 3rd, 2011, 09:27 PM
Now, at the end, did the Doctor say: "Good to be back together again, in the flesh"
(and if so, is that pertinent or just one of those phrases?)

I read somewhere that this episode was originally supposed to be in the first half of the season. So maybe it was supposed to be a bit of foreshadowing. It would also explain why no references to Melody/River after what's just happened.

jameshawking
September 3rd, 2011, 11:04 PM
Anyone else actually enjoy that Rory didnt actually die this episode, but Amy did?

It's like the Christmas special of South Park.

BruTak
September 3rd, 2011, 11:34 PM
Were my eyes playing tricks on me, or did I see the raincoat Daniel Mays wore in Ashes To Ashes hanging up behind a door in the flat?

Flyboy
September 4th, 2011, 03:02 AM
Were my eyes playing tricks on me, or did I see the raincoat Daniel Mays wore in Ashes To Ashes hanging up behind a door in the flat?

I didn't see that, but I couldn't get Ashes to Ashes out of my head :P....



This ep has me torn.

On the one hand, creepiest villains ever. Seriously. For the first time Doctor Who has actually left me with a slight chill down my spine.

On the other hand, there was a lot of crap. The old woman, the way she got pulled into the rubbish bins. Why would a little boy in this day and age have a WOODEN dolls house. What will happen to George as he grows up? As has been previously mentioned, it was a very disjointed episode.

There was a very sweet ending with George and his dad, but, still....

Lant3an
September 4th, 2011, 04:15 AM
loved the episode... gets very scary if you watch it at 1am and you hear a noise coming from the kitchen while watching it...and the song at the end...tick tock goes the clock, even for the doctor... brilliant :P

Draygon
September 4th, 2011, 05:06 AM
loved the episode... gets very scary if you watch it at 1am and you hear a noise coming from the kitchen while watching it...and the song at the end...tick tock goes the clock, even for the doctor... brilliant :P
This proves again something Iv'e known for a while and delighted in proving to people in my class when I was at school: singing a nursery rhyme or something with a similar rhythm in a child-like voice and manner is creepy as hell.

I used to terrify my classmates at school with it, even my drama teacher :P It was hilarious.

Alan
September 4th, 2011, 05:38 AM
loved the episode... gets very scary if you watch it at 1am and you hear a noise coming from the kitchen while watching it...and the song at the end...tick tock goes the clock, even for the doctor... brilliant :P

I forgot to mention the rhyme at the end in my last post. Yeah, that was incredibly clever, a wee bit creepy, and a nice bit of foreboding for what is in store for the Doctor. :)

Pharaoh Hamenthotep
September 4th, 2011, 06:13 AM
Why would a little boy in this day and age have a WOODEN dolls house.

Passed down through the family? It was wood.. not plastic so it could have belonged to his grandparents or great-grandparents..

Girlbot
September 4th, 2011, 07:07 AM
I loved this ep. Was nice to see Amy turned into a wooden doll. (not a big Amy fan:P)

jameshawking
September 4th, 2011, 07:46 AM
1) they still make wooden doll houses, even today. True, they're not the easiest ones to find, but they're still fairly populous.

2) The Doctor explained what would happen to the kid as he grew up. Puberty would be interesting, but it would become whatever his parents wanted from him.

BruTak
September 4th, 2011, 08:29 AM
My eldest niece (now 18) had a wooden dollhouse when she was wee. Hand made by a friend of my dad IIRC.

I kind of assumed that George's dollhouse had belonged to his mum.

Spimman
September 4th, 2011, 08:36 PM
I thought this was a fun and creepy episode, took me back a few seasons to when DW was less of a "story arc" mode

Blencathra
September 5th, 2011, 09:42 AM
I feel really sorry for Mark Gatiss. I think in an ordinary show his writing would be considered to be quite good, but when his episode is put on next to one of Steven Moffat's, it looks pretty mediocre.

I liked the peg dolls very much - they were deliciously creepy, and I loved how Rory automatically assumed he had died (again) :P I also loved the list of the Doctor's favourite books. :D

Incidentally I thought the dolls house probably belonged to George's Mum as well. :)

I gave this episode 6/10. Good creepy episode but didn't quite hit the spot for me.

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SGalisa
September 5th, 2011, 11:28 AM
Awful episode.

That's what I was saying *before* I watched the eppy (due to seeing the preview commercials for it)..! EEEEEEEEEEEK! I hate creepy. Seen that sort of doll stuff in an old "Trilogy of Terror" (type of) film from some troll doll that came to life and terrorized the life out of its owner.

What made this story different, aside from the alien kid aspect, was that when the existing wooden doll touched a human, the human turned into a wooden doll as well. :eek:
Poor Amy. But somehow, I figured she'd have to get turned back into being human again. I wasn't sure about the others, but Amy has a few more eps before she moves on to another job. So, I had high hopes for at least Amy. :D

Also, the overall story result was better than I expected. :)
I didn't want to watch it at all, but my hubby did want to see it (actually, he had no idea what the story was about, but I had already seen the previews, and dreaded the worst).. so we watched it together. ;)



...This ep has me torn.

On the one hand, creepiest villains ever. Seriously. For the first time Doctor Who has actually left me with a slight chill down my spine...

Yes.. creepy villians (the wooden dolls). But my first super scariest Doctor Who eppy was a Tom Baker era one, where some guy turned into a giant tree and with its *tentacle* branches killed people. It also telepathically caused other plants to turn against the humans, as well. That was basically the 2nd ep of DW I ever saw, (first one was "Ark in Space" with the WIRN, where humans turned into giant wasps), with the freaky tree story one next (out of viewing order??).

I swore back then in the early 1980's that no wonder kids were having nightmares with Tv/movie shows like that!
I also only saw bits and pieces of those eps, so I did not know who the Doctor was, nor that the entire show was an amazing time traveling story into any direction and story type ever imagined. Beautiful Sarah Jane Smith helped set me straight on that.. along with my mom who was addicted to watching the series every week (including any reruns), too.

Teddybrown
September 5th, 2011, 12:27 PM
Tick tock goes the clock
And what now shall we play?
Tick tock goes the clock
Now summer’s gone away? (Missing from video)

Tick tock goes the clock
And what then shall we see?
Tick tock until the day
That thou shalt marry me

Tick tock goes the clock
And all the years they fly
Tick tock and all too soon
You and I must die

Tick tock goes the clock
We laughed at fate and mourned her
Tick tock goes the clock
Even for the Doctor

Tick tock goes the clock
He cradled her and he rocked her
Tick tock goes the clock
Even for the Doctor…

Heres a full version of the song at the end...

rosey_angel
September 5th, 2011, 05:03 PM
This was a good episode, although I wondered throughout the entire thing why it took the parents so long to get the poor kid some help. I was kind of hoping that it would turn out there was some sort of alien/psychic thing tapping into his already different brain. The sudden fears, the continuous flicking of the lights, the twitched... I was yelling at the screen that the poor kid has OCD.

But apart from that, it was quite a good ep. I too figured out quite early on that it was a dollhouse and wondered why Amy didn't. As for George having one I thought it was his mum's. I didn't get that the kid was an alien, but then I was thinking it would be something else, like I said above.

Good ep, love the song

Jinglepie
September 5th, 2011, 05:39 PM
See, I always figured that the Doctor chose/built/designed the sonic screwdriver, in all its incarnations, because it couldn't possibly hurt or affect a living thing except to scan - it cannot truly be used as a weapon. Maybe that's the root of its being useless on wood, since wood is an organic, cellular substance that was once alive.

Bit tenuous, I know, but its the best theory I can come up with.

We've seen the sonic used in a variety of ways on organics other than simply to scan; e.g. the minor heal function in Vampires of Venice, the frequency that made the beast in the Vincent episode 'happy', etc. The "anti-offensive" nature of it is a good thought, but manipulating wood doesn't have to necessarily be damaging or warping it, so in the right (or most) situation(s) it shouldn't really be considered an offensive action.

Carter1994
September 5th, 2011, 06:09 PM
Heres a full version of the song at the end...

That rhyme almost makes me want to bump my rating up a half point. Thanks for posting the whole thing. :)

I do love a good, haunting, nursery rhyme. Although "haunting nursery rhyme" that might be a bit redundant... (like Rock-a-bye-baby! seriously!).

Lahela
September 5th, 2011, 10:07 PM
Doctor Who continues its ability to scare the willies out of me :o

I had to laugh at the clowns reference when Alex was listing off the things George is afraid of (what was the Doctor's reply? "Don't blame him"? Something like that) as it was a classic Who story that made me terrified of them!

DigiFluid
September 6th, 2011, 09:52 AM
Not bad. Some holes, but not bad. I liked the dolls especially. Frakkin' creepy!

jameshawking
September 6th, 2011, 05:32 PM
@Lahela:

He said "Understandable" in a long, drawn-out way.

Lahela
September 7th, 2011, 02:20 AM
@Lahela:

He said "Understandable" in a long, drawn-out way.

Thanks :) I haven't had time for a rewatch yet. He's right, of course! :)

Darren
September 7th, 2011, 04:05 PM
Really, really bored by this episode.

The dolls should have been creepy, but I found the whole set-up cookie-cutter Doctor Who and the chase around the house pointless. I think the problem here is that the set-up and creep factor was all in the episode teaser, so (after the wooden pan tip that they're in a dollhouse, not that it really mattered) it took forever for the characters to catch up with what we as the audience already knew. The first half of the episode was spent with the whole "creeped out by what you don't see" -- but we knew exactly what was going on, and there was no real jeopardy.

I loved Daniel Mays from Outcasts, and the ending with the boy was sweet. Otherwise, the rest was flying rubbish.

Matt G
September 10th, 2011, 04:49 PM
1. Danny Mays - guess he was going to wind up in Who eventually.

2. Initially thought everything was just an alternate reality, didn't call the alien-cuckoo thing.

3. Thought it was going to be a two parter at one point - turned out to be a bit of a dodgy reset button.

4. "In the flesh" Hmmm...

Pharaoh Atem
September 11th, 2011, 10:51 PM
Really, really bored by this episode.

The dolls should have been creepy, but I found the whole set-up cookie-cutter Doctor Who and the chase around the house pointless. I think the problem here is that the set-up and creep factor was all in the episode teaser, so (after the wooden pan tip that they're in a dollhouse, not that it really mattered) it took forever for the characters to catch up with what we as the audience already knew. The first half of the episode was spent with the whole "creeped out by what you don't see" -- but we knew exactly what was going on, and there was no real jeopardy.

I loved Daniel Mays from Outcasts, and the ending with the boy was sweet. Otherwise, the rest was flying rubbish. about sums up how many many people felt

Alan
September 12th, 2011, 03:02 AM
about sums up how many many people felt

Speak for yourselves. It doesn't sum up how I and many many other people felt and especially the children.

Blencathra
September 12th, 2011, 05:55 AM
Yeah, I've got to say my eleven year old particularly liked this episode. Perhaps you have to be a certain age to appreciate this one fully. :)

Lahela
September 12th, 2011, 12:23 PM
Yeah, I've got to say my eleven year old particularly liked this episode. Perhaps you have to be a certain age to appreciate this one fully. :)

My 13yo, too. Loved it, and made fun of me for being frightened :o

jameshawking
September 13th, 2011, 03:02 PM
Evil Thought



What if River....kills George?

Carter1994
September 13th, 2011, 04:36 PM
:eek:

Unless George is at least ten years older? Never happen. Killing a child on screen, especially one that's played a semi-large role, is something that's generally considered off-limits (especially since DW is a family show).

jameshawking
September 13th, 2011, 05:17 PM
Well he obviously would've grown, since then.

But it's said he can become anything he wanted, and nobody who ever meets the Doctor DOESN'T want to be with him, somehow.

morbosfist
September 13th, 2011, 06:09 PM
Yeah, but how would the kid know what the Doctor is? All he has to go on is the one meeting, and little George can only imagine what he knows of him.

jameshawking
September 14th, 2011, 09:44 AM
Little kid is obviously insanely psychic, and capable of holding things inside himself he's not even aware of.

Wouldn't be out of the question for him to have taken the doctor into himself at some point.

That's also not accounting for the possibility that his dad might want him to be like the Doctor, smart, keen, etc

mi_guard
September 16th, 2011, 07:33 AM
Doctor: “Haven’t done this in a while.”
Amy: “What are you doing?”
Doctor: “Making a house call.”

:)

Dusk
October 12th, 2011, 03:56 AM
Top episode! Much better than that bad LSD trip in the previous installment.

I think DW is at its best when it's simple, unpretentious and set in ordinary surroundings. It makes the fantasy elements more extraordinary.

I find it fascinating that there are viewers who love the plot-centric stories and others who enjoy the stand alone stories. True fans never label an episode as "filler".

maneth
June 19th, 2013, 10:27 AM
Hmmm... A bit lackluster for me, but I'm glad my 4 year old didn't see it.

Girlbot
June 19th, 2013, 10:47 AM
I enjoyed this episode. The little boy's fear was well acted. It was interesting to find out just what the little guy was.

maneth
June 20th, 2013, 09:09 PM
I agree with you on the boy, he did a good job.