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Angela V
July 8th, 2011, 08:19 PM
http://www.spacecast.com/article/The-Miracle-Day-Approaches

Linky above from Space's website.

Saturday show is UK version. Tuesday show is USA version.

How AWESOME is that? :jack_new_anime07:

LtColCarter
July 9th, 2011, 07:31 AM
http://www.spacecast.com/article/The-Miracle-Day-Approaches

Linky above from Space's website.

Saturday show is UK version. Tuesday show is USA version.

How AWESOME is that? :jack_new_anime07:

There are two version?

SaberBlade
July 9th, 2011, 01:26 PM
There are two version?

That's what I was wondering. I'd suspect Starz of being able to air a more.... .... ... I can't think of the word I want. Basically able to show it without cutting it into pieces by removing anything slightly naughty or objectionable, compared to a regular US channel. I'm very curious to see who cut or censored it the most as I'd be more interested in seeing the longer version.

If someone is able to watch it on Space tonight and compare it to the US version, I wouldn't expect a list of differences but would be nice to find out which is the better of the two.

DigiFluid
July 9th, 2011, 06:08 PM
Yes there are two versions. Alan posted about it a few days back in the News thread. Copy/pasting him:




Last week, Doctor Who Magazine editor Tom Spilsbury commented on Twitter that there would be slightly different versions of Miracle Day for the US and UK broadcast, adding yesterday that "they haven't started with one 'master version' and cut it for the UK. They've prepared two parallel edits for different markets." Russell T Davies had previously mentioned in his interview with Front Row that Jack is a 'childrens hero', and clarifies in the new Issue 436 of DWM that 'racier' scenes might be edited for a BBC audience.

Attendees at last week's BFI preview had reported that The New World seemed longer than the fifty minutes originally reported in the Cannes press release; this is also confirmed in DWM, with UK episodes expected to run for some 54 minutes whereas episodes on Starz would run for 50-51 minutes. Davies pointed out that this isn't a cut to the US version, but extra material added to the UK one!

Link to original article here: http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2011/06...new-world.html




Completely moronic, IMO.

SaberBlade
July 9th, 2011, 06:52 PM
I wanted to be a smug git about the UK getting 3-4 extra minutes, but then I remembered that Canada is also getting those 3-4 minutes. Damn Canadians.

Seriously though, it does interest me in why the different. I'm thinking that despite Starz being a premium channel, that if it works anything like similar channels in the UK, it still needs to fill in time between the end of one show, and the beginning of another with some of advertisements. The US version may have been specifically cut to a 50 minute format to fit into a predetermined timeslot as not to cut down on commercials. The BBC isn't like that (it doesn't air any commercials, just advertisements for it's own content) so it has been able to be cut longer.

I can just see the US DVD/Blu-rays though. Torchwood: Miracle Day - Extended Edition. Bonus Features include paying extra for footage that the UK and Canada has already seen.

Spimman
July 9th, 2011, 09:37 PM
The irony is that Starz may show stuff to objectionable for BBC while all previous seasons of Torchwood had language that would never be allowed on normal cable television.

I'll be interested to hear a comparison review when someone has the time.

LtColCarter
July 10th, 2011, 06:59 AM
Interesting. I noticed that after the episode aired here in the US there was a commercial on about webisodes. So, I guess that's how we'll get the extra information.

Angela V
July 11th, 2011, 09:17 PM
I'm recording the USA version on Tuesday. The UK version timeslot gives about 5 minutes longer. So I'm not sure if I'll notice what is different, but I'm curious!

DigiFluid
July 11th, 2011, 09:20 PM
Interesting. I noticed that after the episode aired here in the US there was a commercial on about webisodes. So, I guess that's how we'll get the extra information.

"Torchwood: Web of Lies"? No, that's something completely different.

shipper hannah
July 13th, 2011, 05:13 PM
Since when was Torchwood a children's show? It has always been a more mature show. I don't know what in it could be more objectionable to what may have been in the show previously.

LtColCarter
July 13th, 2011, 05:17 PM
Since when was Torchwood a children's show? It has always been a more mature show. I don't know what in it could be more objectionable to what may have been in the show previously.

Anyone have a link to the extra scenes? I'd like to see them.

mathpiglet
July 13th, 2011, 05:28 PM
I watched the episode on SPACE last Saturday and it was longer than 1 hour. I missed the Tuesday episode.

LtColCarter
July 13th, 2011, 07:34 PM
I watched the episode on SPACE last Saturday and it was longer than 1 hour. I missed the Tuesday episode.

I wonder if there is a way to see those episodes in the states?

*edit* tried going to SPACE's wedsite and clicked on "watch full episode" but it wouldn't play. :(

SaberBlade
July 14th, 2011, 04:30 AM
I wonder if there is a way to see those episodes in the states?

*edit* tried going to SPACE's wedsite and clicked on "watch full episode" but it wouldn't play. :(

Well you could always try using a program which uses a proxy to fake your location. It's not a problem finding a program that uses a US proxy (I've used one to watch Hulu), a Canadian proxy might be an issue though so may be easier to use other methods.

The show starts in the UK tonight. Like always, I'll avoid it on TV and watch it online (BBC iPlayer) as that way I can at least contribute to the shows online ratings since I'm not in one of the 5,000 homes used to measure ratings. I'll look forward to finding out what stuff was removed from the US version.

Tanith0709
July 14th, 2011, 03:24 PM
UK version aired tonight, was there much of a difference?

I guess this question is mostly directed at those who downloaded the US version out of impatience :D

never_on_earth
July 14th, 2011, 03:27 PM
Anyone have a link to the extra scenes? I'd like to see them.
Ok, I put a lot of efforts in trying to find a way to watch the episode on BBC iPlayer, and i did, just now. May I say, it is not worth the trouble, not for this episode anyway. No extra scenes, the only reason why it's 54ish minutes instead of 51ish, it's because they did some kind of clip show for the whole season that lasts 2/3 minutes.
And mathpiglet, sorry but I don't see how it could have been longer than 1h on SPACE. But if you're right, I'd love to watch it. Anyway, good premiere even though a little too american for my taste. But we'll see.

Oh, and LTT, if you want to check it out anyway, just say so and i'll PM you the trick I used to watch on BBC (because it took me a long time to figure it out, and really, I don't wish for you to waste your time the way I did).

:)

LtColCarter
July 14th, 2011, 07:43 PM
Ok, I put a lot of efforts in trying to find a way to watch the episode on BBC iPlayer, and i did, just now. May I say, it is not worth the trouble, not for this episode anyway. No extra scenes, the only reason why it's 54ish minutes instead of 51ish, it's because they did some kind of clip show for the whole season that lasts 2/3 minutes.
And mathpiglet, sorry but I don't see how it could have been longer than 1h on SPACE. But if you're right, I'd love to watch it. Anyway, good premiere even though a little too american for my taste. But we'll see.

Oh, and LTT, if you want to check it out anyway, just say so and i'll PM you the trick I used to watch on BBC (because it took me a long time to figure it out, and really, I don't wish for you to waste your time the way I did).

:)

Thanks for letting me know. If its just a preview of what's to come...I'll pass on it. Maybe in the future these extra minutes will have worthwhile footage.

Angela V
July 14th, 2011, 07:50 PM
Okay, my Space recording of the UK version schedule had a timeslot of 9:10pm- 10:20pm (Outcasts airs before hand and runs over an hour too)
The USA schedule had a timeslot of 8:pm- 9:05pm

I noticed no difference in the episodes except for some of the commercial breaks were in different spots. The UK spot had a long preview of the rest of the season, the US spot did not. So if there is going to be some differences, maybe it's for later episodes? Or special little tidbits at the end?

LtColCarter
July 14th, 2011, 07:52 PM
Okay, my Space recording of the UK version schedule had a timeslot of 9:10pm- 10:20pm (Outcasts airs before hand and runs over an hour too)
The USA schedule had a timeslot of 8:pm- 9:05pm

I noticed no difference in the episodes except for some of the commercial breaks were in different spots. The UK spot had a long preview of the rest of the season, the US spot did not. So if there is going to be some differences, maybe it's for later episodes? Or special little tidbits at the end?

Wonder why they (the networks) are doing this?

never_on_earth
July 15th, 2011, 01:21 AM
Probably because they can ;) No, really though. I guess different audience calls for different version, or whatever. The fact is, they decided to take a flight to America, probably so that they would broaden their audience. But american people don't have the same taste for TV series as British people (I talk generality, here). So they have to adapt. But they know that they might lose part of their original audience if they changed too much of the original atmosphere, humour, etc... so they had to find a solution. And since it costs a lot of money to cut scene and add new ones, it means that they have the... means.
So, yeah, they do it because they can.
Just MHO.

LtColCarter
July 15th, 2011, 07:40 AM
Probably because they can ;) No, really though. I guess different audience calls for different version, or whatever. The fact is, they decided to take a flight to America, probably so that they would broaden their audience. But american people don't have the same taste for TV series as British people (I talk generality, here). So they have to adapt. But they know that they might lose part of their original audience if they changed too much of the original atmosphere, humour, etc... so they had to find a solution. And since it costs a lot of money to cut scene and add new ones, it means that they have the... means.
So, yeah, they do it because they can.
Just MHO.

I think that's why networks do a lot of things they do...just because they can.

knowles2
August 6th, 2011, 07:12 AM
(it doesn't air any commercials, just advertisements for it's own content)

An the odd reminder about paying the license fees.