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GateWorld
July 5th, 2011, 06:21 PM
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 306</FONT>
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Fargo becomes trapped in a video game inspired by Warehouse 13 and requires help from Pete, Claudia and Myka. Meanwhile, Stukowski recruits Artie and Steve to help with a case, and catches them stealing an artifact. <I>(TV Guide)</I>

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MIZA
August 15th, 2011, 11:25 PM
great episode didn't like the graphic too much, and I am really hoping something bad happens to Agent Stukowski I do not like her at all

Trynki
August 16th, 2011, 08:03 AM
Fantastic episode! I liked the graphics, very original.
Is Myka imitating Agent Stukowski in the 'previously on warehouse 13' ?

lordofseas
August 16th, 2011, 08:15 AM
Great storyline. I'm glad we got to have some character development on Jinksy and Claudia. We got to see some of what Claudia hated about her institutionalization, and Jinksy is very...trusting.

Spimman
August 16th, 2011, 12:39 PM
Agent Stukowski is just such an unconvincing character I kind of get frustrated at how easily she is tricking them all. Pete get's vibes about things\people but has noticed nothing, Jinx is a human lie detector but believes everything she is saying without suspicion and even Artie was fooled...Artie!!!

This episode rated as mediocre for me, both plotlines. Which is sad because the crossover episodes were awesome last season!

Girlbot
August 16th, 2011, 12:43 PM
Agent Stukowski is just such an unconvincing character I kind of get frustrated at how easily she is tricking them all. Pete get's vibes about things\people but has noticed nothing, Jinx is a human lie detector but believes everything she is saying without suspicion and even Artie was fooled...Artie!!!

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I agree totally. Why wouldn't Jinx be able to tell she is lieing? I'm not really liking new guy:(

lordofseas
August 16th, 2011, 12:56 PM
I agree totally. Why wouldn't Jinx be able to tell she is lieing? I'm not really liking new guy:(

Because, technically, I don't think she's spoken a lie. She simply hasn't spoken the whole truth. I figure his lie-detecting skills only work when someone is telling an outright lie, rather than a shade of grey.

Killdeer
August 16th, 2011, 01:17 PM
I actually loved the video game storyline for the most part, although Fargo's appearance doesn't seem to work real well with current events in Eureka...how would Fargo have time to go play video games with his buddies during the apparent nonstop preparations for the Astraeus mission?

I didn't care so much for the other storyline. I really can't stand Agent Sally, and while I was starting to like Jinx, I'm starting to think they're setting him up to be killed off at the end of the season, perhaps after being sadly duped by this other shadow group.

I thought Pete's chiding Fargo about playing with artifacts was hilariously hypocritical - I'm sure if Myka had heard it she would have had something to say. ;)

I also thought the nods to Eureka characters were cute - the "dagger of Josephine" and "Carter's Curse", although I feel like I'm missing something about the whole disco ball thing.

lookupwardsnshare
August 16th, 2011, 02:11 PM
This episode is kinda a combination of two episodes from other sci-fi shows. The first is the Farscape episode "John Quixote" when Chiana and Crichton are trapped in a game and have to rescue a "princess in a tower" inorder to get out and are dressed in costumes. The second is the SG-1 episode "Gamekeeper" when they are all stuck in a virtual reality game that feeds on their worst memories and they have to keep re-living them. It had a Warehouse 13 twist, but been there done that. Writers could have came up with a better story.



I actually loved the video game storyline for the most part, although Fargo's appearance doesn't seem to work real well with current events in Eureka...how would Fargo have time to go play video games with his buddies during the apparent nonstop preparations for the Astraeus mission?

I would have to agree. I was thinking the same thing when I was watching it.

Not one of my favs.

IcarusAbides
August 16th, 2011, 03:52 PM
This episode is kinda a combination of two episodes from other sci-fi shows. The first is the Farscape episode "John Quixote" when Chiana and Crichton are trapped in a game and have to rescue a "princess in a tower" inorder to get out and are dressed in costumes. The second is the SG-1 episode "Gamekeeper" when they are all stuck in a virtual reality game that feeds on their worst memories and they have to keep re-living them. It had a Warehouse 13 twist, but been there done that. Writers could have came up with a better story.


It really reminded me of that Farscape episodes as well.

As for the episode itself I'm not a fan of the crossover between Warehouse and Eureka, I don't think it makes as much sense as people seem to think. The episode itself had some funny moments but it reminded me too much of the similar Farscape episode for me to enjoy as much as I might have done.

mandogater
August 16th, 2011, 07:37 PM
I'm with everyone who wasn't found of the video game part and how could Jinks get played so easily.

And for the $25,000 question. What came out of the painting the Dirty FBI agent gave Artie and how long until they come into play?

lordofseas
August 16th, 2011, 08:44 PM
See, but I think it's because she hasn't lied to him yet. I don't think she's actually told a direct lie in front of Jinksy.

mandogater
August 16th, 2011, 10:23 PM
See, but I think it's because she hasn't lied to him yet. I don't think she's actually told a direct lie in front of Jinksy.

I see your point but her attitude and threatening to shoot Pete on site should put him more on his guard around her.

lordofseas
August 16th, 2011, 11:14 PM
I see your point but her attitude and threatening to shoot Pete on site should put him more on his guard around her.

Yes, but that can be attributed to her being a probie, and not knowing the ropes. He was viewing her as an immature FBI agent, who felt she had something to prove. He knew that she could never have shot Pete, as she was an FBI agent. Now that's a lie he could discern, most likely. If she never had the intention to shoot him, nor the right provocation at that moment, it would be a lie, and he could tell, and relax.

MIZA
August 16th, 2011, 11:35 PM
I'm with everyone who wasn't found of the video game part and how could Jinks get played so easily.

And for the $25,000 question. What came out of the painting the Dirty FBI agent gave Artie and how long until they come into play?


they look like some kind of nanites maybe to destroy the warehouse artifacts

argh I hate these evil agencies trying to destroy the warehouse

tomstone
August 17th, 2011, 03:50 AM
they look like some kind of nanites maybe to destroy the warehouse artifacts

argh I hate these evil agencies trying to destroy the warehouse

Why Destroy if you can take over?

Skydiver
August 17th, 2011, 04:40 AM
it has to be to take it over or get something out of the warehouse

i don't know if you can destroy some of the artifacts

Girlbot
August 17th, 2011, 06:24 AM
First Stargate, then Eureka, now WH13. I tire of the nanite scenario:(

Spimman
August 17th, 2011, 06:51 AM
Because, technically, I don't think she's spoken a lie. She simply hasn't spoken the whole truth. I figure his lie-detecting skills only work when someone is telling an outright lie, rather than a shade of grey.


See, but I think it's because she hasn't lied to him yet. I don't think she's actually told a direct lie in front of Jinksy.

Than he isn't asking the right questions, which he should be trained to do with anyone he finds suspicious. Wouldn't her explanation of why she ran away with the painting have been a lie since she actually was planting a bug within it?


First Stargate, then Eureka, now WH13. I tire of the nanite scenario:(

Word

lordofseas
August 17th, 2011, 01:11 PM
Than he isn't asking the right questions, which he should be trained to do with anyone he finds suspicious. Wouldn't her explanation of why she ran away with the painting have been a lie since she actually was planting a bug within it?

Ok, let's start on the premise that the truth is objective. People can speak fact or fiction as truth, if they do so believe in it. Now her line was something akin to "I was going to come back to you after I got the painting somewhere safe." In her opinion, the concept of getting it to her boss to the purpose of infesting it with bugs is quite safe: for her. So, technically, she has not lied. In fact, we see that Jinks trusts her. When we see her give back the painting, he said something to the effect of "See, nothing to worry about." He trusts her, and has no reason (yet) to suspect that she's lying. It wouldn't make sense for him to "grill" her, and I don't think she would respond amicably to it either, she would say, "My boss says I'm forbidden to tell,". It's not a lie, it's just not the complete truth, and she believes it to be true.

SunKrux
August 17th, 2011, 02:13 PM
First Stargate, then Eureka, now WH13. I tire of the nanite scenario:(

At least these nanites look like dragonflies rather than roaches or spiders. :D

I rather enjoyed the ep. I long ago gave up on the show sticking to any kind of cohesive continuity (come on people, it started with Claudia's age and just kept going) and just enjoy the ride for what it is, fun and well done character development of the emotional kind. I find all of the WH13 characters pretty well rounded and flawed and fun to watch. Right now, that's all I really want or need out of a show and WH13 gives it to me like no other show has in years.

MIZA
August 17th, 2011, 02:23 PM
At least these nanites look like dragonflies rather than roaches or spiders. :D

I rather enjoyed the ep. I long ago gave up on the show sticking to any kind of cohesive continuity (come on people, it started with Claudia's age and just kept going) and just enjoy the ride for what it is, fun and well done character development of the emotional kind. I find all of the WH13 characters pretty well rounded and flawed and fun to watch. Right now, that's all I really want or need out of a show and WH13 gives it to me like no other show has in years.
i am glad you feel that way but I feel sad because Claudia and Fargo won't get together , and I was hoping for that

rosey_angel
August 17th, 2011, 03:58 PM
I loved seeing Artie and Jinx together, but that whole storyline annoyed me. Like most people here, I don't like Agent Sally, and I was hoping that this would be the ep that would out her, so they could just get on with hunting her or whatever. Instead, now she's still walking around with that annoying accent. (I don't have anything against southerners but hers really grates on me).

I liked the game storyline. Yes, it was similar to the Farcape ep but being trapped inside a video game is such an old sci-fi trope that it didn't bother me. I didn't like how... immature, they made Fargo. As a character he is very young but he has matured a lot especially in this last season of Eureka but he has used an artifact and he didn't even tell them that he found an artifact. Then using the game without programming everything into it? Yes, Fargo always acts before he thinks but this just irked me.

But other than that, I liked all of the pop culture references, and I want to watch it again to count how many there were lol. And I loved the Claudia arc. Well done WH

mandogater
August 17th, 2011, 10:54 PM
Yes, but that can be attributed to her being a probie, and not knowing the ropes. He was viewing her as an immature FBI agent, who felt she had something to prove. He knew that she could never have shot Pete, as she was an FBI agent. Now that's a lie he could discern, most likely. If she never had the intention to shoot him, nor the right provocation at that moment, it would be a lie, and he could tell, and relax.

But immature comments of that nature could very easily get her fired and make it very hard for her to ever own a gun again. So not exactly the kind of agent you would really want out in the field, hense someone to keep a very close eye on when forced to work with her.

DSG1
August 17th, 2011, 11:32 PM
Sally's voice is like nails on a chalkboard, please get rid of her!!!! and she is fugly and hard on the eyes!

Video games have been done too death. Im tired of them. They are the same. Boring. Getting tired of Claudia too. she is getting on my nerves more than Sally.

Does every dam episode have to be about Claudia?

I watch for Leena and Artie and so far I've seen very little of them.

Games and comic books. I wish the writer's of Warehouse 13 would grow up.


(mho)

lordofseas
August 18th, 2011, 09:32 AM
But immature comments of that nature could very easily get her fired and make it very hard for her to ever own a gun again. So not exactly the kind of agent you would really want out in the field, hense someone to keep a very close eye on when forced to work with her.

Yes, but she's infiltrated the FBI, so they wouldn't think to keep tabs on her. And Jinks is not police, nor a FBI watchdog, so as long as the Artifact and his co-workers don't actually get harmed, I don't think he minds the immature comments from someone he can't do anything about.

Spimman
August 18th, 2011, 09:57 AM
Ok, let's start on the premise that the truth is objective. People can speak fact or fiction as truth, if they do so believe in it. Now her line was something akin to "I was going to come back to you after I got the painting somewhere safe." In her opinion, the concept of getting it to her boss to the purpose of infesting it with bugs is quite safe: for her. So, technically, she has not lied. In fact, we see that Jinks trusts her. When we see her give back the painting, he said something to the effect of "See, nothing to worry about." He trusts her, and has no reason (yet) to suspect that she's lying. It wouldn't make sense for him to "grill" her, and I don't think she would respond amicably to it either, she would say, "My boss says I'm forbidden to tell,". It's not a lie, it's just not the complete truth, and she believes it to be true.

Perhaps, but I'm not sure that is completely consistent with the Jinx we were originally introduced to that could spot a lie a mile away without any effort, if anything it was a bit of a curse.

His trust also makes him seem naive, as did him continually spilling his guts to her. She has, at the very least, done enough odd things to raise a suspicious eye to a highly trained federal\warehouse agent.

lordofseas
August 18th, 2011, 10:57 AM
LOL, I just realized, I meant "subjective" not "objective" in my post.

But yes, I do think that Jinks, because of his gift, is rather naive.

Girlbot
August 18th, 2011, 11:08 AM
Jinks seems to have gotten more progressively more naive.

SunKrux
August 18th, 2011, 07:40 PM
Fantastic episode! I liked the graphics, very original.
Is Myka imitating Agent Stukowski in the 'previously on warehouse 13' ?

No that was not Myka. It was Agent Stukowski, unfortunately. I don't mind the actress but her "southern" accent, one of the worst I've ever heard. It's like nails on chalk board for me, and I'm from the South.

LtColCarter
August 21st, 2011, 10:51 AM
Loved the video game angle...

lordofseas
August 21st, 2011, 11:07 AM
No that was not Myka. It was Agent Stukowski, unfortunately. I don't mind the actress but her "southern" accent, one of the worst I've ever heard. It's like nails on chalk board for me, and I'm from the South.

Definitely not my favourite form of that accent.

Magnecite
August 31st, 2011, 04:06 PM
Watched it, don't understand why anyone would put Fargo in charge of anything in Eureka. I wonder if Jinks has read the manual, he seems rather open for a Warehouse Agent and his superpowers aren't exactly reliable. This episode isn't that great. Forgettable fluff.