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MattSilver 3k
June 5th, 2011, 09:48 PM
:( :( :(

http://i.cdn.hbo.com/assets/images/series/game-of-thrones/character/syrio-forel-160.jpg

"The First Sword of Bravos does not run."

:( :( :(

Awesome, awesome episode. I'm going to write up another King's Landing Chronicle entry after my rewatch. Maybe.

The Mighty 6 platoon
June 6th, 2011, 04:37 AM
Erm, firstly where is everybody? The most epic epsidoe yet needs more love. :(

But on a happy note, damn, that was good, probably one of the best, if not the best episode yet. The first half was faster paced than the second half, but it didn't stop both parts being awesome. The opening minutes were epic, as the fighting took place throughout the Red Keep, the last stand of Septa Mordane, the Hound coming for Sansa. Topped off by SYRIO FOREL! and his badass scene. "The First sword of Braavos does not run".

Across the Narrow Sea was also very good as well. Emilia Clarke has developed such a commanding presence, you believe her performance when she starts ordering people around. Jason Momoa was brilliant as well, really gruesome fight scene, loved it.

Tyrion and the hill tribes were funny as hell and Charles Dance continues to rock as Tywin. In general although the episode slowed in pace in the second half it was still excellent. The feeling was that the whole realm was slipping into war. Robb was great, as was Greatjon Umber. Great casting there. Bits with Bran, Rickon, Osha and Hodor were also excellent. I loved Ser Barristan's at the end as well. We've yet to even see him swing a sword and yet he is completely believable as the greatest Knight in the realm.

In fact my only criticism of the ep would be the stuff at the wall, specifically the Wight attack. It was good, but I felt it could have been scarier. Still overall the episode scores top marks from me. It also seemed to be a bit more epic. There was the brilliant shot of the ravens leaving Winterfell (that sent shivers down my spine), lots of shots of the army's camps (and the Keep next to Robb's) and that cool shot where the camera moved up and looked over the wall. There's probably plenty of other moments I've missed in my post here, the ep was jam packed full of great stuff. Anyway, come on next weeks ep, this is going to be a hell of a wait. :D

gotthammer
June 6th, 2011, 04:52 AM
Gah. At times I kinda wish I haven't read the books yet (as some of the scenes lose their 'coolness'). :D

Stuff I liked:
- all those ravens leaving Winterfell to muster the North. That was just...awesome. :D
(but also the scene that I referred to as losing it's 'coolness', since I know what happens later...still, it was awesome seeing that)
- Tyrion & Bronn & Shagga & friends...and Shagga's demand at Tywin's tent :D
- Barristan Selmy's bit in the throne room
- Syrio Forel :D (I just wished the fight scene was smoother/faster...still, it was quite good)
- the scene in the Lord Commander of the Night's Watch's room (I do agree w/ M6P: it could've been scarier/better)
- Umber's fingers :D
- Cersei's face in the early scene w/ Sansa (it was like: is she THAT stupid?!? :D I think Sansa's line was: "I won't hatch anything" :lol: )

WTF scene:
- Hodor :lol:

Great episode...I just have one complaint (the usual one): It's TOO SHORT!!! :P

The Mighty 6 platoon
June 6th, 2011, 05:03 AM
- Barristan Selmy's bit in the throne room

"I could cut through the 5 of you like carving a cake!"


WTF scene:
- Hodor :lol:
That was hilarious in a random way. Hodor certainly seems ahem, large, in all areas. :P

Great episode...I just have one complaint (the usual one): It's TOO SHORT!!! :P
Indeed, need more. :D

magictrick
June 6th, 2011, 05:53 AM
One thing I noticed about this episode is that it covered a lot more from the book's timeline perspective than any of the others so far. Like Robb assembling the armies of the North all in one episode and already talking about battles with Jaime. And Tyrion recruiting the wild tribes and reaching his father's camp. It felt a bit rushed to me, but again, there's a lot of information to cover so can't really blame them.

I think they're doing a great job with Dany and how they are depicting her transformation.

VampyreWraith
June 6th, 2011, 06:10 AM
I liked that the wolves were seen a bit in this episode. The direwolves and their bond with the Stark children were one of my favorite things in the books; particularly the bond between Jon and Ghost. Working with the dogs probably wasn't the easiest or most practicle thing, so not having them around so much is understandable (to me, anyway); though I really do enjoy the scenes with the direwolves.
I'm glad they showed Ghost warning Jon about the wight attack. The attack itself wasn't so cool though; it could've been longer and scarier(like others have also mentioned). Sometimes I feel like the stuff going on at the wall(and the parts of the story that take place in the North) seems a bit rushed and clipped in order to give more time to whats going on in Kings Landing with Ned(not so much in this episode, but in the others). I do understand that they can't include everything from the books on the tv series. I probably feel that way though, because the events at the Wall and in the North happen to be my favorite parts of the books. :)
I liked the scenes at Winterfell. Robb gathering the men to fight was good; his wolf attacking Umber was cool. Osha talking to Bran by the Weirwood tree was great. I lol'd at the Hodor part. I also enjoyed the scene between Rickon and Bran.
Syrio was great, I loved that fight scene. I also really liked the fight scene with Drogo. Tyrion and Bronn's , and Tyrion and Tywin's scenes were good too. Overall, I really enjoyed the episode, and I can't wait until next week. :)

The Mighty 6 platoon
June 6th, 2011, 06:29 AM
Hmm the HBO ness was down this week. Though there was a lot of fighting at the start many of the deaths were implied or were left uncertain about. And no lesbians. :( :P

Still there was a 12 year old getting stabbed in the gut, fingers being bitten off, Hodor's massive endowment and Drogo tearing out a guys tongue.

Like any good show, GOT doesn't need to rely on violence, sex or swearing to be awesome. Still when it does bring out the violence and the sex it knows how to use them (and to show you something you've never seen before, like Khal Drogo deciding that tearing a man's tongue out of his mouth was too mainstream, so he slashed the guys throat open and tore it out that way).

magictrick
June 6th, 2011, 06:32 AM
Hmm the HBO ness was down this week. Though there was a lot of fighting at the start many of the deaths were implied or were left uncertain about. And no lesbians. :( :P


Well that's just staying true to the book, no argument there. The Syrio scene especially was well done I thought.

VampyreWraith
June 6th, 2011, 06:33 AM
Hodor was way better than the lesbians lol :P

gotthammer
June 6th, 2011, 07:19 AM
The Syrio scene especially was well done I thought.

Yup. :D

re: the lesbians
was that even in the book? :D
(my copy still hasn't been returned, yet...)

re: the tongue thingy
yeah. that was pretty good. it's a pity Khal Drogo got wounded, tho'...

re: the kid at the stable who got stabbed
was he in the book? I don't remember... interesting scene, tho':Arya's first kill. I can't wait for her to start saying, 'Valar Morghulis' :D

re: Tyrion & co.
I really love the scenes w/ Tyrion in them. And, yeah, I noticed Tywin moving away the wine. :D
Great scene. I wonder if they'll show Tyrion in armour or something... :D
edit: Ooh. Yay, they will. :D (just saw the preview for the next ep.)

Ukko
June 6th, 2011, 07:22 AM
:( :( :(

http://i.cdn.hbo.com/assets/images/series/game-of-thrones/character/syrio-forel-160.jpg

"The First Sword of Bravos does not run."

:( :( :(

Awesome, awesome episode. I'm going to write up another King's Landing Chronicle entry after my rewatch. Maybe.

Kicking butt with a wooden sword!
:(:(:(Syrio:(:(:(

Arya stabbed that kid.:D:p

MattSilver 3k
June 6th, 2011, 07:23 AM
For the love of everything, why do some people who've read the books keep asking if scenes were in the book or not? I mean, I've browsed the first book's contents table. That's about it. Each chapter is a character's POV. There are no POVs for Cersei or Robert, so why would their scene back in episode five be in the book? How could it be? There are no Littlefinger POV chapters, so why oh why would his scene with the lesbians last week be one? Jeez-us, it's either really bad memory/stupidity or just... I dunno. Not enough die-hard fan-ness about the book series that started it all. Like, I don't get it. Even if I skimmed this first book, I'd know the only POVs we get are Ned, Cat, Tyrion, Jon, Bran, Sansa, Arya and Dany. That's it. They're right there at the top of the chapters.

The Mighty 6 platoon
June 6th, 2011, 07:37 AM
For the love of everything, why do some people who've read the books keep asking if scenes were in the book or not? I mean, I've browsed the first book's contents table. That's about it. Each chapter is a character's POV. There are no POVs for Cersei or Robert, so why would their scene back in episode five be in the book? How could it be? There are no Littlefinger POV chapters, so why oh why would his scene with the lesbians last week be one? Jeez-us, it's either really bad memory/stupidity or just... I dunno. Not enough die-hard fan-ness about the book series that started it all. Like, I don't get it. Even if I skimmed this first book, I'd know the only POVs we get are Ned, Cat, Tyrion, Jon, Bran, Sansa, Arya and Dany. That's it. They're right there at the top of the chapters.

Calm down dear. :P


Well that's just staying true to the book, no argument there. The Syrio scene especially was well done I thought.
Agreed, good casting and the whole scene lived up to the hype.

MattSilver 3k
June 6th, 2011, 07:39 AM
Pfft. I am calm.

The Mighty 6 platoon
June 6th, 2011, 07:49 AM
Pfft. I am calm.

Less tranquil fury then. :D

Or do we have to find a Lhazareen village to burn down to make you feel better? :P

MattSilver 3k
June 6th, 2011, 08:12 AM
Less tranquil fury then. :D

Or do we have to find a Lhazareen village to burn down to make you feel better? :P

Nah, I'd settle for a White Walking Syrio Forel teaming up with Ser Barristan to fight crime amongst the Seven Kingdoms right now. Arya, Tyrion and Bronn too, though Arya can have her show - Pointy Ends With Arya Stark - about her ascent into the Batman of the Seven Kingdoms, while Tyrion and Bronn play their parts in The Hill Tribes, which is a lot like the Jersey Shore, but with less blood and guts and gross monsters.

gotthammer
June 6th, 2011, 08:29 AM
re: asking about book bits
well, I haven't read the book in more than 5 or 6 or 7 years. :P
(and I've read a fair amount of stuff in between, fiction and non-fiction. heck, I don't think I've started reading Warhammer stuff when I read AGoT, hehehe)

so, yeah, I've forgotten stuff. :P
and I'm curious, too. I'd rather re-read stuff, but, as I said, I lent out my books. :)

as for stupidity:
hmm. I hope not. ;)

siles
June 6th, 2011, 09:16 AM
Is Syrio really dead? Say it's not so...

g.o.d
June 6th, 2011, 10:26 AM
what can I say? Amazing as usual...

The Mighty 6 platoon
June 6th, 2011, 11:04 AM
Is Syrio really dead? Say it's not so...

We don't know, both on the show and in the books. There are some fan theories about Syrio, but thus far no one knows...

Ukko
June 6th, 2011, 11:05 AM
We don't know, both on the show and in the books. There are some fan theories about Syrio, but thus far no one knows...

Not today!

magictrick
June 6th, 2011, 12:29 PM
Not today!

Both Varys and Syrio say that same line. I wonder...

The Mighty 6 platoon
June 7th, 2011, 03:40 AM
Having now watched the episode on Sky in HD on the old 50 inch screen, rather than a crappy video player on the net, I had a couple more thoughts. One the fight with the wight had a bit more impact, certainly perhaps wasn't up to the standard of the Walking Dead's zombie attacks, but not bad at all.

The other thing I noticed was how Arya stabbing the stable boy felt awkward, but that was really kind of the point. There's already been discussion in the show about how killing someone, especially for the first time, is a very unpleasant moment, with old King Robert (how we miss him, I noticed now his name is no longer in the credits). With the stable boy Arya just reacts, and it's no glorious first victory in battle, it's not an epic moment for her or the audiance, she's fighting to survive, she's just had to suddenly gut someone and she's completely shocked by this.

Cold Fuzz
June 7th, 2011, 04:36 AM
Having now watched the episode on Sky in HD on the old 50 inch screen, rather than a crappy video player on the net, I had a couple more thoughts. One the fight with the wight had a bit more impact, certainly perhaps wasn't up to the standard of the Walking Dead's zombie attacks, but not bad at all.

The other thing I noticed was how Arya stabbing the stable boy felt awkward, but that was really kind of the point. There's already been discussion in the show about how killing someone, especially for the first time, is a very unpleasant moment, with old King Robert (how we miss him, I noticed now his name is no longer in the credits). With the stable boy Arya just reacts, and it's no glorious first victory in battle, it's not an epic moment for her or the audiance, she's fighting to survive, she's just had to suddenly gut someone and she's completely shocked by this.

Very good point about the stable boy's death. Though Robert's departure leaves quite a void (I did rather like him during the tourney) I do wonder whether his kills on the battlefield are as glorious as he made them out to be. I think the Starks (including Arya) are a bit hardwired to not enjoy killing and view it as a means to an end. I get the feeling Ned was someone who never relished killing, not even an enemy, and that's probably a trait that's been passed on to his children behavior-wise.

The Mighty 6 platoon
June 7th, 2011, 04:53 AM
Very good point about the stable boy's death. Though Robert's departure leaves quite a void (I did rather like him during the tourney) I do wonder whether his kills on the battlefield are as glorious as he made them out to be. I think the Starks (including Arya) are a bit hardwired to not enjoy killing and view it as a means to an end. I get the feeling Ned was someone who never relished killing, not even an enemy, and that's probably a trait that's been passed on to his children behavior-wise.
Well I think he never thought that his kills were glorious. The way he talks about his first kill, the Tarly boy, makes it out to be unglamorous. He talks about how it's not like the bards portray it, but instead gruesome and unpleasant, people ****ting themselves before they die.

It's sort of a running theme how unglamorous things really are. :P

dragongirl
June 7th, 2011, 09:21 AM
I finally got to see it!!

Loved the ep

-Arya and Syrio. Syrio kicking @$$ with a wooden sword how awesome!
-The Ravens flying to call the banners
-Dany taking charge. Drogo's fight
-The Randomness of Hodor popping up naked
-the Lanister camp
and I could just go on!

chrono trigger
June 7th, 2011, 12:49 PM
brilliant episode again:) and for the first time i liked sansa a little bit:eek: because of the way she tried to defend her father. also i have to say cersei really is a great antagonist imo.

TOIVA
June 7th, 2011, 01:13 PM
Excellent episode, no need to repeat all of the great moments, but still: Syrio shows time again, why he's my favourite character.:wraith: I hope he momentarily got rid of that giant (since he showed up in the last scene) and proudly walked away.

Anyway, I've got one question, now that the Starks are in open conflict with the Lannisters, why don't they ask help from the Greyjoys? It felt to me that the Greyjoys were very antagonistic to the Lannisters and the only reason for them not to attack them was the Theon problem. It doesn't make sense any more for Theon to be the "guest-hostage".

Cold Fuzz
June 7th, 2011, 02:24 PM
Well I think he never thought that his kills were glorious. The way he talks about his first kill, the Tarly boy, makes it out to be unglamorous. He talks about how it's not like the bards portray it, but instead gruesome and unpleasant, people ****ting themselves before they die.

It's sort of a running theme how unglamorous things really are. :P

The killing itself was described unglamorous though I honestly thought that Robert was probably exaggerating when he said, "Gods I was strong then." :P


-The Randomness of Hodor popping up naked


I remember in the book that Winterfell was built on top of hot springs by Brandon the Builder who apparently had the help of Giants. I think Hodor decided to take a dip in one of the hot springs and conveniently (or inconveniently depending on your POV :P) forgot to put on his clothes.


Excellent episode, no need to repeat all of the great moments, but still: Syrio shows time again, why he's my favourite character.:wraith: I hope he momentarily got rid of that giant (since he showed up in the last scene) and proudly walked away.

Anyway, I've got one question, now that the Starks are in open conflict with the Lannisters, why don't they ask help from the Greyjoys? It felt to me that the Greyjoys were very antagonistic to the Lannisters and the only reason for them not to attack them was the Theon problem. It doesn't make sense any more for Theon to be the "guest-hostage".

I don't know how closely the Greyjoys have been keeping on eye on the rest of Westeros at this point. They're not exactly friends with the Starks or the Lannisters either, especially since Theon's uncles destroyed Tywin's fleet at Lannisport during their rebellion. I think it's safe to say that they'd have their own agenda in regards to the brewing civil war.

The Mighty 6 platoon
June 7th, 2011, 02:52 PM
Anyway, I've got one question, now that the Starks are in open conflict with the Lannisters, why don't they ask help from the Greyjoys? It felt to me that the Greyjoys were very antagonistic to the Lannisters and the only reason for them not to attack them was the Theon problem. It doesn't make sense any more for Theon to be the "guest-hostage".
Assuming they continue at a book per season, then the Greyjoys and their involvement in the war will be addressed in season 2. I won't spoil what's coming, but two points about their background should be considered. As men of the Iron Islands, that lie off the Western Coast of Westeros, they consider themselves separate, and have a separate culture to the rest of Westeros. This has manifested itself into attempts to split from the 7 Kingdoms. They don't like the Lannisters, but they don't like the Starks much either, seeing as the Starks helped Robert Baratheon put down a rebellion in the Iron Islands a few years before the current story is set. Theon Greyjoy being a Ward of the Starks is a direct result of this. As the last surviving son(the others were killed in the rebellion) of Balon Greyjoy, Lord of the Iron Islands, he is held not only a Ward, but also a hostage, to prevent the Greyjoy's from "misbehaving" again.

*EDIT*
Also for anyone who hasn't seen it yet here's the a link to the latest inside the episode on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaNPV3c8xB8

Skydiver
June 8th, 2011, 03:23 AM
For the love of everything, why do some people who've read the books keep asking if scenes were in the book or not? I mean, I've browsed the first book's contents table. That's about it. Each chapter is a character's POV. There are no POVs for Cersei or Robert, so why would their scene back in episode five be in the book? How could it be? There are no Littlefinger POV chapters, so why oh why would his scene with the lesbians last week be one? Jeez-us, it's either really bad memory/stupidity or just... I dunno. Not enough die-hard fan-ness about the book series that started it all. Like, I don't get it. Even if I skimmed this first book, I'd know the only POVs we get are Ned, Cat, Tyrion, Jon, Bran, Sansa, Arya and Dany. That's it. They're right there at the top of the chapters.

There is no need at all to be so grumpy about it. FCOL, it's a tv show, not the fate of the world. Not to mention it being just plain rude to get in peoples' faces.

If comparisons between the books and shows are such a topic, how about a thread be started, either one general one, or one for each episode, where those that want to can list and compare what did and what didn't make it into the show. It keeps the discussion out of the episode thread, yet allows for the discussion to happen to those that want it.

Instead of getting mad, how about looking for a solution to try and help as many fellow fans as possible.

kitkat3ny
June 8th, 2011, 11:02 AM
This episode was so good I've already rewatced it three times.

Petra
June 9th, 2011, 07:36 AM
Erm, firstly where is everybody? The most epic epsidoe yet needs more love. :(

But on a happy note, damn, that was good, probably one of the best, if not the best episode yet.

This time I won't argue :P I love Sean Bean's performance and I wish Ned had more scenes this week, but all in all...DARN.GOOD.SHOW.

At least TPTB took pity on me and my poor nerves and didn't end on such a cliffhanger like last time! :P

I see there are some complaints about the wight's attack, so let me just tell you that speaking from a newbie's perspective, that scene was scary and creepy enough.

Regarding Ned, I do have a question for those who read the book:

Thanks to surfing Wikipedia I was accidentally spoilered and unfortunately I know that Ned will die (beheaded?). :( My question is, does it happen this season or the next one?

Please just answer the question, I really don't want to be spoilered further.

magictrick
June 9th, 2011, 07:44 AM
Regarding Ned, I do have a question for those who read the book:

Thanks to surfing Wikipedia I was accidentally spoilered and unfortunately I know that Ned will die (beheaded?). :( My question is, does it happen this season or the next one?

Please just answer the question, I really don't want to be spoilered further.

This season.

That's too bad you got spoiled, now you gotta read the books :D

Petra
June 9th, 2011, 07:57 AM
This season.

That's too bad you got spoiled, now you gotta read the books :D

That was quick! Thanks!!! :)

I suspected as much, but still, now I'm bummed. Hoped for a little more of Ned's awesomeness.

As to the books, it's more probable with each new episode, LOL. I don't read fantasy as a rule; LOTR has been the only exception so far. But I enjoy GOT so much that recently I've found myself seriously contemplating giving books a try...

The Mighty 6 platoon
June 9th, 2011, 08:08 AM
That was quick! Thanks!!! :)

I suspected as much, but still, now I'm bummed. Hoped for a little more of Ned's awesomeness.

As to the books, it's more probable with each new episode, LOL. I don't read fantasy as a rule; LOTR has been the only exception so far. But I enjoy GOT so much that recently I've found myself seriously contemplating giving books a try...

They are good. I guess it depends if you want to come to each season fresh or not. One solution would be to read each book the season corresponds to after it has aired. So Read A Game of Thrones after season 1, wait till season 2 airs then read A Clash of Kings etc. It's one book per season, so that way you read the books and hopefuly remain unspoiled. On the other hand you may not wish to wait that long.... :D

Petra
June 9th, 2011, 12:41 PM
It's one book per season, so that way you read the books and hopefuly remain unspoiled. On the other hand you may not wish to wait that long.... :D

Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of. I'm terribly weak-willed when it comes to the books/movies/tv I enjoy. :o Also, I tried that strategy with LOTR. Didn't work. :o

On a different note, if I understand correctly GoT is the title of just the first novel and not the entire saga. But I seriously doubt that HBO will change the series' title to suit the books, so will "GoT" still be the appropriate title for season 2 (and hopefully season 3, 4 etc)?

The Mighty 6 platoon
June 9th, 2011, 02:17 PM
On a different note, if I understand correctly GoT is the title of just the first novel and not the entire saga. But I seriously doubt that HBO will change the series' title to suit the books, so will "GoT" still be the appropriate title for season 2 (and hopefully season 3, 4 etc)?
Yes it will still be appropriate. The "Game of Thrones," ie the struggle for power, is an ever present theme throughout the books. I'm still holding out that they might use the other book titles as subtitles, so you'd have Game of Thrones: A Clash of Kings and Game of Thrones: A Storm of Swords for example, but only cause it would sound cool :D. Overall though Game of Thrones is a perfectly suitable title of the whole series.

magictrick
June 9th, 2011, 06:13 PM
The title of the entire saga is A Song of Ice and Fire. So technically that should have been mentioned in the title somewhere. But since they chose to go with Game of Thrones, then they might keep it in the title of the second series as well. If they just change it to A Clash of Kings it will just confuse a lot of people who are not familiar with the books.

mysticseeker7
June 12th, 2011, 05:32 AM
Episode 8 was fantastic. I love how Dany took charge and wouldn't back down to anyone. Loved the interaction between her and Drogo. There was love and mutual respect. I also loved that he asked her for her side of the story and explained their ways instead of just brushing her aside or taking his men's side. I love them. They get better and better. They are truly an epic love story.

gotthammer
June 12th, 2011, 10:09 AM
If they just change it to A Clash of Kings it will just confuse a lot of people who are not familiar with the books.

Nothing that a whole slew of advertisements on HBO (and spread through various websites) stating that CoK is a sequel to GoT can't fix. :D

I'm fine w/ them keeping the title as GoT, or changing it per season/book.
(GoT: CoK, GoT: SoS, and so on)

I am, kinda, hoping that the intro music changes per season, to reflect changes in theme/mood, perhaps.
I mean, keep it as is, but perhaps 'darker' or more 'grand' (sorry, it's hard to express...I guess I should've listened more in music class).
Something like: if a particular piece was being played by an instrument w/ a higher pitch/range (?) like a violin in this season, maybe have it played by a cello next season. Something like that... :D

maxbo
June 15th, 2011, 04:52 PM
A moment of silence for Septa Mordane and Syrio Forel. Each character displayed impressive courage in what appeared to be her and his last scene.

There was a lot to note in this episode and I'll get around to it later, but I wanted to give an immediate shout out to Septa and Syrio. Septa's scene was what? I minute, maybe less? But in that short amount of time, she owned her scene. First, she quickly sized up the danger that Sansa was in, when she heard the fighting just beyond them, and set out to do her best to protect Sansa by telling her to go to her room, bar the door and be careful who she opened it to. And then after she sent Sansa off, Septa didn't flinch as she went to meet the Lannister guards with their swords covered with fresh House of Stark blood. Way to go, Septa.

And, Syrio was equally as impressive because, like Septa, he also quickly realized that his charge, Arya, was in danger and did his part (with a wooden practice sword, no less) to give her time to get away. Well done, Syrio.

I hope this isn't the last time I'll see these characters, but if it is, then I'm pleased that they went out well.

The Mighty 6 platoon
June 15th, 2011, 05:59 PM
A moment of silence for Septa Mordane and Syrio Forel. Each character displayed impressive courage in what appeared to be her and his last scene.

There was a lot to note in this episode and I'll get around to it later, but I wanted to give an immediate shout out to Septa and Syrio. Septa's scene was what? I minute, maybe less? But in that short amount of time, she owned her scene. First, she quickly sized up the danger that Sansa was in, when she heard the fighting just beyond them, and set out to do her best to protect Sansa by telling her to go to her room, bar the door and be careful who she opened it to. And then after she sent Sansa off, Septa didn't flinch as she went to meet the Lannister guards with their swords covered with fresh House of Stark blood. Way to go, Septa.

And, Syrio was equally as impressive because, like Septa, he also quickly realized that his charge, Arya, was in danger and did his part (with a wooden practice sword, no less) to give her time to get away. Well done, Syrio.

I hope this isn't the last time I'll see these characters, but if it is, then I'm pleased that they went out well.
Septa Mordane is very, very dead, and if they follow the books closely enough, her head on a spike may make a guest appearance in episode 10. Syrio Forel, we don't know. That counts for book readers as well, it's one of the series great mysteries, did he die? There are some fan theroies, but only one man, George RR Martin, knows for sure. :D

maxbo
June 15th, 2011, 06:50 PM
Sadly, I figured that Septa was done because there was no way the Lannister guards were going to let any servants of the House of Stark live and she didn't have Syrio's fighting skills to give her a chance.

Interesting that Syrio's fate has been left up in the air. I understand that George RR Martin's next book is coming out soon and that it's been delayed by several years, so I wonder if he's had time to decide if he wants to share Syrio's fate now.