Couple of books that came out in the last few months with lots of dirt on Crusade....has anyone checked them out?
Book 1
Book 2
These look fantastic, particularly the second one. It's just that they're a wee bit expensive for me. $80 for two books? No thanks
Anyway, has anyone checked these out?
Book 1
Spoiler:
What can you expect to find inside CRUSADE: OTHER VOICES VOLUME 1?
A brand new CRUSADE adventure in a never-before-seen--or even known about--SECOND SEASON script (What second season? That's our point!). This script was discovered in 2010, 11 years after it was written.
Oh, did we mentioned that said script was written by Peter Woodward--as in the fabulous British actor who portrayed Galen the techno-mage? As many of you know, Peter is a successful screenwriter and this CRUSADE story is a quirky adventure so good that JMS slated it for the second season.
The script is called “Little Bugs Have Lesser Bugs" which reveals[list][*]What the EXCALIBUR crew watched on the vid (23rd century TV). (It’s not what you’d expect!)[list][*]Find out if "that day on Mars with Louise meant anything to Brad"...and, more importantly, who the heck ARE Louise and Brad?[list][*]The dramatic way Galen gets the attention of the EXCALIBUR crew, causing a panic in the process.[list][*]The one thing Galen can do in handcuffs to get a reaction from EXCALIBUR security. (Hint: Kids love this.)[list][*]The introduction of a new planet whose surface makes a disconcerting crunching sound when walked on; you'll cringe when you find out why.[list][*]What Dureena, and other natives of Zander Prime, have twice the normal number of.
...
The other "voice" in this volume is that of Fiona Avery--BABYLON 5's reference editor--who wrote:
"Patterns of the Soul" (where Gideon confronted Earth colonists who might have been infected with the plague while escaping the planet) and "The Well of Forever" (in which Galen hijacked the EXCALIBUR to find a mythical site hidden in hyperspace). We've included not one, but two drafts of each of these episodes to showcase the changes made between a writer’s first draft and the final production script. This way, no aspect of CRUSADE's history will be unaccounted for. Also included is a complete analysis of each of these episodes, each one exceeding 40 pages. In these scripts, you will discover --
A brand new CRUSADE adventure in a never-before-seen--or even known about--SECOND SEASON script (What second season? That's our point!). This script was discovered in 2010, 11 years after it was written.
Oh, did we mentioned that said script was written by Peter Woodward--as in the fabulous British actor who portrayed Galen the techno-mage? As many of you know, Peter is a successful screenwriter and this CRUSADE story is a quirky adventure so good that JMS slated it for the second season.
The script is called “Little Bugs Have Lesser Bugs" which reveals[list][*]What the EXCALIBUR crew watched on the vid (23rd century TV). (It’s not what you’d expect!)[list][*]Find out if "that day on Mars with Louise meant anything to Brad"...and, more importantly, who the heck ARE Louise and Brad?[list][*]The dramatic way Galen gets the attention of the EXCALIBUR crew, causing a panic in the process.[list][*]The one thing Galen can do in handcuffs to get a reaction from EXCALIBUR security. (Hint: Kids love this.)[list][*]The introduction of a new planet whose surface makes a disconcerting crunching sound when walked on; you'll cringe when you find out why.[list][*]What Dureena, and other natives of Zander Prime, have twice the normal number of.
- Why Galen was willing to swallow a large, living bug
...
The other "voice" in this volume is that of Fiona Avery--BABYLON 5's reference editor--who wrote:
"Patterns of the Soul" (where Gideon confronted Earth colonists who might have been infected with the plague while escaping the planet) and "The Well of Forever" (in which Galen hijacked the EXCALIBUR to find a mythical site hidden in hyperspace). We've included not one, but two drafts of each of these episodes to showcase the changes made between a writer’s first draft and the final production script. This way, no aspect of CRUSADE's history will be unaccounted for. Also included is a complete analysis of each of these episodes, each one exceeding 40 pages. In these scripts, you will discover --
- What real-world, every day inconvenience inspired “Patterns of the Soul.†(You'll definitely relate.)
- How TNT wanted Dr. Chambers and Dureena to become "two tough women."
- The obsession Captain Gideon indulged in the privacy of his quarters.
- What key scene was missing from the earliest version of “Patterns of the Soul.â€
- Find out what Dureena did with the Old One after he died.
- What "natural substances" were prized by Dureena’s people.
- What the Prozeta Corporation was originally named.
- Which BABYLON 5 character Captain Gideon thought was behind the EXCALIBUR’s diversion to Theta 49.
- Cut from the script: the scene where Dureena’s people watched her depart Theta 49, and how they reacted.
- The big switch: which EXCALIBUR crew member originally betrayed another in the first draft of “Patterns.â€
- How a dream suggested “The Well of Forever.â€
- Which new set TNT wanted to see in “The Well of Forever†and who they wanted to inhabit it.
- Who's husband was originally scheduled to direct “Well.†(Hint: think Babylon 5.)
- Which memorable subplot WASN’T in the first draft of “Well.â€
- Ultimate trivia: the creepy diet of the Morcetti.
- Trimmed for time: Galen’s explanation of how the rock indicated the location of the Well of Forever.
- The book Dureena was reading prior to the search for the Well...and what wisdom she took from it.
- What experience was described as "like being stripped naked in front of a room full of strangers."
- What happens immediately after you escape an amorous alien jellyfish (a moment not included in the episode).
- Lost in revision: the action Max Eilerson took after the Excalibur was molested by the Fen.
- Dureena’s philosophy on the aspect of our own deaths we CAN control.
- Galen’s never-uttered-onscreen "power word." (It's not abracadabra.)
Book 2
Spoiler:
This release completes the 2-volume CRUSADE: OTHER VOICES series.
If this book weren't already titled CRUSADE: OTHER VOICES, we could have named it "THE LOST TALES" because this volume includes THREE never-before-published CRUSADE scripts:
1) “Value Judgments,†is the infamous unfilmed CRUSADE script featuring the return of BABYLON 5’s Alfred Bester.
2) “Tried and True,†features a one-on-one confrontation between Dureena and her Thieves’ Guild mentor, Mafeek of Tripani 7 (if the name sounds familiar, it’s because he was mentioned in BABYLON 5: A CALL TO ARMS).
3) “War Story,†is the first episode of an unfinished three-part story that would have seen Dureena abducted by a mysterious alien ship after a huge battle with the Drakh.
There’s also “Ruling From the Tomb,†in which Captain Gideon and the EXCALIBUR crew seek to capture a murderer bent on derailing a conference seeking a cure for the Drakh plague. For this episode, we’ve also included writer Peter David’s original outlines, one featuring the return of a fan-favorite BABYLON 5 character who DID NOT appear in the finished episode.
If you’ve ever longed for more than the thirteen produced episodes of CRUSADE, this material will take you on a guided tour of the latter half of season one, showing you what might have been. Unrealized storylines including Lieutenant Matheson face-to-face with Alfred Bester, Dureena's life in the Thieves’ Guild and Earthforce Marines in an all-out battle with the Drakh.
Now that you've got the overview, let's get to the details:
In Peter David’s introduction, you’ll discover:
Richard Mueller’s in-depth interview reveals:
But that’s not all—in addition to the four scripts, Peter David’s introduction and the Richard Mueller interview, you’ll get:
JMS’s handwritten notes for the episode that eventually became “Ruling From the Tomb,†which featured “MIKE,†A BRAND NEW CRUSADE CHARACTER who never made it to the screen.
The premise JMS wrote for Peter David to work from in crafting “Ruling From the Tomb.†In it, you’ll learn how the cure to the Drakh plague would have been distributed once it was discovered, and why Dr. Chambers might have had a problem with the plan.
The biography of IPX archaeologist Maximilian Eilerson written by actor David Allen Brooks, as well as a trio of poems (one R-rated) that he wrote from Max’s point of view.
A May 2011 interview with Dureena Nafeel actress Carrie Dobro, where she describes her feelings about the two new Dureena-centric scripts featured in this volume that she had never seen before. Find out how she felt when she revisited the character after a dozen years.
An interview with Warner Bros. executive Gregg Maday, who served as the studio’s liaison for both BABYLON 5 and CRUSADE, where he offers his perspective on what went wrong with CRUSADE and TNT mere days before the series finished its original run in 1999. (Yes, this is THAT Gregg Maday, seen lurking in the making-of documentaries on the BABYLON 5: LOST TALES DVD.)
Three unused story ideas writer Richard Mueller pitched to JMS before landing the assignment to write “War Story.†Discover the secret of the Durkonans—a species that never gets sick—in “A Fire in the Blood.†Join Captain Gideon at a card game with potentially life-saving stakes in “House Odds.†Finally, “Mixed Blessings†finds the EXCALBUR crew stranded in an asteroid belt where Galen makes a startling discovery. These stories were never meant to be, but they’re here for you to see.
A detailed synopsis of “The Walls of Hellâ€â€” an episode to be written by Larry DiTillio, the second part of a three-episode arc begun by Mueller in “War Story†and set to be concluded by JMS in an unwritten episode. Find out what happens when the Apocalypse Box possesses Lieutenant Matheson!
...
From the character files, we have a brief document written to help Carrie Dobro understand the background of Dureena’s nearly extinct species. How did they live? What did they use for weapons? Who or what did they worship? It’s all in this anthropological account that likens the inhabitants of Zander Prime to several ancient cultures on Earth.
In this volume we've also included THE DEFINITIVE GUIDE TO THE SIX DIFFERENT WAYS TO WATCH CRUSADE
1) The original order JMS intended to use before TNT started giving notes. See how JMS intended the series to run.
2) JMS's revised watching order created to deal with the changes caused by TNT’s notes. Think of this as the Great Maker’s Plan B.
3) The sequence TNT used on CRUSADE’s first airing because they had not produced episode fourteen. See the series as it was screened for the very first time.
4) The Sci Fi Channel ordering. For those fans who want to understand why their friends who first saw CRUSADE on Sci Fi got so confused, this sequencing will explain how the eccentric 2001 airing order came to be.
5) The EXCALIBUR Calendar's Chronological order (versus when they were written, filmed or aired), which makes sense of all the onscreen dates that appear in the series.
and for the first time ever...
6) The Ultimate Viewing Order, 2011. This sequence integrates the material in "Other Voices" Volumes 1 and 2 with EVERY PIECE of the CRUSADE storyline, from the finished episodes to unproduced scripts, outlines and notes. Following this combination of reading and viewing is the best equivalent to a complete first-season CRUSADE experience.
If this book weren't already titled CRUSADE: OTHER VOICES, we could have named it "THE LOST TALES" because this volume includes THREE never-before-published CRUSADE scripts:
1) “Value Judgments,†is the infamous unfilmed CRUSADE script featuring the return of BABYLON 5’s Alfred Bester.
2) “Tried and True,†features a one-on-one confrontation between Dureena and her Thieves’ Guild mentor, Mafeek of Tripani 7 (if the name sounds familiar, it’s because he was mentioned in BABYLON 5: A CALL TO ARMS).
3) “War Story,†is the first episode of an unfinished three-part story that would have seen Dureena abducted by a mysterious alien ship after a huge battle with the Drakh.
There’s also “Ruling From the Tomb,†in which Captain Gideon and the EXCALIBUR crew seek to capture a murderer bent on derailing a conference seeking a cure for the Drakh plague. For this episode, we’ve also included writer Peter David’s original outlines, one featuring the return of a fan-favorite BABYLON 5 character who DID NOT appear in the finished episode.
If you’ve ever longed for more than the thirteen produced episodes of CRUSADE, this material will take you on a guided tour of the latter half of season one, showing you what might have been. Unrealized storylines including Lieutenant Matheson face-to-face with Alfred Bester, Dureena's life in the Thieves’ Guild and Earthforce Marines in an all-out battle with the Drakh.
Now that you've got the overview, let's get to the details:
In Peter David’s introduction, you’ll discover:
- Why the Mars police lieutenant was named “Carr.â€
- The reason he added Max Eilerson to the story when the character was not present in JMS’s premise for the episode.
- How the Joan of Arc element found its way into the story.
- How a misremembered name from a Broadway musical led to the character called LeBecque.
- Which beloved BABYLON 5 character shared Max Eilerson’s sense of humor.
- Why Peter David was disappointed with the portrayal of Joan of Arc in the finished episode.
- How budgetary restrictions threw a monkeywrench in the wheels...er...hover mechanism of a skimmer chase across the Martian surface.
- Why the bomb’s countdown clock stopped at 018 (instead of James Bond’s preferred 007 or the even more cliched 001), and how that tied into the theme of the episode.
- The story’s original ending, which David changed when he remembered he was "writing CRUSADE, not TWILIGHT ZONE.â€
Richard Mueller’s in-depth interview reveals:
- How a writer who’d had no involvement with BABYLON 5 came to write an episode of CRUSADE.
- What parameters JMS established for the writing of the critical episode in which Dureena was to have been kidnapped.
- What historical naval battle informed his CRUSADE story and why.
- Which character he had to rein in lest they become the star of his episode.
- Why his script for “War Story†exists, even though he was never given the official go-ahead to write it.
But that’s not all—in addition to the four scripts, Peter David’s introduction and the Richard Mueller interview, you’ll get:
JMS’s handwritten notes for the episode that eventually became “Ruling From the Tomb,†which featured “MIKE,†A BRAND NEW CRUSADE CHARACTER who never made it to the screen.
The premise JMS wrote for Peter David to work from in crafting “Ruling From the Tomb.†In it, you’ll learn how the cure to the Drakh plague would have been distributed once it was discovered, and why Dr. Chambers might have had a problem with the plan.
The biography of IPX archaeologist Maximilian Eilerson written by actor David Allen Brooks, as well as a trio of poems (one R-rated) that he wrote from Max’s point of view.
A May 2011 interview with Dureena Nafeel actress Carrie Dobro, where she describes her feelings about the two new Dureena-centric scripts featured in this volume that she had never seen before. Find out how she felt when she revisited the character after a dozen years.
An interview with Warner Bros. executive Gregg Maday, who served as the studio’s liaison for both BABYLON 5 and CRUSADE, where he offers his perspective on what went wrong with CRUSADE and TNT mere days before the series finished its original run in 1999. (Yes, this is THAT Gregg Maday, seen lurking in the making-of documentaries on the BABYLON 5: LOST TALES DVD.)
Three unused story ideas writer Richard Mueller pitched to JMS before landing the assignment to write “War Story.†Discover the secret of the Durkonans—a species that never gets sick—in “A Fire in the Blood.†Join Captain Gideon at a card game with potentially life-saving stakes in “House Odds.†Finally, “Mixed Blessings†finds the EXCALBUR crew stranded in an asteroid belt where Galen makes a startling discovery. These stories were never meant to be, but they’re here for you to see.
A detailed synopsis of “The Walls of Hellâ€â€” an episode to be written by Larry DiTillio, the second part of a three-episode arc begun by Mueller in “War Story†and set to be concluded by JMS in an unwritten episode. Find out what happens when the Apocalypse Box possesses Lieutenant Matheson!
...
From the character files, we have a brief document written to help Carrie Dobro understand the background of Dureena’s nearly extinct species. How did they live? What did they use for weapons? Who or what did they worship? It’s all in this anthropological account that likens the inhabitants of Zander Prime to several ancient cultures on Earth.
In this volume we've also included THE DEFINITIVE GUIDE TO THE SIX DIFFERENT WAYS TO WATCH CRUSADE
1) The original order JMS intended to use before TNT started giving notes. See how JMS intended the series to run.
2) JMS's revised watching order created to deal with the changes caused by TNT’s notes. Think of this as the Great Maker’s Plan B.
3) The sequence TNT used on CRUSADE’s first airing because they had not produced episode fourteen. See the series as it was screened for the very first time.
4) The Sci Fi Channel ordering. For those fans who want to understand why their friends who first saw CRUSADE on Sci Fi got so confused, this sequencing will explain how the eccentric 2001 airing order came to be.
5) The EXCALIBUR Calendar's Chronological order (versus when they were written, filmed or aired), which makes sense of all the onscreen dates that appear in the series.
and for the first time ever...
6) The Ultimate Viewing Order, 2011. This sequence integrates the material in "Other Voices" Volumes 1 and 2 with EVERY PIECE of the CRUSADE storyline, from the finished episodes to unproduced scripts, outlines and notes. Following this combination of reading and viewing is the best equivalent to a complete first-season CRUSADE experience.
These look fantastic, particularly the second one. It's just that they're a wee bit expensive for me. $80 for two books? No thanks
Anyway, has anyone checked these out?
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