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Billz
May 10th, 2011, 04:26 AM
Was I the only one who thought that Eli should leave a Kino running for those 2 weeks, documenting his efforts to fix the stasis pod, and if unsuccesful, have him leaving a video goodbye to everyone that he helped put into stasis before ultimately taking his own life?

Commander Zelix
May 10th, 2011, 04:34 AM
Was I the only one who thought that Eli should leave a Kino running for those 2 weeks, documenting his efforts to fix the stasis pod, and if unsuccesful, have him leaving a video goodbye to everyone that he helped put into stasis before ultimately taking his own life?
If his attempts at repairing the pod is unsuccessful (and nothing else happens). I see him sitting in the chair to join Ginn in the Destiny's memory core

Billz
May 10th, 2011, 04:36 AM
If his attempts at repairing the pod is unsuccessful (and nothing else happens). I see him sitting in the chair to join Ginn in the Destiny's memory core

That would eat up needed reserves, causing the FTL jump to fall short, and waking everyone up in a 1,000 years, if not ever.
I don't think Eli would do that.

MattSilver 3k
May 10th, 2011, 04:36 AM
I smell fanfiction! Come on community! I want angst dammit.

Commander Zelix
May 10th, 2011, 04:38 AM
That would eat up needed reserves, causing the FTL jump to fall short, and waking everyone up in a 1,000 years, if not ever.
I don't think Eli would do that.
I think it's like some lightbulbs, or using the computer or open doors on the ship, it takes just a small amount of energy not enough to jeopardize the mission in any way. :)

MattSilver 3k
May 10th, 2011, 04:44 AM
I think it's like some lightbulbs, or using the computer or open doors on the ship, it takes just a small amount of energy not enough to jeopardize the mission in any way. :)

I'd like to think that too.

I think it would've made a very weirdly awesome first episode if it was all Eli, going slowly crazy while alone and ultimately choosing the upload with Ginn option, with the other cast members appearing only in new Kino footage he was watching or at the end when they wake up and find out Eli's now part of the ship, and just maybe, he knows something about the signal now. DUN DUN DUN.

Choo1701
May 10th, 2011, 06:02 AM
I'd like to think that too.

I think it would've made a very weirdly awesome first episode if it was all Eli, going slowly crazy while alone and ultimately choosing the upload with Ginn option, ...

Man how BADLY could he screw up Rush being part of the computer?

*console goes on*
*console goes off*
*console goes on*
*console goes off*
(rinse, repeat, enjoy until revenge for quarantining gf has been satifi- no wait, gonna run the cold water while he's in the shower!!)

....

....

*bitter sigh* :(

themeatcleaver
May 10th, 2011, 06:45 AM
i just loved that little smile gave right before the credits rolled. that was awesome

Nth Chevron
May 10th, 2011, 07:00 AM
I am just wondering, if Eli doesnt fix the pod, will the Faithliens intervene again?

They were rumored to having more info uncovered about them in the 2rd season.

N.C

carmencatalina
May 10th, 2011, 07:20 AM
I smell fanfiction! Come on community! I want angst dammit.

I'm sure it is in its way!

Personally, in my canon, Eli fixes the pod, and they all survive to travel the stars another day . . .

Commander Zelix
May 10th, 2011, 07:36 AM
i just loved that little smile gave right before the credits rolled. that was awesome
I know 100% of the people will have another meaning for it. ;) But I think when Eli smile he's telling to himself while smiling: "Great, I just found out how to repair the pod to keep me alive". Then changes his facial expression to his 'wondering face' wondering about what he will do for the rest of the 2 weeks with the Destiny all by himself since the repair only takes one day.

:) ;)

Shylodog
May 10th, 2011, 07:54 AM
I could envision Eli fixing the pod at the last minute, in his rushed fashion. Gets it, goes to sleep.

Unfortunately, one little insignificant number is off and the crew wakes up 20 years later.

And the crew wake up to find Eli coming out of stasis 20 years older, and he just gives one of his half-smiles and a shrug.

kcatlantis
May 10th, 2011, 07:56 AM
I smell fanfiction! Come on community! I want angst dammit.

On it, working on getting a website and everything. Just don't want to do it by myself. I'm thinking a Stargate Horizon kind of feel.

Rylor
May 10th, 2011, 08:03 AM
On it, working on getting a website and everything. Just don't want to do it by myself. I'm thinking a Stargate Horizon kind of feel.

I'm in. If Syfy won't give us a third season, we will simply have to do it ourselves ;)

knowles2
May 10th, 2011, 08:29 AM
I am willing to offer any help I can to a SGU fan made third season. The first episode going to be the trickiest to write through. I like the idea of it being a single character episode.

Pharaoh Atem
May 10th, 2011, 08:31 AM
He walked around naked dancing :p. He proably fixed it quicjly

Starsaber
May 10th, 2011, 08:59 AM
I know 100% of the people will have another meaning for it. ;) But I think when Eli smile he's telling to himself while smiling: "Great, I just found out how to repair the pod to keep me alive". Then changes his facial expression to his 'wondering face' wondering about what he will do for the rest of the 2 weeks with the Destiny all by himself since the repair only takes one day.

:) ;)

I think he'd fix it and get in right away to give them the best chance of making it all the way to the next galaxy rather than drifting in.

ussrelativity
May 10th, 2011, 09:11 AM
He walked around naked dancing :p. He probably fixed it quickly.

That reminds me of an episode of Enterprise, where Phlox had to tend to the crew for several weeks. At one point he walked into Sickbay naked, with only plants in front of him.

prion
May 10th, 2011, 09:18 AM
I'm in. If Syfy won't give us a third season, we will simply have to do it ourselves ;)

This is what SG1 fans did, and SGA did as well. You can't rely on SyFy (and more importantly, MGM) to give us ANYMORE Stargate, period, so, you can just leap off from where they left you. Although I was not a big fan of SGU (sorry, just too dark (literally) and dreary), I did watch it and felt it improved toward the end. The last scene with Eli was perhaps one of the best of the entire series, because there was definitely hope there.

As far as series enders go, this one was upbeat, despite 99% of the folk being in the freezer.

morbosfist
May 10th, 2011, 09:19 AM
That reminds me of an episode of Enterprise, where Phlox had to tend to the crew for several weeks. At one point he walked into Sickbay naked, with only plants in front of him.Modesty goes out the window when there's no one around to care.

knowles2
May 10th, 2011, 10:51 AM
Why does he has to fixed it, would it be great to see him sacrifice himself for the crew. It seem fixing it would be to easy of a way out, defferently fixing it quickly is out of the door for me.
Perhaps finding a other way for the him to survive except for the status pod. Not sure how through. 2 weeks worth of supplies for a three years journey does not give us much space for maneuver.

Spidey3121
May 10th, 2011, 10:57 AM
I've said it in other threads that in my mind he fixes it. I'm ending it on a positive note that all will awake in 3 years time to continue exploring the Universe :-)

ArchaeoNerd
May 10th, 2011, 11:05 AM
I could envision Eli fixing the pod at the last minute, in his rushed fashion. Gets it, goes to sleep.

Unfortunately, one little insignificant number is off and the crew wakes up 20 years later.

And the crew wake up to find Eli coming out of stasis 20 years older, and he just gives one of his half-smiles and a shrug.

Interesting thing about going into stasis on Stargate. People age, but at an extremely slow rate compared to the number of years that go by. i.e. Weir ages about 70 years in stasis over 10,000 years. Anyway, perhaps Eli would not look all that much older after 20 years in stasis.

ArchaeoNerd

spaceship
May 10th, 2011, 11:49 AM
If his attempts at repairing the pod is unsuccessful (and nothing else happens). I see him sitting in the chair to join Ginn in the Destiny's memory core

Ah very clever. Yes this would work. Well it should because computer memory doesn't need much power. Its just that the "you are here" t-shirt wouldn't look the same on a hologram!

spaceship
May 10th, 2011, 11:50 AM
i just loved that little smile gave right before the credits rolled. that was awesome

Yes. He seemed happy come what may.

Shylodog
May 10th, 2011, 04:28 PM
Interesting thing about going into stasis on Stargate. People age, but at an extremely slow rate compared to the number of years that go by. i.e. Weir ages about 70 years in stasis over 10,000 years. Anyway, perhaps Eli would not look all that much older after 20 years in stasis.

ArchaeoNerd

I seem to have put my spacing in the wrong place in my previous post. I meant in Eli's rush to fix the pod, me makes a one digit error and he ages while in stasis. Was just a funny thought is all.

HaMm3r
May 10th, 2011, 06:55 PM
Quoting myself from another thread...

Let's not forget that Eli still had one brand new, fully operational shuttle. Combine that with three working spacesuits and suddenly Eli could potentially survive a lot longer than two weeks, without draining Destiny's power reserves at all.

Since the shuttle has its own independent power and life support, Eli could live in it and move all of his food supplies there. Then, by using the spacesuits he could continue to work on the damaged stasis pod long after Destiny itself becomes uninhabitable.

Could he make it three years if he couldn't fix the pod? Hard to say with only the information we were given, but this scenario certain increases his odds.

morbosfist
May 10th, 2011, 07:16 PM
A month's worth of food for an entire crew wouldn't last one person three years. It'd spoil. In fact, that was part of the point of Young's dinner. It's going to waste, might as well chow down. The suits might give Eli some extra time, but not very much.

HaMm3r
May 10th, 2011, 07:24 PM
A month's worth of food for an entire crew wouldn't last one person three years. It'd spoil. In fact, that was part of the point of Young's dinner. It's going to waste, might as well chow down. The suits might give Eli some extra time, but not very much.

Think about it...a month worth of food for 40 people would be 40 months of food for one. That's well over three years. As for the spoiling issue, it wouldn't spoil in the frozen vacuum of space, would it? (I'm only considering power-free solutions here, otherwise I'd mention waking Rush up to help with the repairs and putting the food into the stasis pod instead)

tomstone
May 10th, 2011, 07:37 PM
I imagine kind of a "Unending" Scenario. Eli tries to fix it and once he sees that he wont make it, he will try to upload himself only to find himself with insufficient power resources.

morbosfist
May 10th, 2011, 07:41 PM
Think about it...a month worth of food for 40 people would be 40 months of food for one. That's well over three years. As for the spoiling issue, it wouldn't spoil in the frozen vacuum of space, would it? (I'm only considering power-free solutions here, otherwise I'd mention waking Rush up to help with the repairs and putting the food into the stasis pod instead)A vast amount of the available food would be perishable. It wouldn't be in the vacuum of space, because they didn't totally vent the ship, just shut off life support. Can't be refrigerated, because power is shut off everywhere. Therefore, the only food that would last is non-perishable items, and they have decidedly little of those.

Shylodog
May 10th, 2011, 08:05 PM
Besides, storing it in space would exposit to cosmic radiation. On the flip side, maybe he could become the human torch or something - having eaten the irradiated food and all. :p

Gollumpus
May 10th, 2011, 08:09 PM
i just loved that little smile gave right before the credits rolled. that was awesome

I felt it was a multiple meaning type of ending. On the one hand, it was a, "Man, this is so COOL!! I'm out here on a spaceship. Who'd a thunk it." On the other hand, it could also be a, "Hey, I just figured out how to do this..."

So, what will he do? One possible solution could involve the remaining stasis pod, an EVA suit and Brody's still. I could say more, but I don't want to spoil it for anyone for when the show does come back in a while.


regards,
G.

qingdom
May 10th, 2011, 08:14 PM
Eli can't go around recharging his iPod rewatching south park or listening to mp3's every other day ... so I'm thinking to clear boredom, he can unleash Gin and Amanda.

Worst Case scenario, if he's about to die, upload his consciousness to Destiny, fast forward 3 years, tada, mathboy + Destiny = awesomer calculations and simulations.

Life support turns off, live off pure data processing and storage of Destiny's systems, figure out enhancements and dive through the knowledge base within.


And in Aurora, there was a way to communicate as a collective. Surely Destiny isn't that advanced with their version of stasis pods, but if there's a link-up available, he's the one who could come up with it since he's one curious cat.

The possibilities from this are endless!

Phenom
May 10th, 2011, 08:19 PM
Was I the only one who thought that Eli should leave a Kino running for those 2 weeks, documenting his efforts to fix the stasis pod, and if unsuccesful, have him leaving a video goodbye to everyone that he helped put into stasis before ultimately taking his own life?

Would you film yourself dying? I wouldn't.

qingdom
May 10th, 2011, 08:19 PM
A vast amount of the available food would be perishable. It wouldn't be in the vacuum of space, because they didn't totally vent the ship, just shut off life support. Can't be refrigerated, because power is shut off everywhere. Therefore, the only food that would last is non-perishable items, and they have decidedly little of those.

Isn't space without atmosphere already cold? it's a natural refrigerator.... and since life support to those areas are turned off, no oxygen, no spoils. Put on EVA suit before selecting what to prep for the day/week for food.

Question remains, how does EVA suit replenish oxygen supply. And with hydroponics destroyed, how will Eli get water?

But lets' say it does work out, I'm pretty sure Eli won't be fat anymore by the time everyone wakes up. Best case scenario, he'd be skinnier in three years... Worst case scenario, he'd be extremely skinny as a pile of decomposed bones sitting somewhere to welcome the crew out of stasis.

garhkal
May 10th, 2011, 08:24 PM
I am just wondering, if Eli doesnt fix the pod, will the Faithliens intervene again?

They were rumored to having more info uncovered about them in the 2rd season.

N.C

Didn't we leave that galaxy??


A month's worth of food for an entire crew wouldn't last one person three years. It'd spoil. In fact, that was part of the point of Young's dinner. It's going to waste, might as well chow down. The suits might give Eli some extra time, but not very much.

True. And power would be the bigger issue..


Would you film yourself dying? I wouldn't.

In his situation.. Yes i would.

Shylodog
May 10th, 2011, 08:29 PM
Worst case scenario, he'd be extremely skinny as a pile of decomposed bones sitting somewhere to welcome the crew out of stasis.

I can see it now:

Chloe steps out of her pod to see a skeleton sitting across from it and screams. Other pods open up and everyone else comes out and gather around all sad that Eli is dead.

Rush, always on the outer ring of a group gathering then looks to his left to see a grinning Eli coming around a corner. "where'd you come from?" Rush asks.

"oh. I found a working pod down near the engineering section, two floors above the main gun." Eli replies.

"where did you find the skeleton?" asks Rush.

"in the pod. Probably an engineer that decided to take a nap and was forgotten when Destiny launched." says Eli.

"humph," replies Rush. "Good one."

EDIT: oh, I forgot...

"By the way," Eli whispers to Rush, "After I found the pod on the third day, I found a room full of boxes."

"There are a lot of rooms with boxes, Mr. Wallace." Rush replies.

"Yeah, but do all the boxes contain these huge multiple-colored crystal formations that apparently give off energy?" Eli retorts.

"what??? You found ZPMs?" Rush asks incredulously.

" yeah. Hooked em up too," Eli says with a smirk.

"why didn't you wake us up???" Rush demands.

"Wilson told me not to." explains Eli, showing Rush a Kino with a bloody handprint on it.

"how long after we went into stasis did you enter your pod?" asks Rush.

"four days," states Eli and then walks away.

morbosfist
May 10th, 2011, 08:44 PM
Isn't space without atmosphere already cold? it's a natural refrigerator.... and since life support to those areas are turned off, no oxygen, no spoils. Put on EVA suit before selecting what to prep for the day/week for food.No. One, space is not cold. For there to be cold, there needs to be something to be cold. The biggest problem in space is dealing with waste heat, which has nowhere to go. Two, there's still oxygen. Again, they aren't venting the ship, just shutting off life support. The oxygen doesn't go anywhere. Three, food will spoil without oxygen, so long as there's atmosphere of some kind, which there would be.


Question remains, how does EVA suit replenish oxygen supply. And with hydroponics destroyed, how will Eli get water?It doesn't. The tank is filled before going out. Hydroponics doesn't generate water. They get that from planets, and Eli will have plenty.

Blistna
May 10th, 2011, 09:17 PM
Think about it...a month worth of food for 40 people would be 40 months of food for one. That's well over three years. As for the spoiling issue, it wouldn't spoil in the frozen vacuum of space, would it? (I'm only considering power-free solutions here, otherwise I'd mention waking Rush up to help with the repairs and putting the food into the stasis pod instead)

The food would not last. Even frozen goods wouldn't last. And the life support would take too much power. If he couldn't do it, he'd have to kill himself.

And I don't see that happening. He'll fix it.

RafK2
May 11th, 2011, 01:31 AM
I cant see that the writers would intend Eli to just repair the pods, how rubbish of a S03E01 would that be, him just underneath it with a spanner for 40 minutes. But neither would I have killed him off (hes too damn likable!).

There way id have done it, would be something like the 'mystery of the missing Eli' where the crew wake up, no body, no repaired status pod, and no evidence that hes ejected himself into space etc.

Or

He comes out with some crazy outrageous way of preserving himself but to save him they have to follow some kind of step by step scavenger hunt which he guides them through with Kino recordings that may be the plot arc for a couple of episodes

Trig
May 11th, 2011, 02:10 AM
Modesty goes out the window when there's no one around to care.

As long as he doesnt have a Kino on recording everything :lol:

Trig
May 11th, 2011, 02:16 AM
I've not seen the last episode yet, but could Eli just not use the stones, get someone who has more experience with pods to stone in, fix it and then enter the pod?

At least that way with Earth/Destiny interaction the guys on Earth would know what was happening on Destiny..
This would then tie in nicely with my other idea..


I've not seen the last episode yet but I'm guessing it ends with everyone in stasis pods, which is good from the POV that it could be continued as well as give cast an "out" if they have other commitments when it comes round to renewal.

It could also help with an SG1/SGA film, Earth trys to contact Destiny, cant, so plan some sort of rescue mission, off to find an Icarus planet (Langara perhaps so we get an end to the Langara/Lucian Alliance episode) so theres plenty of room for the SG and SGA teams to go off hunting, possibly with the help of Atlantis itself so it can get damaged enough to break/permanently destroy the wormhole drive, if a they can open a gate then we could get a few more crew onboard to cover who leaves/dies in stasis..

Trig
May 11th, 2011, 06:28 AM
Oh, and just as a thought, maybe he cant fix the pod so goes off to join the "decendants"?

Has shuttle, grabs kino's, disabled drone, gates to planet, uses gate network to goto inhabited planet...

Choo1701
May 11th, 2011, 02:06 PM
Back up guess:

-Eli realises he can't finish the repairs in time ssooo

-he loads himself into computer
-Creates a fantasy/sci fi world/land.
-Has epic WoW style adventures with Ginn for three years! (She said 'no' to Doctor Who :p)
-INTERNET SPIN OFF SERIES!!!! *two thumbs up*

:lol:

Shylodog
May 11th, 2011, 09:10 PM
Back up guess:

-Eli realises he can't finish the repairs in time ssooo

-he loads himself into computer
-Creates a fantasy/sci fi world/land.
-Has epic WoW style adventures with Ginn for three years! (She said 'no' to Doctor Who :p)
-INTERNET SPIN OFF SERIES!!!! *two thumbs up*

:lol:

Eli being a Doctor Who fan would be something of a leap of faith. Fans of The Doctor are something of a rare breed here in the U.S. seeing as there's only one channel in the 500 or so available that actually air it and it's not even in HD in most places. If it hadn't been for the fact that I grew up in Michigan (a stone's throw away from Canada) I would have no clue who Tom Baker was, let alone who Doctor Who is. And it's pure luck and lack of certain types of Children's programming that I ever stumbled upon the reruns of The Tomorrow People on Nickelodeon when I was a kid.

Choo1701
May 11th, 2011, 10:39 PM
Eli being a Doctor Who fan would be something of a leap of faith. Fans of The Doctor are something of a rare breed here in the U.S. seeing as there's only one channel in the 500 or so available that actually air it and it's not even in HD in most places. If it hadn't been for the fact that I grew up in Michigan (a stone's throw away from Canada) I would have no clue who Tom Baker was, let alone who Doctor Who is. And it's pure luck and lack of certain types of Children's programming that I ever stumbled upon the reruns of The Tomorrow People on Nickelodeon when I was a kid.

* sigh* ... stop ruining my fun! ;)

Replicator Todd
May 11th, 2011, 11:00 PM
I believe Eli survives somehow in some way.

Trig
May 12th, 2011, 01:25 AM
Indeed, I dont think its chair related tho as he wouldnt want to effect the ships power consumption.

traylormatt
May 12th, 2011, 01:48 AM
It would have been a fantastic opening episode of season 3 to see what he got up to on the ship all by himself. Hopefully it wouldn't have been some montage but actually maybe dedicated an episode just to him and trying to solve the problem.

Trig
May 12th, 2011, 02:51 AM
Maybe released as kino mini episodes between now and when S3 starts, would fit with my other thread idea..


http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?81240-Eli-isn-t-going-to-fix-it.&p=12611308&viewfull=1#post12611308

Shylodog
May 12th, 2011, 07:36 AM
It would have been a fantastic opening episode of season 3 to see what he got up to on the ship all by himself. Hopefully it wouldn't have been some montage but actually maybe dedicated an episode just to him and trying to solve the problem.

Yeah, like maybe him actually getting a real chance to go through all of the cargo containers that Rush wouldn't let him go through previously. I find it hard to believe that the Ancients wouldn't have placed a stockpile of batteries, food (likely stale or dust by now) and clothing on-board in preparation for their return.

Just when we're led to believe that they've searched the entire ship, they have an episode (what like 2 or three eps. back?) where Eli's still trying to forage through containers. I'd expect they'd hit a motherload somewhere.

garhkal
May 12th, 2011, 04:44 PM
I've not seen the last episode yet, but could Eli just not use the stones, get someone who has more experience with pods to stone in, fix it and then enter the pod?

At least that way with Earth/Destiny interaction the guys on Earth would know what was happening on Destiny..
This would then tie in nicely with my other idea..

And who would that be?? Whom else has more experience with pods?


Yeah, like maybe him actually getting a real chance to go through all of the cargo containers that Rush wouldn't let him go through previously. I find it hard to believe that the Ancients wouldn't have placed a stockpile of batteries, food (likely stale or dust by now) and clothing on-board in preparation for their return.

Even clothing would more than likely be dust now..

Shylodog
May 12th, 2011, 05:26 PM
Even clothing would more than likely be dust now..

Like the fabric on the chairs on the bridge or the blankets and sheets on the bed in their quarters?

Trig
May 13th, 2011, 04:13 AM
And who would that be?? Whom else has more experience with pods?

take your pick, Mckay, Carter, Zelenka, pretty much any of the scientists from McKay/Zelenka's group on Atlantis....

MattSilver 3k
May 13th, 2011, 04:18 AM
take your pick, Mckay, Carter, Zelenka, pretty much any of the scientists from McKay/Zelenka's group on Atlantis....

Different pods?

Also, Young signed off with Telford before they even knew there was a problem with the last, and I'd bet anything that there'd be no-one on stone duty because they'd expect to see them in three years, so Eli probably wouldn't be able to just stone somebody in.

Ser Scot A Ellison
May 13th, 2011, 09:15 AM
HaMm3r,


Think about it...a month worth of food for 40 people would be 40 months of food for one. That's well over three years. As for the spoiling issue, it wouldn't spoil in the frozen vacuum of space, would it? (I'm only considering power-free solutions here, otherwise I'd mention waking Rush up to help with the repairs and putting the food into the stasis pod instead)

Is there a kitchen on board the shuttle or would Eli have to eat the flash frozen food uncooked?

Trig
May 13th, 2011, 02:23 PM
Different pods?

Also, Young signed off with Telford before they even knew there was a problem with the last, and I'd bet anything that there'd be no-one on stone duty because they'd expect to see them in three years, so Eli probably wouldn't be able to just stone somebody in.

Different pods yes but still the same base technology no?
They woudl still have more of an idea than Eli though, however I havent actually seen the last episode, just read whats been said on here and linked via twitter so I dont know the details but yes if they "sign off" then the stones would be out of the question.

That would leave Eli with the fix the pod, stay in the shuttle or leave Destiny entirely lines.

If he did leave Destiny he would have to go backwards down the gate network as the command ships are "at every gate between here and the edge of the galaxy"

garhkal
May 13th, 2011, 04:54 PM
[QUOTE=Shylodog;12613681]Like the fabric on the chairs on the bridge or the blankets and sheets on the bed in their quarters?[/QUOTE[

Point taken.