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SilenceOz
May 4th, 2011, 06:28 AM
Why is Destiny "filling the tank"?
40% battery they said they were at and cant think of the reason Destiny is so hellbent on filling up right this moment.

thekillman
May 4th, 2011, 06:39 AM
i presume it was 40% of their actual reserves (which is 40% of maximum capacity).

oh and Destiny appears to be about to leave the galaxy.

Rylor
May 4th, 2011, 06:42 AM
Because the "tank" was almost empty. They were losing more and more systems and very soon they would have been unable to jump to FTL. The "40% capacity" means the "tank" can only be filled up to 40% of its original design capacity.

escyos
May 4th, 2011, 07:21 AM
Why is Destiny "filling the tank"?
40% battery they said they were at and cant think of the reason Destiny is so hellbent on filling up right this moment.

Because it needed power. They made like 2 jumps before they desperately needed power so Destiny must have known that there was only a few stars in range to get power.

Ser Scot A Ellison
May 4th, 2011, 07:26 AM
I'd really like to know if using the "Type O" star increased their normal energy reserves.

KEK
May 4th, 2011, 07:34 AM
Maybe she knows what's ahead...

Choo1701
May 4th, 2011, 08:30 AM
Maybe she knows what's ahead...

"We can't stop here. This is bat country!"

MathiasE
May 4th, 2011, 09:03 AM
Because the "tank" was almost empty. They were losing more and more systems and very soon they would have been unable to jump to FTL. The "40% capacity" means the "tank" can only be filled up to 40% of its original design capacity.

Perhaps they worded it badly then because they actually did say they had 40% left and were also wondering why Destiny wanted to refuel.

The Destiny
May 4th, 2011, 09:06 AM
I assume 40% of their current maximum 40%

so that would be 16%.

MathiasE
May 4th, 2011, 09:09 AM
I assume 40% of their current maximum 40%

so that would be 16%.

Sure, but Volker is comparing the Destiny to his grandfather who used to fill up his truck when it had 50% of it's tank left ;)
So they would've been better off not mentioning the power reserves at all tbh.

Rylor
May 4th, 2011, 10:04 AM
Perhaps they worded it badly then because they actually did say they had 40% left and were also wondering why Destiny wanted to refuel.

Yeah I agree, the choice of words could have been better. But given the fact that several systems were shutting down (the Infirmary for example) and the explicit mention that they had only one more chance to refuel, I assume it was a reference to the maximum capacity and that the actual energy reserves were pretty low.

Steelbox
May 4th, 2011, 10:18 AM
With the next turmoil in the middle-east the price of fuel is gonna go up. Better refill now than later...

SilenceOz
May 5th, 2011, 04:29 AM
With the next turmoil in the middle-east the price of fuel is gonna go up. Better refill now than later...
Pfft even the sun's heat is being taxed now.

Merlin's_Legacy
May 5th, 2011, 10:24 AM
Sure, but Volker is comparing the Destiny to his grandfather who used to fill up his truck when it had 50% of it's tank left ;)
So they would've been better off not mentioning the power reserves at all tbh.

Volker was saying that his grandfather never filled his truck up to more than half full, so you were always needing to get gas.

Shylodog
May 5th, 2011, 11:02 AM
Volker was saying that his grandfather never filled his truck up to more than half full, so you were always needing to get gas.

That's not what I got from Volker's statement. I understood it to be that his grandfather was always filling it up even when it was half full and he found that funny, whereas Rush made it clear that Volker's grandfather was ensuring the safety of his family by making sure the tank was always full so they would always be able to make it to the next gas station down the road.

garhkal
May 5th, 2011, 02:19 PM
I know plenty of people like that.. Won't wait till they are below a 1/4 a tank..

superman_dh
May 6th, 2011, 03:55 PM
That's not what I got from Volker's statement. I understood it to be that his grandfather was always filling it up even when it was half full and he found that funny, whereas Rush made it clear that Volker's grandfather was ensuring the safety of his family by making sure the tank was always full so they would always be able to make it to the next gas station down the road.

Volker was saying that his grandfather only ever filled the tank to the half way point and in reply, Rush said that filling the tank only half full was putting the family's safety at risk by always worrying about if they will make it to the next gas station. How that relates to the destiny is that Rush doesn't like that destiny can only fill power reserves to only 40% of the original designed capacity, meaning that they have to refuel often and have to worry about finding the right stars to refuel in.

Nth Chevron
May 6th, 2011, 04:05 PM
I doubt refuelling in in the O type star recharged Destiny more than usual.

Would a car battery be more recharged than usual if it was charged to 100% straight from a nuclear reactor or just hooked u to a battery recharger?

N.C

Shylodog
May 6th, 2011, 09:21 PM
Volker was saying that his grandfather only ever filled the tank to the half way point and in reply, Rush said that filling the tank only half full was putting the family's safety at risk by always worrying about if they will make it to the next gas station. How that relates to the destiny is that Rush doesn't like that destiny can only fill power reserves to only 40% of the original designed capacity, meaning that they have to refuel often and have to worry about finding the right stars to refuel in.

No. Absolutely incorrect. Volker said that his grandfather always filled the tank when it got to 50%. You may want to watch the episode again.

Rush was upset with Volker's inability to appreciate that his grandfather was looking out for the safety of his family, much like what Destiny is doing.

morbosfist
May 6th, 2011, 09:47 PM
Rush was upset with Volker's inability to appreciate that his grandfather was looking out for the safety of his family, much like what Destiny is doing.No, Rush didn't find a comparison between an old man's habit regarding a mundane activity and the vital need for power of their current locale funny. Your car running out of gas is hardly a matter of life or death. Destiny running out of power is.

Shylodog
May 6th, 2011, 10:30 PM
Your car running out of gas is hardly a matter of life or death. Destiny running out of power is.

In Volker's grandfather's time it certainly could have been. Especially if it was a cross country trip in a vehicle that likely got 5 to 10 miles per gallon in a time when gas stations weren't usually found on every street corner. Highway 50 in the US is STILL a very dangerous strip of road to travel if you don't stop for gas at every gas station along the way.

morbosfist
May 6th, 2011, 10:55 PM
If Volker can remember him doing it, then it couldn't have been more than 10 or 20 years ago. Ergo, not dangerous. You're missing the point of Rush's annoyance.

Shylodog
May 7th, 2011, 12:02 AM
If Volker can remember him doing it, then it couldn't have been more than 10 or 20 years ago. Ergo, not dangerous. You're missing the point of Rush's annoyance.

I gauge Volker's age to be close to mine in the mid to late 30s. 30 or more years ago isn't impossible. And as I have stated previously it's STILL dangerous today. I know, because I've driven across the US more times than a person can count on their hands.

I've completely grasped Rush's annoyance. He is annoyed at Volker not only because he's making light of their current situation, but his grandfather's as well.

morrismike
May 7th, 2011, 03:15 AM
I doubt refuelling in in the O type star recharged Destiny more than usual.

Would a car battery be more recharged than usual if it was charged to 100% straight from a nuclear reactor or just hooked u to a battery recharger?

N.C
It would charger better at 16v than at 14v.

Rylor
May 7th, 2011, 05:27 AM
I doubt refuelling in in the O type star recharged Destiny more than usual.

Would a car battery be more recharged than usual if it was charged to 100% straight from a nuclear reactor or just hooked u to a battery recharger?

N.C


It would charger better at 16v than at 14v.

The higher the voltage, the bigger the chance the battery is damaged or destroyed in the process. If you would hook up a battery directly to a nuclear reactor, the high voltage would practically melt it.
But to be fair, we have no idea how Destiny stores the energy it collects from the stars. A chemical battery would be insufficient by a large margin, at least, with our current knowledge.

morsu
May 7th, 2011, 11:41 PM
I would not be surprised if Destiny was indeed at 100 percent.
Maybe the extra heat from that blue Supergiant actually cleaned the collecters.
Maybe there was nothing wrong with the storage tanks themselves but the collecters which were not operating at full capacity. With no one to provide Maintanence over those millions of years it is expected for things not to operate at 100%.
It is possible that the extrat heat did it for them.

It is also possible that the blue supergiant had more volume of gas to collect from in such as short time. I say this because if I was the engineer I would only allow an unmaned vessel to go into a sun for only a fraction of the time it was actually capable of to limit possible damage.


But that's just me.

morbosfist
May 8th, 2011, 06:27 AM
I gauge Volker's age to be close to mine in the mid to late 30s. 30 or more years ago isn't impossible. And as I have stated previously it's STILL dangerous today. I know, because I've driven across the US more times than a person can count on their hands.

I've completely grasped Rush's annoyance. He is annoyed at Volker not only because he's making light of their current situation, but his grandfather's as well.So it's dangerous to run out of gas near a stoplight or driving down some random street in a neighborhood? Running out of gas is only dangerous in a select few circumstances, which is why it's a poor comparison to a spaceship losing power.

Shylodog
May 8th, 2011, 10:19 AM
So it's dangerous to run out of gas near a stoplight or driving down some random street in a neighborhood? Running out of gas is only dangerous in a select few circumstances, which is why it's a poor comparison to a spaceship losing power.

Except the assumption (at least on my part) is that Rush was taking Volker's analogy in the context of Destiny's situation. Driving across a continent would be consistent with Destiny flying across galaxies.

Shylodog
May 8th, 2011, 10:23 AM
I would not be surprised if Destiny was indeed at 100 percent.
Maybe the extra heat from that blue Supergiant actually cleaned the collecters.
Maybe there was nothing wrong with the storage tanks themselves but the collecters which were not operating at full capacity. With no one to provide Maintanence over those millions of years it is expected for things not to operate at 100%.
It is possible that the extrat heat did it for them.

But that's just me.

Here's my issue with folks take on Destiny being anywhere near full capacity. They are consistently referring to power reserves. A reserve is, by definition, a back-up supply. I'm not even sure that Destiny's regular power supply is working, let alone charging.

morbosfist
May 8th, 2011, 10:51 AM
Except the assumption (at least on my part) is that Rush was taking Volker's analogy in the context of Destiny's situation. Driving across a continent would be consistent with Destiny flying across galaxies.That makes no sense. Volker's analogy refers to his grandfather just doing it for no reason. Rush's very apparent sarcasm is calling attention to the fact that the two are nothing alike.

Shylodog
May 8th, 2011, 11:09 AM
That makes no sense. Volker's analogy refers to his grandfather just doing it for no reason. Rush's very apparent sarcasm is calling attention to the fact that the two are nothing alike.

So says you. I got what I got out of it.

MathiasE
May 8th, 2011, 11:11 AM
Here's my issue with folks take on Destiny being anywhere near full capacity. They are consistently referring to power reserves. A reserve is, by definition, a back-up supply. I'm not even sure that Destiny's regular power supply is working, let alone charging.

Power reserve can be aimed at the primary power supply as well depending on the context.

Shylodog
May 8th, 2011, 11:21 AM
Power reserve can be aimed at the primary power supply as well depending on the context.

Power reserve, when referring to a singular power source, usually means the predetermined percentage that the manufacturer stresses a refill is necessary. At around 10%, most cars nowadays will ding to let you know you'll need to refill soon. InDestiny's case however, as with most scientific and military situations, it should mean a reserve tank (so to speak).

garhkal
May 8th, 2011, 02:00 PM
And most cars still have a gallon or two of gas left once your meter is on empty.. usually good for 30-40 miles.

morsu
May 8th, 2011, 02:51 PM
Here's my issue with folks take on Destiny being anywhere near full capacity. They are consistently referring to power reserves. A reserve is, by definition, a back-up supply. I'm not even sure that Destiny's regular power supply is working, let alone charging.

When you Car has a full tank of Fuel it is at 100 percent capacity. What is so hard to understand about that?
The only difference is that Destiny has a full tank of Hydrogen Gas Super heated no less. You try storing that!
Could you imagine the presure that the super heated gas would create?

I would not mind betting that, that is why Destiny only stores at 40% Capacity for normal running.Limit the capacity you limit the Stress and the Danger on the tanks.

I would not also mind betting that the ancients set this up on purpose so that destiny only stores at 100% when required.

Like i said before just because you can store at 100% it does not mean that you have to all the time.
I am certanly not talking about batteries!

That was just one of my ideas.

Shylodog
May 8th, 2011, 03:15 PM
But they keep referring to the reserves, not the core capacity. That's my point. When to reserve something, it's stored for use later, after the main item is gone.

Ser Scot A Ellison
May 9th, 2011, 04:39 AM
I just hope this question is addressed and clarified in the final episode.