Why so far from Milky Way?

[Snowman37]

I think after Earth basically inherited the legacy of both the Ancients and the Asgard, Earth became the superpower of the Milky Way. Earth has the role the Goa'uld System Lords once had and that of the Ancients before them. Only the Lucian Alliance are bold enough to mess with Earth, and that's only because they laid claim to all of the Goa'uld ships not claimed by the Free Jaffa. Maybe that's why Brad Wright and friends wanted to distance Universe away from SG-1/SGA. Tonally, the change didn't have to be so vast. Putting people on an ancient ship, so old it's falling apart, hundreds of galaxies away... well, that's change enough, right? To me, it was to get away from super-technology and return to strange, new worlds with minimal resources. The problem (for me), is they almost never left the ship, and there was too much conflict between characters. In desperation, people unite. Why didn't this happen on Destiny? Anyway, the bottom line is... why do you think the Destiny was set so far from the Milky Way galaxy? Why do you think the producers and writers wanted Destiny isolated?

[s09119]

Because that was needed to create the best of the franchise. Nuff said.

[Keeper]

people won't always unite in desperation, and with 2 separate leaders - young and rush - people are pulled apart. they did, eventually, unite, but only because young is capable of doing what he needs to to hold onto power as much as possible (i.e. leaving rush for dead.) on the other hand, more could have been made of undercurrents - and frankly, the whole ship seems about as politically charged as a group of pre-schoolers. perhaps less so, since pre-schoolers will cry about who did what.



in terms of tone, i personally believe that they saw BSG, thought 'i want' and decided to write it themselves. they already had a working franchise to launch it, instead of having to spin a totally new concept. unfortunately, they weren't able to deliver on a gritty adult drama set in space.



the relative lack of gate use would, for me, have been fine if they'd gone with a title like stargate: destiny. as it is, universe is just too broad a concept for people to relate to - while stargate is pretty much in storage, since the show isn't really supposed to be part of the franchise, it's just a good launcher.

disassociation from the gate, with no firm concept to encourage the viewer to care as part of the show's apparent focus (title) will easily prevent a lot of viewers from caring. i can't think of any other show whose setting or activities were so completely disassociated from the titular focus of the show.



to be fair, an ancient ship that's been travelling for a length of time that is disputed, but is at least thousands, and potentially millions, of years MUST be a bit of a wreck. but i agree that focusing on surviving on board the ship, when there's a stargate on board for some kind of reason, was a misstep.



SG1/A had built earth to be so powerful, it wasn't really possible to base it in MW. we'd be able to resupply regularly, change crews, anything we needed - hell, even provide a fleet escort for destiny. not that we have much, but in their spare time all ships could be there. even in a close galaxy, the ship with the asgard core could probably have waltzed over there, and provided its services.

[magictrick]

They wanted to create a series that was more character driven, not a reboot of SG-1 where they explore new worlds in a different part of the universe.

[blueray]

They wanted to create a series that was more character driven, not a reboot of SG-1 where they explore new worlds in a different part of the universe.

^this

if they had destiny be closer it would be hard to explain why the people are stranded since earth has ships. one thing i don't get or like is that they no longer show the sgc.

[Keeper]

^this

if they had destiny be closer it would be hard to explain why the people are stranded since earth has ships. one thing i don't get or like is that they no longer show the sgc.

basically, time constraints.

the stones need to be a little more accessible rather than in a facility that has constant gate activity, and since the gate isn't being used to contact destiny it's not a practical location to show. they could argue that someone needs to visit it for some reason, but tbh that would be creating a situation that would take away from destiny itself.

for immediate briefings, the pentagon is a much more useful location for the stones. it also means that the producers don't have to waste time trying to depict the SGC when they could be showing more shots of the ship falling apart

[garhkal]

^this

if they had destiny be closer it would be hard to explain why the people are stranded since earth has ships.

Yup. They are truely on their own, unlike atlantis was.

[Shadow_7]

Well Atlantis was on it's own for at least a couple of episodes. Just like Destiny got a resupply by the end of the first season. Of sorts anyway with the LA folks and their weapons. And a potential supply line with Jonas's world, baring the usual politics on BOTH sides of the universe.

I don't think that the Pentagon is a good stone base. If say the blue aliens use them, they're just a couple of blocks from the leadership of a nation. As opposed to burried in an underground facility in the middle of nowhere that can be imploded on demand. Now the stones don't have to be in either location. At least the writers acknowledged that much by having them in both. Budget wise it would make more sense to place them nearest the average distance from "families" of the occupants of Destiny. And/or near a major airport. Preferably a military facility too. At which point Scott AFB near Lambert would probably make more sense than the Pentagon.

As far as Earth as a super power. Earth is only one planet. Even with advanced tech, the LA folks have many planets and a ton of interplanetary infrastructure. Per that one comedians joke, they could kayak over and still put up a good fight. i.e. A tactical advantage by sheer girth / size / numbers. They could probably point laser pointers from all of their planets and ships at earth and affect climate change on earth. baring that time of travel thing which might require a few hundred years to have their sums combine in a potentially destructive way. Where you couldn't do that for Destiny since it's travelled faster than light for so long.

[escyos]

It would seem silly if they were on the other side of the galaxy............... .................... ...

[webxro]

If it was closer we wouldn't have any reason to stay on destiny , we would have a 304 following them and sending people on the ship from time to time .

[Gatefan1976]

Yup. They are truely on their own, unlike atlantis was.

You are Joking, right??
For nearly all of S1, Atlantis had NO contact with Earth at all. No ships, No Gate and No Stones. SGA had stable contact with "offworld cultures" sure, but SGA took years to achieve the same level of communication with Earth as SGU did in it's first half season.

[Mr Evil 37]

You are Joking, right??
For nearly all of S1, Atlantis had NO contact with Earth at all. No ships, No Gate and No Stones. SGA had stable contact with "offworld cultures" sure, but SGA took years to achieve the same level of communication with Earth as SGU did in it's first half season.

Yeah, for ONE SEASON. Then for FOUR SEASONS Atlantis was in near-constant contact with Earth; they could go back and forth virtually whenever they wished via the Daedalus. With SGU, they would have been stuck on the ship all the way through the show.

[Keeper]

Yeah, for ONE SEASON. Then for FOUR SEASONS Atlantis was in near-constant contact with Earth; they could go back and forth virtually whenever they wished via the Daedalus. With SGU, they would have been stuck on the ship all the way through the show.

still with near-constant contact and the knowledge that earth was looking for a way to get to them - and to be honest, we don't know if the writers were going to GIVE earth a means to get there. even if they didn't though, able to go back regularly to see your family - as opposed to not knowing if you'll ever see them again - is something.

atlantis didn't know if earth was even trying to reach them - they knew earth had no power to dial a second time, and they didn't know what threats might have arisen in their absence to prevent ships from coming over. in fact, for an intergalactic journey with no certainty of finding anyone alive at the end, atlantis understood that earth wasn't going to send help. and when atlantis asked for help just before the siege, they couldn't be sure that earth had even got the message - let alone understood.

i agree that over time atlantis was in greater contact - but it doesn't change that universe made contact even faster, and hasn't really demonstrated being 'alone' as yet.

[FoX-1028]

because it was launched millions of years ago

[garhkal]

Yeah, for ONE SEASON. Then for FOUR SEASONS Atlantis was in near-constant contact with Earth; they could go back and forth virtually whenever they wished via the Daedalus. With SGU, they would have been stuck on the ship all the way through the show.

Yup. SGA had regular runs to and from earth after season 1 ended, and even got a macro up for jumper runs to and from (plus teh dadelus making runs).

Even if you consider the stones to and from earth, they still only get to have 4 max go at any one time. And so far only 1 other gate in has happened.