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GateWorld
April 18th, 2011, 07:39 AM
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<FONT SIZE=4><A HREF="http://www.scifistream.com/sanctuary/s3/" STYLE="text-decoration: none">ONE NIGHT</A></FONT>
<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 313</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">What started as an innocent first date for Will and Abby turns into a dangerous kidnapping by a gang whose leader faces certain death without their help. <I>(SPACE)</I></DIV>
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Skydiver
April 25th, 2011, 07:54 PM
Yes, i shall go to fan hell but....underwhelming.

Parts were good, Kate and biggie and declan. There was an interesting twist with the slave ship, but too much of this felt forced to me. Warrior Chiclet was amazingly unthreatening, Abby was alarmingly annoying, she and will spent way too much time chit chatting and....it needed more of a B story. There was just no wow factor.

so....maybe it's a sign of what happens when you go from 13 - 20, deadlines and time constraints keep a person from polishing as much as maybe a script needed.

Mandysg1
April 25th, 2011, 07:59 PM
Yea I agree Sky, what an episode to use for the new night and trying to get more fans :(

The story was just not good, and no amount of great directing can save that. I'm sorry Amanda was given such a weak script to work with....I'm sorry to say Damian dropped the ball on this one. At least the preview for next week looked much better.

General Jumper One
April 25th, 2011, 08:01 PM
Nice episode not the best but still good, except for the main Abby parts

KayLyne
April 25th, 2011, 08:01 PM
Sorry to any Will fans, but this has got to be the most boring episode of this show that I have seen in the 3 seasons. I started thinking that the move to Monday nights was just a cover for a very boring introduction to the Will Zimmerman show.

- Abby was annoying.
- Badass Kate could have wiped the floor with wanna-be badass gang lady (yes, I know - she was supposedly on the "good" side)
- 25 minutes into the episode before we saw any part that didn't include Will or Abby? I'll just pretend that part didn't exist.
- would have loved more Kate/Biggie/Declan coming to the rescue.

On the plus side:
- sleepy Magnus is adorable
- we got another patented Amanda crane shot!! (I love that as her signature)

Skydiver
April 25th, 2011, 08:02 PM
yeah, not quite the work you want to use to hook new viewers.

i liked the burlap sack shot, and other shots...it just wasn't a good episode.

General Jumper One
April 25th, 2011, 08:03 PM
And the thing is undercover FBI agents have permission to do cruel things to keep their cover, I know she wasn't in the FBI, but still that chick was pathetic

Skydiver
April 25th, 2011, 08:05 PM
the kate, declan, biggie 'pre date nookie' was good. I can understand biggie not 'getting' her insinuation, but you'd think declan would.

and hey, there are 3 pretty little boxes that'll end up on a charity auction some day

sleepy helen was cute...and hey, she DOES have a weakness....jet lag and taking a nap (and dude, i woulda killed to take a nap today)

too bad Hangover didn't air tonight, i think that one was more interesting

majorsal
April 25th, 2011, 08:05 PM
is helen in this ep very much?

General Jumper One
April 25th, 2011, 08:06 PM
is helen in this ep very much?

about 2 to 3 mins at most

Steff
April 25th, 2011, 08:07 PM
Yea I agree Sky, what an episode to use for the new night and trying to get more fans :(

The story was just not good, and no amount of great directing can save that. I'm sorry Amanda was given such a weak script to work with....I'm sorry to say Damian dropped the ball on this one. At least the preview for next week looked much better.

Maybe this was part of the Dumbing it down for the mainstream viewer? And we are just Too Smart for that. hehe

Mandysg1
April 25th, 2011, 08:07 PM
is helen in this ep very much?

No, very little. Which was good for Amanda and her directing, but bad for the episode in how it was written.

Skydiver
April 25th, 2011, 08:08 PM
she directed so she had a small video feed and then a scene at the end, it's about 70% abby adn will, 20% kate, biggie and declan, 10% helen

Steff
April 25th, 2011, 08:09 PM
the kate, declan, biggie 'pre date nookie' was good. I can understand biggie not 'getting' her insinuation, but you'd think declan would.

and hey, there are 3 pretty little boxes that'll end up on a charity auction some day

sleepy helen was cute...and hey, she DOES have a weakness....jet lag and taking a nap (and dude, i woulda killed to take a nap today)

too bad Hangover didn't air tonight, i think that one was more interesting

Hangover was a stronger episode. yeah.... too bad it wasn't tonight. I rewatched that one several times. Tonight was the first time I have rewatched One Night.... I think I might have to watch Hangover again. It shows how a bottle episode should be. hehe

Feast of the Muse
April 25th, 2011, 08:15 PM
*channeling Daniel* I miss Helen. *nods head*

Glad to know for AT's sake that she was directing, but I agree, too much Will and Abby, not enough of the team. I missed who wrote this, but you'd think there could have at least been more build-up sooner so they at least got some more screen time (and we got a break from Will).

I did very much enjoy Helen's voice drop at the end and the Magnus smile. And I think the camera opening on her sleeping was to make a point - AT wore herself out without even being on camera. :P

AtlantisRules!!!
April 25th, 2011, 08:17 PM
More abby please :D

I think its good we finally get a Will focused eppy. I feel like he's the least used character, maybe that's just me tho :P

Steff
April 25th, 2011, 08:19 PM
she directed so she had a small video feed and then a scene at the end, it's about 70% abby adn will, 20% kate, biggie and declan, 10% helen

They had six days of shooting and "Helen" was done in one day. So Amanda was totally free to direct the other five.

EvenstarSRV
April 25th, 2011, 08:35 PM
Yes, i shall go to fan hell but....underwhelming.

Parts were good, Kate and biggie and declan. There was an interesting twist with the slave ship, but too much of this felt forced to me. Warrior Chiclet was amazingly unthreatening, Abby was alarmingly annoying, she and will spent way too much time chit chatting and....it needed more of a B story. There was just no wow factor.

so....maybe it's a sign of what happens when you go from 13 - 20, deadlines and time constraints keep a person from polishing as much as maybe a script needed.

Yeah, this episode desperately needed a stronger B storyline, better pacing in the beginning, and a tighter conclusion. The Will and Abby stuff was alright, though there was a bit too much chatting and repetition in the threats and Will's exasperation, not to mention the maddeningly dodgy medicine. The parts that worked best for me were the opening scenes of their date, Will and Abby analyzing their captors behavior, and the last bit when Will gave Abby the injection.

I liked the Kate, Biggy, and Declan stuff, everyone's fascination with the Italian restaurant was pretty amusing, and jet-lagged Magnus at the end was pretty cute. Though, TBH, I think the episode should have ended with Will and Abby to 'officially' end the date and bookend the episode. The ghost ship was an interesting twist though I think they could have done more with it.

As far as directing it looked good with some interesting shots like the POV ones during the capture, some of the crane shots, and the zoom in on the gun when Sioux got shot.

jelgate
April 25th, 2011, 08:41 PM
More abby please :D

I think its good we finally get a Will focused eppy. I feel like he's the least used character, maybe that's just me tho :P

Its just you:P He seems second only to Helen in focused.

And yeah this one was boring. The show has lost direction since the Hollow Earth storyline was concluded.

mandogater
April 25th, 2011, 09:34 PM
yeah, not quite the work you want to use to hook new viewers.

i liked the burlap sack shot, and other shots...it just wasn't a good episode.

I agree not the best episode to use on a new day to hopefully hook new viewers.

The Kate, Biggie, Declan stuff was the only saving grace.

Have I missed something or has Abby gotten to hear way too much about abnormals to not be brought into the fold?
As far as we know she hasn't even gotten a tour of the place and yet was able to put enough togther to ask Will if an abnormal attacked Gibbs. I know she saved Biggie but come on.

majorsal
April 25th, 2011, 10:02 PM
about 2 to 3 mins at most

:eek:

:eek:

planet_tv
April 25th, 2011, 11:14 PM
I'll say this I thought the episode was alright but not one I will be watching again any time soon. If I were to re-watch the series then I would and that would be the only time. I did, however, like the ending scene.

Steff
April 25th, 2011, 11:55 PM
I'll say this I thought the episode was alright but not one I will be watching again any time soon. If I were to re-watch the series then I would and that would be the only time. I did, however, like the ending scene.

Agreed.... and the ending scene was a nice distraction.

Just a bit .....

One save, if they had not rewritten the episode to take Helen out and replace/rewrite her lines for Kate/Declan. I do like the Declan character but he did seem a bit out of place. Originally, with Helen the B story would have started sooner and had a more balanced feel. Plus more depth on the rescue and the ghost ship. It went from a Sanctuary episode we might love to a rewritten bore. *yawn*

But to be fair. I did enjoy it the first watch. Just not one to rewatch and review..... grrrrrrr....

sanctuary girl
April 25th, 2011, 11:59 PM
All right, let's see. Not one of the better episodes. Not totally horrible, but for Sanctuary standards not good.
In Bankjob Will said something like "obviousliy crazy, just my type" about the hostage that adores him. I wonder if that has to apply to all his girlfriends, cause Abby is certifiably insane! Talk sense into someone with a gun, not calling for help but coming back instead... but on the other hand constantly whining. Sorry, did I already state that I do not like her?:P

On the plus side, I really liked the trio at the Sanctuary and Magnus (too bad there wasn't more of that) and the way the episode was shot, with the movement and the craneshot;)

RealmOfX
April 26th, 2011, 01:29 AM
Seriously Damian, What Were You Thinking?!?!?!?!?

Abby has to be one of the worst examples of an FBI agent I have ever seen. She had me cringing with almost everything she did and Will wasn't much better.

Cringing and bored is not how you want your eps to be remembered! As mentioned by others, there were a few lighter, higher points to the episode back at the Sanctuary and looking out for Amanda's choice in shots was good but overall it's a meh eppy for me and goes in the never to be rewatched pile.

This was not an episode to introduce new people to the show on a new night *shudders*

Julian
April 26th, 2011, 03:35 AM
AT (nearly said Helen! :P) did a great job directing this episode. That aside... script needed a serious makeover.

Boring as hell (as people had said), I liked the Kate scenes (for once!), but the gang who kidnapped them etc seemed so... blah

Oh also, I found the story confusing as to follow at times, like their repeated attempts to escape and such... and the last bit with Helen and Will? Cheesy!

Went from a great episode to such a crap episode in only 3 days :(

Chelle DB
April 26th, 2011, 04:18 AM
I think its good we finally get a Will focused eppy. I feel like he's the least used character, maybe that's just me tho :P
I'm sorry...really I am...but I just laughed out really loud when I read that...least used character?? I was begining to wonder if they were going to rename the show with it's new day to the Will Zimmerman show.
Again, I'm sorry. I'm sure you adore the character of Will and that's great.
I happen to adore Helen and Kate and Biggie and especially Tesla but I am now ever so slowly getting a wee bit bored with Will. No offense intended to either you or Robin Dunne. :)

Seriously Damian, What Were You Thinking?!?!?!?!?
Abby has to be one of the worst examples of an FBI agent I have ever seen. She had me cringing with almost everything she did and Will wasn't much better.
Cringing and bored is not how you want your eps to be remembered! As mentioned by others, there were a few lighter, higher points to the episode back at the Sanctuary and looking out for Amanda's choice in shots was good but overall it's a meh eppy for me and goes in the never to be rewatched pile.
This was not an episode to introduce new people to the show on a new night *shudders*
So would it be fair to say that this is up there with "Warriors" as one of Sanctuary's worst eps? We're talking poor storyline right?
Poor Sanctuary team...I wonder what they must be thinking of these reviews thus far...I'm really not looking forward to next weeks ep...looks like another Will centered story. :( Please bring back Helen and the abnormals she chases...and Tesla and John...bring back the yummy goodness! :)

Skydiver
April 26th, 2011, 04:32 AM
Will, with his second billing, definitely gets second place in the lines and storyline department.

will can be interesting. (although his perpetual spoiled brat histrionics in Hangover was really getting on my nerves)

here's hoping enough people watched long enough to trigger decent ratings for it last night.

I'm not sure if it's poor writing or poor casting for the bad guys.

It almost read like a WIP, where the author forgets how many times she's played the 'do this or i shoot' card, and keeps playing it in every chapter.

I did think that Kate was funny in her combat gear. It looks like they put an XL on her because she was almost comically bulked up that she looked like a little kid playing dressup

Chelle DB
April 26th, 2011, 04:36 AM
I did think that Kate was funny in her combat gear. It looks like they put an XL on her because she was almost comically bulked up that she looked like a little kid playing dressup
I don't know why but Kate always makes me smile...she's just cute in her own special way...I love her...I think she's a great addition to the team. :D

RealmOfX
April 26th, 2011, 04:40 AM
So would it be fair to say that this is up there with "Warriors" as one of Sanctuary's worst eps? We're talking poor storyline right?
Poor Sanctuary team...I wonder what they must be thinking of these reviews thus far...I'm really not looking forward to next weeks ep...looks like another Will centered story. :( Please bring back Helen and the abnormals she chases...and Tesla and John...bring back the yummy goodness! :)

For me it was a very meh ep because of the script however that was compounded by a pet hate of mine of fitting characters to plots instead of writing a character true to form and weaving them into the plot. I don't hate Will but he's not a fave of mine because, to me, they almost always fit him to the plot whether it makes sense of not.

And yes, this eppy is joining Warriors in my "will not rewatch" pile. Thankfully it's an extremely small pile :D

Chelle DB
April 26th, 2011, 05:21 AM
For me it was a very meh ep because of the script however that was compounded by a pet hate of mine of fitting characters to plots instead of writing a character true to form and weaving them into the plot. I don't hate Will but he's not a fave of mine because, to me, they almost always fit him to the plot whether it makes sense of not.
And yes, this eppy is joining Warriors in my "will not rewatch" pile. Thankfully it's an extremely small pile :D
You hit the nail on the head...that's exactly how it feels. :)

siles
April 26th, 2011, 06:17 AM
10 minutes into the episode and no Helen or Henry or Biggie - I almost gave up this episode...

siles
April 26th, 2011, 06:45 AM
I won't be surprised if this episode gets less than 1.2 mil viewers; what a ****ty episode for the move on Mondays...

Chelle DB
April 26th, 2011, 07:56 AM
To me it felt like a filler ep...something to fill in the time rather then something to engross the mind...it was like a sedative for me which is kinda good coz I need the sleep. :P
Loved seeing Declan again...and I do admit, I love it when Robin puts on the English accent...he does it so well. :D

jckfan55
April 26th, 2011, 09:07 AM
Seriously Damian, What Were You Thinking?!?!?!?!?

Abby has to be one of the worst examples of an FBI agent I have ever seen. She had me cringing with almost everything she did and Will wasn't much better.

Cringing and bored is not how you want your eps to be remembered! As mentioned by others, there were a few lighter, higher points to the episode back at the Sanctuary and looking out for Amanda's choice in shots was good but overall it's a meh eppy for me and goes in the never to be rewatched pile.

This was not an episode to introduce new people to the show on a new night *shudders*

:indeed: Good to hear I'm not alone. Welcome to the Snooze-uary. :D I never find Will particularly interesting, but if he's surrounded well he's ok. Abby was so annoying i was hoping she'd die. :eek:

When you're actually watching for the directing technique(a couple of cool moves) b/c the plot is so dull that's not a good sign imho. It seemed like the story took a long time to develop.

I did like the parts with Helen and the fact that the team back at the Sanctuary figured things out pretty quickly.

ETA: this is not to say I'll stop watching the show. I'm sure we'll get a few "hit out of the park" episodes yet.

Feast of the Muse
April 26th, 2011, 09:29 AM
It almost read like a WIP, where the author forgets how many times she's played the 'do this or i shoot' card, and keeps playing it in every chapter.

Yes, exactly. It felt like they didn't finish editing it before they started shooting it. For the first few minutes I was caught up and all excited, but after 10 minutes it started falling down. I remember looking at the clock 26 minutes in and about choking that it had actually gotten that far in with no Helen. Still didn't see her until a few minutes after that.



I did think that Kate was funny in her combat gear. It looks like they put an XL on her because she was almost comically bulked up that she looked like a little kid playing dressup

Yeah, reminded me of Jennifer Hailey in her blackhawk vest. I love seeing the little girls kick ass! (says a little girl)

CathieJ7
April 26th, 2011, 10:34 AM
Wow, all these negative responses to the episode. I will agree though, it was a bit slow for Sanctuary. I was wondering if it was going to be just Will and Abby in the whole episode as well. Glad to see Biggie, Kate and Declan arrived... Helen needed a bit more face time... poor Henry wasn't even in the background of the video clip with Helen. I know RyRo was busy with other projects and Amanda was directing this, however, it was very slow going. Honestly, when I saw the commercial for it I was wondering if Abby would die in this episode.

Agreed - Abby was very whiny and then tried to confront their captor. They should have been shot sometime in the episode... there were too many open threats and nothing followed through.

Next week's episode looks better. I'm sure we'll get some awesome ratings for that one.

dipsofjazz
April 26th, 2011, 10:52 AM
I have to agree with everyone that this was not a good episode.

The writing failed, the baddies were clichéd and badly acted, too much Will and Abbie, and it desperately needed a 'B' story.

Such a disappointment.

Kilgharrah
April 26th, 2011, 11:15 AM
OK, let's see, one night.
It's a disappointment after I was excited to watch two episodes that close to each other.
1- Why is it called one night?
2-Why do we have to see what Will does outside the sanctuary? I don't even like this character and I don't care what he does with his private life.
3-Where did they find that actress??? No looks, no acting skills, not convincing. NOTHING!!!!
4-I can't believe he didn't try to do anything to get away from the gang when they were first caught or even try to protect the girl with him. He just gave them the wallet.????!!!!! What was that???
5-I wasn't convinced that this gang was a killer gang. A real killer gang would not be fooled by the scorpion trick.
6-Magnus was away only to add more time to the episode.
7-I was OK with Will knowing some of the medical stuff coz he sees Magnus while working and could remember it. In addition to the basic medical stuff that every type of doctor studies when they join the school of Medicine. But what about his girlfriend??? She only depends on those basic stuff she learned at school and still she has some knowledge of what they were doing.
8- I liked that Will tried doing these medical stuff and actually succeeding. He's a fast learner. Even though it's not realistic, but hey, this is sci-fi.

This episode reminded me of
SGU episode "Hope" (214). When T.J. performed that operation on Volker and Greer.

MelissaAdams
April 26th, 2011, 02:53 PM
Well let me jump on the bandwagon saying this was one of the least 'interesting' episodes of the series but honestly every series has them. I watched both airings and they were interesting but not my favorites by any means.

Amanda did a fantastic job on directing hands down, I loved some of the shots and honestly before this show I never paid attention to stuff like that, but she did fantastic. Also let me say as well that I don't have Will, in fact he's quite fascinating but only when he's interacting with others, he's portrayed like Daniel in SG1 a little geeky which means playing in just his mind or his world is not really for most of us aka viewers.

On the feeling of Abby I have to say she's not twisting my chain yet, kind of goofy boring and honestly if she had acted like that and I had a gun I would have shot her.

The Kate/Declan/Biggie scenes were fantastic and I liked the whole Alfredo reference. This was definitely a filler episode you could tell and it accomplished what it HAD to but it did not surpass the bar for me.

Next week's episode though I'm REALLY looking forward to.

EvenstarSRV
April 26th, 2011, 03:13 PM
Yes, exactly. It felt like they didn't finish editing it before they started shooting it. For the first few minutes I was caught up and all excited, but after 10 minutes it started falling down. I remember looking at the clock 26 minutes in and about choking that it had actually gotten that far in with no Helen. Still didn't see her until a few minutes after that.


While I wasn't too fussed with the lack of Helen, I think the pacing in the first half of the episode was a bit too slow to build any kind of tension. Instead of spending the entire first act with Will and Abby, I think it would have been better to cut back to Sanctuary earlier and provide some reason for Declan being there, like maybe he's been involved in the investigation of the ghost ship. It was quite nice to see Declan again, that first scene with him Kate and Biggie was probably my favorite of the ep.

For Will and Abby's parts, I think they could have cut out the second escape attempt and tightened up some of their banter scenes. The parts on the bench or them trying to analyze the bad guys behaviors worked best for me, considering they were both profilers I was expecting much more of that. But it was stuff like Will getting offended at Abby's suggestion that he was the wrong guy to kidnap that went on too long I think. I could kinda see it as a guy trying to impress a girl on a first date, but it felt out of place with what was happening to them.

On the bright side, this time the last couple of years would have been the end of the season but we've got 7 more episodes to look forward too! :)

suse
April 26th, 2011, 03:19 PM
Seriously Damian, What Were You Thinking?!?!?!?!?

Abby has to be one of the worst examples of an FBI agent I have ever seen. She had me cringing with almost everything she did and Will wasn't much better.

Cringing and bored is not how you want your eps to be remembered! As mentioned by others, there were a few lighter, higher points to the episode back at the Sanctuary and looking out for Amanda's choice in shots was good but overall it's a meh eppy for me and goes in the never to be rewatched pile.

This was not an episode to introduce new people to the show on a new night *shudders*

:( Word. I was cringing most of the way thru it. Yeah, I'd place it above Warriors but not by much. And well below Hero.

There were a few times I liked Abby. She was amusing at the toilet. But Abby/Will... there was entirely too much chitchat/flirting for the situation they were in. Especially as their kidnappers were supposed to be hardened killers.

And I totally didn't buy her having all those poison darts in her in the same pattern Lead Bad Guy had them in. She'd have never stood for it, not as much as she hates needles... That's one of the few things that should have been changed on set that I'm disappointed Amanda didn't see. The dialogue. :S not much could save the bulk of that. Sorry Damian.

Hopefully this is the low point of the season. :eek: Hopefully Amanda had better luck with her directing script in S4.

Like Sky and several others I thought the Biggie/Kate/Declan conversation was wonderful. By far the best part of the ep. :lol: And Kate on the phone. Hehehehehe.

ETA: Ya know, it's not that the dialogue was so bad. It's the circumstances in which it was said.

suse
April 26th, 2011, 03:20 PM
For Will and Abby's parts, I think they could have cut out the second escape attempt and tightened up some of their banter scenes. The parts on the bench or them trying to analyze the bad guys behaviors worked best for me, considering they were both profilers I was expecting much more of that.

On the bright side, this time the last couple of years would have been the end of the season but we've got 7 more episodes to look forward too! :)

Yes, I did like the profiling bit too.

Yay! 7 more eps! :D

Steff
April 26th, 2011, 03:24 PM
Yes, I did like the profiling bit too.

Yay! 7 more eps! :D


7 more..... :D :D Looking forward to next week. Woohooooo

charles582
April 26th, 2011, 03:44 PM
Do you guys think there is any chance that abby is playing will. Like she is trying to infilitrate the sanctuary or something to that effect?

Steff
April 26th, 2011, 03:48 PM
Do you guys think there is any chance that abby is playing will. Like she is trying to infilitrate the sanctuary or something to that effect?

I like how you think Charles. Do you write fanfic? I would love to see your plot lines.

majorsal
April 26th, 2011, 03:48 PM
amanda did a nice job directing! :)

oh, where was the crane shot?

suse
April 26th, 2011, 03:52 PM
Do you guys think there is any chance that abby is playing will. Like she is trying to infilitrate the sanctuary or something to that effect?

I would think Helen would have her checked out. Just because she knows weather Will wears boxers or briefs - or goes commando. ;) It concerns me a bit that Will didn't remember her at all. :S

KayLyne
April 26th, 2011, 03:56 PM
Do you guys think there is any chance that abby is playing will. Like she is trying to infilitrate the sanctuary or something to that effect?

I thought that was possible when we first saw her. However, if that's the case, then they would be undoing everything they were trying to accomplish with this episode - including Will's affection for her and trust in her as well as Will's ability to profile people and recognize subterfuge (which is largely what much of this eppy was about).

Steff
April 26th, 2011, 03:56 PM
I would think Helen would have her checked out. Just because she knows weather Will wears boxers or briefs - or goes commando. ;) It concerns me a bit that Will didn't remember her at all. :S

Of course doesn't everyone know what undergarments Will wears by now. hehe The boy does seem to lose his pants..... wait... how many times was it Will pantless compared to Robin? Got to go watch some Will Vision again. hehe

Don;t know if he is pantless in this particular one but the odds ar good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QBKk4qEJsE

Feast of the Muse
April 26th, 2011, 04:08 PM
Do you guys think there is any chance that abby is playing will. Like she is trying to infilitrate the sanctuary or something to that effect?

I dunno. Something was fishy about the whole thing. The whole twisty plot with the gang was unbelievable to me. They were 'diagnosed' as a loose band of thieves by Abby, but Helen and Kate seemed to talk about them like an established gang. Either she's just a bad actress (really bad) or she is just really ignorant. (Anyone remember the little accountant who wanted to investigate the X-files? Totally a clone.) Or yeah, she could be up to something. But I really think she just wants to be part of the Scooby Gang and is trying way too hard.

atlantis_babe34
April 26th, 2011, 10:05 PM
it was an okay episode.. not great but it did have its moments. Will is beginning to get on my nerves a bit, Abby... i got nothing lol, lack of Helen didn't worry me to much, did like the kate/ Declan/ Biggie converstaion tho.

"Better then Spontanous Pre Date Nookie?!"
"Yeeeessssssss"

loved Biggies response there, by far the best moment, plus Kate in all her get up gear made me giggle.

And also Abby talking about the make up date/ nookie ;)

overall i'd give it a 6/10.. not great but in my opinion there had been worse episodes

helenmagnus23
April 27th, 2011, 03:58 AM
I watched One Night yesterday i really enjoyed it ,it was done really well i loved the story and i love how Amanda done each of the scenes i melted when i saw the last scene of Helen and Will at the end it was so sweet and adorable i could watch it over and over :D

Great eps i got why there was more talk than action i noticed both Will and Abby reading eveyone in the room plus i'm guessing Will saw that with Abby being FBI she could handle strange situations plus being a behavor something i forgot he could see she could handle abnormal things ( thats what i think) bit of an x-files thing lol!

Seeing that last scene when Will comes in and Magnus is sleeping on the sofa Amanda looked so exhusted all that awesome work she was doing making usch an awesome eps:D

I cant wait for the next eps yay!:D

Celandine
April 27th, 2011, 06:20 AM
Basically, I was not buying the ep. The first scene had me shaking my head. Walking in an outdoor market fully dressed to the hilt? Yeah, they wouldn't be targets for mugging or pickpockets. Little did I know that was exactly to happen. :P

I'm sorry. This ep was just so poorly written. It was just not that very well thought out to make it believable.. I love sci fi but like a healthy dose of reality in what I read/watch. It makes the fantastical even more pronounced.

All in all, I could name many other scenes that I was sitting bored/incredulous through. So sad. I think it could have been a great ep if it had been tweaked just a bit more.

Loved the Declan, Kate and Biggie scenes though. It's the only thing that carried the ep. My favorite character in this one? Kate. Definitely. Love a woman of action and her stepping up the game made me think of Kali when Will went missing and she was adamant about going out and finding him.

Mack_1
April 27th, 2011, 08:26 AM
Sorry to any Will fans, but this has got to be the most boring episode of this show that I have seen in the 3 seasons. I started thinking that the move to Monday nights was just a cover for a very boring introduction to the Will Zimmerman show.

- Abby was annoying.
- Badass Kate could have wiped the floor with wanna-be badass gang lady (yes, I know - she was supposedly on the "good" side)
- 25 minutes into the episode before we saw any part that didn't include Will or Abby? I'll just pretend that part didn't exist.
- would have loved more Kate/Biggie/Declan coming to the rescue.

On the plus side:
- sleepy Magnus is adorable
- we got another patented Amanda crane shot!! (I love that as her signature)

^^ ITA

Got kind of tired of Abby and Will’s child-list bickering/arguing and all that time spend on them unnecessary ; and bad-chick kicking Will’s *ss got tired after the first hit.

It was a slow episode and did got better until almost the end…so please after next week’s episode(apparently another Will episode) NO MORE Will base episode’s ( Sorry base fans but the guy –although I think is a very good actor and plays “Will” fantastically – He can’t carry a whole episode on his shoulders)

jmho

Love Magnus appearances and the Sanctuary gang...i was wishing Kate would kick bad chick behind but it turn out she actually was one of the good guys.:vala:

The whole restaurant food been better than the alternative was just hilarious.:cameron:

NumberSix
April 27th, 2011, 11:03 AM
On the feeling of Abby .............. honestly if she had acted like that and I had a gun I would have shot her.



LOL :D I agree. I've tried to give her a chance but she just annoys me with her giggly act. If they want to give Will a love interest please give him someone less giggly and more intelligent. When Will said something about how she wasn't supposed to be there I remembered he said something like that after Clara Griffin died, and I was actually thinking "maybe Abby will die!"

Then did you see how easily Will takes out those 2 guys with like one punch to the gut? I haven't rewatched it but that's what it looked like. Was that way too easy and unbelievable or did I miss something like a secret weapon in his hands??

Also, as mentioned, not a good episode to try to entice new viewers with. Hope things improve with the next episode.

Bring back Tesla and Druitt.

Steff
April 27th, 2011, 11:07 AM
LOL :D I agree. I've tried to give her a chance but she just annoys me with her giggly act. If they want to give Will a love interest please give him someone less giggly and more intelligent. When Will said something about how she wasn't supposed to be there I remembered he said something like that after Clara Griffin died, and I was actually thinking "maybe Abby will die!"

Then did you see how easily Will takes out those 2 guys with like one punch to the gut? I haven't rewatched it but that's what it looked like. Was that way too easy and unbelievable or did I miss something like a secret weapon in his hands??

Also, as mentioned, not a good episode to try to entice new viewers with. Hope things improve with the next episode.

Bring back Tesla and Druitt.

The previous audience on Monday was a Vampire/Werewolf loving group. Being Human. Did they lose an opportunity to grab those people? How about a Tesla/Druitt/Henry episode? hum?

But Being Human was a very young cast. Maybe the youth aspect of "One Night" helped grab some attention.

slurredspeech
April 27th, 2011, 11:58 AM
I just... What on earth was this episode?

It made me feel sad and a little bit empty inside.

Mandysg1
April 27th, 2011, 12:46 PM
Like others have mentioned, I don't think Will's character is able to carry the show. In other bottle episodes it has been him and Helen, and Helen is such a strong character, that she could probably be paired with any character and the episode would be good. Sorry Will fans, but on his own, Will just doesn't cut it.

Skydiver
April 27th, 2011, 05:23 PM
will tends to be what the script needs him to be. LIke his - to me - ott hystrionics last week 'you hit me!!!!' rants, etc.

he gets beat up, gets to be the hero, plays foil to helen, etc. He's what the script needs him to be.

now, him taking down those two guys...if you look close i believe that he had a syringe in each hand, so he drugged them in the guy

Feast of the Muse
April 27th, 2011, 05:45 PM
<snippage>
Then did you see how easily Will takes out those 2 guys with like one punch to the gut? I haven't rewatched it but that's what it looked like. Was that way too easy and unbelievable or did I miss something like a secret weapon in his hands??


If I am not mistaken, he injected them with epi pens. You can see him opening them just before that. That's bad enough in the leg; I don't want to imagine in the gut. That would be a successful take-out because they wouldn't be back up for a while, either.

I think his character being relatively young and highly-educated for his age lends to him playing whatever the script calls for. He thinks he can do things even if he can't, and he'll jump into a fight because he's still in that "I'm young and invincible/stupid" stage that guys take forever to get out of. (Sorry to any guys reading that!)

That's my take on him, anyway. I like him well enough, but to me he is just another one of Helen's hired kids. I think Biggie often displays more intelligence than Will does in tense situations, but you'd expect good instincts from him, right?

Skydiver
April 27th, 2011, 06:03 PM
biggie also....well he's been with helen 50ish years. he's confident and secure...Will, even with all he's done, is a young man still proving himself...which can lead to him doing crazy things just so that he does them.

suse
April 27th, 2011, 06:24 PM
Dude is well into his 30s. Exactly when does he stop being a young man doing stupid stuff? :P

Skydiver
April 27th, 2011, 06:30 PM
he has a Y chromosome...don't think they ever stop

tis genetically unavoidable

KayLyne
April 27th, 2011, 06:31 PM
Dude is well into his 30s. Exactly when does he stop being a young man doing stupid stuff? :P
Why does that remind me of Tony from NCIS?! ;)

I'm still thinking they should have trimmed down the Will/Abby trying to analyze everyone & thinking stupid escape plans, and incorporated more of Kate/Biggie/Declan figuring out where Will/Abby were and how to rescue them. That would have made more sense.

EvenstarSRV
April 27th, 2011, 06:35 PM
biggie also....well he's been with helen 50ish years. he's confident and secure...Will, even with all he's done, is a young man still proving himself...which can lead to him doing crazy things just so that he does them.

I think in this case, there was also a degree of 'guy wanting to impress a girl' motivation behind Will's actions, esp the whole 'I'm number two at the Sanctuary' bit and getting affronted at Abby's theory that he was the wrong guy to kidnap.

I would have preferred to see more of Will and Abby putting their heads together and trying to out-psych the kidnappers as opposed to the bickering/bantering we got.

NumberSix
April 27th, 2011, 06:49 PM
If I am not mistaken, he injected them with epi pens. You can see him opening them just before that. That's bad enough in the leg; I don't want to imagine in the gut. That would be a successful take-out because they wouldn't be back up for a while, either.




and Skydiver: now, him taking down those two guys...if you look close i believe that he had a syringe in each hand, so he drugged them in the guy


Okay, that explains it. Thanks.


Steff: How about a Tesla/Druitt/Henry episode? hum?

Sounds great to me. :)

jckfan55
April 28th, 2011, 02:11 AM
I rewatched it. Still hated Abby. She was alternately smart and ditzy. And just plain annoying.
I did like Kate's description of Will "a matchstick with hair gel" :D
some cool camera moves.
Still needed a B story or something interesting in the first half.

Skydiver
April 28th, 2011, 04:07 AM
yeah, we needed something.

even if it was another short helen/henry scene with them arriving wherever they are, or something. 20+ minutes of will and abby bickering was just tedious

nebulan
April 28th, 2011, 08:47 AM
Why does that remind me of Tony from NCIS?! ;)

why does that give me an idea for a crossover picture?? hahaha! Tony = Will... Helen = Gibbs... Henry = McGee... teeheehee

Skydiver
April 28th, 2011, 08:50 AM
kate as Ziva?

Feast of the Muse
April 28th, 2011, 09:29 AM
Helen using the head slap. Yes please!!!

KayLyne
April 28th, 2011, 12:12 PM
I'm going to take a guess and say that the less-than-stellar reviews of this episode are a bit of a surprise to MAD and the rest of the gang.

In reading most of the comments, I see a few common factors for everyone's underwhelming response.

1. we've just come off the big Hollow Earth storyline, followed by the humorous, upbeat "hangover", and now it's a slower, mainly two-person episode - one of which isn't a main or semi-regular character.

2. While I'm guessing most people do enjoy the character of Will, it's largely within the realm of his interaction with everyone else.

3. there was too much Abby, in whom we've only seen very limited screen time so far and don't know much about her.

Personally, I would have probably been intrigued with the concept of this episode (bottle-type show with mainly one regular & a newbie) if it were any other character - Helen, Henry, Kate, Biggie, Tesla, John ... or just even a bunch of weird abnormals interacting with each other without a main character. (that'd be an interesting concept!)

MidwifeOnBoard
April 28th, 2011, 01:16 PM
Dude is well into his 30s. Exactly when does he stop being a young man doing stupid stuff? :P

A-Freakin-MEN. Sing it, sister.

I'm glad I am not alone in my opinion of this episode. Like everyone else, I thoroughly enjoyed that first Kate/Declan/Biggie scene. But the opening shot of Will & Abby walking through a street market and into a back alley all gussied up had me facepalming, and it went downhill from there.

I won't hold it agains MAD, though I'd rather have less Will next week and more, I dunno, Tesla? Declan? John? Kate? HELEN? I just hope a bug!man ep is interest-hodling enough after this week. Disapointing, but even the greatest shows have their clunkers...

Feast of the Muse
April 28th, 2011, 03:39 PM
From the trailer, the next episode looks look it might be called "Kill Will" :lol: Can we see Helen in a yellow track suit, please?

So here's my problem. Abby gets free by releasing the scorpion and then instead of notifying the Sanctuary and then being dumb and running back, she skips the whole calling in the cavalry bit and just runs back. Where the heck is her FBI training? She went to Quantico, she was taught these things, Sigmund and Anna Freud not withstanding. And as for Sigmund, where was Will's training when things got quiet in that alley? I can't believe they both just stopped paying attention to their surroundings as they left the market.

Forty-five minutes. That's how far we get before we lay eyes on Helen (of course that includes commercials). I have to say I do like that she is willing to let Will be in danger in order to save hundreds of innocent abnormals. I don't think Will would feel the same if it were her, though.

mandogater
April 28th, 2011, 09:08 PM
why does that give me an idea for a crossover picture?? hahaha! Tony = Will... Helen = Gibbs... Henry = McGee... teeheehee

I would love to read that!!

meredithchandler73
April 28th, 2011, 09:09 PM
I don't think I disliked this episode quite as much as many others did, but it certainly isn't one of the best or one of my favorites. Comparing it to Warriors (probably my least favorite episode of the whole series) - I think Warriors was worse. Even though I liked most of the scenes with Gregory Magnus, the bad stuff was just SOOOO bad. And there was no getting around how ridiculous Hulkified-Abornmal-Will looked in that episode. Yikes. Back to One Night: I don't mind Will or Abby (I prefer her as a love interest for Will than Clara - who I just never got into), but there was just too much of the two of them - especially the two of them bickering. And it really annoyed me that Abby didn't try to contact the Sanctuary before coming back.

Some people were wondering why the Powers That Be would use this episode as a "lure" to grab people for a new night. If I'm not mistaken, the head bad chick was in one or more of the Twilight movies or something. (I believe Amanda mentioned it before season 3 began - when talking about guest stars that would be coming.) I have never seen any of the Twilight movies, so I don't have any idea. I would certainly understand wanting to use a stand alone episode to try to bring new people into watching the show. If they had used an episode from the middle of the Hollow Earth arc, it would probably have been way too confusing.

I really wish Amanda had gotten a better episode to direct.

Skydiver
April 29th, 2011, 04:28 AM
they had no choice which episode was the 'lure to the new night' because they didn't know it was coming. That was a last minute change by skiffy. It just happened to be the episode that was airing when the decision was made

jckfan55
April 29th, 2011, 07:25 AM
I did catch an episode of ST:TNG last night & at least they seemed to be promoting Sanctuary pretty well.

KayLyne
April 29th, 2011, 05:04 PM
Tweeted from @SanctuarySeries:
"In tonite's episode, watch for a cool VFX shot that goes across the city and onto a rooftop - it's one of Amanda's faves!"

I believe that's what everyone was referring to as the "crane shot" and have been raving about as well!

Yes, we noticed. Yes, we love it too!

nebulan
April 29th, 2011, 06:41 PM
Helen using the head slap. Yes please!!!

here's a quick sketch I did (spoiler for being kinda off topic!)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/nebulan/miscThumbs/sanctuary/ncis.jpg

Mandysg1
April 29th, 2011, 07:42 PM
:lol: love how she still holds a cup of tea :D

RealmOfX
April 29th, 2011, 08:01 PM
Tweeted from @SanctuarySeries:
"In tonite's episode, watch for a cool VFX shot that goes across the city and onto a rooftop - it's one of Amanda's faves!"

I believe that's what everyone was referring to as the "crane shot" and have been raving about as well!

Yes, we noticed. Yes, we love it too!

Uh no, a crane shot is a physical one, it's shot from the top of a crane.

Rocky89
April 29th, 2011, 08:37 PM
Now that I've probably seen this episode, I gotta say this was a very well done and clever episode. Robin did a great job, and so did techno Tapping. :p

I like how it all got right to the point of the episode, how Will had to try and save the dude dying, but I was very surprised by the twists and turns the episode took, like how the boss girl wanted the dude to die, but was pretending to want him to live. I loved how Will was able to use his smarts to try and think of a way out of their, and still bind his time to make up a cure for the dude dying. I liked the chemistry between Will and Abby, and I'm glad they were still able to salvage the date. :p

Seeing the team back at the Sanctuary (even without moss Magnus) was still fun, and poor Will, they had to make fun of him being on a date. :p They did good tracking Will down, and even though Helen was only in 2 scenes, she was a delight to see. :) I think Amanda nailed being a director, she was great with Veritas, and despite the ratings being a monster, I think Amanda made this episode work, and so did the whole cast, especially Robin. :)

Oh, and I loved the ending scene with Helen and Will the end, their smirks were so cute. :p

Rocky89
April 29th, 2011, 09:06 PM
Yes, i shall go to fan hell but....underwhelming.

Parts were good, Kate and biggie and declan. There was an interesting twist with the slave ship, but too much of this felt forced to me. Warrior Chiclet was amazingly unthreatening, Abby was alarmingly annoying, she and will spent way too much time chit chatting and....it needed more of a B story. There was just no wow factor.

so....maybe it's a sign of what happens when you go from 13 - 20, deadlines and time constraints keep a person from polishing as much as maybe a script needed.


Yea I agree Sky, what an episode to use for the new night and trying to get more fans :(

The story was just not good, and no amount of great directing can save that. I'm sorry Amanda was given such a weak script to work with....I'm sorry to say Damian dropped the ball on this one. At least the preview for next week looked much better.


the kate, declan, biggie 'pre date nookie' was good. I can understand biggie not 'getting' her insinuation, but you'd think declan would.

and hey, there are 3 pretty little boxes that'll end up on a charity auction some day

sleepy helen was cute...and hey, she DOES have a weakness....jet lag and taking a nap (and dude, i woulda killed to take a nap today)

too bad Hangover didn't air tonight, i think that one was more interesting


*channeling Daniel* I miss Helen. *nods head*

Glad to know for AT's sake that she was directing, but I agree, too much Will and Abby, not enough of the team. I missed who wrote this, but you'd think there could have at least been more build-up sooner so they at least got some more screen time (and we got a break from Will).

I did very much enjoy Helen's voice drop at the end and the Magnus smile. And I think the camera opening on her sleeping was to make a point - AT wore herself out without even being on camera.

Aww. :( I think this episode was quite good. :) I need an episode to get me excited, to make me smile/laugh, get me thinking and make me squee, and this episode did that. :) By no means was it the BEST episode ever, but I don't think it was the worst either. :) It was a good story, and a good little stand alone episode, and even though the team was spread out, the ep still had that team element, and it felt good. :) And I haven't noticed any loss of quality from this season because of the 7 added episodes. :)

And yeah, sleeping Helen was cute. :p



:eek:

:eek:


amanda did a nice job directing! :)

oh, where was the crane shot?

:lol: Is that all you're gonna say about the episode?


I'm sorry...really I am...but I just laughed out really loud when I read that...least used character?? I was begining to wonder if they were going to rename the show with it's new day to the Will Zimmerman show. Again, I'm sorry. I'm sure you adore the character of Will and that's great.
I happen to adore Helen and Kate and Biggie and especially Tesla but I am now ever so slowly getting a wee bit bored with Will. No offense intended to either you or Robin Dunne. :)

:lol: You sound like Sally there, Chelle. :p


So would it be fair to say that this is up there with "Warriors" as one of Sanctuary's worst eps? We're talking poor storyline right?
Poor Sanctuary team...I wonder what they must be thinking of these reviews thus far...I'm really not looking forward to next weeks ep...looks like another Will centered story. :( Please bring back Helen and the abnormals she chases...and Tesla and John...bring back the yummy goodness! :)

Well, Sally-- I mean, Chelle, I think that even though this wasn't the strongest or best episode ever, it did give us a good story, and we saw the team stop the bad guys after months of trying to track them down. :) And next week looks good. ;)


Well let me jump on the bandwagon saying this was one of the least 'interesting' episodes of the series but honestly every series has them. I watched both airings and they were interesting but not my favorites by any means.

Amanda did a fantastic job on directing hands down, I loved some of the shots and honestly before this show I never paid attention to stuff like that, but she did fantastic. Also let me say as well that I don't have Will, in fact he's quite fascinating but only when he's interacting with others, he's portrayed like Daniel in SG1 a little geeky which means playing in just his mind or his world is not really for most of us aka viewers.

On the feeling of Abby I have to say she's not twisting my chain yet, kind of goofy boring and honestly if she had acted like that and I had a gun I would have shot her.

The Kate/Declan/Biggie scenes were fantastic and I liked the whole Alfredo reference. This was definitely a filler episode you could tell and it accomplished what it HAD to but it did not surpass the bar for me.

Next week's episode though I'm REALLY looking forward to.

Very well said. :)

Celandine
April 30th, 2011, 07:57 AM
A-Freakin-MEN. Sing it, sister.

I'm glad I am not alone in my opinion of this episode. Like everyone else, I thoroughly enjoyed that first Kate/Declan/Biggie scene. But the opening shot of Will & Abby walking through a street market and into a back alley all gussied up had me facepalming, and it went downhill from there.

I won't hold it agains MAD, though I'd rather have less Will next week and more, I dunno, Tesla? Declan? John? Kate? HELEN? I just hope a bug!man ep is interest-hodling enough after this week. Disapointing, but even the greatest shows have their clunkers...

Glad I wasn't the only one thinking the same exact thing. Seriously? All decked out, mingling amongst the street market people in normal attire was just an incident waiting to happen.

One other thing I laughed/shook my head sadly about was the inflated ego Will seems to have acquired since joining the Sanctuary. Like, dude. You were nothing before you knew Helen. Let's not forget that.

EH-T
April 30th, 2011, 08:14 AM
I am with the majority in not particularly liking this show.

Let's start with some good things. I agree AT did a good job with a less-than-exciting episode. She did that with her Stargate ep as well but this one was worse. I agree on the very cool shots, the crane shot, the focus to the gun after what's-her-name was shot and the bag-over-the head shot. But very little action to work with.

The scene with Kate/Biggie/Declan was also good but if they want to use Declan on a semi-regular basis, they really need to fit him in better. He's head of the London Sanctuary but he just pops in occasionally with no explanation???

I agree the character analysis by Will and Abbey was their strong point.

While I am a fan of all the actors/characters, the main reason I have watched Sanctuary from day 1 is AT and her character. Therefore any episode with virtually no Helen is probably not going to be of as much interest to me.

I agree with the comments about Will/Abby walking down a dark alley to get to the restaurant. Huh?

I didn't find the male baddie very frightening.

What a great coincidence that Will had just been involved with a similar problem so he knew the remedy from memory. :rolleyes:

While I liked Abby when first introduced, I did not like her here. Is she not an intelligent woman who is an FBI agent? That makes me think Dana Scully, not Abby-giggle-girl. Too much like Clara. Please DK, you have written one of the best female characters in the history of TV (Helen), let's have more of that and less bimbo. I realise she is a behavioural expert but surely she would have some FBI training so she is not the damsel in distress in this situation. I am in complete ageement with the head scratching move of Abbey getting away and not calling either the Sanctuary or the FBI. Wha???

Also, can we please write Will and a girl on a date as mature adults not teenagers?

Too much repetition in the episode, the feeble attempts to escape, the threats of death, etc.

Sorry to say not one I will bother to watch again when it repeats.

MidwifeOnBoard
April 30th, 2011, 08:23 AM
Glad I wasn't the only one thinking the same exact thing. Seriously? All decked out, mingling amongst the street market people in normal attire was just an incident waiting to happen.

One other thing I laughed/shook my head sadly about was the inflated ego Will seems to have acquired since joining the Sanctuary. Like, dude. You were nothing before you knew Helen. Let's not forget that.

Heh. Yup.


I am with the majority in not particularly liking this show.

1. Let's start with some good things. I agree AT did a good job with a less-than-exciting episode. She did that with her Stargate ep as well but this one was worse. I agree on the very cool shots, the crane shot, the focus to the gun after what's-her-name was shot and the bag-over-the head shot. But very little action to work with.

2. The scene with Kate/Biggie/Declan was also good but if they want to use Declan on a semi-regular basis, they really need to fit him in better. He's head of the London Sanctuary but he just pops in occasionally with no explanation???

I agree the character analysis by Will and Abbey was their strong point.

While I am a fan of all the actors/characters, the main reason I have watched Sanctuary from day 1 is AT and her character. Therefore any episode with virtually no Helen is probably not going to be of as much interest to me.

I agree with the comments about Will/Abby walking down a dark alley to get to the restaurant. Huh?

3. I didn't find the male baddie very frightening.

What a great coincidence that Will had just been involved with a similar problem so he knew the remedy from memory. :rolleyes:

While I liked Abby when first introduced, I did not like her here. Is she not an intelligent woman who is an FBI agent? That makes me think Dana Scully, not Abby-giggle-girl. Too much like Clara. Please DK, you have written one of the best female characters in the history of TV (Helen), let's have more of that and less bimbo. I realise she is a behavioural expert but surely she would have some FBI training so she is not the damsel in distress in this situation. I am in complete ageement with the head scratching move of Abbey getting away and not calling either the Sanctuary or the FBI. Wha???

4. Also, can we please write Will and a girl on a date as mature adults not teenagers?

Too much repetition in the episode, the feeble attempts to escape, the threats of death, etc.

Sorry to say not one I will bother to watch again when it repeats.

1. Oh yes. Even the world's greatest directing can't redeem a weak script. I really admire Damian's writing but think he totally dropped the ball on this one.

2. That was my reaction as well. My brain went, "Hai Declan. SO glad to see you, but WTF are you doing here?"

3. I didn't find any of the baddies very frightening. And "The Vendetta Gang?" I LOL'd at the name. Rly???

4. A. MEN. That is one of my biggest gripes with how Will is written/portrayed. He's a grown man in his mid thirties, with a PhD or MD depending on the episode you watch, who is an EXPERT in behavioral psychology. I can literally count on one hand the number of times I've watched this show and seen him act like a grownup and not an adolescent. MHO, of course.

Skydiver
April 30th, 2011, 08:35 AM
I too , when they were walking I was thinking 'dressed up in a dark alley. This never ends well.'
Very cliche.

JanSam
April 30th, 2011, 09:07 AM
Umm yeah everything EhT said except I wasn't impressed with Abby when she was first introduced and this episode increased my dislike of her and it is mainly because...

Is she not an intelligent woman who is an FBI agent? Please DK, you have written one of the best female characters in the history of TV (Helen), let's have more of that and less bimbo.

I will try to watch again only because I was rolling my eyes so much I couldn't bare to watch for any cool AT's directing shots the first time.

Feast of the Muse
April 30th, 2011, 09:14 AM
here's a quick sketch I did (spoiler for being kinda off topic!)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/nebulan/miscThumbs/sanctuary/ncis.jpg

Also, since Henry would be Abby, that would be Helen bringing him caffeine and kissing him on the cheek occasionally. I love that they both have the same surrogate parent dynamic. So sweet!


Uh no, a crane shot is a physical one, it's shot from the top of a crane.

Actually wasn't it a crane shot? They pulled up and out from the baddie camp and then back between and behind Kate and whoever else was up there... think I need to watch that bit again. Yes on the CGI in the middle, but you'd need a crane to shoot it, I think. I was wrong before, though, could happen again. :P

nebulan
April 30th, 2011, 09:33 AM
Also, since Henry would be Abby, that would be Helen bringing him caffeine and kissing him on the cheek occasionally. I love that they both have the same surrogate parent dynamic. So sweet!

My brain put Henry as McGee actually... which made me giggle because the next best fit for Abby would be Tesla! hahah

KayLyne
April 30th, 2011, 02:39 PM
Actually wasn't it a crane shot? They pulled up and out from the baddie camp and then back between and behind Kate and whoever else was up there... think I need to watch that bit again. Yes on the CGI in the middle, but you'd need a crane to shoot it, I think. I was wrong before, though, could happen again. :P

Yeah, that's what I was thinking to begin with - that it was a practical (AT signature) crane shot in which VFX morphed into and out of making it look real cool. Whatever it was, it ended up being my favorite shot - and one of the only highlights of the eppy.

I guess it's quite sad when I'm more intrigued by watching how the director is shooting something than the actual story itself.

EH-T
April 30th, 2011, 03:27 PM
A little something to ease the sting of the reviews for One Night. We have an increased number of episodes this year and this is the only clunker that I can recall from season 3. That's a pretty good batting average.

Chelle DB
April 30th, 2011, 08:44 PM
I am with the majority in not particularly liking this show.
Let's start with some good things. I agree AT did a good job with a less-than-exciting episode. She did that with her Stargate ep as well but this one was worse. I agree on the very cool shots, the crane shot, the focus to the gun after what's-her-name was shot and the bag-over-the head shot. But very little action to work with.
The scene with Kate/Biggie/Declan was also good but if they want to use Declan on a semi-regular basis, they really need to fit him in better. He's head of the London Sanctuary but he just pops in occasionally with no explanation???
I agree the character analysis by Will and Abbey was their strong point.
While I am a fan of all the actors/characters, the main reason I have watched Sanctuary from day 1 is AT and her character. Therefore any episode with virtually no Helen is probably not going to be of as much interest to me.
:( Well I guess the only way is up now...right? :P
I agree with everything you just noted...but I think along with a few others here, I'm a little confused as to what exactly is the crane shot...I'm thinking it's the shot in the warehouse when Will has the gun on the "Vendetta's"...I don't count the special effects shot as one. :o
But you definitely hit the nail on the head...an episode with virtually no Helen doesn't hold a lot of interest...there needs to be a better balance.

I agree with the comments about Will/Abby walking down a dark alley to get to the restaurant. Huh?
Well the thing with that scene was that initially it looked as though they were walking through Chinatown...which here in Melbourne is pretty much in a long dark alley...but they were on their way to an exclusive Italian restaurant not a small quiet Asian restaurant hidden in a dark alley. So the dressing up kinda made sense but it just seemed too corny & predictable as to what the outcome would be.

I didn't find the male baddie very frightening.
What a great coincidence that Will had just been involved with a similar problem so he knew the remedy from memory. :rolleyes:
While I liked Abby when first introduced, I did not like her here. Is she not an intelligent woman who is an FBI agent? That makes me think Dana Scully, not Abby-giggle-girl. Too much like Clara. Please DK, you have written one of the best female characters in the history of TV (Helen), let's have more of that and less bimbo. I realise she is a behavioural expert but surely she would have some FBI training so she is not the damsel in distress in this situation. I am in complete ageement with the head scratching move of Abbey getting away and not calling either the Sanctuary or the FBI. Wha???
:indeed:

Also, can we please write Will and a girl on a date as mature adults not teenagers?
:lol: Will act as a mature adult?? Not putting too much pressure on Robin now are we EH-T?? :P

Too much repetition in the episode, the feeble attempts to escape, the threats of death, etc.
Sorry to say not one I will bother to watch again when it repeats.
I don't know if I can pinpoint one thing in this ep that turned me off coz there were just too many things that had me shaking my head. I actually like Abbey...a bit ditsy but still she's kinda likable. But I'm over Will centered eps. Love the character and the actor but I'm over it...and the sad thing is, looks like next week is going to be another Will ep...argh. I want more Helen centered eps...I mean really centered like Breach was....but not quite as violent. :)
I hated Warriors because of the fight ring...but this ep I think will be on par if not at the bottom of the ladder for me. :(
The gang was really lame. You're right EH-T...the bad guy wasn't intimidating at all. The bad chick was even less intimidating.
I'm looking forward to Out of the Blue...IIRC, I think this one is an emotional one for Helen.

Klenotka
May 1st, 2011, 06:47 AM
I love Will but this episode was weak. Mainly because Sanctuary is the strongest when the whole team works together. Will is my most favorite, along with Henry and Kate and I think this episode would have worked much better if it was Kate or Henry in danger with him.
Bring a stranger, especially that annyoing "I am afraid of the needles" whimpy girl, didn´t make me worried about them at all. I just wished her to die already. How can anyone like that work for FBI? Aren´t they like intelligent, resourseful etc? I think that Will was OOC in some places, especially that behaviour where he tried to speak of himself as "the second most fitting person to do it after Magnus". It wasn´t in character, I think. He would have never said that. Unless he wanted to look better for Abby, but it wouldn´t make sense because, again, she didn´t do much to have right to critizise him in any way.

Another thing - why was Declan there? Isn´t he a boss of London Sanctuary? Why was he there instead of Henry? I never really liked him and he was another distracting element to the usual team work.
Kate and her Italian accent was priceless.

Robin did his best but I am afraid even the writing was weak, it was repetative (they kept trying to escape) full of clichés (shockingly, that bad girl wasn´t bad at all but the actress was bad or that Abby was infected so Will had to save her...). I also didn´t like their reaction to "how Will makes an antidote", especially from Kate who probably wouldn´t be much better than him.

I think good things were the brief team moments between Kate and Biggie (again, where the hell was Henry?), Robin Dunne´s attempts to make the best from a weak script (and zero chemistry between him and that actress whose name I don´t really know), and, an absence of Magnus. I am probably the only one among Sanctuary fans who isn´t her fan (she is my least favorite character, honestly).

Skydiver
May 1st, 2011, 08:35 AM
i'm gonna wonder if declan was there in response to the Hangover happenings....helen said she told him things were going down, well a simple line about him jumping on a plane and this episode taking place 48 hours or so after hangover, would explain why declan was there

Kilgharrah
May 1st, 2011, 09:47 AM
i'm gonna wonder if declan was there in response to the Hangover happenings....helen said she told him things were going down, well a simple line about him jumping on a plane and this episode taking place 48 hours or so after hangover, would explain why declan was there
He was there because Helen was away. It seems she couldn't trust Bigguy and Kate with the sanctuary after what happened in Hangover so he was there to take care of everything until she was back. Or at least that's what I think.

Klenotka
May 1st, 2011, 10:15 AM
After 150 + years, I think something like this probably happened before and apparently it wasn´t such a big deal, judging from her behaviour. Maybe the simple explanation would be that Ryan wasn´t available for some reason so they brought the character of Declan to take his place for one episode? T
I just missed the team dynamic in this episode and they should focus more on the team episodes (when they decide to do a stand-alone episode). That´s why Hangover worked so well.
Or at least introduce "Will´s date" in previous episodes and not in two minutes in the beginning of one and only episode as they did here.

Feast of the Muse
May 1st, 2011, 11:00 AM
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Or at least introduce "Will´s date" in previous episodes and not in two minutes in the beginning of one and only episode as they did here.

We have met Abby before - twice, I think. She was at Quantico (or some academic institution) with Will, I believe. There was something about lab partners, and that he didn't remember her. I remember her coming through the front door of the Sanctuary. She helped them work on something, but didn't get to know what was really going on. She has always been attracted to Will, I think, and she was also not bothered by the odd things that happened. I actually thought she was going to turn out to be a better character than she has.

Kilgharrah
May 1st, 2011, 01:10 PM
We have met Abby before - twice, I think. She was at Quantico (or some academic institution) with Will, I believe. There was something about lab partners, and that he didn't remember her. I remember her coming through the front door of the Sanctuary. She helped them work on something, but didn't get to know what was really going on. She has always been attracted to Will, I think, and she was also not bothered by the odd things that happened. I actually thought she was going to turn out to be a better character than she has.
If you are referring to the one that was introduced in "Vigilante", then ur not right. It's not the same person. I guess it's the same occupation, but not the same person and I preferred the one in "Vigilante". She was... less annoying.
Watch "Vigilante" again and you'll see.

JanSam
May 1st, 2011, 01:36 PM
It was the same actress that played the character of Abby Corigan in Vigilante and One Night; Pascale Hutton.

xgfan
May 1st, 2011, 02:24 PM
again, where the hell was Henry?
Henry was with Helen. On the video conference she says "Henry and I won't be back until tomorrow"

jckfan55
May 1st, 2011, 02:47 PM
Yeah, that's what I was thinking to begin with - that it was a practical (AT signature) crane shot in which VFX morphed into and out of making it look real cool. Whatever it was, it ended up being my favorite shot - and one of the only highlights of the eppy.


Yes that was a cool shot. There was also a cool one that came off the bad guys overlooking Will & giggle girl and then whipped down to them quickly.

jckfan55
May 1st, 2011, 02:49 PM
I think Declan might have been there re: something to do with the "ghost ship?" I wondered if the ghost ship was something that was referred to earlier that I forgot or if this ep was out of order? Or if they just dropped it in that way on purpose?

And yes, Vendetta gang was possibly the worst name for a gang ever. Worse than Jimmy's gang. :D

Klenotka
May 1st, 2011, 03:14 PM
Henry was with Helen. On the video conference she says "Henry and I won't be back until tomorrow"

Oh, I missed that! Thanks! English is not my first language so I miss something here and there. And the episode was boring so I didn´t pay much attention ;)

xgfan
May 1st, 2011, 03:27 PM
You're welcome :)
English isn't my first language either and I didn't like the episode either. But I paid attention to the scenes with Helen :D

Klenotka
May 1st, 2011, 04:02 PM
Well, I didn´t pay attention to her scenes at all because I don´t really like her that much so I was kinda glad she was missing in this episode (because Amanda was directing it). But episodes with just her and Will are great ;)

Feast of the Muse
May 1st, 2011, 06:58 PM
If you are referring to the one that was introduced in "Vigilante", then ur not right. It's not the same person. I guess it's the same occupation, but not the same person and I preferred the one in "Vigilante". She was... less annoying.
Watch "Vigilante" again and you'll see.

Nope, they are indeed the same person. The wikia does not lie (http://sanctuary.wikia.com/wiki/Abby_Corigan). But that does speak to the continuity of her character, if you don't even recognize her the second time. She did come across much more confident, or at least just not helpless, the first time we saw her.

Skydiver
May 1st, 2011, 07:06 PM
i think abby was helpless in One Night for the same reason will was distinctly snotty in Hangover....the script said for them to be so

Kilgharrah
May 2nd, 2011, 01:30 AM
Nope, they are indeed the same person. The wikia does not lie (http://sanctuary.wikia.com/wiki/Abby_Corigan). But that does speak to the continuity of her character, if you don't even recognize her the second time. She did come across much more confident, or at least just not helpless, the first time we saw her.
You're right.
I looked everywhere and she is the same person. It's strange I didn't recognize her. She certainly looks different. I don't know what changed, but I liked her in "Vigilante". They changed something in the character description and she certainly looked hotter in "Vigilante".

Klenotka
May 2nd, 2011, 02:51 AM
Isn´t she the one whose buttons Tesla unbuttoned with his power? :)

helenmagnus23
May 2nd, 2011, 03:40 AM
Isn´t she the one whose buttons Tesla unbuttoned with his power? :)

Yeah Tesla was unbuttoning her shirt :)

I really liked this eps it has it's faults but i think it was a good eps and watching it again i got the inpression Abby had first date jitters she was really nervis and it showed and i think in regards to her work she could handle the abnormal side of things but she was very nervis looking comapred to other eps we saw her in but that was business not pleasure.

She was more relaxed then ,i loved how Amanda directed this eps it was done very well and i love all the differant shots she used it melded well she's amazing and we love her:D

Over all i loved this eps again it had it's faults in areas but it also had it's strengths as well and Amanda done an amazing job with this eps i adore the last scene between Helen and Will it was adorable and i loved it.

Awesome work Amanda!:D Xo

helenmagnus23
May 2nd, 2011, 03:43 AM
Isn´t she the one whose buttons Tesla unbuttoned with his power? :)

Yeah she's the one Tesla was unbuttoning her shirt :)

I really liked this eps it has it's faults but i think it was a good eps and watching it again i got the inpression Abby had first date jitters she was really nervis and it showed and i think in regards to her work she could handle the abnormal side of things but she was very nervis looking comapred to other eps we saw her in but that was business not pleasure.

She was more relaxed then ,i loved how Amanda directed this eps it was done very well and i love all the differant shots she used it melded well she's amazing and we love her:D

Over all i loved this eps again it had it's faults in areas but it also had it's strengths as well and Amanda done an amazing job with this eps i adore the last scene between Helen and Will it was adorable and i loved it.

Awesome work Amanda!:D Xo

helenmagnus23
May 2nd, 2011, 03:44 AM
Sorry for the double post everyone!

Spimman
May 2nd, 2011, 06:47 AM
Not my favorite episode so Sanctuary, but is it just me or did anyone else really want to eat at Alfredo's? That place must be awesome of someone as long lived and well traveled as Helen calls it her favorite! :p

suse
May 2nd, 2011, 10:49 AM
:P Perhaps it's her favorite in the area.

:) New eppy tonight! :D

Spimman
May 2nd, 2011, 11:34 AM
:) New eppy tonight! :D

*Forces a mental note so I don't forget like last Monday*

Klenotka
May 2nd, 2011, 01:09 PM
:) New eppy tonight! :D

I will see it tomorrow but I can´t wait. I love Will but I keep thinking - poor Will!

EH-T
May 2nd, 2011, 02:50 PM
Re: all the speculation why Declan was there. There could be any number of reasons, I think the point most people were making was we were not given any explanation and it is a bit odd just having him show up without an explanantion. I'm sure the real reason is that RR couldn't be there and they like working with RL so this was an opportunity to do so.

Skydiver
May 4th, 2011, 10:04 AM
Couple of observations

Bad guys have coffee grinders in their hideouts?

And with just minutes to the ship docking Horatio took time to change into a new suit.

Matt G
June 14th, 2011, 03:30 PM
1. Was surprised the focus was so much on Will and Abby, didn't know Amanda was directing.

2. At one point wondered whether Helen was testing Will.

3. Abby...people don't always act rationally.

4. Will's older than I thought if you guys are right, he doesn't look or act that old...

Bit of a meh ep.

jckfan55
July 18th, 2011, 10:56 AM
I rewatched it. Not as bad as I may have at first thought, but I still hate Abby and that negatively colored the whole episode for me. Will could do so much better.

selene0789
August 30th, 2011, 07:43 PM
Horrible dialogue. I'd watched interviews where AT was raving about directing Tinsel Korey, so I was surprised when the shethug's character ended up being nothing more than a "fix him or I'll kill you". Seriously. That's all she said.

But I've said this before in other places, but I'll say it again-- the poor dialogue and poor plot gave me ample opportunity to notice the cool camera angles that AT likes to use. :D Still, this ep was a let down.

suse
August 31st, 2011, 02:44 PM
Let down doesn't begin to describe.

Skydiver
September 1st, 2011, 04:23 AM
I"m sorry, the she-thug was such a cliche and - to me - her acting seemed as wooden as a baseball bat. It's like she was working so hard to appear tough that there was no emotion or empathy or such.

it was just so bad and so predictable, and she was a good part of the 'badness' because she was so very cliche

jckfan55
September 3rd, 2011, 09:46 AM
But I've said this before in other places, but I'll say it again-- the poor dialogue and poor plot gave me ample opportunity to notice the cool camera angles that AT likes to use. :D Still, this ep was a let down.
that was just about the only aspect that kept me interested. When you're actually hoping Will's girlfriend will die, that's not a good sign. :eek: