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April 18th, 2011, 06:11 AM
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 107</FONT>
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MattSilver 3k
May 29th, 2011, 09:52 PM
I watched it a week ago, so I've had time to process/fanboy over it all on my lonesome, so this week, I'm going to sum up my opinions in a new way... Presenting... The King's Landing Chronicle!


The King's Landing Chronicle: Bringing You All The News Of Westeros

A Nation In Mourning: King Robert, Dead.

King Robert, first of his name, the reagent protector of the Seven Kingdoms, died this morning after returning from a hunting expedition in the Kingswood. His party came up against a vicious boar, who gored King Robert at the same time his Grace skewered the beast, the two of them both suffering mortal wounds. The King was returned home, said goodbye to his family, and died peacefully in his sleep. His son, Joffrey Baratheon, is expected to take the Iron Throne in his father's wake.

For more information, including the time and date for the royal feast of boar, see Page 2. For commentaries on King Robert's time as King, see pages 4-6 - read as one anonymous critic had this to say: "So, are we going to put the boar in the Kingsguard now? Maybe marry his sister off to the new King? I have to wonder..."


SKIRMISH IN THE CASTLE: Lord Eddard Stark, Traitor?
An anonymous City Watchman has just delivered us shocking news! Lord Eddard Stark, Hand of The King, just participated in a confrontation with the new King, Joffrey Baratheon, in the royal court, and it ended with blood! "We had to kill his men," the City Watchman reveals. "It had to be done!"

Lord Eddard Stark has not been sighted since the confrontation, and is expected to be imprisoned somewhere, awaiting trial. For more information, go to Page 3.

Attacks Continue On Tully Lands! See Page 8 for details.

Ladies! This week's personality quiz, featuring the Stark heiresses! Are you an Arya or a Sansa? Take this week's quiz to find out, on page 9!

Foreign News: A khalsaar was seen leaving Vaes Dothrak just this morning, a raven tells us. The Khal, Drogo, was seen heading the pack, and they were headed, curiously, west. The Khal's new wife, rumoured to be Daenarys Targaryen, the daughter of the former Mad King, was seen riding a beautiful mare with a naked man tied to its backside... See Page 7 for details.

A Touch Of The Lighter Side? Lords and Ladies, read our newest speculation on the sexuality of several of your favourite high Lords. This week: Lord Renly Baratheon. To Page 10!

Where Are They Now? This week we talk about Theon Greyjoy, son of the failed rebel Lord Balon Greyjoy. One newest addition to the western whorehouse spills all about the Winterfell's unwanted ward! "He gets really soft and limp immediately after he's done," the whore, Roz, reveals. "It's embarrassing for him, I know."


I had too much fun doing that. :D

Cold Fuzz
May 29th, 2011, 10:29 PM
I watched it a week ago, so I've had time to process/fanboy over it all on my lonesome, so this week, I'm going to sum up my opinions in a new way... Presenting... The King's Landing Chronicle!


The King's Landing Chronicle: Bringing You All The News Of Westeros

A Nation In Mourning: King Robert, Dead.

King Robert, first of his name, the reagent protector of the Seven Kingdoms, died this morning after returning from a hunting expedition in the Kingswood. His party came up against a vicious boar, who gored King Robert at the same time his Grace skewered the beast, the two of them both suffering mortal wounds. The King was returned home, said goodbye to his family, and died peacefully in his sleep. His son, Joffrey Baratheon, is expected to take the Iron Throne in his father's wake.

For more information, including the time and date for the royal feast of boar, see Page 2. For commentaries on King Robert's time as King, see pages 4-6 - read as one anonymous critic had this to say: "So, are we going to put the boar in the Kingsguard now? Maybe marry his sister off to the new King? I have to wonder..."


SKIRMISH IN THE CASTLE: Lord Eddard Stark, Traitor?
An anonymous City Watchman has just delivered us shocking news! Lord Eddard Stark, Hand of The King, just participated in a confrontation with the new King, Joffrey Baratheon, in the royal court, and it ended with blood! "We had to kill his men," the City Watchman reveals. "It had to be done!"

Lord Eddard Stark has not been sighted since the confrontation, and is expected to be imprisoned somewhere, awaiting trial. For more information, go to Page 3.

Attacks Continue On Tully Lands! See Page 8 for details.

Ladies! This week's personality quiz, featuring the Stark heiresses! Are you an Arya or a Sansa? Take this week's quiz to find out, on page 9!

Foreign News: A khalsaar was seen leaving Vaes Dothrak just this morning, a raven tells us. The Khal, Drogo, was seen heading the pack, and they were headed, curiously, west. The Khal's new wife, rumoured to be Daenarys Targaryen, the daughter of the former Mad King, was seen riding a beautiful mare with a naked man tied to its backside... See Page 7 for details.

A Touch Of The Lighter Side? Lords and Ladies, read our newest speculation on the sexuality of several of your favourite high Lords. This week: Lord Renly Baratheon. To Page 10!

Where Are They Now? This week we talk about Theon Greyjoy, son of the failed rebel Lord Balon Greyjoy. One newest addition to the western whorehouse spills all about the Winterfell's unwanted ward! "He gets really soft and limp immediately after he's done," the whore, Roz, reveals. "It's embarrassing for him, I know."


I had too much fun doing that. :D

:lol: My God I was ROFLMAO about Theon. Someone who had watched the episode with me--a woman--said something about that sex scene with Roz that echoed your words. She said, "Well that's definitely comes off as fake. Men don't get limp that quickly after sex." She then shot me a very weird look.

As she and I don't have a romantic relationship, it got really awkward after that.

MattSilver 3k
May 29th, 2011, 10:43 PM
:lol: My God I was ROFLMAO about Theon. Someone who had watched the episode with me--a woman--said something about that sex scene with Roz that echoed your words. She said, "Well that's definitely comes off as fake. Men don't get limp that quickly after sex." She then shot me a very weird look.

As she and I don't have a romantic relationship, it got really awkward after that.

Ahahaha. Classic.

gotthammer
May 30th, 2011, 12:17 AM
Stuff I liked:
- The Lannister camp (hmm. still no tabards w/ heraldry? I like Jaime's Lannister armour, tho'...it is more ornate than the regular 'samurai lannister' sets, right?)
- Ooh. Tywin. :D
- Littlefinger :D (ok, the 2 girls doing stuff was a bit over-the-top, but I did like the conversation there...as well as his role later in the episode :D "I'm not going to fight them. I'm going to **** them." I'm definitely liking the character more in the series than in the books)
- Osha's conversation w/ the Maester
- More Jon & Sam (the short discussion and the oath at the weirwood)
- Khal Drogo's speech :D

The Mighty 6 platoon
May 30th, 2011, 04:57 AM
Also sorts of win this week, as usual. Lesbians, shocking yet inevitable betrayals, more deaths, Drogo making epic speeches, but most importantly Charles Dance as Tywin. He is just perfect casting.

chrono trigger
May 30th, 2011, 06:02 AM
fantastic episode and the ending was gripping was usual (i seriously think this show has the best endings to episodes) but i have a question for the book readers was the scene with littlefinger and the two girls in the book or was it added to the series?

The Mighty 6 platoon
May 30th, 2011, 06:09 AM
fantastic episode and the ending was gripping was usual (i seriously think this show has the best endings to episodes) but i have a question for the book readers was the scene with littlefinger and the two girls in the book or was it added to the series?

It was added. It didn't seem out of place to me, (the books themselves are full of explicit sex scenes) and it was necessary for exposition. Because we can't hear the characters internal thoughts as in the book, it was a way of showing his motivations in betraying Ned Stark. It is also like many other scenes in the series, very symbolic. He's getting two people to screw each other while he directs, just as he's getting the various noble houses to screw each other over while he profits.

VampyreWraith
May 30th, 2011, 06:26 AM
I loved...
-The scene with Jamie and his father. Jamie's a good guy(basically), and his father was kind of scary talking while butchering that animal lol.
- Cersei's scene with Ned. I like Cersei, I feel bad for her. She's done(and still does) bad things, but she's done what she's needed to for her children, and in order to survive and get ahead in the world that she's in.
- Jon and Sam, and the conversation they had after Jon finds out he was chosen to be a steward, and not a ranger. Sam is great and I love his friendship with Jon.
- Drogo's speech; Jason Momoa did a great job.
- Littlefinger betraying Ned. I felt bad for Ned; he's a nice, honorable guy(too honorable in a way), but he really was too trusting, and that made him kind of weak (especially for the position he was in). He wasn't cut out for the politics of King's Landing, and he knew that, but he couldn't say no to his King, so he was put in a bad position of having to choose between the honorable thing, and probably what would have been the smarter thing to do for a man in his position.

chrono trigger
May 30th, 2011, 10:28 AM
It was added. It didn't seem out of place to me, (the books themselves are full of explicit sex scenes) and it was necessary for exposition. Because we can't hear the characters internal thoughts as in the book, it was a way of showing his motivations in betraying Ned Stark. It is also like many other scenes in the series, very symbolic. He's getting two people to screw each other while he directs, just as he's getting the various noble houses to screw each other over while he profits.

thanks for telling me:)

TOIVA
May 30th, 2011, 11:09 AM
I really wouldn't want to be one of Ned's men. They don't get to live long...

The Mighty 6 platoon
May 30th, 2011, 11:19 AM
I really wouldn't want to be one of Ned's men. They don't get to live long...

Yeah, I wonder whether they're wearing red shirts under their armour. :P

gotthammer
May 30th, 2011, 03:00 PM
Yeah, I wonder whether they're wearing red shirts under their armour. :P

Hehehe, I guess that's the same colour that Ned wears under his armour, too, eh? :D

The Mighty 6 platoon
May 30th, 2011, 03:09 PM
Hehehe, I guess that's the same colour that Ned wears under his armour, too, eh? :D

To be honest, at the rate the books and now the series kills off characters, all of them seem to be wearing red undershirts. :P I mean we're 7 eps in, and already 1 recurring character and 2 major characters are dead.

gotthammer
May 30th, 2011, 04:23 PM
So who wears command yellow?!? :eek:

:D

Shylodog
May 31st, 2011, 10:30 AM
So who wears command yellow?!? :eek:

:D

Joffrey? :S

Petra
May 31st, 2011, 11:28 AM
I've just finished watching. All I have to say at the moment is: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why oh why do I have to wait a whole week to see what happens next?! It's so unfair. There should be a law or something against ending episodes like that!

;)

The Mighty 6 platoon
May 31st, 2011, 02:14 PM
I've just finished watching. All I have to say at the moment is: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why oh why do I have to wait a whole week to see what happens next?! It's so unfair. There should be a law or something against ending episodes like that!

;)
And you think that's bad, wait till we get to the end of the season. There will be agony for some people. :D

dragongirl
May 31st, 2011, 03:31 PM
Some? I know what is gonna happen in the eps and I am going insane between eps as it is :P.

gotthammer
May 31st, 2011, 05:54 PM
And you think that's bad, wait till we get to the end of the season. There will be agony for some people. :D

Hehehe. An understatement, if ever I saw one. :D

The Mighty 6 platoon
June 1st, 2011, 03:49 AM
Hehehe. An understatement, if ever I saw one. :D

Yup :P

Also one of my favourite scenes, the Night's Watch oath is now on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8MrKpmYVLY

Also apparently that deer that Tywin is skinning at the start of the episode, was actually a real deer carcass. Yup those were proper entrails that Charles Dance was handling.

gotthammer
June 1st, 2011, 05:01 AM
Yup :P

Also apparently that deer that Tywin is skinning at the start of the episode, was actually a real deer carcass. Yup those were proper entrails that Charles Dance was handling.

I didn't think it was a 'prop'. I mean, a 'prop deer' (w/ entrails, lol) would probably be WAAAAY more expensive than 'dropping' one with a 4x4..."oops!" :D
(ok, I guess shooting one would be cheapest...4x4's aren't indestructible, sadly)

The Mighty 6 platoon
June 1st, 2011, 05:25 AM
I didn't think it was a 'prop'. I mean, a 'prop deer' (w/ entrails, lol) would probably be WAAAAY more expensive than 'dropping' one with a 4x4..."oops!" :D
(ok, I guess shooting one would be cheapest...4x4's aren't indestructible, sadly)
I presume that it was a deer that had originally been shot for its meat and they just paid for the whole carcass, unskinned and not gutted. There's a pretty big market for venison here in the UK (I should know, I had some very tasty venison burgers last Sunday :D) so it wouldn't have been that hard to get hold of a carcass.

Still Game of Thrones is at the fore front of gore, with real guts. :P

Game of Thrones, not for vegetarians.

*EDIT*
Also here is a youtube link to the inside the episode for this week, in whcih they talk a bit about the deer and Charles Dance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaDve0GCCDs

gotthammer
June 1st, 2011, 02:57 PM
Was that 15 or 50 times? :lol:

I wanna see outtakes/bloopers! :D

Ser Scot A Ellison
June 5th, 2011, 08:26 AM
TM6P,


Also sorts of win this week, as usual. Lesbians, shocking yet inevitable betrayals, more deaths, Drogo making epic speeches, but most importantly Charles Dance as Tywin. He is just perfect casting.

I called for Charles Dance as Tywin about six seconds after I heard the pilot would be produced. I saw his turn as Tulkinghorn in the BBC production of "Bleak House" and thought, "Damn, that man is Tywin Lannister right there."

Ser Scot A Ellison
June 5th, 2011, 08:29 AM
TM6P,


Yup :P

Also one of my favourite scenes, the Night's Watch oath is now on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8MrKpmYVLY

Also apparently that deer that Tywin is skinning at the start of the episode, was actually a real deer carcass. Yup those were proper entrails that Charles Dance was handling.

I have a tee-shirt with the Night's Watch oath on the back. It was produced by the BWB (GRRM Fan group) for the 2005 Worldcon in Edinbourough. I didn't get to go but had to have the tee-shirt.

gotthammer
June 5th, 2011, 08:36 AM
I have a tee-shirt with the Night's Watch oath on the back. It was produced by the BWB (GRRM Fan group) for the 2005 Worldcon in Edinbourough. I didn't get to go but had to have the tee-shirt.

Closest thing I have is an oversized Night's Watch volunteer shirt for Fantasy Flight's card game (well, I think I still have it...somewhere...) :D

The Mighty 6 platoon
June 5th, 2011, 10:15 AM
I clearly need to stock up on my A Song of Ice and Fire and GOT merchandise. :P Compared to everyone else I'm behind.

mysticseeker7
June 12th, 2011, 05:41 AM
I loved this episode.

The way Drogo and Dany flirted was fantastic. Loved the way they just spoke with each other and kissed. Then the scene after Dany was attacked and he went straight to her to check if she was ok. SWOON!!! Moon of my life-beautiful!!!!

Ser Jorah I hate with the passion of a 1000 firey suns. He's a traitor and a liar and the cause of what's to come.

Tywin is cold. Doesn't seem to care for any of his kids. Just his reputation.

Ned why play your card before securing your family????

dragongirl
June 12th, 2011, 07:54 AM
That sadly is Ned's weakness. He it too honorable and he wants to do whats right.

Skydiver
June 13th, 2011, 05:12 PM
ned isn't' cynical enough

he needs to start expecting the worst

Skydiver
June 13th, 2011, 05:20 PM
a nit with the wine merchant

'a dry red'....a dry wine isn't sweet. In fact, sweet is the opposite of dry

bonus points for dany to follow the lead of her escort. his instincts were right on and she followed him without blinking an eye

The Mighty 6 platoon
June 14th, 2011, 02:29 AM
a nit with the wine merchant

'a dry red'....a dry wine isn't sweet. In fact, sweet is the opposite of dry

Hmm, but if you think about it, it makes sense, the guy isn’t actually a wine merchant, he's an assassin, so it's not surprising he would get stuff about the wines wrong.

Or at least that's what I'm telling myself anyway. :D

Skydiver
June 14th, 2011, 03:19 AM
It's open to interpretation, because he could be a wine merchant that was paid to poison her, or an assassin that likely killed a wine merchant to take his place.

either way, Dany was definitely dispassionate as she started to walk/drag him to his death behind her horse.

her character is far from a monster, but she's definitely grown up and is ready to do whatever she needs to to take care of her son. (here's hoping she doesn't go nutters like Cat's sister

maxbo
June 14th, 2011, 04:41 AM
I'm going to post my usual long-winded review later -- I can't help it because I'm fascinated by this show and its characters.

But for now I have to scream NED!!!! in utter frustration.

By the gods, talk about a character with a fatal flaw!

KEK
July 4th, 2011, 01:42 AM
Fun fact: the trainee prostitute in the random lesbian sex scene was played by Britain's first Muslim porn star, Sahara Knite.