How are they dialing to and from a ship, in the first 2 stargate shows that was something they couldn't do unless they were near a planet and they would dial the planet's address, also the ship is moving so how can it constantly have the same address?
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well if the ship was moving slow enough and was still in the same area of space that the point of origin applies to, then theres no problem.
However Destiny was destined to be able to be reached anywhere in the universe so they must have created some sort of work around to get past this. As Destinys address is a code (when dialing from the Milky Way) it seems to be able to extrapolate where Destiny is and create a connection.
Based on the fact that we've seen the Ancients had ways of communicating over vast distances through subspace (the communication stones), the stargates must work on a similar frequency so its not so far a stretch.I'VE GONE WIKI-MAD!!!!
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Ok you can only dial a ship when its in the same general area of space, that’s why destiny drops out of FTL when people are trying to dial in. So being near a planet doesn’t really make a difference. I would agree with Eco, I think that destiny’s address would be constantly changing so a there would need to be some type of subspace link between the gates. I doubt that destiny’s address would stay the same when dialing it within the same galaxy.sigpic
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Originally posted by Crias View PostOk you can only dial a ship when its in the same general area of space, that’s why destiny drops out of FTL when people are trying to dial in. So being near a planet doesn’t really make a difference. I would agree with Eco, I think that destiny’s address would be constantly changing so a there would need to be some type of subspace link between the gates. I doubt that destiny’s address would stay the same when dialing it within the same galaxy.
Im pretty sure that Destiny's address stays the same everywhere, perhaps in a shorter code for the ship but then again we've only seen the address for Destiny once (Lost) so who knows.I'VE GONE WIKI-MAD!!!!
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Hmmm, see now I’m going to ask something silly and sound like a noob but I thought destiny’s address would change depending on where it drops out. But I guess if the glyphs on the gate are meant to be a type of numerical system destiny would always be at x0,0 y0,0 z0,0 wouldn’t it?sigpic
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That could also be a secondary function of the gates the Seed ships have dropped and why they have only been dropped in a straight line.
Dialling from ANYWHERE in the MW would not allow the instantaneous ping backs from Destiny's gate and the dialling gate not at that distance.
So the code is used to activate a special protocol in the first Destiny mark gate dropped on a planet, say, in the middle of the void between MW and the first galaxy Destiny headed for.
It dials that gate sends to ping packet and then gate #2's subspace link with the next gate in the que sends it along like what the Midway station did with people, only this one does it with the ping packet saying "hey, slow down, we wanna dial"
Destiny drops out and sends her relevant targeting data back down the chain to the dialling gate and boom, Connection.
I admit for the distance that far out the ping is pretty instantaneous for it to be too feasible without more info, Alteran MMO's mutsve been awesome.
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Originally posted by caribsci View Postand yet Atlantis can't do this?I would think that Atlantis would have this feature too being that it was so important to the ancients.that way other ancients who were ''left'' behind could easily dial up and reach atlantis.
Atlantis was not in a small enough area for that to work, the system could probably be configured to work around but it would probably take the configuration of the whole system for that. If not for this then it would be incapable of handling more than one stargate in a solar system, which we know that there is.I'VE GONE WIKI-MAD!!!!
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Originally posted by Nth Chevron View PostThat could also be a secondary function of the gates the Seed ships have dropped and why they have only been dropped in a straight line.
Dialling from ANYWHERE in the MW would not allow the instantaneous ping backs from Destiny's gate and the dialling gate not at that distance.
So the code is used to activate a special protocol in the first Destiny mark gate dropped on a planet, say, in the middle of the void between MW and the first galaxy Destiny headed for.
It dials that gate sends to ping packet and then gate #2's subspace link with the next gate in the que sends it along like what the Midway station did with people, only this one does it with the ping packet saying "hey, slow down, we wanna dial"
Destiny drops out and sends her relevant targeting data back down the chain to the dialling gate and boom, Connection.
I admit for the distance that far out the ping is pretty instantaneous for it to be too feasible without more info, Alteran MMO's mutsve been awesome.
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Destiny's code would probably unlock a subroutine in the Stargate system so once the eight symbols are dialed the signal is sent allowing the ship to drop out of FTL then the final symbol creates the connection. Now a six symbol code may also be used to dial the ship from nearby gates as we have seen but this may have also been an address, however that would need to constantly change and based on the fact that the gates connect with each other over subspace and to those Ancient remotes so that probably wouldn't be a problem.I'VE GONE WIKI-MAD!!!!
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How about this : Destiny's SG sends a message via subspace about it's location , the 9 chevron address is needed to get to the exact frequency/wavelength/whatever so the gate knows where to dial .
The idea is that the same system doesn't need this much power for shot range so you can get signal with a remote and dial ( i strangely suspect that this is the same for every gate ) .
And for any other gate dialed from the ship , well it goes like this :
- the DHD gate has priority for incoming gates .
- the newer version has priority over older gates , also stooping the old gate from dialing .
- if you dial the gate in orbit of a planet , then you use the planet PoO.
- if you are outside any established PoO , you must reconfigure the gate dialing program to use that portion of space as a PoO .
- you can't receive a incoming gate if you move at FTL speeds , but if you are not in hyperspace a signal can be sent and the gate can get out of FTL to receive the incoming gate .
Did i miss any of the situations ?sigpic
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so if I understand correctly, the 9 symbol address for dialing from the milky way sends a signol to the ship to drop it out of FTL to make the connection, also the ship is sending signols to tell all the gates were it is. that way the gates know were destiny is so they can dial to and from, as for the ship moving the ship could calculate it's point of origen each time it drops out of FTL, however a continuously changing address would be confusing, so the ancients could have programmed it in a way so the address that people have to dial stays the same, and the ship fills in the relevent information. example: the symbol for PoO tells the ship to use current PoO rather than telling it to use a specific PoO
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Originally posted by Crias View PostWell the Alterans did build the communication stones before destiny so maybe as soon as a 9 chevron dial is attempted it activates a subroutine at about the 8th chevron that drops destiny out so that the wormhole can connect.
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Originally posted by caribsci View Postand yet Atlantis can't do this?I would think that Atlantis would have this feature too being that it was so important to the ancients.that way other ancients who were ''left'' behind could easily dial up and reach atlantis.
I don't think they built those com devices. I think they Found them and adapted them to their needs.. And it was the discovery of those that led to the tech/religion split..
It almost seems that the original devices were spread out at like 1 per galaxy.
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Originally posted by garhkal View PostI don't think they built those com devices. I think they Found them and adapted them to their needs.. And it was the discovery of those that led to the tech/religion split..sigpic
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