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Clark must seize his ultimate destiny to become the hero the world needs when an alien planet threatens to crash into Earth. Lois tries to convince the President not to try nuking the threat, and Lex Luthor is reborn.

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<div align="center">Special Note: This thread covers the second half of "Finale," which originally
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Rico
May 13th, 2011, 06:11 PM
What an awesome final episode! That's the way to end a series. Thanks to everyone that worked on this and especially Tom Welling - one of the most fully developed Clark Kent's ever. I'll miss seeing all of you each week.

the fifth man
May 13th, 2011, 06:32 PM
While this may not have pleased everyone, it definitely worked well enough for me. I thought this was a great finale, very fitting for this show. Those final moments were magical for me, as Clark finally took his final steps towards becoming Superman.

Starsaber
May 13th, 2011, 06:40 PM
Would have been nice to have a full shot of Clark in the suit. Closest non CG we got was him tearing off his shirt to reveal it at the end.

Vyse
May 13th, 2011, 06:56 PM
That's two hours of my life I want back. Now I remember why I stopped watching this show so many years ago (Guess I was still in high school then). Not my cup of tea, way too much melodrama.

the fifth man
May 13th, 2011, 07:14 PM
For me, the return of Lex made things that much sweeter. It was great to truly see him again.

Gollumpus
May 13th, 2011, 09:06 PM
That's two hours of my life I want back. Now I remember why I stopped watching this show so many years ago (Guess I was still in high school then). Not my cup of tea, way too much melodrama.

I'm with you there. I looked in on the first episode, decided that "Smallville 90210" was not for me and never really looked at it again. Not sure what possessed me to watch this thing tonight. Maybe I was being sentimental about the number of TV series filmed around here which are ending (Smallville, Stargate).

They looked like they were trying to do a tip of the hat to the Chris Reeve movie from '78, which was nice I suppose. Ah well, moving on. Sorry to rain on anyone's parade.

regards,
G.

Shylodog
May 13th, 2011, 10:56 PM
Return of Lex. Return of 'Jimmy' Olson. Nice snips of Lana (Kristin Kreuk always played tug of war with Morena Baccaran for my fantasy wife). Clark finally donning the suit. The original theme song. Wish Pete could have made an appearance somewhere.

A fine, fine ending for one of my guilty pleasures over the last decade. With this finale, I won't feel the loss that I feel for SGU and the 'gate franchises in general. Well done, CW. Well done.

RoK
May 13th, 2011, 11:31 PM
Return of Lex. Return of 'Jimmy' Olson. Nice snips of Lana (Kristin Kreuk always played tug of war with Morena Baccaran for my fantasy wife). Clark finally donning the suit. The original theme song. Wish Pete could have made an appearance somewhere.

A fine, fine ending for one of my guilty pleasures over the last decade. With this finale, I won't feel the loss that I feel for SGU and the 'gate franchises in general. Well done, CW. Well done.

I have to agree with you there, minus the Kristin Kreuk/Morena Baccaran thing. The CW really did end well with the series. It was too bad I missed like half the episodes this season. I thought that it was also great that Clark finally flew as himself and after donning the suit. I shall miss the show, though I might start RPing it now. -shrugs- I dunno.

kennythewraith
May 13th, 2011, 11:52 PM
i really enjoyed the finale.it wasnt perfect but it had way more ups than downs.my only gripe is i wish the climax involved more of a fight with darkseid than wat we had but i know unfortunalty that darn budget wouldnt allow it.it was great to see lex back and i feel it was handled very well.but of course the highlight was clark finally flying!finally wearing the suit and saving the day as superman.also aaron ashmore's cameo as the real jimmy was awesome!

Shan Bruce Lee
May 14th, 2011, 01:49 AM
Despite the fact that every shot of Superman was CGI and there was never a good solid shot of him, I still thought it was one of the best finales I've ever seen. And when he started flying during the DarkSeid fight was completely awesome.

The 2018 bookmark scenes were nice too. Chloe saying "and that's the day he became Superman" (paraphrased) wasn't the way I expected them to introduce the Superman name. I'm guessing Chloe and Oliver's kid having his own bow and arrow was a nod to Speedy/Red Arrow.

The scenes with the Luthers were some of the best. Especially when Tess kicked the $#[email protected] out of Lionel's goons.

Rico
May 14th, 2011, 06:41 AM
Loved the finale. The way they worked the movie music in at the end and nods to certain things from the films was awesome. Really going to miss this series. Wish they had just used these folks for the next Superman film. They've earned it.

flobo
May 14th, 2011, 09:09 AM
A correct ending.

Was a bit saddened that they had to partially press the reset button. I mean dump Kara last week since she could have flown and save the day faster than Clark. They made her stronger than Clark from day one, so i can somewhat understand why they did it, since if she had stayed, Clark would have probably been known as Supergirl's little cousin instead of the other way around. Even so, it's bad planning for me.

Didn't like having Lex's memories erased either, but i'm not sure they could have handled it any other way.
After that, I almost expected Lois's mind to be wiped too in order to connect better with the superman movies.

But those are small problems, it was still a good finale.

LoneStar1836
May 14th, 2011, 09:12 AM
I enjoyed it. It could have been better, but the parting shot of him on the roof and the music was a nice send off to a great series.

I thought they really rushed the wrap up to the DarkSeid stuff, but since that wasn't what the finale was really about, I didn't mind much.

Loved seeing Lex/MR back as well as AA. :)

Kinda sad to see it go, but 10 years is a long time, and I have the dvds to still enjoy.

skarwolf
May 14th, 2011, 10:32 AM
Lame rehash of things that've already been done.

Why introduce one of the best villains in DC comics and give him such a weaksauce role.

They should've ended it with an hour long beatdown between supes and darkseid.

Fortunately if you want to see much better character interaction between Darkseid & Superman refer to the animated versions. Way better.

Click to around 7 min (look on lexx's face is the best)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pneBDGPgD30&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRsRlynQevA

Zarius
May 14th, 2011, 11:41 AM
After that, I almost expected Lois's mind to be wiped too in order to connect better with the superman movies.

SV has always tried to emulate the mythology, not just the movies...and they've honoured that to an extent. Anyone who reads the comics knows Lois KNOWS Clark's identity, and that they are married. Other nods to comic mythology were ripe in this finale (Lex coming back in a cloned body and his ascension to Presidency, and yes, even forgetting Clark was Superman, which he knew breifly in the comics during the Manchester Black arc)

flobo
May 14th, 2011, 01:06 PM
Yes, but Brandom Routh's costume, the musical theme, the fact that Jonathan died from an heart attack, this is more related to the movies than to the comics.

They've always navigated in between, and i would have prefere for them to make their own ending than force themselve to reach a statue quo.

lopo30
May 14th, 2011, 04:37 PM
well the saving was meh (took 10 sec to blew away gigantic planet and didnt even destry it so it would not harm other planets) and to see clark fly was like 1min in total for 2 part episode final

story was good but yeah to much melodrama in it
now it needs prequel what is a show about how he is superman and the adventures with the justice league

majorsal
May 14th, 2011, 05:51 PM
very, very nice series ender. :)

while i was watching, i felt like crying a couple or so times. :p it was very sentimental, and i loved it!!

i also had this sadness watching it, not just b/c it was the last smallville ep, but b/c... it was just really nice to see a series give the fans what they want before the end! (why stargate, why... )

i was shocked by tess's death. she was never one of my faves, but still. (((tess)))

LOVED that chloe wasn't killed off, or ended up with that fate mask and never got to have a nice life! she ended up with oliver and a child. happiness all around! :p

~chloe/oliver was my fave ship. WONDERFUL to see this ship handled with love and respect, for the fans too!~

(why stargate, why not with s/j?... )

so anyway, i'm going to miss this series. s10 has not been my fave season (i felt they pushed themselves to write this last season, just so they could break sg1's 10 year record), but i very much enjoyed this send-off.

now i have sanctuary and... uh... i've got some other scifi shows to watch... V... nope... uh.... i'll get back to you on that. :mckay: :p

the fifth man
May 14th, 2011, 07:38 PM
I watched this again this evening, and it was even better the second time around. They really did do a pretty good job with ending this show.

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
May 15th, 2011, 04:37 AM
the finale was interesting. thought i haven't seen a single episode since after the justice episode in season six. (i was still in high school at the time and that was taking up most of my time). oliver queen's redemption was nice as he took on darkseid's cronies. took em out with one arrow each and shot all three arrows at the same time.

wise one
May 15th, 2011, 05:27 AM
poor tess, she seems forgotton after a while, the should of gone all out for the cgi and a few good shots of clark in the suit.

i was hoping for a battle between daekseid and clark and omega beam and whatnot.

but it was good though

KatG
May 15th, 2011, 05:50 AM
I thought it was fitting and very satisfying conclusion.

I'm really glad that Oliver was redeemed and that he and Chloe got their happy ending. Loved how at the end in 2018 we were where we were supposed to be in the Superman universe and all characters were acting in character. Many shows could take a lesson from how this finale was handled. A job well done by all.

Shan Bruce Lee
May 15th, 2011, 06:52 AM
I watched this again this evening, and it was even better the second time around. They really did do a pretty good job with ending this show.

Yeah I liked it better the second time too.

lopo30
May 15th, 2011, 07:28 AM
now all what is needed is that they make prequel to the show what will fill us in the storyes in the 7 years time what was in the end (7 years after)

pilot should start as Clark Kent reveal him as a Superman to the people and start with the story as superman

to easy defeat with the darkseid and planet save
btw why always superman fly and save planes by lifting it up under wing and engine
why not from the plane nose or the belly where the plane should be stronger

Raj_2006
May 15th, 2011, 09:42 AM
now all what is needed is that they make prequel to the show what will fill us in the storyes in the 7 years time what was in the end (7 years after)

pilot should start as Clark Kent reveal him as a Superman to the people and start with the story as superman

to easy defeat with the darkseid and planet save
btw why always superman fly and save planes by lifting it up under wing and engine
why not from the plane nose or the belly where the plane should be stronger

I think it was to portray christerphor reeves superman as he flew under the wing but if memory serves in superman returns you see superman fly under a space shuttle but later grabs the wind of plane but only to stop it from spinning.

morbosfist
May 15th, 2011, 01:36 PM
This was a decent finale. I haven't watched in two seasons, but I tuned in for the sendoff.

I'm somewhat disappointed in how they allocated the VFX budget. Apokolips was pretty well done, except for that weird liquid surface near the end. Seeing it get pushed out of the atmosphere was nicely done, though. I'm disappointed they didn't bother with a full body shot of Welling!Superman. Seriously, I was waiting for that. Such a let down.

I was kinda hoping for a throwdown between Darkseid and Clark, but after the Doomsday fight, I can't honestly say I expected it. Darkseid at least looked cool as an evil spectre.

All things considered, it worked out well for a finale. The scene with Luthor becoming president and instituting economic reform was a nice nod to other Superman stories.

LtColCarter
May 16th, 2011, 11:21 AM
For the naysayers...all I can say is you should've have watched if you left the show years ago.

Now, on to the good stuff! I enjoyed the finale. When it was over, I said, "That's the way to send off an excellent series." I loved the snippets of Clarks life and him realizing that they were all trials that led him to his destiny.

I really enjoyed the episode. I'm hoping to do a rewatch tonight!

marty2006
May 16th, 2011, 02:03 PM
Loved it!

the fifth man
May 17th, 2011, 06:26 PM
Loved it!

Definitely a fitting way to end this show. Everyone involved in Smallville should be very proud.

Replicator Todd
May 17th, 2011, 09:21 PM
Wow, I don't know what to say. I loved it and only had a few quibbles. Seeing Lex again was great and sooooooooooooOOOOOOOO awesome! Wasn't too big on the memory erase thing, but Tess doing it just made me like it more, it fits the Luthor legacy really well and makes alot of sense to me Tess would be the one to erase Lex's memories if it was anyone else I wouldn't be as pleased. Goodbye Tess. :( Awesome seeing Jonathan again, I didn't fully understand how he was there but it was great. Lionel was just FAN-tastic. I didn't care about having a big Darkseid/Superman showdown, it wasn't about that. Very nice to see a Jimmy cameo! I would say Jimmy again but this is apparently the little Jimmy we saw back at the "other" Jimmy's funeral. CHLOE SULLIVAN FTW! :D

I have more good things I can say but i'm tired at the moment.

I did think alot of the first part dragged a bit though. The wedding stuff especially, some of that could of been cut out. I think Part 1 made Part 2 seem a little rushed. Sure we could of gotten more of CK in tights but in the end it was a great ending to a fantastic show! I would love for Smallville to continue in comic book form.

I give it a 10! Or maybe a 9.5 or 9.7....but 10 expresses my love more. :D

So...when are getting the next Superman show? :p;)


EDIT: Oh and to add, I loved how the episode kinda explained(or at least I saw that it did) that Superman would be the disguise and Clark Kent still would be the true person. (And I'm not talking about the Daily Planet CK :p)

jmoz
May 18th, 2011, 09:57 PM
wow, finally can see this thread.

I thought the finale was great, cheesy appropriate send-off. Only thing I didn't like was the lack of action, it focused more on the build-up to the little action and didn't focus too much on Clark in uniform, lol which was ok cause come on, it was very cheesy! lol but was awesome.

Billz
May 20th, 2011, 08:06 AM
The ending was okay, but that final fight between Clark and Darkseid was so anti-climatic, that I actually felt cheated after it finished.

Hearing so much about Darkseid being the big scary ultimate evil, making us think that we would see the best fight scene in the entire shows history, only for Clark to just fly straight through him, making him blow up and scream like a little ***** was poor.

We also deserved a full shot of Tom in "the suit", and we never got it. And having Chloe basically reveal Clark's double life in comic form to a kid seemed pointless considering that the characters always tried to cover it up.

LoneStar1836
May 20th, 2011, 10:25 AM
We also deserved a full shot of Tom in "the suit", and we never got it. TW always said he never wanted to wear the suit, and he essentially got his way and never did.

I didn't really mind even though I thought the CGI was rather meh, but the final live shot of him was a great send off.

LtColCarter
May 21st, 2011, 06:20 AM
TW always said he never wanted to wear the suit, and he essentially got his way and never did.

I didn't really mind even though I thought the CGI was rather meh, but the final live shot of him was a great send off.

Why did he not want to wear the suit? Sortta goes with the territory when you're in the role he was in.

Shylodog
May 21st, 2011, 08:13 AM
Why did he not want to wear the suit? Sortta goes with the territory when you're in the role he was in.

Probably the stigma of typecasting. Once an actor dons the red cape, they are always referred to as 'Superman', and their careers tend to stagnate from there. Look at George Reeve, Christopher Reeves, Dean Cain and Brandon Routh. For the most part, although it's still early for Routh, their parts dwindled to supporting roles because they couldn't break the typecast of being Superman. Heck, even in George and Christopher's cases they were referred to as Superman in the headlines when they died.

As long as Tom Welling could maintain that distance from the suit, he could sidestep that typecasting that gets attached to such an iconic wardrobe. Until the end, he was a lead actor that wore everyday attire that acted like Superman, but never really was Superman. Until the end.

LoneStar1836
May 21st, 2011, 09:32 AM
Why did he not want to wear the suit? Sortta goes with the territory when you're in the role he was in.I just remember reading some interview long ago. Can't remember exactly why.

Replicator Todd
May 21st, 2011, 10:25 AM
Why did he not want to wear the suit? Sortta goes with the territory when you're in the role he was in.

I would agree, but he was playing Clark Kent on his journey to becoming Superman. Not Superman himself. While it would of been nice to see TW in full suit non-CG. I thought we got to see alot more than expected. I love the shirt-rip! :D

SaberBlade
May 25th, 2011, 07:21 PM
Probably the stigma of typecasting. Once an actor dons the red cape, they are always referred to as 'Superman', and their careers tend to stagnate from there. Look at George Reeve, Christopher Reeves, Dean Cain and Brandon Routh. For the most part, although it's still early for Routh, their parts dwindled to supporting roles because they couldn't break the typecast of being Superman. Heck, even in George and Christopher's cases they were referred to as Superman in the headlines when they died.

As long as Tom Welling could maintain that distance from the suit, he could sidestep that typecasting that gets attached to such an iconic wardrobe. Until the end, he was a lead actor that wore everyday attire that acted like Superman, but never really was Superman. Until the end.

It's not just the suit though, he played Clark Kent for 10 seasons so like it or not, he's going to be associated with the character for the rest of his career. It doesn't really matter if he wore the suit or not.

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Personally, I think the whole two parter was one massive cheat.

First half an hour is focused on a wedding that doesn't happen for 7 more years, great waste of time that was. Lionel selling his soul to bring back Lex, oh come on. Will admit watching him get his heart ripped out was pure badass. Learning to fly with the use of a montage, that is just asking for someone to make fun of it....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQvNu8LoTo0

Disappointed they never resurrected the real Lex, but it was good to have Rosenbaum back. Thought it was going to be great, having Clark and a fully knowledged Lex being rivals but then erasing his memory, what the hell. Pointlessly killing Tess, no Supes/Apoc fight, terrible Superman CGI and for someone who is supposed to inspire the people, no one actually saw him.

Only thing I really enjoyed, Tom ripping the shirt.

Replicator Todd
May 26th, 2011, 11:28 AM
I thought or like to think that the Lex we saw in the finale WAS the real Lex just with some clone parts. Thats what I thought "Lx0" meant.

SaberBlade
May 26th, 2011, 12:09 PM
I thought or like to think that the Lex we saw in the finale WAS the real Lex just with some clone parts. Thats what I thought "Lx0" meant.

I was hoping the same thing, but the impression I got that it was more of the best parts from each clone pieced together. Personally I'd rather they went for the real Lex with parts added on which is A: Great because it's the real Lex, and B: Great because they used the same plan from a game series I love.

Replicator Todd
May 26th, 2011, 04:09 PM
I was hoping the same thing, but the impression I got that it was more of the best parts from each clone pieced together. Personally I'd rather they went for the real Lex with parts added on which is A: Great because it's the real Lex, and B: Great because they used the same plan from a game series I love.

I'm going to believe its the real Lex no matter what! It helps me enjoy his return more. :p

rockstarsister
June 2nd, 2011, 03:33 PM
I totally LOVED it. cried in the first 20 minutes (yeah I'm pathetic) it was amazing LOVED it I just wish they you know ACTUALLY GOT MARRIED but eppp Chlollie has a son *happy fan girl dance*

rockstarsister
June 2nd, 2011, 03:48 PM
ok so I know I just posted but I just have to say, Lionel's beard scared me (lol it really did) and I'm still a new fan to Smallville, I felt by watching it I'd betray Stargate but well yeah *grins* anyway I think it was a really great send of I'm just sad that it's over (3 of my shows over, why networks why?) I really liked the send of and seeing AA again *happy dance* LOVE him but if I find out he ever calls Clark CK I'll box him in the ears and I LOVED how Rosenbaum came back though I hated that he killed Tess, I hated her at first but now she was just awesome :D so I gotta say I LOVE the finale it was an amazing Send off (and sorry but better than the SGU send off, sorry I'm still sad about that) but as papa Kent said "Always Hold On To Smallville"

Shan Bruce Lee
June 2nd, 2011, 04:11 PM
I thought or like to think that the Lex we saw in the finale WAS the real Lex just with some clone parts. Thats what I thought "Lx0" meant.

I definitely think it was the real Lex. They all treated him like the real Lex and nobody called him a clone.

Vey
June 10th, 2011, 12:37 PM
I would have to give this episode an 8/10.

I felt like the producers were trying to mash everything up all in an hour and something minutes. While their intentions are good, an extra episode before Finale would've been nice!!!

Lex Luthor coming back for the finale was very appropriate however, I felt like he deserved more screen time! I especially enjoyed the Clark & Lex conversation at the burnt mansion - it had so much potential! Sadly, I was bummed out when his memories were erased by a simple touch............ WHA!?!?!?!

I was hoping Lana Lang would be put in somewhere but oh well!

Here's to 10 years of Smallville! It finally ended! Now time to go look for something else to watch :(

Starsaber
June 15th, 2011, 05:10 AM
Lex Luthor coming back for the finale was very appropriate however, I felt like he deserved more screen time! I especially enjoyed the Clark & Lex conversation at the burnt mansion - it had so much potential! Sadly, I was bummed out when his memories were erased by a simple touch............ WHA!?!?!?!


Well, to be fair, Rosenbaum was only available for one day of filming.

Lucycat
June 19th, 2011, 04:29 PM
I really enjoyed the finale! It was great that Rosenbaum came back, I was glad to see a Clark/Lex scene, the chemistry between the two have always been great... I really missed him these last five years of the show. LOVED the last half hour the best, when Clark was taking the final steps to be Superman. Now I want a series where he is Superman! :) Kudos to all the actors, it's been a great ride for 10 yrs!

moy
June 28th, 2011, 10:47 PM
I really loved that finale too! Many friends hated it, but I just loved it because it was so much in the spirit of the comics!
Of course, many details were totally stupid, non-scientific, and irrationnal, but that was a real comic-atmosphere.
And as other said, that's a great way to end a series!

I hope they will make 1-2 movies, with the same team. Something nice about the Justice Leage, for example. And of course CK in his Superman-Costume :D

One detail: I would have loved to see Perry White as angry boss, why did we only hear him? :(

nathanddrews
November 8th, 2011, 07:51 AM
Warning: this short critique is negative. If you loved the finale, you probably won't like what I have to say.

We (the wife and I) just finished watching all 10 seasons, from start to finish. It took us a little over a year. We're both big Superman fans... well we're big fans of just about most comics and sci-fi (not SyFy) and we like to watch shows in large chunks. Anyway, we're sadly on the "haters" side of Smallville after sitting through all Clark's whining and pining, the relentless love triangles, and pointless bantering. Even going beyond the "Smallville 90210" comments, this entire show could have been half the length.

The finale was a major letdown, everything took twice as long as it should have, the pacing was all over the place. The real Darkseid would not have tried to take over Earth by stealth and subversion, but raw, glorious, military strength. They should have dedicated their budget to more than just 12 seconds of Superman saving the world at the end. We felt the same way when Kal-El "defeated" Doomsday. A 2-second blur followed by an explosion and no real explanation other than "Yeah, Doomsday is buried for good." So where did Kal-El push Apocalypse? Just out of the atmosphere? Why no retribution by Darkseid? It did not feel like a victory in the slightest. In a word: pathetic.

Thank God it's all over.

the fifth man
November 12th, 2011, 09:12 PM
It may not have been perfect, but I still really look upon this series finale quite fondly.

LtColCarter
November 13th, 2011, 06:55 PM
It may not have been perfect, but I still really look upon this series finale quite fondly.

As do I. I disagree with nathanddrews' assessment. The show was based on the characters from the Superman 'verse, but was very much it's own entity. If people dislike shows so much...why watch all 10 seasons. Personally, I loved Smallville.

nathanddrews
November 23rd, 2011, 06:39 AM
Why watch it? We watched it because we ARE so fond of Superman and we kept watching in hopes that it would get better. And it did get better in some ways, when Clark left Smallville to seek his destiny as "The Blur" in Metropolis, it felt like he was really trying to leave his forlorn attitude behind him and embrace his true self.

The most grating part of the show was that it focused too much on overly exaggerated and overly emotional relationships. Also, less whining would have been better. You can have a strong and emotionally deep Clark character without resorting to cheap, Dawson's Creek drama.

Ultimately, it's just disappointing that it took EIGHT seasons of Clark repeating the same mistakes before he took his destiny seriously. We just feel that this could have been accomplished in much less time and made for a much more engaging and interesting show.

YMMV

LoneStar1836
November 23rd, 2011, 07:43 AM
I can see why people don't like the show. It has its flaws. Many of which I just learned to ignore because some were typical to the style of the show. Sure it could have been written differently some other creators who could have set a different tone from the start, but it probably wouldn't have been the Smallville I enjoyed.

Smallville was more about Clark than it was about Superman. I liked that about the show. I did think some of the relationship stuff did get tedious. But the core story of the series was great, imo.

LtColCarter
November 28th, 2011, 11:20 AM
I can see why people don't like the show. It has its flaws. Many of which I just learned to ignore because some were typical to the style of the show. Sure it could have been written differently some other creators who could have set a different tone from the start, but it probably wouldn't have been the Smallville I enjoyed.

Smallville was more about Clark than it was about Superman. I liked that about the show. I did think some of the relationship stuff did get tedious. But the core story of the series was great, imo.

Exactly, the show wasn't called Superman...it was Smallville. Just like with every show, there will be people who don't like it for whatever reason. However, if I don't like something...I don't watch ten seasons of it...even if it is supposed to be based on something that I love. I used to love Battlestar Galactica when I was a kid. Then the new BSG came on...and I was so extremely disappointed to see my campy 70s show turned into a soap opera. Did I watch all of the seasons and then log in to complain about it? No, I didn't. I stopped watching and found something better to do with that hour of my life. Anyhoo...I do agree with LoneStar1836, that the show was about Clark coming into his own more than it was about Superman.

Solokiller
November 29th, 2011, 11:36 AM
I would like to see a Superman tv show that follows Smallville, even if there's a gap of a few years.

LtColCarter
November 30th, 2011, 08:24 AM
I would like to see a Superman tv show that follows Smallville, even if there's a gap of a few years.

I would too...I just don't think Tom Welling would do it. I read somewhere that he was opposed to wearing the Superman costume.

LtColCarter
January 2nd, 2012, 08:36 AM
Just got season 10 for Christmas! I enjoyed rewatching the season.

escyos
May 23rd, 2013, 05:38 AM
Coming from a rewatch I have to say that his battles with the big bads were very unsatisfying. Most of the battles were them fighting for a bit then him using a crystal or something else and winning. You only really saw him fight hard with Titan, Doomsday threw him but then he tackled Doomsday.

Don't get me wrong, the show is still good but you really notice these fights aren't as much as they could be.

REPLICATOR SAM
June 17th, 2013, 03:04 AM
And im glad he did do that one day of filming.
Would have been a terrible loss not to have his main enemy appear in the final episode as he had such an impact on the show.

I thought he was a very good Lex particularly in later seasons.
He was much more cold,nasty etc.


Well, to be fair, Rosenbaum was only available for one day of filming.

LtColCarter
June 17th, 2013, 02:45 PM
Why watch it? We watched it because we ARE so fond of Superman and we kept watching in hopes that it would get better. And it did get better in some ways, when Clark left Smallville to seek his destiny as "The Blur" in Metropolis, it felt like he was really trying to leave his forlorn attitude behind him and embrace his true self.

The most grating part of the show was that it focused too much on overly exaggerated and overly emotional relationships. Also, less whining would have been better. You can have a strong and emotionally deep Clark character without resorting to cheap, Dawson's Creek drama.

Ultimately, it's just disappointing that it took EIGHT seasons of Clark repeating the same mistakes before he took his destiny seriously. We just feel that this could have been accomplished in much less time and made for a much more engaging and interesting show.

YMMV

Then you should've ended your misery earlier. As LoneStar1836 said this show wasn't about Superman...it was about Clark discovering who he was. The story runners took a different direction than the mainstream Superman evolution, which I liked. It is also what I like in the current Man of Steel movie. Also, I never watched Dawson's Crack...so...I don't know what cheap drama you're talking about.