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generaloneill
November 23rd, 2010, 01:24 PM
If like Rush someone you cared about was hurt or killed would you take revenge?

I would consequences be damned they say revenge is a dish best served cold, in my case i would serve it piping hot when i get p****d i get p****d and i don't let anything get in my way. I'm like Ronon Dex times 100.:ronan:

P-90_177
November 23rd, 2010, 01:31 PM
Would I fly off the handle and want to hunt after him? Sure I would.

Would I kill him? Not right away. Not like Rush did...........there are far worse things you can do to a man. I'd get all the information I could out of him and then make him beg to be killed and I still wouldn't. I'd make him feel true agony.

blueray
November 23rd, 2010, 01:53 PM
i don't know if i'll be able to plan on killing someone, even after what they did, but i definitely would want too. and if the opportunity was right in front of me, i would.

James71
November 23rd, 2010, 01:54 PM
I would have done a stomach shot, then walked away. Very painful way to go. Take a few hours.

themeatcleaver
November 23rd, 2010, 01:59 PM
this thread has potential... goes to get his popcorn ready!

personally, I'm a big fan of killing people WITH the gate. I say stick his head through an open wormhole and close it up a'la Kowalski from Sg-1 :)

Edit: OR, if you're a fan of making them suffer... do it repeatedly to different limbs first lol

jelgate
November 23rd, 2010, 02:10 PM
I don't know. I don't think any of us can fully know what we would do until it happens

AtlantisRules!!!
November 23rd, 2010, 02:16 PM
Someone like Simeon? Definately.

Ben 'Teal'c would WIN!!' Noble
November 23rd, 2010, 02:22 PM
Killing someone is not easy but I doubt he would have lived long with the injuries he had. Maybe Rush did him a favour :D.

themeatcleaver
November 23rd, 2010, 02:28 PM
Killing someone is not easy but I doubt he would have lived long with the injuries he had. Maybe Rush did him a favour :D.

Yeah.. lets go with that! :)

Linda06
November 23rd, 2010, 02:46 PM
I'm with Jel on this one. I don't think anyone would know how they'd react until they were put in that situation.

chrono trigger
November 23rd, 2010, 03:16 PM
yes i would

Kayzersoze
November 23rd, 2010, 03:50 PM
Interesting question. My suggestion in another thread was to remove one of Simeon's arms and beat him to death with that. I think I read that in a book somewhere and thought it was probably one of the more gruseome ways to kill someone.

Anyway, I sometimes have what you would call extremely realistic dreams. To the point it takes me several minutes when I wake up to realise I was dreaming, and that 'this' is reality. Even by midday those days I'm still a little confused, remembering the dream as if it really happened. *

Sometimes this is amazingly good - especially flying dreams. But more often than not it is bad. Chase dreams leave me completely exhausted at the beginning of a day. Lost relative dreams leave me extremely sad at the beginning of a day - most often my dad who recently passed away, but in the dreams he's alive and well and we are having a great time together. Then when I realise it was a dream it's like I just found out he'd passed, which was horribly sad.

In any case, if how we react to certain situations in dreams is any indication of how we'd behave in the same situations in reality, then I get the impression I would be a vengeful person in the circumstances you explain. The one (and thankfully only) dream where I lost my wife, was in a car accident where a P plater (teen or early twenties driver who in my country, frequently kill themselves and others with reckless driving) ran a red light and T-boned the car I was in. Once I realised my wife had gone, I turned to the horrified kid who was driving and literally beat him to death with my fists, while hundreds of people looked on horrified. I kept hitting and hitting his head until it was just a sack of skull bones. The smell of the vomit from people watching was the last thing I remembered before my wife woke me up, and I was completely drenched in sweat and panicking for several minutes. I smelled that vomit for the rest of the day no matter where I was, and couldn't wipe the picture of my wife's lifeless face out of my mind for weeks.

Whoa ... that got a bit serious sorry. And I probably sound like a bit of a psycho. But FWIW I'm actually quite a peaceful & humourous person, and don't ever fight or start arguments or anything. But ... when I think rationally about that dream, and remember how I felt, I feel like that's precisely how I would react if she were taken from me in reality. I really, really hope I never have to find out.

* This is why I found 'Inception' to be so hauntingly interesting.

tomstone
November 23rd, 2010, 06:54 PM
If I would have been in Rushs position, I would have taken the most unpleseant road for Simeon. First I would have tied him up very nicely and then start off with cutting off his fingers and toes one by one. Then maybe I would have still given him a rookie face lift before leaving him frying in the Sun.

Wayston
November 23rd, 2010, 10:49 PM
Rush definatly started out wanting to kill him (he didn't know about the information at first), then was oscillating between dead or alive leaning most towards dead throughout most of the episode... but I suspect by the time he pulled the herd trampeling stunt he genuinly no longer had time to carry Simeon towards the gate by himself, perhaps it would not have mattered that much if he had the time but at least now his conscience is clearer.

I'd like to think that I would not have killed Simeon if I had the time to get him back to Destiny, but under the explicit expectation that he would be tortured as much as humanly possible (not to be mistaken with humanely :)) and killed as soon as he proved no longer useful. All things equal when someone would do something like that to me I would rather have him suffer as much as possible, rather than as little as possible. I would also be telling him "hey it's not me, it's karma" all the time.

Jaemal
November 24th, 2010, 01:59 AM
It is always easy to talk though on the 'net but in real life I doubt many people here would have the guts (or even the skills) necessary to kill someone. If you talk about someone as dangerous as Simeon, I wouldn't recommend going after him unless you are trained for tasks like this. I don't know if I would be reasonable enough to see this after losing a loved one, but I would like to think so.

Steelbox
November 24th, 2010, 04:25 AM
Agree with Linda and Jel. The inicial rage would be similar with every one. Rage, desire to kill Simeon, just like Rush did. But when you are past the point where you starts to think better not with emotion but with reason. AT this point many wont know what to do.

garhkal
November 24th, 2010, 05:05 AM
Would I fly off the handle and want to hunt after him? Sure I would.

Would I kill him? Not right away. Not like Rush did...........there are far worse things you can do to a man. I'd get all the information I could out of him and then make him beg to be killed and I still wouldn't. I'd make him feel true agony.

Agreed. The nice thing about playing lots of role playing games (starwars, adnd 2nd ed) is that as the one playing the baddies a lot (judge, gm/dm) i get to humor my evil side.. and trust me i have come up with some nasty creative ways to exact revenge




If I would have been in Rushs position, I would have taken the most unpleseant road for Simeon. First I would have tied him up very nicely and then start off with cutting off his fingers and toes one by one. Then maybe I would have still given him a rookie face lift before leaving him frying in the Sun.



Tying down a foe near an ant hill is one of the nastier ones i have though of..


Rush definatly started out wanting to kill him (he didn't know about the information at first), then was oscillating between dead or alive leaning most towards dead throughout most of the episode... but I suspect by the time he pulled the herd trampeling stunt he genuinly no longer had time to carry Simeon towards the gate by himself, perhaps it would not have mattered that much if he had the time but at least now his conscience is clearer.

While i agree it did look at times like scotts plees got through, i think simeon's taunting is what pushed him to finally want to pull the trigger.

xxxevilgrinxxx
November 24th, 2010, 05:53 AM
I don't know. I don't think any of us can fully know what we would do until it happens

This. We can all talk about what we'd do, but until we're there, it's just that - talk. Considering how many people are put in this situation every day and don't take the law into their own hands, I'd say the odds are slim, in this world anyway, that any of us would go all Bronson on anyone.

tomstone
November 24th, 2010, 06:09 AM
It is always easy to talk though on the 'net but in real life I doubt many people here would have the guts (or even the skills) necessary to kill someone. If you talk about someone as dangerous as Simeon, I wouldn't recommend going after him unless you are trained for tasks like this. I don't know if I would be reasonable enough to see this after losing a loved one, but I would like to think so.

I have almost died because of a damn robery before, so at least from my point of view I would really like to apply what I said in my previous post to said individuals.

generaloneill
November 24th, 2010, 08:37 AM
It is always easy to talk though on the 'net but in real life I doubt many people here would have the guts (or even the skills) necessary to kill someone. If you talk about someone as dangerous as Simeon, I wouldn't recommend going after him unless you are trained for tasks like this. I don't know if I would be reasonable enough to see this after losing a loved one, but I would like to think so.

Appearances can be deceiving and human beings are capable of extreme levels of violence, people will do anything when you take into account the old saying guilt can be a powerful motivator but it can also be a great destroyer, the guilt a person would feel over not having been able to do anything to save the person they loved or a close friend can make them capable of anything.

Gollumpus
November 24th, 2010, 10:59 AM
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
- Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), (attributed)

There is no revenge so complete as forgiveness.
- Josh Billings (1818 - 1885)

In taking revenge, a man is but even with his enemy; but in passing it over, he is superior.
- Sir Francis Bacon (1561 - 1626)

That green-blooded son of a *****! It's his revenge for all those arguments he lost.
- Leonard McCoy

regards,
G.

daedalus91
November 25th, 2010, 12:50 PM
To be fair, i would probably drag him back onto the Destiny take him to the gate, shut it down and constantly pull his face in and out of the steam, then open a door put his arm in the doorway close, wait 20 seconds. Open it, then seal him in a room, vent the oxygen, wait 30 seconds, drag him to Brody's brewing lab, pour him in that and throw him back onto the planet... not before shooting him in the leg once. (:

But yeah, not a violent person!

Ser Scot A Ellison
December 3rd, 2010, 09:21 AM
I'd certianly want to kill them. Whether I would is a much harder question. If I was sufficently angry and unable to think clearly, I really might. However, if I have time to think about my action and how empty it would be, I might not. I cannot say for sure.

The Mighty 6 platoon
December 3rd, 2010, 10:45 AM
Simeon's bullet to the head wasn't revenge, it was justice. And frankly I'd do it. In the absence of law or a justice system people have to take matters into their own hands.

garhkal
December 4th, 2010, 12:18 AM
"You have been weight, you have been measured. And you most definitely been found wanting"

Gurluas
December 5th, 2010, 05:07 PM
Hurting him would serve no point. A better solution would be to extract whatever he hold using a Tok'ra memory device(By sending him on earth with the stones) then dump him off on a random planet.

garhkal
December 6th, 2010, 02:01 AM
Would that memory device even work? Or would it just show what is in the "Hosts" body's mind'??

Matt G
December 11th, 2010, 01:25 PM
It takes one hell of a lot for me to hold a grudge and therefore there are very few people in this reality I hold a grudge against but once I hold a grudge it takes one hell of a lot for me to drop one.

Would I attempt revenge if someone killed/hurt someone I cared about? Depends what I felt I was capable of. I'd certainly try to get even in 'some' way.