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Generic Blue
November 16th, 2010, 11:21 PM
For a moment there i thought rush was going to leave the bomb on park so he would have more time to catch simeon, im one of the people who doesnt mind shows going super dark, but that would have been crazy, the entire time i was like USE YOUR GLASSES.

morbosfist
November 16th, 2010, 11:23 PM
That's the point. When Rush stands there staring for a sec, you think "He's not going to leave her, is he?" It's a great way of showing how Rush is slowly changing.

Selene1212
November 16th, 2010, 11:24 PM
I think Rush proved he was not a coward tonight.

Generic Blue
November 16th, 2010, 11:26 PM
That's the point. When Rush stands there staring for a sec, you think "He's not going to leave her, is he?" It's a great way of showing how Rush is slowly changing.

i know why they did it, and they did it perfect because i thought he was going to do it, knowing rush.

Avenger
November 16th, 2010, 11:31 PM
I never really doubted that Rush would save Park. Sure, you can say that he's been a cold, heartless ******* thus far, but this was the first time he was face to face with someone who had a very high chance of dying. I think it was far easier for Rush to detach and talk about sacrificing someone else for the greater good when not face to face with the person being sacrificed.

cheezegr8r
November 16th, 2010, 11:45 PM
well Rush is like the best schitzophrenic character. one episode I love the guy, the next episode I think he's pure evil. If he hadn't have been yelling the Sgt wouldn't have gotten shot. and I really Like the Sgt! I have to say though that rush seems to be the most self absorbed person on the ship. Bar None.

Ouroboros
November 17th, 2010, 01:44 AM
I love how the show shows us that he does have great reserves of courage, bravery and honor, and is generally a pretty bad ass guy. He just loathes Young and all his toy soldiers so much that he'll never be that guy for him, or when he's ordered to, but he will be that guy when he's the only one who can save an innocent woman from being blown to pieces in rather nasty fashion.

This episode probably finally put him over the top to being my favorite character in the entire franchise.

mi_guard
November 17th, 2010, 02:47 AM
I think Rush proved he was not a coward tonight.

not only not a coward but he has a heart :)

Go Rush go!

Oreol
November 17th, 2010, 03:39 AM
I think Rush proved he was not a coward tonight.

He has proved that many times in the past. In 'Time', he jumped through the gate - the connection was unstable, and ultimately it killed him. Even in 'Air part 1' he was not the last to set foot on the Destiny. It could have killed him as well. Oh, he killed an alien with his bare hands! Also he took his name out of the lottery in the episode 'Light'...

The man is not a coward at all. Telford and Young are wrong to think Rush was afraid to sit on the chair. Rush simply thinks he's more valuable than other people.

blueintegraboy
November 17th, 2010, 06:05 AM
On another note, the last scene was ingenious.

Once I knew Rush saw the herd of those creatures he was going to create a stampede. Then walking over to Simeon's mangled body and put a pullet in his head.

Girlbot
November 17th, 2010, 06:06 AM
Not a big Rush fan myself, but this ep, he was watchworthy.

icsteffi
November 17th, 2010, 06:21 AM
He has proved that many times in the past. In 'Time', he jumped through the gate - the connection was unstable, and ultimately it killed him. Even in 'Air part 1' he was not the last to set foot on the Destiny. It could have killed him as well. Oh, he killed an alien with his bare hands! Also he took his name out of the lottery in the episode 'Light'...

The man is not a coward at all. Telford and Young are wrong to think Rush was afraid to sit on the chair. Rush simply thinks he's more valuable than other people.

I don't want to count the number of times he's showed cowardice....cause I think it would be a lot more. I like Rush a lot. But I do want to say one thing, because this was one of the worst Rush moments for me......

When he took his name out of the lottery..........that was not courage. That was evil. He should have told those people on the shuttle that he had an inkling that destiny would make it through the sun. What if the shuttle had not been in range anymore? I remember commenting on this before, but I never went back enough to check how popular opinion came down on this point.

...but do you guys really think that Rush took his name out because he is fundamentally good?

I've only started to like him after I realized he was in love with Mandy. People in love are just better. :D Thats why I'm a b**** myself ;) ;) ;)

Oreol
November 17th, 2010, 06:33 AM
I don't want to count the number of times he's showed cowardice

Please, count a few.


...he had an inkling that destiny would make it through the sun.

What makes us think so?

icsteffi
November 17th, 2010, 06:45 AM
Did anyone think that the thing on Park's back was one of those PAST CHOICE ALTERING BUGS from Doctor Who???!!! Park acted exactly like Donna Noble. :D Sorry to those that don't watch Doctor Who. That sorry is on so many levels..... ;)

icsteffi
November 17th, 2010, 06:54 AM
By the way, I totally support what Rush did. It weird because I am anti-capital punishment. But man, I would have done the same thing.

Gurluas
November 17th, 2010, 06:57 AM
Capital punishment is only wrong in a society where a worse punishment is viable.
They cant keep him locked up in Destiny forever.

icsteffi
November 17th, 2010, 07:12 AM
Please, count a few.



What makes us think so?

Without watching the episodes again. 1. Why did Rush risk all their lives by dialing the 9th cheveron rather than home. I just don't buy the "earth might have blown up" thing. 2. Rush framed Young for Murder. 3. Rush puts Franklin in the chair before himself. 4. Rush incites a coup. 5. Rush lies about the bridge for a long time. 6. Rush lets Chloe be blamed for his crap (her in the corridor rather than him in the bridge).

Okay, I like Rush, a lot. But you really think that he has been written as a courageous and likable character? I LOVED him from the get-go because I LOVE Robert Carlyle, but the writers give us a reason every episode to hate him. If you don't agree, then I respect that. But in my opinion, he is only NOW turning into a hero. <3

P.S. That episode is on a hard drive in my closet, and its midnight here. I'll get back to you on that. My friend "Oreol"...you are noted, and I WILL get back to you on that. :D Bug me in a few days if I don't. But while I'm at that....anyone else want to side with me on his leaving his name out of the lottery being selfish?????? :D

jelgate
November 17th, 2010, 08:25 AM
People know I'm not the biggest Rush supporter and even I say he isn't a coward. Selfish would be a more accurate definition. Normally he only cares about his own desires

Kaiphantom
November 17th, 2010, 09:48 AM
Without watching the episodes again. 1. Why did Rush risk all their lives by dialing the 9th cheveron rather than home. I just don't buy the "earth might have blown up" thing. 2. Rush framed Young for Murder. 3. Rush puts Franklin in the chair before himself. 4. Rush incites a coup. 5. Rush lies about the bridge for a long time. 6. Rush lets Chloe be blamed for his crap (her in the corridor rather than him in the bridge).

1. I'll give you that. He could have dialed another planet. But that's not cowardice.
2. Because Young wouldn't allow anyone to volunteer to sit in the chair, nor give him control of the science team to full study it. As we've seen, Rush was ultimately right.
3. Rush didn't put Franklin in that chair. That was something Franklin chose to do. Even if we accept your theory, you have no proof, and I'd advise you of accusing someone of something without evidence, unless you want people to do the same to you.
4. Rush helped, but he wasn't the only one. Wray and the rest of the civilians wanted it. In fact, it looks like Wray approached Rush about it.
5. Perhaps, but his reasoning was sound. A lot of complicated stuff, and he wanted to understand it before everyone else got up there and started pushing buttons. Quite similar to the robot they found earlier.
6. How do you know Chloe didn't have an effect? She had been fiddling with things for quite awhile during her blackouts.

But ultimately, none of this answers the question you were asked: What makes you think Rush knew that Destiny was going to recharge in the sun? We had no proof of it. At best, Rush could only have possibly wondered, but even he wouldn't have known. Hell, if he did think the ship was going to make it, he never would have allowed people and supplies to leave the ship.


P.S. That episode is on a hard drive in my closet, and its midnight here. I'll get back to you on that. My friend "Oreol"...you are noted, and I WILL get back to you on that. :D Bug me in a few days if I don't. But while I'm at that....anyone else want to side with me on his leaving his name out of the lottery being selfish?????? :D

Sorry, you aren't going to get anyone else siding with you on that. Given the choice of life or death, where only a limited number can survive, everyone else is going to tell you that giving up your spot to live to someone else, isn't selfish at all. There are quite a few things you can ding Rush for; this ain't one of them.

Oreol
November 17th, 2010, 10:48 AM
1. Why did Rush risk all their lives by dialing the 9th cheveron rather than home.

Because he was brave to do so (he could have died with the others) and believed it was his destiny to complete his work. Nothing to do with cowardice.


2. Rush framed Young for Murder.

It makes him a mephistophelean jerk, not a coward.


3. Rush puts Franklin in the chair before himself.

Are we watching the same show? It never happened. It was Franklin 's own decision - he even tricked Eli to leave the room. Rush may have mislead Franklin, but it doesn't mean Rush is a coward.


5. Rush lies about the bridge for a long time.

And it makes him a coward? He had reasons to do so.


6. Rush lets Chloe be blamed for his crap (her in the corridor rather than him in the bridge).

It has nothing to do with him being a coward. He wanted to keep the bridge a secret. Also, he was right about Chloe - she is kinda dangerous as seen in the latest episode.


But you really think that he has been written as a courageous and likable character

He may not be likable, but he's not a coward. I pointed some of his heroic acts (especially in Malice, Time, and Light). On the other hand, you didn't prove your point.
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As long as it servers the greater good, Rush can be insanely brave. Even Eli noticed that in 'Time': You are insane. You are! (when Rush rushed to the gate after the creatures attacked)

spaceship
November 17th, 2010, 11:00 AM
Rush had no choice but to disarm the bomb on Park. Their was talk of a proximity sensor. Once he had gotten close he couldn't run away without setting off the bomb. So the safer choice was to disarm it first.

Pecisk
November 17th, 2010, 11:02 AM
Rush is simply arrogant, but really not a coward. In fact, in first series his character is defined as survivalist - he made it trough poor family, without support of any kind, only using his brain. So yes, survivalists tend to trust only themselves and see others as untrustworthy at best, enemies at worst. That's how they survive.

I think with LA attack and events of first part of this session he starts to understand that he simply can't do this on his own, that he has to trust others - otherwise he will get nowhere with discovering details of Destiny mission, ship itself, etc.

I know this kind of character development is kinda hard to grasp after rather simplistic SG-1/SGA heroes, but it really makes Rush interesting to watch. Yes, he is our antihero, unlikely leader who don't trust anyone, but in same time choose to start to.

Aurora24
November 17th, 2010, 11:39 AM
I wouldn't call Rush a coward, rather he is someone who can be extremely selfish and obssessive. He puts the mission ahead of everything else, even the lives of the crew when he thinks it is necessary. He also refuses to trust anyone on the ship, although now that he's lost the one person he did trust it may force him to open up to the crew about what he's doing, especially now that everyone knows about the bridge.

Staying with Park was brave, because when he thought he couldn't disarm it, he could have run behind one of the rock outcroppings and hoped for the best. Instead he chose to stay with her. Perhaps this will be another moment that will force him to re-evaluate how he thinks of the people around him. It's easier in a way to send someone into a dangerous situation (like Riley in the shuttle crash) or leave someone behind (like Telford) when you aren't physically there to see it happen. Being faced with Park standing right there with a bomb strapped to her back, it would be a lot harder to abandon her. If Rush had left her I would have lost all respect for the character. I've been a Rush defender from the beginning, although he lost a lot of my respect when he tried to blackmail Chloe into helping him. Hopefully now he'll start to realize he can't do things alone and that he has to work with the rest of the crew.

Galileo_Galilee
November 17th, 2010, 11:43 AM
That character reminds me of these lyrics:


A modern-day warrior
Mean mean stride
Today's Tom Sawyer
Mean mean pride

Though his mind is not for rent
Don't put him down as arrogant
His reserve, a quiet defense
Riding out the day's events
The river

What you say about his company
Is what you say about society
Catch the mist, catch the myth
Catch the mystery, catch the drift

The world is, the world is
Love and life are deep
Maybe as his skies are wide

Today's Tom Sawyer
He gets high on you
And the space he invades
He gets by on you

No his mind is not for rent
To any God or government
Always hopeful, yet discontent
He knows changes aren't permanent
But change is

And what you say about his company
Is what you say about society
Catch the witness, catch the wit
Catch the spirit, catch the spit

The world is, the world is
Love and life are deep
Maybe as his eyes are wide

Exit the warrior
Today's Tom Tawyer
He gets high on you
And the energy you trade
He gets right on to the friction of the day

From the song Tom Sayer from.... Rush.

Ouroboros
November 17th, 2010, 01:12 PM
Another thing I really like about Rush is that he's the only one among the whole cast who seems to actually appreciate what fate (or Destiny if you prefer) has handed him. Everyone else would jump ship back for Earth tomorrow if they could but Rush would almost certainly rather be on Destiny exploring the universe.

It's what lets him connect with me as a character because this would be me. Why rush back to some boring hum drum existence on an overcrowded planet to live out the rest of your life as an unappreciated an unremembered social drone when you can experience something the human race has only dreamed about since the first caveman looked up at the night sky.

Sure it would be nice to go home again someday, but not if it meant I could never go back up, as it most certainly would for him.

aretood2
November 17th, 2010, 01:12 PM
On another note, the last scene was ingenious.

Once I knew Rush saw the herd of those creatures he was going to create a stampede. Then walking over to Simeon's mangled body and put a pullet in his head.

Same here :D. I actually liked him in this episode...and is it wrong that I smiled when he started to cry because it's his fault that Perry died? Had he not been secretive about the Bridge, she would have never been there at all. Though I am quite sad that it cost Perry her life :(

jelgate
November 17th, 2010, 01:34 PM
Another thing I really like about Rush is that he's the only one among the whole cast who seems to actually appreciate what fate (or Destiny if you prefer) has handed him. Everyone else would jump ship back for Earth tomorrow if they could but Rush would almost certainly rather be on Destiny exploring the universe.

It's what lets him connect with me as a character because this would be me. Why rush back to some boring hum drum existence on an overcrowded planet to live out the rest of your life as an unappreciated an unremembered social drone when you can experience something the human race has only dreamed about since the first caveman looked up at the night sky.

Sure it would be nice to go home again someday, but not if it meant I could never go back up, as it most certainly would for him.

To go back to their loved ones on Earth. The difference between Rush and everyone else is Rush has lost most of the people he cares about

Girlbot
November 17th, 2010, 01:35 PM
To go back to their loved ones on Earth. The difference between Rush and everyone else is Rush has lost most of the people he cares about

I think with Amanda gone, he's lost everyone now.

pipi
November 18th, 2010, 01:51 AM
If Destiny ever needs an executioner, then Rush is your man!

Whitering
November 18th, 2010, 01:57 AM
Well, I like Rush a lot, but let's not forget with regards to saving Park...

1) He was on candid camera at the time, and he knew it.

2) Park is a civilian and a scientist, I wonder what he would have done if that was Young or some other meat head that had pissed him off in the past.

Well, we have an answer to what happens when one person dies on the stones. Killing Ginn to protect Chloe as the hottie. I found Ginn to be better looking and more fun to watch on screen. Way to go TPTB! Can't have Eli be happy either.

Don't know what will happen with Rush now, maybe him and Young will switch places with Rush being the one that doesn't want to bother getting out of bed.

icsteffi
November 18th, 2010, 02:17 AM
But ultimately, none of this answers the question you were asked: What makes you think Rush knew that Destiny was going to recharge in the sun? We had no proof of it. At best, Rush could only have possibly wondered, but even he wouldn't have known. Hell, if he did think the ship was going to make it, he never would have allowed people and supplies to leave the ship.



Sorry, you aren't going to get anyone else siding with you on that. Given the choice of life or death, where only a limited number can survive, everyone else is going to tell you that giving up your spot to live to someone else, isn't selfish at all. There are quite a few things you can ding Rush for; this ain't one of them.

haha I'm not trying to get out of anything...I'm just super super busy over here. I'm willing too accept defeat in the general matter. I think I did confuse cowardice with selfishness.

But on the LIGHT point. There is a thread with 255 responses over in the LIGHT discussion....all about this. It's not cut and dry. I just believe that he would not have given up his seat if he thought that it really meant the end of him. There are people that would feel the same inkling as me, even without any proof. We've never really gotten any PROOF of anything, which is great. It makes us think. And discuss. :D Fun!

Go check out the discussions in Light.... specifically the one titled "Rush". Yeah, more people are on the side that Rush had no idea. But I'm certainly not alone. example. Replicator Todd: "Oh yes, I truly do believe he knew. Especially when Eli showed them the Destiny with the Kino." More people sort of sway to "he had an idea, but didn't know." Still one person, I have! :D

icsteffi
November 18th, 2010, 02:27 AM
Well, I like Rush a lot, but let's not forget with regards to saving Park...

1) He was on candid camera at the time, and he knew it.

2) Park is a civilian and a scientist, I wonder what he would have done if that was Young or some other meat head that had pissed him off in the past.

Well, we have an answer to what happens when one person dies on the stones. Killing Ginn to protect Chloe as the hottie. I found Ginn to be better looking and more fun to watch on screen. Way to go TPTB! Can't have Eli be happy either.

Don't know what will happen with Rush now, maybe him and Young will switch places with Rush being the one that doesn't want to bother getting out of bed.

I think that he would have saved Park, camera or not. Rush is changing as a person, and I like the nice Rush more. :) I hope that he continues his fight, and doesn't let his grief get the best of him.

Anyways, us having the answer is cool. I just wish the answer didn't have to come with those deaths. That was the first time in SGU that I had full on tears. I cried a bit when Telford got left behind. And when Riley died. But this one induced the BIG FAT water balls gushing out of my eyes.

garhkal
November 18th, 2010, 04:28 AM
I think Rush proved he was not a coward tonight.

I loved how calm he was when doing it.. and how much regret it seemed he had in his voice he could not defuse it (until he realized his glasses woudl help)..


Once I knew Rush saw the herd of those creatures he was going to create a stampede. Then walking over to Simeon's mangled body and put a pullet in his head.


I just loved how he used the last of the C4 he brought to cause it...


When he took his name out of the lottery..........that was not courage. That was evil. He should have told those people on the shuttle that he had an inkling that destiny would make it through the sun.

How was that cowardly/evil? HELL he even looked shocked and surprised that it did survive..


Capital punishment is only wrong in a society where a worse punishment is viable.

And as Rush did say to the rest "Do you honestly think he will tell you squat about what you want to know".


1. Why did Rush risk all their lives by dialing the 9th cheveron rather than home. I just don't buy the "earth might have blown up" thing. 2. Rush framed Young for Murder. 3. Rush puts Franklin in the chair before himself. 4. Rush incites a coup. 5. Rush lies about the bridge for a long time. 6. Rush lets Chloe be blamed for his crap (her in the corridor rather than him in the bridge).


1_) was not him being cowardly. STUIPID. yes. Greedy and egotistical. HELL YES. Cowardly. No'
2) Same. How is framing someone else for murder in anyway cowardly?
3) HOW did he put franklin in the chair? YES he may have put it in franklins mind someone needs to sit in it. BUT he did not force him or coerce him in any way.
4) In that case so was wray being a coward.
5) This is more of his egotisticalness. Again no cowardice.
6) This is the only one i can think applies.


If Rush had left her I would have lost all respect for the character. I've been a Rush defender from the beginning, although he lost a lot of my respect when he tried to blackmail Chloe into helping him. Hopefully now he'll start to realize he can't do things alone and that he has to work with the rest of the crew.

He would have droped a heck of alot with me too.


1) He was on candid camera at the time, and he knew it.

He was already in process of disarming it when the Kino came through.

cnnrstrav
November 18th, 2010, 10:56 AM
Rush was so supergenius-bipolar-gangsta in this episode! It's like we saw every side of him imaginable in less than 40 minutes. I can totally see him leading a gang now, and turning it into a paramilitary mega-corporation. And I laugh every time he lies now! Everyone is like, "Come on Rush! We know you're lying!"

Kaiphantom
November 18th, 2010, 11:47 AM
We've never really gotten any PROOF of anything, which is great. It makes us think. And discuss.

Unfortunately, without proof, one just ends up looking silly. Kinda like the Flat Earth Society, or the creationists that insist the Earth is only 6,000 years old.

See, the major proof is that Rush knows he needs people and supplies. If he knew, he never would have let them go, because there would be no guarantee of getting them back. If he knew, you'd have to furnish a reason of "why didn't he say anything?" and so far, there has been no plausible reasons. The best one is "To furnish a disaster he could save people from" but he had no way of knowing he could save the shuttle people. Indeed, he almost might not have, if Eli hadn't done the equations so fast.

In short, if he was trying to manipulate things, he was an extremely bad one, which kinda nullifies the idea.

Extraordinary claims, require extraordinary proof. Otherwise I could make up some stuff about you, and if you try to say differently, "Well of course I have no proof, but isn't it GREAT? It makes us think. And discuss how horrible of a person you might be!"

icsteffi
November 19th, 2010, 04:32 PM
I think that Rush was not a good guy, but that he has slowly been turning into one. That is all.

I have never jumped on anyone like I am being jumped on now. Its just a show. A freaking good show. If we can't just have fun talking, then that is a shame. Feel free to discuss what a horrible person I might be. You don't need extraordinary proof to have an opinion that I'm a horrible person... but I certainly don't think that it would be as interesting to discuss as discussing what a horrible person Rush might be/have BEEN. I like the character. He is awesome. He's has made me uneasy a lot. I now think that he is a genuinely good guy. If you wanna keep fighting about this, go back and fight about it in the "Light" thread. Arguments there include that Rush hated Greer with a passion back then, and he wanted him on the shuttle.

:) Or here, whatever, I'm easy! But just remember that I already admitted I was wrong about Rush being cowardly in the past. It was never cowardice.

garhkal
November 20th, 2010, 03:36 AM
Someone on a battletech related site (classicbattletech forums) said of rush.

Killing simeon. Good rush
Killing simeon so we don't get info that could save lives. Bad rush..

xxxevilgrinxxx
November 22nd, 2010, 04:59 PM
I think that Rush was not a good guy, but that he has slowly been turning into one. That is all.

I have never jumped on anyone like I am being jumped on now. Its just a show. A freaking good show. If we can't just have fun talking, then that is a shame. Feel free to discuss what a horrible person I might be. You don't need extraordinary proof to have an opinion that I'm a horrible person... but I certainly don't think that it would be as interesting to discuss as discussing what a horrible person Rush might be/have BEEN. I like the character. He is awesome. He's has made me uneasy a lot. I now think that he is a genuinely good guy. If you wanna keep fighting about this, go back and fight about it in the "Light" thread. Arguments there include that Rush hated Greer with a passion back then, and he wanted him on the shuttle.

:) Or here, whatever, I'm easy! But just remember that I already admitted I was wrong about Rush being cowardly in the past. It was never cowardice.

There are no good guys or bad guys in SGU and that's a good thing. Rush is not a good guy because no one is. He's done some really rotten things and some good things and no one should be jumping all over you for it so no, you're not a horrible person and yes, talking about Rush's actions are far more interesting. Cowardice is a tricky word. He's done some things that would make him a coward. Or just smart enough not to do something stupid with his life. Maybe risking someone else's life is just easier. It comes down to a matter of perception. I think he's been a coward on occasion. I also think he's been brave on occasion. Sort of like everybody.

All I can say is - use the ignore function. It really is your friend :)

Icarium
November 23rd, 2010, 05:00 AM
For a moment there i thought rush was going to leave the bomb on park so he would have more time to catch simeon.

I was wondering that too.

I was under the impression that at the beginning of this episode Rush really forgot about everything. He decided to help Park but when he couldn't, he didn't leave her. I thought maybe it was because he felt guilty of Mandy's death. He initially was like 'I'll kill Simeon or he'll kill me, I don't care'. Maybe he even was willing to die. That makes me wonder if Rush's radio was still working when Simeon was giving his speech...

icsteffi
November 23rd, 2010, 06:24 AM
There are no good guys or bad guys in SGU and that's a good thing. Rush is not a good guy because no one is. He's done some really rotten things and some good things and no one should be jumping all over you for it so no, you're not a horrible person and yes, talking about Rush's actions are far more interesting. Cowardice is a tricky word. He's done some things that would make him a coward. Or just smart enough not to do something stupid with his life. Maybe risking someone else's life is just easier. It comes down to a matter of perception. I think he's been a coward on occasion. I also think he's been brave on occasion. Sort of like everybody.

All I can say is - use the ignore function. It really is your friend :)

Yes! I agree that SGU is not as cut and dry as other shows (i.e. SG1/SGU....) This is what I loved about Battlestar. EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER I hated at one point and loved at one point. I don't think that anyone was immune to my condemnation. :D Hope that comment doesn't annoy anyone, because I am not saying that SGU is just a Gate-version of Battlestar. SGU is unique and wonderful. I love what they are doing with it.

And if anyone IS ANNOYED by this....I will try to invoke my 'ignore function'. :D

Everything I said aside---Eli can do NO evil ever. ;)

garhkal
November 24th, 2010, 05:52 AM
I was wondering that too.

I was under the impression that at the beginning of this episode Rush really forgot about everything. He decided to help Park but when he couldn't, he didn't leave her. I thought maybe it was because he felt guilty of Mandy's death. He initially was like 'I'll kill Simeon or he'll kill me, I don't care'. Maybe he even was willing to die. That makes me wonder if Rush's radio was still working when Simeon was giving his speech...

I think it was, which helped push rush to want to kill him quick.