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morbosfist
November 16th, 2010, 08:03 PM
So, we learn this time around that not only could Rush never change the clock, he could never stop it, nor ever change Destiny's course in any significant way. But now apparently we can. Looks like Rush hasn't had as much ability to save the people from previous episodes as may have been believed.

But now it makes you wonder, will they use this much in the future?

Hmm, maybe should have named this something else in hindsight, oh well.

Kaiphantom
November 16th, 2010, 08:12 PM
Good point. He didn't have as much control as people believed, if it required Chloe to turn it around.

AquaGamer53
November 16th, 2010, 08:25 PM
All they have mentioned about Rush's control of the ship was that he managed to get Destiny to drop out of FTL and make some minor turns, which I think was mentioned in the last couple of episodes. Everyone was commenting on how annoying it was. Even then, he was feeding equations to Chloe, so how much he did himself is not clear.

James71
November 16th, 2010, 09:11 PM
All they have mentioned about Rush's control of the ship was that he managed to get Destiny to drop out of FTL and make some minor turns,

It looks like the turning that was happening in sublight ("The Greater Good") had zero impact on the default FTL course that Destiny is on. So even though Rush had control with thrusters while not in FTL, it ultimately had zero impact on the ability to guide the course.

So going back for Telford was never an available option for Rush.
However, now that they can control the FTL flight path, going back for Telford should be on the table.

kcatlantis
November 16th, 2010, 09:18 PM
Does this mean they are still on the relative same course, or is it drastically changed?

morbosfist
November 16th, 2010, 09:24 PM
Same course, they just doubled back.

cheezegr8r
November 16th, 2010, 10:48 PM
I have to ask why the ancients would make controling the ship so flippin hard! I mean apparently you need to be a theoriectical physist just to turn the ship around. You'd think there'd be a button that says "turn Left" and one that says "Turn right". only it'd be in ancient.

BRiDGELiFE
November 16th, 2010, 11:01 PM
I have to ask why the ancients would make controling the ship so flippin hard! I mean apparently you need to be a theoriectical physist just to turn the ship around. You'd think there'd be a button that says "turn Left" and one that says "Turn right". only it'd be in ancient.

YEA...... If Scott and Shepard and O'Neill were expected to be the only ones on board...... Maybe a better example: Ronan Dex trying to fly the Destiny, LOL!!!!!!

Aewon
November 16th, 2010, 11:03 PM
Maybe to make sure only Ancients could fly it? Anyway...


So going back for Telford was never an available option for Rush.
However, now that they can control the FTL flight path, going back for Telford should be on the table.

I think that would be like looking for a needle in a very large haystack. Remember, they left him on a ship with its own FTL capability. They don't even know where the seeder ship is now!

Spimman
November 17th, 2010, 04:27 AM
Well I think they used the research and progress Rush had already made, plus the 3 guys and Chloe to figure it out. It's amazing what can happen when you have some help!

xxxevilgrinxxx
November 17th, 2010, 05:48 AM
Does this mean they are still on the relative same course, or is it drastically changed?
I kind of like that they can't enact such a drastic change :)

randomking
November 17th, 2010, 06:01 AM
YEA...... If Scott and Shepard and O'Neill were expected to be the only ones on board...... Maybe a better example: Ronan Dex trying to fly the Destiny, LOL!!!!!!

they maid it so hard becuse destiny is not supost to go back...they wanted it to reach its gole as soon as it could...and turning around is never a veary good move

Egle01
November 17th, 2010, 11:26 AM
Maybe a better example: Ronan Dex trying to fly the Destiny, LOL!!!!!!*imagines Ronon hitting the consoles like he did in "The Daedalus Variations"* Awesome! :D

Pond Hopper
November 17th, 2010, 01:06 PM
Remember, they left him on a ship with its own FTL capability. They don't even know where the seeder ship is now!

They don't know where the seeder ship is, but Destiny does as it updates it's position while relaying sensor data on planets ahead.

talyn2k1
November 17th, 2010, 01:45 PM
Just because the equations were the only way we could use to access those systems, doesn't mean it is necessarily the easiest way. Hopefully we'll find some easier ways to do these things as time goes by, but not too quickly...

Nth Chevron
November 17th, 2010, 02:45 PM
*cough*

Neural interface chair, anyone?

The chair is the easy way to pilot Destiny as its linked to Ancient physiology, if your not Ancient and you happen upon Destiny, then you have a knackering and annoying time figuring out the algorithms and how to use them to make Destiny do as you want, hopefully either dying or leaving before succeeding in altering Destiny's path, which seems to be the only thing the ship cares about.

N.C

Puddle-Jumper
November 17th, 2010, 03:58 PM
However, now that they can control the FTL flight path, going back for Telford should be on the table.

Heres hoping... I really wanna see how that pans out for Telford

cheezegr8r
November 17th, 2010, 04:53 PM
they maid it so hard becuse destiny is not supost to go back...they wanted it to reach its gole as soon as it could...and turning around is never a veary good move

Always going forward and never going backward will always get you to your destination. Nice.

cheezegr8r
November 17th, 2010, 04:56 PM
*cough*

Neural interface chair, anyone?

The chair is the easy way to pilot Destiny as its linked to Ancient physiology, if your not Ancient and you happen upon Destiny, then you have a knackering and annoying time figuring out the algorithms and how to use them to make Destiny do as you want, hopefully either dying or leaving before succeeding in altering Destiny's path, which seems to be the only thing the ship cares about.

N.C

I'm still not conviced it's a Neural Interface chair. Obviously it lets you tap in to ship systems but with the disappearance of the guy who was injured I'm still leaning toward an early version of an assension device.

norph
November 17th, 2010, 06:25 PM
Same course, they just doubled back.

Was it mention anywhere that they are following the same course? Would be interesting if the alien in Chloe added a hidden subroutine to cause Destiny to backtrack their course. Why chase after Destiny when you can make it come back to you (eventually) especially if the current crew of Destiny have no idea on how to control it's autopilot.

morbosfist
November 17th, 2010, 06:34 PM
They haven't left the planet yet, but they'll know fairly quickly if they go the wrong way.

garhkal
November 18th, 2010, 02:27 AM
So, we learn this time around that not only could Rush never change the clock, he could never stop it, nor ever change Destiny's course in any significant way. But now apparently we can. Looks like Rush hasn't had as much ability to save the people from previous episodes as may have been believed.

But now it makes you wonder, will they use this much in the future?

Hmm, maybe should have named this something else in hindsight, oh well.

Here is hoping people get off the "bash rush" Bandwagon.. but i won't hold my breath on it




Well I think they used the research and progress Rush had already made, plus the 3 guys and Chloe to figure it out. It's amazing what can happen when you have some help!



That it does..


The chair is the easy way to pilot Destiny as its linked to Ancient physiology, if your not Ancient and you happen upon Destiny, then you have a knackering and annoying time figuring out the algorithms and how to use them to make Destiny do as you want, hopefully either dying or leaving before succeeding in altering Destiny's path, which seems to be the only thing the ship cares about.

If that was the case why would rush need to use the chair to then run a program to gain access to the bridge. could he not have just commanded the chair to do it?

jelgate
November 18th, 2010, 05:30 AM
Here is hoping people get off the "bash rush" Bandwagon.. but i won't hold my breath on it



That it does..



If that was the case why would rush need to use the chair to then run a program to gain access to the bridge. could he not have just commanded the chair to do it?

Is it really bashing, when it is Rush's fault? His ablity may have been overstated but its still negligence due to revealing all the necessary information.

spaceship
November 18th, 2010, 06:39 AM
Interesting how they moved the goal post on us. Previously you needed the master key to gain complete control of Destiny. But now that Rush figured that out you need to break Ancient algorithms to get control over specific systems. So they can drag it out as long as they like.

thekillman
November 18th, 2010, 07:01 AM
. But now that Rush figured that out you need to break Ancient algorithms to get control over specific systems.
the ancients were, quite simply, much much smarter than us. besides it's obvious they made it difficult so not every random alien could access the ship.


lastly, it seems that Chloe doesn't seem to have a whole lot of troube doing the math part

pipi
November 19th, 2010, 04:23 PM
Was it mention anywhere that they are following the same course? Would be interesting if the alien in Chloe added a hidden subroutine to cause Destiny to backtrack their course. Why chase after Destiny when you can make it come back to you (eventually) especially if the current crew of Destiny have no idea on how to control it's autopilot.

That is pretty funny. At least they have a chance to save Telford. Hope they fastforward the float across the void.

Kaiphantom
November 19th, 2010, 06:03 PM
Is it really bashing, when it is Rush's fault? His ablity may have been overstated but its still negligence due to revealing all the necessary information.

And who is to say whether it really is negligence, or whether he did the right thing? Tell me honestly (even though you won't), if Rush HAD revealed the bridge early on, and several of the crew ended up dying (more than just Riley) because of it, when you say the crew was negligent?

Just like the robot early on, Rush was the only qualified person to take a look at it, and because of that, they were able to use it to fix the FTL drive.

Perhaps you might give the guy who is smarter than you and everyone else on Destiny, a little credit.

garhkal
November 20th, 2010, 02:42 AM
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themeatcleaver
November 20th, 2010, 10:13 PM
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I would SO join that bank! Free Zat gun with every new checking account!

garhkal
November 22nd, 2010, 01:05 AM
And if you default on a loan, a symbiot in the belly to turn you into a Jaffa, to repay it off

:):):)