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RealmOfX
October 16th, 2010, 04:53 PM
I've started a new thread for Season 3 so that the ongoing stats (Live+SD) can be kept in one place in this first post.

Season 3

.....Total........Total....A18-49....Viewer**...Syfy
Ep...Viewers.....HH..Shr...HH..Shr...Change %...Ratg.
.1 - 1,787,000...1.1..2....0.6..2....+19.7......1.30
.2 - 1,380,000...0.9..2....0.4..1....-22.8......1.06
.3 - 1,479,000...0.9..2....0.4..1.....+7.2......1.06
.4 - 1,257,000...0.8..1....0.4..1....-15.0......0.95
.5 - 1,574,000...1.0..2....0.5..2....+25.2......1.18
.6 - 1,259,000...0.8..2....0.4..1....-20.0......0.95
.7 - 1,483,000...0.9..2....0.4..1....+17.8......1.06
.8 - 1,472,000...0.9..2....0.4..1.....-0.7......1.06
.9 - 1,410,000...0.9..2....0.4..1.....-4.2......1.06
10 - 1,474,000...0.9.......0.4........+4.5......1.06
11 - 1,217,000...0.9..1....0.4..1....-17.4......1.06
12 - 1,424,000...0.9.......0.4.......+17.0......1.06
13 -...868,000...0.6..1....0.2..1....-39.0......0.71
14 -...838,000...0.6..1....0.2..1.... -3.5......0.71
15 -...756,000...0.5..1....0.2..1.....-9.8......0.59
16 -...815,000...0.5..1....0.3..1.....+7.8......0.59
17 -...842,000...0.6..1....0.2..1.....+3.3......0.71
18 -...915,000...0.6..1....0.3..1.....+8.7......0.71
19 - 1,201,000.............0.4.......+31.3
20 - 1,283,000.............0.4........+6.8


** from last ep

Comparison to Syfy Weekly Average Primetime households
................Total.....................A18-49
Week ending..Syfy....Sanctuary..% dif..Syfy....Sanctuary..% dif.
17-Oct-10...859,000..1,274,900..+48.4..D.N.R....695,400
24-Oct-10...875,000..1,043,100..+19.2..594,000..463,600....-22.0
31-Oct-10...925,000..1,043,100..+12.8..631,000..463,600....-26.5
07-Nov-10...754,000....927,200..+23.0..D.N.R....463,600
14-Nov-10...737,000..1,159,000..+57.3..D.N.R....579,500
21-Nov-10...775,000....927,200..+19.6..D.N.R....463,600
28-Nov-10...835,000..1,043,100..+24.9..D.N.R....463,600
05-Dec-10...776,000..1,043,100..+34.4..D.N.R....463,600
12-Dec-10.1,078,000..1,043,100...-3.2..D.N.R....463,600
19-Dec-10...No data..1,043,100.........No data..463,600
17-Apr-11...846,000..1,043,100..+23.3..D.N.R....463,600
24-Apr-11...774,000..1,043,100..+34.8..D.N.R....463,600
01-May-11...780,000....695,400..-10.8..D.N.R....231,800

D.N.R. = did not rank in Top 10

Comparison to Syfy Weekly Average Primetime viewers
................Total
Week ending..Syfy....Sanctuary..% dif
17-Oct-10...No data..1,787,000
24-Oct-10 1,218,000..1,380,000..+13.3
31-Oct-10 1,286,000..1,479,000..+15.0
07-Nov-10 1,042,000..1,257,000..+20.6
14-Nov-10 1,043,000..1,574,000..+50.9
21-Nov-10 1,061,000..1,259,000..+18.7
28-Nov-10 1,192,000..1,483,000..+24.4
05-Dec-10 1,099,000..1,472,000..+33.9
12-Dec-10 1,471,000..1,410,000...-4.1
19-Dec-10 1,324,000..1,474,000..+11.3
17-Apr-11 1,098,000..1,217,000..+10.8
24-Apr-11 1,069,000..1,424,000..+33.2
01-May-11 1,052,000....868,000..-17.5



S3 averages (to date) -
Total viewers - 1,280,813
National HH ratings : Total - 0.8, A18-49 - 0.4
Total Households - 948,931
A18-49 Households - 434,625


HH - National Household Rating
SHR - Share
Syfy Ratg. - Syfy Household Rating

RealmOfX
October 16th, 2010, 05:06 PM
Oooops hit the post limit so I'm splitting the ratings history :

Season 2

S2 averages -
Total viewers - 1,533,583
National HH ratings : Total - 1.0, A18-49 - 0.5
Total Households - 1,149,000
A18-49 Households - 564,925

.....Total........Total....A18-49....Viewer**...Syfy
Ep...Viewers.....HH..Shr...HH..Shr...Change %...Ratg.
.1 - 1,850,000...1.2..2....0.7..2.....-7.0......1.43
.2 - 1,766,000...1.1..2....0.6..2.....-4.5......1.31
.3 - 1,694,000...1.1..2....0.5..2.....-4.1......1.31
.4 - 1,606,000...1.1..2....0.5..2.....-5.2......1.31
.5 - 1,420,000...1.0..2....0.5..2....-11.6......1.19
.6 - 1,661,000...1.0..2....0.6..2.....17.0......1.19
.7 - 1,439,000...0.9..2....0.5..2....-13.4......1.07
.8 - 1,328,000...0.9..2....0.4..1.....-7.7......1.07
.9 - 1,366,000...0.9.......0.4.........2.9......1.07
10 - 1,376,000...0.9.......0.4.........0.7......1.07
11 - 1,404,000...0.9..2....0.4..1......2.0......1.07
12 - 1,493,000...1.0..2....0.4..1......6.3......1.19
&13

Season 1

.....Total.......Syfy
Ep...Viewers.....Ratg.
1&2 - 2,700,000..2.2
..3 - ...........1.6
..4 - ...........1.6
..5 - ...........1.4
..6 - ...........1.5
..7 - ...........1.5
..8 - 1,746,000..1.4
..9 - 1,538,000..1.2
.10 - 1,703,000..1.4
.11 - 1,520,000..1.4
.12 - 1,850,000..1.4
.13 - 1,990,000..1.6




HH - National Household Rating
SHR - Share
Syfy Ratg. - Syfy Household Rating

major davis
October 16th, 2010, 05:45 PM
Predictions:

Major Davis - 1.4 million

majorsal
October 16th, 2010, 05:58 PM
I'm hoping Sanctuary manages to keep or up it's ratings from the S2 finale but seeing as it's the third season a 10-20% could be expected IMO.

I don't think the wrestling will impact the show as Haven went marginally up in it's last two episodes (which could be expected from any show approaching the season finale). It's just going to be a long wait until Monday afternoon to get the ratings :S

so it's the wait until monday thinger, eh? :S

though, i suppose, if the numbers were WOW, we'd already have heard about it?... BUT, the numbers could still be good! :p

how's that for a psycho post? :S :p

majorsal
October 16th, 2010, 05:59 PM
Predictions:

Major Davis - 1.4 million
majorsal - 1.3 million


this is the first time i've done something like this... it scares me :S :p

RealmOfX
October 16th, 2010, 06:09 PM
Predictions:

Major Davis - 1.4 million
majorsal - 1.3 million


this is the first time i've done something like this... it scares me :S :p

LOL - I'm not going to predict anything, I don't want to jinx it!!!! :D

majorsal
October 16th, 2010, 06:10 PM
LOL - I'm not going to predict anything, I don't want to jinx it!!!! :D

:S

so if i jinxed it... :S

that means that it'll actually be HIGHER, so fate can teach me a lesson! yes, this is how i'll be punished! :S

:D

major davis
October 16th, 2010, 06:15 PM
Predictions:

Major Davis - 1.4 million
majorsal - 1.3 million


this is the first time i've done something like this... it scares me :S :p

You'll do fine... Its a fun game... even if half the time you don't use logical reasoning and just pull a number out of your a**! :eek:

Thats what I do half the time lol.

jelgate
October 16th, 2010, 07:48 PM
1.3 million

Inquisitor
October 16th, 2010, 09:36 PM
3 million, I can dream, can't I?

jelgate
October 16th, 2010, 09:51 PM
3 million, I can dream, can't I?

Considering even W13 (probably SyFy's most popular script show) has only got 3 million once yeah I think you can dream:P

Briangate78
October 17th, 2010, 06:12 AM
My prediction:

1.6 Million viewers and a 1.2 HH rating.

Carterfan
October 17th, 2010, 09:00 AM
My prediction:

1.6 Million viewers and a 1.2 HH rating.


Briangate, you really think so? I hope you're close, but I'm a bit pessimistic and hope dearly that I'm wrong. There seems to be next to no buzz on Sanctuary, and despite all the buzz on SGU and Caprica, they both premiered to less than expected ratings. The forum for Sanctuary at SyFy is practically dead and this forum isn't as lively as last season, but then, I'm only just resurfacing now. I'm just worried. I'm just hoping that maybe Sanctuary viewers are more likely to watch and forget about it until the next show, not really big on going on-line to discuss and such.

I'm hoping that Sanctuary might pick up on some Haven fans as its in the same time slot.

Braingate, RealmofOx, you guys seem to know a lot about ratings, so I'm going to squelch that pessimism and pray for good ratings for this show.

Briangate78
October 17th, 2010, 09:11 AM
Briangate, you really think so? I hope you're close, but I'm a bit pessimistic and hope dearly that I'm wrong. There seems to be next to no buzz on Sanctuary, and despite all the buzz on SGU and Caprica, they both premiered to less than expected ratings. The forum for Sanctuary at SyFy is practically dead and this forum isn't as lively as last season, but then, I'm only just resurfacing now. I'm just worried. I'm just hoping that maybe Sanctuary viewers are more likely to watch and forget about it until the next show, not really big on going on-line to discuss and such.

I'm hoping that Sanctuary might pick up on some Haven fans as its in the same time slot.

Braingate, RealmofOx, you guys seem to know a lot about ratings, so I'm going to squelch that pessimism and pray for good ratings for this show.

The W13 and Eureka forums have been pretty dead also, even when the show was airing. Not all shows attract a large internet fanbase.

hedwig
October 17th, 2010, 09:17 AM
:S

so if i jinxed it... :S

that means that it'll actually be HIGHER, so fate can teach me a lesson! yes, this is how i'll be punished! :S

:D

I'm going with 1.5 million. :)

Carterfan
October 17th, 2010, 09:27 AM
The W13 and Eureka forums have been pretty dead also, even when the show was airing. Not all shows attract a large internet fanbase.

That actually makes me feel better. Thanks mate. :)

Rocky89
October 17th, 2010, 11:08 AM
That actually makes me feel better. Thanks mate. :)

I'm not sure if you use twitter, but the week of it's premiere a lot people talked a lot about it, and how much the love it, and why. In fact, the day of it's premiere, twitter was going crazy with many things Sanctuary, fans talking about their excitement, news articles and reviews talking about the anticipation of the shows return, and more. Just because GW and the Syfy forum may be a little quite, doesn't mean fans aren't going crazy with excitement elsewhere, twitter is a great example of that, or they could be having a party or something amongst themselves. :) You just need to know where to look. ;)

Carterfan
October 17th, 2010, 12:21 PM
I'm not sure if you use twitter, but the week of it's premiere a lot people talked a lot about it, and how much the love it, and why. In fact, the day of it's premiere, twitter was going crazy with many things Sanctuary, fans talking about their excitement, news articles and reviews talking about the anticipation of the shows return, and more. Just because GW and the Syfy forum may be a little quite, doesn't mean fans aren't going crazy with excitement elsewhere, twitter is a great example of that, or they could be having a party or something amongst themselves. :) You just need to know where to look. ;)

Thanks, thats good to know. I've haven't been able to spend a lot of time online, but make an effort for Sanctuary, wanting to know how the show is perceived, and I've never been able to log in at SFA despite registering so have given up.

majorsal
October 17th, 2010, 01:08 PM
3 million, I can dream, can't I?

:lol:

majorsal
October 17th, 2010, 01:12 PM
adding predictions -


Predictions:

Major Davis - 1.4 million
majorsal - 1.3 million
jelgate - 1.3 million
Inquisitor - 3 million
Briangate78 - 1.6 million, with 1.2 HH
hedwig - 1.5 million

majorsal
October 17th, 2010, 01:13 PM
The W13 and Eureka forums have been pretty dead also, even when the show was airing. Not all shows attract a large internet fanbase.


That actually makes me feel better. Thanks mate. :)

makes me feel better too. :p

siles
October 18th, 2010, 08:41 AM
adding predictions -


Predictions:

Major Davis - 1.4 million
majorsal - 1.3 million
jelgate - 1.3 million
Inquisitor - 3 million
Briangate78 - 1.6 million, with 1.2 HH
hedwig - 1.5 million

My prediction - 1,7 million (I think wrestling lead-in might help)

NoCleverSig
October 18th, 2010, 09:49 AM
I'm not sure if you use twitter, but the week of it's premiere a lot people talked a lot about it, and how much the love it, and why. In fact, the day of it's premiere, twitter was going crazy with many things Sanctuary, fans talking about their excitement, news articles and reviews talking about the anticipation of the shows return, and more. Just because GW and the Syfy forum may be a little quite, doesn't mean fans aren't going crazy with excitement elsewhere, twitter is a great example of that, or they could be having a party or something amongst themselves. :) You just need to know where to look. ;)

Well, I twitter constantly with Sanctuary fans and yes, we were having a little party amongst ourselves, but there did seem to be a lot of chatter following #Sanctuary.

Someone give me an idea as to what would be considered "low/medium/high" or some such scale so I can get a sense of what the numbers mean. Anyone? What would be a good respectable number, and what would be a major dissapointment?

major davis
October 18th, 2010, 01:56 PM
Travis just posted broadcast numbers.. its been 2 hours.. cable finals should be up soon! :)

Rocky89
October 18th, 2010, 01:58 PM
adding predictions -

Predictions:

Major Davis - 1.4 million
majorsal - 1.3 million
jelgate - 1.3 million
Inquisitor - 3 million
Briangate78 - 1.6 million, with 1.2 HH
hedwig - 1.5 million

Sorry, guys, you're all wrong. :( @ShowPatrol S3 premiere of #Sanctuary does well in ratings. Average 1.8 million total viewers

WOO HOO!!! http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp337/Rocky89_03/Helen_claps.gif

NoCleverSig
October 18th, 2010, 01:59 PM
Sorry, guys, you're all wrong. :( @ShowPatrol S3 premiere of #Sanctuary does well in ratings. Average 1.8 million total viewers

WOO HOO!!! http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp337/Rocky89_03/Helen_claps.gif

:)

major davis
October 18th, 2010, 02:01 PM
Glad for sanctuary.. just wish SGU was pulling these numbers (If it stayed on friday I think it could have done better).

Next week...

Major Davis- 1.57 million

RealmOfX
October 18th, 2010, 02:01 PM
WWE Smackdown (120 minutes)
- 2.876 million viewers
- 1.6/3 HH
- 0.9/3 A18-49

Sanctuary
- 1.787 million viewers
- 1.1/2 HH
- 0.6/2 A18-49

Briangate78
October 18th, 2010, 02:03 PM
Oh yeah! Told ya!!!!

Awesome Awesome!

RealmOfX
October 18th, 2010, 02:05 PM
<snip>
Someone give me an idea as to what would be considered "low/medium/high" or some such scale so I can get a sense of what the numbers mean. Anyone? What would be a good respectable number, and what would be a major dissapointment?

That is really hard to quantify, unfortunately, and different people have different expectations/interpretations. Really only the airing networks opinion counts and we do not know just what their expectations are, that's why we have the discussion thread and speculate about a lot of factors.

Rocky89
October 18th, 2010, 02:06 PM
Oh yeah! Told ya!!!!

Yippie! :D

- 1.1/2 HH
- 0.6/2 A18-49

What does the / mean? :p

@ShowPatrol @puffandruffle Better than last season's Sanctuary average, according to Syfy

@TVbytheNumbers SANCTUARY premiere up 12% vs. season 2 avg with adults 18-49, plus FRIDAY NIGHT SMACKDOWN ratings: http://bit.ly/dlMcOd

@ShowPatrol @puffandruffle SmackDown was Syfy's most-watched Friday telecast in more than five years, and #Sanctuary had a 17% boost from last yr's ave

You know, I read this news, and I realize there's only 1 good song to celebrate it to. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qitn6FRc0oc

:p

carmencatalina
October 18th, 2010, 02:17 PM
I'm soooo glad being paired with wrestling isn't hurting Sanctuary! I was worried - but I think it might end up doing just fine. Good news.

Rocky89
October 18th, 2010, 02:25 PM
@atappingnews Here is a more detailed article on @Syfy's Friday night ratings & how WWE boosted #Sanctuary's ratings: http://bit.ly/9BwVSy
Syfy’s ‘Sanctuary’ Soars in Season Three Premiere; With ‘Friday Night Smackdown!’ Most-Watched Syfy Friday in 5 Years

Briangate78
October 18th, 2010, 02:26 PM
Sanctuary went up against game one of the ALCS, which drew more than 8 Million viewers on TBS.

major davis
October 18th, 2010, 02:33 PM
Sanctuary went up against game one of the ALCS, which drew more than 8 Million viewers on TBS.

SGU goes up against shows that have twice that many. ;)

Still impressive though.

Carterfan
October 18th, 2010, 02:34 PM
Oh yeah! Told ya!!!!

Awesome Awesome!

Did even better than you expected. Awesome, awesome. Will never doubt you again! I'm so happy for Sanctuary.

RealmOfX
October 18th, 2010, 02:39 PM
SGU goes up against shows that have twice that many. ;)

Still impressive though.

This thread isn't about SGU, and what Briangate posted was extremely relevant due to it being competition for Sanctuary that it does not normally have to compete against and Sanctuary's ratings went up from the S2 finale and the S2 average.

Briangate78
October 18th, 2010, 02:42 PM
This thread isn't about SGU, and what Briangate posted was extremely relevant due to it being competition for Sanctuary that it does not normally have to compete against and Sanctuary's ratings went up from the S2 finale and the S2 average.

Did u read my first post in the discussion thread? I was watching Sanctuary live because the Yankees were losing bad. I got a text from a friend to turn on the game, and they came back to win the game. :p I then watched the last 10 mins of Sanctuary on my DVR. But the episode was so good, I had to keep switching back. :p

Anyway, I had a gut feeling the numbers were going to go back up. This is certainly good news for the show. :)

Rocky89
October 18th, 2010, 03:14 PM
@Syfy The season 3 premiere of #sanctuary is up 17% over the season 2 average, following the record-setting WWE Smackdown lead-in. Congrats both!

@ATOnline Kali III pulls in 1.8 million viewers: 'Sanctuary Soars in Season Three Premiere, Up 17% in Total Viewers' http://bit.ly/9BwVSy

Now that's what I'm talking about. ;)

Mandysg1
October 18th, 2010, 03:31 PM
I've started a new thread for Season 3 so that the ongoing stats can be kept in one place in this first post.

Season 3

.....Total........Total....A18-49....Viewer**
Ep...Viewers.....HH..Shr...HH..Shr...Change %
.1 - 1,787,000...1.1..2....0.6..2....+19.7
.2 -
.3 -


** from last ep


Hey Rox I read the article on TVBTN and they said it was averaging 1.3HH rating?

*Is confused* :S

RealmOfX
October 18th, 2010, 03:39 PM
Hey Rox I read the article on TVBTN and they said it was averaging 1.3HH rating?

*Is confused* :S

Syfy uses a coverage rating, that is a rating based on the smaller number of households that can receive Syfy as opposed to the larger number of households in the National universe.
What is reported on the PI forum (where we get the figures from) uses National figures and the 1.1 rating listed here is about a 1.3 Syfy coverage rating.

Here is the most current household TV info I have -
National households 115,900,000
Syfy households 96,400,000

Carterfan
October 18th, 2010, 03:42 PM
Hey Rox I read the article on TVBTN and they said it was averaging 1.3HH rating?

*Is confused* :S

If you are talking about this,


During its 10-11PM (ET/PT) time period, Sanctuary averaged 1.8 million total viewers, 860,000 Adults 25-54 and 728,000 Adults 18-49 while averaging a 1.3 HH rating.


I have the exact same question too!? Maybe our ratings gurus can explain this. Ratings are soooo confusing!

Mandysg1
October 18th, 2010, 03:42 PM
Syfy uses a coverage rating, that is a rating based on the smaller number of households that can receive Syfy as opposed to the larger number of households in the National universe.
What is reported on the PI forum (where we get the figures from) uses National figures and the 1.1 rating listed here is about a 1.3 Syfy coverage rating.

Here is the most current household TV info I have -
National households 115,900,000
Syfy households 96,400,000

Thanks for clarifying :)

chrono trigger
October 18th, 2010, 03:43 PM
yes im so glad im getting my fingers crossed for a season 4.

leiasky
October 18th, 2010, 03:53 PM
Congrats to the Sanctuary team! Good news that they were up in the ratings for the premier!

majorsal
October 18th, 2010, 03:55 PM
Glad for sanctuary.. just wish SGU was pulling these numbers (If it stayed on friday I think it could have done better).

Next week...

Major Davis- 1.57 million

they need to give sgu a huge lead in show, like they did with sanctuary. don't give up hope yet, major davis, for sgu. (((mj)))

Mandysg1
October 18th, 2010, 03:58 PM
Congrats to the Sanctuary team! Good news that they were up in the ratings for the premier!

Yep and let's hope they can keep the momentum UP :D

Carterfan
October 18th, 2010, 04:03 PM
Syfy uses a coverage rating, that is a rating based on the smaller number of households that can receive Syfy as opposed to the larger number of households in the National universe.
What is reported on the PI forum (where we get the figures from) uses National figures and the 1.1 rating listed here is about a 1.3 Syfy coverage rating.

Here is the most current household TV info I have -
National households 115,900,000
Syfy households 96,400,000


Ditto the thanks.

majorsal
October 18th, 2010, 04:03 PM
WWE Smackdown (120 minutes)
- 2.876 million viewers
- 1.6/3 HH
- 0.9/3 A18-49

Sanctuary
- 1.787 million viewers
- 1.1/2 HH
- 0.6/2 A18-49

i know the viewers part is good :D, but are the other ratings (the HH and the one below it) good as well?

*takes moment to collect self*

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! :D

k, i'm collected again. :p

majorsal
October 18th, 2010, 04:05 PM
Oh yeah! Told ya!!!!

Awesome Awesome!

your estimate was the closest, so you win! :p

keep winning, brian!! :p

majorsal
October 18th, 2010, 04:07 PM
I'm soooo glad being paired with wrestling isn't hurting Sanctuary! I was worried - but I think it might end up doing just fine. Good news.

i was worried too! :p i'm always worried :S :p

i don't mind one little bit if sanctuary's increase is the wrestling fans hanging on. keep it going, wrestling fans!! :p

majorsal
October 18th, 2010, 04:08 PM
Sanctuary went up against game one of the ALCS, which drew more than 8 Million viewers on TBS.

yay! :D

now what's 'alcs'? :p

Carterfan
October 18th, 2010, 04:10 PM
Yep and let's hope they can keep the momentum UP :D

Wouldn't that be great, as that will mean a season 4.



yes im so glad im getting my fingers crossed for a season 4.

And according to the GW interview, if we get a season 4, we just might get a Sanctuary MOVIE tagged onto the end of it. How awesome would that be. I really need to just enjoy this season first. LOL !

Rocky89
October 18th, 2010, 04:18 PM
Wouldn't that be great, as that will mean a season 4.

And according to the GW interview, if we get a season 4, we just might get a Sanctuary MOVIE tagged onto the end of it. How awesome would that be. I really need to just enjoy this season first. LOL !

VERY awesome! :D But I don't remember anything about a movie. :p

majorsal
October 18th, 2010, 04:21 PM
Yep and let's hope they can keep the momentum UP :D

is it wrong to fall into the gutter with that remark? :S :p

majorsal
October 18th, 2010, 04:23 PM
And according to the GW interview, if we get a season 4, we just might get a Sanctuary MOVIE tagged onto the end of it. How awesome would that be. I really need to just enjoy this season first. LOL !

that's almost too much to hope for! :p

Mandysg1
October 18th, 2010, 04:23 PM
is it wrong to fall into the gutter with that remark? :S :p

Knowing you Sally, it's to be expected :P

majorsal
October 18th, 2010, 04:23 PM
knowing you sally, it's to be expected :p

:jack_new_anime18:

Carterfan
October 18th, 2010, 04:33 PM
VERY awesome! :D But I don't remember anything about a movie. :p

I remember reading an interview recently where AT said if they get a season 4, they discussed the possibility of a movie. I thought it was the GW interview, but maybe I read it elsewhere, or maybe I had a dream! So thats why this season performing well enough to get a renewal is so important to my TV viewing of the future. I'm still celebrating the numbers for Friday and have called all my friends across the pond to tune in tommorow or else! :)

Rocky89
October 18th, 2010, 04:43 PM
i remember reading an interview recently where at said if they get a season 4, they discussed the possibility of a movie. I thought it was the gw interview, but maybe i read it elsewhere, or maybe i had a dream! so thats why this season performing well enough to get a renewal is so important to my tv viewing of the future. i'm still celebrating the numbers for friday and have called all my friends across the pond to tune in tomorrow or else! :)

Yay! If they're is S4, I'll do my best to go to CC to be apart of the celebration, and how awesome would it be if they did a screening for the movie at CC? :) if it happens of course. :)

And yes, do what you have to do to get more people to tune in. ;) DO IT! :mad:

:p

MissCheerfully
October 19th, 2010, 12:11 AM
And according to the GW interview, if we get a season 4, we just might get a Sanctuary MOVIE tagged onto the end of it. How awesome would that be. I really need to just enjoy this season first. LOL !

Does that mean if we get a movie there won't be a season 5????

RealmOfX
October 19th, 2010, 12:24 AM
Does that mean if we get a movie there won't be a season 5????

No, and can people please get back on topic.

MissCheerfully
October 19th, 2010, 01:23 AM
Then I prefer a whole season.. but yes, sorry, let's get back to the topic.
I really hope Firewall will get as much as viewers as Kali III, and more.

Rocky89
October 21st, 2010, 12:46 PM
OK, S3 off to a good start, why don't we give some predictions as to what the number will be for tomorrow's episode? I'll give mine after I see some from others. ;)

jelgate
October 21st, 2010, 03:27 PM
OK, S3 off to a good start, why don't we give some predictions as to what the number will be for tomorrow's episode? I'll give mine after I see some from others. ;)

I 'll go 200,000 less then what Kali III got.

Rocky89
October 21st, 2010, 04:20 PM
I 'll go 200,000 less then what Kali III got.

Actual numbers please, like 1.6. Remember, my brain is for all things AT, not math. :p

jelgate
October 21st, 2010, 04:25 PM
Actual numbers please, like 1.6. Remember, my brain is for all things AT, not math. :p

IIRC the Kali III numbers my prediction is 1.5 million

Rocky89
October 21st, 2010, 04:27 PM
IIRC the Kali III numbers my prediction is 1.5 million

Thank you. :D

kes
October 22nd, 2010, 04:24 AM
This says it has a trailer for ep 303 Bank Job:
http://www.scifiscoop.com/news/sanctuary-s03e03-bank-job-summary/
I cant see it here. Can anyone confirm?

majorsal
October 22nd, 2010, 05:18 PM
does anyone know if there's a baseball game again tonight? i wondering about competition for ep 2.

jelgate
October 22nd, 2010, 05:56 PM
does anyone know if there's a baseball game again tonight? i wondering about competition for ep 2.

Yes

Rocky89
October 22nd, 2010, 07:32 PM
Yes

What time was that game on?

jelgate
October 22nd, 2010, 08:41 PM
What time was that game on?

It was through all of Sanctuary if that is what you're wondering

majorsal
October 22nd, 2010, 08:44 PM
It was through all of Sanctuary if that is what you're wondering

is it over yet? for me, in the west coast, sanctuary will be starting in about 15 mins.

but as briangate said, last week's premier had a baseball game too. who the heck knows anymore.

Rocky89
October 22nd, 2010, 08:45 PM
It was through all of Sanctuary if that is what you're wondering

East coast?

jelgate
October 22nd, 2010, 08:51 PM
is it over yet? for me, in the west coast, sanctuary will be starting in about 15 mins.

but as briangate said, last week's premier had a baseball game too. who the heck knows anymore.The game is over so shouldn't affect the west coast


East coast?
Time zones for sporting events don't matter. They're all live

Rocky89
October 23rd, 2010, 09:23 AM
What I want to know is how it did in Australia.

Sp!der
October 23rd, 2010, 09:32 AM
I still at season one.. never watched season two (only the first episodes)..so season three has to wait.

Briangate78
October 24th, 2010, 06:28 AM
Friday's night game had over 11 Million viewers. Yankees are out (Sure, Fox is kicking themselves over that), so don't have to worry about high ratings for the World Series.

I also don't see Sanctuary's episode being too effected by the Baseball game this past Friday.

majorsal
October 24th, 2010, 02:24 PM
Friday's night game had over 11 Million viewers. Yankees are out (Sure, Fox is kicking themselves over that), so don't have to worry about high ratings for the World Series.

I also don't see Sanctuary's episode being too effected by the Baseball game this past Friday.

thanks for that, brian! ;)

these eps, following the premier, are going to show sanctuary's strength. or not :S.

jelgate
October 24th, 2010, 02:32 PM
thanks for that, brian! ;)

these eps, following the premier, are going to show sanctuary's strength. or not :S.
I wouldn't worry to much. Sanctuary's history will probably keep them stable. But expect a decline. Season premieres (not always) tend to be the highest

majorsal
October 24th, 2010, 02:36 PM
I wouldn't worry to much. Sanctuary's history will probably keep them stable. But expect a decline. Season premieres (not always) tend to be the highest

good advice. :)

i'm expecting it, but i'm just hoping it's not BIG. :p

Beka
October 25th, 2010, 05:34 PM
http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/514100033/p/6

Sanctuary
- 1.380 million viewers
- 0.9/2 HH
- 0.4/1 A18-49

Briangate78
October 25th, 2010, 05:47 PM
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/10/25/friday-cable-ratings-sanctuary-down-yankeesrangers-suite-life-on-deck-pair-of-kings-big-time-rush-much-more/69588



Sanctuary fell 33% from its premiere to a 0.4 rating with adults 18-49 and 1.38 million viewers (last week a 0.6 and 1.79 million viewers). Perhaps it was hurt by Yankees/Rangers which rated higher than the previous Friday (game 1 a week earlier averaged a 2.7 adults 18-49 rating and 8.1 million viewers). Friday Night Smackdown! was also down a touch from a 0.9 rating to a 0.8 rating with adults 18-49 and from 2.9 million viewers to 2.7 million.

jelgate
October 25th, 2010, 05:50 PM
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/10/25/friday-cable-ratings-sanctuary-down-yankeesrangers-suite-life-on-deck-pair-of-kings-big-time-rush-much-more/69588

I'm curious if it was baseball or not. I hope it is but if it was baseball then Smackdown should have had a huge drop as well so I'm a little skepetic. Guess we'll know next week

Briangate78
October 25th, 2010, 05:53 PM
I'm curious if it was baseball or not. I hope it is but if it was baseball then Smackdown should have had a huge drop as well so I'm a little skepetic. Guess we'll know next week

I can also see SGU going up tomorrow as well as Sanctuary on Friday. We shall see what happens.

majorsal
October 25th, 2010, 05:53 PM
http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/514100033/p/6

Sanctuary
- 1.380 million viewers
- 0.9/2 HH
- 0.4/1 A18-49




Sanctuary fell 33% from its premiere to a 0.4 rating with adults 18-49 and 1.38 million viewers (last week a 0.6 and 1.79 million viewers). Perhaps it was hurt by Yankees/Rangers which rated higher than the previous Friday (game 1 a week earlier averaged a 2.7 adults 18-49 rating and 8.1 million viewers). Friday Night Smackdown! was also down a touch from a 0.9 rating to a 0.8 rating with adults 18-49 and from 2.9 million viewers to 2.7 million.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/10/25/friday-cable-ratings-sanctuary-down-yankeesrangers-suite-life-on-deck-pair-of-kings-big-time-rush-much-more/69588

there we go. this is why i'm always worried.

so in normal ratings numbers, what HH did it get?

jelgate
October 25th, 2010, 05:56 PM
there we go. This is why i'm always worried.

So in normal ratings numbers, what hh did it get?

a 0.9

majorsal
October 25th, 2010, 05:57 PM
a 0.9

oh, lovely.

:mckay:

Briangate78
October 25th, 2010, 06:04 PM
oh, lovely.

:mckay:

Actually it is a 1.1 Coverage rating. Last week's was a 1.3 HH rating.

majorsal
October 25th, 2010, 06:06 PM
Actually it is a 1.1 Coverage rating.

is that syfy's coverage rating, and the 0.9 is national?

it's a 'bit' better.

but still... i figured it would fall a bit (most eps after premiers do), i just don't like seeing it fall 33 percent.

wrestling lost some too... do you really think this was baseball related?

Briangate78
October 25th, 2010, 06:09 PM
is that syfy's coverage rating, and the 0.9 is national?

it's a 'bit' better.

but still... i figured it would fall a bit (most eps after premiers do), i just don't like seeing it fall 33 percent.

wrestling lost some too... do you really think this was baseball related?

Yup, see you are getting good at this. :p

As per Baseball, It got around 12 million viewers. So I think there was an impact. If there is an uptick this week. then it was likely baseball. But I also think it was also coming off a premiere episode as well. I think this week should see over 1.5 Million viewers.

MelissaAdams
October 25th, 2010, 06:10 PM
I admit I'm not one to understand ratings worth a 'toss' and honestly I rarely follow them but why I admit I'm a 'little' disappointed with the drop it's really not that surprising. Not just the baseball game but we had nice weather most places in the US this week and Friday night also starts the 'official' weekend, I would imagine a lot of folks record it and watch it later and then of course there are those of us that do 'both'...LOL I'm even staying up till 3am this morning to watch the repeat of Firewall :D

Why I definitely hope Sanctuary does better I've got to admit I feel it's really even the only truly science fiction show on SyFy anymore and Sanctuary has gotten me to watch a half hour of wrestling as I always tune in but never pay attention cause I don't want to miss a second. ;)

I'm just saying a drop is worrisome but truthfully from what I recall, and I admit my memory isn't that good, isn't a 1.1 or whatever it was about what Sanctuary was doing pretty steadily and it's it a pretty good overall number or am I just delusional? :mckay:

majorsal
October 25th, 2010, 06:12 PM
Yup, see you are getting good at this. :p

As per Baseball, It got around 12 million viewers. So I think there was an impact. If there is an uptick this week. then it was likely baseball. But I also think it was also coming off a premiere episode as well. I think this week should see over 1.5 Million viewers.

well, ppl like you help to teach me. (you're nice and patient :p)

crap happens, and ppl chose something else to watch over sanctuary. :/

Briangate78
October 25th, 2010, 06:15 PM
well, ppl like you help to teach me. (you're nice and patient :p)

crap happens, and ppl chose something else to watch over sanctuary. :/

We have to wait and see a trend. 2 eps is not enough data, once we see like 4 or 5 we can get an idea where the season is heading. :)

RealmOfX
October 25th, 2010, 06:17 PM
is that syfy's coverage rating, and the 0.9 is national?

it's a 'bit' better.

but still... i figured it would fall a bit (most eps after premiers do), i just don't like seeing it fall 33 percent.

wrestling lost some too... do you really think this was baseball related?

Sally pay attention to what the drop was in - that drop of 33% was the A18-49 rating from 0.6 to 0.4 - any change from 0.6 was going to be a fairly decent one.
The drop in total viewers was 22.8%.

majorsal
October 25th, 2010, 06:36 PM
We have to wait and see a trend. 2 eps is not enough data, once we see like 4 or 5 we can get an idea where the season is heading. :)

thanks, brian. :)

majorsal
October 25th, 2010, 06:39 PM
Sally pay attention to what the drop was in - that drop of 33% was the A18-49 rating from 0.6 to 0.4 - any change from 0.6 was going to be a fairly decent one.
The drop in total viewers was 22.8%.

the ratings numbers are hard for me, rox. :S (i'm better with word puzzles :p)

but *thank you* for clarifying what that 33% drop represented, and that the viewers loss was 22.8%.

:)

Rocky89
October 25th, 2010, 06:43 PM
I can also see SGU going up tomorrow as well as Sanctuary on Friday. We shall see what happens.


http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/10/25/friday-cable-ratings-sanctuary-down-yankeesrangers-suite-life-on-deck-pair-of-kings-big-time-rush-much-more/69588

Sanctuary fell 33% from its premiere to a 0.4 rating with adults 18-49 and 1.38 million viewers (last week a 0.6 and 1.79 million viewers). Perhaps it was hurt by Yankees/Rangers which rated higher than the previous Friday (game 1 a week earlier averaged a 2.7 adults 18-49 rating and 8.1 million viewers). Friday Night Smackdown! was also down a touch from a 0.9 rating to a 0.8 rating with adults 18-49 and from 2.9 million viewers to 2.7 million.

I like you, you always show facts, hope, and scientifically explain why something we don't like may have happened, but how it can be undone. :o:p


is that syfy's coverage rating, and the 0.9 is national?

it's a 'bit' better.

but still... i figured it would fall a bit (most eps after premiers do), i just don't like seeing it fall 33 percent.

wrestling lost some too... do you really think this was baseball related?

I don't really follow the ratings for most shows, but from what I've seen, a lot of shows are down this week. I had a feeling baseball would do something like this.


Yup, see you are getting good at this. :p

She just needs tutoring and patience. :p


As per Baseball, It got around 12 million viewers. So I think there was an impact. If there is an uptick this week. then it was likely baseball. But I also think it was also coming off a premiere episode as well. I think this week should see over 1.5 Million viewers.

A lot of people were worried about baseball, and they said it could impact not just Sanctuary, but most shows, and it seems it did. IF only Sanctuary went down, I'd be really worried, but others went down too, and Sanctuary is still pulling respectable number, better than others I've seen.


I admit I'm not one to understand ratings worth a 'toss' and honestly I rarely follow them but why I admit I'm a 'little' disappointed with the drop it's really not that surprising. Not just the baseball game but we had nice weather most places in the US this week and Friday night also starts the 'official' weekend, I would imagine a lot of folks record it and watch it later and then of course there are those of us that do 'both'...LOL I'm even staying up till 3am this morning to watch the repeat of Firewall :D

Why I definitely hope Sanctuary does better I've got to admit I feel it's really even the only truly science fiction show on SyFy anymore and Sanctuary has gotten me to watch a half hour of wrestling as I always tune in but never pay attention cause I don't want to miss a second. ;)

I'm just saying a drop is worrisome but truthfully from what I recall, and I admit my memory isn't that good, isn't a 1.1 or whatever it was about what Sanctuary was doing pretty steadily and it's it a pretty good overall number or am I just delusional? :mckay:

Wow, well said. :p The thing that makes me feel better is, and I just said this, Sanctuary is *still* doing better than other shows on Syfy, and not only that, but Sanctuary did, IN FACT, have lower numbers in S1 and S2, so 1.4 is better than episodes it did in the past 2 years.


well, ppl like you help to teach me. (you're nice and patient :p)

crap happens, and ppl chose something else to watch over sanctuary. :/

We need a LOT of patience with you. :):p

Sanctuary, like all shows, have ups and downs, look at S1 and S2. I saw 1.2 or 1.1 in S1 and S2, and what happened? They went up. It may not happen next week, maybe it will, but I like to believe it will at some point.


We have to wait and see a trend. 2 eps is not enough data, once we see like 4 or 5 we can get an idea where the season is heading. :)

You're super smart, duh, can you show us a graph or chart of the numbers for S1 and S2 so we can sorta compare? :)


Sally pay attention to what the drop was in - that drop of 33% was the A18-49 rating from 0.6 to 0.4 - any change from 0.6 was going to be a fairly decent one.
The drop in total viewers was 22.8%.

Wait... so the overall drop was 22.8%? :p

majorsal
October 25th, 2010, 06:48 PM
She just needs tutoring and patience. :p

and

We need a LOT of patience with you. :):p



i have a feeling that a short time after you're married, you'll be sleeping on the couch quite a bit, honeybuns. :mckay:

Calluna
October 26th, 2010, 12:46 AM
Considering how awesome the episode was and how well it premiered last week, I'm a bit bummed that it didn't hold on to more of those numbers, even though a drop was almost certain. However it is true we'll need to see how it does for the next few weeks before we see a trend. It is still doing ok, better than many syfy productions and hopefully will increase again soon.

samcartersg1
October 26th, 2010, 07:47 AM
If I remember right, the second half of Season 2 was around 1.4 million so I am guessing that this is where it will level out.

Rocky89
October 26th, 2010, 07:52 AM
If I remember right, the second half of Season 2 was around 1.4 million so I am guessing that this is where it will level out.

The one thing I like knowing is that Sanctuart HAS seen lower numbers, again with the 1.1 and 1.2 examples, and it always bounced back.

majorsal
October 26th, 2010, 01:58 PM
i'm still thinking this 2nd ep dip was primarily related to the baseball playoffs (even wrestling lost a bit). i'm hoping for an uptick next week, even if it's a small amount. :)

Rocky89
October 26th, 2010, 02:38 PM
OK, after doing a little digging, I found these-


S1:
Ep 1&2 - 2.2
E3 -1.6
E4 -1.6
Ep 5-1.5
Ep 6 - 1.5
Ep 8 – 1,746,000
Ep 9 – 1,538,000
Ep 10 – 1,703,000
Ep 11 – 1,520,000
Ep 12 – 1,850,000
Ep 13 – 1,990,000

S2:
Ep 1 - 1.8
Ep 2-7 ???
Ep 8 – 1,328,000
Ep 9 – 1,363,000
Ep 10 – 1,376,000
Ep 11 – 1,404,000
Ep 12 – 1,493,000
Ep 13 – 1,493,000

So, what do you think? :p

majorsal
October 26th, 2010, 03:07 PM
OK, after doing a little digging, I found these-


S1:
Ep 1&2 - 2.2
E3 -1.6
E4 -1.6
Ep 5-1.5
Ep 6 - 1.5
Ep 8 – 1,746,000
Ep 9 – 1,538,000
Ep 10 – 1,703,000
Ep 11 – 1,520,000
Ep 12 – 1,850,000
Ep 13 – 1,990,000

S2:
Ep 1 - 1.8
Ep 2-7 ???
Ep 8 – 1,328,000
Ep 9 – 1,363,000
Ep 10 – 1,376,000
Ep 11 – 1,404,000
Ep 12 – 1,493,000
Ep 13 – 1,493,000

So, what do you think? :p

what do these number represent, rocky? viewers?

Rocky89
October 26th, 2010, 03:13 PM
what do these number represent, rocky? viewers?

I don't know, I got 'em from the old ratings thread. :p

RealmOfX
October 26th, 2010, 03:15 PM
what do these number represent, rocky? viewers?

They're a mishmash of different numbers Sally. I've put S2 numbers in the first post and will put S1 up soon, so they are all in one place.

Just a note to anyone participating in the thread, there are lots of different numbers used in ratings and it would be appreciated if you could specify which ones you are talking about in your post in order to not confuse the conversation. For those of you not up on terminology then please ask and someone will explain to you.

Rocky89
October 26th, 2010, 03:32 PM
They're a mishmash of different numbers Sally. I've put S2 numbers in the first post and will put S1 up soon, so they are all in one place.

Just a note to anyone participating in the thread, there are lots of different numbers used in ratings and it would be appreciated if you could specify which ones you are talking about in your post in order to not confuse the conversation. For those of you not up on terminology then please ask and someone will explain to you.

Check out this chart I found on another site.

http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/ae118/Rocky89_05/IMG_3350.jpg

Mean anything to you? :p

jelgate
October 26th, 2010, 03:42 PM
Check out this chart I found on another site.

[IG]http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/ae118/Rocky89_05/IMG_3350.jpg[/IMG]

Mean anything to you? :p
Except the last row yes.

majorsal
October 26th, 2010, 03:48 PM
Check out this chart I found on another site.

http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/ae118/Rocky89_05/IMG_3350.jpg

Mean anything to you? :p

means nothing to me, b/c i don't know what it 'means'. :p

Rocky89
October 26th, 2010, 03:48 PM
Except the last row yes.

So... what does it mean? :p

Skydiver
October 26th, 2010, 03:56 PM
it means

a total of 2.16 million viewers, which gives a rating of 1.6, and, out of that 2.16 million total viewers, 1 million was in the 18-49 age group

the top row is neilson's presumably, the next row 'tv by the numbers' reporting. the red 'difference' is the difference in the two sources

then a comparison to what it was jan 2009, same columns

RealmOfX
October 26th, 2010, 03:58 PM
Rocky would you kindly please provide a link to information found on other sites so people can get a bit of context.

Would you also please desist with the overdone fanboy antics, there are plenty of other threads to play around in but this one is for serious discussion on ratings. Ending every post here with :P is not appropriate.

jelgate
October 26th, 2010, 04:00 PM
So... what does it mean? :p
This could take awhile. First lets remember that Live +7 is the Live numbers plus seven days of people watching DVR shows. The first column is the Live +7 Viewers with the second column is the Live +7 households. Lets remember a viewer is a single person and household is just one place. A family of 5 is 5 viewers and 1 household. Finally, the third column is how many of those viewers are between the age of 18-49. These people tend to buy the most products related to the TV show so its important to advertiser. First row is what a press release issued for Sanctuary and the 2nd row is what Nielson reported to TVBTN and numbers and other sites. For all purposes its a rounding error. I don't think I need to explain what difference means in row 3 unless your sally:P. Row 4 is the ratings for Kali I/II. Row 5 is the difference between what I'm going to assume is the season finale of S1 and S2 but it could be any S1 and S2 comparassion

majorsal
October 26th, 2010, 04:03 PM
This could take awhile. First lets remember that Live +7 is the Live numbers plus seven days of people watching DVR shows. The first column is the Live +7 Viewers with the second column is the Live +7 households. Lets remember a viewer is a single person and household is just one place. A family of 5 is 5 viewers and 1 household. Finally, the third column is how many of those viewers are between the age of 18-49. These people tend to buy the most products related to the TV show so its important to advertiser. First row is what a press release issued for Sanctuary and the 2nd row is what Nielson reported to TVBTN and numbers and other sites. For all purposes its a rounding error. I don't think I need to explain what difference means in row 3 unless your sally:P. Row 4 is the ratings for Kali I/II. Row 5 is the difference between what I'm going to assume is the season finale of S1 and S2 but it could be any S1 and S2 comparassion

see, i don't really give a rat's behind enough to learn/memorize/study, etc all this, i just want the simple numbers and are they/aren't they doing good. :p

i'm learning 'some', just be/c the numbers *game* is so important around here (and networks), but i'd rather just get the numbers and forget the game playing.

Rocky89
October 26th, 2010, 04:04 PM
Rocky would you kindly please provide a link to information found on other sites so people can get a bit of context.

Would you also please desist with the overdone fanboy antics, there are plenty of other threads to play around in but this one is for serious discussion on ratings. Ending every post here with :P is not appropriate.

See, all you had to do was ask nicely.
http://brusimm.com/2009/12/31/sanctuary-ratings-and-the-syfy-spin/comment-page-1/


This could take awhile. First lets remember that Live +7 is the Live numbers plus seven days of people watching DVR shows. The first column is the Live +7 Viewers with the second column is the Live +7 households. Lets remember a viewer is a single person and household is just one place. A family of 5 is 5 viewers and 1 household. Finally, the third column is how many of those viewers are between the age of 18-49. These people tend to buy the most products related to the TV show so its important to advertiser. First row is what a press release issued for Sanctuary and the 2nd row is what Nielson reported to TVBTN and numbers and other sites. For all purposes its a rounding error. I don't think I need to explain what difference means in row 3 unless your sally :P. Row 4 is the ratings for Kali I/II. Row 5 is the difference between what I'm going to assume is the season finale of S1 and S2 but it could be any S1 and S2 comparassion

:lol:

No, you don't have to explain that, but what's live 7?

jelgate
October 26th, 2010, 04:08 PM
See, all you had to do was ask nicely.
http://brusimm.com/2009/12/31/sanctuary-ratings-and-the-syfy-spin/comment-page-1/



:lol:

No, you don't have to explain that, but what's live 7?

I answered that in my second sentence.

Rocky89
October 26th, 2010, 04:14 PM
I answered that in my second sentence.

Oh. Thanks. :) So, according to the available numbers, they never dipped below 1.5 or 1.4 in total audience (Live+SD)?

Skydiver
October 26th, 2010, 06:48 PM
Folks

Let's not lose perspective please.

It's the ratings of a tv show, not life or death

Rocky89
October 26th, 2010, 07:58 PM
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/10/25/friday-cable-ratings-sanctuary-down-yankeesrangers-suite-life-on-deck-pair-of-kings-big-time-rush-much-more/69588

Sanctuary fell 33% from its premiere to a 0.4 rating with adults 18-49 and 1.38 million viewers (last week a 0.6 and 1.79 million viewers). Perhaps it was hurt by Yankees/Rangers which rated higher than the previous Friday (game 1 a week earlier averaged a 2.7 adults 18-49 rating and 8.1 million viewers). Friday Night Smackdown! was also down a touch from a 0.9 rating to a 0.8 rating with adults 18-49 and from 2.9 million viewers to 2.7 million.

OK, so while GW was out today, I did a little research on twitter, and I found these tweets from @TVbytheNumbers.

@TVbytheNumbers CBS's MET YOUR MOTHER, RULES, MEN, HAWAII FIVE-0 all hit or tie season low ratings
@TVbytheNumbers NBC's THE EVENT, CHASE both hit series low ratings,
@TVbytheNumbers Fox: After a HOUSE repeat, LIE TO ME hits a season low rating,
@TVbytheNumbers Sunday Finals: 'Brothers & Sisters', 'CSI: Miami' Hit Season Lows; Plus 'A

I'm posting them because I feel they sorta prove Brian's theory that baseball not only gave Sanctuary that ratings dip, but several other shows as well.

majorsal
October 26th, 2010, 08:01 PM
OK, so while GW was out today, I did a little reseach on twitter, and I found these tweets from @TVbytheNumbers.

@TVbytheNumbers CBS's MET YOUR MOTHER, RULES, MEN, HAWAII FIVE-0 all hit or tie season low ratings
@TVbytheNumbers NBC's THE EVENT, CHASE both hit series low ratings,
@TVbytheNumbers Fox: After a HOUSE repeat, LIE TO ME hits a season low rating,
@TVbytheNumbers Sunday Finals: 'Brothers & Sisters', 'CSI: Miami' Hit Season Lows; Plus 'A

I'm posting them because I feel they sorta prove Brian's theory that baseball not only gave Sanctuary that ratings dip, but several other shows as well.

i like this theory, and i guess it'll be proven (one way or the other) after we get the next ep's ratings. *hopes* :) :p

Beka
October 30th, 2010, 03:10 AM
I think the ratings will go up again. I predict 1.55 million viewers. :)

hedwig
October 30th, 2010, 10:13 AM
I think the ratings will go up again. I predict 1.55 million viewers. :)

If we're predicting, I'll say 1.4 million viewers. :)

majorsal
October 30th, 2010, 03:45 PM
i'll go with it going UP too. :D :p

i'll go 1.51.

Rocky89
October 30th, 2010, 07:13 PM
I have a subscription to this thread, and every time I see a new post here I get nervous. :p

Why do we make a game? We all post our predictions, and who ever gets it right, or comes the closest wins free green? :P

majorsal
October 30th, 2010, 07:16 PM
I have a subscription to this thread, and every time I see a new post here I get nervous. :p

Why do we make a game? We all post our predictions, and who ever gets it right, or comes the closest wins free green? :P

is that what happens on the sgu ratings thread when someone wins? :p

i still get scared doing this predictions thinger, b/c i don't like seeing ratings going lower than what i want them to be. :S :p

Rocky89
October 30th, 2010, 07:26 PM
is that what happens on the sgu ratings thread when someone wins? :p

Yes. :o


i still get scared doing this predictions thinger, b/c i don't like seeing ratings going lower than what i want them to be. :S :p

Then you should predict like a... 0.7. The you''ll know for sure it'll be higher than you expect. ;):p

jelgate
October 30th, 2010, 08:07 PM
I have a subscription to this thread, and every time I see a new post here I get nervous. :p

Why do we make a game? We all post our predictions, and who ever gets it right, or comes the closest wins free green? :P

Unless its Monday night you have nothing to worry about.

1.45 million

Rocky89
October 30th, 2010, 08:15 PM
Unless its Monday night you have nothing to worry about.

1.45 million

There's a chance the ratings could come out sooner. :D

jelgate
October 30th, 2010, 08:17 PM
There's a chance the ratings could come out sooner. :D

They have never been out earlier then 6 PM. The one who reports them has a real life and you have to wait until he gets some personal time

rebelfriendz
October 31st, 2010, 10:23 AM
1.6 (Fingers crossed)

siles
November 1st, 2010, 05:49 AM
1.62 mil viewers

RealmOfX
November 1st, 2010, 12:57 PM
Sanctuary
- 1.479 million viewers
- 0.9/2 HH
- 0.4/1 A18-49

Rocky89
November 1st, 2010, 01:35 PM
@TVbytheNumbers Friday Cable Ratings: NBA Rules the Cable Night, Sanctuary, Smackdown Steady & More http://bit.ly/9JrbIr

:)

majorsal
November 1st, 2010, 01:44 PM
Sanctuary
- 1.479 million viewers
- 0.9/2 HH
- 0.4/1 A18-49


@TVbytheNumbers Friday Cable Ratings: NBA Rules the Cable Night, Sanctuary, Smackdown Steady & More http://bit.ly/9JrbIr

:)

YES!! :D

i was sooo hoping it would up-tick, after the baseball thingie of last week! :p

Rocky89
November 1st, 2010, 01:54 PM
YES!! :D

i was sooo hoping it would up-tick, after the baseball thingie of last week! :p

Haha, it seems Brian's and my theory was indeed correct regarding the ratings decrease because of the baseball games last week. :)

majorsal
November 1st, 2010, 02:10 PM
Haha, it seems Brains and my theory was indeed correct regarding the ratings decrease because of the baseball games last week. :)

i think brian will love being called 'brain' instead! :p

(i make the same spelling mistake with one of my nephews :p)

Briangate78
November 1st, 2010, 02:20 PM
i think brian will love being called 'brain' instead! :p

(my make the same spelling mistake with one of my nephews :p)

LOL, it's all good. I am going to PM you guys something. So look out! :p

jelgate
November 1st, 2010, 02:47 PM
YES!! :D

i was sooo hoping it would up-tick, after the baseball thingie of last week! :p

Lets not exgerate. 10,000 is not that much of an uptick. Its more of the change you see from episode to episode. Seems like to me the baseball effect was highly insignificant

Briangate78
November 1st, 2010, 03:00 PM
Lets not exgerate. 10,000 is not that much of an uptick. Its more of the change you see from episode to episode. Seems like to me the baseball effect was highly insignificant

Um dude, it was a 100,000. That is a decent uptick, imo.

majorsal
November 1st, 2010, 03:00 PM
Lets not exgerate. 10,000 is not that much of an uptick. Its more of the change you see from episode to episode. Seems like to me the baseball effect was highly insignificant

it went UP, jel, that means something. i'm very happy it went up. :)

hedwig
November 1st, 2010, 03:06 PM
Sanctuary
- 1.479 million viewers
- 0.9/2 HH
- 0.4/1 A18-49

I said 1.4 million. So, more is better. :D

RealmOfX
November 1st, 2010, 03:25 PM
Um dude, it was a 100,000. That is a decent uptick, imo.

Whilst any going up is good, in reality 100,000 is negligible. So negligible it doesn't change the rating. Unfortunately since the ratings threads have moved more to looking at the viewer numbers than the rating, they have lost perspective about the significance of the actual movements.

I'm very happy the viewer numbers went up and I hope that continues.

Carterfan
November 1st, 2010, 03:36 PM
Um dude, it was a 100,000. That is a decent uptick, imo.

Phew, thats what I thought. 99,000. I thought I was going mad for a minute! Do you think Sanctuary could add viewers over the course of the season, or if it doesn't, holding these numbers as an average, is it pretty safe?

majorsal
November 1st, 2010, 03:40 PM
Whilst any going up is good, in reality 100,000 is negligible. So negligible it doesn't change the rating. Unfortunately since the ratings threads have moved more to looking at the viewer numbers than the rating, they have lost perspective about the significance of the actual movements.

I'm very happy the viewer numbers went up and I hope that continues.

yes... i wonder why that happened? :rolleyes:

suffice it to say, i am happy *something* went up! :p

RealmOfX
November 1st, 2010, 03:48 PM
yes... i wonder why that happened? :rolleyes:

I'm sure you don't really want me to answer that :P


suffice it to say, i am happy *something* went up! :p

As am I

Briangate78
November 1st, 2010, 03:48 PM
Whilst any going up is good, in reality 100,000 is negligible. So negligible it doesn't change the rating. Unfortunately since the ratings threads have moved more to looking at the viewer numbers than the rating, they have lost perspective about the significance of the actual movements.

I'm very happy the viewer numbers went up and I hope that continues.

It's better this way, imo to see the perspective change to viewers since the Viewers per households can change from week to week. 100,000 viewers certainly is not a huge uptick, but it is in the upward direction, which is always a good start for an upward trend. 100 here 50 there all of a sudden they are closer to 1.8 Million viewers before you know it.

jelgate
November 1st, 2010, 03:58 PM
It's better this way, imo to see the perspective change to viewers since the Viewers per households can change from week to week. 100,000 viewers certainly is not a huge uptick, but it is in the upward direction, which is always a good start for an upward trend. 100 here 50 there all of a sudden they are closer to 1.8 Million viewers before you know it.

The point I wa trying to makes (which was hindered by my typo:P) is that the baseball effect on Sanctuary was very small.

majorsal
November 1st, 2010, 04:07 PM
The point I wa trying to makes (which was hindered by my typo:P) is that the baseball effect on Sanctuary was very small.

it might have been small, jel, but the ratings went in the good direction. :p


thanks, brian. :)

jelgate
November 1st, 2010, 04:14 PM
it might have been small, jel, but the ratings went in the good direction. :p


thanks, brian. :)

That much is obvious. Them going up in ratings was never in question

majorsal
November 1st, 2010, 04:18 PM
That much is obvious. Them going up in ratings was never in question

then what? just to come over here and make sure the sanct fans aren't *too* happy with the ratings going up?

they went UP, even if it's a bit. that's a good direction to go.

isn't that what you want for 'your' favorite show, jel?

jelgate
November 1st, 2010, 04:22 PM
then what? just to come over here and make sure the sanct fans aren't *too* happy with the ratings going up?

they went UP, even if it's a bit. that's a good direction to go.

isn't that what you want for 'your' favorite show, jel?To show ratings in a realastic manner.

RealmOfX
November 1st, 2010, 04:26 PM
It's better this way, imo to see the perspective change to viewers since the Viewers per households can change from week to week. 100,000 viewers certainly is not a huge uptick, but it is in the upward direction, which is always a good start for an upward trend. 100 here 50 there all of a sudden they are closer to 1.8 Million viewers before you know it.

It doesn't really matter which number(s) you use so long as perspective of the overall is kept and that was/is my point.

I'd love for Sanctuary to have a long upward trend like that but looking at the previous seasons all I see is a relatively stable audience that had a tendency to start a little higher, drop a little bit, flatten out a bit and then climb a bit to the finale. It will be interesting to see what this season does with the split but extended season. Starting out higher than the S2 finale was great and maybe we'll see a different pattern emerge with them showing 10 eps straight to a mid season cliffhanger (it's Damian's show & the dude loves cliffhangers ;) ).

RealmOfX
November 1st, 2010, 04:38 PM
then what? just to come over here and make sure the sanct fans aren't *too* happy with the ratings going up?

they went UP, even if it's a bit. that's a good direction to go.

isn't that what you want for 'your' favorite show, jel?

Sally there is nothing wrong with taking a realistic look at ratings - this is a ratings discussion thread after all. If you just want to Rah Rah like a fan then there are more appropriate threads to do that in, jelgate had a very valid point so please stop taking people to task for pointing at the realities of ratings in the ratings thread.

Rocky89
November 1st, 2010, 04:44 PM
OK, guys, guys, let's all just be happy the ratings went up for the show. Whether they went up by 10,000 or 100,000, they went up, and that's all that matters. So, lets enjoy the fact that right now Sanctuary is doing well, and not in any immediate trouble. :)

majorsal
November 1st, 2010, 04:49 PM
OK, guys, guys, let's all just be happy the ratings went up for the show. Whether they went up by 10,000 or 100,000, they went up, and that's all that matters. So, lets enjoy the fact that right now Sanctuary is doing well, and not in any immediate trouble. :)

*that's* what i was expecting! thank you, rocky.

Calluna
November 1st, 2010, 05:02 PM
Ok, I know I'm not a particular regular around here, nor do I know huge amounts about ratings. But from my POV it's fairly positive, not great but fine. It upticked as many predicted, it is well within Sanctuary's last season range. The demo isn't great but it is still one of the cheaper scripted shows on the network which counts for something, especially compared to majorly expensive shows like Caprica and SGU which are/were getting worse ratings. And Smackdown is also not performing as it has at it's highest so far. And next week is Tesla sot I'll be interested to see if that makes a difference.

majorsal
November 1st, 2010, 05:21 PM
Ok, I know I'm not a particular regular around here, nor do I know huge amounts about ratings. But from my POV it's fairly positive, not great but fine. It upticked as many predicted, it is well within Sanctuary's last season range. The demo isn't great but it is still one of the cheaper scripted shows on the network which counts for something, especially compared to majorly expensive shows like Caprica and SGU which are/were getting worse ratings. And Smackdown is also not performing as it has at it's highest so far. And next week is Tesla sot I'll be interested to see if that makes a difference.

regarding bolded: that's what i felt too. :p

and i've seen smackdown's numbers... you're saying they've been better than what we're seeing now!: :eek: i'd LOVE for sanct to be getting those numbers! :p

i consider myself a pretty realistic person, so if the ratings go down again, i'm sure as heck going to come over here and whine. like i did last week. :p

Calluna
November 1st, 2010, 05:50 PM
and i've seen smackdown's numbers... you're saying they've been better than what we're seeing now!: i'd LOVE for sanct to be getting those numbers!


Well Smackdown is still raking in the money for Syfy, it's just it is down on previous weeks (on Syfy) and way down on previous networks it aired on. I doubt it has too much affect on Sanctuary either way as they probably don't share much of an audience, but it is worth noting.

majorsal
November 1st, 2010, 05:54 PM
Well Smackdown is still raking in the money for Syfy, it's just it is down on previous weeks (on Syfy) and way down on previous networks it aired on. I doubt it has too much affect on Sanctuary either way as they probably don't share much of an audience, but it is worth noting.

thanks for sharing. :)

i'm not sure if smackdown is 'helping' sanct, but it sure as heck isn't hurting it! :p

i'm not a fan of wrestling in any way, shape, or form (i can't even look at what's going on when i tune in a couple or so mins before sanct starts), but if smackdown's viewers are sticking around to check out sanct, then good! :)

(or visa versa :p)

Carterfan
November 1st, 2010, 05:58 PM
i consider myself a pretty realistic person, so if the ratings go down again, i'm sure as heck going to come over here and whine. like i did last week. :p

Well I consider myself a completely unrealistic person and predict the next episode to uptick by a minuscule and insignificant amount to make me significantly happy. ;)

1,479,009

JanSam
November 1st, 2010, 05:59 PM
then what? just to come over here and make sure the sanct fans aren't *too* happy with the ratings going up?

they went UP, even if it's a bit. that's a good direction to go.

isn't that what you want for 'your' favorite show, jel?


To show ratings in a realastic manner.

Sally, I welcome everyone's input and Jelgate and RoX consistently refrain from adding their own personal bias which I appreciate. I'm sure as fans of the show we are all very pleased that the viewers increased but I'm glad RoX and Jelgate pointed out that it wasn't enough to increase the actual rating.

majorsal
November 1st, 2010, 06:00 PM
Well I consider myself a completely unrealistic person and predict the next episode to uptick by a miniucule and insignificant amount to make me significantly happy. ;)

1,479,009

i'm... predicting...

:S

1.481

it's tiny, but up! :p

suse
November 1st, 2010, 06:07 PM
Why are people predicting ratings for next week? Is there a pool I don't know about?

Mandysg1
November 1st, 2010, 06:32 PM
Season 3

.....Total........Total....A18-49....Viewer**...Syfy
Ep...Viewers.....HH..Shr...HH..Shr...Change %...Ratg.
.1 - 1,787,000...1.1..2....0.6..2....+19.7......1.30
.2 - 1,380,000...0.9..2....0.4..1....-22.8......1.06
.3 - 1,479,000...0.9..2....0.4..1.....+7.2......1.06

** from last ep

Comparison to Syfy Weekly Average Primetime households
................Total.....................A18-49
Week ending..Syfy....Sanctuary..% dif..Syfy....Sanctuary..% dif.
17-Oct-10...859,000..1,274,900..+48.4..D.N.R....695,400
24-Oct-10...875,000..1,043,100..+19.2..594,000..463,600....-22.0

D.N.R. = did not rank in Top 10


S3 averages (to date) -
Total viewers - 1,548,667
National HH ratings : Total - 1.0, A18-49 - 0.5




Looking at the numbers from last week and this week, although the viewer numbers were slightly higher, there was no differnce in the HH and share numbers, like Rox and Jelgate were refering to.

majorsal
November 1st, 2010, 06:32 PM
Why are people predicting ratings for next week? Is there a pool I don't know about?

it's kind of like a sport, from what the sgu ratings thread does. we're just trying to see who gets the closest to the actual viewer numbers.

well, it's fun*ner* over there, but there's more ppl over there. :p

Mandysg1
November 1st, 2010, 06:34 PM
it's kind of like a sport, from what the sgu ratings thread does. we're just trying to see who gets the closest to the actual viewer numbers.

well, it's fun*ner* over there, but there's more ppl over there. :p

Not a fan of SGU so I don't care what they do in their threads, this is a Sanctuary thread.

suse
November 1st, 2010, 06:37 PM
it's kind of like a sport, from what the sgu ratings thread does. we're just trying to see who gets the closest to the actual viewer numbers.

well, it's fun*ner* over there, but there's more ppl over there. :p

Oh.

Nah, sorry.

:P I don't like tempting fate.

suse
November 1st, 2010, 06:40 PM
Anywho, I am quite happy it seems Sanctuary got more viewers. Tis the first step to those numbers actually changing the rating. :)

Rocky89
November 1st, 2010, 07:00 PM
Guys, let's all agree on one thing, we're all fans of the show, we want it to succeed, and it has so far, so lets all *just* be happy for it and continue to enjoy the show, and be proud of its success. I'm very glad and relieved it went up from last week, and that's cause alone to be happy and be proud. Is there a chance the ratings can go down? Yes. Can they go down a lot? Yes. ALL shows everywhere go down and up, and since day one I've been ready for the bad times, ratings-wise, and when things do get bad, I'll be ready.

I have no idea when that will happen, and I don't know how low the ratings it'll go, but I do know 2 things. Today is not that day, and like I said before, right now there is NO immediate trouble, or cause for concern. So for the moment, lets all be happy for the show, the cast and crew are, so us fans should be happy as well. :)

majorsal
November 1st, 2010, 07:09 PM
Oh.

Nah, sorry.

:P I don't like tempting fate.


that's kind of why i'm afraid to participate myself. :p



Anywho, I am quite happy it seems Sanctuary got more viewers. Tis the first step to those numbers actually changing the rating. :)

:)

RealmOfX
November 1st, 2010, 07:21 PM
This is a quick recap of basic rating terms :

Sanctuary
- 1.479 million viewers
- 0.9/2 HH
- 0.4/1 A18-49

First line
Viewers above are the total number of viewers watching, it is an average for the duration of the show. Paid subscribers can get breakdowns of the show duration down to the minute by minute level in some cases.

Second line
The total household rating followed by the share.
The Household rating is expressed as a percentage and is calculated by dividing the number of households watching by the total number of households possible (often referred to as a universe).
Households Watching / Total Households * 100 = HH rating percentage

The share is also expressed as a percentage and is calculated by dividing the number of households watching by the number of households with TV's turned on for that particular time period.
Households Watching / Households Using TV * 100 = HH share percentage

Third line
Is similar to the second line but is specifically for the sub group of people in the Adult 18 to 49 years of age range.


/ = divide
* = multiply

Melora
November 1st, 2010, 07:50 PM
This is a quick recap of basic rating terms :

Sanctuary
- 1.479 million viewers
- 0.9/2 HH
- 0.4/1 A18-49

First line
Viewers above are the total number of viewers watching, it is an average for the duration of the show. Paid subscribers can get breakdowns of the show duration down to the minute by minute level in some cases.

Second line
The total household rating followed by the share.
The Household rating is expressed as a percentage and is calculated by dividing the number of households watching by the total number of households possible (often referred to as a universe).
Households Watching / Total Households * 100 = HH rating percentage

The share is also expressed as a percentage and is calculated by dividing the number of households watching by the number of households with TV's turned on for that particular time period.
Households Watching / Households Using TV * 100 = HH share percentage

Third line
Is similar to the second line but is specifically for the sub group of people in the Adult 18 to 49 years of age range.


/ = divide
* = multiply

So if I have this right….

1, 479, 000 viewers watched the show
0.9% of all possible households watched the show (even if they had their TVs off that night)
2% of the households actually watching TV Friday night at 10 EDT watched
0.4% of all adults aged 18-49 watched (even if they had their TVs off that night)
And 1% of the adults actually watching TV Friday night at 10 EDT watched.

I think Sally and a lot of other people are probably wondering, “Are these good ratings?” Unfortunately, it's not a simple answer. "Good" depends on a lot of other factors that we know nothing about including the subscription cost for Syfy, C3 ratings, the ratings in other key demographics, and Syfy’s primetime average ratings.

But considering Sanctuary not only got renewed with these kinds of ratings last season but got a 20 episode order, I would say that Sanctuary is doing just fine for now. I would only start to worry if it dropped below 1,000,000 viewers. It would be nice if it would go up a bit in the household ratings and the 18-49 demographic, but even there it is still doing about what it was during the second half of the last season.

In fact, the share ratings really have remained fairly steady from last season to this one. But like suse, I'm just glad the viewer rating are going up a bit. Maybe by the end of the season, the household ratings and share will be up too. :)

Rocky89
November 1st, 2010, 07:52 PM
People, we are ALL Sanctuary fans, we all have the same goals, and want to see the same things. We want to see the show do well, grow, evolve, succeed, and for the ratings to go/stay up, and it did tonight. We got what we wanted again, and this is NOT the time to argue, or whatever, this is a time to come together, and be proud of our show, just as the cast and crew our. They work very hard to bring us this show, all we have to do is sit back, and enjoy it. When the ratings go up, it's a time to celebrate and be proud, and when they go down, we still come together and talk about how bad it is, or how good it can be and so on.

This is our show, our show to enjoy, and be proud of, ratings going up is definitely a reason to be proud, NOT to cause... *this*. Sanctuary fans should NOT be fighting or arguing about something that we should be celebrating over, this is cause to be happy, and feel comforted that for this week, we're safe no cause for concern. The ratings are up, so lets enjoy that, and worry when they go down. Enjoy now, worry later.

hedwig
November 1st, 2010, 08:46 PM
i'm... predicting...

:S

1.481

it's tiny, but up! :p

Just to throw my 2 cents in (or, a few viewer numbers:D), I predict 1.490 ... just for the heck of it. :D

NoCleverSig
November 2nd, 2010, 10:13 AM
Honestly, I don't really care what the numbers are just what they mean. Divide, multiply, whatever....tells me nothing really. They're just numbers. Unless I can put them into some kind of context, they mean nothing. Anyone able to do that? As someone just said, is this good, bad, neutral compared to other Syfy products, or is it simply too early to tell?

Bottom line: Are these good enough "numbers" to get the show renewed, or, again, is it simply too early to tell. And when are we likely to tell?

Thanks for the info!

ann_sgcfan
November 2nd, 2010, 11:25 AM
The ratings debate has gone on for years - but really no one knows which ratings are considered good or bad. We don't know what SyFy is looking for. The ratings could be exceeding their expectations, could be right on target or it could be lower than they hoped. How much money is Syfy pouring into Sanctuary and how much return on their investment are they getting? We don't know.

Bottom line - We can't control it, other than to watch and tell others about the show. As a fan all we can do is celebrate when we see the numbers go up. Don't panic if then numbers go down. How much is enough - Again we don't know (see a pattern yet :P). People can can give their opinion of what they think is bad or good, but in the end - it only matters what SyFy decides.

So why not celebrate that more people are watching whether that's 10 people or 100,000 (which is the population of a small city). So just have fun with the ratings ... and don't get too wrapped up in them.

NoCleverSig
November 2nd, 2010, 12:23 PM
The ratings debate has gone on for years - but really no one knows which ratings are considered good or bad. We don't know what SyFy is looking for. The ratings could be exceeding their expectations, could be right on target or it could be lower than they hoped. How much money is Syfy pouring into Sanctuary and how much return on their investment are they getting? We don't know.

Bottom line - We can't control it, other than to watch and tell others about the show. As a fan all we can do is celebrate when we see the numbers go up. Don't panic if then numbers go down. How much is enough - Again we don't know (see a pattern yet :P). People can can give their opinion of what they think is bad or good, but in the end - it only matters what SyFy decides.

So why not celebrate that more people are watching whether that's 10 people or 100,000 (which is the population of a small city). So just have fun with the ratings ... and don't get too wrapped up in them.

Most excellent advice: Let go of things I cannot control....Now can you help me with the rest of my life? ;) Seriously, good advice. Just watch, spread the news, and enjoy. Thanks for the reminder!

nc

Briangate78
November 2nd, 2010, 04:08 PM
Here some new numbers release today...

SyFy's Primetime average for Week of October 25-31, 2010'

1,286,000 Million viewers

Sanctuary - Bank Job

1,479,000 Million viewers

+15%

*In a nutshell a show that performs above the network average is usually in good shape unless other factors like costs get into the way. My opinion, Sanctuary is doing well, and a renewal should happen if they can keep building from this audience. That is just my opinion of course. Not trying to mislead anyone, but having numbers above the network average is always a good start.*

majorsal
November 2nd, 2010, 04:19 PM
Here some new numbers release today...

SyFy's Primetime average for Week of October 25-31, 2010'

1,286,000 Million viewers

Sanctuary - Bank Job

1,479,000 Million viewers

+15%

*In a nutshell a show that performs above the network average is usually in good shape unless other factors like costs get into the way. My opinion, Sanctuary is doing well, and a renewal should happen if they can keep building from this audience. That is just my opinion of course. Not trying to mislead anyone, but having numbers above the network average is always a good start.*

thanks, brian! :)

(i started to spell brain... :S :p)

chrono trigger
November 2nd, 2010, 04:21 PM
the numbers went up so im happy lets face it they could have gone down.

Briangate78
November 2nd, 2010, 04:30 PM
the numbers went up so im happy lets face it they could have gone down.

I love your sig! :p

chrono trigger
November 2nd, 2010, 05:23 PM
I love your sig! :p

thanks it is the truth the old final fantasys are some of the best games ever made:)

Rocky89
November 2nd, 2010, 07:14 PM
Here some new numbers release today...

SyFy's Primetime average for Week of October 25-31, 2010'

1,286,000 Million viewers

Sanctuary - Bank Job

1,479,000 Million viewers

+15%

*In a nutshell a show that performs above the network average is usually in good shape unless other factors like costs get into the way. My opinion, Sanctuary is doing well, and a renewal should happen if they can keep building from this audience. That is just my opinion of course. Not trying to mislead anyone, but having numbers above the network average is always a good start.*

Hehe, this is good news, indeed. :)


thanks it is the truth the old final fantasys are some of the best games ever made:)

Final Fantasy 9 is the best. ;) Then again, that's the only FF I've ever played. :D

jelgate
November 2nd, 2010, 07:20 PM
I'm reving my predicition to 1.5. I forgot its a Tesla episode

Briangate78
November 2nd, 2010, 07:47 PM
I'm reving my predicition to 1.5. I forgot its a Tesla episode

The previews looked good. Just have to hope they can build from the recent uptick.

majorsal
November 2nd, 2010, 07:49 PM
The previews looked good. Just have to hope they can build from the recent uptick.

if it stays where it is now, brian, will it still be alright?

i'm hoping this show goes to at least season 5. i'm thinking long term here :p

jelgate
November 2nd, 2010, 07:51 PM
if it stays where it is now, brian, will it still be alright?

i'm hoping this show goes to at least season 5. i'm thinking long term here :p

Nothing is certain in ratings but I wager its more likely then not.

MagnusCarter
November 3rd, 2010, 01:27 PM
Hi everyone. Longtime fan, but this is my first post .... when will we know if it's been picked up again? Thanks!

Rocky89
November 3rd, 2010, 04:38 PM
Hi everyone. Longtime fan, but this is my first post .... when will we know if it's been picked up again? Thanks!

Hi, nice to meet you. :)

We won't know for another few weeks(episodes). So until then, lets all enjoy it, and hope for more. :D

majorsal
November 3rd, 2010, 04:40 PM
Hi everyone. Longtime fan, but this is my first post .... when will we know if it's been picked up again? Thanks!

i 'think' they'll want to run at least half the season (10 eps) and see how they do in the ratings, before deciding on renewal. :)

Rocky89
November 3rd, 2010, 04:45 PM
i 'think' they'll want to run at least half the season (10 eps) and see how they do in the ratings, before deciding on renewal. :)

The show was renewed for S2 around the time Kush aired, and renewed for S3 around the time Penance aired so.... yeah, hopefully the numbers will still be very good by then. :)

majorsal
November 3rd, 2010, 04:50 PM
The show was renewed for S2 around the time Kush aired, and renewed for S3 around the time Penance aired so.... yeah, hopefully the numbers will still be very good by then. :)

how many eps into each season where those eps?

Rocky89
November 3rd, 2010, 04:51 PM
how many eps into each season where those eps?

Kush was episode 5, and Penance was episode 9. :)

majorsal
November 3rd, 2010, 05:00 PM
Kush was episode 5, and Penance was episode 9. :)

thanks, rocky. :)

i'm thinking, with their longer season now, it'll be closer to what 'penance' confirmation was.

kes
November 4th, 2010, 03:39 AM
I'm betting later then ep 9. I'm betting its going to be ep 13/14. Meaning after it returns from the mid season break.

RealmOfX
November 4th, 2010, 04:10 AM
I'm betting later then ep 9. I'm betting its going to be ep 13/14. Meaning after it returns from the mid season break.

That is extremely doubtful, I can't see them waiting until April to make a decision. Renew/cancel decisions from Syfy usually come by mid December for Fall shows.

jelgate
November 4th, 2010, 05:09 AM
Renewal or cancelliation I think will be sometime in the mid-season break. Maybe December but January is possible too. No later then that though

kes
November 4th, 2010, 05:40 AM
That is extremely doubtful, I can't see them waiting until April to make a decision. Renew/cancel decisions from Syfy usually come by mid December for Fall shows.

Could be right. But something smells funny this year. lol

Briangate78
November 4th, 2010, 06:20 AM
That is extremely doubtful, I can't see them waiting until April to make a decision. Renew/cancel decisions from Syfy usually come by mid December for Fall shows.

Sanctuary has 20 eps this season. So I would think there would be a mid-season break, right? That is likely when they will make a decision and announcement.

RealmOfX
November 4th, 2010, 10:20 PM
Could be right. But something smells funny this year. lol

In what way?

RealmOfX
November 4th, 2010, 10:37 PM
Sanctuary has 20 eps this season. So I would think there would be a mid-season break, right? That is likely when they will make a decision and announcement.

With Syfy going for year round programming I'd say so, ep 10 is supposed to air Dec 17, so I'd say sometime around then. The season finale is supposed to air in Spring so I'm assuming it will follow the SGU airing pattern for last year - April through June. (I sooooooooooooooooooooo do not agree with split seasons).

kes
November 5th, 2010, 03:27 AM
In what way?

I'm not sure. Just something doesnt feel right. I dont fear Sanctuary wont get a S04. So far its doing good. But after what happen to Caprica I guess I just cant see Syfy making a decision before the show comes back from the break.
I hope they do and I hope the break isnt to long.

Briangate78
November 5th, 2010, 08:03 AM
With Syfy going for year round programming I'd say so, ep 10 is supposed to air Dec 17, so I'd say sometime around then. The season finale is supposed to air in Spring so I'm assuming it will follow the SGU airing pattern for last year - April through June. (I sooooooooooooooooooooo do not agree with split seasons).

Neither do I. I think it hurts the shows.

jelgate
November 5th, 2010, 09:42 AM
Neither do I. I think it hurts the shows.

SG1 and SGA seemed to do fine all those years

RealmOfX
November 8th, 2010, 01:38 PM
Sanctuary
- 1.257 million viewers
- 0.8/1 HH
- 0.4/1 A18-49

NoCleverSig
November 8th, 2010, 01:59 PM
Sanctuary
- 1.257 million viewers
- 0.8/1 HH
- 0.4/1 A18-49

I wonder if Kate cat suit will be a bigger draw post-wrestling than Tesla was, since (God love him), you sort of have to be a fan of the show to appreciate. Just wondering out loud...

NoCleverSig
November 8th, 2010, 02:06 PM
I wonder if Kate cat suit will be a bigger draw post-wrestling than Tesla was, since (God love him), you sort of have to be a fan of the show to appreciate. Just wondering out loud...

BTW "God Love 'em" is sort of a Southern U.S. thing we say when someone is a twit but you want to be nice about it ;) Heh

majorsal
November 8th, 2010, 02:26 PM
Sanctuary
- 1.257 million viewers
- 0.8/1 HH
- 0.4/1 A18-49

okay, it lost viewers again. so what's the official rating point?

and that's to anyone out there that understands the numbers game.

Mandysg1
November 8th, 2010, 02:56 PM
okay, it lost viewers again. so what's the official rating point?

and that's to anyone out there that understands the numbers game.

The 0.8 is the national rating point, if you link back to the first page and post, Rox also has the SyFy ratings. Which in this case is a 1.06

Edti: Ooops the 1.06 is last weeks SyFy rating, Rox hasn't added this episode's yet.

jelgate
November 8th, 2010, 03:53 PM
okay, it lost viewers again. so what's the official rating point?

and that's to anyone out there that understands the numbers game.

0.9 maybe a 1.0 if you asking about the SyFy coverage ratings. I'll let ROX posts the actual number because I don't really know how he calculates it.

majorsal
November 8th, 2010, 03:58 PM
The 0.8 is the national rating point, if you link back to the first page and post, Rox also has the SyFy ratings. Which in this case is a 1.06

Edti: Ooops the 1.06 is last weeks SyFy rating, Rox hasn't added this episode's yet.


0.9 maybe a 1.0 if you asking about the SyFy coverage ratings. I'll let ROX posts the actual number because I don't really know how he calculates it.

thanks, guys. :)

Mandysg1
November 8th, 2010, 04:51 PM
0.9 maybe a 1.0 if you asking about the SyFy coverage ratings. I'll let ROX posts the actual number because I don't really know how he calculates it.

She posted it as 0.95.

suse
November 8th, 2010, 07:43 PM
That is extremely doubtful, I can't see them waiting until April to make a decision. Renew/cancel decisions from Syfy usually come by mid December for Fall shows.

If only because the show needs to know it if should prepare for production - which is Feb/March, if Syfy wants the shows in October. Sanctuary needs as HUGE lead time because of the green screen.

majorsal
November 11th, 2010, 04:10 PM
my prediction for fri's new ep -broken arrow...


majorsal - 1.359 million viewers

Briangate78
November 12th, 2010, 05:50 AM
Wanted to share this with you, so you can see how Sanctuary is doing vs the other shows on the network. Most of these are from last week's numbers....


Tuesday:

Stargate Universe (9pm)
- 0.967 million viewers
- 0.7/1 HH
- 0.4/1 A18-49

Wednesday:

Ghost Hunters (9pm)
- 1.812 million viewers
- 1.1/2 HH
- 0.8/2 A18-49

Hollywood Treasure (10pm)
- 1.133 million viewers
- 0.7/1 HH
- 0.5/1 A18-49

Hollywood Treasure (10:30pm)
- 0.986 million viewers
- 0.6/1 HH
- 0.4/1 A18-49

Thursday:


Destination Truth (9pm)
- 1.185 million viewers
- 0.8/1 HH
- 0.5/1 A18-49

Fact or Faked
- 0.929 million viewers
- 0.6/1 HH
- 0.4/1 A18-49

Friday:

WWE Smackdown (120 minutes)
- 2.772 million viewers
- 1.5/3 HH
- 0.9/3 A18-49

Sanctuary
- 1.257 million viewers
- 0.8/1 HH
- 0.4/1 A18-49

llp
November 13th, 2010, 09:30 AM
I wonder if Kate cat suit will be a bigger draw post-wrestling than Tesla was, since (God love him), you sort of have to be a fan of the show to appreciate. Just wondering out loud...

Funny thing is, I was wondering the same thing! Although, I'll watch all the episodes. I did find this one a lot better then Hero 1. That one was a little to "campy" for me. This one seemed a lot better. One thing though. Didn't the bad guy's voice sound like the bad guy in Kali? Not only their accents, but the sounds of their voices. Very strange.

nesais
November 13th, 2010, 10:44 AM
Hero 2: Broken Arrow predictions

majorsal - 1.359 million viewers
nesais - 1.35 million viewers

hedwig
November 13th, 2010, 11:16 AM
Hero 2: Broken Arrow predictions

majorsal - 1.359 million viewers
nesais - 1.35 million viewers
hedwign - 1.31 million viewers

chrono trigger
November 13th, 2010, 05:35 PM
Hero 2: Broken Arrow predictions

majorsal - 1.359 million viewers
nesais - 1.35 million viewers
hedwign - 1.31 million viewers
chrono trigger - 1.236 million viewers

siles
November 13th, 2010, 08:06 PM
Hero 2: Broken Arrow predictions

majorsal - 1.359 million viewers
nesais - 1.35 million viewers
hedwign - 1.31 million viewers
chrono trigger - 1.236 million viewers-

siles - 1.25 mil viewers

chrono trigger
November 14th, 2010, 05:49 AM
Hero 2: Broken Arrow predictions

majorsal - 1.359 million viewers
nesais - 1.35 million viewers
hedwign - 1.31 million viewers
chrono trigger - 1.236 million viewers
siles - 1.25 mil viewers

siles i hope you dont mind i just put your prediction on the list properly so it doesnt get overlooked if you get it right.:)

Briangate78
November 14th, 2010, 12:04 PM
This is funny, Tvbythenumbers decided to do the same week I did above, and here were the results...

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/11/14/syfy-weekly-viewing-top-10-smackdown-ghost-hunters-sanctuary-lead-stargate-universe-not-in-top-10/71997

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b253/marcm1978/ratings11.jpg

Good news for Sanctuary fans. You have a series that does not cost Syfy as much, and it is in the top 5 of programming. In my honest opinion, Sanctuary is in good shape if they can at least hold their numbers.

nesais
November 14th, 2010, 12:14 PM
This is funny, Tvbythenumbers decided to do the same week I did above, and here were the results...

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/11/14/syfy-weekly-viewing-top-10-smackdown-ghost-hunters-sanctuary-lead-stargate-universe-not-in-top-10/71997

Good news for Sanctuary fans. You have a series that does not cost Syfy as much, and it is in the top 5 of programming. In my honest opinion, Sanctuary is in good shape if they can at least hold their numbers.

sanctuarys lowest this season still better than sgus best for this season. good for sanctuary bad for sgu. thanks for posting that brian. i think sanctuary will do good enough for this season. they'll have some awesome magnus episodes, some nice developments with plotlines leading up to some cool cliffhangers. along with some awesome guest stars. this season will be better than ever.

RealmOfX
November 14th, 2010, 01:36 PM
sanctuarys lowest this season still better than sgus best for this season. good for sanctuary bad for sgu. thanks for posting that brian. i think sanctuary will do good enough for this season. they'll have some awesome magnus episodes, some nice developments with plotlines leading up to some cool cliffhangers. along with some awesome guest stars. this season will be better than ever.

I think it would be best to not get anywhere near a Sanctuary / SGU contest vibe here. Try and keep it on an analysis basis for Sanctuary alone. I'm not saying that this is what you are doing here but I can see it heading down that road between the two fandoms if people are not careful and nobody likes a public [email protected]@@@ing contest between fandoms, it brings disrepute on everyone.

Last week was Sanctuary's lowest ever Live+SD viewers and I'd personally feel better if it went up. It still remains above the Syfy primetime average though so that is good but like last season, IMO, it's in the bottom end of "good" and heading down towards "average". However on the upside, based on the first 9 airings last season Sanctuary not only got renewed on Syfy but got an increased ep order, the average (Live+SD) at that point was 1,570,000 and currently the average is 1,475,750 (not including last Fridays). So I think we are still in "good" territory for the moment.

majorsal
November 14th, 2010, 01:49 PM
(snip)

Good news for Sanctuary fans. You have a series that does not cost Syfy as much, and it is in the top 5 of programming. In my honest opinion, Sanctuary is in good shape if they can at least hold their numbers.

thanks for passing that along, brian! :D

~brings some relief to my s4 renewal hopes~

Briangate78
November 14th, 2010, 02:17 PM
Last week was Sanctuary's lowest ever Live+SD viewers and I'd personally feel better if it went up. It still remains above the Syfy primetime average though so that is good but like last season, IMO, it's in the bottom end of "good" and heading down towards "average". However on the upside, based on the first 9 airings last season Sanctuary not only got renewed on Syfy but got an increased ep order, the average (Live+SD) at that point was 1,570,000 and currently the average is 1,475,750 (not including last Fridays). So I think we are still in "good" territory for the moment.

If Sanctuary can have some of their key eps, like mid-season finales, mid-season premieres, and Season finales have a nice uptick, that will help that average stay up, even when the other middle eps dip. This is a new thing for Sanctuary with 20 eps. I do hope we see some steady increases over the next few eps. But to be the #4 show on the network that week, not too bad at all, imo.

majorsal
November 14th, 2010, 02:26 PM
If Sanctuary can have some of their key eps, like mid-season finales, mid-season premieres, and Season finales have a nice uptick, that will help that average stay up, even when the other middle eps dip. This is a new thing for Sanctuary with 20 eps. I do hope we see some steady increases over the next few eps. But to be the #4 show on the network that week, not too bad at all, imo.

yeah, considering that it was it's lowest so far. :p

here's a question for you, brian. if the show was renewed on the ratings it's getting now, but for some horrible reason started going down (to caprica's numbers); could the network change their minds and cancel it anyways, even after saying they'd do a 4th season?

and, if sanct stayed right in that 1.2 viewers range, do you think it could still be renewed?

i know i'm asking a lot, but i'll just take your opinion. :p

nesais
November 14th, 2010, 02:42 PM
yeah, considering that it was it's lowest so far. :p

here's a question for you, brian. if the show was renewed on the ratings it's getting now, but for some horrible reason started going down (to caprica's numbers); could the network change their minds and cancel it anyways, even after saying they'd do a 4th season?

and, if sanct stayed right in that 1.2 viewers range, do you think it could still be renewed?

i know i'm asking a lot, but i'll just take your opinion. :p

word on 4th season renewal will come in january? apologies if its already been said in this thread my eyes cant handle pages of comments right now

Briangate78
November 14th, 2010, 02:48 PM
yeah, considering that it was it's lowest so far. :p

here's a question for you, brian. if the show was renewed on the ratings it's getting now, but for some horrible reason started going down (to caprica's numbers); could the network change their minds and cancel it anyways, even after saying they'd do a 4th season?

and, if sanct stayed right in that 1.2 viewers range, do you think it could still be renewed?

i know i'm asking a lot, but i'll just take your opinion. :p

They would have to get really low for the network to pull it, but then if they did they would eventually air them. When a renewal decision is made the network basically pays for the season, it's not like they pay as the episode airs. So most likely if Sanctuary is renewed for a 4th season it will air in it's entirely. If the numbers begin to a decline where the show is not making a profit anymore, they will just not renew it for a 5th season. Cable shows and Major Network shows are in two different boats.

Briangate78
November 14th, 2010, 02:51 PM
word on 4th season renewal will come in january? apologies if its already been said in this thread my eyes cant handle pages of comments right now

This is Sanctuary's first time with 20 eps, so they would likely make a decision half way through, which I guess would be Dec/Jan? It should be interesting what happens with the schedule. I am hoping they do what they did with SGA and let it run straight through with no or at least a very little hiatus. But I don't think that will happen.

Rocky89
November 14th, 2010, 02:52 PM
word on 4th season renewal will come in january? apologies if its already been said in this thread my eyes cant handle pages of comments right now

Well, word came out that S1 was renewed for S2 on Nov 14, that's when The Five aired. S2 was renewed for S3 on Dec 14, around the time Penance aired.

I know I said Kush once before, and that was my mistake. :p

majorsal
November 14th, 2010, 03:57 PM
thanks, brian. :)

RealmOfX
November 14th, 2010, 04:06 PM
If Sanctuary can have some of their key eps, like mid-season finales, mid-season premieres, and Season finales have a nice uptick, that will help that average stay up, even when the other middle eps dip. This is a new thing for Sanctuary with 20 eps. I do hope we see some steady increases over the next few eps. But to be the #4 show on the network that week, not too bad at all, imo.

Yep, not too shabby at all. That's what I'm hoping will happen that as the back 5 of the first half season air and ramps up to the midseason finale that the ratings ramp up as well. :D

Melora
November 15th, 2010, 01:48 PM
Just posted by Travis Yanan:

Sanctuary
- 1.574 million viewers
- 1.0/2 HH
- 0.5/2 A18-49

:D

I guess majorsal was closest, but none of our predictors were close. I have to say that I'm rather glad about that. Let's hope the number doesn't go down again.


ETA: Ratings for WWE SD -

WWE Smackdown (120 minutes)
- 2.696 million viewers
- 1.5/3 HH
- 0.9/3 A18-49

Rocky89
November 15th, 2010, 01:50 PM
Just posted by Travis Yanan:

Sanctuary
- 1.574 million viewers
- 1.0/2 HH
- 0.5/2 A18-49

:D

Woo hoo, THAT'S what I'm talking about! :D

Briangate78
November 15th, 2010, 02:03 PM
Now that is a nice uptick! eh Realm!? :p

Sanctuary is in good shape, imo. It shows they can bounce back nicely even after a low. What is that a 300,000 viewer uptick?

Also, to add the 18 to 49 demo went up as well!

nesais
November 15th, 2010, 02:04 PM
Just posted by Travis Yanan:

Sanctuary
- 1.574 million viewers
- 1.0/2 HH
- 0.5/2 A18-49

:D

I guess majorsal was closest, but none of our predictors were close. I have to say that I'm rather glad about that. Let's hope the number doesn't go down again.


ETA: Ratings for WWE SD -

WWE Smackdown (120 minutes)
- 2.696 million viewers
- 1.5/3 HH
- 0.9/3 A18-49

woot! glad to see it go back to better numbers. grats majorsal. i'm glad all the guess were wrong too :P

majorsal - 1.359 million viewers
nesais - 1.35 million viewers
hedwign - 1.31 million viewers
chrono trigger - 1.236 million viewers
siles - 1.25 mil viewers

i wonder if thats a boost from the tesla ep. last week or what. or do wrestlers get the promo with kate in leather during their ad breaks? :P

Animus predictions

nesais - 1.49 mil

NoCleverSig
November 15th, 2010, 02:10 PM
Just posted by Travis Yanan:

Sanctuary
- 1.574 million viewers
- 1.0/2 HH
- 0.5/2 A18-49

:D

I guess majorsal was closest, but none of our predictors were close. I have to say that I'm rather glad about that. Let's hope the number doesn't go down again.




Yay for Kate and her cat suit! ;)

Rocky89
November 15th, 2010, 02:13 PM
Now that is a nice uptick! eh Realm!? :p

Sanctuary is in good shape, imo. It shows they can bounce back nicely even after a low. What is that a 300,000 viewer uptick?

Also, to add the 18 to 49 demo went up as well!

Hehe, it did very well indeed, and am I correct in assuming this is the second hightest in the season?


woot! glad to see it go back to better numbers. grats majorsal. i'm glad all the guess were wrong too :P

majorsal - 1.359 million viewers
nesais - 1.35 million viewers
hedwign - 1.31 million viewers
chrono trigger - 1.236 million viewers
siles - 1.25 mil viewers

i wonder if thats a boost from the tesla ep. last week or what. or do wrestlers get the promo with kate in leather during their ad breaks? :P

Animus predictions

nesais - 1.49 mil

Well, Sally won, and looks like she gets green for winning. :D

@TVbytheNumbers Friday Cable Ratings: Sanctuary Rises +Friday Night Smackdown!, Avalon High, NBA, Wizards of Waverly & More http://bit.ly/cptbGW

I like what I see here. :D

majorsal
November 15th, 2010, 02:25 PM
Just posted by Travis Yanan:

Sanctuary
- 1.574 million viewers
- 1.0/2 HH
- 0.5/2 A18-49

:D

I guess majorsal was closest, but none of our predictors were close. I have to say that I'm rather glad about that. Let's hope the number doesn't go down again.


ETA: Ratings for WWE SD -

WWE Smackdown (120 minutes)
- 2.696 million viewers
- 1.5/3 HH
- 0.9/3 A18-49

woo hoo!! :D

~yes, i know they could go down, even next week~

but the viewer totals rose, and i'm danged happy about it! :D

majorsal
November 15th, 2010, 02:34 PM
woot! glad to see it go back to better numbers. grats majorsal. i'm glad all the guess were wrong too :P

majorsal - 1.359 million viewers
nesais - 1.35 million viewers
hedwign - 1.31 million viewers
chrono trigger - 1.236 million viewers
siles - 1.25 mil viewers

i wonder if thats a boost from the tesla ep. last week or what. or do wrestlers get the promo with kate in leather during their ad breaks? :P

i'm thinking it 'leather, women, must watch!' for ye ol' wrestlers. :p


Animus predictions

nesais - 1.49 mil
majorsal - 1.421

nesais
November 15th, 2010, 02:49 PM
i'm thinking it 'leather, women, must watch!' for ye ol' wrestlers. :p

hehe, let's hope they like werewolves too

majorsal
November 15th, 2010, 02:54 PM
hehe, let's hope they like werewolves too

i was thinking exactly the same thing! :p

though i'm not really sure how much of the wrestlers are hanging on to watch the show. was smackdown's ratings up or down from last week?

as i told rocky, i'm expecting and up/down with the series. (i think brian is the one that said how sga did that, and that he thinks sanct will do it too. i think so too)

but anyways, i'm sighing in relief that it went up (which is MUCH better than it going down! :p). :)

Briangate78
November 15th, 2010, 02:55 PM
This is really a good sign for Sanctuary that they can uptick like that. It is the 2nd best number for the season so far. If they can continue upticking to the mid-season finale that will certainly help to retain viewers for the 2nd half.

Rocky89
November 15th, 2010, 03:03 PM
This is really a good sign for Sanctuary that they can uptick like that. It is the 2nd best number for the season so far. If they can continue upticking to the mid-season finale that will certainly help to retain viewers for the 2nd half.

Indeed, I'll admit I wasn't expecting it to go up that much, so I was happy and surprised when it went up as much as it did. I know it's bound to go back down again, but as long as it can rebound like it has like this, I''ll continue to be happy. :)

nesais
November 15th, 2010, 03:12 PM
i was thinking exactly the same thing! :p

though i'm not really sure how much of the wrestlers are hanging on to watch the show. was smackdown's ratings up or down from last week?

as i told rocky, i'm expecting and up/down with the series. (i think brian is the one that said how sga did that, and that he thinks sanct will do it too. i think so too)

but anyways, i'm sighing in relief that it went up (which is MUCH better than it going down! :p). :)

looking at wwe vs. sanc., where sanc. prem. 3rd week of wwe:

18th oct.

WWE Smackdown (120 minutes)
- 2.876 million viewers
- 1.6/3 HH
- 0.9/3 A18-49

Sanctuary
- 1.787 million viewers
- 1.1/2 HH
- 0.6/2 A18-49

25th oct.:

WWE Smackdown (120 minutes)
- 2.662 million viewers
- 1.5/3 HH
- 0.7/3 A18-49

Sanctuary
- 1.380 million viewers
- 0.9/2 HH
- 0.4/1 A18-49

1st nov.:

WWE Smackdown (120 minutes)
- 2.443 million viewers
- 1.4/3 HH
- 0.7/2 A18-49

Sanctuary
- 1.479 million viewers
- 0.9/2 HH
- 0.4/1 A18-49

8th nov.:

WWE Smackdown (120 minutes)
- 2.772 million viewers
- 1.5/3 HH
- 0.9/3 A18-49

Sanctuary
- 1.257 million viewers
- 0.8/1 HH
- 0.4/1 A18-49

15th nov.:

WWE Smackdown (120 minutes)
- 2.696 million viewers
- 1.5/3 HH
- 0.9/3 A18-49

Sanctuary
- 1.574 million viewers
- 1.0/2 HH
- 0.5/2 A18-49

wwe tbtn link (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/tag/wwe-friday-night-smackdown-ratings)

there's really no way to tell if wwe guys hang around for sanctuary, and there is no correlation whatsoever (correlation using my eyes :P), one week wwe goes up while sanc. goes down, the next week its the opposite.

hang around for more of my pointless endeavours :P

majorsal
November 15th, 2010, 03:24 PM
looking at wwe vs. sanc., where sanc. prem. 3rd week of wwe:

18th oct.

WWE Smackdown (120 minutes)
- 2.876 million viewers
- 1.6/3 HH
- 0.9/3 A18-49

Sanctuary
- 1.787 million viewers
- 1.1/2 HH
- 0.6/2 A18-49

25th oct.:

WWE Smackdown (120 minutes)
- 2.662 million viewers
- 1.5/3 HH
- 0.7/3 A18-49

Sanctuary
- 1.380 million viewers
- 0.9/2 HH
- 0.4/1 A18-49

1st nov.:

WWE Smackdown (120 minutes)
- 2.443 million viewers
- 1.4/3 HH
- 0.7/2 A18-49

Sanctuary
- 1.479 million viewers
- 0.9/2 HH
- 0.4/1 A18-49

8th nov.:

WWE Smackdown (120 minutes)
- 2.772 million viewers
- 1.5/3 HH
- 0.9/3 A18-49

Sanctuary
- 1.257 million viewers
- 0.8/1 HH
- 0.4/1 A18-49

15th nov.:

WWE Smackdown (120 minutes)
- 2.696 million viewers
- 1.5/3 HH
- 0.9/3 A18-49

Sanctuary
- 1.574 million viewers
- 1.0/2 HH
- 0.5/2 A18-49

wwe tbtn link (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/tag/wwe-friday-night-smackdown-ratings)

there's really no way to tell if wwe guys hang around for sanctuary, and there is no correlation whatsoever (correlation using my eyes :P), one week wwe goes up while sanc. goes down, the next week its the opposite.

hang around for more of my pointless endeavours :P


i like your pointless endeavors! :p

and you're right, they don't really seem to flow off/effect each other, so who knows if they're a tag team or not. :p


just basically, as long as syfy feels the numbers are good enough for a renewal, i'll be greatly, greatly happy! :D :p

nesais
November 15th, 2010, 03:40 PM
i like your pointless endeavors! :p

and you're right, they don't really seem to flow off/effect each other, so who knows if they're a tag team or not. :p


just basically, as long as syfy feels the numbers are good enough for a renewal, i'll be greatly, greatly happy! :D :p

lol. i'm glad you like my pointless endeavours, here's another one:

let's compare haven and sanctuary. season 1 of haven prem. with 2.34mil, bounced around just under the 2mil mark then went to 1.41mil for ep 11 then coming back to 1.69 mil for the 13th ep the season finale

sanctuary season one pops out a very nice 2.7 mil, gets as low as 1.52mil in the 11th ep, then bounces back to 2mil for the 13th ep the season finale.

sanctuary season two pops out a reasonable 1.85mil for a season 2 prem., goes as low as 1.328mil for ep 8, then bounces back a little for 1.493mil.

haven seems to be performing in between sanctuary season 1 and 2. why in the world am i comparing these two shows? because i havent had my coffee yet, but given that syfy renews haven, sanctuary was already doing quite well compared to a show that got renewed. what works in sanctuarys anti-favour? rising costs, higher costs to begin with maybe? wait, let's summarise that as "costs". is this show profitable? i could walk down to the nearest shopping center, i live in perth, australia, the target down the road is one of the smallest i've ever seen and even it has season 1 and 2 of sanctuary (damn right i bought it :P), so it surely has the cash to lower whatever fee syfy pays even if it needed to. imo, it does not need to even think about this, i think it's doing very well.

now, here's where a 20 ep order becomes interesting. it isnt the same as a 13 ep order, but it might behave somewhat similarly. let's assume it wont be too different to a 13 ep order in its ratings behaviour. in which case a direct comparison to haven wouldnt be too unreasonable. although my opinions certainly are unqualified :P

season 3 prems. with 1.787mil, less than 100k less than the season 2 prem (quite a good achievement), its been bouncy since then, but this is quite good imo, why? well, let's say the average of this bouncing is 1.4mil (just a guess), it's better to bounce below and then above this average than to stick at this average, why do i reckon this? because it demonstrates that the show has more potential viewers than its averaging. this would hold true especially if sanctuary bounces back to one of its higher numbers, such as the recent figure. this is all an unqualified imo, but i think if i was a syfy exec. sanctuary would be getting a season 4 from me.

i mean, breach, and for king and country have been some of the creators favorite eps right? and that is followed by the midseason finale, this means: a good build up to a good cliffhanger. sound like a recipe for success? i dunno, but it sounds like a recipe i'll be sinking my teeth into this december

btw forgive my australian spelling

edit: ohhh, and not to mention, having sanctuary on the air for more episodes in a given year will mean it gets more noticed by syfy viewers who dont already watch it. although the average syfy viewer has probably given it a shot already. but i think, the more screen time it gets during a year the better off it is.

this would've been a great season to add ashley back in the mix, ya know, for those wwe fans, girls in leather :P