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April 26th, 2004, 02:02 PM
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<FONT SIZE=1>EPISODE NUMBER - 114</FONT>
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A mysterious affliction wipes out the entire population of a planet, plus an SG team -- except for one young girl. Carter befriends her, but learns that she is being used by the Goa'uld.

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jenniferhailey
May 3rd, 2004, 11:10 AM
My most watched SG Episode ever. Singularity is awesome.

Katie Stuart is one of my favourite actresses, and I liked her a lot better than that annoying replacement. In fact Im a huge Katie fan and co-run a website for her.

Note: Katie was replaced only because she was filming her own tv show.

I love the whole bomb plot line and the Sam/Cass relationship. It's such a sweet episode! :D :D :D :D

Slainte
May 3rd, 2004, 04:06 PM
I like "Singularity", too. It sets the stage for the relationships between Cassie, Sam and Janet, and it also gives us an insight into Sam's psyche.
I'm always a sucker for character development stories.
"Singularity" along with "Solitudes" are my two most rewatched eps in S1.
Slainte gg

SamInChicago
May 5th, 2004, 01:19 PM
I'm a sucker for any episode with a kid in it, and I think Katie Stuart did a great job. That "Sam!" right before the door shuts just tears your heart out. Definitely one of the best of the season.

KorbenDirewolf
May 11th, 2004, 11:32 AM
Ah... well I never really like this episode all that much but its not one that I hate to watch. The naquadah/potassium reaction is pretty cool.

SeaBee
June 19th, 2004, 10:14 AM
I liked this ep.
It was well acted, Katie Stuart was excellent, and AT got to show some serious emotion in the lift. WOW! :D

Anubis
June 19th, 2004, 10:16 AM
The lift scene was cool. Did anyone see that mistake with the watch?

bcmilco
June 19th, 2004, 11:24 AM
what was the mistake?

Selmak
July 10th, 2004, 06:57 PM
I like the scene when Jack and Teal'c run through the gate with the suits on and there is an explosion and the disinfectant sprays.

Selmak
July 15th, 2004, 04:37 PM
what was the mistake?
I didn't catch it but a would assume... there was one then there wasn't.

Bagpuss
July 19th, 2004, 02:32 AM
I always thought the little goof with the appearing/disappearing watch was from "In the line of Duty" (S2),but maybe it happened in this episode too !
::Things to do when I get time : Rewatch Singularity :: ;)

Bagpuss
July 19th, 2004, 02:40 AM
I like "Singularity", too. It sets the stage for the relationships between Cassie, Sam and Janet, and it also gives us an insight into Sam's psyche.
I'm always a sucker for character development stories.
"Singularity" along with "Solitudes" are my two most rewatched eps in S1.
Slainte gg

I second all that,Slainte ! :D
Also,although we didn't see her "Onscreen", Nirrti was first introduced and the stage was set for her story arcs,and her nefarious schemes. :cool:

Selmak
July 26th, 2004, 05:02 PM
I wonder what the name of the episode signifies?

Major Fischer
August 16th, 2004, 09:20 PM
My guess is that it refers to the black hole (quantum singularity) that SG7 was originally on the world to study. It also has the double meaning of Cassandra being the single survivor.

My only regret in this is that we didn't get to see much of Janet's first trip through the gate. But that's a real minor thing...

Replicarter
September 4th, 2004, 01:53 PM
I loved the part where sam had to kil the girl, wait, that dident come out right. i mean the emotion in the scene and how sam lover her so much. though i do prefer the girl in Rite of Passage more.

zats
September 18th, 2004, 07:46 PM
Wow. I LOVED this ep. Great character development for Sam; it really added another dimension. She's not just Briefing Room Sam, people.

What was good:

a. Just about everything. Really.
b. The opening, with the "it could be an accretion disk" line. Came out of left field but was handled beautifully: "well, one can understand why the local population would...what did you say?!" Or something to that general effect.
c. The "Welcome to Hanka" sign. Really fun. I can just picture one of the SG teams getting bored, scrounging up some plywood and paint, and making the sign. I sense a fic!
d. Katie Stuart. She's adorable!
c. Janet. She. Rocks.
d. Sam!! AT was brilliant; the scene in the lift was super-powerful. Me mom cries during that part...but then she cries during Kodak commercials for that matter.
e. Jack. Didja notice he called her Sam? I'm not implying ship...nevermind that, I am...but it was cool. He understood what Cassie's imminent death was doing to her.
f. The dog. I don't like dogs much (looong story), but this was cute. ONLY Jack would've bought her the dog.

What wasn't so good:
Alas...

a. Some parts ran like a bad soap opera. When everyone but Sam's in the briefing room, Daniel says something ominously and everyone looks concernedly at the security camera feed in unison...I mean, get real.
b. Didn't Teal'c refer to Nirrti as "he"? In later eps, Nirrti is female. Although I suppose that the goa'uld could've just changed hosts; if shake comes to shove, I don't think that goa'uld really care about gender all that much. After all, Jolinar was hiding in a guy when she took Sam.

I was so happy when they brought Cassie back! Long live Cassandra!

Lord Zedd
September 19th, 2004, 05:43 AM
My most watched SG Episode ever. Singularity is awesome.

Katie Stuart is one of my favourite actresses, and I liked her a lot better than that annoying replacement. In fact Im a huge Katie fan and co-run a website for her.

Note: Katie was replaced only because she was filming her own tv show.

I love the whole bomb plot line and the Sam/Cass relationship. It's such a sweet episode! :D :D :D :D

This is one of the episodes that really how shall I say this,moved me.Poor Cassie,luckly she could stay on Earth and that SG-1 and Fraiser are so friendly for her.O'Neill bought her a dog :D

Uncle Dick
September 26th, 2004, 07:55 PM
b. Didn't Teal'c refer to Nirrti as "he"? In later eps, Nirrti is female. Although I suppose that the goa'uld could've just changed hosts; if shake comes to shove, I don't think that goa'uld really care about gender all that much.
Martouf established in The Tok'ra that the symbiotes themselves were genderless which also explains the gender confusion that accompanied Jolinar in In the Line of Duty.

This episode could have strayed into manipulative sappiness, but I think the balance of action (including the emblematic shot of the death glider strafing the Stargate that made it into the syndicated opening sequence), humor (Jack's telescope) and a new, ruthless threat kept the melodrama in check. Season 1 ruled.

Daniel's_twin
September 28th, 2004, 11:42 AM
This episode was great! We love this episode at home because it showed that Carter has more to her personality then just the "I have to prove I'm one of the guys" thing. What really showed this was (spoiler: highlight to read)when Sam was crying so hard when she left Cassy in that bomb testing facility. It was one of the most heartbreaking episodes they've done yet.

Oh, yeah. This is definitely one of their best. :cool:

zats
September 30th, 2004, 03:01 PM
Martouf established in The Tok'ra that the symbiotes themselves were genderless which also explains the gender confusion that accompanied Jolinar in In the Line of Duty.



That's right, I'd forgotten Jolinar. :rolleyes: And Selmac, for that matter--wasn't it (for lack of a better term) in a woman before moving to Jacob?

Major Fischer
September 30th, 2004, 03:17 PM
That's right, I'd forgotten Jolinar. :rolleyes: And Selmac, for that matter--wasn't it (for lack of a better term) in a woman before moving to Jacob?

I always think of Selmek as a nice Jewish grandmother type. :)

Daniel's Sister
October 20th, 2004, 08:41 AM
I L-O-V-E this episode! The first time I saw this one, I cried. It's so heartbreaking. But other than the crying, I love this episode. ;)

michelleb
October 20th, 2004, 08:47 AM
This is my favourite season one episode. Katie Stuart is great, so convincing, and managing not to be annoying in the way so many kids in sci-fi are. Very eerie on the planet, and the whole 'kid is a bomb' thing..that was just chilling, to think a gou'ald could do that. And Sam going back down the lift shaft, and the whole team choosing to stay to share her fate....very much a team moment, one that showed how close they'd become. Great episode all round.

Cpn. Chris(tine) Bowman
October 21st, 2004, 05:31 PM
I love this episode, it's my favorite in this season along with Emancipation, Tin man and Solitudes. That scene in the lift just makes me cry every time! I think it's AT's best acting moment (although she is soooo cool as Jolinar!). I can't get enough of that scene.

Katie was awsome all through the episode. I loved how scared and fragile she looked when she clung to AT!

And I loved how they introduced Sam's more feminin/motherly side. Because most of the time they show the Sam the warrioress side. Not that I mind :D Sam's awsome.

zats
October 29th, 2004, 02:26 PM
I always think of Selmek as a nice Jewish grandmother type. :)

Of course, this is a nice Jewish grandmother who brings you tea and cookies before kicking serious goa'uld a** and beating the crap out of a few System Lords! :p

Daniel's_twin
October 29th, 2004, 03:16 PM
I'd love to have that kinda grandma. 'Course, it'd be a little hard to figure out which half I was talking to. :cool:

zats
October 29th, 2004, 05:54 PM
Can you imagine what she'd do if she caught you snitching cookies? You wouldn't know if she was going to give you another one or zat you until it was too late!

Major Fischer
October 29th, 2004, 06:06 PM
All the "nice jewish grandmothers" I've known are tough cookies themselves. ;) So yes, that's exactly the kind of thing I was thinking of.

zats
October 29th, 2004, 06:10 PM
I'll take that to mean that I'd likely the zatted, then. Ouch. I think I'd take Catherine as a grandmother, then!

On the other hand, Selmak'd be great for writing family histories. I can imagine it now: "Well, one part of my grandmother is from Chicago and worked at H&R Block, but the other part is a little over three centuries old and is part of a massive underground resistance movement against the freakish aliens trying to enslave the galaxy..." I think I'd flunk the report if I handed it in for a social studies class!

(Actually, Fischer, I think I may have missed your point entirely...shh)

Elite Anubis Guard
November 3rd, 2004, 11:09 AM
about five of the episodes around this episode were mainly focused on character development among series development and while it isnt all action oriented, its still good, and its an interesting mystery introduction for the nasty goa'uld!

Dani347
November 8th, 2004, 06:43 AM
I think this was Sam's best episode, which is kind of sad (considering how early it was). However, this episode stands out as being the place where I can pinpoint where I fell in love with Daniel. When Sam says she knows she's supposed to be detached, and Daniel says, "Who says so?" Swoon! I know it was the difference of views between the military and civilian part of SG1, but I just love a man that isn't stereotypical macho man.

Lord Zedd
November 8th, 2004, 10:19 AM
I liked the episode but I haven't seen it in a while.I don't have it on DVD I liked to see it again.Perhaps the following weeks I get the first season :D

Lord Zedd
November 13th, 2004, 12:07 PM
yes I finally got the DVD and I have seen it today.Poor Cassie whole the planet died except her.Knowing what will happen later she was doing well.It was a big shock for her.

Lord Zedd
November 13th, 2004, 12:09 PM
I loved the scene wherer Jack and Teal'c are talking about the black hole

Teal'c:I do not quite understand this black hole concept.
O'Neill:It is a hole out there in space where things get sucked in.
Teal'c:I see

Elite Anubis Guard
November 13th, 2004, 12:31 PM
not my most favorite episode but i liked the development it did for sam!

WraithWarrior
November 13th, 2004, 02:47 PM
I collect the DVD magazine and have only just watched this episode, but oh my god it is so good. Its also very sad and sam must have been very scared when the time for Cassandra to explode came. I think Sam would make a great mother and Jack must miss his son as you can tell when he gives Cassandra the dog at the end.

Did Dr Fraiser look hot or wot when she was in the black t-shirt on the planet? Jacks explanation of the black hole was also very err..good and Teal'c must have known exactly wot he was on about lol

ShimmeringStar
January 1st, 2005, 12:45 PM
It was nice to see Jack showing he wasn't ‘dumb’ with his slip of the tongue about astronomy in the first scene. His scene later, describing what a black hole is to Teal’c, was classic Jack and Teal’c. And it was nice to see the little break in Jack’s tough guy façade when he was trying to get a response out of Sam after the time when Cassie's device was supposed to have exploded. Yep Zats, he did call her 'Sam' here & in Solitudes, 4 eps later.

I also liked the two scenes between Daniel and Sam; good writing & acting.

After the way her entrance was written in CotG, it was nice to see Sam’s character developed more with a slightly softer touch.

I agree michelleb, it was nice to see the 'all for one, one for all' comraderie had developed so quickly.

zats
January 2nd, 2005, 12:39 PM
It was nice to see Jack showing he wasn't ‘dumb’ with his slip of the tongue about astronomy in the first scene. His scene later, describing what a black hole is to Teal’c, was classic Jack and Teal’c. And it was nice to see the little break in Jack’s tough guy façade when he was trying to get a response out of Sam after the time when Cassie's device was supposed to have exploded. Yep Zats, he did call her 'Sam' here & in Solitudes, 4 eps later.

I also liked the two scenes between Daniel and Sam; good writing & acting.

After the way her entrance was written in CotG, it was nice to see Sam’s character developed more with a slightly softer touch.

I agree michelleb, it was nice to see the 'all for one, one for all' comraderie had developed so quickly.
The elevator dialogue--between Jack and Sam--was really good, I agree.


Have you noticed that everyone on the team is softer around the edges than they first seem? They all seem so tough, but a little digging enearths real emotion. They're very real that way.

ShimmeringStar
January 2nd, 2005, 01:45 PM
Have you noticed that everyone on the team is softer around the edges than they first seem? They all seem so tough, but a little digging enearths real emotion. They're very real that way.
Yep. Which I'm very glad for. While I could live with a great villain who is a more one-dimensional blankety-blank, it is alot easier for me (and probably other?) if the 'good guy' leads are more 3-dimensional and we learn more about what makes them tick and see them in situations where they're shown as more passionate and compassionate people.

zats
January 2nd, 2005, 03:05 PM
Which then leads to more storyline opportunities, branches coming therefrom, and therefore a better show!

SmartFox
March 4th, 2005, 11:06 AM
The elevator dialogue--between Jack and Sam--was really good, I agree.


Have you noticed that everyone on the team is softer around the edges than they first seem? They all seem so tough, but a little digging enearths real emotion. They're very real that way.


Except for maybe Daniel. He doesn't put on that tough guy routine but its sweet when you see him kick butt like in WTSG and TSL.

I think this ep really gives Sam more charchter then any other eps in this season and think the other eps and other Sam revovled eps dont hold a stone to this one.

hermajesty
March 4th, 2005, 01:28 PM
It was nice to see Jack showing he wasn't ‘dumb’ with his slip of the tongue about astronomy in the first scene. His scene later, describing what a black hole is to Teal’c, was classic Jack and Teal’c. And it was nice to see the little break in Jack’s tough guy façade when he was trying to get a response out of Sam after the time when Cassie's device was supposed to have exploded. Yep Zats, he did call her 'Sam' here & in Solitudes, 4 eps later.

I also liked the two scenes between Daniel and Sam; good writing & acting.

After the way her entrance was written in CotG, it was nice to see Sam’s character developed more with a slightly softer touch.

I agree michelleb, it was nice to see the 'all for one, one for all' comraderie had developed so quickly.

I agree with everything you said here - this was a great episode. I liked the look that Jack gave Daniel when he was surprised that Jack knew about astronomy.

This was a great character episode for sam. The writers really got this one right - when you compare it with emancipation, another main Sam-based season one episode, it's like a billion billion billion times better! There was some great acting from Amanda Tapping. The lift scene was amazing. I also really liked Daniel in this ep (well i always love Daniel!) because he was so sweet and thoughtful. And he put so much emotion into the line "Oh God," when Sam told them Cassie was awake.

I'm watching through season 1 dvds at the moment, and from about the 9th episode (Thor's hammer) they suddenly get much better. Each episode now seems to have emotion and character development. Up until then it had the Buffy season 1 syndrome of "Baddy of the week", but now they are more character focussed which i prefer. Perhaps the writers just got to know the characters better.

PugGate
March 9th, 2005, 06:49 PM
I like the Naquada/Potassium bomb thing and when Jack tries to explain Black holes to Teal'c

zats
March 13th, 2005, 08:46 AM
...I also really liked Daniel in this ep (well i always love Daniel!) because he was so sweet and thoughtful. And he put so much emotion into the line "Oh God," when Sam told them Cassie was awake.
The "Oh, God" completely sold the scene. It's funny how two words can be the difference between a really crappy and a really emotional/believeable scene.

zats
March 13th, 2005, 08:49 AM
Except for maybe Daniel. He doesn't put on that tough guy routine but its sweet when you see him kick butt like in WTSG and TSL.
Daniel's the opposite. He's so completely sincere that you think you see everything--raw emotion, impetuous passion for one cause or another. Then circumstances go straight to chaotic hell and we find how much more is there--the one that kicks butt. :D

GatetheWay
March 24th, 2005, 04:33 PM
Okay, I've wanted to know this for a long time. What was the breed of that dog that Jack gave Cassy at the end? It looked so cute and fluffy :p I think I might want one. :D

_Owen_
March 27th, 2005, 03:30 PM
did anyone else notice that when jack and teal'c are running back to the gate, the earth gate has the decon thing in front of it and then when the stargate activates it isnt there anymore, and then after it is activated it is there again.

Daniel's_twin
March 28th, 2005, 08:17 AM
Yeah. I attribute it to the fact that they just decided to use the same old opening graphic, and figured that it would go so fast no one would notice (were they wrong or what?) :cool:

_Owen_
March 28th, 2005, 10:06 AM
they were wrong, what they should have done is when earth started to dial out have two guys run up to the gate lift it up and run offf of the screen with it, then they could use the opening graphic then when the gate activates, they open the iris O'Neill and Teal'cjump through they close the iris then the two guys run back and put it at the bottom of the ramp.

QuiGonJohn
April 18th, 2005, 01:24 PM
Who put the Welcome Sign on the planet and what all did it say? It seemed to have a lot of information.

NEVER MIND - Answered myown question, put the DVD in the computer and was able to pause it on the sign. Guess SG-7 put it there when they started setting up the telescope.

Psiberian
June 24th, 2005, 01:45 AM
Hi...Just joined up with the boards, so hello! :)

I've been watching my season 1 DVD and it's my first time seeing these episodes in quite a while; I've been watching for certain "firsts" and I'm wondering: Is this the first episode where the Stargate material is referred to as Naquida? Unless I missed something, it's the first time I can recall hearing that name in season 1 (not to mention about it's explosive qualities)...If so, where did the name come from? Did they just randomly come up with a name? Or did it have something to do with the periodic table they found in The Torment of Tantalus? Is this ever explained?

(I always get curious about little details like this - if only for the "Oh cool!" factor)

zats
July 13th, 2005, 03:19 PM
I don't know when the term was first used on the show...I do know that it was a city (state? region?) in ancient Thebes. (I think...it's been a while since that class...)

KorbenDirewolf
July 13th, 2005, 03:44 PM
I think its from a Goa'uld word.. If I remember right this would probably be the first time it was used. I'm not sure exactly... VCR's broke down so I can't even check.

zats
July 13th, 2005, 03:55 PM
I don't think we ever got an explanation. I did a quick transcript check and yes, it was first used in this episode. I believe before it was just referred to as "the material the Stargate's made out of".

Janet: "There a traces of the element the Stargate is made of in her blood."

Sam: "Naquadah?"

I don't think we ever find out where the word's from, nor how we got hold of it.

KorbenDirewolf
July 13th, 2005, 03:58 PM
okay, that sounds close to what I remember. Not sure why I thought it was a Goa'uld word.

zats
July 13th, 2005, 04:15 PM
I seem to remember the goa'uld using the term at some point. I don't know if we picked it up from them offscreen or vice versa.

.:Lemon:.
August 24th, 2005, 07:21 AM
The "Oh, God" completely sold the scene. It's funny how two words can be the difference between a really crappy and a really emotional/believeable scene.

I totally agree :)

I quite enjoyed this ep, even though I think I've only seen it the whole way through once or twice. I usually just catch the end of it

Stricken
September 8th, 2005, 12:59 AM
i have only seen this epsidoe once in my marathos a few monts ago, and it was okay not a great ep but it was well writen from my POV

walter_MacChevron
September 12th, 2005, 08:47 PM
They gotta show Cassie again! Alright eepy IMO

SeaBee
September 24th, 2005, 02:12 AM
I thought the girl who played Cassandra was excellent, and I loved the "Carter goes nuts in a lift" scene, very well done by AT.

Metarock Sam
September 26th, 2005, 01:31 PM
A well written episode which gave Sam room to open up from her military exteria to show how emotional she is.

Svengoolie
December 14th, 2005, 06:53 PM
Dude, the chick in this is hot. I was going crazy the way she was feeling up Carter's inner thigh and then held on to that hot dog all provocatively... then they opened up her shirt! They had tape over her nipples, which was pretty funny.

You're all gonna think I'm sick for saying that... but I'm not the one who made the episode. There's some nasty stuff going on there. Maybe it takes a sick mind to notice it, but there were Disney style subliminal messages.

Samuel J. Tilden
December 14th, 2005, 10:49 PM
You're all gonna think I'm sick for saying that... but I'm not the one who made the episode. There's some nasty stuff going on there. Maybe it takes a sick mind to notice it, but there were Disney style subliminal messages.
Dude, she's 12 years old! I can gladly say that I didn't see any of the alleged innuendo that you noted. Besides, neither Cassandra was particularly hot, although I give version 2.0 a slight edge in attractiveness.

I liked the intensity of this episode. It was a level of emotional connection that Stargate rarely reaches.

captain jake
May 5th, 2006, 06:11 PM
I dont feel they were trying to make it perverted in any way.

Pharaoh Atem
May 23rd, 2006, 07:35 PM
i like this epsiode the intro to the sam janet cassie realionship and and i forshadowing of nirrti

captain jake
May 25th, 2006, 02:32 AM
Wow ok you need to take some more english classes. Just joking

Um yes nirti was mentioned, not that great of a "forshadow" but I dunno.

Why do you say that?

luthienberen
June 2nd, 2006, 12:36 PM
I loved this episode. I actually liked Carter and I'm definitely not a fan of Sam Carter. I loved seeing the emotional side of Carter where she followed her emotions instead of her militaristic-scientific side.

I especially felt that the character interactions between all team members were done surperbly: 'we don't leave our people behind' was lived up to as was the friendship between Janet and Carter and Daniel and Carter. I cried at the scene in the lift where Carter has to leave Cassie and when she turned back I was yay!:samanime24: :sam59:

The beginning with Jack displaying his intelligence to Daniel made me laugh.

TPTB handled Carter's emotional-maternal side excellently in these forty-five mintues and haven't often lived up to such a standard after this ep.

When Singularity ended I thought - yup, Carter could make a good mother if she wanted children one day. 5/5!

captain jake
June 2nd, 2006, 05:18 PM
Realy? I can't see sam as a mother at all.

Chelle DB
June 3rd, 2006, 01:56 AM
One of my favorite eps. Loved the way Sam looked after Cassie - it was nice to see that side of her. It was nice to see Teal'cs reaction to Cassie as well when he had to coax her out of the bushes. I thought it was a nice quick ep - not too long and not too short - just right!! I enjoyed it and that's what counts!!

luthienberen
June 4th, 2006, 01:49 PM
Realy? I can't see sam as a mother at all.

I don't see her as being a good or capable mother any more. In this episode though I thought so (and whenever I watch it), but not any more.:(

PugGate
June 15th, 2006, 09:10 PM
I was just watching the ep again and I noticed somethin. About six minutes in as SG-1 are tagging the dead bodies, the 'dead person' on the right of the screen moves her (I think it's a her) head. rflol! :)

captain jake
June 18th, 2006, 08:44 PM
Wow, I am going to have to check that out.

Sheppard
July 19th, 2006, 08:24 PM
that is true

L.A. Doyle
February 7th, 2007, 08:49 PM
One of my favorite eps. Loved the way Sam looked after Cassie - it was nice to see that side of her. It was nice to see Teal'cs reaction to Cassie as well when he had to coax her out of the bushes. I thought it was a nice quick ep - not too long and not too short - just right!! I enjoyed it and that's what counts!!

Yep, chelle. It's a nice ep. Sam's softer side comes out. I just wish we could see more Cassie!

Harlan's Speechwriter
March 18th, 2007, 02:49 AM
While it was nice to see a 'softer' side of Sam, I would have liked to have seen Teal'c's relationship with Cassie develop more; he was so good when he coaxed her out at the beginning.

angelfire east
April 10th, 2007, 07:43 PM
I love this episode! Very well acted by everyone. THe actresss who played Callie was brilliant, the best kind of child actor. AT was amazing, she hit all the right emotional notes:) Daniel was such a sweet heart in this episode, I loved it. I also really liked Jack at the start of the eprisode when he showed his brains.:)


I don't see her as being a good or capable mother any more. In this episode though I thought so (and whenever I watch it), but not any more.:(

Why not anymore?

Vhladynineer
May 4th, 2008, 07:11 AM
My favorite Sam ep after Jolinar's Memories/The Devil you Know. This was the character I very much missed in the later seasons. She has maternal, assertive, yet with a vulnerability that wasn't soapy and wishy washy. There are great and sorely missed interaction here from Jack-Teal'c and Daniel-Sam.

My favorite scene was at the infirmary with Sam and Daniel.


CARTER: I know I am supposed to be detached...

JACKSON: Who said that?

CARTER: Sometimes I forget you're not military.

This definetely exemplifies the best character written ep of Sam for me. Jolinar's Memories/The Devil You Know had the characterization pretty much shared with other team-mates. This one was written by RCC who also wrote some of my favorite mythology and character eps like TOT, TBFTGOG, In The Line of Duty, Need, Fifth Race, Fair Game, Deadman Switch, The Devil You Know, Maternal Instinct, Absolute Power and Meridian. :) Although I can't deny that he was responsible for clunkers as well but he did prove here that he can write something that has "heart" which I prefers over the Trek-like stories of late. :)

I mean compare Singularity to a Sam ep from the latter seasons such as Prodigy, Space Race, Avenger 2.0, Chimera (which ironically was written by RCC ;) ), Gemini, Grace, Death Knell, Desperate Measures, 2001, 2010 etc. ?

Yikes. They had more plot, but definitely less heart than this ep. ;)

HelloVelo
May 31st, 2008, 12:44 PM
Is Sam the most huggable person ever?

Rating: 6/10

Full Review:http://stargatesummer.blogspot.com/2008/05/singularity.html

captain jake
June 25th, 2008, 03:23 PM
I didn't care for the emotional side of this episode, however all the rest of it was very interesting. We get a glimpse of a Goa'uld Mothership and the first off world research outpost. I believe this to be a turning point for the SGC they are flexing their ability to take on larger and more important missions that require more than just a four person team. It also shows a more advanced medical sittuation in which science-fiction bonds with our modern medical abilities. The off world black hole observatory is also extremely cool. There is a lot more to this episode than Cassandra this is a key episode leading up to the SGC's fight with not only Apophis, but the Goa'uld system lords.

L E E
June 27th, 2008, 09:47 PM
i always knew that jack is just pretending to be dumb.

the bomb in the girl is a fascinating technology. evil goaulds are sooo sneaky.

sam gets too attached too quickly. i don't expect her to be a robot or unemotional. it's just that its too fast. not even a day. although, it would be very hard for me to do what she did, leading the girl in that chamber and leaving her there to die. i'm kinda glad she did not leave her alone in the end.

jack explainin black holes to teal'c is funny.

captain jake
June 27th, 2008, 11:16 PM
i always knew that jack is just pretending to be dumb.

the bomb in the girl is a fascinating technology. evil goaulds are sooo sneaky.

sam gets too attached too quickly. i don't expect her to be a robot or unemotional. it's just that its too fast. not even a day. although, it would be very hard for me to do what she did, leading the girl in that chamber and leaving her there to die. i'm kinda glad she did not leave her alone in the end.

jack explainin black holes to teal'c is funny.

Just wait, there are many of us that think he is actualy an ascended ancient simply messing around with lesser mortals.

I couldn't agree with you more I hate the relationship between her and Cassandra. I completely understand that the young girl would get attached to the savior figure. However for Sam to reciprocate seemed really out of character.

That was a great Jack/Teal'c moment.


TEAL'C: I still do not understand this black hole.

O'NEILL: Well a black hole is this really...big thing. It um...well basically it's uh...massive...hole, out there.

TEAL'C: I see.

O'NEILL: What happens is, everything gets sucked into it, even light, that's why we can't see it. Just gets...sucked in.

TEAL'C: Thank you.

Ulkesh47
July 16th, 2008, 07:05 PM
You know how Teal'c called Nirrti "he"?

Is it possible that Teal'c did this because the last he had heard of Nirrti, he/she was in a male host? And that some time between that time and "Fair Game", Nirrti went into a new, female host? I don't recall Teal'c showing any surprise about Nirrti's appearance in "Fair Game"... So could this be the case?

Gater_Gurl
July 18th, 2008, 09:09 PM
You know how Teal'c called Nirrti "he"?

Is it possible that Teal'c did this because the last he had heard of Nirrti, he/she was in a male host? And that some time between that time and "Fair Game", Nirrti went into a new, female host? I don't recall Teal'c showing any surprise about Nirrti's appearance in "Fair Game"... So could this be the case?

According to Hindu mythology, the god Nirrta is the male form of the goddess Nirrti so if Nirrti were in a male host, she would probably use the name Nirrta.

It was probably just a typo or a misspoken line.

pritnep
July 27th, 2008, 03:36 AM
I didn't care for the emotional side of this episode, however all the rest of it was very interesting. We get a glimpse of a Goa'uld Mothership and the first off world research outpost. I believe this to be a turning point for the SGC they are flexing their ability to take on larger and more important missions that require more than just a four person team. It also shows a more advanced medical sittuation in which science-fiction bonds with our modern medical abilities. The off world black hole observatory is also extremely cool. There is a lot more to this episode than Cassandra this is a key episode leading up to the SGC's fight with not only Apophis, but the Goa'uld system lords.

Agreed completely. This for me was another of the episodes I original thought was boring but actually looking at it now while not my favourite episode it did have it's moments.

Seeing that "softer" side of Carter was nice, the only other time we heard her speak about children was the kids she is an auntie to "I miss them like hell" I think she said a couple of episodes back. Janet and Carter certainly have a friendship you can see it come out and especially with all the scenes they have together.

First look at the Mothership bit of a tease, a glimpse through a monitor but still nice. The Goa'uld/Nirrti aspect was also interesting and kind of shows the lengths Goa'ulds will go to.

Hehe I like how Jack new about the black hole and about his telescope not being used to spy on the neighbours...initially - class Jack. :D

Pic
August 12th, 2008, 06:11 AM
Like several others have mentioned, this was a Sam-centric episode about her getting all emotionally attached with Cassie.

Now that sounds like I didn't like this episode, but I did. I liked the Jack/Teal'c interaction, I liked the whole "how evil are they? using kids as bombs!" theme, the Janet/Sam and the Sam/Daniel stuff.

I thought Sam got attached to Cassie a bit quickly. I don't see Sam as the mother type, perhaps this is where/when she makes that final personality shift to realizing she's not going to be a mother? I say personality shift versus decision because I don't think it's a conscious thing, more like a turning point in life where you accept the path you're heading down or you don't. Sam's remark to Teal'c in the park seemed to conclude this as well.

Also, having that attachment shift so quickly to Janet seems a bit bizarre, but at least Cassie was kept in the SG family.

General Yogi Bear
November 1st, 2008, 12:00 AM
Exactly 11 years ago on Halloween Friday Oct. 31 1997 this show first aired. Today is Halloween, Friday Oct. 31 2008 and the Stargate Franchise is still going strong. At the time I thought that this was a pretty powerful episode (using a child as a bomb) and Carter breaking orders to be with that child (comforting her) even though it would cost Carter her life. (And also that scene with Carter in the elevator struggling with her decision to leave Cassandra was very moving.) And at the time what made the episode neat was that we got a glimpse of a guald mothership. This was the first time we saw a fully formed mothership. In the original movie we had only seen the pyramid part of the ship. It was a good Halloween episode because it was dark and was a good episode in general because it had a happy ending. (Cassandra living and getting a dog, etc.)

RononXSpecialist
November 8th, 2008, 02:37 AM
Good ep to bad we didn't get to see the black hole =\ And is it just me or do Jaffa have bad aim with death gliders ? lol.

Butlersgate
February 23rd, 2009, 06:12 AM
Good ep to bad we didn't get to see the black hole =\ And is it just me or do Jaffa have bad aim with death gliders ? lol.

we do see the black hole, right at the start and also in the distance of the malp on the comp screen. i think this is an important episode where blackholes were seen as an important part of stargate

Anda
March 22nd, 2009, 07:34 AM
"Every kid has got to have a dog. This is a dog, and he's yours."I liked that.
It was fun..

The Stig
April 20th, 2009, 02:44 PM
the whole Cassie being a bomb and sam not leaving her was a really ice touch to the episode. It shows how caring sam really is. And how cruel nirti can be.

Cheerful Dragon
May 26th, 2009, 06:56 AM
I thought Sam got attached to Cassie a bit quickly. I don't see Sam as the mother type, perhaps this is where/when she makes that final personality shift to realizing she's not going to be a mother? I say personality shift versus decision because I don't think it's a conscious thing, more like a turning point in life where you accept the path you're heading down or you don't. Sam's remark to Teal'c in the park seemed to conclude this as well.

Also, having that attachment shift so quickly to Janet seems a bit bizarre, but at least Cassie was kept in the SG family.

Cassie got attached to Sam first. Sam got attached when Cassie wouldn't let Sam leave her alone. I don't think Cassie made a rapid attachment shift to Janet. When we see her in the park with Sam, she's still attached to Sam but she knows she can't stay with Sam because of the amount of time Sam spends off-world. I also don't think Sam will have realized she'll never be a mother at this stage. Amanda Tapping was only 32 when this was made. Assuming Sam's the same age, that's a little early to realize you'll never be a mother.

I enjoyed this episode. The moment in the elevator when Cassie woke up, followed by Sam's inner conflict over leaving her, and Sam's decision to go back to her were incredibly moving. I admit that I cried.

Wonder what happened to the dog. We never see him again.:P

lordofseas
July 31st, 2009, 03:57 PM
Cassie got attached to Sam first. Sam got attached when Cassie wouldn't let Sam leave her alone. I don't think Cassie made a rapid attachment shift to Janet. When we see her in the park with Sam, she's still attached to Sam but she knows she can't stay with Sam because of the amount of time Sam spends off-world. I also don't think Sam will have realized she'll never be a mother at this stage. Amanda Tapping was only 32 when this was made. Assuming Sam's the same age, that's a little early to realize you'll never be a mother.

I enjoyed this episode. The moment in the elevator when Cassie woke up, followed by Sam's inner conflict over leaving her, and Sam's decision to go back to her were incredibly moving. I admit that I cried.

Wonder what happened to the dog. We never see him again.:P

And it was a cute dog, too. :[

Tachyon
November 29th, 2009, 06:33 AM
This is an alright episode for me.

Kehaan
December 8th, 2009, 08:28 AM
Hey.

I also made a new thread about the questians. But was becouse i first not could reply here. But seems like i can now :)

It was a great episode, but i have 2 questians for it.

1: Why is it called Singularity? Was it becouse that Sam cant explain the attractment for the girl? Or something else? Everything that gets in the singularity gets destroyed, but cant really find a solution to why the episode have that name.

2: Where is the black hole? I know we cant see it, but what is the reason that they have to look in the telescope then? Atleast as the explain they can see some "dust" that get "sucked" in. But we never see that?

Becouse i am asking the questians, is becouse i need to analyse the episode for a school project, and those is the only two questians i have about the episode, which seems like i cant find the answer to other places :)

Thanks, and sorry for my english. Im from Denmark :)

From Kehaan.

sunrek
December 8th, 2009, 12:41 PM
His new thread is Here (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=72077). Don't know if mods should merge them or not

gateship15
December 8th, 2009, 12:44 PM
good ep i like how sneaky the gou'ld are using humans as weapons. i also like sam befriending the girl

mrscopterdoc
February 5th, 2010, 09:00 PM
At the time I thought that this was a pretty powerful episode (using a child as a bomb) and Carter breaking orders to be with that child (comforting her) even though it would cost Carter her life. (And also that scene with Carter in the elevator struggling with her decision to leave Cassandra was very moving.)

I agree. I also loved the part where Jack tried to explain black holes to Teal'c. Classic. :P

hawk97135
February 20th, 2010, 04:02 AM
A good character development episode for Sam, with some nice humor thrown in throughout the episode.

However I do remember the 1st time I saw this episode, I thought that Cassandra should have bonded with Teal'c instead of Sam, seeing that the 1st time Cassandra saw Sam she was wearing the hazmat suit whereas Teal'c wasn't.
But nevertheless quite a good episode.

maneth
March 17th, 2010, 06:00 AM
Great Sam ep. Teal'c looks so intimidating even when he smiles that it didn't surprise me Cassandra bonded with Sam instead...

FreshFero
March 22nd, 2010, 07:50 AM
I suppose I'm the only one (haven't read all the post) who sees a similarity between the scenes of when Ripley and Newt first interact and when Sam and Cassie go through their silent period. Also I need to mention I generally don't like the episodes with kids (I might like one other one I guess with the kid that the bug alien creates) but I really like this one with Cassandra.

Vagabond Serpent
July 4th, 2010, 08:20 AM
I loved "Singularity" - it's a very strong episode. Builds up Sam's character greatly, when she feels herself so bonded to Cassie suddenly that she even refuses to obey her orders and stays with the girl. Sam's no longer a military-to-the-bone and I'm-as-good-as-men-are as before. And the episode shows that SG-1 is already the one whole when Daniel and Teal'C refuse to leave at that moment. Also it's obvious after this episode that Goa'Uld treat all others like crap, not giving a damn about their slaves or their servants, trying to achieve their goals whatever means possible. They wiped out the whole planet to create a trap, and used an innocent girl as a set up, knowing that Earthlings will take care of her and will take her home with them.

But there're some funny moments too. I loved the very beginning when Daniel was startled when Jack said about the accretion disk and the following dialogue about telescope. :D When Jack was trying to explain to Teal'C what's a black hole, it was funny to watch too. Teal'C's friendly face... Well, that was gem. :P

But there's one thing that bothers me - how Teal'C was able to identify the Ha'Tak as Nirrti's ship? IIRC they all look similar without any distinguishing marks of their owners? :confused:

8/10.

Tallifer
September 10th, 2010, 02:05 PM
I liked this episode quite much, probably because I am an English teacher of many young children, so it was easy for me to empathize with Sam and Cassie despite not having any offspring of my own.

The plot concerning the implanted bomb and the virus was also quite good and suitably horrific as touching the ruthlessness of the Goauld.

ChulaksPrincess
October 21st, 2010, 01:19 PM
In this episode, we truly see the heartlessness of the Go'uld in the way they used Cassie. I am so glad she survived, and got to have a life.

ChulaksPrincess
March 5th, 2011, 03:29 PM
Never ask Jack a scientific question like explaining a black hole. I felt bad for Teal'c. He went to the wrong person for that explination.

:lol:

WraithCommander
June 10th, 2011, 04:13 AM
I just watched it again today and did anyone else think "Wow the Jaffa are pretty lousy shots" When trying to fire at Teal'c and O'Neill?

garhkal
June 11th, 2011, 11:57 AM
Cause they are firing from a staff weapon held under the arms while on the run.. Also they went to the "A-Team school for baddies shooting"

maylet
July 12th, 2011, 01:59 PM
This is my favorite episode of season 1, I love this episode,I've seen so many times already I lost count.
I love the bond that Sam and Cassie have since the first moment they meet. I cried so much (again) when Sam is taking Cassie to die alone in that building, and even more when she came back, because she couldn't leave her alone. Even today, it would have been really fun for Sam to adopt Cassie, but it's okay that Janet did it.

mathpiglet
July 13th, 2011, 10:13 AM
I was kind of surprised Sam could leave Cassandra there at all! Of course she went back! It would have been heartless to do anything else.

garhkal
July 16th, 2011, 11:46 AM
How would it be heartless to leave someone who is effectively a walking bomb? At the time we had no way to neutralize it.

Vagabond Serpent
July 17th, 2011, 10:22 PM
Exactly.

mathpiglet
July 18th, 2011, 11:44 AM
Despite the fact Cassandra is a bomb, she is primarily a child. If you have a heart, I could not leave a child to suffer her fate alone.

garhkal
July 18th, 2011, 03:10 PM
If there is no way to save her.. yes.

Vagabond Serpent
July 18th, 2011, 06:44 PM
That's a war. Imagine Hitler Jugend shooting at you. Will you not let them suffer their fate alone?

the fifth man
July 18th, 2011, 07:41 PM
If there is no way to save her.. yes.

I agree. To some extent, self-preservation plays a role.

mathpiglet
July 19th, 2011, 09:02 AM
That's a war. Imagine Hitler Jugend shooting at you. Will you not let them suffer their fate alone?

Being shot at is a different situation. In that case, I believe I would act without thinking and yes, try to save myself.


If there is no way to save her.. yes.



I agree. To some extent, self-preservation plays a role.

I will need to respectfully disagree. An adult could tell me to leave, they understand their fate and I could leave them alone. I know that I could not leave a child for any amount of time to suffer alone.

garhkal
July 20th, 2011, 03:32 PM
Even if meant your death as well?

muziqaz
August 14th, 2011, 02:32 AM
Janet with long hair - nice :)
I think this is the last episode where Sam talks with that weird sounding voice.
But anyway, Teal'c trying to look friendly - priceless :D

It seems mother's instinct woke up in Carter.
have you noticed change of jack's tone of voice:
Captain Carter, can you hear me?
Sam, can you here me?

And liked Daniel trying to help Carter.
Very nice episode getting us to know more about SG1 members

Starscape91
August 14th, 2011, 10:28 AM
I really enjoyed this episode we got to see a whole other side to Carter and the lengths the Goa'uld would go to in order to destroy Earth.

jckfan55
August 14th, 2011, 01:17 PM
Though it was a Carter featured episode it was also very teamy, which I love. e.g Jack, DAniel & teal'c didn't leave when Carter didn't.

dtheories
August 14th, 2011, 09:37 PM
The team cohesion was excellent. Learning about other SG teams; how they lived off-world; the fact that teams could be stationed for extended periods, that stuff always interests me.
"With darkness would come the apocalypse." Such a sad line. But the concept of an internal organism being planted that could be triggered by life saving devices and medicines to cause supersized destruction...I mean, these writers are incredibly imaginative!
I think Sam's emotional responses were excellently played to distract the viewer from what was happening. Sam was the one who acknowledged that Cassie became ill when approaching the 'gate, and then Cassie very clearly shared she was no longer tired in the elevator going down and even walked without hesitation. All big, honkin' clues, but we were so worried about Sam that little Cassie almost got missed.
Seeing Janet and her crash team in action was rather exciting as well.
Good ep for Jack, Teal'c and Daniel to primarily provide only comic relief.

Lieutenant Sparrow
August 15th, 2011, 03:21 AM
An okay ep I suppose.

My favourite part was seeing the Ha'tak haha.

KayLyne
August 15th, 2011, 10:01 AM
despite this being a fairly Sam-centric episode, it did have a few other great moments - like Teal'c trying to look "friendly" when he was trying to get Cassie to come out from hiding. I also loved seeing Janet going off world. And of course the great 'team' moments towards the end - first when Jack, Daniel & Teal'c wouldn't leave after Sam decided to stay underground with Cassie, and then the ending with Cassie in the park .

Now to the main theme of the episode:
Sam going from "Holy Hannah, it's a child; I'm not good with children, let somebody else take her" to "I'm going to stay with this child until the end, even if it may cost me my life."

Probably the greatest scene to show Sam's conflict in this episode is where Daniel comes into Cassie's room, Sam & Daniel watch her sleep, and we hear Sam voice her conflict of being in the military and how she's not supposed to be emotional about this whole situation.

and can't forget about the 'eating the hot dog' scene. That would probably be me eating just the plain wiener as well.

I loved the ending at the park, however, I wished they would have had Janet there as well, instead of just mentioning that Janet was going to be taking care of Cassie. It would have been great to see Janet, Sam & Cassie walking off together to go to the swings. Then we could have also seen Janet's reaction to Jack getting Cassie a dog without her permission.

garhkal
August 15th, 2011, 02:14 PM
Some of my friends felt that 'sams conflict of whether to stay in or get out and mother cassie' was proof of why women should not be in.. Though i felt it a little too misogynistic, it did have a little merit.

lookupwardsnshare
August 16th, 2011, 03:33 PM
One of my favorite episodes! Luv it!! Great writing, acting and directing. Katie Stuart does a great job as Cassandra...the kid can act. AT as Sam is great. Liked the idea of wanting to observe the blackhole and the setup of the telescope on the planet. Gou'ald will do anything...evil and clever...never seem to surprise at what lengths they will go to.

I dont believe that Sam's attachment to Cassie was over the top n is not why women should not be in the military (if that was what garhkal was hinting at). Cassie opened up to Sam and felt safe with her. It would have been cold of Sam to just shrug her off just b/c of her military status. Not all men could have done that military or not. Sam's brain was going and she had a theory of what was happening to Cass and decided to be there for her.

Funny moments:
in beginning at gate...Sam: "you dont think Col has telescope just for looking at the neighbors" Jack: "not at first"

at end in the park... Jack: "Teal'c, know anything about dogs? Teal'c: "nothing"--just the way he says it and his expression.

poundpuppy29
August 17th, 2011, 11:46 AM
This was a great Sam ep really saw Sam the person

Jae'a
August 18th, 2011, 09:31 AM
My LiveJournal post (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/4888.html)

I'm not much of a kid person and I can never decide how much I like this episode. But I do like it. Especially the cute dog at the end, which, if anyone is interested, is a Shiba inu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiba_inu) :D

another scientist
August 18th, 2011, 11:33 AM
A really sweet episode. I love how Teal'c is trying to convince Cassie to come out of hiding.
Good thing that Cassandra isn't one of those aliens who stay on earth but are never heard of again.

hlndncr
August 18th, 2011, 07:33 PM
I like this episode. Up until this point we've seen Sam trying to act like she's as tough as any guy. Here she at first seems scared and reluctant to care for and care about Cassie. But then she really does show the soft, caring woman she is beneath the military bravado she's had to cultivate.

AT does such a great job conveying the pain of leaving this little girl she's come to love behind to die and then realizing she just can't do it. For me, far more than any tough talk or fight to the death, that demonstrates just how strong she really is.




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Nindif
August 19th, 2011, 03:16 AM
Funny moments:
at end in the park... Jack: "Teal'c, know anything about dogs? Teal'c: "nothing"--just the way he says it and his expression.

I loved this moment also. teal'c has some good moments in this episode, including him trying to get cassie out of the grass. Good stuff.

I like this episode. I think they do spend a little too long focussing on Sam and Cassie, but i understand why.

The chase on the planet with jack and Teal'c is very well done and it is great to see our first Goauld ship since the film/CotG.

The medical elements were well done and Janet is developing into a consistent character now. I enjoyed the medical drama/ ticking bomb/ astrological/ interplanetary structure of this episode. Definitely one of the best from season 1.

Off-Topic: Anyone know what breed of dog that is at the end?

muziqaz
August 19th, 2011, 03:21 AM
Off-Topic: Anyone know what breed of dog that is at the end?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiba_inu

Credit for this link is not mine. Someone in other thread posted it. Sorry that 'someone' I have some major problems with my memory, I hope you don't mind.

chaddergate
August 19th, 2011, 07:07 AM
A pretty good episode, I really liked seeing the ha'tak. And the moment near the end in the elevator with Sam & Cassandra was emotional.

Jae'a
August 19th, 2011, 09:26 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiba_inu

Credit for this link is not mine. Someone in other thread posted it. Sorry that 'someone' I have some major problems with my memory, I hope you don't mind.
:lol: Hi!
I wouldn't mind, but it was only 3 posts above Nindif's! :P
Just kidding, don't worry about it. ;)

muziqaz
August 19th, 2011, 12:35 PM
:lol: Hi!
I wouldn't mind, but it was only 3 posts above Nindif's! :P
Just kidding, don't worry about it. ;)

That is why I couldn't find it :D i remember it being posted somewhere, and looked in quite a few threads but did not check this one :D

mathpiglet
August 19th, 2011, 03:40 PM
Jack offers to take Cassandra down but Sam refuses.

I wonder how the scene would have played out if it had been Jack with Cassandra instead of Sam.

Krisz
August 19th, 2011, 07:04 PM
Whilst this was a good discover more about Sam episode I always remember it for showing what lengths the Goa'uld go to destroy those that defy them. The use of a child as a bomb, one of the more despicable things in their catalogue of despicable things! It hits emotionally on so many levels.

I'm not really a dog lover, but that dog was a nice looking dog! :)

Badhron
August 20th, 2011, 11:53 AM
I liked the scene where Jack is explaining black holes to Teal'c.
Also, the decontamination structure built around the gate suddenly disappears when the gate activates when Teal'c and Jack are coming back to earth.

Skydiver
August 20th, 2011, 12:23 PM
That dog's name was......oh escapes me, but it was a make a wish dog. The owner, Tara, was sick, and her wish was to have her dog on TV. So he was.

Stargate did a lot with Make a Wish back then. Lots of kids visited the set, and many of the proceeds of the early gatecons went to Make a Wish. JR Bourne's niece (he played martouf) has cystic fibrosis, so sick kids was near and dear to the hearts of the cast and crew.

fems
August 20th, 2011, 12:28 PM
Boomer.

Skydiver
August 20th, 2011, 12:39 PM
ah boomer. that's it, thanks

He came to many of hte early gatecons, as did tara.

Matt G
August 20th, 2011, 02:00 PM
Another Sunday afternoon, another ep of SG1 and another ep I haven't seen for a while.

1. Nice to be reminded of Jack's astronomical knowledge, could also have done a better job in explaining the black hole.

2. Cassandra's clinginess was a bit freaky to start with and it was a bit wierd to see Sam go seemingly gooey, I mean it was the sort of thing you'd more likely see from Daniel. Still, looking back it was sort of sweet.

3. Bomb, in kid. Holy cack!

4. That was one hell of a gamble Sam took, initially I'd assumed that she just didn't want the kid to die alone and that the team would have to go down and get her before Cassie went boom.

jlovette
August 20th, 2011, 06:12 PM
My wife put it best when she saw this episode for the first time a few years ago -

"The Goa'uld suck!"

LeftHandedGuitarist
August 20th, 2011, 11:50 PM
A good episode, fairly strong performances all round and each of the main characters does get some good material to work with (well, I guess Daniel is a little left out). AT does very well especially towards the end of the episode, and Chris Judge again appears a little more comfortable in his role. A few of his lines feel closer to the Teal'c we'd all know later (notably, "...nothing.")

The girl who played Cassandra was very good, and I'm glad when we see her later they used the same actress (mostly, her last appearance was someone else). Her character seemed strangely Americanised compared to most aliens we encounter. 'Cassandra' is obviously an Earth name and she used the word "mom". Some of the moments with her and Sam are a little cringeworthy, but sweet at the same time.

It's nice the way Janet adopts her, but we are not really shown any kind of bond developing between them so that comes a bit out of the blue.

The amount of apperances Doc Frasier has now appeared in should put Teryl Rothery in the main credits! It feels like she's been in a consistant run of quite a few now. Odd to suddenly see Dr. Warner again, I figured that after his first appearance they maybe couldn't get the actor back and so recast with Teryl, but here he is again. His appearance in 'The Enemy Within' gave the impression he was in charge of the medical staff there, but I'm fairly sure Janet is. A little confusing. They also introduced Dr. Mackenzie in 'Fire and Water', so we're getting a mix building up. I guess it's more realistic.

It was good to have a reference back to Jack's astronomy knowledge, and I really like Daniel's "oh God" reaction when Sam said that Cassie had woken up, plus the way Daniel gave Teal'c a little punch in triumph after everything was okay! There's a moment wheere I expect Teal'c to belt Daniel one across the chin!

- First mention of "naquahdah" which until now had always been called 'the Stargate material'. I wonder who came up with that name and why?

- Nirrti mentioned, and Teal'c refers to her as "he". Obviously it's because the writers just hadn't established the character yet, but could easily be explained as the previous host being a male.

- Great action sequence as Jack and Teal'c run for the gate, nice to see the gliders and mothership, and they looked pretty good for the time and budget.

- Whatever Jack uses to wash his hands after touching the dead body looks nasty!

Rating: 6.5 out of 10

Matt G
August 21st, 2011, 02:27 AM
I suspect Janet adopted her because well...someone with the right security clearance had to and as Cassandra said in the ep, it couldn't be Sam because she'd be offworld too much to really raise her.

fems
August 21st, 2011, 03:00 AM
Odd to suddenly see Dr. Warner again, I figured that after his first appearance they maybe couldn't get the actor back and so recast with Teryl, but here he is again. His appearance in 'The Enemy Within' gave the impression he was in charge of the medical staff there, but I'm fairly sure Janet is. A little confusing. They also introduced Dr. Mackenzie in 'Fire and Water', so we're getting a mix building up. I guess it's more realistic.


Actually, it makes a lot of sense. Janet Fraiser was probably assigned to the base because of her area of expertise (exotic diseases) once the program was finalized, which is around the time of The Enemy Within. Doctor Warner, however, is a surgeon who would be in charge of the OR when he's performing surgery. Doctor MacKenzie is a psychiatrist, who was actually introduced in The Children of the Gods as he was the one performing the autopsy (which he can do because of his basic training before specializing in psychiatry). It's possible MacKenzie and/or Warner was already assigned to the base before the program got started as I assume every base would need medical personnel...

SF_and_Coffee
August 21st, 2011, 01:55 PM
My impression is that the hierarchy of the medical staff at the SGC is Fraiser as Chief Medical Officer, with Warner and MacKenzie both on staff, and practicing their specialties. After all, you can't really run the entire infirmary and medical department of a base that size and that complicated (especially given what they'll run into, and the need for strict secrecy) with just one or two MDs. Not to mention that Janet still also had that portion of her practice that was connected with the Academy hospital (remember her office from "In The Line of Duty"?) and for all we know, she may rotate to Peterson AFB regularly as well.

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
August 22nd, 2011, 03:51 PM
An average episode. We hinted on a new Goa'uld, who we'll first see in Early Season 3.

There is not much to say about this episode. See you tomorrow, when we'll meet the Tollan.

Solitude
August 23rd, 2011, 12:37 AM
But there're some funny moments too. I loved the very beginning when Daniel was startled when Jack said about the accretion disk and the following dialogue about telescope. :D When Jack was trying to explain to Teal'C what's a black hole, it was funny to watch too. Teal'C's friendly face... Well, that was gem. :P



Absolutely love that scene! Every time I watch this episode I rewind it just to watch it again :lol:

Solitude
August 23rd, 2011, 12:40 AM
I think this is the last episode where Sam talks with that weird sounding voice.


Sorry, newy here so I don't know how to double quote in a post.....

I can't say I really noticed Sam talking with a weird voice?!

ChulaksPrincess
August 23rd, 2011, 11:44 AM
Sam talking in a weird voice? I don't remember that, and I've seen this episode many times. This show is good, but sad. I felt so sorry for the little girl. However, I was glad that she was rescued.

juggernaut975
August 24th, 2011, 04:19 AM
LOVED this episode. Fantastic Sam episode. It's odd that, at the end, they did that whole implying that she knew that the bomb wasn't going to go off....or did she sort of thing which I found annoying because, as we all know, she was completely willing to sacrifice herself rather than leave Cassandra's side.

Out of the adventure, all the heroism we've seen in Season 1 thus far Sam going back down that elevator is by far the most significant act. With Jack on the intercom ordering her, and then pleading with her, to come back up she instead holds Cassandra as the seconds tick down. I had forgotten this but it was this episode that totally sold Sam for me. Sure, she's a super-high speed, low drag Astro Physics super-star like I'm in school for but it was this episode that did it.

Also, we all know that Apophis is SG1's big foe early on and he's done some despicable stuff....but Nirrti showed us just how villainous the Goa'uld could truly be. What she did to Cassandra makes the rest of them seem like pikers really.

hedwig
August 24th, 2011, 08:03 AM
LOVED this episode. Fantastic Sam episode. It's odd that, at the end, they did that whole implying that she knew that the bomb wasn't going to go off....or did she sort of thing which I found annoying because, as we all know, she was completely willing to sacrifice herself rather than leave Cassandra's side.

I think there was a lot involved in Sam going back to Cassie. She realized in the elevator why they could be wrong about the bomb, and she was willing to bet her life on it by going back to stay with Cassie. I don't think she was 100% sure she was right, but she was going with her "gut feeling" about it, and she was right. Plus, she couldn't have lived with herself if she had actually left Cassie alone down there, regardless of what happened, so she went back, and was prepared to deal with the consequences of disobeying an order.

If Jack had been the one to take Cassie down there, I don't think he would have been able to leave her alone there either, in spite of all his training.

Traveler Enroute1
August 24th, 2011, 09:10 AM
SG Rewatch episodes: 101 - 105, 106, 107, 109, 110, 111,112, 113, 114, 115

Singularity

Fair amount of tension in this story, and Sam finds an alien that she can keep. Starts off with a gruesome body found near the Stargate, progresses to find that the SG team that preceded them are all dead and the other inhabitants as well. Then Sam spots movement on the roadside, and they find a survivor, a young girl.

As they prepare to return to the SGC, the girl attaches herself to Sam. She probably felt safer with a female. That left Jack and Teal'c to remain on the planet to complete the scientific mission the SG team couldn't finish, recording a rare black hole.

So the plot splits into the mystery of the girl's survival where everyone around her died, and Jack and Teal'c in an observatory on the planet. At first I thought the black hole mission was superfluous in the face of the tragic deaths, even with Sam's plea to complete it in honor of their fallen comrades. But aha, the plot thickened.

Back at the SGC we learn the girl's name is Cassandra. Yipes, the girl's a time bomb! Yipes, a Goa'uld ship is just about on top of the planet where Jack and Teal'c are!

The two storylines converge in a really cool race from both sides of the gate, neither knowing the other is about to dial out or in. My fingernails survived as by one thin chevron lock, Jack and Teal'c dial in and get Cassandra away from the gate. I liked how these events played, but my nails were still in danger. Cassandra remained a lethal ticking bomb so they needed to let her detonate somewhere on earth. Luckily (ok, too luckily) an abandoned nuclear facility was handy and conveniently located.

Here was the episode's real hook. While Sam is holding the unconscious girl, Cassandra wakes up. Torn but with time passing, Sam leaves and we see an anguished captain wrestling with her deed in the creeping elevator, alone and angry at Cassandra's plight. Suddenly something occurs to Sam and she sends the elevator back down. Jack is visibly shocked, and obviously helpless to get his captain back up in time.

Kudos to Amanda for fielding that elevator scene. Sam's outrage was building all through the efforts to help Cassandra, and the final drop at the facility let it all spill out. In one of the commentaries or an interview, Amanda said the director, a little old man - Mario Azzopardi, was constantly niggling her for 'more, more, more!' I always think of the part where she kicks the wall as Amanda kicking him! But it paid off, Amanda; great scene.

The focus is mostly on Sam here, but there are a couple of sweet scenes with Sam and Daniel. He really scored big for me as he stayed close to support her. And when he's sitting outside Cassandra's room and tells Sam she doesn't have to carry this all alone, I sent him a whopping kiss. I think in this episode Daniel comes to admire her even if he probably doesn't understand her. She's fierce, intelligent, and now she's quite emotional over the welfare of a lone survivor. I expected him to hug her when she was crying, but then I'm sure he figured she wouldn't want that.

Other stuff:




Some nice camera shots here. Liked the child's eye view of the gateroom when Cassandra comes through, kind of intimidating. The scenes of the old facility were shot from below which added to a sense of foreboding. The music added to the tension of the walk down the empty corridors.


Teal'c and Jack - great pair. A natural straight man for Jack's one liners. Whooped when Jack tried to explain what a black hole was. Teal'c seemed very un-enlightened!


In their run for the gate, the explosions seemed awfully close on Jack and Teal'c's heels. Made for nice action viewing but I kept thinking they were close enough to be hurt while filming.


Sam fully intended to carry out her orders in the facility, distasteful as she found them.


When Teal'c talked of Niirti, he said 'he'. Had he ever met her? Or did Niirti have a male host at one time?


Noticed that the kawoosh! has a narrow projection, leaving the sides of the ring untouched. The disinfectant frame doesn't get vaporized when the wormhole formed.


Loved the team's expressions of relief. Jack seemed torn between relief and a 'wait-till-I-see-you-later' annoyance toward Sam.


Jack seemed SO proud of his gift to Cassandra. But not sure why Sam found it so funny. What a gorgeous pup.


Those silent Generals were there again. Window dress-blues. Glad they faded with the series!



Another dastardly Goa'uld name is added - Niirti, who double crossed some other Goa'uld by blowing up his Stargate en route to a sit down. This one played genetic tricks to kill the city's people and engineer a biological bomb delivery system via Cassandra. Each Goa'uld they meet is nastier than the previous one; earth has officially pissed off more than one. Cool. Looked forward to seeing all of them.

An episode that pointed out that Sam's also capable of 'female' feelings. Though she did deny the maternal instinct thing Teal'c suggested, its fair to say she has something like it. From the guys, these actions wouldn't be termed paternal (i.e. Jack and Skaara), so I'll just say she's capable of showing her softer side, too. Nice to see.

Rated 3/5

SF_and_Coffee
August 24th, 2011, 02:11 PM
If Jack had been the one to take Cassie down there, I don't think he would have been able to leave her alone there either, in spite of all his training.
Definitely not, given how strongly we are shown him as having a soft spot for children in the series.

KayLyne
August 24th, 2011, 05:31 PM
Definitely not, given how strongly we are shown him as having a soft spot for children in the series.
I actually think Jack would have left (even though it would have killed him inside). If you notice, Sam only decided to go back down to Cassie after she had realized, while the elevator was going up, what was actually happening - with Cassie waking up and getting better when they were far enough away from the gate. Jack wouldn't have had that insight into the situation. And while both Sam & Jack have taken their military training (protecting the innocent; leave no man behind, etc) to some great lengths at times, both are smart enough not to sacrifice oneself when there are alternatives.

jelgate
August 25th, 2011, 03:44 PM
I think Teal'c has gender confusion. Nitiri isn't a he:P

This episode has two stories. A plot story and a character story. As character story in a lot of ways its really the first Sam story. Yes we have had Sam stories before but this is really the first one that devulges into how she thinks. Using Cassandra as an outlet its the first episode to show Sam's deep morals and emotions.

The plot aspect shows just how far the Goa'uld. Yes we know the Goa'uld are monsters who will go to no end to destroy their enemies. But using a human child as a weapon aims to shows just how sinister they are to achieve thier goals. But I can't grasp why Niriti attacked us. Our war was more with Apophis. Its not like we attacked like we did with Apophis.

SF_and_Coffee
August 25th, 2011, 04:10 PM
I think Teal'c has gender confusion. Nitiri isn't a he:P
The symbiote Nirrti is not a Goa'uld queen and is therefore not female, so the generic pronoun "he" is not incorrect. Nirrti's human host, on the other hand, is definitely female. But host gender =/= symbiote gender. Teal'c isn't confused at all; he's using completely proper terminology.

jelgate
August 25th, 2011, 04:33 PM
The symbiote Nirrti is not a Goa'uld queen and is therefore not female, so the generic pronoun "he" is not incorrect. Nirrti's human host, on the other hand, is definitely female. But host gender =/= symbiote gender. Teal'c isn't confused at all; he's using completely proper terminology. The Jaffa and Teal'c have always used gender for the Goa'uld based on the god they have posed as

Skydiver
August 25th, 2011, 05:19 PM
the more practical explanation also is....Nirti USED to be in a male, but switched to a female sometime since the last time Teal'c knew of him/her.

perhaps there was more than one goa'uld pretending to be nirti? Old male Nirti was killed by new, female Nirti who took his identity? (the old 'dread pirate roberts schtick'...it's the name that's scary, the person holding it changes)

juggernaut975
August 25th, 2011, 06:48 PM
I'm wondering how much interaction Teal'c would have had with the other System Lords? As someone who required his 'divinity' to hold sway over his subjects, would Apophis ever acknowledge that he was merely one of several System Lords who, with Ra's demise, were at odds with each other?

With Teal'c it's a bit different I'm sure as he was First Prime and all and had already determined Apophis and the other Goa'uld to be false gods but I'm certain it wasn't an easy decision for him, it was one of the hardest things he's ever had to do.

He, like all Jaffa, had been raised since birth believing that the Goa'uld they served were their Gods. I wonder how much if any information was made available to them about the other System Lords. The higher ranking Jaffa, sure, they'd be important enough to be exposed to other 'gods' but the lower ranks?

To me at least I'd wonder how they would be able to reconcile with their subjects the fact that there are OTHER supreme beings that they're in conflict with :)

fems
August 26th, 2011, 02:53 AM
I'm wondering how much interaction Teal'c would have had with the other System Lords? As someone who required his 'divinity' to hold sway over his subjects, would Apophis ever acknowledge that he was merely one of several System Lords who, with Ra's demise, were at odds with each other?

With Teal'c it's a bit different I'm sure as he was First Prime and all and had already determined Apophis and the other Goa'uld to be false gods but I'm certain it wasn't an easy decision for him, it was one of the hardest things he's ever had to do.

He, like all Jaffa, had been raised since birth believing that the Goa'uld they served were their Gods. I wonder how much if any information was made available to them about the other System Lords. The higher ranking Jaffa, sure, they'd be important enough to be exposed to other 'gods' but the lower ranks?

To me at least I'd wonder how they would be able to reconcile with their subjects the fact that there are OTHER supreme beings that they're in conflict with :)

Well, considering Teal'c's father used to be in the service of Cronus (and was killed by him) which led his mother and himself to leave Cronus' domain and apparently end up with Apophis, I'd say Jaffa in general are well aware of different Goa'uld. After all, the Goa'uld hardly do anything but fight and the Jaffa are their foot soldiers. And it seems like most Jaffa are aware of which tattoo belongs to which Goa'uld etc, which would also indicate they are well aware of the different "gods".

StarSancFar
August 26th, 2011, 06:28 AM
I loved this ep! The way we got to see more of Sam's personallity and the way she reacts with Cassie, just beautiful. One of my faviies from S1 :D

SF_and_Coffee
August 26th, 2011, 12:45 PM
He, like all Jaffa, had been raised since birth believing that the Goa'uld they served were their Gods. I wonder how much if any information was made available to them about the other System Lords. The higher ranking Jaffa, sure, they'd be important enough to be exposed to other 'gods' but the lower ranks?

To me at least I'd wonder how they would be able to reconcile with their subjects the fact that there are OTHER supreme beings that they're in conflict with :)
In polytheistic systems, the idea of multiple coexisting gods is accepted as a given. Deities in such systems are not regarded as "supreme" in the sense that a deity in a monotheistic system would be. The closest you'd find would be the chief deity of a particular pantheon, who would rule over the other deities in that pantheon. The Goa'uld are their own pantheon (they simply utilize personae and identities from several different groups of Earth deities), with their own internecine squabbles from time to time over who is, in fact, the ruler of the others. (This is, in fact, also a common occurrence in Earth mythology between various deities within each pantheon. Check out Greek and Hindu mythology, or even Norse.) So having the Jaffa exposed to multiple Goa'uld "deities" would not pose a problem, as there is no expectation or need for a Goa'uld System Lord to have his or her Jaffa believe that he (or she) is the ONLY deity in existence.

moondragon
October 14th, 2011, 10:06 PM
This was another favorite episode of season 1. Teal'c definitely learned to smile since the last time he did it (The First Commandment) and it seemed to have helped ease Cassandra. I also liked the banter of SG-1 before getting back to the planet. "You didnt think he had a telescope on his roof just to look at his neighbors?" and Jack looking insulted before going "not at first" LOLz My favorite part of this episode was the relationship between Sam and Cassandra. You can see her not wanting to get attached because of her military background, but eventually having no choice in the matter. Her attachment to Cassie showed us that Sam is more than the tough soldier, she can be a mother figure to a lost little girl. Her guilt and anger when leaving Cassie at first was definitely heartfelt and kudos to AT for such a powerful scene. And as a shipper it was great to see Jack worried for Sam when she wouldn't answer the comm.

Dimes
December 23rd, 2011, 09:05 AM
Cassandra will be important, just saying.

Sam-n-Jack-in-<3
July 26th, 2012, 08:55 AM
EXCELLENT episode...one of the best of Season 1.
Character observations:
-Teal'c being the one to get Cassandra to come out of hiding. That smile of his is awesome; so glad he used it more in the later seasons. :tealc:
-Sam staying with the girl even though she has other duties. She goes as far as getting pictures, nicer bedding, and stuffed animals to make it more comfortable for a kid. And then, of course, the complete and total anguish on her face as she kicks angrily at the wall in the elevator before punching the button and heading back down. Just goes to prove that, Air Force Captain or not, she still has those maternal instincts.
-Daniel's natural empathy had a chance to show itself here. He really seems to have a quiet, gentle manner about him. Gah, why can't he have a girlfriend who isn't taken over by a Goa'uld? :danielanime07:
-Jack was all military in this one. He seemed kind of cold...then again, he does bring by the dog at the end. Hey, whatever happened to that pooch, anyway? Did Jack keep him? Does Cassandra still have him? :confused:

All in all, another one of the best episodes ever.

Major_Clanger
September 30th, 2012, 08:03 AM
oh dear I don't like this ep.

I really would rather that Sam hadn't been relegated to the baby sitting role there, it would have been better to have been someone not from SG-1.

Apart from that, it was ok ish but not one for me to rewatch.
And why the heck didn't Jack let the puppy walk?

fems
September 30th, 2012, 08:09 AM
Um, there are two aliens in their group who probably aren't that familiar with dogs/puppies, so they (okay, Cassie is more likely than Teal'c) could get frightened/scared if an overenthusiastic puppy runs up to them...

Major_Clanger
September 30th, 2012, 08:49 AM
seriously?
rofl

Major_Clanger
September 30th, 2012, 10:20 AM
oh and isn't this our first introduction to the devine Col Maybourne?

GateGipsy
November 20th, 2012, 09:00 AM
OK so if they go according to schedule tonight's ep on Pick TV is Singularity. Now I can see that MC didn't really like this one (hope you're feeling better!) but I've only re-watched this once since it first aired so I don't remember a thing about it apart from the elevator scene and the ending with the puppy. Will be interesting to watch again - like watching it for the first time again! Anyone else watching tonight?

GateGipsy
November 21st, 2012, 02:11 AM
oh dear clearly Singularity is not an episode that pushes any of my buttons. I fell asleep about five minutes in and woke up just as they thought the bomb was going to go off. Clearly not an elevator though - where was Sam? Does anyone really like this one?

Seaboe Muffinchucker
November 21st, 2012, 08:42 AM
Does anyone really like this one?

Yes.

Seaboe

Jolinar_of_Malkshur
November 21st, 2012, 11:32 AM
Does anyone really like this one?

I like this one quite a bit actually, but then I'm a fan of Sam and Cassandra and enjoy their interactions, so as this is where it all began it has a special place in my heart ;) Have just recently re-watched it and am in the process of reviewing it on LiveJournal :)

discodiva
November 21st, 2012, 12:51 PM
I don't mind it....good acting from AT....very nice Early Daniel & Sam friendship and support which is lovely...the soppy music got on my nerves a bit....nice big telescope...;)


Oh and that dog at the end was simply gorgeous.....started me off on a long love affair with Shiba Inu's and/or Shiba Crosses... <3


Deeds xx

hedwig
November 21st, 2012, 01:21 PM
oh dear clearly Singularity is not an episode that pushes any of my buttons. I fell asleep about five minutes in and woke up just as they thought the bomb was going to go off. Clearly not an elevator though - where was Sam? Does anyone really like this one?

Yes. :)

GateGipsy
November 21st, 2012, 10:00 PM
well I'll just have to try again! I have always really liked the Daniel and Sam friendship too, and there was some good stuff in this episode. It just didn't hang together for me - I think I wanted to like it more than anything. Like Deeds I really liked the dog scene at the end, but mostly because we had all the guys out there together, somewhere other than the Stargate base or off world (or 'Toronto'). Actually on Earth!

So for those that enjoyed this one, what was it that you enjoyed?

Bagpuss
November 21st, 2012, 10:58 PM
What did I like? The small moments and beats,as ever really.:)

Team goodness all the way through the episode.

Introduction of Nirrti as a recurring menace and meddler.Humans had Linnea ,The Asgard had Loki.The Goa'uld had Nirrti as their "mad scientist."
Nirrti didn't appear onscreen but since the first time I ever saw this ep,I felt that plot contrivance added to her threat to Cassie/Earth.

( Sometimes "telling,not showing" works to heighten interest and drama.)

Sam/Janet friendship.Sam/Cassie bonding.

Beginning of the Sam-Janet-Cassandra family/friendship arc ( such as it was.Continued in eps ITLOD,Urgo,Rites of Passage...)

Jack/Teal'c dry humour while they were waiting on the planet.Got to love the "explanation" Jack gave when T wanted to know exactly what a Black hole is in astronomical terms.

Sam being vulnerable : Daniel offering to help her through.
I love the line (paraphrasing) where he tells her she doesn't have to be detached all the time .Civilian or military imo, they both have the right to care about a lonely kiddie and to have compassion for others.


Sam railing against leaving Cassie ,getting upset,ignoring Jack's order and then going back to face things together.

Loved the doggie and the whole scene in the Park.
I agree with Jack up to a point .Every kid should have a dog (or a pet of some kind) at some time where their family are pro-pet,and their housing situation allows animals.:D

( This of course excludes kids who have allergies,asthma,or don't want a pet.)

I'll think of more moments sometime,but I missed the ep on Pick TV ,and I'm going by what I noticed when I did a fast flip through the dvd scenes a few minutes ago.:o

GateGipsy
November 23rd, 2012, 12:58 AM
You're right in that all the right ingredients are there. Everything I really love about the show, which is mostly the camaraderie between the team. So why doesn't it grab my attention right from the start in the same way Hathor does (and that ep has far too little to recommend it by comparison!).

Jolinar_of_Malkshur
November 24th, 2012, 12:58 PM
As requested by GateGipsy, here's my review/ramblings on this episode: Singularity (http://midnight--gypsy.livejournal.com/82680.html) :)

Seaboe Muffinchucker
November 24th, 2012, 04:48 PM
So for those that enjoyed this one, what was it that you enjoyed?

Here's the thing: my analysis of why I like it isn't going to help you like it. I'm not you, and you're not me. I will say that one of the things I like about it is Jack as a competent leader and not a buffoon (as he sometimes was in the later years). Humor has not yet taken precedence over competency.

Seaboe

GateGipsy
December 4th, 2012, 05:25 AM
As requested by GateGipsy, here's my review/ramblings on this episode: Singularity (http://midnight--gypsy.livejournal.com/82680.html) :)

thanks! Will bookmark to read when finish work.

GateGipsy
December 4th, 2012, 05:27 AM
I certainly got rather furious with the whole if it's science then Jack can't know anything about it thing by Season 7. Like some guy who has his own telescope won't get how to use one all of a sudden (but was quite competent at using a whole observatory just a few years before).
Here's the thing: my analysis of why I like it isn't going to help you like it. I'm not you, and you're not me. I will say that one of the things I like about it is Jack as a competent leader and not a buffoon (as he sometimes was in the later years). Humor has not yet taken precedence over competency.

Seaboe

Falcon Horus
May 19th, 2013, 04:18 PM
The episode in which O'Neill shows he's smarter than he makes himself look. Loved Daniel's surprised What did you just say?... :p ...and initially he didn't spy on the neighbors. I have to say having a telescope myself, it's very tempting not to. :p

Nirrti's really bad-ass, and yet she'll make it into my favorite Goa'uld-list nonetheless.

Random note to the pyrotechnics crew: you should hide where you buried your explosions better cause the crater was there before the deathglider had even hit the ground. :p But I noticed only once.

Carter's pretty good with kids (must be cause she's an auntie). I like how Daniel was right there, offering his help and telling her she isn't alone (kinda a mirror scene to the one in season 5's Rite of Passage where he pretty much says the same to Fraiser).

Of course Janet's gonna keep Cassandra -- there's no one more qualified (no outsider anyway). However, I sincerely hope she doesn't have to count allergic to dogs to her already extensive allergy-collection. The every-kid-has-to-have-a-dog-rule might not go over well. :p

Btw, that dog looked really fluffy, though he was shedding hair by the gazillion if Jack's shirt was any indication. :p

Seaboe Muffinchucker
September 30th, 2013, 07:15 AM
I forgot to watch an episode last week, forgive me. Season 1, disk 4.

I've always liked this episode. I like enthusiastic Daniel and Sam, I like the way Sam ties her scientific curiosity to the deaths, I like how amazingly (unbelievably) fast Teal'c learns to use the controls of the telescope, I like the camera work on the wait for the explosion that never comes.

I also think Sam's explanation for why she thought it would be safe to go back to Cassandra is a wonderful piece of after the fact justification. I think what she initially told Jack "Sir, she's awake" is the real reason--she would rather die than leave that poor child alone. The business about knowing nothing would happen was a way of justifying her actions.

Seaboe

Radio Picon
October 7th, 2013, 10:44 AM
I was surprised how real this episode got towards the end when Sam took the girl deep underground. I was thinking to myself how dark the show had turned, but in a "real" way that made me think what I'd do in a similar situation.
I'm doing a first watch (sometimes rewatch) of the series and I don't know the first season well at all. I was expecting a lot more fluffy feel-good stuff than I'm getting which is good. I like the surprise.

AsgardGirl
September 15th, 2014, 06:18 AM
It is a good episode, but I don’t like it, I really don’t know even why. Maybe is just too big emotional drama for me. I like the smart Jack.

ngewakl
February 3rd, 2015, 11:01 PM
Good episode. Although I didn't buy that Sam Carter motherly type. She just seemed to young then and too much of a soldier. Also liked smart Jack.

maneth
August 19th, 2015, 09:14 AM
I really like smart Jack. :)

Pretty good episode, very dramatic.

jckfan55
August 20th, 2015, 02:08 PM
Good episode. Although I didn't buy that Sam Carter motherly type. She just seemed to young then and too much of a soldier. Also liked smart Jack.
I think we see she is a little uncomfortable with Cassandra at first but then really becomes attached to her. I thought that fit with what we knew about Carter so far.

Anja
September 5th, 2015, 07:09 AM
Nice personal interactions, far beyond military rules.
:sam::daniel::jack:

Claire98909
October 18th, 2015, 02:32 PM
DANIEL So, how sure were you really?
CARTER I can't explain it, Daniel; I just knew.
TEAL'C Mother's instinct, perhaps.
CARTER (Grins.) Subtle, but no. Dr. Fraiser is going to take her until we can find qualified parents.


What did Teal'c mean by "mother's instinct"? Did Carter have a kid in the past that she gave up for adoption or something? Perhaps she had one with Jonas Hanson? Doesn't Carter's "subtle" response imply that?

Falcon Horus
October 19th, 2015, 01:29 AM
Teal'c's just referring to the age old idea that women have a "mother's instinct" when it comes to children.

I consider it old-fashioned thinking, but that's me.

maternal instinct: "the natural tendency that a mother has to behave or react in a particular way around her child or children"

IMO, it was always implied that the job came first with Carter, so no children past or present (or future).

Claire98909
October 19th, 2015, 06:35 AM
Teal'c's just referring to the age old idea that women have a "mother's instinct" when it comes to children.

I consider it old-fashioned thinking, but that's me.

maternal instinct: "the natural tendency that a mother has to behave or react in a particular way around her child or children"

IMO, it was always implied that the job came first with Carter, so no children past or present (or future).

But the very definition that you provided states that it's an instinct that women who are already mothers have.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
October 19th, 2015, 07:04 AM
The assumption is that all women have it, whether or not they're mothers. Teal'c is saying that being exposed to Cassandra has brought it out in Carter.

It's sexism, is what it is, disguised as tradition. Not that TPTB would consider it that.

Seaboe

Falcon Horus
October 19th, 2015, 08:21 AM
The assumption is that all women have it, whether or not they're mothers. Teal'c is saying that being exposed to Cassandra has brought it out in Carter.

It's sexism, is what it is, disguised as tradition. Not that TPTB would consider it that.

What SB said.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
October 19th, 2015, 10:48 AM
SB--is that me? It's nice better than SM (please don't call me that), thank you.

Seaboe

Falcon Horus
October 19th, 2015, 11:07 AM
SB--is that me? It's nice better than SM (please don't call me that), thank you.

Wanted to refer to you as Boe first but didn't... though SM didn't make the list. :p

Anja
October 19th, 2015, 08:36 PM
The assumption is that all women have it, whether or not they're mothers. Teal'c is saying that being exposed to Cassandra has brought it out in Carter.

It's sexism, is what it is, disguised as tradition. Not that TPTB would consider it that.

Seaboe

If this is true how can the behaviour of many female mammals be explained which 'adopt' orphaned young ones without having babies themselves then - they don't know anything about sexism or traditions, do they?

Falcon Horus
October 20th, 2015, 12:40 AM
If this is true how can the behaviour of many female mammals be explained which 'adopt' orphaned young ones without having babies themselves then - they don't know anything about sexism or traditions, do they?

Except we're talking about humans - not animals.

It's blatant sexism. You obviously don't see it that way, but I and Seaboe do. So, I wonder, how's your maternal instinct? Do you have kids? Are you planning on having kids?

Anja
October 20th, 2015, 01:19 AM
Except we're talking about humans - not animals.

It's blatant sexism. You obviously don't see it that way, but I and Seaboe do. So, I wonder, how's your maternal instinct? Do you have kids? Are you planning on having kids?

We belong to the mammals, we've not come from a higher plane of existence - so why do you deny humans those basis genetic heritage? Are we so different that we, the human beings, do nothing that we cannot control or plan? No, much in us is ordered by genetics and there are differences between males and females - at least the females carry out the infants, this fact alone implies that there are genes for motherly behaviour. That's not sexism.

Falcon Horus
October 20th, 2015, 02:02 AM
That's not sexism.

It is when a man automatically assumes maternal instinct is inherint in every woman.

Sexism explained:


Sexism or gender discrimination is prejudice or discrimination based on a person's sex or gender. Sexism can affect any gender, but it is particularly documented as affecting women and girls. It has been linked to stereotypes and gender roles, and may include the belief that one sex or gender is intrinsically superior to another.

And I see you ignored my questions about your maternal instinct. Going by your username, I assume you are a woman so how's the maternal instinct going for you? What time is it on your biological clock? Not ticking yet or gone past kid two-point-oh?

Note: another question I'm fairly certain not every woman likes to hear every time the conversation turns to having children. :p

Anja
October 20th, 2015, 02:49 AM
It is when a man automatically assumes maternal instinct is inherint in every woman.

Sexism explained:



And I see you ignored my questions about your maternal instinct. Going by your username, I assume you are a woman so how's the maternal instinct going for you? What time is it on your biological clock? Not ticking yet or gone past kid two-point-oh?

Note: another question I'm fairly certain not every woman likes to hear every time the conversation turns to having children. :p

First: I know what sexism is (I own an appropriate dictionary - two actually).
Second: A female's genetics is bound to the ability of reproduction - it can't get lost (yes,there is crossing-over and gene deletion).
Third: Since it's not me in Singularity my motherly instincts are not the point here - but, yes, I do have them, I do have them a lot!!!
Evolution brought us humans to the peak of the mammals (so it's said) but evolution did not erase basic traits embedded in
the genetic making - females are different than males.
Proof the opposite and the next Nobel Prize will be yours.

Falcon Horus
October 20th, 2015, 04:12 AM
But it has nothing to do with genetics. I'm female too and I have no maternal instincts whatsoever. My clock's battery has been empty since the day I was born.

So there... your turn again.

Claire98909
October 20th, 2015, 06:34 AM
I'm a female and have a strong nurturing instinct for animals but really don't care for children. I'd risk my life to save a child's life but other than that I'd rather not interact with them.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
October 20th, 2015, 06:55 AM
The reason the assumption about Carter's maternal instincts is sexism is because Teal'c asks that only of the female in the group. He does not ask any of the men about their paternal instincts.

You may say all women have a biological imperative for reproduction and subsequent care of the resulting offspring, and that it is simply biology. Why don't you say the same about men? It's in their biology, too.

What makes it sexism is the assumption that only women (and all women) have it, without a corresponding assumption that men do, too.

ETA: Assumptions that only men have instincts (violence, e.g.) without a corresponding assumption that women do is also sexism. Not "reverse" sexism (there is no such thing), just sexism.

Seaboe

Claire98909
October 20th, 2015, 09:18 AM
Although in Teal'c's defense, Carter DID get incredibly attached to Cassie, far more than any of the guys. Which is why I wondered if Carter perhaps had a kid in her past who she gave up and was unconsciously trying to replace with Cassie.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
October 20th, 2015, 10:59 AM
Yes, she did get attached. And if he'd asked if Carter's attachment to the girl might lead to adoption, I wouldn't consider it sexist. But he didn't (or, rather, TPTB didn't). He queried her instincts instead.

Seaboe

Anja
October 20th, 2015, 11:11 AM
The reason the assumption about Carter's maternal instincts is sexism is because Teal'c asks that only of the female in the group. He does not ask any of the men about their paternal instincts.

You may say all women have a biological imperative for reproduction and subsequent care of the resulting offspring, and that it is simply biology. Why don't you say the same about men? It's in their biology, too.

What makes it sexism is the assumption that only women (and all women) have it, without a corresponding assumption that men do, too.

Seaboe

Teal'c didn't have any reason to ask one of his male team mates because none of them cared as much as Carter for the girl!!! If Jackson had stayed with her maybe he would have asked him the appropriate question.

Men can't give birth, that's a fact - so there is an undebatable difference between men and women. Newly born mammals can't survive without their mother so a 'mother' must have special instincts not to abandon their offspring. These instincts are always there they only have to be triggered - men don't have these, they can't let the babies suckle.
These instincts are not equally developed - some women may lack them but that's not the rule

Falcon Horus
October 20th, 2015, 01:08 PM
Men can't give birth, that's a fact - so there is an undebatable difference between men and women. Newly born mammals can't survive without their mother so a 'mother' must have special instincts not to abandon their offspring. These instincts are always there they only have to be triggered - men don't have these, they can't let the babies suckle.
These instincts are not equally developed - some women may lack them but that's not the rule

You know that hole you're digging - you're halfway to China by now. :rolleyes:

Claire98909
October 20th, 2015, 01:58 PM
I'm still confused about the exchange between Teal'C and Carter. Did Carter say "Subtle, but no" because Teal'C was hinting (or she assumed he was hinting) that she should be the one to adopt Cassie? It would make sense, since right after that she said that Janet was taking her.

Falcon Horus
October 20th, 2015, 02:05 PM
Teal'c doesn't hint. That's simply not in his nature. :p
Not in those early days anyway.

I can't remember exactly but I don't think Janet was first option. She would just take the kid home and look out for her until they found a suitable family but with all the paperwork and where Cassandra originated from, it would be a nightmare so it would be no surprise to Carter and the others if Janet would be the adoptive parent in the end.

Carter's married to the job. I think she was quite happy being Cassie's aunt of sorts, and probably her guardian in case something would happen to Janet... which in the end... well, we all know what happened in season 7 (if you haven't, I haven't spoiled it ... much).

Claire98909
October 20th, 2015, 02:39 PM
Teal'c doesn't hint. That's simply not in his nature. :p
Not in those early days anyway.

I can't remember exactly but I don't think Janet was first option. She would just take the kid home and look out for her until they found a suitable family but with all the paperwork and where Cassandra originated from, it would be a nightmare so it would be no surprise to Carter and the others if Janet would be the adoptive parent in the end.

Carter's married to the job. I think she was quite happy being Cassie's aunt of sorts, and probably her guardian in case something would happen to Janet... which in the end... well, we all know what happened in season 7 (if you haven't, I haven't spoiled it ... much).

Then why did Carter tell him "Subtle, but no" after he said "Mother's instinct, perhaps?"

Falcon Horus
October 20th, 2015, 02:58 PM
Then why did Carter tell him "Subtle, but no" after he said "Mother's instinct, perhaps?"

You said that you would save a child but beyond that want to keep them as far away from you as was humanly possible. Put yourself in Carter's position and think about what you would have done.

Cassie had fallen unconscious the closer she got to the gate, so with the bomb inside her chest ready to blow they took her to that silo in order to contain the blast. However, she woke up the further away they were from the gate, thus Carter more or less took a big risk, trusted her gut instinct and went back down. She wasn't sure but something told her that the kid was going to be just fine, and the bomb wouldn't go off. There was no 100% certainty her theory was correct but she risked her life to stay with the freightened Cassie, who - as we have to add - had already seen her entire village killed by Nirrti.

The Subtle, but no is in reference to her theory that Cassie would be just fine. It was a huge risk she took, but in the end she guessed right.

Or at least, that's how I see it. It's all superficial, and at that point in time TPTB simply had no deeper meaning to add.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
October 20th, 2015, 02:59 PM
Newly born mammals can't survive without their mother so a 'mother' must have special instincts not to abandon their offspring. These instincts are always there they only have to be triggered

Really? Always? You haven't read enough true crime, then. Twenty moms who killed their kids (http://thoughtcatalog.com/jim-goad/2014/04/20-moms-who-killed-their-kids/).

I'm done with this. You have your opinion (which you claim to be a biological imperative), I have mine. It's clear this is going nowhere.

Seaboe

Seaboe Muffinchucker
October 20th, 2015, 03:02 PM
Actually, Falcon Horus, I'm with Claire on this one. However, I don't think Teal'c was intentionally hinting. I think that was his way of asking if Carter was going to take Cassandra. She assumed it was a hint.

Seaboe

jckfan55
October 20th, 2015, 04:15 PM
^This.
Sam got attached to Cassie. No prior kids necessary for that.

Anja
October 21st, 2015, 01:43 AM
You know that hole you're digging - you're halfway to China by now. :rolleyes:

See, we work well together, don't we?

Anja
October 21st, 2015, 01:46 AM
Really? Always? You haven't read enough true crime, then. Twenty moms who killed their kids (http://thoughtcatalog.com/jim-goad/2014/04/20-moms-who-killed-their-kids/).

I'm done with this. You have your opinion (which you claim to be a biological imperative), I have mine. It's clear this is going nowhere.

Seaboe

Twenty moms amongst how many million? Glad you accept my opinion, feel better now. And it did go somewhere - I learned that I am a biological imperative. Can I print that on my cards?

Falcon Horus
October 21st, 2015, 04:02 AM
For the record...


Biological imperatives are the needs of living organisms required to perpetuate their existence: to survive. Include the following hierarchy of logical imperatives for a living organism: survival, territorialism, competition, reproduction, quality of life-seeking, and group forming. Living organisms that do not attempt to follow or do not succeed in satisfying these imperatives are described as maladaptive; those that do are adaptive.

You must have reached China by now. :rolleyes:
But good for you.

FYI, the rest of us are maladaptives and probably not considered "normal".
Good thing I'm gay and already considered abnormal. :p



Actually, Falcon Horus, I'm with Claire on this one. However, I don't think Teal'c was intentionally hinting. I think that was his way of asking if Carter was going to take Cassandra. She assumed it was a hint.

Teal'c was sincere in his own way. :p

Seaboe Muffinchucker
October 21st, 2015, 08:35 AM
Glad you accept my opinion, feel better now.

I accept that it's your opinion. I do not accept that it is correct.

Seaboe

Anja
October 21st, 2015, 08:52 PM
I accept that it's your opinion. I do not accept that it is correct.

Seaboe

Didn't say that, but I'm grateful that you allow me to have an opinion of my own!

Anja
October 21st, 2015, 08:58 PM
For the record...



You must have reached China by now. :rolleyes:
But good for you.

FYI, the rest of us are maladaptives and probably not considered "normal".


Not China, ocean because you always come out in water somewhere if you start digging on solid ground.
Just for the record: I've never ever said anything about the rest being maladaptive or not normal.

Falcon Horus
October 22nd, 2015, 02:05 AM
Just for the record: I've never ever said anything about the rest being maladaptive or not normal.

You didn't have to, the definition of the words did. ;)

Anja
October 22nd, 2015, 03:31 AM
You didn't have to, the definition of the words did. ;)

Which words?

Falcon Horus
October 22nd, 2015, 04:13 AM
...I learned that I am a biological imperative.

These words - I looked up what they meant, and as per its definition...

Biological imperatives are the needs of living organisms required to perpetuate their existence: to survive. Include the following hierarchy of logical imperatives for a living organism: survival, territorialism, competition, reproduction, quality of life-seeking, and group forming. Living organisms that do not attempt to follow or do not succeed in satisfying these imperatives are described as maladaptive; those that do are adaptive.

So by your own account you're adaptive, those of us without an inherent need to have children or wanting to nurture them are maladaptive, which if I look into the Thesaurus is synonym to maladjusted, nonadaptive, unfit, abnormal, defective, dysfunctional (at least I can put the FUN in it), flawed and unstable.

Anja
October 22nd, 2015, 04:21 AM
These words - I looked up what they meant, and as per its definition...

Biological imperatives are the needs of living organisms required to perpetuate their existence: to survive. Include the following hierarchy of logical imperatives for a living organism: survival, territorialism, competition, reproduction, quality of life-seeking, and group forming. Living organisms that do not attempt to follow or do not succeed in satisfying these imperatives are described as maladaptive; those that do are adaptive.

So by your own account you're adaptive, those of us without an inherent need to have children or wanting to nurture them are maladaptive, which if I look into the Thesaurus is synonym to maladjusted, nonadaptive, unfit, abnormal, defective, dysfunctional (at least I can put the FUN in it), flawed and unstable.

Problem is SB called me that I only mocked at the word I didn't accept that 'title'. (page 11). So, please, don't write "by your own account"!!!

Falcon Horus
October 22nd, 2015, 05:12 AM
Problem is SB called me that I only mocked at the word I didn't accept that 'title'. (page 11). So, please, don't write "by your own account"!!!

If it was only in geste, perhaps use a way to make it look as such... things get lost in translation, i.e. sarcasm and irony don't read well. A bit of :rolleyes: or a :p almost never do any harm...

Nevertheless, I know Seaboe a lot longer than I do you and she made a conclusion from your replies. So, I don't know... but I doubt much mocking needed to be done.

I also remember how you didn't seem to mind a little "healthy stalking" from the other half.... All that, an image makes. ;)

Claire98909
October 22nd, 2015, 08:01 AM
Oh good grief, what did I start here?

Falcon Horus
October 22nd, 2015, 02:33 PM
Oh good grief, what did I start here?

You created a monster. :p

Or, you know, opened a can of worms... :p

jelgate
October 22nd, 2015, 03:26 PM
Just like old times

Anja
October 22nd, 2015, 08:43 PM
Oh good grief, what did I start here?

Something good, good brain work and an exchange of attitudes (no irony involved here).
No reason for sleepless nights.
Simply fun and some thinking.
Do more!!!

Falcon Horus
October 23rd, 2015, 01:34 AM
Just like old times

And we remember them fondly... :p


Them days we broke GW... :p

Falcon Horus
November 17th, 2017, 04:44 PM
Another episode in season 1, I really enjoy rewatching. It delivers on a lot of my likes: a good portion of Fraiser (even off-world), drama, action and adventure, explosions, good character interactions, a new Goa'uld in town and causing trouble for Earth.

Note concerning the explosions: when Rick and Chris are running towards the gate, you can spot the place at one point where an explosion is going to hit. There's a neatly dug hole, which fits the blast of a virtual deathglider later in post, though the actual explosion happens right behind their heels. :p

The episode starts innocent enough with Jack all astronomical smart, blowing Daniel off his feet with his knowledge. Of course, he still uses the telescope to spy on his neighbors (I mean, who hasn't done that).
Off to see the wizard on Hanka... I mean, SG7 which has been preparing for the eclipse and the black hole show.

But [insert ominous music]... dead bodies are in the way of things... plague-ridden bodies, including SG7, and everyone's dead... except, nope one's alive. Technically, that should have set of an entire orchestra of alarmbells but well that would have made the remaining 30 minutes of the episode obsolete and we wouldn't have gotten that nice of bit Carter-drama in the elevator, or the Jackson/Carter/Fraiser working together moments.

Nirrti (who'll become one of my favorite Goa'uld in the series) is one sneaky bastard, and as the enemy of Apophis' one up him by destroying the stargate on Earth. That would have been quite a nodge on his belt (her belt but for now according to Teal'c it's a he). The Trojan Horse tactic works and Cassandra is wearing one hell of a suicide vest -- one that, from first looks, can't simply be cut away or taken off or away. Really puts an edge on things.

Anyway, like I said... I really enjoy Singularity as an episode and it is the beginning Fraiser's development as a fullblown character, and I really like that. Also, the dog at the end... furball of cute!

How would you rate SG-1's "Singularity?"

Excellent
Good
Fair
Poor
Terrible

I'm giving it an excellent, because it delivers on all my personal likes.

Falcon Horus
November 18th, 2017, 03:46 PM
Here I am with the 3-episode quiz (https://goo.gl/forms/n2ihrJCAG5F4PcBE3) and the jigsaw puzzle for Singularity (https://www.jigidi.com/solve.php?id=HDE7WX7I).

Seaboe Muffinchucker
November 20th, 2017, 06:52 AM
Note concerning the explosions: when Rick and Chris are running towards the gate...
If you look carefully, at least during part of that run, it's not Rick, it's Dan. Their runs are different.

Looking for Dan-as-Rick--without going frame by frame--is one of my little pleasures. :D

I too like this episode. Except... putting on their gear before they clean their hands means they've contaminated their gear. Not to mention that by the time they put their gear on, they've already been exposed.

Seaboe

Falcon Horus
November 21st, 2017, 03:46 AM
If you look carefully, at least during part of that run, it's not Rick, it's Dan. Their runs are different.

Ah... now I'm gonna pay attention to even more of those little details. :p


I too like this episode. Except... putting on their gear before they clean their hands means they've contaminated their gear. Not to mention that by the time they put their gear on, they've already been exposed.

And Jack also leaves the swipe with the body -- didn't his momma teach him to take his trash with him or to recycle it in the appropriate bins. :weiranime34:

hedwig
November 21st, 2017, 12:38 PM
If you look carefully, at least during part of that run, it's not Rick, it's Dan. Their runs are different.

Looking for Dan-as-Rick--without going frame by frame--is one of my little pleasures. :D

I too like this episode. Except... putting on their gear before they clean their hands means they've contaminated their gear. Not to mention that by the time they put their gear on, they've already been exposed.

Seaboe

Dan is actually the one carrying Sam back over the walkway after she passed out. :)

aretood2
November 21st, 2017, 01:51 PM
8 Minutes and 57 Seconds.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
November 22nd, 2017, 06:18 AM
Dan is actually the one carrying Sam back over the walkway after she passed out. :)

He's also the one carrying temporarily dead Daniel through the Stargate in the Light. :D

Seaboe

Who Knows
November 22nd, 2017, 03:51 PM
10 min 21 sec & 9/15

jelgate
November 23rd, 2017, 06:47 AM
Sorry FH. I have to disagree. If I was to describe this episode it's boredom. I don't hate it but I'm so tired watching the Cassandra story. I never liked her as a character. I was more interested it what the Goa'uld Nirriti which was kind of glossed over why she did what she did. That is until S5. SG1 has to have terrible Haznat protocol. I'm calling this poor

aretood2
November 23rd, 2017, 12:12 PM
I saw it more as an average episode. I never thought of it being anything special.
I do like how in the future they did revisit the whole "Hey we brought an alien kid back to earth" thing.
Though this did bring a question to mind...don't you think Teal'c would have been writing a "Goa'uld for Dummies" book for everyone and have it be required reading? I mean this isn't the only time a "Oops,
I forgot to tell you about this plot relevant Goa'uld thing". :P

Falcon Horus
November 23rd, 2017, 03:46 PM
Let's call the recurring theme of "Oh, small oversight..."

jelgate
November 24th, 2017, 05:00 PM
7 minutes and 35 seconds. Felt a little pressure there PuzzleTood

Falcon Horus
November 25th, 2017, 10:03 AM
LOL -- PuzzleTood :p

aretood2
November 25th, 2017, 12:05 PM
I find that to be a very...puzzling name.

Falcon Horus
November 29th, 2017, 12:32 PM
6:56

BethHG
June 12th, 2018, 11:31 AM
11:49

Loved this episode! I really liked seeing the more emotional side of Sam. AT was amazing in the elevator scene!

Falcon Horus
June 12th, 2018, 12:07 PM
AT was amazing in the elevator scene!

Director kicked her verbally in the gut for that -- he told her what an awful person she was, leaving that little girl all alone down there. What kind of a person does that? You're a monster. It worked. :p

Platschu
August 21st, 2018, 11:18 AM
Errors:

1. The symbol of the Tauri is upside down on Sam's uniform:
http://csillagkapu.hu/kep.php?kep=http://kepek.csillagkapu.hu/hiba/1x14/04.jpg

2. Teal'c changed the gender of Nirrti:
"This Goa'uld Nirti, he once sent an emissary of peace to negotiate a treaty concerning a Stargate Apophis had taken control of. The negotiation was a ploy. The Stargate was destroyed."
While we know that the "he" is actually will be a "she" in season 3.

3. They go down only 28 floors and not 30 as Jack said it.
"O'NEILL : This elevator goes down thirty floors through solid rock. Takes about three minutes to get to the bottom. That gives you four minutes to start back up."

4. The extra moves slightly her head:
http://csillagkapu.hu/kep.php?kep=http://kepek.csillagkapu.hu/hiba/1x14/03.jpg

5. The desinfection gate disappears during the dialing.
http://csillagkapu.hu/kep.php?kep=http://kepek.csillagkapu.hu/hiba/1x14/01.jpg
http://csillagkapu.hu/kep.php?kep=http://kepek.csillagkapu.hu/hiba/1x14/02.jpg
My comment : The kawoosh would have destroyed it anyway.

6. There was sunshine on planet Hanka, while they were expecting a solar eclipse.