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SG7
June 6th, 2010, 03:16 PM
Ok. Definately an intense episode for me. Especially when Young was talking to TJ and advised her to stay in the infirmary for when the attack occurs. And that they would probably be needing her help. I almost melted when she said that they would need a doctor and not her. To which Young replied something along the lines of she was what they had.

It was an intense scene when Young tells TJ that he would be venting the Gate room. Could really see some interesting interractions between Young and TJ.

And when they captured her I almost cried. The expression on Young when he found out that she was among the hostages. I liked that when she was talking to him, he referred to her as "Leutenant" rather than TJ. Much safer for her if there is no knowledge that he has any personal investment in her. So if all she is to him (in front of the LA) is just one of his "military personnel", then there is less of a chance of something happening to her.

What does everyone else think?

xxxevilgrinxxx
June 6th, 2010, 04:03 PM
Ok. Definately an intense episode for me. Especially when Young was talking to TJ and advised her to stay in the infirmary for when the attack occurs. And that they would probably be needing her help. I almost melted when she said that they would need a doctor and not her. To which Young replied something along the lines of she was what they had.

It was an intense scene when Young tells TJ that he would be venting the Gate room. Could really see some interesting interractions between Young and TJ.

And when they captured her I almost cried. The expression on Young when he found out that she was among the hostages. I liked that when she was talking to him, he referred to her as "Leutenant" rather than TJ. Much safer for her if there is no knowledge that he has any personal investment in her. So if all she is to him (in front of the LA) is just one of his "military personnel", then there is less of a chance of something happening to her.

What does everyone else think?

you've nailed all the big points for me and I'll add only one: the very brief but, given how sparing Young is with affection - telling, PDA where he has his hand on her lower back to take her separate from the others. He doesn't do that, go around touching people, he always seems super-reserved, so that he did that is a big deal. Might as well be a kiss from his end.

LF has this wonderfully expressive face that is just great for what I call guy expressions and he can really say quite a bit with just a look. When he relates how he's going to deal with the LA, and later, when he found out that TJ had been captured, it just yanked on me. That's a guy that, whether he wants to or not, wears his hurt right out on his sleeve.

I was very worried for TJ the character as well as AH the actress. When the LA had her with her arms up, my first thought was worry, in that she's carrying a real child and it's not likely a good pose for her. I hope they didn't keep her like that for too long :( I know she's fine and that pregnant women do all sorts of things but it was still this gut reaction. then again, I think I'd feel it even if I didn't know she was pregnant, because these characters have really come to matter to me when I'm watching.

carmencatalina
June 6th, 2010, 08:09 PM
I was very worried for TJ the character as well as AH the actress. When the LA had her with her arms up, my first thought was worry, in that she's carrying a real child and it's not likely a good pose for her. I hope they didn't keep her like that for too long :( I know she's fine and that pregnant women do all sorts of things but it was still this gut reaction..

Seriously, you need to stop worrying. Being pregnant isn't being made of fine china - I've had 2 kids, worked all the way through both pregnancies, and worked out/been active/gone hiking well into the beginning of my third trimester each time. So have many, many women. You are actually usually quite healthy and hearty during any normal pregnancy, and given that this was AH 3rd kid (she looks so fabulous! You go girl!), she was probably healthy as a horse all through.

(Given that she twittered her delivery - I'm guessing she was more than fine.)

Pharaoh Atem
June 6th, 2010, 08:11 PM
i dont' think young really dedicated to the baby.

xxxevilgrinxxx
June 6th, 2010, 08:16 PM
Seriously, you need to stop worrying. Being pregnant isn't being made of fine china - I've had 2 kids, worked all the way through both pregnancies, and worked out/been active/gone hiking well into the beginning of my third trimester each time. So have many, many women. You are actually usually quite healthy and hearty during any normal pregnancy, and given that this was AH 3rd kid (she looks so fabulous! You go girl!), she was probably healthy as a horse all through.

(Given that she twittered her delivery - I'm guessing she was more than fine.)

I'm fully aware of that, Carmen and you're talking to a mother, so I'm aware. I mentioned that it was a gut reaction; those generally can't be helped and it's a measure of how much the characters have come to mean to me.

carmencatalina
June 6th, 2010, 08:19 PM
I guess I don't get that gut reaction at all - maybe I'm just used to thinking that pregnant women are pretty tough, I haven't really been worried about TJ at all.

Although:

I am fairly certain that the pregnancy will not end well, because I think the writers aren't going to have a baby on the Destiny for long, or at all. But that is a plot-based reason - and I could be wrong.

magictrick
June 6th, 2010, 08:50 PM
I guess I don't get that gut reaction at all - maybe I'm just used to thinking that pregnant women are pretty tough, I haven't really been worried about TJ at all.

Although:

I am fairly certain that the pregnancy will not end well, because I think the writers aren't going to have a baby on the Destiny for long, or at all. But that is a plot-based reason - and I could be wrong.

Yep, I'm predicting that Incursion Part 2 will not end well for either TJ or the baby.

SG7
June 6th, 2010, 10:52 PM
you've nailed all the big points for me and I'll add only one: the very brief but, given how sparing Young is with affection - telling, PDA where he has his hand on her lower back to take her separate from the others. He doesn't do that, go around touching people, he always seems super-reserved, so that he did that is a big deal. Might as well be a kiss from his end.

Yeh, he seems to give off those very subtle but perfect things that show that he deeply cares for and is concerned for TJ their baby that she is carrying.


LF has this wonderfully expressive face that is just great for what I call guy expressions and he can really say quite a bit with just a look. When he relates how he's going to deal with the LA, and later, when he found out that TJ had been captured, it just yanked on me. That's a guy that, whether he wants to or not, wears his hurt right out on his sleeve.

Amen to that.


I was very worried for TJ the character as well as AH the actress. When the LA had her with her arms up, my first thought was worry, in that she's carrying a real child and it's not likely a good pose for her. I hope they didn't keep her like that for too long :( I know she's fine and that pregnant women do all sorts of things but it was still this gut reaction. then again, I think I'd feel it even if I didn't know she was pregnant, because these characters have really come to matter to me when I'm watching.

I wouldn't be worried at all. They have James Bamford (BamBam) who does all the stunt co-ordinating and he is very carefull to ensure the safety of all the cast and crew. And I can almost guarantee that he would have gone over the scenes with Alaina to ensure that she was comfortable with anything and everything that she would have to do in the scenes. Just in my own chats that I have had with him (on his thread on here and on twitter) I can see that he would have never had Alaina do anything that would be dangerous for her or her RL baby that she was carrying at the time. Alaina said on Friday on the live chat that she was eight months pregnant in RL when they shot that episode.

SG7
June 6th, 2010, 11:01 PM
I'm fully aware of that, Carmen and you're talking to a mother, so I'm aware. I mentioned that it was a gut reaction; those generally can't be helped and it's a measure of how much the characters have come to mean to me.

I can understand that. As soon as I found out that TJ was pregnant, I began to invest heavily into the character myself, and I just assumed that Alaina was pregnant in RL at the time (I never follow spoilers) and didn't actually know for certian that she was pregnant in RL. So yeh, I too would be having those "moments" where I would for a few seconds or so be concerned, or cry or something.

Mostly it is because Alaina is such an amazing actress who has portrayed TJ far more beautifully than I could have ever expected. And as I read Q&A's and interviews where she explains telling TPTB that she was pregnant and that they opted to write her RL pregnancy into the story makes it all that more enjoyable for me. Knowing that TPTB could have either written her out of the storyline for a while or made her use "props" to hide her pregnancy. So I am glad that they did choose to incorporate her RL pregnancy into the story and allowed TJ to be pregnant at the same time.

Egle01
June 7th, 2010, 02:34 AM
So I am glad that they did choose to incorporate her RL pregnancy into the story and allowed TJ to be pregnant at the same time.So am I. Really happy with this pregnancy storyline.

Now, if only the baby would be safe... :(

SG7
June 7th, 2010, 08:34 AM
So am I. Really happy with this pregnancy storyline.

Now, if only the baby would be safe... :(

That will be the million dollar question.

I am glad too they incorporated it into the storyline. Cause I bet it would have been harder for Alaina to have to use "props" to hide the pregnancy than it would have been to just incoporate it and have TJ pregnant too. And I would have been dissappointed if they had written her out for a time. Because that would have been about a half dozen episodes give or take.

Utitan
June 7th, 2010, 10:59 AM
I honestly think a Baby aboard Destiny would fit in perfectly.

What I was wondering however.. Why is TJ against venting and killing the LA incursion? There are not very many options here.. Take hostages and keep them alive with already scarce resources?

carmencatalina
June 7th, 2010, 12:01 PM
Why is TJ against venting and killing the LA incursion? There are not very many options here.. Take hostages and keep them alive with already scarce resources?

I've been thinking about this a bit - maybe it is just the medic in her - she is trained to save lives, and was going to go to medical school. Killing all those people is a hard thing - even if you think there is no other choice, and dying that way is pretty horrible.

xxxevilgrinxxx
June 7th, 2010, 12:07 PM
I've been thinking about this a bit - maybe it is just the medic in her - she is trained to save lives, and was going to go to medical school. Killing all those people is a hard thing - even if you think there is no other choice, and dying that way is pretty horrible.

I agree. It's not only hard on her as far as knowing that all those people will die, but that they will die for her. She didn't want anyone to give their life for her in Air either. I think having Young being responsible for the killing may also weight on her, as she's been the one to bring up what such a choice has cost him personally.

SG7
June 7th, 2010, 01:13 PM
I honestly think a Baby aboard Destiny would fit in perfectly.

What I was wondering however.. Why is TJ against venting and killing the LA incursion? There are not very many options here.. Take hostages and keep them alive with already scarce resources?

I agree that a baby on board the Destiny would be a bright spot on the gloomy atmosphere of the ship. Would be a great morale booster. Though I somehow don't see TPTB writing TJ's baby as being on the ship for long if at all. It would mean that they have to cast babies into the show (and probably at least a couple of them given the working restrictions that may be in place for using them in the show). Which would be more of an inconvenience than a benifit to the show unfortunately. In theory it would be great for the morale of the people on Destiny, in practicality it probably would be more work than the benifit it would produce.

Egle01
June 7th, 2010, 01:22 PM
Keeping the baby would be, yes, more inconvenient than just getting rid of it. But if done right, the baby storyline could add so much to the overall story.

carmencatalina
June 7th, 2010, 01:50 PM
I guess I'm in the minority - no babies and no kids on spaceships for me, thanks! (Yes, I know BSG did it, didn't like it then, either).

SG7
June 7th, 2010, 03:09 PM
Keeping the baby would be, yes, more inconvenient than just getting rid of it. But if done right, the baby storyline could add so much to the overall story.

I agree that it could add so much more to the storyline. Wouldn't even need the baby in every episode. As long as we saw him/her every couple of episodes or two and just make references to the baby in the others would be all we need.

But then again it would mean that TPTB would have to cast one or more babies for the show which I don't know if they would want to do beyond a few episodes or so. I hope that they prove me wrong. I wouldn't want to see the baby every episode, but would like to see at least some TJ/Young moments with the baby.

Major_Griff
June 7th, 2010, 03:14 PM
Keeping the baby would be, yes, more inconvenient than just getting rid of it. But if done right, the baby storyline could add so much to the overall story.

I would love it if they kept the baby as a story line going forward, ultimately leading to us getting to see how this child would grow up on Destiny. I could see the PTB actually doing this because a lot of what has made SGU so refreshing is that they keep doing things that they would have never done on SG-1 and SGA, so maybe they'll do this instead of mostly keeping the baby out of it like they did with Teyla's baby (at least until Michael showed up).

Egle01
June 8th, 2010, 03:52 AM
I agree that it could add so much more to the storyline. Wouldn't even need the baby in every episode. As long as we saw him/her every couple of episodes or two and just make references to the baby in the others would be all we need.That's what I think/hope, too.


I could see the PTB actually doing this because a lot of what has made SGU so refreshing is that they keep doing things that they would have never done on SG-1 and SGA, so maybe they'll do this instead of mostly keeping the baby out of it like they did with Teyla's baby (at least until Michael showed up).After seeing "Space" promo pics, I was sure that PTB will hook TJ up with Caine, so he could babysit the kid, like it was with Teyla and Kanaan (sp?) in SGA. But luckily that didn't happen. :)

SG7
June 8th, 2010, 11:30 AM
That's what I think/hope, too.

After seeing "Space" promo pics, I was sure that PTB will hook TJ up with Caine, so he could babysit the kid, like it was with Teyla and Kanaan (sp?) in SGA. But luckily that didn't happen. :)

Somehow I don't see TPTB keeping the baby around. Though that could just be "the glass is half empty" part of me thinking. Knowing how they treated Teyla's baby storyline after she had her baby.

Luckily this time around, they were actually really good with how they treated TJ's pregnancy. They gave Alaina a very good storyline to work with for TJ and it was very well done. Which I am sooo glad of. I would have been royally annoyed if they had have given Alaina a hokey storyline like they did with Teyla, as I love Alaina's work. It helps that Alaina is an amazing actress and has portrayed TJ beautifully too.

Now if only we would get the screencaps up for the episode! Been dying to see some screencaps! :)