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    Kiva vs TJ

    I know Kiva is a cold hearted no nonsense commander, but to pick a pregnant lady as the first hostage to execute is a little low even by evil standards.

    If not for Telford's intervention, I wonder if any of the other hostages would have volunteered in her stead? Any heroes? What if Scott or Young were hostages too, do you think they would have given up their lives for TJ? (This is only a question of value of life, not what will actually happen).

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    Kiva's the womp! Badest biatch on the boat!
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      #3
      Originally posted by pipi View Post
      I know Kiva is a cold hearted no nonsense commander, but to pick a pregnant lady as the first hostage to execute is a little low even by evil standards.
      Probably another pro-abortion zealots.
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        #4
        Threatening to use TJ as an example is a means of ramping up the emotional blackmail on Young in the hostage situation.
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          #5
          Originally posted by Shai Hulud View Post
          Threatening to use TJ as an example is a means of ramping up the emotional blackmail on Young in the hostage situation.
          You're suggesting Kiva has got intel that TJ has Young's kid (probably from Telford). But if Kiva was using that as leverage then she wouldn't have caved with the medic excuse Telford thought of.

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            #6
            Nope, just saying that threatening to shoot a pregnant crew member elicits a greater emotional response than simply threatening to shoot a random crew member who isnt up the duff. Kiva's already told Rush she has detailed info on the crew of Destiny, I wouldnt be surprised if she knew about Young and TJ?
            Bless the Maker and all His Water. Bless the coming and going of Him, May His passing cleanse the world. May He keep the world for his people.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Shai Hulud View Post
              Threatening to use TJ as an example is a means of ramping up the emotional blackmail on Young in the hostage situation.
              I don't remember Kiva ever mentioning to Young she took TJ as one of the first 3 sacrificed human hostages. I could be wrong about that, but I just don't remember it.

              As I said in the other thread, if TJ dies, she would loose her main bargaining chip with Young. How may says to himself (consciously or not), from her point of view: "Frak it, let's vent the place, since the person I cared more about his dead."
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                #8
                Kiva should have shot two or three red shirts right then and there. As it is, her status as badass villain is very much in doubt.

                Kolya/Genii invading Atlantis > Kiva/Lucians invading Destiny
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                  #9
                  kiva knows young and the tauri in general are softies when it comes down to it, so she picked a person for the execution who would put their message best across

                  after all she executed one of her own crew for alleged incompetence without even considering to verify whether rush was telling the truth or not
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by sblade View Post
                    Kiva should have shot two or three red shirts right then and there. As it is, her status as badass villain is very much in doubt.
                    She was going to kill a pregnant woman before somebody stopped her. Isn't that enough? What do you want her to do, kill children then eat their brains to gain their power?
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                      #11
                      Kiva and TJ......mmmmm

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by escyos View Post
                        Kiva and TJ......mmmmm
                        Never going to happen
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Makenshi View Post
                          Never going to happen
                          Now Kiva and Wray is another story
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                          Jelgate is right

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                            #14
                            I actually was wondering if she WOULD have pulled the trigger.. or whether young would have caved.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Makenshi View Post
                              Never going to happen
                              not with that attitude...

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