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GateWorld
May 15th, 2010, 12:51 PM
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 223</FONT>
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Olivia approaches her other self for help in rescuing Peter, who has been asked by his father to aide in a project with far-reaching consequences. Walter and Bell reunite to find a way to open the door back home.

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the fifth man
May 22nd, 2010, 06:38 PM
Thanks for opening the thread.:)

This season finale was amazing. Season 3 really can't come soon enough.

Dusk
May 23rd, 2010, 05:24 AM
I completely agree, a stunner!

What troubles me is that its fan base seems small, however we are dedicated. For instance, where are all the fans on GateWorld? Is it just you, me and a small handful of others? Seriously, this show is great, and superior to several shows with threads on here, some of them I hesitate to mention for fear of reprisal, but it's true none the less.

How did they miss Olivia!!? Fools! Now, poor thing, she's holed up in confinement suffering who knows what. Surely Peter and/or Liv's sister and niece will expose her. Also, Leonard Nemoy is a joy to have for the entire episode, in the flesh! I truly hope he did not die. It looks like deliberate ambiguity to keep the option open.

I'm overjoyed that a third season has been commissioned, but seriously, where are the viewers? If the show doesn't start to get an average up past 7/8 there may be problems.

Killdeer
May 23rd, 2010, 05:34 AM
1) So Peter is back where he belongs, but Olivia is trapped. I saw that switch coming a mile away but hoped I was wrong (I guess I don't like plot twists to be quite so obvious). I hope they don't drag that out too long next season. If Olivia has the power to jump between universes, couldn't she just jump back? Or maybe she has to be in a certain place? That makes me think though - how could Alt!Olivia open the door? Are we supposed to assume the cortexiphan experiments happened in that universe too?

2) I like the relationship between Olivia and Peter though - it's just quiet and understated but there.

3) William Bell is gone now - it was great to see Nimoy one last time. I hate to lose him but I knew someone was going to die and I was afraid it would be Walter or Peter or even Astrid (I figured Olivia was safe). Too bad they killed off the other cortexiphan kids so quickly though.

4) I'm not seeing any chatter about it, but what did Bell mean when he told Peter "I'm surprised to see you holding up so well." I'm thinking there's something wrong with Peter that we will find out next season

5) I'm grateful that we get one more season of this show, but judging by the ratings I hope the writers treat this next season as the last and write an appropriate wrap up to the story. :S I'm enjoying the show, but I still have this uneasy fear that sooner or later I'm going to be left hanging without any resolution.

KEK
May 23rd, 2010, 07:40 AM
I enjoyed it, but I thought the twist was very obvious.

krahen
May 24th, 2010, 04:15 PM
I enjoyed it, but I thought the twist was very obvious.

It was not so obvious to me. I only figured when Olivia asked for a typewriter... I am a bit dissapointed, because red hair`s Olivia should not able to jump...
The show is great.
As it stated before me I would love to read more review from people too. I am sure Fringe has the same amount of funs than V, Universe.....

the fifth man
May 24th, 2010, 07:35 PM
I enjoyed it, but I thought the twist was very obvious.

Kind of obvious or not, it was still exciting to watch IMO. I can't wait to see how they plan to get her back (when they find out, that is).

magictrick
May 25th, 2010, 01:12 PM
Yea that plot twist was obvious, I knew it from the scene where our Olivia changes her hair colour.

Other then that, the finale was really good. Seems like there's lots of great story lines that can be explored in season 3. I want to see the interaction between Peter and alternate Olivia, I think he will be the one to spot the difference.

Linda06
May 25th, 2010, 01:59 PM
So is was really getting excited about part 1 tonight. So there I was, pressing my sky remote to go to sky planner so I can watch CSI LV which I taped and noticed that Fringe wasn't on the list. Strange, I thought cause I have it on so it tapes automatically each week. So I went to sky one in TV guide and what happened? LOST is on instead. Bloody LOST, the last two eps. It was only on at the blinkin' weekend :mckay: oh I am angry with sky :mad: All I can say is thank goodness LOST is finished for good.

magictrick
May 25th, 2010, 05:20 PM
So is was really getting excited about part 1 tonight. So there I was, pressing my sky remote to go to sky planner so I can watch CSI LV which I taped and noticed that Fringe wasn't on the list. Strange, I thought cause I have it on so it tapes automatically each week. So I went to sky one in TV guide and what happened? LOST is on instead. Bloody LOST, the last two eps. It was only on at the blinkin' weekend :mckay: oh I am angry with sky :mad: All I can say is thank goodness LOST is finished for good.

I hope you got to watch it before you got on here, because this thread is full of spoilers!

Linda06
May 26th, 2010, 08:10 AM
I hope you got to watch it before you got on here, because this thread is full of spoilers!

I wad a good girl, I haven't read the rest of the thread :D I just needed to vent my frustration :o

Krisz
May 28th, 2010, 11:49 AM
So is was really getting excited about part 1 tonight. So there I was, pressing my sky remote to go to sky planner so I can watch CSI LV which I taped and noticed that Fringe wasn't on the list. Strange, I thought cause I have it on so it tapes automatically each week. So I went to sky one in TV guide and what happened? LOST is on instead. Bloody LOST, the last two eps. It was only on at the blinkin' weekend :mckay: oh I am angry with sky :mad: All I can say is thank goodness LOST is finished for good.

I hate when that happens!!! BBC 2 used to be extra bad for that, tuning in for my favourite Sci Fi show and finding snooker or some other inane form of 'entertainment' on instead!!! I understand your pain!!! It happened last Friday to me when I tuned in to watch SGU on the SPACE channel here and there was a horror movie on, I hate horror movies!!!! Grrrr.

As for the season finale, pretty obvious. I wonder why alternate versions of various heroes always have to be scarred, careworn and with some kind of chip on their shoulders'!!!! It disappointed me a bit to see this approach being used on Fringe, I thought there would be something a bit more original with the portrayal of their alternate selves.

Leonard Nimoy was a joy to watch though, his character and Walter bickering even as everything was going on around them. I'm hoping we do see him again too, it would be interesting to find out more about what they did together and why Walter asked that parts of his brain were removed.

I'm betting 'our' reality's Olivia escapes, that scene while expected was so sad, to see her locked away in the dark. I'm thinking that she is going to use her 'powers' to get out. The image of the blasted room with the child size clear bit of wall comes to mind. If she's pushed to the limit I think she will reach the potential her powers can reach and exact vengeance on the alternate Walter for locking her up like that, and then go get her counterpart. Next season's going to be fun!

I'm glad that this show didn't go the way of only two seasons and then dropped when it has so much more to tell us like some other good shows with great characters and ideas that were dropped. Even if season 3 is the last, at least they can go out with the bang this show deserves. :)

Linda06
June 2nd, 2010, 07:39 AM
I hate when that happens!!! BBC 2 used to be extra bad for that, tuning in for my favourite Sci Fi show and finding snooker or some other inane form of 'entertainment' on instead!!! I understand your pain!!! It happened last Friday to me when I tuned in to watch SGU on the SPACE channel here and there was a horror movie on, I hate horror movies!!!! Grrrr.

As for the season finale, pretty obvious. I wonder why alternate versions of various heroes always have to be scarred, careworn and with some kind of chip on their shoulders'!!!! It disappointed me a bit to see this approach being used on Fringe, I thought there would be something a bit more original with the portrayal of their alternate selves.

Leonard Nimoy was a joy to watch though, his character and Walter bickering even as everything was going on around them. I'm hoping we do see him again too, it would be interesting to find out more about what they did together and why Walter asked that parts of his brain were removed.

I'm betting 'our' reality's Olivia escapes, that scene while expected was so sad, to see her locked away in the dark. I'm thinking that she is going to use her 'powers' to get out. The image of the blasted room with the child size clear bit of wall comes to mind. If she's pushed to the limit I think she will reach the potential her powers can reach and exact vengeance on the alternate Walter for locking her up like that, and then go get her counterpart. Next season's going to be fun!

I'm glad that this show didn't go the way of only two seasons and then dropped when it has so much more to tell us like some other good shows with great characters and ideas that were dropped. Even if season 3 is the last, at least they can go out with the bang this show deserves. :)

Ah yes, I remember BBC2 for that :mckay: Especially with DS9 or The X-Files, they used to do it all the time.

I saw part one and wow does this show ever do a bad ep? Well I don't count the musical extravaganza cause I believe that was them just being silly :p Oh I can't wait till next week to see part two....*jumps up and down excitedly* :D Unless they replace it with the gazillionth repeat of the LOST finale that is :p

Oh I hope it doesn't end on too much of a cliffie. I hate cliffies :mckay: Mind you, not as much as I hate them taking a 3 month break half way through a season :mckay: It's times like that I still wish the UK were months behind the US so we didn't have to endure that too :p

the fifth man
June 2nd, 2010, 06:49 PM
I think you are in for a real treat.

Linda06
June 5th, 2010, 12:43 PM
I think you are in for a real treat.

Really? :D Awesome :D I just love this show so much it ain't real :D

the fifth man
June 5th, 2010, 06:08 PM
Really? :D Awesome :D I just love this show so much it ain't real :D

I have really grown to love it as well. My Dad really likes it too, and now, I have even gotten my wife into it. We started watching Season 1 together just last week.

Angela V
June 6th, 2010, 07:51 AM
After seeing that ending am I ever glad Fringe was renewed! Okay so the Olivia switch was easy to guess but it will give us something different next season. I for one hope the switch stays for awhile. This can give us some more insight into the Alt universe.

I snatched season 1 of Fringe on DVD at $18.88 in Canada's WalMart. It was weird. About 5 had that price and the rest were the huge $50 something. It scanned in at the cash but the cashier I got actually ran to check out the displays herself (she said it was faster!) since I said there were others marked that way. She came back with something written on her hand that she had to punch into the cash and I got my Fringe for dirt cheap! HA! Now I can convert my hubby. He's watched a few episodes this season with me and has gotten lost a few times. So I said it's just easier for him to watch season 1 with me.

Linda06
June 6th, 2010, 08:48 AM
I have really grown to love it as well. My Dad really likes it too, and now, I have even gotten my wife into it. We started watching Season 1 together just last week.

Coll, I think more and more people are beginning to realise just how good it's became and started to give it more of a chance :D

the fifth man
June 6th, 2010, 06:19 PM
Coll, I think more and more people are beginning to realise just how good it's became and started to give it more of a chance :D

I sure hope that is the case. That could help the ratings next season.

Linda06
June 7th, 2010, 06:42 AM
I sure hope that is the case. That could help the ratings next season.

I hope so too. I'm trying to convince FoXy to give it another chance ;)

I watch it, my brother watches it, the cleaner at my work watches it :D

Oh part 2 is on tomorrow night, I can't wait :D :D :D :D It's getting so exciting :D

the fifth man
June 7th, 2010, 06:47 PM
I hope so too. I'm trying to convince FoXy to give it another chance ;)

I watch it, my brother watches it, the cleaner at my work watches it :D

Oh part 2 is on tomorrow night, I can't wait :D :D :D :D It's getting so exciting :D

I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

Linda06
June 8th, 2010, 10:44 AM
I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

Oh I am 100% positive I will :D




:eek: WHAT HAPPENED??? I'VE BECOME OPTIMISTIC...I'M NOT MEANT TO BE OPTIMISTIC....I'M A DEVOUT PESSIMIST!!! *runs away screaming*

the fifth man
June 8th, 2010, 06:26 PM
So what did you think, Linda06?

Linda06
June 10th, 2010, 09:51 AM
So what did you think, Linda06?

Well, I was like http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n153/Linda0606/Smileys/Happy/Happy4.gif then I was like http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n153/Linda0606/Smileys/SadAnxious/Anxious1.gif then I was like http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n153/Linda0606/Smileys/Oh/Oh.gif and then I was like http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-shocked004.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) *gasp* http://www.smilescollection.com/smiles/fool/sc_7202.gif

the fifth man
June 10th, 2010, 06:03 PM
Sounds about right.:)

Krisz
June 10th, 2010, 09:44 PM
Well, I was like http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n153/Linda0606/Smileys/Happy/Happy4.gif then I was like http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n153/Linda0606/Smileys/SadAnxious/Anxious1.gif then I was like http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n153/Linda0606/Smileys/Oh/Oh.gif and then I was like http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-shocked004.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) *gasp* http://www.smilescollection.com/smiles/fool/sc_7202.gif

Well, looks like this season ender has done the job it set out to do then! :)

Linda06
June 11th, 2010, 05:19 AM
Sounds about right.:)


Well, looks like this season ender has done the job it set out to do then! :)

It sure did :D

Oh how oh how are we gonna survive till the new season :eek: Hibernation sounds good ;)

So if Bell didn't take out part of Walter's brain would our Walter have ended up like Walternate? I like our Walter much better :D

Oh how are we gonna get our Olivia back :eek: Can she get back? Will they realise they have the wrong Olivia? Will they be able to go back and get our Olivia somehow? Oh so many questions I feel like my heads gonna explode :eek:

Oh how I love alternate universe eps, but they sure do confuse me sometimes :)

Killdeer
June 11th, 2010, 08:42 AM
I too love alternate universe stuff - I think that may be one of the biggest reasons Fringe has got me hooked. :) I also love the characters though.

I've always been intrigued when tv shows do alternate universes, and I'm definitely enjoying having it a central plotline.

the fifth man
June 11th, 2010, 06:51 PM
It sure did :D

Oh how oh how are we gonna survive till the new season :eek: Hibernation sounds good ;)

So if Bell didn't take out part of Walter's brain would our Walter have ended up like Walternate? I like our Walter much better :D

Oh how are we gonna get our Olivia back :eek: Can she get back? Will they realise they have the wrong Olivia? Will they be able to go back and get our Olivia somehow? Oh so many questions I feel like my heads gonna explode :eek:

Oh how I love alternate universe eps, but they sure do confuse me sometimes :)

Yeah, the wait for Season 3 is going to be a bit torturous.:( We just have to find a way to hang on.

My wife is just getting into this show, so we started with Season 1. With any luck, we will get through both seasons just in time for Season 3 to start.:)

Krisz
June 12th, 2010, 04:50 AM
Alternate universes are my favourite Sci Fi idea after time travel. I suppose it's because they give more things to think about and confuzzle my brain. The 'what if?' question is always fun to play with and gives another angle to explore the 'human condition'.

Stargate SG-1, Fringe and DS9 have given me some of the most entertaining alternate universe stories. What I like about Fringe is that it is a whole show devoted to an alternate universe story. A fantastic tale about the pitfalls of messing with the order of things, however important the reason for doing it in the first place is.

Add great characters like these shows have and you've got some really good TV! :)

I think I'm going to enjoy watching the alternate Olivia, is she really that different from the one we know? Which one will we sympathise with more? This is why Fringe is so riveting to watch, it has characters that we can care about on so many different levels, have our emotions played with; you just know Fringe is going to do this big time..... I can't wait for next season, like you say Linda, so many unanswered questions........I love this show!!!! :D

The Collector
June 18th, 2010, 05:20 AM
I saw the switch and the Bell sacrifice a mile away. But that didn't make it any less enjoyable. Our Olivia probably has some monkey wrenching to do on the other side before she comes back. And I see Peter finding out fairly early and then finding a way to get her to ally. With the way it runs, I'm sure Peter will get her to go see the sister and Ella.

There was a bit of foreshadowing IMO that Walternate was responsible for the majority of holes in the alternate universe's fabric.

It's possible that Bell starts showing up in electronics and weird crap to guide Olivia through the AU. He'd in fact be a fairly helpful Deus Ex Machina (sorry, had to use the joke)

I can't wait for next season!

roachmojo
August 9th, 2010, 07:34 AM
Longtime Gateworlder, first time post just to give Fringe support. Buddy of mine lent me season one a month ago. I had watched most of the series premiere, and I didn't really want to see it (Oh boy another FBI X-files clone blah blah), so over the course of a month he would ask "hey have you started watching yet?" and I would...look up a random episode in wikipedia, get the synopsis, and say "oh yeah, I'm on the episode where they find that kid underground", and so on.

Three weeks later, (oh yeah the shapeshifters are crazy! hehe...) until my wife finally said OK that's enough, you have to watch it, and so I did.

HOLY GOD....I got sucked in my the third episode and had season one finished in a week, downloaded the hidef season 2 and am actually in the middle of the finale this very second.

I love science Fiction, and this is just mind-blowingly good stuff. I just cannot believe how good it is. Shivers me freakin timbers, it does. :D

the fifth man
August 9th, 2010, 06:39 PM
Congrats on your first post, roachmojo. Hopefully, it is the first of many. And, welcome to the wonderful world of Fringe.:)

Missster.Freeman
July 10th, 2011, 05:26 AM
Well that's season two done and dusted. At the end of part two, I was just like, damn!

I reckon season three is going to be the same, but different. :D