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major davis
May 15th, 2010, 03:17 AM
Well I did this thread for air so I may as well do it again. :p

So what did you guys think of the opening scene with scott and James. Did you think it worked well, was it out of place. Was it too graphic? Was it not graphic enough :p. Would you change anything if you could. I'm curious to hear you guys opinion. :)

Lahela
May 15th, 2010, 03:30 AM
I found the music a little jarring, but that's just my taste. As for the visual, I don't have any problem with it - in fact I felt the intensity of it set up what was to follow really well.

major davis
May 15th, 2010, 03:42 AM
That's a good point about the set up. And the scene doesn't bother me as much as tptb claim SGU will be a show that can be viewed by the younglings and the they brag about how eye clawing this scene will be. I think that's just dumb lol

EllieVee
May 15th, 2010, 04:15 AM
I think the eye clawing thing was a joke.

xxxevilgrinxxx
May 15th, 2010, 05:36 AM
I didn't think it was graphic. Suggestive, yes, but not graphic. There was no genitalia flying around, just some back and arms. Tastefully done and served a purpose in the storytelling. I didn;t find the music jarring; it fit the scene and the pair involved. Definitely not eye clawing :) Although I'm sure it will kick up a big old stink, LOL!

major davis
May 15th, 2010, 05:44 AM
I think the eye clawing thing was a joke.

What do you mean by a joke?

I mean this was no where near as bad as the scene from Air part 3 imo. So i dont know what JM was talking about.

illyria
May 15th, 2010, 05:55 AM
I couldn't really say. It was so dark as usual, I had to increase my TV brightness to watch the episode.

Pharaoh Atem
May 15th, 2010, 06:21 AM
foreshadowing my honeymoon

DigiFluid
May 15th, 2010, 06:25 AM
As someone who has ZERO problem with nudity, profanity, or violence in my TV, even I was a bit taken aback at first. Really definitely not what I expected to see in an episode of Stargate. I don't mean that in a bad or negative way at all, just that I was a little startled by it.

I also agree with the other sentiment expressed in this thread, that the intensity of it really drummed up the intensity of what came (hurr durr) immediately after.

Ser Scot A Ellison
May 15th, 2010, 06:27 AM
Given how readily James was to accept what Scott was doing I wonder if Scott hasn't been getting a little "something, something" from James from time to time.

Dr Lee
May 15th, 2010, 06:32 AM
seen worse.... (or better depending on how far in the gutter you are :P)

meo3000
May 15th, 2010, 06:36 AM
Another useless love scene that doesnt further the plot. They couldve shown a view of the window and slowly panning til you just see the two laying on their back exhausted.

FYI, if theyre gonna show Brian J Smith topless every other episode, then i request they do the same with the girls, pick one, i dont care.

Major_Griff
May 15th, 2010, 06:45 AM
I thought it wasn't graphic enough, lolz. But when you think about how weird this is since James was hallucinating, that means she was all naked rolling around on the bed by her self.

Egle01
May 15th, 2010, 06:49 AM
Tastefully done and served a purpose in the storytelling. I didn;t find the music jarring; it fit the scene and the pair involved. I agree. :)


What do you mean by a joke?

I mean this was no where near as bad as the scene from Air part 3 imo. So i dont know what JM was talking about.He said that people who were offended by the broom closet scene, will be clawing their eyes out because of what they had in store for 1.5. He was talking about "Pain".

xxxevilgrinxxx
May 15th, 2010, 06:51 AM
foreshadowing my honeymoonwithout the skull splitting headache, I hope!


I thought it wasn't graphic enough, lolz. But when you think about how weird this is since James was hallucinating, that means she was all naked rolling around on the bed by her self.
now there's an image :)

Major_Griff
May 15th, 2010, 06:54 AM
now there's an image :)

Indeed!

Coronach
May 15th, 2010, 07:02 AM
Well, I took a nap before SGU and woke up 5 minutes into "Pain", meaning I only saw up to the point where Scott was lying on the ground and James was crying in her bed. So I never did see the scene, but if it was anything like "Air" then I'd imagine I'd find nothing wrong with it in particular.

YoshiKart64
May 15th, 2010, 07:05 AM
I'm definitely in the camp that thought it was important to show the intensity to appreciate what came after.

Also I'm in the camp that thanks sex happens in real life, the show is trying to portray real people, therefore it doesn't feel out of place.

major davis
May 15th, 2010, 07:24 AM
I agree. :)

He said that people who were offended by the broom closet scene, will be clawing their eyes out because of what they had in store for 1.5. He was talking about "Pain".

Still I found it much less graphic and "offending" than the scene in air. Does anyone feel the same?

KEK
May 15th, 2010, 07:26 AM
I didn't think either of them were graphic, they really can't do graphic sex scenes on Syfy, and I certainly don't see anything offensive about them either.

JustAnotherVoice
May 15th, 2010, 07:27 AM
I'm just disappointed it all turned out to be a hallucenation. It would have been nice for James to get some closure on the relationship, one way or another.

Egle01
May 15th, 2010, 07:29 AM
Still I found it much less graphic and "offending" than the scene in air. Does anyone feel the same?The sex scenes haven't bothered me at all, so can't say whether it's less offending or not.

s09119
May 15th, 2010, 07:41 AM
Another useless love scene that doesnt further the plot. They couldve shown a view of the window and slowly panning til you just see the two laying on their back exhausted.

FYI, if theyre gonna show Brian J Smith topless every other episode, then i request they do the same with the girls, pick one, i dont care.

I would have liked a less IN YOUR FACE scene, but I didn't find anything wrong with the one we got. It made the end result that much more of a "WHOA!" moment.

lordofseas
May 15th, 2010, 07:45 AM
It fit with the plot, but seeing as some other people were in the room....

Jeffala
May 15th, 2010, 08:46 AM
Must have been cold in that room...

ZGoten
May 15th, 2010, 09:20 AM
That was certainly one hell of a hallucination.

Save Chloe
May 15th, 2010, 10:35 AM
My wife doesn't watch SGU at all, and when the open scene began, she walked into the room and said "WTF are you watching!". I told her I thought I was watching Stargate:Universe. By the way, I think the scene was tastefully done, and it was a nice setup to the story.

Astrofighter
May 15th, 2010, 11:14 AM
One knows how the scene would have gone if Stargate was still on showtime!

wargrafix
May 15th, 2010, 11:35 AM
Annnnd Lt james (can't say her OTHER name) wants to be respected in the morning. Fat chance of that happening. She is whiny and annoying.

gotthammer
May 15th, 2010, 12:09 PM
I thought it was ok.

But is it weird that I couldn't help myself from laughing when Scott hit the ground and blood came out? :D

s09119
May 15th, 2010, 12:35 PM
I thought it was ok.

But is it weird that I couldn't help myself from laughing when Scott hit the ground and blood came out? :D

Nah, I was laughing the entire time. I knew it was a hallucination the second I saw that it was James in the bed and not Chloe.

The Shrike
May 15th, 2010, 01:09 PM
foreshadowing my honeymoonAmy or River?

lordofseas
May 15th, 2010, 01:13 PM
Annnnd Lt james (can't say her OTHER name) wants to be respected in the morning. Fat chance of that happening. She is whiny and annoying.

The Cally of SGU?

mere earthling
May 15th, 2010, 01:15 PM
As usual, I was sleep deprived and slow and it took me until she hit him in the head to figure out what was going on, but I thought it was well done and pertained to the overall plot. I didn't find it offensive at all.

flobo
May 15th, 2010, 01:18 PM
It didn't bother me, just made me think that TPTB are strange cutting the nudity out of the 10 years old SG1 pilot and allowing it in universe.

Orion Antreas
May 15th, 2010, 01:19 PM
As soon as the scene started, I said to myself, "Oh boy. Some people are gonna go nuts about this." Honestly, it didn't bother me. That stuff I used to cringe or have a problem to see, but now I am much more comfortable with it. What was really good was that it actually served a purpose and led to something. I have no problem with that. If TPTB just starts throwing intimate scenes in that have no purpose other than just to have it and hope to attract young viewers, that I would have a problem with.

But I thought the scene worked and even though I felt it was a hallucination, I thought the scene was real for awhile. I avoided all spoilers, so it was interesting how I saw this opening scene.

KEK
May 15th, 2010, 01:45 PM
Nah, I was laughing the entire time. I knew it was a hallucination the second I saw that it was James in the bed and not Chloe.

It's a shame. Scott would be a lot more interesting if he really were that much of a womaniser.

The Mighty 6 platoon
May 15th, 2010, 01:46 PM
It didn't bother me, just made me think that TPTB are strange cutting the nudity out of the 10 years old SG1 pilot and allowing it in universe.

You know, maybe it’s my strange liberal uk brain, but theirs rather a, lot of difference between this scene and the one in COTG. They were having sex yes, but there was no actual nudity. In COTG literally nothing was left to the imagination, to the point where they wouldn’t be able to broadcast it on syfy. Hell even most HBO shows would have thought the scene from COTG was a little extreme. And it’s not like tptb cut out the scene from COTG, they literally edited it down to kinda the level of the Pain sex scene, you still saw Sha’re stripped and essentially sexually assaulted before being taken over by the Goa’uld, just without the full frontal nudity.

KEK
May 15th, 2010, 02:01 PM
You know, maybe it’s my strange liberal uk brain, but theirs rather a, lot of difference between this scene and the one in COTG. They were having sex yes, but there was no actual nudity. In COTG literally nothing was left to the imagination, to the point where they wouldn’t be able to broadcast it on syfy. Hell even most HBO shows would have thought the scene from COTG was a little extreme. And it’s not like tptb cut out the scene from COTG, they literally edited it down to kinda the level of the Pain sex scene, you still saw Sha’re stripped and essentially sexually assaulted before being taken over by the Goa’uld, just without the full frontal nudity.

I doubt that very much. I'd say the COTG scene is actually tamer than the Pain one, which is a sex scene, whereas the one in COTG is just nudity. I'm betting that Sky One will edit Pain, but I'm pretty sure on the first airing at least the scene in COTG was left in on Channel 4, as technically it doesn't breach the watershed rules.

xxxevilgrinxxx
May 15th, 2010, 02:06 PM
It didn't bother me, just made me think that TPTB are strange cutting the nudity out of the 10 years old SG1 pilot and allowing it in universe.
In CoTG, wasn't it full frontal? I don't really have a problem with that either but in 'Pain', all there was was some back and arms, nothing graphic, and not even as much as you'd see at your average day at the beach.


As soon as the scene started, I said to myself, "Oh boy. Some people are gonna go nuts about this." Honestly, it didn't bother me. That stuff I used to cringe or have a problem to see, but now I am much more comfortable with it. What was really good was that it actually served a purpose and led to something. I have no problem with that. If TPTB just starts throwing intimate scenes in that have no purpose other than just to have it and hope to attract young viewers, that I would have a problem with.

But I thought the scene worked and even though I felt it was a hallucination, I thought the scene was real for awhile. I avoided all spoilers, so it was interesting how I saw this opening scene.Is it evil that I took a sort of perverse sort of glee in that? The scene itself was quite lovely but what really made me smile is thinking that some people were going to just go ballistic. Yes, I am evil but it's good to know I have company :)

Coronach
May 15th, 2010, 02:09 PM
Dang...I apparently need to see this "Pain" scene now. I missed the beginning of the episode, but is it really any different than the one in "Air"? Maybe a bit more lengthy? :S

KEK
May 15th, 2010, 02:22 PM
It's a little bit more [can't think of a word], but not much. And yeah, quite a bit longer.

xxxevilgrinxxx
May 15th, 2010, 02:23 PM
It's a little bit more [can't think of a word], but not much. And yeah, quite a bit longer.

'primal' works for me :p

flobo
May 15th, 2010, 02:24 PM
I thought people had problems with the sex part of it, not the nudity.

I have a hard time understanding it now that you say it's more about nudity. Nudity is everywhere today, it really does not seem like a big deal to me.

The Mighty 6 platoon
May 15th, 2010, 02:43 PM
I doubt that very much. I'd say the COTG scene is actually tamer than the Pain one, which is a sex scene, whereas the one in COTG is just nudity. I'm betting that Sky One will edit Pain, but I'm pretty sure on the first airing at least the scene in COTG was left in on Channel 4, as technically it doesn't breach the watershed rules.

I can’t remember the last HBO I saw with full frontal nudity, followed by sexual assault, followed by a face full of alien. You get rape sometimes on HBO shows, they definitely aren’t afraid to go near that topic, and HBO shows aren’t afraid of nudity, but even so the COTG scene is very strong, as strong as stuff on Deadwood, which pretty much takes the prize for the most profane, violent and explicit show of all time.

As for SKY one editing Pain, I’m sure they will, but only because for some strange reason they show SGU before 9PM and it’s before the watershed. The 9PM reruns on SKY 2 are always uncut. I doubt channel 4 showed Sha’re getting stripped either, since they used to air sg1 at 4pm in the afternoon, which led to some ridiculous cuts, such as the infamous time they removed around 10 to 15 minutes of evolution part 2 (and then reedited the episode back together in the wrong order).

The BBFC downgraded COTG the final cut to a 15 for moderate and sexualised violence, injury detail and horror
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/FC9A15C09013F9DA802575D6003697A3?OpenDocument
and rated the original episode an 18 for strong sexual violence.
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/066BE377182D781E802568C500467A52?OpenDocument
I highly doubt that Pain will get a 18 rating for what amounted to a non explicit sex scene.

The Swarm
May 16th, 2010, 07:03 AM
That was one of the most lustful sex scenes i ever saw on TV...Lt. Hoot---James outdid herself. :P

And people still wonder why she isnt over him yet!

Confessor Rahl
May 16th, 2010, 07:09 AM
I thought it was actually much more explicit (I use the term relatively, as neither scene was particularly so) than Air. Like, by a huge margin. I was actually taken aback a bit, and thought it was completely unnecessary. This is coming from someone who is a staunch defender of the Air scene.

The Swarm
May 16th, 2010, 07:59 AM
I loved it becouse it was verry energetic aand it build up nicely to the killing scene!
Also i loved the music !

Phenom
May 16th, 2010, 08:43 AM
I thought I had accidentally been re-directed to red tube when the opening scene played on my laptop.

major davis
May 16th, 2010, 12:02 PM
I thought I had accidentally been re-directed to red tube when the opening scene played on my laptop.

HAHA.!!! :p

So im not the only one who thought it was a tad over the top. Even an air scene defender agrees with me. :

blueintegraboy
May 16th, 2010, 05:32 PM
I liked it. Reminded me of those scenes in BSG. I actually found a few similarities between SGU and BSG.

Pharaoh Atem
May 16th, 2010, 05:43 PM
Amy or River?

i meant my real life honeymoon.

Brinzy
May 16th, 2010, 07:10 PM
I didn't find it over the top at all. Then again, I do watch Spartacus Blood and Sand, so I don't think there's much of anything they could do that I would consider over the top. But more about the scene I think it shows that what she wants is a more physical thing, not a "love" that he has with Chloe. And yes, beautiful way to build up to the death scene. Also, a good attempt at trying to get us to continue to believe that maybe it wasn't a hallucination with Greer and Eli.

-Bryan
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Phenom
May 16th, 2010, 08:35 PM
HAHA.!!! :p

So im not the only one who thought it was a tad over the top. Even an air scene defender agrees with me. :

yeah dude I love porn and I love Stargate. I just never expected them to join my two great loves.

Kind of like that old ep of the Simpsons where Homer gets out the 'Nuts n Gum....together at last'

The scene in Air was fine by my standards, not really much to see and it was over pretty quick from memory. This one was fairly full on and although there wasn't actuallly any boob or balls on display, it wouldn't have been very appropriate for those under 14ish I woudn't have thought.

SupremeLegate
May 16th, 2010, 09:09 PM
I had no problem with the scene, course I have zero problem with sex or nudity. In my mind it showed the strong emotions that Lt. James has for Scott, and it helped make her hitting him in the head all the more powerful.

I would have liked for it to have been real, so I would have a vailed reason to not like Scott. But no, I saw no problem with the scene.

MattSilver 3k
May 16th, 2010, 09:47 PM
Scene was fine. Thought it was great that Scott was basically fulfilling the role dislikers of his character have given him (man-whore), and the whole scene was very sort-of... primal. Sex followed by man beating up on woman followed by woman killing man. Fun all around.

Jeffala
May 16th, 2010, 09:52 PM
...man beating up on woman followed by woman killing man...

And good for her. That's the way man beating up on woman should be followed. Of course, man defending self and throwing woman to the ground isn't quite the same thing as beating her up but let's not quibble.

MattSilver 3k
May 16th, 2010, 09:54 PM
And good for her. That's the way man beating up on woman should be followed. Of course, man defending self and throwing woman to the ground isn't quite the same thing as beating her up but let's not quibble.

Meh. I'm not much for exact terminology.

magictrick
May 16th, 2010, 10:20 PM
Am I the only one that found it funny that the same producers re-released SG-1's Children of the Gods without the nudity scene, but are continuing to produce SGU with suggestive sex scenes?

Coronach
May 16th, 2010, 10:25 PM
Am I the only one that found it funny that the same producers re-released SG-1's Children of the Gods without the nudity scene, but are continuing to produce SGU with suggestive sex scenes?

Not really, because SGU is a different show and also because suggestive sex scenes are not "as bad" as full frontal nudity, otherwise they wouldn't be allowed to air it (note: that's just how the network sees it, I'm not claiming either way). If I remember correctly, TPTB didn't want the nude scene in CotG because they felt it didn't fit with the show. But SGU and SG1 are pretty tonally and thematically different, so it isn't necessarily the case that they'd follow all of the same guidelines, per say.

Phenom
May 16th, 2010, 11:27 PM
Not really, because SGU is a different show and also because suggestive sex scenes are not "as bad" as full frontal nudity, otherwise they wouldn't be allowed to air it (note: that's just how the network sees it, I'm not claiming either way). If I remember correctly, TPTB didn't want the nude scene in CotG because they felt it didn't fit with the show. But SGU and SG1 are pretty tonally and thematically different, so it isn't necessarily the case that they'd follow all of the same guidelines, per say.

Although I agree with what you have said, an interesting question was posed though wasn't it. It does appear as though TPTB, and I guess Stargate fans alround given how infamous the COTG scene was, really objected to the full frontal nudity of a female in a completely non-sexual situation. It was essentially similar to a medical reality show where they follow women having boob jobs and show them in all their pre and post op glory.

On the other hand a simulated sex scene complete with bells, whistles, moaning and sweat seems to be quite fine if the need arises.

rust
May 17th, 2010, 12:20 AM
I thought it was a pretty good opener, since it not only helped frame the seriousness of the hallucinations, but it also showed a little more of the psyche problems that James is going through. (even if I was secretly hoping it was a perma-kill...hehe.)

icsteffi
May 17th, 2010, 12:32 AM
All I can say is that my father and I spent a lot of good bonding hours watching SG-1. I don't like that I wouldn't feel comfortable watching SGU with him! !!

Phenom
May 17th, 2010, 12:59 AM
All I can say is that my father and I spent a lot of good bonding hours watching SG-1. I don't like that I wouldn't feel comfortable watching SGU with him! !!

Kind of like me watching True Blood with my 15yo sister (I am 28)....talk about awkward with a capital AWK!!!!!

An-Alteran
May 17th, 2010, 02:35 AM
It was tasteless, inappropriate, and unnecessary.

The music was also annoying.

All the contemporary music in this episode was irritating.

The only good contemporary music was from the Series final of SG1.

icsteffi
May 17th, 2010, 03:25 AM
I thought it was a pretty good opener, since it not only helped frame the seriousness of the hallucinations, but it also showed a little more of the psyche problems that James is going through. (even if I was secretly hoping it was a perma-kill...hehe.)

Ok, I actually like Lt. Scott, BUT I was thinking that we'd get to see him die in a few different ways. I mean, claustrophobia guy had a number of different 'episodes'. Why couldn't Lt. James? !!!

icsteffi
May 17th, 2010, 03:29 AM
Kind of like me watching True Blood with my 15yo sister (I am 28)....talk about awkward with a capital AWK!!!!!

eeeeek...... kind of like watching True Blood with anyone!!!! hahaha. That is a show I definitely like watching alone. Or with a gay guy friend who is very non-shy about sexuality. haha. When's it coming back anyways? Hopefully soon!

(btw, I'm 26, and have a 15 year old sis who would love it. I just can't be the one to INTRODUCE it to her.... but if she discovered it seperately, maybe I could hang!)

Spimman
May 17th, 2010, 04:52 AM
Jumping in late...

I thought it was less graphic than the scene in air, and it did actually make the following event more believable...that being said those scenes could be cut and I wouldn't shed a single tear.

xxxevilgrinxxx
May 17th, 2010, 05:06 AM
Am I the only one that found it funny that the same producers re-released SG-1's Children of the Gods without the nudity scene, but are continuing to produce SGU with suggestive sex scenes?

-more than a decade has passed
-SGU is rated as a more adult show
-full frontal nudity in CoTG vs suggestive (and quick!) scenes in Pain, with no frontal at all
-context: The set up in CoTG had not only full frontal nudity but it had a woman in a very degraded position, where the idea is not normal sexual relations but degradation verging on a form of rape. In Pain, the context is that these two have been in a sexual relationship in the past and it's her fear that he's just shrugging her off. It's not a great situation but it's far from degradation and it's clearly not akin to a rape.

Aside from the general idea of skin being shown at all, I don't see that the two scenes have all that much in common.

Ser Scot A Ellison
May 17th, 2010, 06:46 AM
An-Alteran,


It was tasteless, inappropriate, and unnecessary.

The music was also annoying.

All the contemporary music in this episode was irritating.

The only good contemporary music was from the Series final of SG1.

Don't be shy. Please tell us what you really think. I have no problem with the scene. I do think it show's James is a tad (okay maybe more than a tad) obsessed with Scott. She's going to snap. It will be bad.

I rewatched the extended version of Air on Sunday. I'd missed the scene in Air pt. 3 where James snaps at Young for checking on Chloe but not asking about her. That was before anything happened between Chloe and Scott. I reiterate, James is going to a very bad place.

prion
May 17th, 2010, 08:28 AM
well, when it first appeared I thought "why are the sex scenes always in the beginning of the episode" (well, for most part). And whoa, is that more of Scott than we've seen before? When James clocked him and the blood began to pool, it was obvious it wasn't real, especially if he's lying there with eyes open, sort of a clue to death. The song? Did not care for it at all. Song at end fit, but song at beginning was just not to my taste.

Jeffala
May 17th, 2010, 11:36 AM
Am I the only one that found it funny that the same producers re-released SG-1's Children of the Gods without the nudity scene, but are continuing to produce SGU with suggestive sex scenes?

This scene didn't have anything on Sha're's cooter hanging out, in my opinion.

dgh64
May 17th, 2010, 12:40 PM
My first reaction when I saw who Scott was with was "Good, now Chloe's going to find out, and they'll break up." (I personally would much rather see her with Eli than Scott) That was before the part where James "killed" him.

I don't think the scene was overly offensive. I've seen plenty of scenes just like that, where all you see are their backs and arms, in other shows and this one just seemed like yet another people-sleeping-together.

I'm not going to comment on CotG, because I didn't see the "original" version, only the edited one.

major davis
May 17th, 2010, 02:48 PM
well, when it first appeared I thought "why are the sex scenes always in the beginning of the episode" (well, for most part). And whoa, is that more of Scott than we've seen before? When James clocked him and the blood began to pool, it was obvious it wasn't real, especially if he's lying there with eyes open, sort of a clue to death. The song? Did not care for it at all. Song at end fit, but song at beginning was just not to my taste.

Ya I was afraid people at the beginning wouldn't come back after the teaser but most of the viewers are adults who probably won't care about it(or at least will tolerate it and not turn of TV shows at the sight of a semi-graphic sex scene) so it probably wasn't to big of a ratings killer if any.

Eternal Density
May 17th, 2010, 04:59 PM
What do you mean by a joke? Hyperbole, dramatic overstatement.
[edit]But on the topic, the scene wasn't really what I want to see on TV. I think they could have cut it down and still achieved the same plot point.

Hmm, I could bring up the age old question of which part of the scene do people worry about protecting their kids from? The lusty part or the 'dead in a pool of blood' part? :P

SupremeLegate
May 17th, 2010, 05:40 PM
especially if he's lying there with eyes open, sort of a clue to death.

Sorry to go off topic but:

How is that a clue that the death was fake? It is actualy more realistic for his eyes to remain open, since when a person dies all their muscles relax.

ancientaction
May 19th, 2010, 01:08 AM
Honestly, When I hit play on my DVR, and saw that. I was a bit distrubed. Sex right off the bat on a scifi show. I would expect that if ShowTime still had the show, but not SyFy.

was it too graphic, I don't think so, they didn't show much, they showed just enough for an adult audience to know what was going on.

YoshiKart64
May 19th, 2010, 01:54 PM
The thing is, the scene really isn't out of place in a show like this. People just seemed shocked since you'd never see stuff like that in SG1 or SGA.

Kayzersoze
May 19th, 2010, 08:40 PM
This scene didn't have anything on Sha're's cooter hanging out, in my opinion.
'cooter' ... haven't heard that one before. Coochie, yes. But cooter is new to me.

I am surprised there's even a thread discussing this scene and it's appropriateness, given you really see nothing at all other than a dude with his shirt off. They show all the other day-to-day things that go on aboard the ship - people making stills, people deciding whether to shave, people exercising, people longing after cute girls that are never going to be into them unless they lose a shedload of weight, buff-up, get a tattoo and kill a few people. So why not show people mid-coitus?

About the only thing wrong with the scene was the fact you didn't see more. Of James. Or that James didn't get a few shots in on Scott - maybe a knee to the huevos or something first. But yeah ... mostly that she didn't get the cans out.

Jeffala
May 19th, 2010, 08:57 PM
'cooter' ... haven't heard that one before

A few of my female friends use it. That and "growler". That one's generally used in a derogatory manner but it's too funny not to integrate into usual usage.

Kayzersoze
May 19th, 2010, 09:05 PM
A few of my female friends use it. That and "growler". That one's generally used in a derogatory manner but it's too funny not to integrate into usual usage.
Both are gold, and I want to be friends with your female friends - just for the colourful conversation that would ensue.

Eternal Density
May 20th, 2010, 05:45 PM
But yeah ... mostly that she didn't get the cans out.Funny that in many 'normal' scenes the camera seems to give them a lot of attention but in a scene where they were more 'relevant' they were avoided. Given that the earlier part of the scene (before things turned bad) was James getting what she wanted, then perhaps she doesn't like guys mauling her chest?
Or perhaps I'm just making things up because I wasn't paying that close attention to the scene and don't remember in detail what was actually going on beyond a lot of grunting.

EllieVee
May 21st, 2010, 02:02 AM
What do you mean by a joke?



I mean, JM was joking.

Coronach
May 22nd, 2010, 12:36 PM
Haha. So I caught this scene on Hulu recently, and I can definitely say (as I suspected) I really didn't have a problem with it. All I could make out was a bunch of Lt. Scott's back shots, and some very clear sex sounds. Honestly though, it was pretty tame all things considered. ;)

Zkyire
May 23rd, 2010, 11:23 AM
It was tasteless, inappropriate, and unnecessary.

The music was also annoying.

All the contemporary music in this episode was irritating.

The only good contemporary music was from the Series final of SG1.

Inappropriate for who?

TPTB have stated that this show isn't kid-friendly.

So knowing that it's not aimed at children, how is it still inappropriate?

Additionally, in a show where people are assaulted, tortured and killed (which is all accepted) but showing some human skin is inappropriate?

The Swarm
September 13th, 2010, 06:02 AM
Secks= Goodz 4 you!

Honestly, why is everyone so offended by sex?