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pipi
May 14th, 2010, 10:18 PM
Anyone thinks it's a good idea to preserve the ticks as live specimens instead of just squishing them?

Properly contained and administered, they could prove to be a recreational drug for certain people. Ofcause there are unknowns side effects but what drug doesn't have those.

Pharaoh Atem
May 14th, 2010, 10:24 PM
the last thing you need is a crew members screaming or being paranoid in a crisis. the smurfs are coming

AquaGamer53
May 14th, 2010, 10:26 PM
There would probably be too many concerns over them getting loose and all that. I mean, what if they grow into flesh eating monsters

like in the Time episode?

I wonder though, if they kept the squashed bug goo. That would have had to have some of the substance that was causing the hallucinations.

Gollumpus
May 14th, 2010, 10:27 PM
And all you would need is those things getting loose on the ship and you'd have a never ending supply of them. Not a good thing.

regards,
G.

RJLCyberPunk
May 14th, 2010, 10:28 PM
the last thing you need is a crew members screaming or being paranoid in a crisis. the smurfs are coming

Agreed! They do not need no stinking ticks...

Gollumpus
May 14th, 2010, 10:29 PM
Besides, you can't even tock to them...

regards,
G.

Pharaoh Atem
May 14th, 2010, 10:30 PM
And all you would need is those things getting loose on the ship and you'd have a never ending supply of them. Not a good thing.

regards,
G.
and we don't need a communication stone ep with greer being in a tick.

Avenger
May 14th, 2010, 10:32 PM
There is no telling what the long term affect of having those bugs attached to someone would be and it certainly wouldn't be worth the risk to try to find out.

Save Chloe
May 14th, 2010, 10:52 PM
They should've saved a tick for Chloe so that she could talk to her dad when she's feeling down.

shadowball2021
May 14th, 2010, 11:02 PM
There is no telling what the long term affect of having those bugs attached to someone would be and it certainly wouldn't be worth the risk to try to find out.

Exactly, Eli made that same point to Chloe when she was seeing her dad; I doubt whatever the effect would end very well.

Gollumpus
May 14th, 2010, 11:21 PM
and we don't need a communication stone ep with greer being in a tick.

That would be one badass tick, however I'm not sure how they'd handle Greer's body wanting to glom on to the back of the neck of anyone who came within reach.

On a really weird note, what if tick-Greer managed to get on to Greer-tick? Would he become normal?

regards,
G.

EllieVee
May 14th, 2010, 11:27 PM
If the ticks bred they could use them to 'up tick' the ratings.

Gollumpus
May 14th, 2010, 11:57 PM
If the ticks bred they could use them to 'up tick' the ratings.

Or, if things got boring the crew could have a rousing game of "Pick up Ticks".

regards,
G.

thekillman
May 15th, 2010, 12:45 AM
the venom is an interesting interrogation method

Lahela
May 15th, 2010, 02:28 AM
Who knows what it could be used for - it might work as the universe's most effective antiseptic. Just like the squiddies in Time - who would have thought their venom would make a good anaesthetic until Scott survived his attack? You never know until you test, so I would vote for keeping at least some alive for research purposes.

jelgate
May 15th, 2010, 08:23 AM
It could be used for interrogation purposes. Do what I say or I'll inject this venom into you that makes you hallucinate your worst pain

Major_Griff
May 15th, 2010, 08:25 AM
It could be used for interrogation purposes. Do what I say or I'll inject this venom into you that makes you hallucinate your worst pain

Jeez, I hope I never have any information that you need, lolz.

xxxevilgrinxxx
May 15th, 2010, 08:39 AM
Jeez, I hope I never have any information that you need, lolz.

*snorks* Then again, if they ever need any info out of anyone, they could just stand rush in the corner with a handy screwdriver and a length of pipe :) Those ticks would seem like the kinder option

rlr149
May 15th, 2010, 08:56 AM
create a 'remote tranquiliser' for greer's equipment(he need not know about it)

wait for enemy ship to turn up, place tick back on greers neck, transport/board alien ship, whisper too him that 'everyones out to get him' as you lock him on the enemy ship alone, chill out for 20 mins, remote tranq greer, board enemy vessel in total safety.:cool:

escyos
May 15th, 2010, 02:28 PM
Anyone thinks it's a good idea to preserve the ticks as live specimens instead of just squishing them?

Properly contained and administered, they could prove to be a recreational drug for certain people. Ofcause there are unknowns side effects but what drug doesn't have those.

yeah, the military is going to allow them to use drugs recreationally....that would sure make them cool...not

thekillman
May 15th, 2010, 02:32 PM
would be interesting as a bioweapon against aliens. bring some gas and the aliens trip out and go kill eachoter

xxxevilgrinxxx
May 15th, 2010, 02:34 PM
yeah, the military is going to allow them to use drugs recreationally....that would sure make them cool...not

yeah, Brody's still is already right on the edge as it is (as cool as it is) so I don;t see them fond of a recreational drug with those kinds of loopy side effects

Major_Griff
May 15th, 2010, 05:36 PM
yeah, Brody's still is already right on the edge as it is (as cool as it is) so I don;t see them fond of a recreational drug with those kinds of loopy side effects

Funny how some recreational drugs are accepted by society and some (even less dangerous ones) aren't.

major davis
May 15th, 2010, 05:39 PM
Anyone thinks it's a good idea to preserve the ticks as live specimens instead of just squishing them?

Properly contained and administered, they could prove to be a recreational drug for certain people. Ofcause there are unknowns side effects but what drug doesn't have those.

Not really I dont think they should keep them.

Funny side note, I found a tick on myself today. I was wondering every now and then if I was gonna hilucinate something. :p

xxxevilgrinxxx
May 15th, 2010, 07:35 PM
Funny how some recreational drugs are accepted by society and some (even less dangerous ones) aren't.

I should clarify that I don't personally have a problem with whatever they do, but that on a good deal of military installations, booze is a no-go, so I can only imagine that recreational toxic ticks have got to be on that list of things to not have around.

escyos
May 15th, 2010, 08:39 PM
Funny how some recreational drugs are accepted by society and some (even less dangerous ones) aren't.

thats not funny, drugs arent funny

pipi
May 16th, 2010, 01:37 AM
Funny how some recreational drugs are accepted by society and some (even less dangerous ones) aren't.

Amsterdam! :)

All drugs should be legalised and taxed. It's the only way to control it. There will always be a black market just like prostitution. Just admit that the problem won't go away and live with it. Getting high on drugs is no different from getting drunk. Drunks are allowed to kill people behind the wheel, start fights that end up with cracked skulls on pavements, exacerbates violence against women, and provide opportunists for rape and robbery. At least if you OD, you only kill yourself, good riddence.

thekillman
May 16th, 2010, 05:01 AM
i disagree. SOFT drugs should be legalized, taxed and controlled. and if people know the danger, then they will be more responsible.


also, 99% of the deaths that happen due to combined drug and alcohol use are foreigners who aren't allowed any of it at home. drug deaths rarely happen, it's mostly drugs and alcohol combined by foreigners who want to do crazy and pay for it with their lives because they think they can fly.

jelgate
May 16th, 2010, 07:51 AM
Amsterdam! :)

All drugs should be legalised and taxed. It's the only way to control it. There will always be a black market just like prostitution. Just admit that the problem won't go away and live with it. Getting high on drugs is no different from getting drunk. Drunks are allowed to kill people behind the wheel, start fights that end up with cracked skulls on pavements, exacerbates violence against women, and provide opportunists for rape and robbery. At least if you OD, you only kill yourself, good riddence.Legalizing all drugs would only amplify only the problem. Lets remember in its definition alcohol is also considered a drug. But you start legalizing them all then you have way people's perceptions distorted and they can cause pain to others around you just like alcohol. Just because you have taken a drug doesn't mean you're safe from harming others. Never mind how some can kill you

Otarush
May 16th, 2010, 12:06 PM
I'm surprised nobody was all "I have a tick on me, get it off, GET IT OFF!" like I would. Mild insectophobia here lol. I think that aspect would probably dampen the recreational drug aspect for some people- plus these seem guaranteed to provide a bad trip full of blue aliens/dead people/unpleasant memories. Squish the ticks, they're creepy!

Shai Hulud
May 16th, 2010, 12:51 PM
yeah, Brody's still is already right on the edge as it is (as cool as it is) so I dont see them fond of a recreational drug with those kinds of loopy side effects

Isnt that what alcohol is anyways, a recreational drug with loopy side effects?

escyos
May 16th, 2010, 03:17 PM
Amsterdam! :)

All drugs should be legalised and taxed. It's the only way to control it. There will always be a black market just like prostitution. Just admit that the problem won't go away and live with it. Getting high on drugs is no different from getting drunk. Drunks are allowed to kill people behind the wheel, start fights that end up with cracked skulls on pavements, exacerbates violence against women, and provide opportunists for rape and robbery. At least if you OD, you only kill yourself, good riddence.

true, but some drugs that are smoked would affect those around them too, and drugs tend to distort ones perception more easily anad as such they woulc cause more damage

Kermee
May 16th, 2010, 03:32 PM
Maybe one of the female ticks laid her eggs somewhere on the ship!:eek:

hiro
May 16th, 2010, 03:36 PM
the last thing you need is a crew members screaming or being paranoid in a crisis. the smurfs are coming

agreed they need to be ready!


They should've saved a tick for Chloe so that she could talk to her dad when she's feeling down.

we don't know the side effects of that
i remember a very different case in stargate sg1 in the episode called :morpheus where a little bug implanted on her brain started feeding itself. he became bigger and make people die . When i was watching this ep i thought maybe this bug feeds with pain and killing the crew too

pipi
May 16th, 2010, 04:50 PM
Legalizing all drugs would only amplify only the problem.

This debate can go on forever, there will always be opinions for or against it. My personal opinion is that legalising these substances will downgrade the 'coolness' of it for young people and by taxing it, it will reduce the number of new addicts once you start charging money.

A classic example of why taxing and legalisation works is tabacco. Although it doesn't cause a person to do stupid things, there are many similarities that applies to all drugs. Kids smoke to be cool and that's when they get addicted. But if everyone smokes around you, it gets uncool and annoying to the stage where smoking is banned in buildings and there is public anger on the issue. You buy smokes from a legitimate store not from some dodgy guy in the carpark, why? There are no drug gang wars for tabacco and people don't kill or rob you because they are short of money for their fix. They just budget their weekly pay for their smokes into their groceries or whatever. Since you see smokers in public places and it's still socially acceptable, it is easier to admit you have a problem and seek help. In some countries taxes for tabacco also gets funnelled into health care and rehab.

Anyway the benefits outweights the negative. Shunning the issue by making it illegal only makes people want it more. Where there is demand there will always be supply.

rlr149
May 16th, 2010, 05:05 PM
true, but some drugs that are smoked would affect those around them too, and drugs tend to distort ones perception more easily anad as such they woulc cause more damage

unless you're 'depressed' or have ADHD, in which case, have some perception altering 'drugs'!! with any luck you'll cause less damage!!

gotta love the irony of 'drugs';)

jelgate
May 16th, 2010, 08:25 PM
This debate can go on forever, there will always be opinions for or against it. My personal opinion is that legalising these substances will downgrade the 'coolness' of it for young people and by taxing it, it will reduce the number of new addicts once you start charging money.

A classic example of why taxing and legalisation works is tabacco. Although it doesn't cause a person to do stupid things, there are many similarities that applies to all drugs. Kids smoke to be cool and that's when they get addicted. But if everyone smokes around you, it gets uncool and annoying to the stage where smoking is banned in buildings and there is public anger on the issue. You buy smokes from a legitimate store not from some dodgy guy in the carpark, why? There are no drug gang wars for tabacco and people don't kill or rob you because they are short of money for their fix. They just budget their weekly pay for their smokes into their groceries or whatever. Since you see smokers in public places and it's still socially acceptable, it is easier to admit you have a problem and seek help. In some countries taxes for tabacco also gets funnelled into health care and rehab.

Anyway the benefits outweights the negative. Shunning the issue by making it illegal only makes people want it more. Where there is demand there will always be supply.

Thats just not true. Look at the Netherlands where a great amount of drugs are legal and their mobs problems. Crime and the relation of drugs will always exist if they are legal or not because thier are always people who will want who can't have it. Never mind the violence drugs cause. Alcohl causes problems with so many people and more then a few of alcohol incidents/fatalities are caused by people over the legal age

tricky
May 16th, 2010, 09:27 PM
I was worried the ticks HAD reproduced. I don't know which mission they were talking about; last week they left the galaxy, right? If Scott and Greer had a tick, then shouldn't everyone who went to the planet have one too? I actually thought that maybe TJ had one on her, and she was hallucinating where they were, or how to cure them. (heck, maybe the rest of the show is just people hallucinating...)

Of course, All I thought was "great, now they're going to have Space Lyme disease"! (oh, and how was a Space Tick in the Smurf galaxy able to feed on Milky Way humans?)

pipi
May 16th, 2010, 11:27 PM
Thats just not true.
You'll have to be more specific.

Look at the Netherlands where a great amount of drugs are legal and their mobs problems. Crime and the relation of drugs will always exist if they are legal or not because thier are always people who will want who can't have it.
I have no knowledge of Netherland's internal affairs so no comment in that context. You'd have to be pretty gutsy to assert that the mob's primary activities are directly related to trafficing legalised drugs as a way to avoid paying taxes, otherwise it's a completely separate issue. Every nation has an underworld, some are more active than others. A better example would be obviously Mexican drug cartels whos primary business is production and distribution of cocaine. If cocaine in the States is legalised then consumers over time would prefer to purchase over the counter from a legitimate business and pay their respective taxes. Which in turn would deprive the cartels of vital revenue and discourage them from violence and other illegal activities relating to cocaine because it's not profitable any more. That is not to say they can't still operate illegally in other matters. One thing at a time. If the government gets their taxes, there'll be more money spent on awareness and rehabilitation campaigns just like for alcoholics. The government would save money on a massive police force to fight the drug cartels. It'll be a better society to have less people sneeking around buying something illegal, and gangs won't be so wealthy from drug proceeds to afford weapons and turf wars. Some people can be abolute minded, I'd like to point out that none of the previous activities would be stamped out completely nor will it happen overnight. The issue is to reduce problems associated with illegal drugs to create a better society not fix everything that is bad in this world.


Never mind the violence drugs cause. Alcohl causes problems with so many people and more then a few of alcohol incidents/fatalities are caused by people over the legal age
Governements can't stop people from drinking, with the exception of a muslim nation, but they can control how much it cost which acts as a deterrent for beginners and prevents violent gangs roaming the streets selling home made goon. It's about having a more civilised and orderly society and a good reason why you'd get arrested for being an annoying drunk in public.

jelgate
May 17th, 2010, 08:27 AM
Governements can't stop people from drinking, with the exception of a muslim nation, but they can control how much it cost which acts as a deterrent for beginners and prevents violent gangs roaming the streets selling home made goon. It's about having a more civilised and orderly society and a good reason why you'd get arrested for being an annoying drunk in public.

I highly doubt that. The most destructive of people will go to great lengths to get thier drugs. Look at smoking. The high taxes haven't actually stopped people from purchasing. Some maybe but many still buy. You have the same problem with making others highly priced people will still use vast resources to pay for them and still cause the damange that comes with too much drug intake

prion
May 17th, 2010, 09:26 AM
Anyone thinks it's a good idea to preserve the ticks as live specimens instead of just squishing them?

Properly contained and administered, they could prove to be a recreational drug for certain people. Ofcause there are unknowns side effects but what drug doesn't have those.

No, the ticks should have been saved just to study the 'supposed' toxin they secreted. It takes quite a while to do a tox screening (despite what CSI promotes) so squashing them. Stupid idea. And honestly, anybody who's squashed a tick realizes they leave a bigger smear than that ;) They should have stuck the ticks in a jar of alcohol for future study. Even the vets do that when pulling ticks off your dog.

pipi
May 17th, 2010, 11:50 PM
I highly doubt that. The most destructive of people will go to great lengths to get thier drugs. Look at smoking. The high taxes haven't actually stopped people from purchasing. Some maybe but many still buy. You have the same problem with making others highly priced people will still use vast resources to pay for them and still cause the damange that comes with too much drug intake

The core benefit is not to stop people from using, it's to reduce criminal elements associated with black market trade. There will be less crime and more money to fund awareness and rehabilitation programs.

jelgate
May 18th, 2010, 06:20 AM
The core benefit is not to stop people from using, it's to reduce criminal elements associated with black market trade. There will be less crime and more money to fund awareness and rehabilitation programs.

I just don't see that happens. It doesn't work with our legal drugs already in existence