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droid327
April 26th, 2010, 02:36 AM
One of his students in Human was wearing a Cal sweater...of course plenty of students at any given school wear other school's merchandise, but Berkeley would be an appropriate institution for someone of Rush's stature...plus his wife didnt sound Scottish either, though she was talking rather hushed and deliberately in most of her sceneds.

JustAnotherVoice
April 26th, 2010, 03:04 AM
Rush's wife was English, I would imagine. Why else would he torture himself by listening to English Rose by The Jam?

EllieVee
April 26th, 2010, 04:14 AM
Because The Jam are gods.

Lahela
April 26th, 2010, 04:16 AM
Because The Jam are gods.

:indeed:

escyos
April 26th, 2010, 06:10 AM
a better question is: is rush even real?

my theory is tht rush is a figment of everyones imaginations

jelgate
April 26th, 2010, 07:14 AM
I don't think the writers were really aiming at identfying the university just showing that Rush used to teach before joining the Stargate program. I bet he had a lot students failing:P

JustAnotherVoice
April 26th, 2010, 07:26 AM
a better question is: is rush even real?

my theory is tht rush is a figment of everyones imaginations

Wait...so...If Rush isn't real, then the team aren't realy stuck on Destiny, they never cracked the secret of the 9th chevron, Senator Armstrong's funds didn't go to Icarus (golden toilet seats, I'm looking at you), Daniel's interaction with him (and O'Neill's interaction with a stranded Young) never took place. So two of the most important people in the franchise are sharing a hallucenation, and the entire program, dating as far back as the original trip to Abydos, are the mad ramblings of a discredited academic and a suicidal officer?!

My mind. It is blown.

carmencatalina
April 26th, 2010, 10:29 AM
He certainly wasn't there when I was a grad student (I'm sure I would have noticed him, seems like the type to have gotten a bit of a reputation), but then, he was probably back in the UK then, perhaps on a post-doc or at his first job, given the difference in our ages. Pity, it would have been "interesting" to take one of his classes!

I suppose this would be the place for an obligatory "Go Cal!".

latvian_stargatefan
April 26th, 2010, 11:03 AM
One of his students in Human was wearing a Cal sweater...of course plenty of students at any given school wear other school's merchandise, but Berkeley would be an appropriate institution for someone of Rush's stature...
I believe it was Berkeley since the license plate of the car with 46 number on it was California too

dacooker
April 26th, 2010, 11:12 AM
For the record, that was UBC.

carmencatalina
April 26th, 2010, 11:38 AM
Obviously, it was filmed at UBC. But I think we are meant to believe that UBC is standing in for a US university (in much the same way we are meant to believe that British Columbia is standing in for, well, every habitable alien planet anyone in the 3 series ever visited. Are those Douglas firs AGAIN?)

reddevil18
April 26th, 2010, 12:01 PM
No idea, but that albino student of his freaked me out.

Avenger
April 26th, 2010, 02:30 PM
There was a student in each of the lecture hall scenes wearing Cal shirts or sweatshirts. That, plus the California license plate would indicate to me that it was meant to be Cal. Given the timeline, he was there when I was an undergrad there, though I was studying Forestry and Environmental Science.

carmencatalina
April 26th, 2010, 02:34 PM
There was a student in each of the lecture hall scenes wearing Cal shirts or sweatshirts. That, plus the California license plate would indicate to me that it was meant to be Cal. Given the timeline, he was there when I was an undergrad there, though I was studying Forestry and Environmental Science.

Berkeley would be a good place, if the idea was for him to be on the west coast. Otherwise, I would have stuck him in Einstein's old stompin' grounds (Princeton).

Off topic, Avenger, did you take any classes in Mulford? The lab I was in was in Mulford for a while, and I know Mulford was the old Forestry building.

garhkal
April 26th, 2010, 04:19 PM
I could see him getting a temp job there.

Avenger
April 26th, 2010, 09:18 PM
Yep. A lot of my classes were in Mulford.

carmencatalina
April 27th, 2010, 07:19 AM
Yep. A lot of my classes were in Mulford.

I have fond memories (well, and some not-so-fond) of Mulford. Ok, enough with the trip down memory lane - back to your regularly scheduled SGU discussion.

janus4ever
April 27th, 2010, 12:53 PM
and what major ? my guess is cryptography. but this does not explain his in-depth knowledge of physics especially with a poor memory...

carmencatalina
April 27th, 2010, 01:00 PM
This is a problem that I run into for all of the SG shows (and, indeed, many TV shows and movies) - the scientific experts would have to actually hold multiple PhDs in order to be experts in all of the things they show them doing!

Rush seems to be an expert in physics (calculating energy requirements for dailing the 9th chevron - seems like an applied physics problem to me), mathematics, and yes, cryptography. He is also apparently quite the computer programmer (catch his little throwaway line at the end of "Human" about writing a program to "go through the permutations").

And if he is really writing a program that somehow is translating genome information into numerical incryptions, he apparently knows something about bioinformatics.

So how many PhDs does he actually have?

(Same is true of Carter, McKay, etc. - their knowledge spanned several fields of study.)

s09119
April 27th, 2010, 01:05 PM
Well Rush (along with half the scientists in the Stargate Program) are without a doubt polymaths, so how about we leave it at that and not try to figure out what each of their million doctorates are. I think we'd all be dead before we covered all the topics they seem to specialize in.

JustAnotherVoice
April 27th, 2010, 02:59 PM
This is a problem that I run into for all of the SG shows (and, indeed, many TV shows and movies) - the scientific experts would have to actually hold multiple PhDs in order to be experts in all of the things they show them doing!

Rush seems to be an expert in physics (calculating energy requirements for dailing the 9th chevron - seems like an applied physics problem to me), mathematics, and yes, cryptography. He is also apparently quite the computer programmer (catch his little throwaway line at the end of "Human" about writing a program to "go through the permutations").

And if he is really writing a program that somehow is translating genome information into numerical incryptions, he apparently knows something about bioinformatics.

So how many PhDs does he actually have?

(Same is true of Carter, McKay, etc. - their knowledge spanned several fields of study.)

Throw in electrical engineering as well, given his daily tasks of trying to put Destiny back together.

This is something that really annoys me about SG, probably because the franchise is the most prominent case of it. Where do they get the time to study for at least 4 doctorates, become published and respected members of the scientific community, rise to the top of their field(s), and hold down a day job (Rush teaching, Sam's military career or Rodney's whatever he did before being roped into the SGC).

At least Rodney's background in theoretical physics was plausible before they made him into another of the franchise's "masters of everything."

carmencatalina
April 27th, 2010, 03:16 PM
become published and respected members of the scientific community, rise to the top of their field(s), and hold down a day job (Rush teaching,

In the case of Rush, the "day job" is exactly what you expect - university professors are researchers - we all do both. So a top physicist at one of the big research universities (like Berkeley) would teach and do research, train grad students, etc. It is all part of the same job - university professor.

I can't speak to a military career, since I don't have experience with that.

JustAnotherVoice
April 27th, 2010, 05:46 PM
In the case of Rush, the "day job" is exactly what you expect - university professors are researchers - we all do both. So a top physicist at one of the big research universities (like Berkeley) would teach and do research, train grad students, etc. It is all part of the same job - university professor.

I can't speak to a military career, since I don't have experience with that.

I meant he supposedly has multiple fields of speciality, right? Back in uni, all of my professors were published authors too, but each only only published books/articles/misc academia on one very specific subject: the one they have the doctorate in. To remain competitive with as many doctorates as any of the 3 big scientists have would mean devoting more time than humanly possible.

IIRC, my professors only managed two books a year, on top of researching the subject, any university duties (teaching, marking, misc) and any minor articles they may be tasked with. And that's for a very specific subject, like Scandinavian literature between 1300-1500, or whatever his doctorate was in. For someone like Rush who, as you've speculated, has multiple doctorates in things which seem to have only fringe relevance to each other, there doesn't seem to be enough hours in the day to keep on top of all of them.

I realise that he is written to be a plolymath and completely brilliant, but are we really expected to believe that the likes of Rush, Sam, Mckay can compare with the best academics in all of their highly technical doctoral fields, when the best academics devote their entire academic lives to a tiny portion of the knowledge base?

Sam, now she really boggles the mind. We know she flew in Desert Storm (Children of the Gods), and like Rush, probably has multiple doctorates. So, she's probably been actively deployed consistently in her career (first as a pilot then as a SG team member), as well as doing guest lectures at the academy. Where does she find the time of day to keep in fighting shape, research multiple scholastic works (hell, even keeping up with it all), do misc non research military duties and still managed to get through half the men in Colorado Springs?

Maybe I'm just really bad at time managment, but I just don't see how they can keep up with being the best of the best in so many fields without using time dilation devices or some such. Granted, this was averted for Rodney (they mentioned that he stopped publishing after he went to Atlantis, so he'd have time to get to know Lantean tech), but Sam has no excuse!

undeadly
April 28th, 2010, 01:46 AM
Most Physics and Math majors get to do some programming and it isn't too hard to learn it yourself if you are into the whole logical thinking yourself.

Writing a program to try all the permutations is pretty basic stuff if we forget he is using Alien computers. Not much insight needed. Certainly not in the league of writing a virus for Replicators in JavaScript.:sam:

He modified the chair, but maybe they just happened to find the drill settings [Cortex|Cerebellum|Well Done].

Ancient as a Second Language would sound impressive if Eli hadn't learned it from a game.

carmencatalina
April 28th, 2010, 10:01 AM
Writing a program to try all the permutations is pretty basic stuff if we forget he is using Alien computers. Not much insight needed..

I disagree - if we are to believe that the information is somehow encoded in the genome, then there are a million different ways to code. Is it coded by nucleotides, by triplet codons, are all basepairs in the codons equally weighted, or is there allowance for "wobble"? (Thank you Francis Crick for that highly technical term, snerk.)

Are we including only coding regions of the genomes, only introns, introns and exons? How are you handling repeated sequences, orthologous genes, pseudogenes?

There is an entire field devoted to mining information in genomes. Just because you know A-T and G-C doesn't mean that's all the information you need to get the information out of DNA.

carmencatalina
April 28th, 2010, 12:58 PM
Hmm, posting glitch. Apologies.

DigiFluid
April 28th, 2010, 01:07 PM
Did Rush teach at Berkeley?
Nah. Looks like he was teaching at UBC :D

droid327
April 28th, 2010, 02:39 PM
As a paleontologist, I do like how they always have a designated geologist to explain geological things, and dont just assume that Sam/McKay/Rush just knows about that, too :) Or, at least, they have an Ancient computer system or database tell S/M/R what they need to know.

Temporal/practical/quantum/relativisitic/particle/high-energy/Newtonian physics, computer science, math, biology, whatever, its all the same to them...but when you need to know about a rock, well, thats over their heads and you're going to have to call an expert :D

You have the geologist on Destiny, though I havent learned his name yet; you also had the paleontologist on the Unas world SG-1 (how exactly do you become qualified to do exopaleontology anyway :D?), and I think SG-9 had a geological specialist mining the mineral on the Northwest Indian world (Spirits, I think was that episode's title?)

Otarush
May 4th, 2010, 10:08 AM
Wait...so...If Rush isn't real, then the team aren't realy stuck on Destiny, they never cracked the secret of the 9th chevron, Senator Armstrong's funds didn't go to Icarus (golden toilet seats, I'm looking at you), Daniel's interaction with him (and O'Neill's interaction with a stranded Young) never took place. So two of the most important people in the franchise are sharing a hallucenation, and the entire program, dating as far back as the original trip to Abydos, are the mad ramblings of a discredited academic and a suicidal officer?!

My mind. It is blown.

Duuude. My brain asploded thinking about the ramifications.


But anyways, I could buy that he's at Berkeley. People go all over the place for teaching jobs at universities, from what I've heard: one of my favorite trombone performance people at the university in my city went half the country over to be an assistant professor.

carmencatalina
May 4th, 2010, 01:35 PM
I moved from the UK to the midwest to get an assistant professor position - I can imagine Rush moving from the UK to California to land an academic position - happens all the time.

garhkal
May 8th, 2010, 04:22 AM
Especially when it is high paying or prestigious.