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GateWorld
April 23rd, 2010, 06:22 AM
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 220</FONT>
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Asked to help babysit Olivia’s niece, Walter tells her a musical noir tale about a private detective hired to investigate the theft of a powerful glass heart … by one Peter Bishop.

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magictrick
April 29th, 2010, 08:55 PM
I think the producers were on some Brown Betty when they decided to go ahead with this episode. Can't believe this is how they chose to follow up on such an amazing episode last week.

LtColCarter
April 30th, 2010, 11:51 AM
As I've been saying for a while now...the episode was lame and extremely painful to watch. Fringe has always had excellent stories until this episode. Really?...Well...at least Fifth will be happy that I gave it a chance...
:lol:

magictrick
April 30th, 2010, 12:35 PM
I did enjoy the singing corpses though.

SGFerrit
April 30th, 2010, 02:59 PM
I liked it when Walter sang Tears for Fears.

KEK
April 30th, 2010, 05:04 PM
My main problem with it is the manner in which they chose to execute it. I mean this is a sci-fi series, and the best they could come up with is Walter telling Olivia's niece a story? Watching Anna Torv try to sing was pretty painful too.

the fifth man
April 30th, 2010, 06:36 PM
As I've been saying for a while now...the episode was lame and extremely painful to watch. Fringe has always had excellent stories until this episode. Really?...Well...at least Fifth will be happy that I gave it a chance...
:lol:

Yeah, you did give it a shot. Definitely not Fringe's finest hour.

Krisz
April 30th, 2010, 08:26 PM
I know Fringe is bizarre, but usually it's cleverly bizarre! This was just..... babbling bizarre! I suppose we could look at it as really going inside Walter's 'head', that's the only way I was able to make 'sense' of this episode, if indeed there was any sense to be made of it!

Really.....really.....didn't need the 'singing'! Made me feel like someone was running their fingernails down a blackboard!

I did like how modern technology was made to look 1940 'ish in the '40's setting. That was the only thing I enjoyed about this episode, and of course the multi coloured patches on the cow in the story!

What was with that 'heart' thing?!! Definitely not in Kansas anymore! :S

Anyone else expected 'Teal'c - Private Investigator' to step through that door as Walter started to tell his story?! :D :P

Coronach
April 30th, 2010, 08:58 PM
Haha...I really liked it. :o

Ian-S
May 1st, 2010, 04:10 PM
not the greatest episode, but funny all the same.

KatG
May 2nd, 2010, 05:40 AM
It was okay. A little bizarre, a little painful at times, but I like the explanation of it being what goes on in Walter's head. Makes it a little easier to watch.

Joachim
May 2nd, 2010, 12:43 PM
:mckay: you all have terrible taste this was the best episode :mckay:

the fifth man
May 2nd, 2010, 06:33 PM
:mckay: you all have terrible taste this was the best episode :mckay:

Best episode? Not a chance. But, watching it a second time around, I did enjoy it a bit more.

Joachim
May 2nd, 2010, 11:41 PM
I was being a little facetious with the post. I agree its definitely not the best episode they've ever done, but its certainly one of the most memorable and unique. At the very least its one of the best, i'd say.

LtColCarter
May 3rd, 2010, 06:26 AM
I did enjoy the singing corpses though.

I did get a laugh from that as well...


It was okay. A little bizarre, a little painful at times, but I like the explanation of it being what goes on in Walter's head. Makes it a little easier to watch.

Yes...that did make it a bit bearable...


I was being a little facetious with the post. I agree its definitely not the best episode they've ever done, but its certainly one of the most memorable and unique. At the very least its one of the best, i'd say.

I must disagree with you 100 times over. At the very least...this was one of Fringe's worst episode. I'll even be so bold as to say its Fringe's only bad episode.

jds1982
May 7th, 2010, 07:46 AM
Oh come on people, this was pretty funny. I loved the singing corpses, and I had Candy Man stuck in my head the whole week.

LtColCarter
May 7th, 2010, 07:55 AM
Oh come on people, this was pretty funny. I loved the singing corpses, and I had Candy Man stuck in my head the whole week.

I'll give you that...the singing corpses were funny...but the rest was ridiculous!!!

magictrick
May 7th, 2010, 06:52 PM
I must disagree with you 100 times over. At the very least...this was one of Fringe's worst episode. I'll even be so bold as to say its Fringe's only bad episode.

Barring singing corpses, I would say this was the worst episode.

Easter Lily
May 8th, 2010, 01:14 PM
I am most definitely in the great minority here.
I loved it. The music especially.
It's quirky and humorous. Loved the use of the hard boiled genre. Reminded me of some of those Next Gen eps that revolved around that period.
Singing corpses were a great touch.

Anna Torv is no Bogey but I take what I can get. ;) :P

Dusk
May 9th, 2010, 06:29 AM
Well I thought this was a fantastic interlude between last week's serious cliffhanger and what is to come. Light-hearted and quirky, this episode works well on so many levels, and the allegory... rich and wholesome.

My favourite parts were Lt. Broyles piano solo, Jean's dotty makeover, Prof Bishop's book of dreams, and the 'Watcher' fight scene (which reminded me a little of the Agent Smiths en masse attack on Neo in "The Matrix Reloaded"). Walter's Tears for Fears karaoke was also priceless! That Torv's melody wasn't birdsong didn't bother me in the slightest, as I was more focused on Olivia's obvious sadness at Peter's death.

You all complain that it was over the top and out of touch with the style of the show. I say they should have gone even more extreme and really played the stylised film noir theme.

Maybe you have to be in the right frame of mind to enjoy an episode like "Brown Betty", but either way, I adored it!

Linda06
May 16th, 2010, 10:04 AM
Well this episode was.......Interesting? Unique? Bizarre? hmm not sure how to sum it up :p

But the singing corpses sure made up for the rest of the ep :p

LtColCarter
May 17th, 2010, 07:06 AM
Well this episode was.......Interesting? Unique? Bizarre? hmm not sure how to sum it up :p

But the singing corpses sure made up for the rest of the ep :p

I can sum it up..."Caca"

Linda06
May 19th, 2010, 09:57 AM
I can sum it up..."Caca"

*nods head*

LtColCarter
May 19th, 2010, 10:21 AM
*nods head*

But you are right about the singing corpses! Reminded me of those "Wally The Big Mouth Bass" things...

MattSilver 3k
June 3rd, 2010, 09:43 AM
I've been blitzing through Fringe as of late, and declined to comment on every episode's thread for fear of pestering up this subforum with my overly positive opinions, but I said to myself that I would just read the threads' comments and maybe post in the finale one.

Until Brown Betty. Wow, a lot of you kids did not like this one at all! Seriously? I guess tastes are different but this one has secured a spot in my top episodes of Fringe so far (Though maybe in a different category... Sort-of a "Best 'Strange' Episode") because of a combination of things:

- First off, the fact that it's a break from the main storyline while keeping the character stuff very very strong. I've gotten to know these crazy characters, and am quite invested in both Walter and Olivia's interest in Peter in different ways. Not only that, Astrid being there is always a comforting experience - she's a good grounding character now that Charlie's kaput.

- Seconably, the comedy. Aside from laughing at the whole thing (As elaborated on below), there was just a very refreshing comic effect to this episode. SINGING CORPSES, of course. The Ella/Walter/Astrid banter (Especially about Ella noting that she'd "rather learn some algebra instead" and Astrid's "Boy, what those kids must've done to you...). Just the cutaway of Ella and Walter feeding Gene, the entirety of the William Bell/Nina stuff ("Get back to you, my love.")

- Thirdly, the noir/the whole story. Something as simple as the changed hairstyles and such (Anna Torv - foxy as always), the atmosphere (And the cinematography, with the brown filter!), the random bursts into song - oh man, as a noir fan with a slight interest in the occasional musical, wow this episode was a treat. Even further, how it went about putting the elements of Fringe together into a self-referential little story (Nina, Bell, The Observers, The alien probe from season 1, Rachel) that had emotional resonance! And yes, because of my love for noir, the smile on my face stayed true the entire time.

And finally, the emotional resonance. Walter screws up and Peter takes his heart away. That the heart was made of glass was a nice symbol of the fragile nature of their dynamic - glass is very easily broken, as are hearts. Not only the Walter/Peter stuff - Walter's telling of the story had his interpretation of how Peter and Olivia connect and all that mushy jazz, and he's pretty damn right. We see in the "Brown Betty" world how bad she feels at Peter's almost death, and that bookends brilliantly with her look of defeat at the end of the episode when she tells Walter there's been no sign of Peter at all.

All in all, it's an episode like this that, while not something really important to the overall story, plays awesome with the established Fringe nature and turns it upside down while keeping the characters, as in - the people that drive the show, emotionally consistent and awesomely awesome.

SINGING CORPSES (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL9jzj9GUJE), dammit!

mr_kennedy
July 9th, 2010, 10:47 PM
This episode was ok when you think it came from a high Walter's point of view, but i gotta say this episode was really fluffy :p, it kind of reminded me of once more with feeling only not as good :p

Singing Corpses :lol: oh and ester Ficklesworth :lol: the look on Astrid's face

LtColCarter
July 12th, 2010, 06:11 AM
This episode was ok when you think it came from a high Walter's point of view, but i gotta say this episode was really fluffy :p, it kind of reminded me of once more with feeling only not as good :p

Singing Corpses :lol: oh and ester Ficklesworth :lol: the look on Astrid's face

Yes...and scary things go on in Walter's head!