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randomking
April 9th, 2010, 07:26 PM
im wondering if destiny has jumped a galaxy since they have arrived...
also any one know how Meany galaxy's it has gone since earth?

Pharaoh Atem
April 9th, 2010, 07:27 PM
im wondering if destiny has jumped a galaxy since they have arrived...
also any one know how Meany galaxy's it has gone since earth?

it's left the milly way and gone passed pegasus. other then that i don't think it's been stated.

Replicator Todd
April 9th, 2010, 07:29 PM
I believe they have been in the same galaxy since "Air" and will end up someplace different in the next season.

s09119
April 9th, 2010, 07:30 PM
im wondering if destiny has jumped a galaxy since they have arrived...
also any one know how Meany galaxy's it has gone since earth?

My guess is they're in the same galaxy. No one's stated that they've been in FTL for months like they would probably need to be to cross the intergalactic void.

rsanchez
April 9th, 2010, 07:30 PM
They had a little graphic showing the Destiny's journey through the years when they arrived on the ship, and from what I remember it was at least a dozen galaxies before they switched off the graphic. It's likely many dozens of galaxies. I can't tell you if they jumped a galaxy since the start though, but probably not since the Destiny has been stopping near a planet regularly since they got there. I wonder what they do when the Destiny goes into a void between galaxies...

randomking
April 9th, 2010, 07:38 PM
that's one of the reasons i am wondering....it has to be something obber compared to ftl...seems like the battery's would not last for the trip

timebandit
April 9th, 2010, 07:55 PM
those aliens probably dont want it to be destroyed, according what rush said about his experiences w/them, but after this episode ... it kind of looked like they were trying to ...

how many galaxies are in the known universe? whole lot of them....

http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/universe.html

maybe they're way further out then they think ?

Pharaoh Atem
April 9th, 2010, 07:58 PM
those aliens probably dont want it to be destroyed, given what rush said about his experiences w/them, but after this episode ... it kind of looked like they were trying to ...

how many galaxies are in the known universe? whole lot of them....

http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/universe.html

the smurfs want to gain access to the ship and learn it's secrets and after probing rush's mind in space. i'm sure their found some pretty interesting data

Replicator Todd
April 9th, 2010, 08:24 PM
the smurfs want to gain access to the ship and learn it's secrets and after probing rush's mind in space. i'm sure their found some pretty interesting data

:indeed:And I think they were shooting at the ship to force the Destiny crew to make a wrong decision and enable them to board again.

Pharaoh Atem
April 9th, 2010, 08:25 PM
:indeed:And I think they were shooting at the ship to force the Destiny crew to make a wrong decision and enable them to board again.

it was stated by rush in this ep that they want to ware down destiny's defenses

jelgate
April 9th, 2010, 09:03 PM
I think they are most defiantly in the same galaxy since Air. A changing across galaxies would take awhile

Pharaoh Atem
April 9th, 2010, 09:04 PM
and isn't FTL slower then hyperdrive??

jelgate
April 9th, 2010, 09:12 PM
and isn't FTL slower then hyperdrive??

That is currently unknown

randomking
April 9th, 2010, 09:29 PM
That is currently unknown

there was a forum about this already hyperdrive is a relay relay fast form of FTL....but plan FTL (which is what destiny is using) is slower than hyperdrive

Astria
April 9th, 2010, 10:01 PM
there was a forum about this already hyperdrive is a relay relay fast form of FTL....but plan FTL (which is what destiny is using) is slower than hyperdrive

Was this stated on the show, or is it just conjecture by some of the fans?

Pharaoh Atem
April 9th, 2010, 10:02 PM
Was this stated on the show, or is it just conjecture by some of the fans?

by some of the fans.

jimv1983
April 10th, 2010, 01:39 AM
and isn't FTL slower then hyperdrive??


That is currently unknown

Jelgate is correct although my impression is that it is slower than hyper drive.

Mike.
April 10th, 2010, 01:46 AM
Or it's faster since it needed to cross those huge distances and requires less power. We don't know.

escyos
April 10th, 2010, 04:02 AM
the destiny has travelled 4 lightyears from earth

Mike.
April 10th, 2010, 04:07 AM
the destiny has travelled 4 lightyears from earth

Umm, no. That would be even closer than Proxima Centauri, which is the closest star to us other than the Sun. And it's in our own galaxy. I think a figure closer to 4 billion light years would be accurate.

escyos
April 10th, 2010, 04:08 AM
Umm, no. That would be even closer than Proxima Centauri, which is the closest star to us other than the Sun. And it's in our own galaxy. I think a figure closer to 4 billion light years would be accurate.

4 sounds more accurate

Mike.
April 10th, 2010, 04:13 AM
4 sounds more accurate

Nope. The show said billions. That it left our galaxy, passed Pegasus, and many others behind.

Here's the quote from the show (Air part 1 (http://www.gateworld.net/universe/s1/transcripts/101.shtml)):


RUSH: No. That's where the ship originally embarked from.

BRODY: Earth.

(The map begins to pull out and a line shows the route of the ship as the Milky Way fades into the distance.)

PARK: It's leaving the galaxy.

RUSH: It did - long ago.

(They watch as the line continues to travel through the stars, stopping at a couple of points and then continuing onwards. Brody recognises a constellation as the line whizzes away after a stop-off.)

BRODY: That was Pegasus.

(The line moves on, indicating many more points where the ship stopped.)

SCOTT: So those points are more stars?

WALLACE: No - they're galaxies.

(Shocked, Scott walks over to Rush.)

SCOTT: Rush. Where the hell are we?

RUSH (quietly): Several billion light years from home.

escyos
April 10th, 2010, 04:20 AM
Nope. The show said billions. That it left our galaxy, passed Pegasus, and many others behind.

Here's the quote from the show (Air part 1 (http://www.gateworld.net/universe/s1/transcripts/101.shtml)):

no i dont think so, 4 makes more sense, i think rush mispoke again

Mike.
April 10th, 2010, 04:28 AM
K. Let me put this another way. 4 light years is the distance (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=proxima+centauri+distance+from+earth) to Proxima Centauri in our own galaxy, the closest star other than the Sun. The Destiny is shown leaving MW, PG and many other galaxies behind. It's not just what Rush says.

See pic:

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091007201906/stargate/images/9/9f/Flightpath.gif
- and that's just what we see before the display goes out of the camera frame.

escyos
April 10th, 2010, 04:34 AM
yea but 4 is how far they are

Mike.
April 10th, 2010, 04:36 AM
I'm being trolled, aren't I ? :o And falling for it.

escyos
April 10th, 2010, 04:38 AM
I'm being trolled, aren't I ? :o And falling for it.

most likely, i have been drinking....

and i do know destiny is a few billion light years away

Mike.
April 10th, 2010, 04:40 AM
:lol: You got me.

garhkal
April 10th, 2010, 10:40 AM
those aliens probably dont want it to be destroyed, according what rush said about his experiences w/them, but after this episode ... it kind of looked like they were trying to ...

how many galaxies are in the known universe? whole lot of them....

http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/universe.html

maybe they're way further out then they think ?

Maybe they would have stopped firing once our shields were out THEN boarded.

Demoniser
April 10th, 2010, 11:31 AM
Destiny has been in the same Galaxy since the start of the season (how long it had been in that particular galaxy before the expedition arrived is unknown. I believe JM said that the upcoming episode 'Sabotage' would deal with something along the lines of crossing between galaxies or some such.

All we know is that Destiny has travelled 'several billion light years'. Putting that into perspective

Nearest Star to Earth - estimated 4 lightyears away
The Diameter of the milkway is just about 100,000 lightyears or so
Milky Way to Pegasus is 3 million lightyears (in the show, we don't know what galaxy pegasus is actually referring to, although its most certainly the Pegasus Dwarf Irregular Galaxy.

The Local group (containing the Milky Way, Pegasus and over 30 galaxies in total is 10 million light years in diameter)

The Virgo Supercluster or the Local Supercluster contains the Local Group along with about 100 other galaxy groups and clusters, it has a diameter of 110 million light years or 33 megaparsecs.

Now 1000 million maxes 1 billion.


Galactic Filaments which are debated to be the largest structures in the universe and contain superclusters.

Lets take the largest known one in the universe and the largest known structure in the univere, the Great Sloan Wall.

50-80 megaparsecs (80 parsecs is about 260 million light years)

The Great Sloan Wall is 1.37 billion light years in length, and is located aproximately 1 billion light years from earth.

So after a bit of background research, how far has the Destiny Travelled if we assume its gone in a relatively straight path? (i.e. not zig zagging back and forth, the graphic shown in air showed it going forward all the time but deviating in its direction relatively slightly.) This is all assumption ofc as we didn't see the 'whole' flight path but i can't see it doubling back on itself, the mission was to go out into the universe ofc, but based on as much reasonable evidence as we have.

Not to forget Rush's statement of 'Were several billion lightyears from earth)

So whats the resonable conlusion?

Its left the Milkway
Its Left the Local Cluster
Its Left the Local Supercluster
Its probably gone beyond the Great Sloan Wall
its really frakkin far out into the universe.

Mind boggling numbers when you think about it. I really hope tptb actually looked at these figures when they came up with the idea for the show as Destiny is either insanely overpowered in its speed or theres a rational explanation to it.

randomking
April 10th, 2010, 12:46 PM
the destiny has travelled 4 lightyears from earth

ya a light year is how far light travile's in one year...destiny has be traveling faster than light for million's of years...but im more interested in how meany galaxy's its gone thru vs distance

randomking
April 10th, 2010, 12:55 PM
Earth-The Sun is 1 lightyear,
The Diameter of the milkway is just about 100,000 lightyears or so
from the earth to the sun is 8 light minutes (or with in minutes) a light year is mesherd in how far light travels in one year......

Demoniser
April 10th, 2010, 03:31 PM
from the earth to the sun is 8 light minutes (or with in minutes) a light year is mesherd in how far light travels in one year......

indeed quite true my bad. To many numbers :)

Jper
April 10th, 2010, 04:59 PM
I believe they have been in the same galaxy since "Air" and will end up someplace different in the next season.

Actually the jump between galaxy will happen in this season if we may believe spoilers. I think in Lost they'll leave the galaxy. Anyway, I don't wan to reveal too much, but it has been stated that Destiny intends to leave the galaxy in one of the upcoming episodes, soon. :) Just go read the Faith, and Lost pre-airing threads. :)

rsanchez
April 10th, 2010, 11:52 PM
I wonder why the Ancients decided to let Destiny fly to Pegasus, and not Andromeda. Were they just bored with another spiral and decided to go for a dwarf? Also, I wonder if one of the galaxies Destiny explored was one of the Asgard galaxies, and that was how the Asgard and Ancients made first contact... And where do the Furlings factor in this?

Demoniser
April 11th, 2010, 04:00 AM
It's probably safe to assume that Destiny charted Pegasus prior to the ancient exodus to that galaxy. Hence why they chose it, as they already must have had some information on it.

Who knows maybe the Destiny did discover Ida, it would make sense actually.

Jper
April 11th, 2010, 04:42 AM
And Pegasus was probably seeded with stargates by the seeder ships. Stargates which were later replaced by the new Pegasus model stargates. Like Destiny, Atlantis is a space ship with a gate on-board.

The Swarm
April 11th, 2010, 06:04 AM
I think it is mentioned in a spoiler from the episode "Sabotage" that one of Destiny's 12 FTL engines explodes, and RUsh says that its not theat bad since it wont drag down the others when the ship jumps the void between the galaxy's.

I think its safe to assume that Destiny will jump to another galaxy in season 1.

Jper
April 11th, 2010, 06:13 AM
I think it is mentioned in a spoiler from the episode "Sabotage" that one of Destiny's 12 FTL engines explodes, and RUsh says that its not theat bad since it wont drag down the others when the ship jumps the void between the galaxy's.

I think its safe to assume that Destiny will jump to another galaxy in season 1.

To be specific it happens in Lost. 1.15. And then in the next episode, 1.16. Sabotage, one of the 12 FTL engines is sabotaged. :)

E.D.E.N.
April 25th, 2010, 08:43 PM
that's one of the reasons i am wondering....it has to be something obber compared to ftl...seems like the battery's would not last for the trip

One would think since there would be no reason for the ship to be inhabited in the void between galaxies, the crew would have originally evacuated back through the gate before it's departure from a galaxy, and then Destiny would automatically shut down all systems except propulsion,shields, and navigation, giving them the needed longevity in FTL.:cameron: