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GateWorld
January 30th, 2010, 06:26 AM
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<FONT SIZE="4"><A HREF="http://www.scifistream.com/smallville/s9/" STYLE="text-decoration: none">ABSOLUTE JUSTICE, PART 2</A></FONT>
<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 912</FONT>
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Clark, Olli, and John Jones join the survivors of the Justice Society in tracking down the Icicle, while a mysterious player with her own agenda gives Lois the exclusive on the heroes of the past.

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<div align="center"><B>Special Note:</b> This thread covers the second half of "Absolute Justice," which originally
aired as a single movie event. If you want to talk about only Part 1 in particular,
please use the "Absolute Justice, Part 1" thread instead.</div>

Replicator Todd
February 6th, 2010, 11:06 AM
This episode(and its first part) was utterly fantastic. Best Smallville episode to date! We got to see so much! When is the next two-hour event! :P

Madwelshboy
February 6th, 2010, 11:12 AM
Loved the episode, Dr Fate stole it for me. So glad that Martian Manhunter got his powers back! And the coming apocalypse.... what could it be? I've read some theories, which would work as a season 10 storyline!

Replicator Todd
February 6th, 2010, 11:56 AM
Loved the episode, Dr Fate stole it for me. So glad that Martian Manhunter got his powers back! And the coming apocalypse.... what could it be? I've read some theories, which would work as a season 10 storyline!

I'm thinking she actually meant Apokolips(or however its spelled), which might mean Supes most dangerous foe, Darkseid. That would be an epic final season of Smallville. I loved seeing Martian Manhunter in his true form even if only was for a few seconds! Dr. Fate was indeed quite a show stealer, although Michael Shanks was the best to me, Dr. Fate wasn't far behind him.

Madwelshboy
February 6th, 2010, 12:23 PM
I'm thinking she actually meant Apokolips(or however its spelled), which might mean Supes most dangerous foe, Darkseid.

:indeed: that seems to be the general consensus from what i've read.

Ashizuri
February 6th, 2010, 12:31 PM
I really loved this. The beginning with Chloe, the Star Spangled Kid, and Icecicle was amazing, and it was nice to see Chloe actually have something to do.

Clark being proactive and investigating on his own was great, and as much as I love Lois I was happy that she had a supporting role here.

I hope that TPTB can find a balance that gives all the characters screentime like they did here.

I loved the end scene with Oliver, John, and Chloe going out together. The first steps toward the JLA becomming a family were long overdue and I hope this leads to a better working group of superheroes.

Though, I have to say that I wasn't all that impressed with Shanks. He was ok, but his "Dark Knight" growling was very distracting. Pam Grier as Amanda Waller was a bit of a let down as well, but Checkmate/the Suicide Squad could be amazing.

Also, the apocalypse is coming. . . As in Apokolips? Is Darkseid coming to Smallville?

Mike.
February 6th, 2010, 01:39 PM
Awesome episode. I wonder where Zod and his soldiers will fit in this whole apocalypse (at least part of it), maybe he'll get to finish the tower.

Sprinkles
February 6th, 2010, 02:54 PM
I really enjoyed the Absolute Justice movie event, thanks to the experienced writing skills of Geoff Johns there was plenty of stuff in there for comic fans to reference and to give tribute to the JSA years. Loved the pairing off and interaction between characters especially Clark & Dr Fate, Green Arrow & Hawkman and Cloe and Stargirl. :D

I have recently started watching Smallville again after missing about 5 seasons and am quite enjoying season 9. I love the change in attitude from teen drama and the move to the city. Having watched most of season 9 I guess I have become more accustomed to the style of the stories they tell and the methods the actors have to use to allow the audience to suspend their of disbelief in some very bizarre situations. Glad to see else where Mr Shanks getting some good feedback from this :)

majorsal
February 6th, 2010, 03:45 PM
i loved this episode! :D

just lots of nice moments, and i adored the 'we're a family' feel the old super heroes where showing to the younger ones. (i see chloe implementing some of this now)

very nice, all around! ;)

SpacedOutAgain
February 6th, 2010, 04:57 PM
I really loved this. The beginning with Chloe, the Star Spangled Kid, and Icecicle was amazing, and it was nice to see Chloe actually have something to do.

Clark being proactive and investigating on his own was great, and as much as I love Lois I was happy that she had a supporting role here.

I hope that TPTB can find a balance that gives all the characters screentime like they did here.

I loved the end scene with Oliver, John, and Chloe going out together. The first steps toward the JLA becomming a family were long overdue and I hope this leads to a better working group of superheroes.

Though, I have to say that I wasn't all that impressed with Shanks. He was ok, but his "Dark Knight" growling was very distracting. Pam Grier as Amanda Waller was a bit of a let down as well, but Checkmate/the Suicide Squad could be amazing.

Also, the apocalypse is coming. . . As in Apokolips? Is Darkseid coming to Smallville?

I agree the whole movie event came together very nicely for those of us who could watch it.
Mr Shanks was for me the ony reason I sat down and watched Smallville again after being away from it for so long.

Space :)

EvilSpaceAlien
February 6th, 2010, 05:09 PM
I decided to watch it because of Michael Shanks.
Well, I wasn't wowed. For starters, I truly despise those silly superhero costumes. Seriously, MS looked utterly ridiculous. Also I'm not a big fan of the writing either. These two episodes did not manage to make me interested in Smallville again. Sorry. :o

skarwolf
February 6th, 2010, 06:53 PM
I decided to watch it because of Michael Shanks.
Well, I wasn't wowed. For starters, I truly despise those silly superhero costumes. Seriously, MS looked utterly ridiculous. Also I'm not a big fan of the writing either. These two episodes did not manage to make me interested in Smallville again. Sorry. :o

Agreed.

jdjunkie
February 7th, 2010, 04:17 AM
I really enjoyed the Absolute Justice movie event, thanks to the experienced writing skills of Geoff Johns there was plenty of stuff in there for comic fans to reference and to give tribute to the JSA years. Loved the pairing off and interaction between characters especially Clark & Dr Fate, Green Arrow & Hawkman and Cloe and Stargirl. :D

I have recently started watching Smallville again after missing about 5 seasons and am quite enjoying season 9. I love the change in attitude from teen drama and the move to the city. Having watched most of season 9 I guess I have become more accustomed to the style of the stories they tell and the methods the actors have to use to allow the audience to suspend their of disbelief in some very bizarre situations. Glad to see else where Mr Shanks getting some good feedback from this :)

THIS.

I think Geoff Johns did a great job, and there were some very good performances throughout.

Chloe, I loved, I always did. I gave up on Smallville a few years ago ... not enough time, too many shows! ... and I really like how front and centre she was here.

I tuned in for Michael Shanks, and I wasn't disappointed. He has this terrific ability to bring depth and feeling to characters, which is exactly what he did here with Hall/Hawkman. Loved his scenes with Oliver and Dr Fate especially. Costumes don't bother me; they're superheroes, they wear costumes. The voice? Just used to emphasise the difference between Hall and Hawkman, I suppose. No biggie.

I adored the family vibe of the JSA, and, watching alongside a comic fan of nearly 50 years' standing, he adored it, and was handily able to fill me in on a lot of the background character stuff.

I thoroughly enjoyed it. I might have to start watching Smallville again. :D

LtColCarter
February 7th, 2010, 09:54 AM
WOW!!!! I'm at a loss for words! I really enjoyed this! I've always loved Smallville, but this time...I was was utterly wowed by the episode!

Excellent work!

Heaven
February 7th, 2010, 11:59 AM
the show has become utterly ridiculous
maybe it's because I'm not a comics fan so I have no idea who these heroes are supposed to be
but it's nothing like the show I used to enjoy in the early seasons

I'm done with SV.

LtColCarter
February 7th, 2010, 12:46 PM
the show has become utterly ridiculous
maybe it's because I'm not a comics fan so I have no idea who these heroes are supposed to be
but it's nothing like the show I used to enjoy in the early seasons

I'm done with SV.

Are you kidding? It was an excellent episode. If you thought it was rediculous...why didn't you stop watching in season 1...not season 9...

madaboutdanny
February 7th, 2010, 01:00 PM
the show has become utterly ridiculous
maybe it's because I'm not a comics fan so I have no idea who these heroes are supposed to be
but it's nothing like the show I used to enjoy in the early seasons

I'm done with SV.

I stopped watching Smallville because it was supposed to be a comics series instead it was a teen drama, with that awful "Clana" now it seems heading on the right way.

LoneStar1836
February 7th, 2010, 02:18 PM
Meh. It was kind of a bust for me. I don't read the comics so the background on the JSA and its members don't really interest me. I get why they did the episode and what is supposed to eventually evolve from it...the JLA, but the main story wasn't that interesting for me. The smaller character stuff was the only good part for me.

I enjoyed Legion from last season, even though I knew nothing of those characters. Dr. Fate was the best of these new characters for me.

But it was great to see Martian Manhunter back to form. :cool:

Replicator Todd
February 7th, 2010, 02:42 PM
the show has become utterly ridiculous
maybe it's because I'm not a comics fan so I have no idea who these heroes are supposed to be
but it's nothing like the show I used to enjoy in the early seasons

I'm done with SV.

:eek: I understand people have different opinions, but.....really? I love Smallville.....teen angst or comic book action, I love it all.

LtColCarter
February 7th, 2010, 04:40 PM
:eek: I understand people have different opinions, but.....really? I love Smallville.....teen angst or comic book action, I love it all.

As do I

Mike.
February 7th, 2010, 05:04 PM
Heaven raised an important point, think of CW's demographic, if Smallville becomes too nerdy its ratings will fall. It has to maintain a balance, so until we can fund it by ourselves it won't be the "ultimate comic book tv show" we'd love forever. It has to have teen drama and sometimes dial down the obscure references (to the general population). I loved the episode but I can understand how frustrating it would be for people who are not in the know.

Heaven
February 7th, 2010, 06:41 PM
seriously I miss the drama
this show used to be about Clark, now it's about superheroes
Clark used to be a person, now he's a total robot
the guy has got no ambitions no desires no hobbies no plans and no friends (only colleagues)

Mike.
February 7th, 2010, 08:12 PM
no friends (only colleagues)

I like that it was even pointed out in the show - nobody comes to the WatchTower unless something bad is going on, that they should be closer like a family.

LtColCarter
February 8th, 2010, 08:56 AM
no friends (only colleagues)

I like that it was even pointed out in the show - nobody comes to the WatchTower unless something bad is going on, that they should be closer like a family.

Yes...I concur...and I liked at the end of the episode when Oliver showed up and they all went to dinner. I was sortta hoping Clark and some others would've showed up too.

Ashizuri
February 8th, 2010, 09:30 AM
Clark used to be a person, now he's a total robot
the guy has got no ambitions no desires no hobbies no plans and no friends (only colleagues)

I completely disagree. Lois and Clark and their relationship has been at the very center of the show this season. Now, I think Clark has taken a back seat almost all of this season (to Lois and Olliver), and even most of the "Clois" scenes have been Lois-centric, but the guy obviously has a personal life. Almost every episode coda is Clark and Lois and romance-type stuff.

If any one has no ambition, desires, hobbies, plans or friends this season it's been Chloe, which AJ addressed and hopefully took the first step in correcting.

Madwelshboy
February 8th, 2010, 09:41 AM
seriously I miss the drama
this show used to be about Clark, now it's about superheroes
Clark used to be a person, now he's a total robot
the guy has got no ambitions no desires no hobbies no plans and no friends (only colleagues)

If you look at Clarks arc from the end of season 8 into season 9, that was his choise. After the death of Jimmy, he decideds to focus on his training and embracing his alien heritage, during his darkest hour, which has resulted in his relationships with Chloe and Oliver will suffering this season.

jwgrlrrajn
February 8th, 2010, 11:36 AM
The episode was good, I liked it a lot. I also like the fact that J'onn got his powers back. (finally!) I realize that they had to get rid of his powers in season eight, otherwise the Doomsday fight would have been over before it started. (instead of six seconds after ) But I'm really happy that he has his powers back, it's just too bad that it had to come at the expense of Dr. Fate. (well, at least the helmet can find a new host)

Other than that, my only real complaints against this episode were Tess' inclusion, (I still say that woman is a blight upon Smallville) and Hawkman's over-the-top raspy voice. His voice in the beginning was perfect, why'd they have to go and ruin it? Now, Michael Shanks is a really good actor, and I don't blame him in the slightest. It was probably just the director saying stuff like, "that's great, but could you make him sound more "growl-y"?"

(okay, my other complaint was that his wings just didn't look right for some reason, I guess they were too stiff)

Anyway, little tidbits I absolutely loved...

J'onn's outfit resembling his comic book look as closely as possible without making it look cheesy or unrealistic, unlike Stargirl. I realize that her midriff is bare in the comics, but here it just looked out of place, imo. (the green skin was nice to see, as well as him phasing out)

Lois talking to herself about "this is the part where the girl opens the door and meets the guy in the hockey mask" or something to that effect, and then Dr. Fate shows up behind her.

The mentioning of the "silver age" of heroes.

Dr. Fate hinting, if not outright stating, that Lex is still alive.

"Stripesy was a lame name"

I also really like the concept of these heroes bringing their families to Thanksgiving dinner at the base.

Oh, something else I noticed. In the episode "Run," Bart had several fake I.D.s, and one of them said "Jay Garrick." Of course, Jay Garrick is revealed to be a member of the JSA in this episode. (whoops!)

One other thing, this is probably just a matter of personal preference, but Pam Grier just didn't quite do it for me as Amanda Waller, maybe it was the hair, I don't know. I just kind of wish they could have gotten CCH Pounder for the role, she just totally owns that role in the DCAU and bringing over to Smallville would have made it a billion times better, imo.

entil2001
February 8th, 2010, 04:30 PM
When this double-length episode was first announced, I was a bit concerned. The last time the producers brought in Geoff Johns to introduce a classic DC team to the “Smallville” universe, it was the utter mess that was “Legion”. That episode was the most potent example of the “DC Syndrome”: the tendency to introduce the classic DC characters with the assumption that proper backstory is unnecessary because the audience already knows the history and continuity. A great deal in “Legion” was glossed over, right down to the character names and abilities.

The writers have been doing a much better job of introducing classic DC characters this season, perhaps based on an honest assessment of the shortcomings of previous attempts. And perhaps Johns learned from his own mistakes as well. Whatever the reason, this episode was a far cry above past efforts.

I’ve said in other venues that I’ve always loved stories that call back to the secrets and parallels with previous generations. For example, one of the things I love about the Harry Potter story is how the truth about the previous generation and the First War against Voldemort is necessary to put Harry’s story in context. When it was far more consistent, the story of the Company and the Twelve on “Heroes” provided a similar narrative thrill.

“Smallville” introduced something similar with Veritas, but it was never quite as integrated as it could (or should) have been. The history of the Luthors and Kents earlier in the series did, of course, serve a similar purpose, when the parallels between Lionel, Jonathan, and Martha spoke to the relationship between Lex, Clark, and Lana. But the past couple seasons have been much more about Clark’s evolution as a hero, and along with Oliver Queen, his role in a much wider superheroic context.

Right from the beginning, the style and tone of the episode brought to mind some of the aspects of “Watchmen”, though clearly a more cohesive and network-friendly version. I was struck by the sense of depth given to the history of the Justice Society, and how well Johns managed to explain how something with such a rich history could have been unknown for so long. There were aspects of “legacy” that came across in elements of the score as well, all contributing to the sense of a long prelude to Clark’s world.

For example, Hawkman made a solid point about how Clark and Oliver have very little understanding of what has come before; they are focused on their own aims and personal histories, not that of the world around them. In fact, considering how many of the metahumans have been directly tied to the various meteor showers, starting with the one that brought Clark to Earth, there was very little reason for Clark or Oliver to even suspect that there had been societies of heroes in decades past.

As such, it was a nice touch that the writers incorporated elements of the DC character backstories, however truncated, to explain how some of the members of the JSA acquired their abilities. It doesn’t quite explain everything, but then, a lot of the dialogue suggested that many of the members were simply well-trained humans. In that respect, there was the other parallel to the Minutemen of “Watchmen”.

One of the recurring themes for the ninth season has been the tension between Clark, Oliver, and Chloe. For the purposes of the story, this was extended to include all the members of the nascent Justice League, many of which haven’t been seen in quite some time. Establishing that the team has been having issues with common purpose is a smart way to address the very practical limitations of the series; they simply can’t afford to have all those actors and actresses waiting in the wings.

Unfortunately, it also hinges on the notion that the audience simply assumes that Oliver’s team has been operating in the background through Chloe, even if it has hardly ever come up in conversation. Granted, it makes complete sense, because that’s the function of Watchtower in the first place. But it’s a stretch to say that the team is something that is particularly important in Clark’s life lately. It exists, but Clark is dissociated from it. That makes all the talk about how the team members, including John, are all Clark’s closest friends a bit disingenuous and forced.

It also means that the larger point about this story, that Clark and his friends need to start acting more like a family than a loose band of vigilantes, may never quite get the treatment it needs. There’s the final scene between Oliver, Chloe, and John, but that’s all we’re likely to see. Instead, it might mark a change in how Clark, Oliver, and Chloe interact going forward. It’s unfortunate, especially given the aims of Checkmate.

If there’s another aspect of this story that touches on the whole “Watchmen” vibe, it’s the role of Checkmate. I love this idea that Tess has been working behind the scenes to counter Zod (and perhaps others) by manipulating heroes past, present, and future to band together against a common foe. I especially like how they used Lois to get the story out there, garnering public trust in heroes again, all in preparation for a time when the masses will need a symbol of hope. That connects very well to Clark’s slow but steady development of the Blur as a public icon.

It also helps to demonstrate how well-rounded Tess has become as a character. Tess has ably replaced Lex as the character that does questionable things in the name of what she believes to be right for the world. The writers were never quite able to portray Lex as someone dedicated to saving humanity from alien threats, despite their best efforts, because they kept overshadowing his noble aims with his misdeeds. Tess, on the other hand, has been more consistently depicted as someone who believes that the ends justify the means, and as someone willing to bear the cost of her choices.

Hopefully, that is how the writers will portray Checkmate and its agents: not as a villain per se, but as an organization that operates in that grey area between outright moral heroism and clinical pragmatism. It would tie in well with Oliver and Chloe’s mindset, which in turn would challenge the audience to consider where the line between heroic vigilantism and villainy should be drawn. If the writers play their cards right, it would take “Smallville” to the next level.

So it’s possible that the writers could overcome the limitations of the series’ budget to incorporate some of the large-scale implications of this story. Unfortunately, long-term viability will do nothing to address the effect it had on this story. When push comes to shove, the writers were only able to gather a handful of the heroes from the JSA and proto-JLA, and that weakened the impact. Also, while Welling did about as good a job as one could hope with the final showdown, it just seemed too short a battle to pay off the excellent build-up. Then again, that’s been a major problem for “Smallville” for a while now, so it may be that the scale of the story only amplified the negative effects.

But did that ruin the story in any major capacity? Not at all. I can say, as a “Smallville” fan with very limited knowledge of the DC canon, that this was one of the best episodes of the series to date. I never felt like I was missing some crucial piece of information or continuity, and it really felt like everyone involved was putting forth their absolute best efforts. This is the sort of thing fans have been begging for, and for once, “Smallville” was able to deliver.

Eternal Density
February 8th, 2010, 08:09 PM
Yeah, it was nice to have the Justice Society explained deeply - with the Legion I was mostly thinking "I guess some people must be following this *shrug*" - and at the same time it wasn't over-expositional.
Nice to have Martian Manhunter back at the top of his game, plus Lois's usual getting entangled in what's going on with a side order of prophesy without following the ramifications herself. It's always fun when that happens to Lois, and it happens a lot :D
And I seriously loved the reveal at the end: yet another layer of Tess Mercer!!

wise one
February 9th, 2010, 10:29 AM
i thought that was a nice ep, dr fate was good and also a little hint of lex, when clark said he died he seemed to hold something back.

Tess is hot

SpacedOutAgain
February 9th, 2010, 01:30 PM
For those that are interested, I have managed to find a nice large image of the JSA painting from Smallville, from the man who painted it.

Here is the link to the website CLick Here (http://toyriffic.blogspot.com/2010/02/smallville-absolute-justice-jsa.html)


http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab59/spacemonkey29/smallville%20AJ/JSA-Smallville-1.jpg

For the big painting go here -
CLick Here (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BXiLAmoEpMI/S25OeAqeU1I/AAAAAAAAFvs/4dEvFUue2UU/s1600-h/JSA-Smallville.jpg)

It' a great painting. I would love to have that but in large scale hanging up in my house. :)

Space. :)

discodiva
February 9th, 2010, 03:56 PM
That's a stunning piece of artwork!...I LOVE it.....:D

Have just watched this today....am going to watch it again before I give my thoughts.....but from the fact that I'm going to watch it again you can probably guess that I have enjoyed it well enough to warrant a 2nd viewing!...:P

Deeds xx

SpacedOutAgain
February 9th, 2010, 04:11 PM
That's a stunning piece of artwork!...I LOVE it.....:D

Have just watched this today....am going to watch it again before I give my thoughts.....but from the fact that I'm going to watch it again you can probably guess that I have enjoyed it well enough to warrant a 2nd viewing!...:P

Deeds xx

Well, I'm not going to say how many time's I have watched it.... :D
I wonder if there is anywhere to buy a copy of that print / painting?
Maye I can try and get the artist's details and emall him or his agent?
I'll see what I can do.
Or maybe put it onto canvas art?
I could imagine that hanging on the wall just there *points at wall *

Space :D

madaboutdanny
February 10th, 2010, 12:40 AM
For those that are interested, I have managed to find a nice large image of the JSA painting from Smallville, from the man who painted it.

Here is the link to the website CLick Here (http://toyriffic.blogspot.com/2010/02/smallville-absolute-justice-jsa.html)


http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab59/spacemonkey29/smallville%20AJ/JSA-Smallville-1.jpg

For the big painting go here -
CLick Here (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BXiLAmoEpMI/S25OeAqeU1I/AAAAAAAAFvs/4dEvFUue2UU/s1600-h/JSA-Smallville.jpg)

It' a great painting. I would love to have that but in large scale hanging up in my house. :)

Space. :)
And he is Italian, makes me proud...

discodiva
February 10th, 2010, 08:51 AM
Finally got to see this yesterday....:D

I thoroughly enjoyed every single minute of it!!....oh my beloved superheroes of yesteryear!...how I love thee!!....I was a "Superman, Batman, Spiderman, He-Man, Thunderbirds, Thundercats, you name it I loved it" Girl!..:o.....and I thought everyone was perfect for their respective characters....I especially loved Dr Fate and his very tortured alter-ego Kent Nelson, and Phil Morris as John Jones/Martian Manhunter....I haven't watched Smallville for ages but caught the premiere of Season 8 on UK TV last Saturday where funnily enough MM LOST his Martian superpowers and hey presto! in AJ he got them back!!!....perfect symmetry imho!...:)

Michael was awesome!!..my god he's maturing into one amazing actor and such a beautiful man!...he gets better with age, in both talent and looks.....I had absolutely no problem with ol' gravel voice - that's what superheroes do!....and the costume did not look cheesy at all imho.....his softer side as Carter Hall was staggeringly subtle and sad and that final scene with Clark was absolutely amazing...I had tears in my eyes when he talked about his dead wife and the cruel curse on them both and laughed my head off at the exchanges with "Emo-Superhero" aka Green Arrow....oh Michael - just HOW many characters are you going to play opposite where the slashy UST is off the scale!....I hear Green Arrow/Hawkman fic being tapped out as we speak...:P

In short it was FABULOUS entertainment....will it win awards?....probaby not...will it be acclaimed as a critical dramatic success?....I doubt it....was Michael good?...absolutely...did he treat the character and the superhero genre with class and respect?..double, triple and quadruple absolutely!!....:D :D :D :D

That's all I need to be entertained...and I was....constantly!.....:jack_new_anime07:


Bring on the JSA spin-off I say!...Hawkman lives to fly again!!.....Yes, I said lives...HE STILL LIVES!!!..that alone is worth it....quite rare for most of Michael's guest parts...to be a "goodie" and alive at the end of the episode...;):P


Deeds xx

Angela V
February 10th, 2010, 10:42 AM
Being more of a Marvel girl (hey don't throw things at me!) I was able to follow the characters well enough. I'll probably be looking up character bios on them though so when I watch again I can understand more. I've always loved Superman though hence why I watch Smallville... Okay, Tom Welling. :samanime51:

I loved it. I'm glad Chloe, Olivi and Clarke were given the chance to see a "team". This show needs to keep moving forward and I've been happy so far.

The Tess reveal at the end I so did NOT expect. Should be interesting where this goes.

And I kind of had Watchmen flashbacks while watching this.

Replicator Todd
February 10th, 2010, 11:02 AM
Being more of a Marvel girl (hey don't throw things at me!) I was able to follow the characters well enough. I'll probably be looking up character bios on them though so when I watch again I can understand more. I've always loved Superman though hence why I watch Smallville... Okay, Tom Welling. :samanime51:

I loved it. I'm glad Chloe, Olivi and Clarke were given the chance to see a "team". This show needs to keep moving forward and I've been happy so far.

The Tess reveal at the end I so did NOT expect. Should be interesting where this goes.

And I kind of had Watchmen flashbacks while watching this.


I don't understand where people are getting the Watchmen stuff from. :P Was it the flashbacks? I'm a Marvel guy myself, I used to not care for Superman and only Bats. But Smallville has really got me into the DC side of things alot more. I now like superman when I didn't really like him that much before. :P


I hope to see Carter Hall again in the next season. :cool:

LtColCarter
February 10th, 2010, 12:23 PM
I don't understand where people are getting the Watchmen stuff from. :P Was it the flashbacks? I'm a Marvel guy myself, I used to not care for Superman and only Bats. But Smallville has really got me into the DC side of things alot more. I now like superman when I didn't really like him that much before. :P


I hope to see Carter Hall again in the next season. :cool:

I concur!

SpacedOutAgain
February 10th, 2010, 12:41 PM
Michael was awesome!!..my god he's maturing into one amazing actor and such a beautiful man!...he gets better with age, in both talent and looks.....I had absolutely no problem with ol' gravel voice - that's what superheroes do!....and the costume did not look cheesy at all imho.....his softer side as Carter Hall was staggeringly subtle and sad and that final scene with Clark was absolutely amazing...I had tears in my eyes when he talked about his dead wife and the cruel curse on them both and laughed my head off at the exchanges with "Emo-Superhero" aka Green Arrow....oh Michael - just HOW many characters are you going to play opposite where the slashy UST is off the scale!....I hear Green Arrow/Hawkman fic being tapped out as we speak...

Bring on the JSA spin-off I say!...Hawkman lives to fly again!!.....Yes, I said lives...HE STILL LIVES!!!..that alone is worth it....quite rare for most of Michael's guest parts...to be a "goodie" and alive at the end of the episode...;):P


Deeds xx

What a fantastic review!

Loved the Slash ref between Hawkman and Green Arrow, yep, got that there, it's so on the writing cards! (made me laugh as I dont really read Slash stuff, not my thing. but definatly saw the inclination!)
Also, am in total agreement about Michael taking on a part that is still alive and a Goodie!
It would be fab to see TPTB bring Hawkman back, and for us not to have to wait too long for it to happen.
But as I said somewhere else on the Forum, they better not do the inevitable and follow suit on most of the other parts that Michael plays. I'm sick of the R.i.P status his characters are cursed with.:rolleyes: I blame the writer's! They do it on purpose!

Mike.
February 10th, 2010, 01:15 PM
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For the big painting go here -
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Gorgeous painting. :) To the people noticing the Watchmen vibe, I completely agree.

cflat
March 2nd, 2010, 01:37 PM
I liked this episode. And I liked MS's part in it. Though I am sorta wondering why Chloe didn't catch wind of this group back when she was doing her Wall of Weird.

LtColCarter
March 3rd, 2010, 09:15 AM
I liked this episode. And I liked MS's part in it. Though I am sorta wondering why Chloe didn't catch wind of this group back when she was doing her Wall of Weird.

Good question!