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LiliJ
January 3rd, 2010, 04:41 PM
So I noticed no art threads, as of yet... :D Basically, this thread is for art and also general discussion, so if you just want to chat about Dollhouse you can post in here too! :D

Some of my artwork...

Echo:

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/breakingout.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/echofun.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/load.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/hero-1.jpg
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/reddres3.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/dressmask.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/mirror.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/echophone.jpg

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/time.jpg

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/seson2.jpg

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/asleep.jpg


Whiskey/Dr Saunders:

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/whiskeybright.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/innocence.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/wbutterfly.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/wicon.jpg

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/whiskeyep1.jpg

LiliJ
January 3rd, 2010, 04:42 PM
Topher:

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/topherbrink.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/geniusicon.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/filmstriptopher.jpg
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/lightone.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/topher.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/genius.jpg

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/topherminisig.jpg


Other:

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/VERYBRITISH.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/hands.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/love-1.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/team2.jpg
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/watchsimple.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/joy-1.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/bennet.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/sexyseirra.jpg
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/adele.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/sierraflower.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/doll.jpg

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/findme-1.jpg

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/sleepingbeauty.jpg


Everything is snurchable - just let me know and credit please!

Achaja
January 4th, 2010, 12:05 AM
SQUEEEE:D:D:D I knew something was missing in this section:rolleyes::D Good that you started this thread Lili;) How about spoilery artworks, are there any restrictions?

LiliJ
January 4th, 2010, 02:44 AM
Just pop them in spoiler tags if they reveal anything complicated from S2 :) Can't wait to post my challenge icons! :D

Achaja
January 4th, 2010, 04:05 AM
Ok;) Me too!

little spoiler for s2e08
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dollhouse_1.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dollhouse_2.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dollhouse_3.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dollhouse_4.png

http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dollhous4.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dollhouse1.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dollhouse2.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dollhouse3.png

Achaja
January 4th, 2010, 04:05 AM
and more...
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/90d2.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/90d3.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/90d.png
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/oo4.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/oo3.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/oo2.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/oo1.png
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/ddd4.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/ddd3.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/ddd2.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/ddd.png
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/xmm3.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/xmm2.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/xmm1.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/xmm.png

(all are snurchable, credit not needed-just don't claim as you own):)

Lili I'm snurching Echo with vid cam icon, and last whiskey icon for lj, will credit you;)

LiliJ
January 4th, 2010, 07:50 AM
Hehe thanks for letting me know :)

Discussion points...

- Is Echo's fledgling personality really Caroline emerging?
- Why do Sierra and Victor (or Priya and Tony) not stay together? (see Epitaph One)
- Why did Caroline leave Bennett behind trapped? (see The Left Hand)
- How/why does Dr Saunders return to the Dollhouse?
- What part of Paul did Topher have to take away?

(All in spoilers for S2)

SQUEE!! Just found this VERY spoilerish and VERY exciting image... :D

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/Tut%20pics/normal_2x11_004.jpg

And something else to discuss (http://www.tv.com/dollhouse-finally-canceled-what-went-wrong/story/19458.html) that I found when I should have been writing my essays... :P

My opinion...

Dollhouse took a time to gain momentum in the first series and just wasn't gripping enough for an American audience. This sounds really bad, but it's not an insult - the show's structure and style is very similar to that of English scifi.


"But all too often, viewers had to wade through 35 minutes of generic standalone story before getting a nugget of the overall arc, and frankly, TV is too competitive and our attention spans are too short to make this tolerable." (from the above article linked)


If you watch something like Dr Who that's how it's done - standalone eps for most of the series with bits of the arc thrown in, then a finale. It's possible Dollhouse may do better on British TV, but then, it's showing on a terrible timeslot without any publicity :S

IMO, Dollhouse is intelligent and thrilling without being all-action, and perhaps this is the reason for its cancellation. I do agree with point 2 though - that Echo wasn't interesting enough. That and tbh, I really don't like Caroline... :P Echo in S2 just appeals to me more :)

LiliJ
January 4th, 2010, 08:13 AM
More promo images (http://www.bscreview.com/2009/12/dollhouse-getting-closer-the-hollow-men-promo-images/) for Getting Closer and The Hollow Men...

Achaja
January 4th, 2010, 10:42 AM
hmm where to start...:rolleyes:

:eek::eek::eek: I clicked on first spoiler and saw it!!!! omg!omg!omg! *no more I say*:o

About Caroline - neither do I:P Even Echo said lately: sorry spoiler for s2 latest episodes)
I am not Caroline. I'm Echo.
(something like that) she became more Echo, it builded her as a personality, because she's got all this inprints/memories still in her mind.

I also thnk Dollhouse is great, inteligent show, however I must admit that in first half of each season it was hard. Hard to focus, maybe to understand, but it was neccesary to get know whole this "world". And both second halfs were just outstanding! Action, plot, actors' play - all is great! That's why is hard to deal with cancelation.:(

LiliJ
January 4th, 2010, 04:06 PM
I know I know! I love those two - they are hilariously made for each other :D:D *happy* :D

Yeah I don't like Caroline and I think after seeing what Bennett showed her Echo doesn't either. But I'm afraid because it's Eliza's show, and Caroline (methinks) is *Eliza* (or at least HER character in that she created her) it will end up with Echo becoming Caroline independently or something :mckay:

Which I don't want. I think there are small differences (*small voice* and if Whedon had independently have written this show Echo would have been way more different to Caroline) and they are important. Caroline just strikes me as v whiney and annoying. Of course the fact that the whole reason for the start of her (later justified) vendetta against Rossum was the fact that they tested on animals for medical research.

...

Yeah, if companies and hospitals didn't do that people would DIE. I know several members of my family would be dead if it weren't for animal testing.

:mckay:

Anyway, Dollhouse rules :):)

Fave ep?

LiliJ
January 4th, 2010, 04:08 PM
:eek: Just realised I didn't post this icon... :)

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/oneofakind-1.jpg

:love:

Achaja
January 5th, 2010, 10:24 AM
oh! very pretty icon Lili:rolleyes:

As for the favourite episode, this far "Love supreme" :D
...and all with Alpha:o

but also these with Mellie/but from season 1. Yours?

LiliJ
January 5th, 2010, 01:11 PM
Yeah I loved November... And I like how they made Madeline have a nice edge which was a nice difference to Mellie. And I'm intruiged by what's mentioned about her in Epitaph One...



Victor/Tony: What about November?
Sierra/Priya: Which one?

Hmm.... :P

I do also love Alpha - Alan Tudyk is such a spectacular actor! :)

Achaja
January 6th, 2010, 05:44 AM
The end of season 1 was for me a bit complicated, I guess I need to rewatch it to better understand:rolleyes::o

Eliza (from Luci's tut)
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/elizadushku.jpg

LiliJ
January 6th, 2010, 05:58 AM
Yeah you should - Epitaph One is my fave ep :D And gorgeous siggy! Good use of the tut :D

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/echodangertext.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/echodanger.jpg

Achaja
January 6th, 2010, 06:10 AM
thank you! love your new avi, great icons:D

LiliJ
January 9th, 2010, 07:36 AM
Wow.

Just... wow.

Getting Closer:


- Whiskey's a sleeper?!
- Not Bennett!!!!!!!
- Wtf is up with Boyd?!
- Paul doesn't love Echo any more :(
- What was the big plan with Caroline?!
- Is it a resistance or Rossum?

Soooo can't wait for next week! Why must they torture us so??

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/bennett.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/remember.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/helpsmudge.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/forget.jpg

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/alphasig.jpg


Best lines of this week's ep:



Caroline: Bet she can kill me with her brain.
(Joke referring to Summer's character in Firefly. Because River says that at one point - "also... I can kill you with my brain".)

Topher: I've always had a crush on you. Even when I thought you were a dude. (pause) This is better.

:D

LiliJ
January 12th, 2010, 09:38 AM
More arties :D

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/priya.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/everything-2.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/notcrazy.jpg
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/LJ%20Contests/stoptree4.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/LJ%20Contests/stoploss1.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/LJ%20Contests/stoploss2.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/LJ%20Contests/stoploss3.jpg

And from the latest episode... :D

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/btresistanceround.jpg

Achaja
January 12th, 2010, 01:04 PM
oh pretty pretty!^^ I like the most 1st, 2nd & 4th:D //perfect sharpnes on the sig:rolleyes:

and guess what?:D I've watched latest episode yesterday...without subtitles:P lol...partly understood...but for today I've already have them! so we can talk tomorrow:D lol

and imagine: I;ve posted icons for the challenge and they're gone so I had to ask moderators and post it once again. I'm quite pleased with two:rolleyes: *wants to show already but can't*:P:D

LiliJ
January 12th, 2010, 01:09 PM
I know!! I always want to show before I can.

And yay you finally saw it!!!!!!! Soooooo good!! :D Can't wait to discuss :D

Achaja
January 13th, 2010, 06:58 AM
Getting Closer:


- Whiskey's a sleeper?! - yeah weird, but shouldn't there be some kind of word ativating her? She act like in total anger, I don't know. Kind of dubble agent maybe?
- Not Bennett!!!!!!! - ohh it was shocking! But I love the way it was. Cool, but sorry for Bennett:(
- Wtf is up with Boyd?! Now is going to be interesting! How's it possible this memory of him didn't survive in Caroline (maybe I'm missing something...this whole Caroline story is too complicated for me. So Echo didn't have Caroline in her mind ever after making her a doll?? Alpha didn't inprint her all?
- Paul doesn't love Echo any more :( That's how it should be!:P I ship Paul/Mellie:P Alpha/Echo:P lol Maybe he will need time to trust her once again
- What was the big plan with Caroline?! I guess Echo felt that Caroline knows something about Rossum - this secret with Boyd (something more) Caroline fought with Rossum, maybe it was the key to get this case done?
- Is it a resistance or Rossum? Honestly I'm lost:P


Best lines of this week's ep IMO:

- Damn. I just had that replaced. (Adelle about windows)
hrhrhr:D

Oh do you remeber the guy they ended inprinting real personalities to? The black guy who thought 5 years already passed but Topher laughted that only few days passed? This guy is Eliza Dushku's BF <<lookie>> (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/12/22/dollhouse-eliza-dushku-rick-fox/)

LiliJ
January 13th, 2010, 03:27 PM
Getting Closer:


- Whiskey's a sleeper?! - yeah weird, but shouldn't there be some kind of word ativating her? She act like in total anger, I don't know. Kind of dubble agent maybe?
- Not Bennett!!!!!!! - ohh it was shocking! But I love the way it was. Cool, but sorry for Bennett:(
- Wtf is up with Boyd?! Now is going to be interesting! How's it possible this memory of him didn't survive in Caroline (maybe I'm missing something...this whole Caroline story is too complicated for me. So Echo didn't have Caroline in her mind ever after making her a doll?? Alpha didn't inprint her all?
- Paul doesn't love Echo any more :( That's how it should be!:P I ship Paul/Mellie:P Alpha/Echo:P lol Maybe he will need time to trust her once again
- What was the big plan with Caroline?! I guess Echo felt that Caroline knows something about Rossum - this secret with Boyd (something more) Caroline fought with Rossum, maybe it was the key to get this case done?
- Is it a resistance or Rossum? Honestly I'm lost:P



- Yeah, she did seem to flip pretty quickly... Odd.

- Poor Topher!!! His reaction... So lovably tragic. "Don't become me".... *dies* :P

- BOYD IS HEAD OF ROSSUM!!! *dies again* I had serious problems getting my head around this one!

- I shipped same... But then I grew to like Echo and her vendetta agains Caroline, specifically the Paul/Caroline ship :D (Because that ship to me not only felt forced, but like Eliza was saying "I want my character to be amazing and have the lead guy fall in love without even knowing her". Plus Echo had to work in the first place to get him to love her. Now it just seems pointless :( Explains the line in Epitaph One though:

Dr S: it's good to see you and Paul together.
Echo or Caroline (we still don't know!): the jury's still out on that one.
Always figured that meant SHE hadn't decided yet. Now, methinks tis the other way around...

- Ah, I meant Rossum (aka Boyd and Clyde 2.0's plan). Remember at the end of the ep Boyd was talking about this plan they had for her? I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THIS IS!! It's hinted that it was planned for Echo to become Echo (with all of her imprints remembered).

- The last point was me being dense. I hadn't realised at that point that Boyd was head of Rossum. I thought maybe it was a resistance from within. Still a possibility, though...


Ah, Whedon, you are god *worships* :P


Oh do you remeber the guy they ended inprinting real personalities to? The black guy who thought 5 years already passed but Topher laughted that only few days passed? This guy is Eliza Dushku's BF <<lookie>> (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/12/22/dollhouse-eliza-dushku-rick-fox/)

Ah! I kept seeing this mentioned - I thought he was Clyde 2.0 (much hotter :P)

Another great Adelle quote from the ep...


"Well, I think we can safely say this carpet's done for."

I love her! She is the epitome of Britishness :D:D

Achaja
January 14th, 2010, 02:59 AM
Yeah, Whedon's mind is great! my little mind is poor and confused:o:P

Hahaha! Yeah I like these lines too:lol: Whole Adelle! Do you remeber an icon from previous challenge - "One Woman Army" it was well said!:D

Final episode is getting closer but instead of answers we are more and more surprised by unexpected events!

LiliJ
January 14th, 2010, 05:20 AM
Happy to inform you - not the last episode! The penultimate (or official last) is Hollow Men, tomorrow at 9pm American time. Then of course there's Epitaph Two: Return, which is the week after :)

Adelle is pretty awesome, and yes I thought that icon was fitting!

Other great quotes (http://www.tvfanatic.com/quotes/characters/adelle-dewitt/)...

Achaja
January 14th, 2010, 06:47 AM
i know I know there's two episodes left:rolleyes:

hahaha great quotes:D:D:D

LiliJ
January 14th, 2010, 02:06 PM
I got confused with your sentence - you said getting closer but I thought you meant the episode! :o

Achaja
January 14th, 2010, 02:13 PM
Uhmmm...it doesn't matter!:o
We're close to the final and it's getting more and more interesting:)

LiliJ
January 14th, 2010, 04:43 PM
i know! He's such a genius - I'm going to miss Dollhouse so much! I actually can't remember a time I enjoyed a show this much :D (Apart from maybe Firefly, but it wasn't as suspenseful :))

LiliJ
January 16th, 2010, 01:14 PM
Wow! Not quite as good as Getting Closer, but still very good :D

More unanswered questions...


- If Boyd was only a doll, who is the founder? Will we ever find out? Was he like Clyde, in that he repented and got sent to the attic?
- How does Whiskey get out of the Rossum building and back into the Dollhouse?
- Will Paul ever love Echo again?
- If Rossum was destroyed, who messed with Topher's tech to bring on the "thought-pocolypse"?

Tbh I didn't enjoy this episode as much as some of the others, like Stop Loss, The Attic and Getting Closer, but am very much looking forward to Epitaph Two! One was my favourite episode of S1, and I'm very much hoping that Two will wrap up the series well, perhaps being a Serenity-esque finale? :D

Also heard that Alpha's going to return, really want to know what his part in it all is :)

Amalthea
January 16th, 2010, 02:01 PM
Spoilers for 2x12

Boyd wasn't a doll. Topher zapped him with his "Anyone can be wiped and turned into a Doll without sitting in the chair" device. Rossum wasn't destroyed either, just that lab. The rest of the building was still standing. There is no reason to think that they didn't back up their data elsewhere thus causing the Thoughtpocolypse. As for Whiskey and the love story, I guess we wait and see!

LiliJ
January 16th, 2010, 03:35 PM
I had to rewatch that part to make sure, but you're right! Well spotted :D

Boyd was a bit screwed up though, wasn't he? He seemed to be a genuinely nice guy, with the things he's done in the past, such as help Sierra in "Man on the Street", but on the other hand we've got the whole founder of Rossum thing. Very odd...

On another note... :D

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/adelle.jpg

And made from Rachel-Kree's old tut (http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=9991317&postcount=706)...

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/echomask.jpg

The text is from Hurricane, a song by 30 Seconds to Mars. I heard these lyrics:


No matter how many deaths I die I will never forget;
No matter how many lifes I lead I will never regret

And just thought they fitted Echo so well :D

Achaja
January 17th, 2010, 02:12 PM
Perfect sigs Lili!!! I can't believe how perfectly you've made them:D kiss*kiss*

I didn't see the newest epy yet:o

LiliJ
January 17th, 2010, 04:31 PM
Thanks! :D And watch it!!! :P

Lol our sigs match! Yours by Rachel-Kree and mine imitating it :P

Achaja
January 18th, 2010, 03:14 AM
:D
I must wait for the subtitles:o

In the meantime:
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Achaja
January 18th, 2010, 03:14 AM
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LiliJ
January 18th, 2010, 06:11 AM
Gorgeous stuff! Ah, that Topher one.... I snurched that looong ago :P

My recent ones...

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/LJ%20Contests/novemberescapetext.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/LJ%20Contests/alphablueanother.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/LJ%20Contests/psychotic.jpg

Achaja
January 18th, 2010, 02:25 PM
I like these^^

LiliJ
January 19th, 2010, 12:32 PM
Me too :P

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/bennettpretty.jpg

Plus av :) Love Summer as Bennett. I'm actually modelling the character of Mephistopheles (Dr Faustus, Marlowe play) on her! M is traditionally male, but my concept involves her being female, and Bennett fits perfectly! Sweet, nerdy, shy yet fierce about her work, and slightly psychotic! :D

Achaja
January 19th, 2010, 01:31 PM
Oh sounds interesting:rolleyes: Love your sig and avi - for me Benett is just so cute and extremely genius:D
Too bad that she didn't understand that Caroline left her to protect her, or maybe she just want "to work" with Caroline agains Rossum to the end that's why she was mad at her...hmm...

LiliJ
January 19th, 2010, 03:40 PM
It is interesting... I think that she knew why Caroline left her, but resented her for it. Because it made her seem weak, not worth trusting, not a partner, not a real friend. This got warped in her brain as the years passed and she worked for Rossum (thus being exposed to their propoganda), leading her to blame Caroline for her arm.

It's interesting how memory can work. If you get an idea in your head, your memories mould to fit that idea. I think that's what happened with Bennett.

If you're interested, Mephistopheles is also the Devil's second in command. I forgot to mention this! :P We're experimenting with her being in love with Faustus. Tis interesting!

LiliJ
January 19th, 2010, 05:26 PM
After seeing Getting Closer again... (:P)

I think it was also to do with the fact that she had never had a real friend before (see hair scene), and also that in the first place when she discovered Caroline had been using her she was hurt that Caroline hadn't told her and asked for her help (see confrontation scene). Then when Caroline left her it must have felt like abandonment, like she wasn't good enough to be her partner, like Caroline did just use her to get in.

Getting off this subject... :P

What did you think of the last ep? I wasn't impressed tbh :(

Achaja
January 20th, 2010, 02:30 AM
Spoiler for 2x12 |
I also think it wasn't the best episode, quite "weak" (all these "family" & Boyd's crazyness issues...:S)

- What I like in this episode was Paul, Anthony (for the first time I saw hot guy in him - did you see the sparkles in Adelle's eyes when she saw him?:D//poor Mellie - but it was great done!

- Now I think Paul/Echo happy ending is more possible (see:the end of the episode, they stick together) I think they'll be together;)

- I think the Rossum will rise up, remeber when Clair/this Rossum guy told he has many different bodies waitin for him, his inprint. The corporation is too smart to have all the tech in this one lab they've destroyed. There'll be more problems to end with it completly:rolleyes:

- the episode was funny, I laughted a lot:D
I miss Alpha! He's such a smart bad-ass where is he?? He should be very important part of the battle

Getting Closer-
yeah I think you're right, Benett could felt like worse part of the conspiracy, maybe weaker. But Echo did it to protect her, not to hurt her feelings or their relationship. However it hurted.:(


Hrhrhr so Faustus will be in troubles!:D

LiliJ
January 20th, 2010, 08:42 AM
Hollow Men...


- Yeah, the Boyd thing felt very weak. If they were going to go the crazy route they could have done way more with it. I still don't know what's going on with Boyd...

- Oooh i fell in love with Anthony in Stop Loss! :D Because he wasn't just a one-dimensional character, or too similar to any imprints. He had a really unique character :D

- Mellie was sad... But it was done well. The flowers thing was wrong (intentionally?) though. I'm pretty sure it was originally yellow...

- I don't see there's any way they can't be, given that Eliza plays Echo :P

- Rossum is definately not beaten. Few continuity errors though - like in Epitaph One all the actives are back in the Dollhouse. But after what the team did in Tuscon, I don't see how Rossum would let the LA Dollhouse continue running...

Alpha should have been involved in the last episode. It would have made the plot awesome to have him in as a twist :D

Amalthea
January 20th, 2010, 12:22 PM
Hollow Men...


- Yeah, the Boyd thing felt very weak. If they were going to go the crazy route they could have done way more with it. I still don't know what's going on with Boyd...

- Oooh i fell in love with Anthony in Stop Loss! :D Because he wasn't just a one-dimensional character, or too similar to any imprints. He had a really unique character :D

- Mellie was sad... But it was done well. The flowers thing was wrong (intentionally?) though. I'm pretty sure it was originally yellow...

- I don't see there's any way they can't be, given that Eliza plays Echo :P

- Rossum is definately not beaten. Few continuity errors though - like in Epitaph One all the actives are back in the Dollhouse. But after what the team did in Tuscon, I don't see how Rossum would let the LA Dollhouse continue running...

Alpha should have been involved in the last episode. It would have made the plot awesome to have him in as a twist :D

Hollow Men

The flower thing wasn't wrong because Boyd played the security footage of Mellie kicking butt since DeWitt wouldn't say the words herself.

I think we'll see next week how the rest of Epitaph One fits in to the greater picture. I have faith!

LiliJ
January 20th, 2010, 03:59 PM
Again, I didn't notice this! I still think there are continuity errors though... :S It's probably because it's all so rushed. I would have loved to have seen some of the plot things develop - especially with Boyd. And also Bennett and Topher's relationship! That could have been really fun, with them trying to sabotage each other :D

LiliJ
January 20th, 2010, 05:38 PM
I'd forgotten this - Alpha uses the technology to turn dolls into killers in A Love Supreme. Did he invent it?! I think so. So how did Rossum get their hands on this part of the tech (that leads to Epitaph)?

So Topher invents and assembles the turning-anyone-into-a-doll-mind-wipe tech. This plus Alpha's phone remote wipe and his killer tech = thoughtpocalypse :)

EDIT: hmmm (still watching LS) might just be remote imprinting. Still, I like to think Alpha was involved. Mostly cos I want him in the plotline! :P

Replicator Todd
January 21st, 2010, 12:41 PM
I got Season 1 of Dollhouse on DVD and I gotta say, I absolutely ADORE this show! I will watch the Season 2 episodes that are left to support the show but for the previous ones I'm going to wait for the DVD.

LiliJ
January 21st, 2010, 12:49 PM
I have to watch them online :( Stupid terristrial channels in England won't show it! I must say, people slate S1, and though S2 is better, I do love S1 :D

Arts...

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/caroline1.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/caroline2.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/geek2.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/geek1.jpg

And a siggy. Design by Achaja *hugs*

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/geek.jpg

Achaja
January 21st, 2010, 02:37 PM
Oh and we forgot to mention how fantastic Anthony (I mean the actor) played Topher again:D:D:D

IMO it's Alpha who seems to be "allmighty" person in this show, I expected him to be the solution for all these issues with Rossum. Or maybe not...he's rather psychopath, a genius one:rolleyes:

Lovely artworks Lili:D cute pic with Benett^^

LiliJ
January 21st, 2010, 05:01 PM
Omg he is sooo good! Watched Briar Rose today with sis and marvelled at how well he played Dominic. He is just so talented! :D Hehe would have been funny to see Victor/Tony's love for Priya through Topher (as all Victor's imprints are in love with her)... :P

Yeah I think Alpha is such an amazing character (not only character wise but plot wise too) who was really under-used this season. I would have loved there to have been a twist in Hollow Men involving Alpha, maybe them needing his help? *sigh*

And thanks - that pic is just so cute! :o

LiliJ
January 22nd, 2010, 08:38 AM
I forgot to mention this! The biggest thing that bugged me about Hollow Men...

All the way through S2, Echo has been becoming self aware. And then after The Left Hand and during Jane Doe Echo realises that she doesn't like Caroline. And of course there's all that she says in Getting Closer. And there's this big build up to "what's going to happen when Caroline gets dumped in there?" And then...

Nothing happens.

She goes nuts, but only because Boyd drugs her. Then Echo is just like normal, but with Caroline's memories.

Is that what Bennett did? It wasn't very clear - did they only restore her memories rather than the personality because the wedge was so damaged?

Even if that were so, I think that's a missed opportunity. The whole Echo vs Caroline thing could have been awesome, and I for one was looking forward to how it worked out. Would they be at odds? Would they reconcile? Would it turn out that actually Echo was Caroline, just minus the history?

It might be that that was what they were aiming for, but if so they didn't make it clear at all. *sigh*

Achaja
January 22nd, 2010, 12:29 PM
Yeah I have to agree with you Lili!
We missed this part what had happend to Echo after this imprint. Firstly the tension grows and I guess the Boyd issue caused that we didn't focuse on her with Caroline inside her mind anymore. Maybe that would be solved in next episode? Maybe it was caused because on Season cut? If Whedon planned something bigger and interesting with it maybe he was forced to quit it by throwing attention on something else, on the ending itself:S

LiliJ
January 22nd, 2010, 01:54 PM
Yeah, that's certainly possible. Still, even with the season being ended early, they could have made the last episode much better. And the Boyd thing wasn't handled well either! *sigh*

LiliJ
January 27th, 2010, 01:26 PM
Mostly arts, some talk :D

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/tbfuzztext.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/IINTEAM.jpg
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/thewoods.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/tophergreen.jpg

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/vssurvivors.jpg

So what was everyone's favourite moment of the series? Mine has to be in Man on the Street when Echo is Rebecca and she's convinced Joel Mynor bought their new house with dirty money.


Rebecca: (passing the bedroom and seeing the rose petal-strewn bed) Porn!!

Hehe great moment :D

EDIT: two icons to go with my siggie...

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/bwfoundme.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/bwfoundmetext.jpg

Achaja
January 27th, 2010, 03:00 PM
Beautiful stuff Lili:)

Yeah, this was good moment:rolleyes::D

My the best moment was with Alpha and medicinal carrots:

Alpha: Carrots! Uh, medicinal carrots. Personal use, medicinal carrots that were here when I moved in and I'm holding it for a friend!
:lol:
but also many with Adelle, especially latest ones, when she's so ironic:D

also hot moments between Paul & Mellie http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/liebe/s020.gif it was too good to be true...*sniff sniff*

- the truth about Priya was touching, very good episode

LiliJ
January 27th, 2010, 03:30 PM
Ah yes, that is an awesome quote! :D Again, Alpha is such a good character... *sigh*

Paul/Mellie was adorable :D But I loved how Mellie wasn't the typical sweet girl - she turned out to be strong and passionate while being grounded :D

On another topic... I really think Eliza underplayed the Echo/Caroline potential. Drastically. In fact it's quite painful to watch as an actress! :S She had the chance to create two leading ladies, both great characters, with the audience wondering which to like best. Despite the script (eg: Jane Doe when Echo argues that she's not Caroline) Eliza didn't make them different enough (in fact all of her characters lack distinction). Maybe she was going for the whole "same person" angle, but if so that was underwritten and wasn't made clear (which is odd seeing as that seemed to be what the whole series was about).

Wow that sounds really nasty! I don't intend to be :) It's just that sometimes I watch Dichen Lachman (Sierra) or Enver Gjokaj (Victor) and they kinda show Eliza up a bit (because their characters are very different from each other) :o

LiliJ
January 27th, 2010, 07:26 PM
...what? Lili's writing a fic? FANfic for Dollhouse, you say?
:P

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/adelle-1.jpg (http://delta-mai.livejournal.com/5647.html)

^this way if you're interested^

:D

Plus - lookie what I found :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS-yU1q4dAk

Amalthea
January 27th, 2010, 08:09 PM
I can't believe it's all going to be over in 2 days! The previews have me very excited for how it's all going to go down.

LiliJ
January 28th, 2010, 02:36 AM
3 days for me :( And poor Achaja has to wait until it's translated! So gonna miss this series... What am I gonna get excited about now?! :P

I hope all the questions are answered in Epitaph Two! Because it's so painful to watch Firefly knowing that all the little plot seeds will never grow... :(

After watching a preview.... So in love with Topher in this ep already :D Although the voiceover did just sound like Topher taking the p*ss out of voiceovers in Haunted... Which kind of ruined the whole doomsday effect! :P

Achaja
January 28th, 2010, 01:47 PM
Ah yes, that is an awesome quote! :D Again, Alpha is such a good character... *sigh*

Paul/Mellie was adorable :D But I loved how Mellie wasn't the typical sweet girl - she turned out to be strong and passionate while being grounded :D

On another topic... I really think Eliza underplayed the Echo/Caroline potential. Drastically. In fact it's quite painful to watch as an actress! :S She had the chance to create two leading ladies, both great characters, with the audience wondering which to like best. Despite the script (eg: Jane Doe when Echo argues that she's not Caroline) Eliza didn't make them different enough (in fact all of her characters lack distinction). Maybe she was going for the whole "same person" angle, but if so that was underwritten and wasn't made clear (which is odd seeing as that seemed to be what the whole series was about).

Wow that sounds really nasty! I don't intend to be :) It's just that sometimes I watch Dichen Lachman (Sierra) or Enver Gjokaj (Victor) and they kinda show Eliza up a bit (because their characters are very different from each other) :oI have to agree with you, Lili, Eliza is playing Echo the same as Caroline. I remember first Caroline moments, she was the same fighter, has own secrets, see and understand more than we, who are watching (you know what I mean). I have to admit I'm watching from time to time Tru Calling in TV and Eliza is still the same person, comparing to Dollhouse(I mean she didn't change since TC). Although I like her as an actress, she seems quite exotic to me when I saw her first time, she has specific kind of beauty:)

And Yeah, November kicks a$$:D Enver Gjokaj shown us great acting skills, playing crazy Topher:D


3 days for me :( And poor Achaja has to wait until it's translated! So gonna miss this series... What am I gonna get excited about now?! :P

I hope all the questions are answered in Epitaph Two! Because it's so painful to watch Firefly knowing that all the little plot seeds will never grow... :(

After watching a preview.... So in love with Topher in this ep already :D Although the voiceover did just sound like Topher taking the p*ss out of voiceovers in Haunted... Which kind of ruined the whole doomsday effect! :P Hrhrhr thanks Lili^^ yeah I'll have to wait but this time maybe not so long, I wont be online for weekend so...when I'll be back subtitles should already be ready:D

And Lili writting a Fic? Cool banner, I'm going to read it now!:):):)

LiliJ
January 28th, 2010, 03:54 PM
I have to agree with you, Lili, Eliza is playing Echo the same as Caroline. I remember first Caroline moments, she was the same fighter, has own secrets, see and understand more than we, who are watching (you know what I mean). I have to admit I'm watching from time to time Tru Calling in TV and Eliza is still the same person, comparing to Dollhouse(I mean she didn't change since TC). Although I like her as an actress, she seems quite exotic to me when I saw her first time, she has specific kind of beauty:)

Ahhhh, twas as I thought. I divide actors into two catagories: reactive and active.

Reactive: can portray natural and truthful emotions, and depth of character. Talent is limited to playing one character (normally similar to real personality) or variants thereof.
Notable actors in this catagory: Hugh Grant, Kiera Knightley, Orlando Bloom.

Active: ditto with the reactions, emotions and depth of character. However, can differentiate between a wide range of different characters, giving them all unique personalities and reavealing so through body, voice and reactions. When this is done perfectly they achieve what I call the Recognition Paradox in their audience - when the viewer sees the actor playing a character they find it hard recall anything but that character until the actor plays another role (when they will be totally different).
Notable actors in this catagory - Edward Norton, Tom Hanks, Helena Bonham Carter.

I'm not just making this up (to some extent :P) - I've studied drama for years and had it drilled into me soooo much what makes a good actor! But all this is opinion, of course :) And Reactive actors aren't bad - my best friend is a spectacular actress but she's mostly Reactive.


Hrhrhr thanks Lili^^ yeah I'll have to wait but this time maybe not so long, I wont be online for weekend so...when I'll be back subtitles should already be ready:D

And Lili writting a Fic? Cool banner, I'm going to read it now!:):):)

No Achaja?! :eek: :( And thanks :)

LiliJ
January 31st, 2010, 09:21 AM
Everyone's opinions of Epitaph Two? :D

And arts..

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/peek.jpg

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/dichenbanner.jpg

Achaja
February 3rd, 2010, 02:44 AM
Wheee I saw it!I saw it!:D

THIS.WAS.THE.BEST.EPISODE.OF.ALL!!!:D:D:D

Song from the ending:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKLS3LtDF-o
I love all the songs that were at endings in Dollhouse, just in my taste:rolleyes:

Epitah 2 spoilers
- It was wonderful! Long time I didn't see such good episode!
- The Tony & Priya issue was very clever, not naive and too sweet, it was very real
- Yay Alpha & Bennett:D I was surpriced by Alpha's help
- Topher- omg he looks so hot in this hair cut!! Not like boy but like man:D:samanime51: and he was funny to the end *poor Topher*
- Adelle was like mother, cute!
- I LOVE the Echo/Paul ending, very touching! *sniff sniff*

Best quote:

Topher - Tired? Bedtime!
his smile:rolleyes::D

LiliJ
February 3rd, 2010, 04:17 PM
Wheee I saw it!I saw it!:

THIS.WAS.THE.BEST.EPISODE.OF.ALL!!
Song from the ending:
[-o[/video]
I love all the songs that were at endings in Dollhouse, just in my taste:rolleyes:

Epitah 2 spoilers
- It was wonderful! Long time I didn't see such good episode!
- The Tony & Priya issue was very clever, not naive and too sweet, it was very real
- Yay Alpha & Bennett:D I was surpriced by Alpha's help
- Topher- omg he looks so hot in this hair cut!! Not like boy but like man:D:samanime51: and he was funny to the end *poor Topher*
- Adelle was like mother, cute!
- I LOVE the Echo/Paul ending, very touching! *sniff sniff*

Best quote:

his smile:rolleyes::D

Pretty cool huh! And yeah, Fran Kranz totally stole the show. His acting was perfect - so tragic! *sobs some more* Seriously, about 20 minutes in I started crying and couldn't stop. Like I said, I may not like Eliza's acting too much, but her grief scene was amazing :)

Oh yay song links! I'm so loving this new video option! :D


- I loved how he handled Tony/Priya. I was so afraid he would be typical evil!Joss, but he was nice :D And T was so cute! That scene "I want you to meet your dad" was so cute! And Tony: "hi, I'm Anthony but you can call me Tony" - ADORABLE.

- Aw Topher watching Bennett! And the way he put his finger to her lips at the end: "thank you". *sobs*

- I loved Alpha in this episode. I mean, he was totally thunkable before, but kinda fell in love with him :D Plus Alan Tudyk rules. Achaja - WATCH FIREFLY! :P

- Topher: there are no words to describe his awesomeness and tragicness in this ep. *attempts not to sob, but fails*

- Adelle was lovely. I love how she went from Uptight-B*tch-with-a-soft-side to Evil-B*tch to Humble-Lovely-Maternal-Figure :D

- The ending was so Joss! Tragic but kinda happy. Tbh that scene slayed me perhaps the most. It's so sad that he's just in her head! :(

Best quote:


Zone: so what do you have to take out to shove all that in?
Kilo *holds up a memory stick marked "mercy" and grins wickedly*

:D Ok, that's not technically a quote, but I loved it! :D

Unanswered questions:



- What the hell happened to Dominic? We had that teaser in the previous Epitaph, and then he just gets ignored :mckay:
- Will Rossum just start all over again? Will they now be able to take control of this damaged world?
- Is Alpha now his original serial killer self or did he "evolve" enough?
- Will Kilo and Mag get together? (I hope so :D)

There were more but I forgot :( :P

All in all an amazing episode! And as the file for Epitaph Two pictures is now the biggest of all my Dollhouse folders, expect some art soon!!

Achaja
February 4th, 2010, 09:46 AM
I agree with you, this was darn good piece of acting! All of them played great but also the roles were well written for the ending.

- Paul/Echo issue was surprising, but so carefuly written:rolleyes: so sweet^^
- I love when Tony & T were burning stuff together:D:D:D^^

Haven't you got the feeling it was directed before S2?:S I've got such feeling. Maybe few scenes only?

Yeah, wonder what will happen with Alpha:rolleyes: Also what is interesting, how he menage to stay "good" at the end...he was unpredictable...he was overloaded! but I guess the situation required it from him, to cooperate to survive.

LiliJ
February 4th, 2010, 05:17 PM
Alpha = love! Esp in this ep :D I totally love what Joss did with his character :D

And hmmm.... Nah, I think that Epitaph Two was done after S2, because I reckon Joss had to make major changes to the plot because the show was cancelled (re watching S1 there are lots of hints to plots that never happened).

EDIT: another fave line from the episode...


Kilo: (after Echo kicked her arse) She is so cool!

Love it! :D

Achaja
February 5th, 2010, 01:34 AM
:lol: this was good^^

I guess you're right. Don't know why I thought so:rolleyes: The actors seems to look different. (and I know they had to- because it was few years later in the plot) but still...Alan was as slim as in S1:rolleyes: ...nevermind:P

Ahhh latest icons!:
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dl_1.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dl_2.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dl_3.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dl_4.png

LiliJ
February 5th, 2010, 07:03 AM
Beautiful icons!! Here's mine plus some new ones. And watch this space because I have about a million caps and plan to make loooads of Epitaph 2 arts :D:D

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/geeklove.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/hiding.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/hidingred.jpg
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/LJ%20Contests/adoreyou.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/LJ%20Contests/whiskeyclyde.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/LJ%20Contests/enemies.jpg

And my fave Dollhouse ones from my entries for Whedon20in20...

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/jtadore.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/ftw.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/sleepers.jpg

EDIT: told ya :P

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/remember-1.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/priyablue.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/mag.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/letmeintext.jpg

Achaja
February 5th, 2010, 01:55 PM
thanks and yours are also great! "to remeber" & "let me in" are just incredible *sniff sniff*:rolleyes:

I was trying to make some too, but end only with these:o:
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/sierra.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/sierra2.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/victor.png

http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/sierra-1.jpg

LiliJ
February 5th, 2010, 03:13 PM
They're awesome! How did you get that dotty effect? :D

Achaja
February 5th, 2010, 03:51 PM
I made it with this tutorial (http://www.tutorialized.com/view/tutorial/Cartoon-Effect-Photoshop-Tutorial/53055) for PS but don't know if it would be helpful. thanks!

Achaja
February 15th, 2010, 02:43 AM
Latest icons:
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dh_epi2_1.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dh_epi2_2.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dh_epi2_3.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dh_epi2_4.png

LiliJ
February 15th, 2010, 07:19 AM
I LOVED those :D So pretty :)

Achaja
February 15th, 2010, 11:03 AM
thankies:D And where are yours, huh?:rolleyes:
dang it, it's so hard to win in that challenge:P

LiliJ
February 15th, 2010, 03:20 PM
TELL ME! *sigh* Ah well. I had fun making the icons anyway! :)

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/LJ%20Contests/priyaechocircle.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/LJ%20Contests/grief.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/LJ%20Contests/familyframe.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/LJ%20Contests/broken.jpg

The first one's effect was achieved by a white circle brush and some blending, the texture in the second one was made by the awesome Jumble :D And the colouring in the last one was a complete accident I haven't been able to reproduce!

Achaja
February 16th, 2010, 07:25 AM
these looks really great! Cool composition with circle, great light effect on second one - pretty, pretty!:rolleyes:

LiliJ
February 19th, 2010, 12:21 PM
Thanks hun :D

Btw rewatched Left Hand t'other day and may have worked out the whole Bennett/Caroline thing. In Bennett's memory she didn't hear Caroline say "I'll make sure it's just me" (as opposed to "I stay we both get nabed", etc)

Achaja
February 19th, 2010, 01:51 PM
Oh that would make sense...yeah, and we both was wondering why Bennett didn't understand that Caroline sacrificed- it was so obvious! So she didn't hear her...:rolleyes:

LiliJ
February 19th, 2010, 05:38 PM
I know! Lol, we were working out all these complicated reasons... Simplicity is genius though :P

Btw I'm doing Topher and Bennett for my scifipair20in20 :D Tis really hard - not enought variation in the pics! :S

Achaja
February 20th, 2010, 05:50 AM
oh really? That's cool!!! Oh believe me I know it's hard, and T/B even more yeah. But you know that 5 icons can have only one person on it? ;)

LiliJ
February 20th, 2010, 05:52 AM
I DID NOT KNOW THIS! That makes everything sooo much easier... If only I had known sooner! :P Ah well, still got 10 to go! :S

Achaja
February 20th, 2010, 05:58 AM
hrhrhr, yeah, sometimes it's hard to find fitting scene, sometimes themes don't match to your couple, but this time, when I took Daniel/Vala the themes were great for me :D

LiliJ
February 20th, 2010, 03:08 PM
Yours are awesome! I'm still unhappy with my style though :(

Achaja
February 20th, 2010, 03:39 PM
why, you shouldn't be! You made huge progress lately in quite short time, you should be proud of yourself! Your icons are on high level Lili, seriously!:)
;)

LiliJ
February 20th, 2010, 06:47 PM
Aw shucks.... *blushes* :P :D I'll post them as soon as i'm done - only 5 to go now! :D

Achaja
March 17th, 2010, 01:09 PM
Lili you should post your latest icons, especially when they won:D

Did you see new Dollhouse icontest on LJ? The subject is to focus on Adelle, I already made 3 icons, can't wait to show them here:D:P;)

Achaja
March 29th, 2010, 02:19 PM
Ok so here they are, Adelle icons:
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/adelle1.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/adelle2.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/adelle3.png

LiliJ
March 31st, 2010, 11:03 AM
I adore these! May have to snurch... :P

Achaja
March 31st, 2010, 11:07 AM
:) glad you like :)

Achaja
April 20th, 2010, 11:28 AM
Icons from "drinking" challenge:
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dolly1.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dolly2.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dolly3.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dolly4.png

LiliJ
April 22nd, 2010, 03:47 AM
OMG I MADE A SLURP ICON LIKE THAT!!

When I saw it I was like "wow, great minds think alike". No wonder, cos it was yours!! :D:D

Gorgeous icons btw :) I love the Bennett one :)

Achaja
April 22nd, 2010, 04:09 AM
really?:D That's cool, so we think alike:):):):) Thanks Lili! <3

LiliJ
April 22nd, 2010, 06:23 AM
Well, we are both awesome. It goes with the territory :P

I need to do some more Dollhouse art! I've got so wrapped up in SPN... And I think I've improved since I last did DH icons :) Any requests? :D

Achaja
April 22nd, 2010, 06:34 AM
I agree, you improve a lot! I guess your best friend is passion, as we can see now your love to SPN:D

You know, I'm in hunger of Firefly artworks, I remember you made few, must check your stuff...as for Dollhouse...I'm still at this LJ challenge, now is quite difficult one, with negative space, it took me some time to practice it:o:P I would love to see Adelle, Bennett and Alpha the most:D

LiliJ
April 22nd, 2010, 07:01 AM
Well along with Topher those are my fave characters :D and yeah, I need to do some more Firefly stuff. It's just really hard to get good quality caps. I like doing Serenity arts though - did a whole load of River ones a while back! My River file is my largest artwork folder :P

Yeah, I do tend to get passionate about stuff :) It's a gift and a curse!

Maybe I'll try the new challenge... I'm interested in the negative space stuff and I think I need to practice that.

Achaja
April 22nd, 2010, 07:42 AM
Yeah, I noticed the quality of the caps isn't good:( I must rewatch Serenity now:D

Achaja
May 19th, 2010, 07:12 AM
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/doll04.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/doll03.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/adelle01.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/doll02.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/doll1.png
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dollu2.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dollu3.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dollu4.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dollu1.png

Jackdoc
May 25th, 2010, 06:56 PM
Such sexiness there, love the warm colours and crisp images... great work on these!

Achaja
May 26th, 2010, 01:36 AM
thank you <3 :D

Jackdoc
May 27th, 2010, 04:23 PM
Just some of my work

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n49/jackdoc/Untitled-1-42.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n49/jackdoc/xcz.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n49/jackdoc/Untitled-3-13.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n49/jackdoc/Untitled-1zc-1.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n49/jackdoc/Untitled-1-39.jpg

Achaja
May 28th, 2010, 12:53 AM
:eek: woooow! These are gorgeous!!! I adore the 4th one! You could also show them in Graphic Art display thread! Great job Jackdoc!

Few icons from me again:
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/555madworld.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/555closecrop.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/555bw.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/555alone.png

Jackdoc
May 28th, 2010, 04:08 PM
OH! the Dr Saunders one... so creepy... perfect!

LiliJ
May 29th, 2010, 07:08 AM
Woah, awesome sigs, Jackdoc!! I particularly love the one with Joss (weee!! Joss!!) and with the 3 pics of Eliza :D

And ofc your icons rule, Achaja. As always :P

I really need to do some Dollhouse icons... I actually did a whole bunch for my Strong Female Characters batch, but did post them here. Ah well.

Achaja
May 30th, 2010, 09:51 AM
thankies, thankies:o

Achaja
June 7th, 2010, 01:30 PM
Me again:o
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/do3.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/do2.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/do1.png

LiliJ
June 14th, 2010, 12:44 PM
I love the smudge texture on these! :D *hugs*

LiliJ
June 23rd, 2010, 04:08 AM
I thought you guys might appreciate this - I'm going to NYC in about a month, and Fran Kranz tweeted that he's in a play on Broadway then.,

...

I MIGHT GET TO MEET HIM!!! (cos you can go round the back to the stage door.)

OMGOMGOGMG

*is too excited to talk*

Also...

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/savedots.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/savepink.jpg http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv300/LiliJ/negspace-1.jpg

Achaja
June 23rd, 2010, 04:50 AM
:eek: you gotta be kidding me! Seriously?? How awesome!!! I will cross my fingers for you to have such opportunity to meet him^^ Pretty icons:)

LiliJ
June 23rd, 2010, 05:37 AM
Iknowiknowiknow!!!! I was so excited I couldn't sleep last night!! :D I may be too shy though... :S

Achaja
June 24th, 2010, 02:19 AM
Speaking of...now there's a challenge with Frank on lj..I made 4 icons^^

Something new...
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/ed.jpg

http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/love4.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/love3.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/love2.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/love1.png

Achaja
June 26th, 2010, 01:23 PM
Me again...:P
These were made for a specific challenge on LJ:
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dl02.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dl03.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dl01.png
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dollhouse2-1.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dollhouse3-1.png
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/dollhouse1-1.png

Jackdoc
July 5th, 2010, 08:50 PM
Achaja those are Beautiful!... That eliza siggie is just stunning!

LiliJ... Go get him! haha

Achaja
July 6th, 2010, 01:53 AM
Thank you^^

Puddle-Jumper
July 6th, 2010, 06:18 PM
Just noticed last night that the lobby of Wolfram and heart in Angel is very very very similar to the Dollhouse...

LiliJ
July 11th, 2010, 01:43 PM
Achaja those are Beautiful!... That eliza siggie is just stunning!

LiliJ... Go get him! haha

hehe I plan to! :D:D


Just noticed last night that the lobby of Wolfram and heart in Angel is very very very similar to the Dollhouse...

I noticed that too!! Set recycle much, Joss?! :P


Speaking of...now there's a challenge with Frank on lj..I made 4 icons^^

Something new...
<snip>

I love the composition and colouring! You really captured the mood of the scene :D

Achaja
July 13th, 2010, 12:19 PM
Thanks Lili! Guess what I have for ya?:D
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/frank4.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/frank3.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/frank2.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/frank1.png

LiliJ
July 16th, 2010, 04:47 PM
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah omg :D

This maketh me happy!

*snurches*

*hugs*

:D

Achaja
July 17th, 2010, 02:58 AM
:) I'm glad

Achaja
July 22nd, 2010, 12:58 PM
From challenge about Mellie^^ (my fave character):D

http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/do04.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/do03.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/do02.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/do01.png

Achaja
September 15th, 2010, 12:44 PM
Topher challenge :

http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/topher04.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/topher03.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/topher02.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/topher01.png

Oh and these:

http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/do_l4.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/do_l3.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/do_l2.png http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad192/Achajka2/do_l1.png

BigBear
August 8th, 2011, 03:48 AM
Achaja, beautiful art! <3

Achaja
August 8th, 2011, 12:02 PM
Thank you :)

SaberBlade
August 14th, 2011, 09:24 PM
Decided to buy Dollhouse season 1 on DVD a few days ago and must admit, it was better than I had imagined. Not sure I would have enjoyed the show on a weekly basis as much as I did being able to watch the season in my own pace and not be left wondering what happens next week (which I hate in shows at times).

After seeing Dushku, Amy Acker and Alan Tudyk in it, I can't wait to see how many other familiar Whedonverse actors show up.