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Skydiver
April 15th, 2005, 07:18 PM
You're right of course...I just got a little ticked for a moment.

I have since edited my post...

:D


smooches

Buc252
April 15th, 2005, 07:37 PM
This is really funny, and I just had to share. . .

I was on ebay tonight and did a search for Richard Dean Anderson, just to see what was "out there" for sale. One item I came up with was a script for Solitudes. (We all know that ep - Jack, Sam, freezing to death . . .)

Anyway, this is an exerp of the description of the episode, as posted on ebay:

This is the episode where Jack and Sam are trapped after they gate to a frozen, desolate world. As the SG command desperately tries to find a means to rescue them, Jack and Sam see their chances dwindling. As the end seems to draw near, they admt their true feelings for each other.

Now, I adore that episode, but I definitely think I missed this last bit. <vbEg> But me thinks the seller may just be a shipper at heart! <g>

Hex.FTB.enabled
April 15th, 2005, 07:59 PM
This is really funny, and I just had to share. . .

I was on ebay tonight and did a search for Richard Dean Anderson, just to see what was "out there" for sale. One item I came up with was a script for Solitudes. (We all know that ep - Jack, Sam, freezing to death . . .)

Anyway, this is an exerp of the description of the episode, as posted on ebay:

This is the episode where Jack and Sam are trapped after they gate to a frozen, desolate world. As the SG command desperately tries to find a means to rescue them, Jack and Sam see their chances dwindling. As the end seems to draw near, they admt their true feelings for each other.

Now, I adore that episode, but I definitely think I missed this last bit. <vbEg> But me thinks the seller may just be a shipper at heart! <g>

Can you imagine if a new shipper who hadn't seen the ep found this? That would just be cruel.... :eek:

Hex.FTB.enabled
April 15th, 2005, 08:02 PM
:mad: The Sci-Fi website had Zero Hour listed for tonight! (I know GW had icon, but they were one off last week). Stupid Icon, I wanted to see more Jack and that nice shippy moment at the end. I've had a crappy week, I was looking forward to that. *growl*

ann_sgcfan
April 15th, 2005, 08:05 PM
This is really funny, and I just had to share. . .

I was on ebay tonight and did a search for Richard Dean Anderson, just to see what was "out there" for sale. One item I came up with was a script for Solitudes. (We all know that ep - Jack, Sam, freezing to death . . .)

Anyway, this is an exerp of the description of the episode, as posted on ebay:

This is the episode where Jack and Sam are trapped after they gate to a frozen, desolate world. As the SG command desperately tries to find a means to rescue them, Jack and Sam see their chances dwindling. As the end seems to draw near, they admt their true feelings for each other.

Now, I adore that episode, but I definitely think I missed this last bit. <vbEg> But me thinks the seller may just be a shipper at heart! <g>


That is too funny! It just goes to show how many J/S shippers are out there. :D

Another note: I noticed a new spoiler for Season 9 was posted today. I thought it was interesting that Baal was hiding out on Earth. So wouldn't this mean that General O'Neill would need to be advised of this particular Goa'uld presences on Earth? So maybe there is a chance that we will see RDA when AT returns??? just my first thoughts when I read the spoiler.

Uber
April 15th, 2005, 08:05 PM
:mad: The Sci-Fi website had Zero Hour listed for tonight! (I know GW had icon, but they were one off last week). Stupid Icon, I wanted to see more Jack and that nice shippy moment at the end. I've had a crappy week, I was looking forward to that. *growl*
they might...EMPHASIZE MIGHT...air it for the "second" airing like at eleven or midnight...but don't hold your breath...

ON EDIT...

Never mind.

:(

However, we do get to see Sam as a kick butt team leader(!!) but I was kinda hoping for Zero Hour and the shippy moment...

Skydiver
April 15th, 2005, 08:05 PM
poor hex

drag out your video tape. it's more fun taht way anyway

you can rewind the good stuff

sg-1fanintn
April 15th, 2005, 08:08 PM
Rewinding the "good stuff" is definitely a good thing. I don't know how many times I've watched the scene between Jack and Sam in the infirmary in "Threads," just before Jacob dies. I think I have every nuance memorized!

I've also been rewatching the scene between Jack and Kerry in Jack's office, because of the reactions from Jack. He knows it's time to find a way to be with Sam. Heck, even Kerry knows it!

LOL4JACK
April 15th, 2005, 08:11 PM
That is too funny! It just goes to show how many J/S shippers are out there. :D

Another note: I noticed a new spoiler for Season 9 was posted today. I thought it was interesting that Baal was hiding out on Earth. So wouldn't this mean that General O'Neill would need to be advised of this particular Goa'uld presences on Earth? So maybe there is a chance that we will see RDA when AT returns??? just my first thoughts when I read the spoiler.
Positive shippy thoughts.. yummy :D :D :D

Hex.FTB.enabled
April 15th, 2005, 08:11 PM
I actually found the part where she slipped and said "love" was really sweet Who could blame her?

Uber
April 15th, 2005, 08:12 PM
I actually found the part where she slipped and said "love" was really sweet Who could blame her?
???

To what are you referring, my friend Hex.FTB.enabled?

ann_sgcfan
April 15th, 2005, 08:14 PM
:mad: The Sci-Fi website had Zero Hour listed for tonight! (I know GW had icon, but they were one off last week). Stupid Icon, I wanted to see more Jack and that nice shippy moment at the end. I've had a crappy week, I was looking forward to that. *growl*


According to my TV Guide "Zero Hour" comes on next week ... sorry :o Right now they are showing "Icon" where I live.

GW has been off for several weeks now for the weekend episode (although they were correct tonight). I have gotten where I just check with TV Guide before I get my hopes up too much.

Hex.FTB.enabled
April 15th, 2005, 08:16 PM
???

To what are you referring, my friend Hex.FTB.enabled?

Hurray for transcripts! I was referring to the part where Kerry is breaking up with Jack she says, "You have issues. It's OK -- we all do. There's just one big one in particular that I don't think I can love with. (Jack raises his eyebrows. Kerry flinches and corrects herself.) Live with." Even as a long-time shipper, I still went awwwww. :)

Uber
April 15th, 2005, 08:28 PM
Hurray for transcripts! I was referring to the part where Kerry is breaking up with Jack she says, "You have issues. It's OK -- we all do. There's just one big one in particular that I don't think I can love with. (Jack raises his eyebrows. Kerry flinches and corrects herself.) Live with." Even as a long-time shipper, I still went awwwww. :)
Gotcha...

When you said "she" I thought you were talking about Sam...

:D

ann_sgcfan
April 15th, 2005, 08:31 PM
Hurray for transcripts! I was referring to the part where Kerry is breaking up with Jack she says, "You have issues. It's OK -- we all do. There's just one big one in particular that I don't think I can love with. (Jack raises his eyebrows. Kerry flinches and corrects herself.) Live with." Even as a long-time shipper, I still went awwwww. :)


I think that is why so many fans were okay with Kerry's presences ... well that and the fact her relationship with Jack didn't last longer than one episode. :D

Hex.FTB.enabled
April 15th, 2005, 08:34 PM
Agreed. Pete was annoying and a bit creepy from the beginning, that made him harder to accept down the line, except for obvious reasons. Kerry seemed like a cool chick, and yes, the 1-ep status helps. :D

lonely_star
April 15th, 2005, 09:02 PM
Hi Shippy Family !!! I've been reading you for a long time now !! and I enjoyed it a lot!! I've finally decided to join you !! I have the feeling to know you all now ! so I'm gonna present myself so you can know me better :-)

My name is Marion, I'm french,I am studying in Minnesota (yay for jack's cabin !!!) and I'm a SHIPPER of course !!! :p

Sam and Jack FOREVER ;-) even for season 9 !!

I agree it doesn't look so good for the next season but i'll give it a chance and anyway in my heart and yours (and the fanfic ;-) ) they'll ALWAYS be together !!

so hope I'll have fun with my new family ;) and that we'll hear soon from the Con !!!
sorry if I don't use the forum as I'm supposed to...don't dinf me yet, I'm a poor new little french new shippy...hehe)

lonely_star
April 15th, 2005, 09:06 PM
oh and just to say a little bit about my shipper taste, I like a lot the hug at the end of heroes !!! I think it's too cute how jack looks at sam's lips... :o :o wow!!!!

i'll tell you my opinion about threads and moebius as soon as I know how to "highlight" the spoilers...if someone could explain me ;-)

sue kay, mei mei, caty, LOVE your different fan fics, videos and pictures !!!! ;-) keep going !! you guys rock !! (and others but can't remember the names :( )

ann_sgcfan
April 15th, 2005, 09:15 PM
oh and just to say a little bit about my shipper taste, I like a lot the hug at the end of heroes !!! I think it's too cute how jack looks at sam's lips... :o :o wow!!!!

i'll tell you my opinion about threads and moebius as soon as I know how to "highlight" the spoilers...if someone could explain me ;-)

sue kay, mei mei, caty, LOVE your different fan fics, videos and pictures !!!! ;-) keep going !! you guys rock !! (and others but can't remember the names :( )


Hi and Welcome !!! :D

for spoilers type [ Spoiler ] (without the spaces) text here and then end with [ /spoiler ] (again without the spaces). You can preview your post and it should look like juicy details on the episodes that some people haven't seen yet :)

lonely_star
April 15th, 2005, 09:21 PM
thanks !!!
I don't want to screw up so i'm gonna try first :p
I'd be glad to make an omelet with Potatoe head ;-) :D

Uber
April 15th, 2005, 09:22 PM
oh and just to say a little bit about my shipper taste, I like a lot the hug at the end of heroes !!! I think it's too cute how jack looks at sam's lips... :o :o wow!!!!

i'll tell you my opinion about threads and moebius as soon as I know how to "highlight" the spoilers...if someone could explain me ;-)

sue kay, mei mei, caty, LOVE your different fan fics, videos and pictures !!!! ;-) keep going !! you guys rock !! (and others but can't remember the names :( )
Welcome lonely_star! We're happy to have you here!

We take all types in the shipper forum...French, British, Australian, Tennessean... (that's where I'm from...Tennessee) :D

Be sure to read the fanfic (especially mine...just look at my signature for the links and remember to post a review!!!) and watch all the videos and...most importantly...

HAVE FUN!

That's an order.

:D

LOL4JACK
April 15th, 2005, 09:25 PM
oh and just to say a little bit about my shipper taste, I like a lot the hug at the end of heroes !!! I think it's too cute how jack looks at sam's lips... :o :o wow!!!!

i'll tell you my opinion about threads and moebius as soon as I know how to "highlight" the spoilers...if someone could explain me ;-)

sue kay, mei mei, caty, LOVE your different fan fics, videos and pictures !!!! ;-) keep going !! you guys rock !! (and others but can't remember the names :( )
Welcome Shipper Marion!!!! and I'm sure you'll get lots of (((((((((( :p ))))))))))), it's the SHIPPER FAMILY! thread and I can't stop saying that I love it here.

Carolina

lonely_star
April 15th, 2005, 09:33 PM
YAY !!! :cool: it worked ! :-)
cool !!

so about Threads I really enjoy the backyard scene ! it's so cute...love how jack reacts with his beer and the look and deception in Sam's face when Kerry shows up... :( personaly i think Kerry doesn't need more to get the truth...Jack and Sam are meant to be together and I think she knew it and feel the tension very quickly, I wasn't very surprised when she pays Jack a little visit in his office ;-)

about Moebius I think it wasn't really a season finale, I was expected a little better but I had a lot of fun! ;-) love AT acting and the kisses of course even if i'm still waiting for the REAL one...as I suppose you guys are...I don't really consider the two of them together but on the good way...I hope we'll have our "visual victory" in season 9...

still can't believe RDA is leaving... :( I'm glad for his family but sad for ours !! :-( anyway we will survive !!! we survived a Pete !! we can survive anything !!!! :D

lonely_star
April 15th, 2005, 09:37 PM
Welcome lonely_star! We're happy to have you here!
have fun
That's an order.

:D

yes sir ;-)

by the way I've already read your fic and loved them !! it took me a long time but I really enjoyed them and I'm looking for the continuation (end)
It's the best way to practice my english ;-)

have you guys read good fics about Threads or Moebius?

thanks for your welcome and you can be sure I'll have a lot of fun ! I already have !!! ;)

lonely_star
April 15th, 2005, 09:41 PM
i'm gonna sleep now
I wish you all a good night and I hope we will get up with fresh news from the Con ! I'll try to have a sig soon
(can you, guys say me what software use to edit pictures? and make cool effects?)

sg-1fanintn
April 15th, 2005, 09:45 PM
I edited my photos in Photoshop, then droped the series of three into a black box in Publisher. Then, I added the line of text, converted it to a .pdf, reopened it in Photoshop; then cropped it, flattened it and saved it.

http://img3.imagevenue.com/loc226/de8_banner.jpg

lonely_star
April 15th, 2005, 09:52 PM
I edited my photos in Photoshop, then droped the series of three into a black box in Publisher. Then, I added the line of text, converted it to a .pdf, reopened it in Photoshop; then cropped it, flattened it and saved it.

http://img3.imagevenue.com/loc226/de8_banner.jpg

:eek: ok !!! :S I may need a little more time then !! :D :rolleyes:
Marion

Oma-1
April 15th, 2005, 11:05 PM
Welcome Marian!

You won't be lonely here (((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))))) :)

Athough I get the feeling this post is going to echo for a while :p

I don't really have much else to say today ... yet :rolleyes: so I'm gonna read some more ff

majorsal
April 15th, 2005, 11:14 PM
Nope, sorry he is mine.

Have ya'll seen the new spoilers Agent Barrett is back, working with Sam. I wonder if he is going to ask her out again?

well, if he does, this could be the (spoilers for s9's Ex Deus Machina) perfect opportunity for sam to say, "can't, barrett, i'm involved with someone.". barrett will say...

barrett: "again?"

(sam smiles and nods)

barrett: "who?"

sam: "guess."

barrett: "o'neill?"

sam: "how'd you know?"

barrett: "saw the chemistry between you."

sam: "is this going to be a problem between us?"

barrett: "nope. but tell me... will i ever get a chance to take you out?"

sam: "you mean when i'm done with jack?"

(barrett nods)

sam: "ain't going to happen."


sally :D

shortiedu
April 15th, 2005, 11:26 PM
hey ÜberSG-1Fan,

any hint to as when part 3 will be finished? Good story so far. Love the shippy fic here, bring it on!

Uber
April 15th, 2005, 11:42 PM
hey ÜberSG-1Fan,

any hint to as when part 3 will be finished? Good story so far. Love the shippy fic here, bring it on!
Thank you! Be sure to post a review if you haven't already... :D

Real life's been kicking me in the tail this week. I've been working on a major video production for one of my clients (although I'd prefer to work on either part 3 of the story or the shippy music vid I've been laying out for the past 3 weeks)...

So...hopefully, the answer is SOON!!!

:D

ohshocking
April 16th, 2005, 12:08 AM
so about Threads I really enjoy the backyard scene ! it's so cute...love how jack reacts with his beer and the look and deception in Sam's face when Kerry shows up... :( personaly i think Kerry doesn't need more to get the truth...Jack and Sam are meant to be together and I think she knew it and feel the tension very quickly, I wasn't very surprised when she pays Jack a little visit in his office ;-)

about Moebius I think it wasn't really a season finale, I was expected a little better but I had a lot of fun! ;-) love AT acting and the kisses of course even if i'm still waiting for the REAL one...as I suppose you guys are...I don't really consider the two of them together but on the good way...I hope we'll have our "visual victory" in season 9...

*waves* Welcome!
RE: Threads I, too love how Jack reacts with the beer - spilling it all over the place :) Very amusing and shows how unnerved he is that Sam's showed up to finally tell him something oh so very important, and he's got another woman in the house! Not that I didn't like Kerry, because I did, she only stayed for 1 ep and told Jack to retire to be with Sam, what's not to like? :)

RE: Moebius I have to agree, as a season finale Threads fits much better, but Moebius was oh so very funny! AT was brilliant as geeky!Sam. And yes we got a cute kiss, (the 'in a minute' bit was especially great!) but still not the real Sam and Jack, but hopefully someday...

Lord Zedd
April 16th, 2005, 04:48 AM
Welcome Marian and other newbies !! ;)

I just rewatch the episode where Jack stole a disarming device from the Tollan. Carter said to him: Sir you aren't ackting like yourself
O'Neill said: no Carter I haven't been acting like myself since I met you !!!!!! :eek: he went way out of line there !!!!

sueKay
April 16th, 2005, 05:15 AM
Heya!

How are all the shippers this fine day?????

WELCOME TO ALL THE NEWBIES!!!!!!!!!!

and

WELCOME BACK TO SHEL AND ANY OTHER SHIPPERS WHO HAVE RETURNED!!!!!!

Me? I'm not holding my breath for s9 spoilers, and I don't think I'll be around much once the people who are at the convention come back.

BUT...

I've worked out my money and....

guess who's going to Vancouver next year!

*nods head vigorously*

ME!

Anywho...I've been watching a lot of old eps over the last few days, and Emancipation left me wondering something...

Sam: "What a relief, I have never been so happy to see you guys."

Jack: "Oh, sure you have, remember that time on P3X-595, you drank that stuff that made you take off..."

Sam: "We won't get into that now.

Hee hee hee...wonder what happened there????

Emilee108
April 16th, 2005, 05:23 AM
First of all....WELCOME lonely_star!!!!
I hope we see more of you!
And I totally agree with your points from Moebius and Threads!




Welcome Marian and other newbies !! ;)

I just rewatch the episode where Jack stole a disarming device from the Tollan. Carter said to him: Sir you aren't ackting like yourself
O'Neill said: no Carter I haven't been acting like myself since I met you !!!!!! :eek: he went way out of line there !!!!

Hi Anubis!

The episode you are talking about is "Shades of Gray" I think. I remember watching it and when he looked at Sam and said those words I thought to myself..."OUCH! That hurt!" But in the end we all know that it was a charade that he had to put on. In fact it probably was hard for him to say those words and to see her face after he did. Even though Sam knew it was just an act at the end of the episode, and that he had to be mean to be believable, it would have been nice to have Jack say, "Hey Carter, I didn't mean what I said earlier and I'm sorry I snapped at you.......it was all part of the act." Or something like that.

Hey Oma !! I was the one who repped you the other night! I just barely figured out how to do all the rep stuff and so I went on a frenzy and started repping everyone until I couldn't anymore! I even got a dinger the other night too.....I felt kinda special that someone thought that my post was offensive...hahahaha.

Have a good day shippers!!!

~*~Emilee~*~

Oma-1
April 16th, 2005, 05:28 AM
I've spent half the morning reading ff's :D (what else are Saturday's for :p)

Before the end of S8 I was always a bit wary of reading RST ones, mainly cos it didn't fit with the characters. Sam & Jack have spent so long tip toeing around their relationship, I couldn't quite feel comfortable reading about them in a relationship - is that screwed up or what for a shipper :p

But now the door is open, and considering the fact that ship will be few and far between if at all in S9, I'm beginning to get a new appreciation for RST fics. :) - gotta get my shippy fix from somewhere :p

I'm even finding them quite cathartic in helping me to get excited for S9. I'm gonna miss Jack emensely, and Sam in the first few eps, but knowing that they are together - even if it's not mentioned in the show again, is extremely satisfying and heart warming :) So I think I can handle the new line up.

The Ba'al spoiler makes me very happy too :D

dipsofjazz
April 16th, 2005, 06:49 AM
Hi Shippy Family !!! I've been reading you for a long time now !! and I enjoyed it a lot!! I've finally decided to join you !! I have the feeling to know you all now ! so I'm gonna present myself so you can know me better :-)

My name is Marion, I'm french,I am studying in Minnesota (yay for jack's cabin !!!) and I'm a SHIPPER of course !!! :p

Sam and Jack FOREVER ;-) even for season 9 !!

I agree it doesn't look so good for the next season but i'll give it a chance and anyway in my heart and yours (and the fanfic ;-) ) they'll ALWAYS be together !!

so hope I'll have fun with my new family ;) and that we'll hear soon from the Con !!!
sorry if I don't use the forum as I'm supposed to...don't dinf me yet, I'm a poor new little french new shippy...hehe)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/dipsofjazz/odds/letter_by_letter.gif

Hello there and welcome to the family. :D

dipsofjazz
April 16th, 2005, 06:53 AM
We survived a Pete !! we can survive anything !!!! :D
:D Yeah sure ya betcha! :D

dipsofjazz
April 16th, 2005, 06:55 AM
well, if he does, this could be the (spoilers for s9's Ex Deus Machina) perfect opportunity for sam to say, "can't, barrett, i'm involved with someone.". barrett will say...

barrett: "again?"

(sam smiles and nods)

barrett: "who?"

sam: "guess."

barrett: "o'neill?"

sam: "how'd you know?"

barrett: "saw the chemistry between you."

sam: "is this going to be a problem between us?"

barrett: "nope. but tell me... will i ever get a chance to take you out?"

sam: "you mean when i'm done with jack?"

(barrett nods)

sam: "ain't going to happen."


sally :D
:D This is definitely the episode I want to see! :D

dipsofjazz
April 16th, 2005, 06:57 AM
Thank you! Be sure to post a review if you haven't already... :D

Real life's been kicking me in the tail this week. I've been working on a major video production for one of my clients (although I'd prefer to work on either part 3 of the story or the shippy music vid I've been laying out for the past 3 weeks)...

So...hopefully, the answer is SOON!!!

:D
:D Never mind all this real life rubbish...we need part three NOW!!! :D

dipsofjazz
April 16th, 2005, 07:01 AM
Hi Anubis!

The episode you are talking about is "Shades of Gray" I think. I remember watching it and when he looked at Sam and said those words I thought to myself..."OUCH! That hurt!" But in the end we all know that it was a charade that he had to put on. In fact it probably was hard for him to say those words and to see her face after he did. Even though Sam knew it was just an act at the end of the episode, and that he had to be mean to be believable, it would have been nice to have Jack say, "Hey Carter, I didn't mean what I said earlier and I'm sorry I snapped at you.......it was all part of the act." Or something like that. ~*~Emilee~*~
I agree that Sam was hurt with his words here. We can always look at it in a shippy way, as Jack's life certainly changed from the day he met Sam...and for the better! :D

patsbabe
April 16th, 2005, 07:52 AM
Hey Folks!
Love all the posts! Thank God for this thread and Fanfic!!! Otherwise I would go out of my Shipper mind!
I've had an Idea for a fan fic but I'm crap at writing! so If anyone wanted to use it it would be cool!
..... How about if Walter came into Jacks office telling him that there is a courier from Washington with a package for Cornel O'Neill And he wont take no for an answer. And Walter says we have no Cornel O'Neill. Jack asks to see the package and its from the Oval Office & States clearly on the front that it can only be opned by Cornel O'Neill. So Jack tells Walter to page Cornel O'neill to the Generals office to see who will turn up to Claim the package. He does and everyone stopes and looks at the intercom. Sam & Daniel Turn up ant the same time to the Generals office and Sam says you think Jack says I do. Sam takes the package and opens it and the package contains new office door plates / Name plate with the name Lt Cornel Samantha (Carter) O'Neill along with a Congrats Card from the President. Sam with a beaming smile turns to Jack ans Says I Guess he Found a way. Jack Says I Guess. The leans in to give her a smakker! Everyone else stares. Jack turns to Walter "Well aren't you going to Congratulate Us?"
I know I know wont happen now But I can dream!
As you can see from my spelling I cant write em but I think that would be cool!

Lord Zedd
April 16th, 2005, 08:01 AM
First of all....WELCOME lonely_star!!!!
I hope we see more of you!
And I totally agree with your points from Moebius and Threads!





Hi Anubis!

The episode you are talking about is "Shades of Gray" I think. I remember watching it and when he looked at Sam and said those words I thought to myself..."OUCH! That hurt!" But in the end we all know that it was a charade that he had to put on. In fact it probably was hard for him to say those words and to see her face after he did. Even though Sam knew it was just an act at the end of the episode, and that he had to be mean to be believable, it would have been nice to have Jack say, "Hey Carter, I didn't mean what I said earlier and I'm sorry I snapped at you.......it was all part of the act." Or something like that.

Hey Oma !! I was the one who repped you the other night! I just barely figured out how to do all the rep stuff and so I went on a frenzy and started repping everyone until I couldn't anymore! I even got a dinger the other night too.....I felt kinda special that someone thought that my post was offensive...hahahaha.

Have a good day shippers!!!
~*~Emilee~*~
He thanks for the reply Yeah I think also that he didn't ment it. But maybe he ment that he wasn't acting like himself since he met her. Because before he met her he was depressed and such and since he knows Carter he has become more happier. Maybe he ment that he said that he was acting like before but that is actually a good thing.

ShimmeringStar
April 16th, 2005, 08:03 AM
Hey Folks!
Love all the posts! Thank God for this thread and Fanfic!!! Otherwise I would go out of my Shipper mind!
I've had an Idea for a fan fic but I'm crap at writing! so If anyone wanted to use it it would be cool!
..... How about if Walter came into Jacks office telling him that there is a courier from Washington with a package for Cornel O'Neill And he wont take no for an answer. And Walter says we have no Cornel O'Neill. Jack asks to see the package and its from the Oval Office & States clearly on the front that it can only be opned by Cornel O'Neill. So Jack tells Walter to page Cornel O'neill to the Generals office to see who will turn up to Claim the package. He does and everyone stopes and looks at the intercom. Sam & Daniel Turn up ant the same time to the Generals office and Sam says you think Jack says I do. Sam takes the package and opens it and the package contains new office door plates / Name plate with the name Lt Cornel Samantha (Carter) O'Neill along with a Congrats Card from the President. Sam with a beaming smile turns to Jack ans Says I Guess he Found a way. Jack Says I Guess. The leans in to give her a smakker! Everyone else stares. Jack turns to Walter "Well aren't you going to Congratulate Us?"
I know I know wont happen now But I can dream!
As you can see from my spelling I cant write em but I think that would be cool!
Welcome to the S/J Thread Patsbabe!

Hey, don't sell yourself short! You should keep writing! If you have a word processing program on your PC (like WORD or Wordperfect) hit the spellchecker... that'll help you with alot of the spelling. And to find a good beta too! But keep practicing... you've got the imagination there to do it! :)

(((Patsbabe)))

Lord Zedd
April 16th, 2005, 08:11 AM
Welcome Petsbabe !! to the family Enjoy your stay in here
As for your writing don't quit !! Keep on writing

ShimmeringStar
April 16th, 2005, 08:12 AM
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The episode you are talking about is "Shades of Gray" I think. I remember watching it and when he looked at Sam and said those words I thought to myself..."OUCH! That hurt!" But in the end we all know that it was a charade that he had to put on. In fact it probably was hard for him to say those words and to see her face after he did. Even though Sam knew it was just an act at the end of the episode, and that he had to be mean to be believable, it would have been nice to have Jack say, "Hey Carter, I didn't mean what I said earlier and I'm sorry I snapped at you.......it was all part of the act." Or something like that.
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Yep. In fact that's what my 2nd fanfic is dealing a bit with... (it's set between 100 Days and Shades of Grey... it's still a WIP right now - only 1/3 done & about 30 pages already! :p ) Jack really had to distance himself from *everyone* in order to get the charade to work out. Especially since they (Hammond/the Tollan/the Asgard/Jack) didn't know exactly who the mole was inside the SGC.

But I agree... it felt like the viewers were being a bit shortchanged to not see Jack essentially 'kiss and make up' with Sam the same way they showed Jack making up with Daniel at the end of the show. Especially since (to me) the words Jack said to her cut a whole heck of a lot deeper than his earlier brushing off of Dan.

ses110
April 16th, 2005, 08:33 AM
Sally I would be shocked if Barrett does not ask out Sam.I'am almost afraid to post since I have been getting dinged on all my post but at this point I could care less.TPTB are turning Sam into a Barbie Doll.Sam is Eye Candy for all the Male guest stars.Hathor has nothing on Sam.TPTB are treating all Male guest Stars like they never saw a Beautiful Women.TPTB have ruined a great Character.AT did not want Sam to be Jack's Girl and now Sam is everyone Girl.We even have some Sam/Baal fans.After everything Baal did to Jack Sam should be the first one trying to kill Baal.No matter how Evil a Character is they will all fall in Love with Sam the second they see her.TPTB will try to push some Sam/Baal Ship you can be sure.Enjoy Season 9 everyone and let the dinging begin.

Elkeli
April 16th, 2005, 08:45 AM
Hey everyone, sorry I haven't been on lately i've been working alot. However, for the past few days i've been sent home sick after a few hours. :(

Anyhoo, spent a LONG while also reading the fanfic that was suggested in the second post on page 44 if anyone wants to go check it out, its tops!

And does anyone have any ideas for where I could host only one vid file that is less than 20MB? I still have that ship vid to get posted :)

Had a shippy moment tonight in the staff room!! I was listening to 'LA Confidential' on the TV and someone goes "Hey Sam and Jack"I was like :eek: hehehe

Its a shame that no one would have any idea what I was saying if I pointed that out. lol

Have a good one :)

P.S- I'm having some friends over for a stargate viewing, mum's calling it "Stargate Club" and we're thinking of making it an official club at our Uni, there's one for picnics so we can have a stargate one surely! lol

ohshocking
April 16th, 2005, 08:57 AM
Yep. In fact that's what my 2nd fanfic is dealing a bit with... (it's set between 100 Days and Shades of Grey... it's still a WIP right now - only 1/3 done & about 30 pages already! :p ) Jack really had to distance himself from *everyone* in order to get the charade to work out. Especially since they (Hammond/the Tollan/the Asgard/Jack) didn't know exactly who the mole was inside the SGC.

But I agree... it felt like the viewers were being a bit shortchanged to not see Jack essentially 'kiss and make up' with Sam the same way they showed Jack making up with Daniel at the end of the show. Especially since (to me) the words Jack said to her cut a whole heck of a lot deeper than his earlier brushing off of Dan.
Wow, 30 pages and only a third done! That's going to be quite a fic :)

I have to agree, Jack's words to Sam were more hurtful, so we should have seen some attempt at him making it up to her! Maybe he had to be like that with Sam though (I mean, whilst he was pulling off the charade), because, whether or not he realised it or was ready to admit it, he felt more for Sam than the other characters, so subconciously pushed her away. As, it'd have been harder to continue pretending and hiding the truth from her. We should have seen him make it up to her, though, especially as we'd only just had 100 days!

lonely_star
April 16th, 2005, 09:54 AM
Sally I would be shocked if Barrett does not ask out Sam.I'am almost afraid to post since I have been getting dinged on all my post but at this point I could care less.TPTB are turning Sam into a Barbie Doll.Sam is Eye Candy for all the Male guest stars.Hathor has nothing on Sam.TPTB are treating all Male guest Stars like they never saw a Beautiful Women.TPTB have ruined a great Character.AT did not want Sam to be Jack's Girl and now Sam is everyone Girl.We even have some Sam/Baal fans.After everything Baal did to Jack Sam should be the first one trying to kill Baal.No matter how Evil a Character is they will all fall in Love with Sam the second they see her.TPTB will try to push some Sam/Baal Ship you can be sure.Enjoy Season 9 everyone and let the dinging begin.

first of all, thanks for the welcome guys, I already feel at home
shimmering star :I liked Choices a lot and your sig is awesome!! ;)

I agree with you with how Sam (season9) could be used and turned in a Barbie Girl, I'm kind of worried about that cause she's gonna be the only female star after Vala leaves and with a male character like BB(Ben not Beau :D )...
But I think we don't have to worry as much, let's wait and see, the Sam character is not one easily falling for someone and at the latest news, she already fell for someone :p ;)
Sam/Baal seems totally ridiculous to me, I'm more afraid by a Barret than a Baal but as majorsal pointed out, Sam is kindly gonna turn him down ;-) (love your vision of the scene !! if only could be true!! )

Anyway, even if it's the easy solution to turn Sam into THE attraction for guests male stars, I don't think (and hope) they'll do it, it should be a big disapointment for all sg1 fan and not only the shippers. they spent the last 8 years trying to build an independent and strong female charcater i don't think they'll screw up it all like that...as kerry would say... just a thought... ;)

Oma-1
April 16th, 2005, 10:42 AM
Personally, I'm not worried about Barratt. Sam's already given him the brush off back in S7 - the one with Anna ...*desperately trying to remember ep name* ... Ressurection :D. And if memory serves me correctly, didn't she say something about not going there again .... I'll have to look that up.

So at least we won't have to worry for 1 ep that someone's gonna hit on Sam - unless of course, Barratt likes rejection :p

Nikki
April 16th, 2005, 10:49 AM
I don't think TPTB are gonna have sam start a relationship with another male character as season 9 is suposedly gonna be the last and they spent the end of season 8... (spoilers)...breaking up sam and pete and making the possibility of jack and sam getting together stronger (eg, threads).

Oma-1
April 16th, 2005, 10:52 AM
I found the Smoke & Mirrors ref. Sam says she's going to Washington to look up an old acquaintance, so there's definitely some history there.

S7 Resurrection

Hee hee - found it:p It's definintely a brush off :p

BARRETT: Right, of course. (A pause while Sam types.) So how've you been?

CARTER: Busy. You?

BARRETT: Busy.

CARTER: You know, I never properly thanked you for that memo on Woolsey.

BARRETT: Well maybe we could go out for dinner some time.

(Another pause while Sam flinches and Barrett looks embarrassed but hopeful.)

CARTER: It's just that I'm seeing someone right now.

BARRETT: Really?! You?!

CARTER (indignantly): *You* asked me out!

BARRETT: Yeah, right. Sorry. I'm gonna go check in with Doctor Jackson and Teal'c. (He leaves the room hastily. Sam smiles.)


She's seeing someone else now Matey! Ya missed the boat :D :D

On reflection, maybe he really does like being rejected - she's already given him the brush off twice that we've seen, and possibly even before then in their "history" :p

ses110
April 16th, 2005, 10:57 AM
I hope your right.I just think like you said with Sam being the only Female Lead there may be pressure from the Big TPTB to use Sam as a Barbie Doll.I also do not like how TPTB have written Sam to be nice to everyone even the Biggest enemies to SG-1.If Baal did to Sam what Baal did to Jack Jack would hunt down Baal until he found him.IMO Sam makes a lousy Leader because she tries to be nice with everyone when there are times you need to be the Bad Guy and do what's necaesary and step on some Toe's.IMO Sam learned very little from Jack all these Years as far as being a Leader.We need to have the take charge Sam from eariler Seasons.It seems like Sam has nothing left to prove and she does not want to Rock the Boat.While Jack was still around it would have been great to see an episode where there was one male guest Star that hated Sam or one episode where Sam just ripped someone to pieces.We started with Sam and Jack Ship and we now have Sam Everyone Ship.I doubt even Baywatch had a character like Sam that all guest characters could not resist.I think while some members of TPTB may want to avoid any more Pete's or Male guest Stars and have Sam and Jack together with Jack out of the picture there may be great pressure for the Big Executives to continue to use Sam as a Barbie.

Rogue
April 16th, 2005, 11:01 AM
I don't think TPTB are gonna have sam start a relationship with another male character as season 9 is suposedly gonna be the last and they spent the end of season 8... (spoilers)...breaking up sam and pete and making the possibility of jack and sam getting together stronger (eg, threads).

I agree. I think it would make Sam look really bad. Not that TPTB have a problem with dinging Sams character here lately. But the whole Jack and Sam story line we suffered thru in season 8 was to finally get them together. Jack could have stopped Kerry from walking out the door but he didn't. Sam broke up with Pete because of Jack. So to put Sam with Barrett or Baal would be crazy.

ses110
April 16th, 2005, 11:12 AM
I agree Rogue.Most Shippers are using our common sense.Sadly TPTB have used very little sense when it comes to the Sam character.I think TPTB and AT would Love to return Sam to the way she was in earlier Seasons.I think they had enough of Sam's personal life the last 2 Years.I just think if we do not see Jack and Sam together in Season 9 there may be pressure to bring in someone else for Sam.We've gone from Sam having no personal Life to Sam being the most popular Woman in the galaxy.

lonely_star
April 16th, 2005, 11:22 AM
I agree. I think it would make Sam look really bad. Not that TPTB have a problem with dinging Sams character here lately. But the whole Jack and Sam story line we suffered thru in season 8 was to finally get them together. Jack could have stopped Kerry from walking out the door but he didn't. Sam broke up with Pete because of Jack. So to put Sam with Barrett or Baal would be crazy.

I totally agree and hope you're right !!
and anyway they could explore other sam's feelings like brotherhood and frendship for Danny boy and T...but wrong thread here...I know certain doesn't really appreciate Danny boy for his wrong timing :o

something completely different, I love threads don't have the heart to write loved!!! :( :S Jacob and Cassie as guests and shippers of course :p do you guys have some good fic with those two ?

ses110
April 16th, 2005, 11:28 AM
I just noticed the news about the SG-1 Season premiere and how RDA says goodbye within the first 3 episodes.That does not sound good for Sam and Jack Ship.If we have Sam and Jack appear together for a few episodes we have no worries.The chance for a real Ship resolution would be great.The only hope is if RDA appears in latter episodes or RDA and AT filmed scenes last Year for Season 9.Even if it's true it's not smart for TPTB to annouce RDA leaving after the 3rd episode.You would think they would want the Fans to have some hope he would return for some late Season episodes.

lonely_star
April 16th, 2005, 01:01 PM
wow!! Grace on TV right Now !!!! :cool: :D
see ya guys after the best kiss ever ;-)

Uber
April 16th, 2005, 01:14 PM
I found the Smoke & Mirrors ref. Sam says she's going to Washington to look up an old acquaintance, so there's definitely some history there.

S7 Resurrection

Hee hee - found it:p It's definintely a brush off :p

BARRETT: Right, of course. (A pause while Sam types.) So how've you been?
CARTER: Busy. You?
BARRETT: Busy.
CARTER: You know, I never properly thanked you for that memo on Woolsey.
BARRETT: Well maybe we could go out for dinner some time.
(Another pause while Sam flinches and Barrett looks embarrassed but hopeful.)
CARTER: It's just that I'm seeing someone right now.
BARRETT: Really?! You?!
CARTER (indignantly): *You* asked me out!
BARRETT: Yeah, right. Sorry. I'm gonna go check in with Doctor Jackson and Teal'c. (He leaves the room hastily. Sam smiles.)

She's seeing someone else now Matey! Ya missed the boat :D :D

On reflection, maybe he really does like being rejected - she's already given him the brush off twice that we've seen, and possibly even before then in their "history" :p

SAM AND AGENT BARRETT FOREVER!!!!!!

(just kidding)

:p :D :p :D :p

Yeah...he has lousy timing...first when she was with Pete and now, well she's FINALLY figured out what she wants...

...and if you're not sure what I mean by that, check my sig pic...

:D

florence
April 16th, 2005, 01:41 PM
Hi Shippy Family !!! I've been reading you for a long time now !! and I enjoyed it a lot!! I've finally decided to join you !! I have the feeling to know you all now ! so I'm gonna present myself so you can know me better :-)

My name is Marion, I'm french,I am studying in Minnesota (yay for jack's cabin !!!) and I'm a SHIPPER of course !!! :p

Sam and Jack FOREVER ;-) even for season 9 !!

I agree it doesn't look so good for the next season but i'll give it a chance and anyway in my heart and yours (and the fanfic ;-) ) they'll ALWAYS be together !!

so hope I'll have fun with my new family ;) and that we'll hear soon from the Con !!!
sorry if I don't use the forum as I'm supposed to...don't ding me yet, I'm a poor new little french new shippy...hehe)

http://yelims.free.fr/Coucou/Coucou33.gif
Welcome Marion ! That's great, another frenchie in this family :D

I'm sure you'll have fun here cause it's a really great place for all shippers :)

florence
April 16th, 2005, 01:45 PM
Welcome lonely_star! We're happy to have you here!

We take all types in the shipper forum...French, British, Australian, Tennessean... (that's where I'm from...Tennessee) :D

Yes, if you're a shipper, you're welcome :D


Be sure to read the fanfic (especially mine...just look at my signature for the links and remember to post a review!!!) and watch all the videos and...most importantly...

HAVE FUN!

That's an order.

:D

Ahem, MB, speaking of fanfics, we're still waiting for the next part... ;) :D

lonely_star
April 16th, 2005, 02:05 PM
Grace is over...what an episode! like the way it's filmed, to give the spectator this feeling of desorientation than Sam lives...that's cool...sorry guys i'm an audiovisual stud so i'm pretty into realisation...anyway this episode shows once again AT's talent
one little regret, jack looks old in this conversation with sam, don't ya think? but still love him ;-)

Alaskhah
April 16th, 2005, 02:10 PM
Yeah, I noticed that, too...Maybe from TPTB keeping him from the woman he loves...? :rolleyes:

Uber
April 16th, 2005, 02:11 PM
Yes, if you're a shipper, you're welcome :D



Ahem, MB, speaking of fanfics, we're still waiting for the next part... ;) :D
I know...*growl*...but real life has me in its EVIL clutches right now. At this very moment I'm rendering two...count them TWO...videos for my clients.

The good news is that while I'm waiting, I've had a chance to come up with a couple of really neat twists and some other great Sam/Jack moments...

But I have to put off writing until I'm done with work!!!

:rolleyes:

:D

Alaskhah
April 16th, 2005, 02:14 PM
ooOOoo...well, if it means more plot twists & turns..!! :D They do say good things come to those who wait. (How good is something you have to wait 9 years for, I wonder...*think think* ;) )

lonely_star
April 16th, 2005, 03:19 PM
bouh!!! :( i'm sad i can't spread my love guys...my rep points don't work...but i'll grow up and give points to you as soon as i can cause you're all so nice and helpfull ! thanks again in particular MB for your nice sig !! ;-)...and like alaskhah (you could have chosen an easier spelling !! LOL ) i'm waiting for the part 3 !! ;-)

Uber
April 16th, 2005, 03:21 PM
bouh!!! :( i'm sad i can't spread my love guys...my rep points don't work...but i'll grow up and give points to you as soon as i can cause you're all so nice and helpfull ! thanks again in particular MB for your nice sig !! ;-)...and like alaskhah (you could have chosen an easier spelling !! LOL ) i'm waiting for the part 3 !! ;-)
Here you go if you prefer it without the NOW:

http://www.powerpromoz.com/stargate/lonelystarsig.jpg

:D

Alaskhah
April 16th, 2005, 03:23 PM
No problem, Lonely Star, we'll help ya out! :D (and you can call me "hah" if you want...even my friends IRL do...:P)

florence
April 16th, 2005, 03:27 PM
I know...*growl*...but real life has me in its EVIL clutches right now. At this very moment I'm rendering two...count them TWO...videos for my clients.

The good news is that while I'm waiting, I've had a chance to come up with a couple of really neat twists and some other great Sam/Jack moments...

But I have to put off writing until I'm done with work!!!

:rolleyes:

:D

Ah, work is a bad word :p
But us shippers are very patient cause we know we'll be rewarded in the end ;)
So we'll just have to wait a bit longer for your fic. And if it means more great Sam/Jack moments, it gets better and better :D

florence
April 16th, 2005, 03:29 PM
bouh!!! :( i'm sad i can't spread my love guys...my rep points don't work...but i'll grow up and give points to you as soon as i can cause you're all so nice and helpfull ! thanks again in particular MB for your nice sig !! ;-)...and like alaskhah (you could have chosen an easier spelling !! LOL ) i'm waiting for the part 3 !! ;-)

Don't worry lonely_star. Keep on posting and soon you'll be able to give green jello ;)
Very nice sig ! :)

lonely_star
April 16th, 2005, 03:34 PM
Here you go if you prefer it without the NOW:

http://www.powerpromoz.com/stargate/lonelystarsig.jpg

:D

wow !! you rock !!! you're faster than lightning!!! :p :D thanks again !!

Uber
April 16th, 2005, 04:02 PM
wow !! you rock !!! you're faster than lightning!!! :p :D thanks again !!
Well if you like that, you may like this too. I made an animated banner for you (I'm in a creative mood today :D):


http://www.powerpromoz.com/stargate/lonelystarsig.gif

Scarym1
April 16th, 2005, 04:17 PM
I though you guys might be interested in my new Jack and Sam vid. :D

ANSWER By Sarah McLachlan.

http://www.angelfire.com/scary/stargate/

Spoilers for the last few eps of S8.:)

lonely_star
April 16th, 2005, 05:56 PM
I though you guys might be interested in my new Jack and Sam vid. :D

ANSWER By Sarah McLachlan.

http://www.angelfire.com/scary/stargate/

Spoilers for the last few eps of S8.:)

NICE !! thanks so much !! :p come back with more when you want !!! :D like your sig too :-) i'm very open minded...and can recognise and admit a guy is cute :p even if us shipper would like to shout at him sometimes :D

Cassie
April 16th, 2005, 06:15 PM
bouh!!! :( i'm sad i can't spread my love guys...my rep points don't work...but i'll grow up and give points to you as soon as i can cause you're all so nice and helpfull ! thanks again in particular MB for your nice sig !! ;-)...and like alaskhah (you could have chosen an easier spelling !! LOL ) i'm waiting for the part 3 !! ;-)

WELCOME Lonely_Star to the Shipper Family!!!! :D

Cause you can't spread the luve right now all give you some. Who doesn't luve Green Jello!!!!! :D

lonely_star
April 16th, 2005, 06:31 PM
WELCOME Lonely_Star to the Shipper Family!!!! :D

Cause you can't spread the luve right now all give you some. Who doesn't luve Green Jello!!!!! :D

thanks Cassie!!and thanks all :) Love being here !!! :p

Cassie
April 16th, 2005, 06:38 PM
Grace is over...what an episode! like the way it's filmed, to give the spectator this feeling of desorientation than Sam lives...that's cool...sorry guys i'm an audiovisual stud so i'm pretty into realisation...anyway this episode shows once again AT's talent
one little regret, jack looks old in this conversation with sam, don't ya think? but still love him ;-)

love, love, love that ep. THE KISS!!!
Yep I agree with ya that Jack did look a little weird in the 1st conversation he had with her. He seemed really upset :( And now that I think of it wasn't Sam only hearing what she wanted to hear. In the 2nd conversation he had with her Jack was totally flirting with her! :) *sigh*

Cassie
April 16th, 2005, 06:41 PM
Well if you like that, you may like this too. I made an animated banner for you (I'm in a creative mood today :D):


http://www.powerpromoz.com/stargate/lonelystarsig.gif

Great one Uber!
Well sense your in your creative mood today welling to make another one......nudge,nudge,wink,wink ;)

Uber
April 16th, 2005, 06:42 PM
Great one Uber!
Well sense your in your creative mood today welling to make another one......nudge,nudge,wink,wink ;)
What do you have in mind?

Cassie
April 16th, 2005, 06:45 PM
Anything Shippy!!! (can ya tell I seem desperate) THANKS!

lonely_star
April 16th, 2005, 06:50 PM
you won't regret it !!! ;) she rocks ! :cool:

hope to see that soon !!!

Uber
April 16th, 2005, 06:54 PM
Anything Shippy!!! (can ya tell I seem desperate) THANKS!
Well that's a smidge general...

Let's be more specific, shall we? :D

Is there a specific scene or moment you enjoy the most? Maybe even one that isn't necessarily one of the standard ship moments...

Is there a motto or slogan you like?

lonely_star
April 16th, 2005, 06:58 PM
is Marimba one of the shipper of the family thread ?? I totally LOVE your vids !!!
especially Love's divine with Jack's face after his discussion with kerry !! love that moment !! and it's going so well with the music !! gosh love that !!! thanks so much !!
the same for Making love out of nothing at all !! so cool !! :p
well there are too many but I love all of them !! thanks and congrats !!
for those you don't have the link : http://www.marimba26.com/JackandSamAlwaysVideos.html

Cassie
April 16th, 2005, 07:09 PM
Yep I think she is! :D
Here's a couple more Vid. links that Tame posted a couple days back!!!
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?p=429032#post429032

Uber check your PM's :)

girlgater
April 16th, 2005, 07:24 PM
Hey everybody. I had to let you guys know that I have a wonderful husband who surprised me with Season 7 on DVD this afternoon! What makes this so great is that I haven't seen but a couple of the episodes. I am forcing myself to watch them in sequence rather than jumping to Grace and Heroes as I know those are a must see for shippers. I can't wait for the KISS!! :D Any news from Vancouver?

lonely_star
April 16th, 2005, 08:26 PM
Any news from Vancouver?

nope nothing yet...

i'm going through some vids now, has anyone ever made one with Damien Rice's Music ?? it should be awesome ! :rolleyes:

lonely_star
April 16th, 2005, 08:36 PM
wow !! I've just seen the new spoilers for season 9!

"The Fourth Horseman"Orlin is Back !!they say about "Actor Sean Patrick Flannery has not yet been confirmed to reprise his role, the show's producers told GateWorld. In the unfortunate event that he cannot, the part will likely be rewritten as a different Ancient -- though the inclusion of Orlin's past relationship with Sam would complicate such a change."

:eek: :eek: :eek: and one more...after Barret and Baal...Orlin !! :S Sam and Jack's relationship 'd better be very strong to resist all those...cuties?? lol
well, let's wait and see if they write it for an other Ancient, and let's believe in our Jack and Sam Forever !!! but I have to admit the further it goes the worst it goes... don't feel good!! need some good shippy vids !!! :p

Hex.FTB.enabled
April 16th, 2005, 08:51 PM
*pokes head in from mountain of work* Uber, I understand the sentiment. I've been reading since I woke up til, well, now and I my head is pounding. Had a nice surprise though, stopped to take a shower and I turned on my TV to just stare at something other than writing for a moment, and caught the end of Grace. It made me feel better. :)

And for the person who was asking what a good S/J song was, I thought of the perfect one: At Last by Etta James. Classic, and so very very perfect for our favorite ship.

LOL4JACK
April 16th, 2005, 09:19 PM
I agree Rogue.Most Shippers are using our common sense.Sadly TPTB have used very little sense when it comes to the Sam character.I think TPTB and AT would Love to return Sam to the way she was in earlier Seasons.I think they had enough of Sam's personal life the last 2 Years.I just think if we do not see Jack and Sam together in Season 9 there may be pressure to bring in someone else for Sam.We've gone from Sam having no personal Life to Sam being the most popular Woman in the galaxy.

Well, she did after all blow up a Sun :D :D :D :D

Uber
April 16th, 2005, 09:32 PM
Well, she did after all blow up a Sun :D :D :D :D
It's amazing how not worried I am about Season 9.

In looking at the big picture...and I mean the ENTIRE SERIES...I can see hints and glimpses of what the writers envision for the two of them for the long run.

Does that mean we'll get a gate room wedding like Ryac had? Of course not (thank goodness...that just seems a little hokey for these two). And it may not even mean that we'll see a full onscreen resolution this season.

But I personally believe that the writers have delved into the Sam/Jack shipper cauldron with the deeper implications of Threads. They could have completely ignored the chemistry between the two of them, had them both get married off or whatever, and that would have been that. Fortunately, that's not what happened and as a result...we got fishing! :D

Not only would it be suicide for the show to have Sam pair off with someone else or whatever (as the shippers would leave in DROVES), but it would just be bad storytelling. To leave your fans who have been clamouring and begging for a romantic relationship between the two leads hanging...well, that would be criminally negligent...for example, X-Files (whoops, that was a little snarky of me).

I believe they'll take it somewhere...maybe not fully this season...but the can of worms is open (and that's a good thing, since they'll need those worms for the afforementioned fishing...)

:D

ForeverSg1
April 16th, 2005, 09:41 PM
A little shippy collage for your viewing pleasure...

HOME (http://img234.echo.cx/img234/892/home2gj.jpg)

Hope you like.
Kat

:D :D

LOL4JACK
April 16th, 2005, 09:43 PM
It's amazing how not worried I am about Season 9.

In looking at the big picture...and I mean the ENTIRE SERIES...I can see hints and glimpses of what the writers envision for the two of them for the long run.
:D
Uber, I was needing some shippy hope after reading that:
- RDA was saying good bye in the first 3 eps :eek: :S :eek: :S
- Orlin is coming back.... :S :eek: :S :eek:

And you just gave me S9 vision to keep.... You are so smart :P.... "In the long run... we know where the PTB are going and they will not kill an 8 year story line just because she is the Gal that blew up a sun :D :D :D"

majorsal
April 16th, 2005, 10:38 PM
Uber, I was needing some shippy hope after reading that:
- RDA was saying good bye in the first 3 eps :eek: :S :eek: :S
- Orlin is coming back.... :S :eek: :S :eek:

And you just gave me S9 vision to keep.... You are so smart :P.... "In the long run... we know where the PTB are going and they will not kill an 8 year story line just because she is the Gal that blew up a sun :D :D :D"

i'm using spoiler tags because... you did, and i'm not sure what to do :p

i know the spoilers about rda's visits to eps 1 and 3, but it sounds like there's more to it and i've missed it. where's the spoiler about rda saying goodbye in the first 3 eps? i'm hoping, praying, begging that he's back for some SHIPPY stuff with sam sometime later in the season!


sally :)

LOL4JACK
April 16th, 2005, 10:42 PM
i'm using spoiler tags because... you did, and i'm not sure what to do :p

i know the spoilers about rda's visits to eps 1 and 3, but it sounds like there's more to it and i've missed it. where's the spoiler about rda saying goodbye in the first 3 eps? i'm hoping, praying, begging that he's back for some SHIPPY stuff with sam sometime later in the season!


sally :)
Hi Sally,

I do not know how to paste links, but I'll try basic 101 :D, if it doesn't work it is in the homepage of Gateworld inside the news of Stargate premier on July 15th.

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2005/04/newseasontopremierejuly15.shtml

Carolina

ForeverSg1
April 16th, 2005, 11:14 PM
I think it's more Jack saying good-bye to the SGC and taking his new position. I feel really sad that AT won't be there as a member of the team to say good-bye to RDA, but I have to believe that we will see something between Sam/Jack on-screen...if only a phone call. They could still film those scenes with RDA in advance and add them in editing to AT's.



At least that's what I'm hoping.
Crossing fingers, eyes, toes...
Kat

LOL4JACK
April 16th, 2005, 11:18 PM
I think it's more Jack saying good-bye to the SGC and taking his new position. I feel really sad that AT won't be there as a member of the team to say good-bye to RDA, but I have to believe that we will see something between Sam/Jack on-screen...if only a phone call. They could still film those scenes with RDA in advance and add them in editing to AT's.



At least that's what I'm hoping.
Crossing fingers, eyes, toes...
Kat
As our wise Uber said, " Look at the big picture" = Sam & Jack Forever :D

Uber
April 16th, 2005, 11:34 PM
As our wise Uber said, " Look at the big picture" = Sam & Jack Forever :D
That would be Über the Great, Über the Wise, Über the Gracious, Über the Talented, Über the All Powerful and...

...Über the Humble.

:D

You know, editing is a wonderful thing. So are airplanes. For all we know, AT could film scenes (or already HAS filmed scenes) that will air as part of Jack's "official" farewell...or maybe for a future ep. Plus with the wonders of modern transportation, people can fly to a location in say L.A. and do a scene here and there.

I don't know...perhaps I'm just an eternal optimist...(well, okay, that's a bunch of bunk since sometimes I'm as pessimistic as it comes)...but I just cannot and do not accept that after riding the shipper wave and allowing the characters to act on their chemistry (and when I say act on it, I mean start to talk about it openly) that the writers would be so criminally insane as to completely drop the issue altogether.

For one thing, that would just be bad storytelling...you don't develop a major or even minor arc for the entire run of a series and then completely ignore it. It would be completely unnatural for the topic to not be at least addressed in some way next season. As relieved as I think Sam (and AT, I'm sure) is that she's finally settled on what or rather who she wants...I just do not believe she would forget about it now; that would be a dishonest portrayal of her to the character and the Jack/Sam saga.

It is curious though that some of her shoulda coulda woulda boyfriends of the past will be making some return appearances...and I hope at least in some part, those opportunities could be used to reinforce the Sam/Jack story.

Now I'm hoping that Season 9 will really focus on Sam as a team leader and kick butt super hero and not so much her interpersonal relationships (which big chunks of Season 8 dealt with nicely). That being said, there will be calls a la Citizen Joe or alluded to lunch dates or whatever that show that the ship sails on.

Über the "All of the above" has spoken.

:D

majorsal
April 16th, 2005, 11:41 PM
Hi Sally,

I do not know how to paste links, but I'll try basic 101 :D, if it doesn't work it is in the homepage of Gateworld inside the news of Stargate premier on July 15th.

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2005/04/newseasontopremierejuly15.shtml

Carolina

thanks, carolina. ;)

i didn't take much heed to it (other than i'm in love with rda and want to have his children... did i just say that out loud?) i just took it to mean that jack's leaving of the sgc will be explained and shown, other than him just suddenly being gone and we never got to say bye... :( sam, quickly, go give jack all your love! (try not to let your hands roam over his gorgeous and firm body while you're hugging him... well, you can, just be careful not to let others see you.... )


sally :p

sg-1fanintn
April 17th, 2005, 01:41 AM
You know, editing is a wonderful thing. So are airplanes. For all we know, AT could film scenes (or already HAS filmed scenes) that will air as part of Jack's "official" farewell...or maybe for a future ep. Plus with the wonders of modern transportation, people can fly to a location in say L.A. and do a scene here and there.

I don't know...perhaps I'm just an eternal optimist...(well, okay, that's a bunch of bunk since sometimes I'm as pessimistic as it comes)...but I just cannot and do not accept that after riding the shipper wave and allowing the characters to act on their chemistry (and when I say act on it, I mean start to talk about it openly) that the writers would be so criminally insane as to completely drop the issue altogether.

For one thing, that would just be bad storytelling...you don't develop a major or even minor arc for the entire run of a series and then completely ignore it. It would be completely unnatural for the topic to not be at least addressed in some way next season. As relieved as I think Sam (and AT, I'm sure) is that she's finally settled on what or rather who she wants...I just do not believe she would forget about it now; that would be a dishonest portrayal of her to the character and the Jack/Sam saga.

:D

Uber.....isn't it funny? A few days ago, you were pessimistic, and I was certain things would work out the way we want. Now, you're more positive than I am. I'm feeling very schizophrenic about this!

But on your comments about the integrity of the storyline, I so agree! They've brought the ship so far through S7 and S8. Both Sam and Jack have tried to move on with "attainable" relationships, and both have failed miserably in breaking free of the emotions that bind them to each other. They are just meant to be, and letting distance or BB or any other character get in between them now would definitely erode the integrity of Sam's character!

If I might digress on other great TV disappointments.....

1. Sam & Diane - heartbreak at the altar
2. David & Maddie - TPTB handled it SO WRONG!!!
3. Wriker & Troi - By the time it happened, the sexual tension was gone. No one cared!

Now is the time for Sam & Jack's relationship to move to the next level. Once it's resolved, it frees TPTB to let Sam be a real leader. Then, they can start throwing new women at Daniel, Teal'c and Cam until something sticks! But if they don't resolve Sam & Jack's love story with a little integrity, I just don't think I'll be able to watch anymore!!!!!

Uber
April 17th, 2005, 01:50 AM
Uber.....isn't it funny? A few days ago, you were pessimistic, and I was certain things would work out the way we want. Now, you're more positive than I am. I'm feeling very schizophrenic about this!

But on your comments about the integrity of the storyline, I so agree! They've brought the ship so far through S7 and S8. Both Sam and Jack have tried to move on with "attainable" relationships, and both have failed miserably in breaking free of the emotions that bind them to each other. They are just meant to be, and letting distance or BB or any other character get in between them now would definitely erode the integrity of Sam's character!

If I might digress on other great TV disappointments.....

1. Sam & Diane - heartbreak at the altar
2. David & Maddie - TPTB handled it SO WRONG!!!
3. Wriker & Troi - By the time it happened, the sexual tension was gone. No one cared!

Now is the time for Sam & Jack's relationship to move to the next level. Once it's resolved, it frees TPTB to let Sam be a real leader. Then, they can start throwing new women at Daniel, Teal'c and Cam until something sticks! But if they don't resolve Sam & Jack's love story with a little integrity, I just don't think I'll be able to watch anymore!!!!!
Hmm...you'll have to quote me where I've been too pessimistic about Jack and Sam...I think I've been fairly consistent in my belief that they'll end up together in the long run...

Perhaps the pessimism you read comes from the WHEN part of the equation.

Whereas I don't think that they'd be stupid enough to pair off either of them to someone else (as that would be filed under "been there, done that") I don't necessarily know if we'll get too much on screen resolution...unless perhaps it becomes apparent that season 9 is the swan song...

Which of course, I hope it isn't! I mean, Jack had 7 years as the leader of SG-1...at least let Sam have a few years before pulling the plug on the show!

:D

sg-1fanintn
April 17th, 2005, 02:00 AM
Maybe it was MajorSal then......It's late (or early!), depending on how you look at it. I thought I was the only person still posting in the eastern U.S.

It bothers me that they now say we'll be "shocked" at what they do, and that although we think we know what's going on, we don't. That came out of Vancouver Saturday. "Shocked" is such a negative word. "Surprised," I could have accepted.

I've now moved to "worst case scenario" mode. The worst thing they could do to shock me would be:



....to kill Jack off, allow Sam to deal with her grief; then let her start rebounding with other guys. EEEWWWWWWEEEEE!

Remember in the first season of "The West Wing," when they killed off Mrs. Landingham, who had been Jed Bartlett's secretary since he got out of school. It was awful! But it was a wonderful plot device in that it brought the President to a critical turning point in his life.

Then again, he didn't have access to a sarchophagus!



Ok, now I know it's time to go to bed! I need some light, shippy fic to restore my normal optimistic outlook!

pittsburghgirl
April 17th, 2005, 03:05 AM
Maybe it was MajorSal then......It's late (or early!), depending on how you look at it. I thought I was the only person still posting in the eastern U.S.

It bothers me that they now say we'll be "shocked" at what they do, and that although we think we know what's going on, we don't. That came out of Vancouver Saturday. "Shocked" is such a negative word. "Surprised," I could have accepted.

I've now moved to "worst case scenario" mode. The worst thing they could do to shock me would be:



....to kill Jack off, allow Sam to deal with her grief; then let her start rebounding with other guys. EEEWWWWWWEEEEE!

Remember in the first season of "The West Wing," when they killed off Mrs. Landingham, who had been Jed Bartlett's secretary since he got out of school. It was awful! But it was a wonderful plot device in that it brought the President to a critical turning point in his life.

Then again, he didn't have access to a sarchophagus!



Ok, now I know it's time to go to bed! I need some light, shippy fic to restore my normal optimistic outlook!
so some stuff has been coming out of the vancouver con???

Catysg1
April 17th, 2005, 03:24 AM
*pokes head in from mountain of work* Uber, I understand the sentiment. I've been reading since I woke up til, well, now and I my head is pounding. Had a nice surprise though, stopped to take a shower and I turned on my TV to just stare at something other than writing for a moment, and caught the end of Grace. It made me feel better. :)

And for the person who was asking what a good S/J song was, I thought of the perfect one: At Last by Etta James. Classic, and so very very perfect for our favorite ship.


I made a video with that song .It's in my website but it was made a few months ago and don't include the spoilers from Season 8 ...or I don't think so if I remember well ..still ...I think it's quite good ...:)


Caty:)

Catysg1
April 17th, 2005, 03:37 AM
Hey everyone, sorry I haven't been on lately i've been working alot. However, for the past few days i've been sent home sick after a few hours. :(

Anyhoo, spent a LONG while also reading the fanfic that was suggested in the second post on page 44 if anyone wants to go check it out, its tops!

And does anyone have any ideas for where I could host only one vid file that is less than 20MB? I still have that ship vid to get posted :)

Had a shippy moment tonight in the staff room!! I was listening to 'LA Confidential' on the TV and someone goes "Hey Sam and Jack"I was like :eek: hehehe

Its a shame that no one would have any idea what I was saying if I pointed that out. lol

Have a good one :)

P.S- I'm having some friends over for a stargate viewing, mum's calling it "Stargate Club" and we're thinking of making it an official club at our Uni, there's one for picnics so we can have a stargate one surely! lol


Elkeli ..I told you I could host it for you for a while ..but you need to send it to me first :)


and Sam and Jack forever always with a few shippy scenes in season 9 :)


Caty:)

Catysg1
April 17th, 2005, 03:46 AM
first of all, thanks for the welcome guys, I already feel at home
shimmering star :I liked Choices a lot and your sig is awesome!! ;)

I agree with you with how Sam (season9) could be used and turned in a Barbie Girl, I'm kind of worried about that cause she's gonna be the only female star after Vala leaves and with a male character like BB(Ben not Beau :D )...
But I think we don't have to worry as much, let's wait and see, the Sam character is not one easily falling for someone and at the latest news, she already fell for someone :p ;)
Sam/Baal seems totally ridiculous to me, I'm more afraid by a Barret than a Baal but as majorsal pointed out, Sam is kindly gonna turn him down ;-) (love your vision of the scene !! if only could be true!! )

Anyway, even if it's the easy solution to turn Sam into THE attraction for guests male stars, I don't think (and hope) they'll do it, it should be a big disapointment for all sg1 fan and not only the shippers. they spent the last 8 years trying to build an independent and strong female charcater i don't think they'll screw up it all like that...as kerry would say... just a thought... ;)


Spoiler season 9 if Sam wanted to be with Barrett, she had every opportunity to do so back in the early years ..I really don't think Baa'l, Barrett and orlin are here to take Sam away from Jack in a romantic way ...but they may be here to taste the water ...and see if she is free .....like little comments about Going out for Diner from Barrett ..then Sam would say ..that she is with someone she loves ...Bla bla bla . :D

For Orlin , he may pay her a visit ..and tell her that he still loves her ...but Sam told him in Ascencion that she didn't love him ...she really liked him ....and she could tell him that she loves somebody else.

As For Baa'l ..the only think I think could happen there ..is He may kidnapp her so That Jack reacts and comes back to save her ....This last one could be a great episode ....I don't think Baa'l is there for any romance with Sam but as I say ..he may get her so that Jack comes to the rescue ..I would love to see that ...a real dramatic Sam and Jack episode with the bad Baa'l as long as he does not torture her too much ..or kill her many times like he did with Jack :(


Caty:)

ohshocking
April 17th, 2005, 04:34 AM
Spoiler season 9 As For Baa'l ..the only think I think could happen there ..is He may kidnapp her so That Jack reacts and comes back to save her ....This last one could be a great episode ....I don't think Baa'l is there for any romance with Sam but as I say ..he may get her so that Jack comes to the rescue ..I would love to see that ...a real dramatic Sam and Jack episode with the bad Baa'l as long as he does not torture her too much ..or kill her many times like he did with Jack :(

Caty:)
Now that is an episode I would love to see! I have to agree that Sam/Ba'al romance wouldn't happen, but the kidnapping idea could, and it could be a fantastic shippy ep :) But yes, less torturing this time!

LOL4JACK
April 17th, 2005, 07:04 AM
I've now moved to "worst case scenario" mode. The worst thing they could do to shock me would be:


....to kill Jack off, allow Sam to deal with her grief; then let her start rebounding with other guys. EEEWWWWWWEEEEE!


Ok, now I know it's time to go to bed! I need some light, shippy fic to restore my normal optimistic outlook!

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Worts case scenario !!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Having heart attack.... :eek: :eek: can't breath... need mouth to mouth..... is RDA around :D

Catysg1
April 17th, 2005, 07:43 AM
New video " My Baby you " :)Marc Anthony
Stunning song and music :)

When he says "Ariana" at the end of the song ..just pretend he says "Samantha" :)


Caty :)

Lunar
April 17th, 2005, 08:07 AM
Great, I take a few days away from the site and guess what?
s9 I find that not one but TWO of Sam's ex love-interests are back next season. Bang goes my hope that we'd have none of this ridiculous ship-the-main-characters-with-guest of the week... Plus, I think I'm the only person in the world that doesn't greatly like Vala/Daniel ship... and really, REALLY hopes they're not going to *blatantly* run with it, because that would be GREATLY unfair after all the pussyfooting around they did with Sam/Jack. It'd be a real kick in the teeth.

Catysg1
April 17th, 2005, 08:21 AM
Great, I take a few days away from the site and guess what?
s9 I find that not one but TWO of Sam's ex love-interests are back next season. Bang goes my hope that we'd have none of this ridiculous ship-the-main-characters-with-guest of the week... Plus, I think I'm the only person in the world that doesn't greatly like Vala/Daniel ship... and really, REALLY hopes they're not going to *blatantly* run with it, because that would be GREATLY unfair after all the pussyfooting around they did with Sam/Jack. It'd be a real kick in the teeth.


I agree Lunar ..I hope TPTB is not gonna go for an obvious ship between Vala/Daniel ....It could be a good reason for me to stop watching ..after what they put us through with Sam and Jack ...I don't understand why Daniel can kiss anybody he wants for real ...and not Sam and Jack ..I know it's because the Sam and Jack ship is so popular that ..they have to keep things hanging on every season ..and add a bit more the following season but really ...we need to see Sam and Jack kiss for real before the end of season 9 because I really think this is it for both of them ( RDA AND AT)...and I hope so ...but I really do hope that RDA will be coming back for a few cameos if it is the last season for him and Amanda Tapping ...I'm sure RDA knows that a lot of shipper fans won't be buying the DVD's if Sam and Jack are not together on screen in season 9

Caty:)

Rogue
April 17th, 2005, 08:24 AM
Great, I take a few days away from the site and guess what?
s9 I find that not one but TWO of Sam's ex love-interests are back next season. Bang goes my hope that we'd have none of this ridiculous ship-the-main-characters-with-guest of the week... Plus, I think I'm the only person in the world that doesn't greatly like Vala/Daniel ship... and really, REALLY hopes they're not going to *blatantly* run with it, because that would be GREATLY unfair after all the pussyfooting around they did with Sam/Jack. It'd be a real kick in the teeth.

Yeah, now all we need is Narim and Joe to show up.

ohshocking
April 17th, 2005, 08:26 AM
New video " My Baby you " :)Marc Anthony
Stunning song and music :)

When he says "Ariana" at the end of the song ..just pretend he says "Samantha" :)

Caty :)
Lovely song, lovely video!

Thanks for sharing, that was brilliant. The clips fit really well with the lyrics, especilly the first bit 'as I look into your eyes...' with the D&C forcefield clip - perfect! :)

Edited to add: My 50th post! :P

Catysg1
April 17th, 2005, 08:28 AM
Yeah, now all we need is Narim and Joe to show up.


They are both dead but you never know !!! :rolleyes: I thought Orlin was dead too ..but I suppose he only ascended ...still don't understand why Sam was so sad at the end then !!!!

Caty:)

LOL4JACK
April 17th, 2005, 08:29 AM
New video " My Baby you " :)Marc Anthony
Stunning song and music :)

When he says "Ariana" at the end of the song ..just pretend he says "Samantha" :)


Caty :)
Cathy, Thanks!!!! just what I needed to recover from heart attack....

But after the vid, still can't breath, so, so, good :p (RDA, where are you?) :(

Carolina

PS: That last hug in your vid, where is it from?

Rogue
April 17th, 2005, 08:33 AM
They are both dead but you never know !!! :rolleyes: I thought Orlin was dead too ..but I suppose he only ascended ...still don't understand why Sam was so sad at the end then !!!!

Caty:)

Well we assume they are dead, but they didn't actually show them dying.
Narim could have escaped to another planet and Joe could be a prisioner.

Catysg1
April 17th, 2005, 08:54 AM
Cathy, Thanks!!!! just what I needed to recover from heart attack....

But after the vid, still can't breath, so, so, good :p (RDA, where are you?) :(

Carolina

PS: That last hug in your vid, where is it from?


the 2 last hugs in "My Baby you" are from fire and water and Moebius :)

Caty:)

Catysg1
April 17th, 2005, 08:55 AM
Well we assume they are dead, but they didn't actually show them dying.
Narim could have escaped to another planet and Joe could be a prisioner.


True :)

Caty:)

lonely_star
April 17th, 2005, 08:58 AM
thanks guys !! I felt a little pessimistic yesterday but I feel much more better now !! :D

a few messages, a few vids and some fan fic...the perfect recipe for an optimistic shippy day !! :D :p

I really do hope AT filmed some shots for season 9 and that they will use them during the 3first episodes...because it would be so sad if she doesn't even say goodbye...(euh sorry, it's just an aurevoir !! :D )...to Jack...

Caty, loved your Baal-kidnapping-Sam story! That is an episode I'd love to see !!! :p

and Uber I agree with you, I hope they'll show us Sam as a leader kicking butts !!The show was so melodrama in season8 !!! I want the SF BACK !!!!! :o

LOL4JACK
April 17th, 2005, 09:05 AM
the 2 last hugs in "My Baby you" are from fire and water and Moebius :)

Caty:)
Thanks! I had the Moebius under control, I mean, how can we forget :D but Fire & Water had me totally lost, since it happened let's say before shipping started for real.... can you imagine that hug happening after D/C Ahhhhhh, definitely it would have been out of this world.

I just finished to watch Lost City's Commentaries and they said that the first "shippy" moment was non scripted, it came from the chemistry between RDA/AT.... In out of Mind when they hugged, it was so meaningful that it opened all the possibilities :P and it was when the produceres and writers started considering that "there could be something there" :D :D :D

LOL4JACK
April 17th, 2005, 09:10 AM
Lonely star congrats!!!! Your a Mature Symbiote!!!!!!! :D :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

sueKay
April 17th, 2005, 09:13 AM
Hey there!

How are we all????

Re: season nine spoilers
*sticks fingers in ears*

la la la la la la la la

Who are Orlin and Barrett???? :P

I hope Barrett's just there so that Sam can say "sorry...I'm seeing someone."

But as sad as this is for me to admit...my interest in Stargate is swaying...I'm just...I dunno...too tired to really care anymore.

Saying that...if they're going to Ship Daniel/Vala...I may start an anti-shipping thread...cos that would be a kick in the teeth to us.

On a happier note...I'm writing a new fanfic...it's an AU, but I hope you'll like it...I'm going to do the same as MB...write it in big chunks rather than seperate chapters, as when I do that, I rarely start writing again.

Righto...I'll get on and write and I'll pop in later.

lonely_star
April 17th, 2005, 09:37 AM
Lonely star congrats!!!! Your a Mature Symbiote!!!!!!! :D :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

(((((LOL4JACK)))))))
:eek: wow !! I haven't noticed !!! YAY !!!! :cool: Thanks !!!!

caty your vids rock !!!! love them but there are SO many !!!

SueKay hope you'll finish your fan fic soon!! i'm looking forward reading it !!!
have a good shippy day everyone...and YAY for my mature symbiote !!! :p :D

Twisted Angel (Sam_rules)
April 17th, 2005, 11:12 AM
Hey all! :)

Taking time off from my uni preparations to come and say hey! :)

I have read some the spoilers for season 9 and I have to say it is getting a little annoying...
Why bring Orlin and Barrett back! Although Barrett isn't as bad and it would be a real plus if he asked her out only for her to say, 'I am seeing someone'. 'Cos obviously it wouldn't be Pete so it would be Jack (we hope lol)! :D And I agree with Lunar about if tptb start with Daniel/Vala ship, it would be a huge kick in the teeth! And I think a lot of people would have a few words to say about it too!

Oh and Caty, you have a sig back! :D:D That is very cool, glad you decided to have one again! Oh and I am just catching up on all the new vids you have done! :)

Oh and one last thing. Thank you to everyone who gave me some rep points. I now have my first radioactive block! :D

~Tracey~

sueKay
April 17th, 2005, 11:37 AM
(((((Tracey)))))))

Good luck with Uni!

Caty - lovin the sig pic, but I've decided to pack in fandom after all...I've just not got enough time anymore.

Twisted Angel (Sam_rules)
April 17th, 2005, 11:45 AM
(((((Tracey)))))))

Good luck with Uni!

Caty - lovin the sig pic, but I've decided to pack in fandom after all...I've just not got enough time anymore.

(((((((SueKay)))))))))

I wanted to rep you but I have to spread some more love before I can!

Thank you! :) I am so nervous about tomorrow. I don't have to enroll until 2pm though so it's not so bad! I think I shall watch some shippy episodes soon to calm me down a bit! ;)

Oh and cool you are writing a new fic, can't wait to read it! :D

~Tracey~

Uber
April 17th, 2005, 11:49 AM
Yeah, now all we need is Narim and Joe to show up.
It's funny you should say that because I posted this on the Sam's a Great Character Thread yesterday...

It's funny...because we were speaking openly about what's being proposed openly and no one was really using spoiler tags....

But I'll be a good little System Lord and use them here:

I hope it will be Orlin but of course it depends on Sean Patrick Flannery's schedule...

I think I'd be disappointed if it were just "another" ancient since there's an established relationship/rapport between the two...and now with the political structure on earth changing so rapidly and with Carter the head of the team, things are different now and it would be neat to see how they'd relate to each other now.

Then of course there's the whole personal relationship thing...so what is next year going to be? Resurrect all of Carter's woulda coulda shoulda boyfriends??? Who's next on the list?

Narim?

Martouf???

Or maybe Pete can make a return visit. Oh wait, Joe Mallozzi said that there's no plans to bring back Pete unless Sam has a change of heart. (thankfully, he said "Just kidding" afterwards).

Catysg1
April 17th, 2005, 11:51 AM
Hey all! :)

Taking time off from my uni preparations to come and say hey! :)

I have read some the spoilers for season 9 and I have to say it is getting a little annoying...
Why bring Orlin and Barrett back! Although Barrett isn't as bad and it would be a real plus if he asked her out only for her to say, 'I am seeing someone'. 'Cos obviously it wouldn't be Pete so it would be Jack (we hope lol)! :D And I agree with Lunar about if tptb start with Daniel/Vala ship, it would be a huge kick in the teeth! And I think a lot of people would have a few words to say about it too!

Oh and Caty, you have a sig back! :D:D That is very cool, glad you decided to have one again! Oh and I am just catching up on all the new vids you have done! :)

Oh and one last thing. Thank you to everyone who gave me some rep points. I now have my first radioactive block! :D

~Tracey~



Hi ((((((((((Tracey)))))))))))))) :)


Congrats on your green radioactive :)
Yeah decided to put bit of colour in my sig with some of my collages to show the ship that I like ..Unfortunatlely I couldn't not fit them all . :(

and if tptb decides to ship Vala/Daniel in season 9 I also will join the anti ship thread for that couple ...but Hopefully MS did say he was not interested in being part of any ship so tptb will leave it to that :)

and as for Sam and Jack I'm not worried because the end of season 8 did point out that they were starting a relationship ..I'm pretty sure that Barrett and Orlin will be there for an interesting storyline but also for Sam letting know that she is taken ...I can only see it that way ..if one of them was asking her out ...and she will not say " I'm kind of seeing someone at the moment" but more something like " I have been in love with someone for a long time and I'm now in a relationship with that man ...and oh so very happy "
Baa'l I think is only there I think to capture her may be in one episode where hopefully Daniel and Teal'c will contact Jack to let him know because he knows Baa'ls work of mind and will probably appear in that one because of the extreme situation his darling is in ..hehehehehe want to see that ...that will make my day ...and if we get an episode dedicated to Sam. Jack and Baa'l with some dramatic scenes ..and some shippy scenes ..then I may get season 9 DVD's ...but if we don't see Sam and Jack together somehow ..I won't get anything :)

:)

Caty :)

Catysg1
April 17th, 2005, 11:58 AM
It's funny you should say that because I posted this on the Sam's a Great Character Thread yesterday...

It's funny...because we were speaking openly about what's being proposed openly and no one was really using spoiler tags....

But I'll be a good little System Lord and use them here:

I hope it will be Orlin but of course it depends on Sean Patrick Flannery's schedule...

I think I'd be disappointed if it were just "another" ancient since there's an established relationship/rapport between the two...and now with the political structure on earth changing so rapidly and with Carter the head of the team, things are different now and it would be neat to see how they'd relate to each other now.

Then of course there's the whole personal relationship thing...so what is next year going to be? Resurrect all of Carter's woulda coulda shoulda boyfriends??? Who's next on the list?

Narim?

Martouf???

Or maybe Pete can make a return visit. Oh wait, Joe Mallozzi said that there's no plans to bring back Pete unless Sam has a change of heart. (thankfully, he said "Just kidding" afterwards).

Martouff is really dead ..so he is out ..Shame they had to kill his character ..I really liked all the episodes he was in ..He was a sweetie ..and Jack was always a bit agitated when Martouff was around Sam :)

Caty:)

Twisted Angel (Sam_rules)
April 17th, 2005, 12:43 PM
Hi ((((((((((Tracey)))))))))))))) :)


Congrats on your green radioactive :)
Yeah decided to put bit of colour in my sig with some of my collages to show the ship that I like ..Unfortunatlely I couldn't not fit them all . :(

and if tptb decides to ship Vala/Daniel in season 9 I also will join the anti ship thread for that couple ...but Hopefully MS did say he was not interested in being part of any ship so tptb will leave it to that :)

and as for Sam and Jack I'm not worried because the end of season 8 did point out that they were starting a relationship ..I'm pretty sure that Barrett and Orlin will be there for an interesting storyline but also for Sam letting know that she is taken ...I can only see it that way ..if one of them was asking her out ...and she will not say " I'm kind of seeing someone at the moment" but more something like " I have been in love with someone for a long time and I'm now in a relationship with that man ...and oh so very happy "
Baa'l I think is only there I think to capture her may be in one episode where hopefully Daniel and Teal'c will contact Jack to let him know because he knows Baa'ls work of mind and will probably appear in that one because of the extreme situation his darling is in ..hehehehehe want to see that ...that will make my day ...and if we get an episode dedicated to Sam. Jack and Baa'l with some dramatic scenes ..and some shippy scenes ..then I may get season 9 DVD's ...but if we don't see Sam and Jack together somehow ..I won't get anything :)

:)

Caty :)
(((((((Caty))))))))) :D

Thank you... you were the one who gave me it! :)
They are really nice sigs. It was about time you had a Sam and Jack on there too! I missed that! :) Aaawww, but at least you have the important ones! :)

You know I am in total agreement and I will be right there with you I will join the anti ship thread for them as well 'cos it would just not be fair if they shoved Daniel/Vala ship down our throats when they hardly ever did it with Sam and Jack! Yeah I remember he said that so *fingers crossed*!

I am not so much worried about Sam and Jack either, it is just that it is annoying bringing people back who like Sam... but who knows, they could end up being good stories. I guess we just have to wait and see how it all pans out! LOL! Now that would be so cool if Sam got to say that to Barrett! Caty, you should put you tptb hat back on and pitch the idea to the other ptb! ;)
I am not worried about Ba'al either. And I think he is pretty cute so it will be nice to see him back! ;) Yeah I would love to see that too. I am not holding my breath but I still have both fingers crossed (very tightly) that we will get a Sam and Jack scene! :)

~Tracey~

Uber
April 17th, 2005, 12:58 PM
and if tptb decides to ship Vala/Daniel in season 9 I also will join the anti ship thread for that couple ...but Hopefully MS did say he was not interested in being part of any ship so tptb will leave it to that :)Yeah, I don't get the feeling that MS likes ANY ship in any long term form...but I like Vala (I love Claudia Black from Farscape days...and it's fun seeing her in a very non-Aeryn like role...so let's see what happens but I'm predicting a whole lot of nothing between the two of them (as far as something long term goes...
and as for Sam and Jack I'm not worried because the end of season 8 did point out that they were starting a relationship ..I'm pretty sure that Barrett and Orlin will be there for an interesting storyline but also for Sam letting know that she is taken ...I can only see it that way ..if one of them was asking her out ...and she will not say " I'm kind of seeing someone at the moment" but more something like " I have been in love with someone for a long time and I'm now in a relationship with that man ...and oh so very happy "
:)And for those that would say how silly they'd use the same plot device two times in the same season (that being two men from her past possibly hitting on her) for the purpose of reinforcing the J/S ship and giving Sam the chance to say something like, "That's sweet (fill in name of loser)...but sorry I'm involved with someone," ...may I please direct your attention to Full Alert and Citizen Joe, where Jack's house was broken into TWICE ...and they even made a joke about it!


http://www.powerpromoz.com/stargate/citizenjoe_barber.jpg
Jack: He's a barber.

http://www.powerpromoz.com/stargate/citizenjoe_1.jpg
Daniel: Broke into your house?

http://www.powerpromoz.com/stargate/citizenjoe_2.jpg
Jack: Yeah.

http://www.powerpromoz.com/stargate/citizenjoe_3.jpg
Daniel: Second week in a row.

http://www.powerpromoz.com/stargate/citizenjoe_4.jpg
Jack: Mm-hmm.

http://www.powerpromoz.com/stargate/citizenjoe_5.jpg
Daniel (pointedly): Alarm.

http://www.powerpromoz.com/stargate/citizenjoe_6.jpg
Jack: I'm thinkin' dog.

http://www.powerpromoz.com/stargate/citizenjoe_7.jpg
Joe: You could try locking your front door.


:D

Uber
April 17th, 2005, 01:34 PM
And although Citizen Joe was not a shippy episode per se, it was a really good clip show (but then, I LIKE clip shows) with some nice shippy moments...

For instance:

Sam's non-work related call to Jack (or did he call her?? Hmmm...):

http://www.powerpromoz.com/stargate/citizenjoe_sam.jpg http://www.powerpromoz.com/stargate/citizenjoe_jack.jpg

Jack's reaction to Joe's telling him he won't breathe a word about his feelings for (dot dot dot) :D

http://www.powerpromoz.com/stargate/citizenjoe_feelings.jpg

And then there's Sam's reaction to Joe bringing up that "whole Pete Shanahan thing"...

http://www.powerpromoz.com/stargate/citizenjoe_petething.jpg

:D

sg-1fanintn
April 17th, 2005, 02:04 PM
Ten weeks til July......10 long, long weeks!

Lunar
April 17th, 2005, 02:05 PM
I would like to thank all the people here in the past who have green repped me, and especially SueKay who has finally tipped the scales and made me a system lord! Mwahahaha!!
On an On Topic Note:
I have a hard time believing they'd really go down the Barrett/Sam/Orlin road... but then, I had a hard time believing Sam Carter would really say yes to a man who walked out on her just because she couldn't tell him about her work... :rolleyes: so I'll wait and see...
I keep meaning to write a future set fic based on the limited spoilers at our disposal but... I dunno. Moebius II was, for me Such a let down!! I needed a bit more closure than what we got, after :eek: and from what I've read on the spoiler front, we ain't gettin' it.
:(
My first decree as a System Lord is therefore:
Sam/Jack Kiss (real life, not under alien/drug influence, not under pain of torture/death etc) in season 9!!

Catysg1
April 17th, 2005, 02:18 PM
Thank you Uber for all those Citizen Joe pics :) Nice to see Sam and Jack on the phone and Jack's reaction to Joe 's little comments on somebody's feelings :)

Caty ;)

sg-1fanintn
April 17th, 2005, 03:30 PM
I don't mean to interrupt the thread thought, but has anyone tried to use the Fan Fic search in the last couple of days? Suddenly, when I ask it to look for stories posted in the last 30 days, it comes up with only two results!!!!

I know I've posted something in the last 30 days, and so have Shimmering Star and Uber. But they're not showing up in the quick search. Can anyone tell me what's up?

Uber
April 17th, 2005, 04:24 PM
I don't mean to interrupt the thread thought, but has anyone tried to use the Fan Fic search in the last couple of days? Suddenly, when I ask it to look for stories posted in the last 30 days, it comes up with only two results!!!!

I know I've posted something in the last 30 days, and so have Shimmering Star and Uber. But they're not showing up in the quick search. Can anyone tell me what's up?
Um...actually, I've not posted anything to the Fan Fic section of the site yet :o

I guess I wanted to see what kind of response I got for my stories before REALLY opening up and posting them on GW... I know. I'm a coward.

btw, did you get my email sg-1fanintn???

ses110
April 17th, 2005, 04:28 PM
So much for wrapping up the old story lines Lunar.I was afraid of this happening and I mentioned it Yesterday.TPTB are bringing back every one of Sam's Man Friends.The've come running since Jack is not going to be around.Even if Sam does not get involved with them and I doubt she will it will look pathetic watching all the Male guest Star's falling for Sam once again.Good Luck to all those watching Season 9.Your going to need it.I admire your courage.

ses110
April 17th, 2005, 04:39 PM
Rogue it's only a matter of time before we see Joe Martouf and Narim.TPTB are eating this up.They Love to mess with the Shippers.This is why I'am putting a stop to the Madness.Jack is pretty much gone and TPTB are bringing back every Male guest Star who is in Love with Sam and there will probaly be new guest Stars.Season 9 sounds great.Very little Jack no Sam and Jack Ship and the same annoying Male guest stars who never saw another Beautiful Women besides Sam.Season 9 sounds 10 times worse than Season 8 and that's saying something.

ses110
April 17th, 2005, 04:48 PM
sueKay Season 9 sounds like a total Nightmare.I'am way beyond Swaying.I was going to watch some of Episode 1 and 3 with Jack but now I'am not sure I can even watch the Jack parts.It just seems like Season 8 was everyday brings more Bad News about Season 9.TPTB seem to be on a Mission to destroy the Sam and Jack Ship for Good.It's bad enough we may get no Sam and Jack at all and now it's back to Sam and the guest Star of the week.If I was an Actor I would not want this for my Character.

Cassie
April 17th, 2005, 04:54 PM
hehehehe Thanks for the Clips Uber!
Maybe Jack left he's door unlocked because he was waiting for Sam ;) Pulling at strings here I know.

Cassie
April 17th, 2005, 04:57 PM
Agree with ya Ses110 that it is getting old. TPTB need to stop pulling at us were only human!!!
For me no ship in S9 then no money from me :P

Rogue
April 17th, 2005, 05:05 PM
Agree with ya Ses110 that it is getting old. TPTB need to stop pulling at us were only human!!!
For me no ship in S9 then no money from me :P

I have already decided I am not buying season 8. I am not spending $40 for Reckoning 2 and a "always".

ses110
April 17th, 2005, 05:06 PM
Cassie I'am getting to old for this.IMO the Show and the Sam character are becoming sad.I want to remember the Show and the Sam character for what it was.I think Jack is lucky to be away in DC.It will be better for his long term Mental Health.I hate to say this but I now understand why Pete moved so fast.Pete knew like the rest of us the next Guy was right around the corner.TPTB keep saying they want to go in a new direction for Season 9 so why are all these old characters showing up?Why not bring back some of these characters and stories when RDA was still on a full schedule?This is also the same group who said Season 8 would be the best.

Rogue
April 17th, 2005, 05:11 PM
Cassie I'am getting to old for this.IMO the Show and the Sam character are becoming sad.I want to remember the Show and the Sam character for what it was.I think Jack is lucky to be away in DC.It will be better for his long term Mental Health.I hate to say this but I now understand why Pete moved so fast.Pete knew like the rest of us the next Guy was right around the corner.

What is really sad is Sam's character will take a hit to advance the story line. I have gone to other threads and there are some really horrible things said about Sam. One said she was stalking her CO and it just got worse from there.

ses110
April 17th, 2005, 05:24 PM
Rogue you figure after the Pete Fiasco and all the Male Guest Star falling for Sam over the Years TPTB and AT would want to stay clear of this mess for the Sam character.I though with Jack pretty much out of the way we would see Sam return to early Season Sam and not Barbie Sam.Many Fans have said they where turned off by the Sam and Jack Ship but I ask those same people is this better for the Show and the Sam character?IMO RDA and AT had great Chemistry and worked great together.I have no desire to watch all the same guest Stars falling for Sam for a second time and I have no desire to watch Sam play nice with characters like Baal.Sam needs to be more like Replicarter than Barbie.

pittsburghgirl
April 17th, 2005, 05:42 PM
has anyone heard anything at all coming out of the con?? I am not pleased to see the return of the 'EXes"-and what they are going to do to Sam this season. And Rogue is correct-what the other threads are doing to Sam becuz of the terrible way they are writing her-is absolutely unbelievable

Uber
April 17th, 2005, 05:48 PM
has anyone heard anything at all coming out of the con?? I am not pleased to see the return of the 'EXes"-and what they are going to do to Sam this season. And Rogue is correct-what the other threads are doing to Sam becuz of the terrible way they are writing her-is absolutely unbelievable
Okay. I'm in a mood to get irritated so I'll bite. What threads are posting these kinds of things about Sam?

Rogue
April 17th, 2005, 05:55 PM
Okay. I'm in a mood to get irritated so I'll bite. What threads are posting these kinds of things about Sam?

Which one do you think? I am not going to say it because I will get slammed.

ses110
April 17th, 2005, 06:00 PM
pittsburghgirl so far it sounds like nothing but bad news out of the con.What a surprise for Shippers.It also sounds like business as usual for Sam and her Male Fan Club.It's like the Sam character is stuck in a vicious cycle that gets worse all the time.The Sam character has gone from one of the best to one of the worst overnight.

Uber
April 17th, 2005, 06:06 PM
Which one do you think? I am not going to say it because I will get slammed.
I had actually forgotten about that thread...too traumatic of an experience I guess...

:D

ColonelWilliams
April 17th, 2005, 06:27 PM
could someone fill me in on what's goin on? i don't get it, what bad happened?

sg-1fanintn
April 17th, 2005, 07:16 PM
I posted this already on the "Sam's a Great Character" thread. I apologize to anyone who's reading it twice, but the two threads are generating so much similar worry about what's going on with TPTB right now that I felt it wouldn't be too bad to post it again. Even a nuance or a "You won't be disappointed" from Vancouver would make me feel better. I doubt we'll get that.

It occurs to me that we may be getting ourselves all upset over nothing. What do we really know? Not much: the names of a few possible guest stars in S9, who's joining the team, that Amanda probably won't be back until 907 (Olivia arrived late) and that RDA won't be a series regular. We also think that Arthurian legend will play a role in this season's developments.

That's all we really REALLY know. I've been a journalist for more than 20 years, and I know better than to deal in speculation, because it's usually WRONG. Beyond that, we're driving ourselves crazy with speculation on what might be, and I have a feeling TPTB are sitting around laughing at us because of it! It's their job to keep us guessing and upset, so we don't go out to dinner on season premiere night.

I'm just going to have to step back, take a deep breath and not worry about all these negative scenarios. As I said earlier today, July is 10 long, LONG weeks away, and we probably won't know nearly enough til then. But if TPTB break my heart over Sam and Jack, I just don't know if I can continue to watch.

Daniel's_twin
April 17th, 2005, 07:26 PM
pittsburghgirl so far it sounds like nothing but bad news out of the con.What a surprise for Shippers.It also sounds like business as usual for Sam and her Male Fan Club.It's like the Sam character is stuck in a vicious cycle that gets worse all the time.The Sam character has gone from one of the best to one of the worst overnight.

Boy, what a bleak perspective. I'm already sick, I don't need to be depressed, too.

Even speculation makes some impact. :cool:

Skydiver
April 17th, 2005, 07:33 PM
I don't mean to interrupt the thread thought, but has anyone tried to use the Fan Fic search in the last couple of days? Suddenly, when I ask it to look for stories posted in the last 30 days, it comes up with only two results!!!!

I know I've posted something in the last 30 days, and so have Shimmering Star and Uber. But they're not showing up in the quick search. Can anyone tell me what's up?

there must be something wrong with it. i've told darren, but he's in vancouver so i don't know what he can do until he gets back home

i don't know what to tell you other than, well if you belong to the yahoo group, you get send a notification via e-mail whenver a new fic is uploaded so you'd have those links to follow to the new stuff

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/gateworldfanfic/

it's easy to join and all the mail you ever get (other than the odd piece of spam that folks keep sending to the list) is fic notifications

i believe you can also search the yahoo groups m essages, so it could be a temporary alternative to the search that's on gateworld

Uber
April 17th, 2005, 07:42 PM
there must be something wrong with it. i've told darren, but he's in vancouver so i don't know what he can do until he gets back home

i don't know what to tell you other than, well if you belong to the yahoo group, you get send a notification via e-mail whenver a new fic is uploaded so you'd have those links to follow to the new stuff

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/gateworldfanfic/

it's easy to join and all the mail you ever get (other than the odd piece of spam that folks keep sending to the list) is fic notifications

i believe you can also search the yahoo groups m essages, so it could be a temporary alternative to the search that's on gateworld
Should I wait until I finish the third or should I post the two I have so far to the GW fan fic section and this Yahoo Group Skydiver's suggesting?

What do you all think?

Again, I openly acknowledge I am a coward.)

Skydiver
April 17th, 2005, 07:47 PM
actually, you don't really post the fic to the group. every time someone uploads thier fic, you get sent a mail like this

GateWorld FanFic presents ...

Shine My Shoes
by Wildecate
E-mail: [email protected]

Rating: All Ages
Season: SG-1 Season Eight
Related SG-1 Episode(s): 818 Threads
Featured Character(s): Samantha Carter
Summary: It's funny how the most mundane things can bring tears to her eyes

Author Notes: Vague spoilers for Threads.

Want to read this story? Find it here at GateWorld FanFic:
http://www.gateworld.net/fanfic/archive/34/shinemy.html

Search the archive at GateWorld FanFic:
http://www.gateworld.net/fanfic



and then you have a link to follow back to the fic.
also, since you can search the groups on the yahoo server, you can search the messages and, hopefully, find what you're looking for

as to posting your fic, i say post it Uber.

ses110
April 17th, 2005, 08:03 PM
You make some good points but we have been there done that with Sam and the Male guest characters and just hearing these same guest Characters are returning is upsetting.I doubt these Male guest Characters who had the Hots for Sam the first time around are all of a sudden going to lose Interest.TPTB also have to understand after waiting 8 Years we still did not get a real Kiss or an I Love You and wite Jack pretty much gone most Fans are in no mood to be jerked around anymore.I am one Fan who will be doing something else at 8:00 PM on Friday and I'am sure there will be many others finding something else to do.

Hex.FTB.enabled
April 17th, 2005, 08:07 PM
Hmm. A lot of interesting points floating around about S9, so I'll add mine to the mix. I'm just gonna put the whole thing in invisio-text to be safe and keep the dingers happy: Bringing back Barrett and Orlin struck me more as odd than anything else. They've been so far removed from what's been going on this season, I'm curious as to why their characters are necessary.
But I don't believe its necessarily going to be detrimental to the ship. Maybe it's just hope talking, but the above point was made that we don't really know anything yet. We still have no idea what Sam was doing during her absence. That could have enormous effect on how we view these characters and what their storyline will be.
But the thing that keeps bugging the most is this: Sam just broke off an engagement. Whatever your opinion of said enagement (and believe me, I was yelling all sorts of things with the rest of you), that's a huge thing that requires some recovery. As much as I want a REAL resolution to the Sam/Jack ship, to have Sam immediatly run to Jack's arms in the beginning of S9 would feel problematic for me. So the main point I have is that perhaps having some old flames re-enter her life will put some things in perspective for Sam and give her the courage to not only approach Jack about THE conversation, but pursue it through all of his distractions and outside interupptions. Then maybe we'll get the resolution we've been hoping for, even it's a phone conversation to accomodate RDA's schedule.
Whew. So there you have it. :)

LOL4JACK
April 17th, 2005, 08:07 PM
Should I wait until I finish the third or should I post the two I have so far to the GW fan fic section and this Yahoo Group Skydiver's suggesting?

What do you all think?

Again, I openly acknowledge I am a coward.)
Uber, your story is great Part 1 and 2 are superb and leave us biting our nails while we wait for part 3 :p

Not to put pressure on you, I know that you are very busy at work and all, :o those 2 jobs you are working on :o and evertyhing else, but Howsitgoing :D :D :D ?

I'm sure if you post your fic in gateworld, you will have thousands of people claiming for part 3!!!!! :D :D :D :D

sg-1fanintn
April 17th, 2005, 08:11 PM
Uber.....you hear your fans' calls! Your story is one of the best I've read, and is definitely good enough to post at Gateworld! We're just anxiously awaiting part 3!

ses110
April 17th, 2005, 08:11 PM
Sorry I wish I could be more positive.TPTB talk about a new direction and then they kill off many of the popular characters and bring back the horrible Sam Fan Club members.TPTB as usual are talking out of both sides of there face.I hope I'am wrong but it's starting to look like Threads was done to only get rid of Pete so TPTB could bring back Sam and the guest character of the week.TPTB only showed Sam and Jack Fishing with Daniel and Teal'c and no other indication they were together.It also looks like Sam absence from the start of Season 9 also did not include spending time with Jack.Sorry if I depressed anyone.

sg-1fanintn
April 17th, 2005, 08:18 PM
Uber.....thanks for all your help with my little banner! Now I can start the work week with one less Sam & Jack worry!

Uber
April 17th, 2005, 08:24 PM
Uber.....thanks for all your help with my little banner! Now I can start the work week with one less Sam & Jack worry!
:D No prob...if you want to center it, just add the [ center ] [ / center ] tags on each side of the img tags (lose the spaces of course...)

:D

Uber
April 17th, 2005, 08:31 PM
Uber, your story is great Part 1 and 2 are superb and leave us biting our nails while we wait for part 3 :p

Not to put pressure on you, I know that you are very busy at work and all, :o those 2 jobs you are working on :o and evertyhing else, but Howsitgoing :D :D :D ?

I'm sure if you post your fic in gateworld, you will have thousands of people claiming for part 3!!!!! :D :D :D :D
Thousands, hmm? Think they'd all post a review as glowing as yours??? :D

majorsal
April 17th, 2005, 08:58 PM
Spoiler season 9

(edit)

....I don't think Baa'l is there for any romance with Sam but as I say ..he may get her so that Jack comes to the rescue ..I would love to see that ...a real dramatic Sam and Jack episode with the bad Baa'l as long as he does not torture her too much ..or kill her many times like he did with Jack :(


Caty:)

i'd love to see an ep like that! as a shipper 'and' sam fan! :D


sally :D

majorsal
April 17th, 2005, 09:45 PM
I posted this already on the "Sam's a Great Character" thread. I apologize to anyone who's reading it twice, but the two threads are generating so much similar worry about what's going on with TPTB right now that I felt it wouldn't be too bad to post it again. Even a nuance or a "You won't be disappointed" from Vancouver would make me feel better. I doubt we'll get that.

It occurs to me that we may be getting ourselves all upset over nothing. What do we really know? Not much: the names of a few possible guest stars in S9, who's joining the team, that Amanda probably won't be back until 907 (Olivia arrived late) and that RDA won't be a series regular. We also think that Arthurian legend will play a role in this season's developments.

That's all we really REALLY know. I've been a journalist for more than 20 years, and I know better than to deal in speculation, because it's usually WRONG. Beyond that, we're driving ourselves crazy with speculation on what might be, and I have a feeling TPTB are sitting around laughing at us because of it! It's their job to keep us guessing and upset, so we don't go out to dinner on season premiere night.

I'm just going to have to step back, take a deep breath and not worry about all these negative scenarios. As I said earlier today, July is 10 long, LONG weeks away, and we probably won't know nearly enough til then. But if TPTB break my heart over Sam and Jack, I just don't know if I can continue to watch.

i'm feeling the same way. i don't have enough info to get upset. i feel they've went too far with sam/jack to step out of it and have sam suddenly going for a guy again. the end of season 8 showed sam and jack going in a relationship direction, so having a couple of past admirers doesn't mean that sam's going to take up with them. i'm not panicking (yet). ;)


sally :D

majorsal
April 17th, 2005, 10:02 PM
You make some good points but we have been there done that with Sam and the Male guest characters and just hearing these same guest Characters are returning is upsetting.I doubt these Male guest Characters who had the Hots for Sam the first time around are all of a sudden going to lose Interest.TPTB also have to understand after waiting 8 Years we still did not get a real Kiss or an I Love You and wite Jack pretty much gone most Fans are in no mood to be jerked around anymore.I am one Fan who will be doing something else at 8:00 PM on Friday and I'am sure there will be many others finding something else to do.

i think you've said it perfectly. we can't take being jerked around anymore.


sally :)

majorsal
April 17th, 2005, 10:13 PM
Hmm. A lot of interesting points floating around about S9, so I'll add mine to the mix. I'm just gonna put the whole thing in invisio-text to be safe and keep the dingers happy: Bringing back Barrett and Orlin struck me more as odd than anything else. They've been so far removed from what's been going on this season, I'm curious as to why their characters are necessary.
But I don't believe its necessarily going to be detrimental to the ship. Maybe it's just hope talking, but the above point was made that we don't really know anything yet. We still have no idea what Sam was doing during her absence. That could have enormous effect on how we view these characters and what their storyline will be.
But the thing that keeps bugging the most is this: Sam just broke off an engagement. Whatever your opinion of said enagement (and believe me, I was yelling all sorts of things with the rest of you), that's a huge thing that requires some recovery. As much as I want a REAL resolution to the Sam/Jack ship, to have Sam immediatly run to Jack's arms in the beginning of S9 would feel problematic for me. So the main point I have is that perhaps having some old flames re-enter her life will put some things in perspective for Sam and give her the courage to not only approach Jack about THE conversation, but pursue it through all of his distractions and outside interupptions. Then maybe we'll get the resolution we've been hoping for, even it's a phone conversation to accomodate RDA's schedule.
Whew. So there you have it. :)

i have a feeling sam and jack have had 'the' conversation. with everything that went down in threads, and then sam agreeing to go fishing with jack, 'something' would have happened. so i'm thinking sam and jack are either in the beginnings of a relay (and a long-distance at that), or they've discussed it and are going to wait until they can actually be in the same state. (if i were sam, i'd not wait one minute longer than the 8 bloody years i've waited).


sally :D

Catysg1
April 18th, 2005, 01:19 AM
i have a feeling sam and jack have had 'the' conversation. with everything that went down in threads, and then sam agreeing to go fishing with jack, 'something' would have happened. so i'm thinking sam and jack are either in the beginnings of a relay (and a long-distance at that), or they've discussed it and are going to wait until they can actually be in the same state. (if i were sam, i'd not wait one minute longer than the 8 bloody years i've waited).


sally :D


Wow .....Me too ..I don't know how they could wait any longer with the amount of UST they had during 8 years ...they must be desesperate to get it on now with each other . I mean Love is a very strong feeling ..and when all obstacles are removed ..it must be very hard to not have physical contact with the person you love ...!!!I also reckon that they are now seeing each other intimately and Barrett and Orlin are just there for a story line and some comments ...or some flirt with her in some ways where Sam will acknolwedge that she is with Jack O' Neill ....We may even hear some nice things like Barrett asking her " really , is it really serious between you too ?!" and we all know what Sam will say ...She may even say "I love him and have done so for a long time " blablabla ..She may even mention the rules and tell Barrett what Jack is up to those days ...and what their plans are for the future ..once they can live together .
As for Baa'l he has always been an evil Character and is a Go'auld so I thinkhe is there for a threat to SGC probably goona try to harm Sam so that Jack comes running to the rescue ...We may see Jack in one more episode and that would be great ..for the shippers and it's nice to see Baa'l in some episodes but I really don't think Baa'l is gonna say to Sam what Fith said to her ..he is probably gonna torture her like he did with Jack to get some infos ...but then he knows the only way to get to Jack is to get Sam first ..so here we go :)

This is my 2 cents and I'm sticking to it ....I also don't think we'll see the beginning of Sam and Jack relationship ...They have already started it and by the time we see them ..the UST will be gone ...and they'll be in full RST mode so that we get on with the show ...but what we may see is desesperation of one of them when their love one is taken by an evil force


Caty:)

Catysg1
April 18th, 2005, 01:33 AM
I posted this already on the "Sam's a Great Character" thread. I apologize to anyone who's reading it twice, but the two threads are generating so much similar worry about what's going on with TPTB right now that I felt it wouldn't be too bad to post it again. Even a nuance or a "You won't be disappointed" from Vancouver would make me feel better. I doubt we'll get that.

It occurs to me that we may be getting ourselves all upset over nothing. What do we really know? Not much: the names of a few possible guest stars in S9, who's joining the team, that Amanda probably won't be back until 907 (Olivia arrived late) and that RDA won't be a series regular. We also think that Arthurian legend will play a role in this season's developments.

That's all we really REALLY know. I've been a journalist for more than 20 years, and I know better than to deal in speculation, because it's usually WRONG. Beyond that, we're driving ourselves crazy with speculation on what might be, and I have a feeling TPTB are sitting around laughing at us because of it! It's their job to keep us guessing and upset, so we don't go out to dinner on season premiere night.

I'm just going to have to step back, take a deep breath and not worry about all these negative scenarios. As I said earlier today, July is 10 long, LONG weeks away, and we probably won't know nearly enough til then. But if TPTB break my heart over Sam and Jack, I just don't know if I can continue to watch.



I think shippers fans will go out for dinner on season 9 premiere if TPTB don't give them tidbits about Sam and Jack ...The couple is an important part of the storyline ...that we want it or no ..and will always be ..so they can't mess around with it any longer .... Sam has broken off her engagement to Pete so that she could be with Jack ...She now knows what she really wants and it looks like Jack is also prepared to move on , resigned from his military position so that he can have a life with Sam ..so I don't think we'll have our hearts broken with the other Guys who fancies Sam ...As I said ..they'll be here for a really good Story I hope and just mention ship in passing to Sam ..I think we'll see some flirting from Barrett but only like he did in "resurrection" and as orlin ..he is alien ..nice not so not for Sam ...too reserved for her ...not a good laugh if you see what I mean !! and she was not interested in him the first time round ...she liked the guy ..because he was a nice alien and had proper intentions ....Sam is a really sweet woman and if Orlin comes back , she will help him if he is in trouble ...but just as a friend ..and she'll tell him that . She may even tell Jack about Barrett and Orlin coming on to her and take it as a compliment .Jack won't care becasue he knows where he stands with Sam ...and he got her now anyway , she got him and that's all maters :)

Caty:)

Catysg1
April 18th, 2005, 01:46 AM
Sorry I wish I could be more positive.TPTB talk about a new direction and then they kill off many of the popular characters and bring back the horrible Sam Fan Club members.TPTB as usual are talking out of both sides of there face.I hope I'am wrong but it's starting to look like Threads was done to only get rid of Pete so TPTB could bring back Sam and the guest character of the week.TPTB only showed Sam and Jack Fishing with Daniel and Teal'c and no other indication they were together.It also looks like Sam absence from the start of Season 9 also did not include spending time with Jack.Sorry if I depressed anyone.


((((Ses)))) first of all You can't mess around with love on screen ..If Sam and Jack were in their 20 's it may be acceptable ...but they are mature adults who had plenty of flings in their non normal life ..so by now I think they know what they want ...and TPTB can't undo what they did to them as mature adults in Threads ...Threads showed that Sam gave something up to be with Jack ( her engagement) and Jack gave something up to be with Sam ( Apparently he was gonna become non military) so Tptb knows where they are going for that ...and also ..I don't think they 'll have Sam have a romantic relationship with another guy now ... First it's wrong because of what we had in Threads like I just said and which Sam and Jack shippers would buy the DVD's if they have Sam 's personnal life and feelings mixed up again ?!....Sam knows what she wants ...It seems like the military obstacles are removed ..they are both free to be together . ;)

The only obstacle we gonna get is the long distance relationship ....and Barrett may even take on that and may ask Sam how she copes with it .
Then obviuosly Sam will say " Well .... we've been apart for 8 years because of the regs ..Now we are apart because of the distance but we try to see each other as much as possible , in fact he is coming down next weekend ..and we plan to spend some time at the cabin " :) hehehehe ..Hahahahaha :) I will be happy with that ...then would be nice to have a glimpse of them together and not have to guess everything ..but I really think that the Sam and Jack ship will be established in season 9 .

I think we gonna get a lot of from calls from Sam to Jack ..like she is inn her lab and phones him for a bit of company and telling him she can't wait for next week end when they go fishing again :)
Then he'll say I love you ( Shame we won't hear it :( ) but she'll reply "Me too"

If they want to do a UST ship , they'll do it with Daniel, Teal'c or Cameron . :rolleyes:


Caty:)

sueKay
April 18th, 2005, 01:54 AM
Hey there!

I thought coming here would cheer me up, but as I can see the PTB are kicking us in the teeth again.

I had some more bad news in RL

I'm definitely not going to University...my last course rejected me...I don't wanna go to Uni...what am I going to do? :(

Catysg1
April 18th, 2005, 02:01 AM
I have already decided I am not buying season 8. I am not spending $40 for Reckoning 2 and a "always".



LOL but you are right Rogue ..I won't either .... :eek: I 'll feel so sad if I do because there are other shows I would love the DVD's from like Cold case , Alias and Dark Angel :)


Caty:)

Catysg1
April 18th, 2005, 02:08 AM
Hey there!

I thought coming here would cheer me up, but as I can see the PTB are kicking us in the teeth again.

I had some more bad news in RL

I'm definitely not going to University...my last course rejected me...I don't wanna go to Uni...what am I going to do? :(


((((suekay)) I made some positive posts about Sam and Jack in season 9 ..Go and read Don't worry ..Sam will never go and find another man ...she loves Jack and this is why she could not go through with marrying Pete ..and we know that Jack loves Sam too ...kerry found out and he didn't denied anything ...and straight after that ...he came to Sam and told her he'll always be there for her ...and he let Sam putting her cheeks on his hand ...."Love is all" like Marc Anthony says in his song ...Sam and Jack are in total love with each other ..and nothing will come in between them now except the long distance relationship .

Barrett and Orlin will only be there so that Sam expresses her feelings for Jack. we'll see the ship through what Sam has to say about Jack to the men coming on to her if they do ..and they'll get the message pretty quiclky :)


Caty:)

tauripeg
April 18th, 2005, 03:25 AM
Hi Shippy Family !!! I've been reading you for a long time now !! and I enjoyed it a lot!! I've finally decided to join you !! I have the feeling to know you all now ! so I'm gonna present myself so you can know me better :-)

My name is Marion, I'm french,I am studying in Minnesota (yay for jack's cabin !!!) and I'm a SHIPPER of course !!! :p

Sam and Jack FOREVER ;-) even for season 9 !!

I agree it doesn't look so good for the next season but i'll give it a chance and anyway in my heart and yours (and the fanfic ;-) ) they'll ALWAYS be together !!

so hope I'll have fun with my new family ;) and that we'll hear soon from the Con !!!
sorry if I don't use the forum as I'm supposed to...don't dinf me yet, I'm a poor new little french new shippy...hehe)
Welcome Lonely_star
Welcome to our little family. Post Lots and have fun. I am going to try and post more myself. Everyone have a Shippy day. Now I have to go see what my puppy is getting into.

Peg :)

Rogue
April 18th, 2005, 05:24 AM
((((suekay)) I made some positive posts about Sam and Jack in season 9 ..Go and read Don't worry ..Sam will never go and find another man ...she loves Jack and this is why she could not go through with marrying Pete ..and we know that Jack loves Sam too ...kerry found out and he didn't denied anything ...and straight after that ...he came to Sam and told her he'll always be there for her ...and he let Sam putting her cheeks on his hand ...."Love is all" like Marc Anthony says in his song ...Sam and Jack are in total love with each other ..and nothing will come in between them now except the long distance relationship .

Barrett and Orlin will only be there so that Sam expresses her feelings for Jack. we'll see the ship through what Sam has to say about Jack to the men coming on to her if they do ..and they'll get the message pretty quiclky :)


Caty:)

I don't want to be negative, but I just don't trust those guys. We have been disappointed so many times.

Skydiver
April 18th, 2005, 05:53 AM
I think there are a couple of things to consider

first of all, we're getting rda in 1, 2, 3 maybe 4 eps. That's all. so, unfortunately, seeing sam and jack together won't be all that common since at least one or two of those will happen while amanda's still on baby time

it bites but it's fact

HOWEVER, just because they're bringing back 'old flames' of sam's doesn't mean a thing beyond they've killed off a lot of thier other guest stars and don't have many left

sarah gardner would be a fantastic opportunity for daniel, both emotionally and in a ship way, but the actress lives overseas now and is too expensive to bring over

the tok'ra are a dying race, and story arc. i think what happened in threads is enough of an example of that

we got a lot of jaffa stuff coming, because that and ishta is the only story that teal'c has.
we have a lot of ancient stuff coming because that's all the story daniel has left. with shau'ri gettingkilled off 5 years ago, that whole mythic quest of this story died with her, then sarah is gone and, frankly, they've done the whole 'ascend to get out of death free' thing to death and beyond. It's become a cliche by now. kinda like the enterprise beating the borg too many times.

they were supposed to shut down the nid/trust in endgame, but have to bring it back, because, despite all the 'we have endless opportunities' lines that we hear from TPTB, they seem to prefer the easy to write/easy to produce earth bound eps (making those alien planets, that takes time, effort and research)

Also, it seems that s9 is going to be a drastic departure from the show we've been watching, imho, drastic enough that they shoulda just taken a yaer off or changed its name.

they're gonna have to set up all those drastic changes, so we're gonna get a bunch of nice slow things like we had in the first season of atlantis. before they can play in a new universe, they have to make it first. and that's what a good portion of s9 will be

I seriously doubt they're bringing back the 'exes' as an answer to ship, they're doing it because they don't have many existing storylines left and it's easier to bring out and continue something that's already existed than it is to come up with something fresh and new

girlgater
April 18th, 2005, 06:08 AM
I've lurked most of this weekend and not really gotten into the mix as I sorted out my feelings on what S9 will bring. I really think that we as shippers have to be content with what we saw in Threads. Jack is not with Kerry; Sam is not marrying Pete. Kerry saw the relationship with Jack for what it was--a passing thing that he settled for since he couldn't be with Sam. Sam couldn't marry Pete because she was in love (and yes, I think she will admit it "on screen") with Jack. Jacob knew that Sam had feelings for Jack and forced her, as only a parent could do, to admit her feelings. Sam & Jack (along with Teal'c and Daniel) went fishing. There's a big difference between Sam and Jack going fishing and Jack and Teal'c going fishing ;) . I have to believe that somewhere along the line Sam and Jack talked about their feelings--otherwise she would have never agreed to go fishing. The fact that Daniel & Teal'c went along only served to buffer out the potential issues with it being against regulations. Jack will be in her life--probably as a long-distance relationship, but he'll be there. :D They have too much going for them. The writers of SG also know that the shippers constitute a huge fan base and even if they aren't willing to give us what we want totally, they're not going to ruin the relationship and risk alienating us. They need us even more with RDA appearing only on a limited basis.

Now...for S9 and the guys who have had feelings for Sam in the past being resurrected. Sam has already been there and done that so to speak with all of them. Agent Barrett had his chance; Orin had his chance as well--she didn't fall for either of them. Sam isn't the type of person to just fly off and fall for someone else--she was only with Pete because she couldn't have Jack. For whatever reason, she wasn't interested in the others in the past and that should hold true now.

I personally think that Ba'al is hot as a Goa'uld goes, but he's not for Sam. Come on...why would she want to go that route when she could find men of her own species?

I'm keeping the faith and hope that everyone else will too. I'm also not going to pay attention to the negative things that people are saying in other threads. It serves no purpose but to cause shippers worry. There will be lots of speculation between now and July. We'll just have to wait and see what happens...until then I'm keeping my shippy thoughts light and happy.

pittsburghgirl
April 18th, 2005, 06:15 AM
Skydiver you have given a nice thoughtful post and your thoughts and suggestions make sense. But what really hacks me off right now is what they are doing to Sam-and maybe this is the wrong thread to mention that fact-but her characater has taken quite a beating in other threads=that for courtesy I will not mention-and the ship between sam and jack has also taken quite a beating the last two seasons-the concern I have is their turning Sam into the scifi bimbo and frankly if it continues in season 9-especially in their efforts to ratchet up the angst because Sam and Jack are going to be apart-my advice to Amanda would be honey-tell them to take this job and shove it.

pittsburghgirl
April 18th, 2005, 06:17 AM
I don't want to be negative, but I just don't trust those guys. We have been disappointed so many times.
i'm with you Rogue-I don't trust them. Haven't for the last two years. They have taken my favorite character and turned into the ...well I think I am just gonna leave that description unsaid.

ChevronSeven
April 18th, 2005, 06:31 AM
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ChevronSeven
April 18th, 2005, 06:38 AM
I think there are a couple of things to consider

first of all, we're getting rda in 1, 2, 3 maybe 4 eps. That's all. so, unfortunately, seeing sam and jack together won't be all that common since at least one or two of those will happen while amanda's still on baby time

it bites but it's fact

HOWEVER, just because they're bringing back 'old flames' of sam's doesn't mean a thing beyond they've killed off a lot of thier other guest stars and don't have many left

sarah gardner would be a fantastic opportunity for daniel, both emotionally and in a ship way, but the actress lives overseas now and is too expensive to bring over

the tok'ra are a dying race, and story arc. i think what happened in threads is enough of an example of that

we got a lot of jaffa stuff coming, because that and ishta is the only story that teal'c has.
we have a lot of ancient stuff coming because that's all the story daniel has left. with shau'ri gettingkilled off 5 years ago, that whole mythic quest of this story died with her, then sarah is gone and, frankly, they've done the whole 'ascend to get out of death free' thing to death and beyond. It's become a cliche by now. kinda like the enterprise beating the borg too many times.

they were supposed to shut down the nid/trust in endgame, but have to bring it back, because, despite all the 'we have endless opportunities' lines that we hear from TPTB, they seem to prefer the easy to write/easy to produce earth bound eps (making those alien planets, that takes time, effort and research)

Also, it seems that s9 is going to be a drastic departure from the show we've been watching, imho, drastic enough that they shoulda just taken a yaer off or changed its name.

they're gonna have to set up all those drastic changes, so we're gonna get a bunch of nice slow things like we had in the first season of atlantis. before they can play in a new universe, they have to make it first. and that's what a good portion of s9 will be

I seriously doubt they're bringing back the 'exes' as an answer to ship, they're doing it because they don't have many existing storylines left and it's easier to bring out and continue something that's already existed than it is to come up with something fresh and new

Very well said. And I'm in total agreement. They've wrapped up a lot of story lines, especially in the last few seasons because they didn't know whether or not they were going to be coming back to series television or if they were going to do a movie. Now that the movie seems to be way out of the picture, they can't go back. They need to move forward. I'm going to miss RDA extremely. But I don't think that they're going to bring back men from Sam's past simply to have someone to put with her. I think that they're going to wrap up the Trust storyline, possibly with Kinsey and Ba'al being "taken care of" at the same time. It would be wonderful for them to acknowledge if Sam and Jack are together, be it a phone call or a simple picture of the two of them on the dock fishing. I'm going to give Season 9 a chance. We'll see how it goes by the end of the first half of the season.

Oma-1
April 18th, 2005, 07:11 AM
I'm gonna add my tuppence worth to the S9 conflab - I'm not completely caught up yet and I gotta run and get the kids in a few, so I apologise if I knick anybody else's comments :p

I think tptb are bringing Barrett back cos he's the NID link. Not for any romantic reason, although, like I mentioned a coupla days ago, he seems to like being rejected! Maybe he's brought in the for the search with Ba'al, or any other number of reasons, but mainly cos he's a face we know, and they like repeating guest stars cos helps with backstory and not having to spend precious minutes introducing a new character.

Same reasons for Orlin - tptb have hinted they might not be able to get SPF (although I hope so cos I thought he was cute :p ) and that will disrupt the backstory of the ep.

Thinking in terms of ship, this is good! It's showing that Sam won't get involved with them cos SHE'S ALREADY IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH JACK! They have to come up with some way of showing this without RDA. I can't think of a more effective one! Yes, phone calls with Jack are better, but probably don't fit into RDA's schedule. Comments to Daniel and Teal'c are good, but giving some other guy - who we know she likes and gets on with - the big old heave ho is good. But there is a proviso - and that is that the storyline bringing them back is good and warrants it, and it's not just throwaway stuff that anyone could do.

So all in all, as far as I'm concerned, ROLL ON S9 :D

lonely_star
April 18th, 2005, 07:19 AM
Welcome Lonely_star
Welcome to our little family. Post Lots and have fun. I am going to try and post more myself. Everyone have a Shippy day. Now I have to go see what my puppy is getting into.

Peg :)

thanks so much ! I already have fun !! :p if only I could hear good news for season 9, it would be better but i'll just be patient and wait ! ;)

caty, skydiver and girlgater, I loved your posts, they gave me confidence and are very interesting and well thought ;) I just hope you'll be right cause as Rogue says...i don't really trust them...not anymore...

as you all I just hope they'll do a better job with Sam's character and won't screw up everyhting they've already done with Jack and Sam's feelings for each other...it would be stupid not to respect what they built in the past 8 seasons...but it wouldn't be the first time for a show...I think of JAG !! god THIS really sucks !! I know there's a huge difference between both shows (fortunately for stargate sg1!) but it really shows that everything can happen...I just hope it won't in our case !! (fingers crossed)...but i'll go and read your posts again girls, I need positive thoughts!!! thanks for that :D

and by the way let's not desperate about season9RDA coming for some other appearances, we really know nothing about his contract...all we know it's that MS said he was filming with him and then they were a kind of obliged to say it was for the first and third episode...Maybe the contract says more but we don't know...yet, let's just wait and see...

no news from the Con ??

and by the way I say let's stop thinking too much !! :o we can speculate for hours about what's going to happen and it hurts so much sometimes...it's confusing isn't it?? :rolleyes: we should have fun and enjoy what we already have for a while !! what about posting some of those pics and we'll make the dialogue ? I know some of you are very good at that ! ;)

what do you think ? let's make a break in all those speculations and wait for more spoilers :o ...just a thought ;) :D

Rogue
April 18th, 2005, 08:13 AM
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Skydiver
April 18th, 2005, 08:19 AM
i do agree with you guys in a way. I don't blindly trust TPTB because they seem to be taking the show in a direction that is not only different from the one i'm used to, but potentialy a direction that won't appeal to me.

it is what it is. And i know that nothing i can do will change it. If i'd had my way, jonas would still be on the show and daniel would be a glowing jelly fish that visits on holidays. but again, i have nothing to do with it :)

If, and it's a big honkin IF they plan to ship sam every week, then i will lose all respect for them. but i'm not going to know this for a few months

I can't say that i trust tptb to make a show that i enjoy anymore, because they are changing the focus of the show. It is going to be fargate in a way because BB will have a lot of focus (that's what they'll need to do if they want to build him up to be the lead of the show)

however, i do seriously doubt that they'll make sam the ship focus. First of all, that woudl require that amanda spend more time on the set and and, it's my understanding, that she's wanting to scale back. adn second of all, if anyone is gonna be bimbo of the week, i'm willing to bet it'll be ben. he's going to be their focus. he's the new 'stud' and time will tell if he suffers from Kirk Syndrom

Catysg1
April 18th, 2005, 08:32 AM
thanks so much ! I already have fun !! :p if only I could hear good news for season 9, it would be better but i'll just be patient and wait ! ;)

caty, skydiver and girlgater, I loved your posts, they gave me confidence and are very interesting and well thought ;) I just hope you'll be right cause as Rogue says...i don't really trust them...not anymore...

as you all I just hope they'll do a better job with Sam's character and won't screw up everyhting they've already done with Jack and Sam's feelings for each other...it would be stupid not to respect what they built in the past 8 seasons...but it wouldn't be the first time for a show...I think of JAG !! god THIS really sucks !! I know there's a huge difference between both shows (fortunately for stargate sg1!) but it really shows that everything can happen...I just hope it won't in our case !! (fingers crossed)...but i'll go and read your posts again girls, I need positive thoughts!!! thanks for that :D

and by the way let's not desperate about season9RDA coming for some other appearances, we really know nothing about his contract...all we know it's that MS said he was filming with him and then they were a kind of obliged to say it was for the first and third episode...Maybe the contract says more but we don't know...yet, let's just wait and see...

no news from the Con ??

and by the way I say let's stop thinking too much !! :o we can speculate for hours about what's going to happen and it hurts so much sometimes...it's confusing isn't it?? :rolleyes: we should have fun and enjoy what we already have for a while !! what about posting some of those pics and we'll make the dialogue ? I know some of you are very good at that ! ;)

what do you think ? let's make a break in all those speculations and wait for more spoilers :o ...just a thought ;) :D


I don't trust them either but if they want contuinity and keep all credibility ..the Sam and Jack ship can't be deleted now ... ..Sam and Jack will be in a relationship ...if you think you are just a casual viewer who doesn't come to fandom to read and analyse the show ...this casual viewer saw that Sam dumped Pete to be with Jack and Jack definately hesitate to break up with Kerry so that he can have a future with Sam ...this is what everybody saw in Threads ..Sam and Jack are a couple ..I even bet they would have had an intimate relationship by the time Sam comes back ..She may have been gone for professional reasons but don't tell me she left just after the fishing invite ....it's even possible that Jack retired from Military soon after the Cabin scene ..and they both took some time off to enjoy the beginning of their relationship . :)

I believe their relationship will be established by the time they come back on screen ..Jack will be back first probably saying that Sam is gone wherever for business .....not sure he will mention anything else ..TPTB may want to keep that when Sam returns ..She 'll mention the HMS to Daniel and teal'c (hehehehehe)and their future plans ( probably to Orlin and Barrett if they ask her out ).


caty:)

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April 18th, 2005, 08:39 AM
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Catysg1
April 18th, 2005, 08:44 AM
i do agree with you guys in a way. I don't blindly trust TPTB because they seem to be taking the show in a direction that is not only different from the one i'm used to, but potentialy a direction that won't appeal to me.

it is what it is. And i know that nothing i can do will change it. If i'd had my way, jonas would still be on the show and daniel would be a glowing jelly fish that visits on holidays. but again, i have nothing to do with it :)

If, and it's a big honkin IF they plan to ship sam every week, then i will lose all respect for them. but i'm not going to know this for a few months

I can't say that i trust tptb to make a show that i enjoy anymore, because they are changing the focus of the show. It is going to be fargate in a way because BB will have a lot of focus (that's what they'll need to do if they want to build him up to be the lead of the show)

however, i do seriously doubt that they'll make sam the ship focus. First of all, that woudl require that amanda spend more time on the set and and, it's my understanding, that she's wanting to scale back. adn second of all, if anyone is gonna be bimbo of the week, i'm willing to bet it'll be ben. he's going to be their focus. he's the new 'stud' and time will tell if he suffers from Kirk Syndrom


((((Skydiver))) I really like your post but you are scaring me a little ...Me too I'm not looking forward to season 9 too much ..because of BB & CB joining the show ..I both liked them in Farscape but somehow ..i think it is wrong to carry on the show without the original team and not change the name of the show ...I also think that we won't see much Sam and Jack ship but we 'll hear it through others like Orlin, Barrett and even Baa'l asking her questions about the love in her life ..and how important it is ..bla bla bla .. tptb May also give Sam the opportunity to use the phone a lot to talk to Jack ..Either he rings or she rings ...that should be nice ..but we'll see . other than that ..BB,CB, will be the new focus of the show .it's a shame really that they didn't stop the show with RDA present full time ..it would have been the right thing to do

Caty:)

Catysg1
April 18th, 2005, 08:50 AM
<snip>



and by the way I say let's stop thinking too much !! :o we can speculate for hours about what's going to happen and it hurts so much sometimes...it's confusing isn't it?? :rolleyes: we should have fun and enjoy what we already have for a while !! what about posting some of those pics and we'll make the dialogue ? I know some of you are very good at that ! ;)

what do you think ? let's make a break in all those speculations and wait for more spoilers :o ...just a thought ;) :D


This is a good idea :) Unfortunately I didn't make a new collage but here are the lyrics of "Love is all" Marc Anthony which I thinK is a perfect song for Sam and Jack :)and the video is in my site :)

LOVE IS ALL

When you hold me like this
so many memories fill my eyes
the first time we kissed
the times we nearly said good-bye
but still here we are
tested and tried and still true
and stronger than we ever knew

Chorus:

Love is all
the laughter and the tears that fall
the mundane and the magical(miracle)
love is all
all is love
the careless word, the healing touch
the getting and the giving of
all is love
there’s a me you’ve always known
the me that’s a stranger still
the you that feels like home
and the you that never will
but still here we lie
tender and trusting and true
with everything that we’ve been through

Repeat Chorus

All the glory
all the pain
all the passion
that turns to ashes
only to rise again



SHIPPY , SHIPPY SHIPPY

Rogue
April 18th, 2005, 08:54 AM
((((Skydiver))) I really like your post but you are scaring me a little ...Me too I'm not looking forward to season 9 too much ..because of BB & CB joining the show ..I both liked them in Farscape but somehow ..i think it is wrong to carry on the show without the original team and not change the name of the show ...I also think that we won't see much Sam and Jack ship but we 'll hear it through others like Orlin, Barrett and even Baa'l asking her questions about the love in her life ..and how important it is ..bla bla bla .. tptb May also give Sam the opportunity to use the phone a lot to talk to Jack ..Either he rings or she rings ...that should be nice ..but we'll see . other than that ..BB,CB, will be the new focus of the show .it's a shame really that they didn't stop the show with RDA present full time ..it would have been the right thing to do

Caty:)

IMO, TPTB have dealt with J/S, it is over, done with. I don't think they want to reopen that can of worms by shipping Sam with someone else.

Catysg1
April 18th, 2005, 08:55 AM
And here is "My baby you" Marc Anthony which is also perfect for Sam and Jack ( video in my site as well) :)

My BABY YOU (Marc Anthony)

as i look into your eyes
i see all the reasons why
my life's worth a thousand skies
you're the simplest love i've known
and the purest one i'll own
know you'll never be alone
chorus: my baby you
are the reason i could fly
and 'cause of you
i don't have to wonder why
baby you
there's no more just getting by
you're the reason i feel so alive
though these words i say are true
they still fail to capture you
as mere words can only do
how do i explain that smile
and how it turns my world around
keeping my feet on the ground
repeat chorus
i will soothe you if you fall
i'll be right there if you call
you're my greatest love of all
repeat chorus
Samantha i feel so alive


Shippy, shippy , shippy


Caty:)

sueKay
April 18th, 2005, 09:09 AM
Heya...

I'm feeling a bit better now...I'm going to apply to college and do web design for a year...who knows...It might be a good thing a few years down the line.

As for s9 I'm with Skydiver. I don't think they're gonna have Sam with 'guest male of the week' but I'm going to be more cautious.

One thing I'm positive about is the fact that Sam and Jack are closer now than they have EVER been...Regardless of her feelings for him, Sam came to him TWICE for help with her love life. Sam was the only person who knew about Kerry...okay...she found out by accident, but even after she knew, Jack didn't tell Daniel or Teal'c.

When they were fishing (prior to Moebius) he admitted outright that there were no fish there, rather than a sarcastic comment...If Danny or T had asked him...the answer would have been funny...the fact that he was straight with Sam was a good sign rather than using his humour to defend himself.

In the second fishing loop, Sam goes fishing when she already KNOWS that there are no fish...while in the first loop she may have actually wanted to get some fishing in, the second loop she doesn't have that excuse...she obviously wants to be with Jack.

Okay...I'm babbling...sorry

Here's a song that I think sums up Sam and Jack ship...it's kinda angsty...and Caty...it'd make a great vid (hint hint)

The Corrs - Love Gives Love Takes

Just when I thought I was safe
You found me in my hiding place
I'd promised never again
I wouldn't give my heart, but then
Closer, closer I moved near you
The way I want you makes me fear you

Love breaks and love divides
Love laughs and love can make you cry
I can't believe the ways
That love can give
And love can take away

I find it hard to explain
It's crazy but it's happening
And I'm falling again
Much further than I've ever been
I'm falling deeper than the ocean
I am lost in this emotion

Love breaks and love divides
Love laughs and love can make you cry
I can't believe the ways
That love can give
And love can take away

Ahh, Oh yeah [x3]

Love can give
And love can take away, (take away)

Love breaks and love divides
Love laughs and love can make you cry, (love can make you cry)
I can't believe the ways
That love can give
And love can take away
Love breaks and love divides
Love laughs and love can make you cry
I can't believe the ways
That love can give
And love can take away

sueKay
April 18th, 2005, 09:14 AM
Additional observations:

Who helps Sam through the loss of Jacob?

Jack

Who helps Sam come to a decision on Pete?

Jacob

Who did Jacob want Sam to be with?

Jack



See...nothing to worry about

*wanders away babbling*

patsbabe
April 18th, 2005, 09:27 AM
You know what would be cool. if they redid the sceane from 801 wth Sam & Tealc. Where T. Asks how is O'Neill and instead of having to think and justify her relationship like she did when he asked about pete sam just goes of into a babble of how happy she is untill she gets embarsed about talking so freely to T. and he just does his eyebrow lift while trying not to laugh at her.and says indeed! God they could make that so funny if they wanted to!

BrenRen
April 18th, 2005, 09:40 AM
Hey Gang! Wow! Haven't been posting for a while... but I have been lurking quietly in the shadows since before the latest crash/tranfser/settling of the dust... Been too wiped out to do anything else! {RL side-note: I've got the lead role in the spring musical at my little local college, and we open this friday, making this officially HE!! WEEK--and boy is it ever!}

Thought I'd drop in and share a few thoughts/comments/predictions before I fly out the door for yet another rehearsal...


i do agree with you guys in a way. I don't blindly trust TPTB because they seem to be taking the show in a direction that is not only different from the one i'm used to, but potentialy a direction that won't appeal to me.

After what I've read so far, I'm nodding in close agreement with ya Skydiver. And, while I do understand that shows, especially the ones made of long character-involved-and-driven stories spanning so many years, that change is inevitible, and not necessarily bad, I haven't seen anything that convinces me one way or the other how I'll actually *like* the changes. Especially when they--TPTB and MS-- are unwilling to develop unother long-term ship. Short term, no problem. It is, after all, a show run, written, and directed by men {No offence to the men on board here! ;) }


it is what it is. And i know that nothing i can do will change it. If i'd had my way, jonas would still be on the show and daniel would be a glowing jelly fish that visits on holidays. but again, i have nothing to do with it :)

You know, that's a Stargate I could've lived quite happily with. Can I add, if it went my way, Sam & Jack would've slowly started "taking the next step" (now *that's* a cliche even I can't stand!) right after Grace--those *Others* never even existed. Just imagine it folks... I know, I've said it before, but really... really look at the second half of season seven and all of eight without the *Other* storylines ever happening. Keep everything else just exactly the same, but take out the :eek: and they'd have been right about season eight. It would have been the best year ever. Especially if we add in some of those missed opportunities and editing room floor kissage!


If, and it's a big honkin IF they plan to ship sam every week, then i will lose all respect for them. but i'm not going to know this for a few months

I can't say that i trust tptb to make a show that i enjoy anymore, because they are changing the focus of the show. It is going to be fargate in a way because BB will have a lot of focus (that's what they'll need to do if they want to build him up to be the lead of the show)

Are they really making him the "New Lead"?? I can't imagine that. Seriously cannot imagine that. Leader of the team, yes. Leading role on the show... I can't believe I'm going to say this, but in the wake of the departure of Jack, one of the only two characters left from the original film that started this whole little Stargate Universe in the first place, the logical "Male Lead" would fall to Daniel Jackson.


however, i do seriously doubt that they'll make sam the ship focus. First of all, that woudl require that amanda spend more time on the set and and, it's my understanding, that she's wanting to scale back. adn second of all, if anyone is gonna be bimbo of the week, i'm willing to bet it'll be ben. he's going to be their focus. he's the new 'stud' and time will tell if he suffers from Kirk Syndrom

ROFLMFAO!!! And my keyboard is covered in coffee... thank god for slipcovers! Bimbo of the Week Ben?!!! Still roflmao! Now that i could tolerate, for some strange reason... Oh, yeah, Ben's a hottie... Hmmm... has potential. (This is coming from someone who isn't really a Farscape fan, BTW. Only saw the miniseries, but I did enjoy that. Tried again to watch eps of the series, couldn't get into it. Strange.) What was I saying? Oh. Yes. Ben's a Hottie. I gotta stop, this is the wrong thread for that, isn't it!


As for Sam & Jack ship and their future over the next Stargate Year... I'll hazzard a prediction, since I was pretty close with my expectations for this last year. I was also right about RDA being unable to resist coming back to have fun with Stargate once in a while! Hee Heeee! So with all things in consideration--spoilers, babies, retirements, and knowing how these things tend to play out--I'm gonna take a wild leap through the Quantom Shipper Mirror and speed thru season nine in ShipFastFoward.

Beginning of season nine, rda makes a couple of brief appearances in the earliest eps. Easing him out, rather than jerking abruptly. The fact that Sam is very much a part of the promos for the "new SG1", I have no doubt we'll hear some very interesting reports of her activities... Wonder who she'll report too? Since her absence is likely increased, I wouldn't be surprised to get a sniglet an ep or two before she returns. As Jack is supposedly very much "alive and active" in the Stargate Universe (as alive as Cassie? Probably a bit of General Hammond too!) we'll get mention of Jack as well as Sam. Sam returns, at last, with a word or six about her *extended leave* (which we only wish were for a honeymoon...) before the Big Emergency takes over.


And for completely wild and random speculation, I'm more inclined than ever to believe we'll get a couple of guest appearances with RDA towards the end of the season, maybe even the finale. If it's the Series Finale and Goodbye SG1 FOREVER, I sure hope he's there for it! And we will at long last get that big passionate REAL Sam & Jack, in the REAL timeline WITHOUT alien influence, drugging, or any other depraved deviations making it the very moment we are really hoping and praying and otherwise impatiently waiting for. It's the only thing keeping me tuning in--to reruns, new eps come July, even Fandom-- Hope we'll still see further development, however slight, in the relationship between our favorite characters.



So here's to Season Nine, To Sam & Jack, and to all the Fantabulous Shippers:

SHIP SHIP HOORAY!
SHIP SHIP HOORAY!
SHIP SHIP HOORAY!



{Stepping off soapbox, passing the megaphone, and running back into the shadows of lurkdom with some end of season 8 fics to keep me sane until this production is over... )

lonely_star
April 18th, 2005, 09:44 AM
You know what would be cool. if they redid the sceane from 801 wth Sam & Tealc. Where T. Asks how is O'Neill and instead of having to think and justify her relationship like she did when he asked about pete sam just goes of into a babble of how happy she is untill she gets embarsed about talking so freely to T. and he just does his eyebrow lift while trying not to laugh at her.and says indeed! God they could make that so funny if they wanted to!

I love this scene !! :D :D it's a very funny one and that's true that this kind of scene talking about the right person this time ;) could be awesome !! :rolleyes:

thanks Rogue! nice little pic :p :D always good to see ;)

Sue Kay, I wish you good luck for your web design thing and really hope you feel better..I think this is a good song and woud make a very good vid !! caty you know what you have to do now!! :D
by the way Sue Kay thanks for the observations they are very helpful and remind us all the good things and details which can give us hope for season9 :) thanks ;)

Twisted Angel (Sam_rules)
April 18th, 2005, 10:07 AM
Hey guy's

I took time away from the business of my RL to come in and see how everything is going! It's been a good day and I am now officially a uni student! :)

I have read a few pages and I just want to say...

(((((SueKay)))))

Glad you are a bit better. I know how you feel! I have had rejections from uni's for what I originally wanted to do as well! So I had to find something else I wanted to do!

On the shippiness front. Beneath the surface is on now On sky 1. I love this episode! They still have that deep connection even with the memory stamp. And they are free to be with each other. Now if it were only that simple for Sam and Jack! I think I may just go and watch it now! :)

~Tracey~

Daniel's_twin
April 18th, 2005, 10:14 AM
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Happy Birthday, tpe78!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/Token04/OnTopicSJKiss.jpg
Have a SHIPPERIFIC day!!
:D :D
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Happy Birthday! :cool:

sierragulf_gurl_23
April 18th, 2005, 10:23 AM
Here's a song that I think sums up Sam and Jack ship...it's kinda angsty...and Caty...it'd make a great vid (hint hint)
The Corrs - Love Gives Love Takes
Just when I thought I was safe
You found me in my hiding place...

Thanx for the topic. Here is the lyrics for the Jesse McCartney song I can't stop raving about:
Why don't you kiss her:

We’re the best of friends and we share our secrets
She knows everything that is on my mind
Lately something’s changed as
I lie awake in my bed
A voice here inside my head
Softly says:

Why don’t kiss her?
Why don’t tell her?
Why don’t you let her see
The feelings that you hide
Cause she’ll never know
If you never show
The way you feel inside

Oh, I’m so afraid
To make that first move
Just a touch and we
Could cross the line
Everytime she’s here
I wanna never let her go
Confess to her what
my heart moves
Hold her close

What would she say?
I wonder would she just turn away
Or would she promise me
that she’s here to stay
it hurts me to wait
i keep asking my self

Why don’t kiss her?
(tell her love her)
Why don’t tell her?
(tell her you need her)
Why don’t you let her see
The feelings that you hide
Cause she’ll never know
If you never show
The way you feel inside

sierragulf_gurl_23
April 18th, 2005, 10:24 AM
Happy Birthday! :cool:
happy b-day!!

Rogue
April 18th, 2005, 10:28 AM
You know, that's a Stargate I could've lived quite happily with. Can I add, if it went my way, Sam & Jack would've slowly started "taking the next step" (now *that's* a cliche even I can't stand!) right after Grace--those *Others* never even existed. Just imagine it folks... I know, I've said it before, but really... really look at the second half of season seven and all of eight without the *Other* storylines ever happening. Keep everything else just exactly the same, but take out the :eek: and they'd have been right about season eight. It would have been the best year ever. Especially if we add in some of those missed opportunities and editing room floor kissage!

I so agree with your post. Instead of using Grace to point Sam in the wrong direction, they should have used it to strenghten hers and Jacks relationship. The ship was there at the end of season 7, but it sunk when Jack ran out of the engine room. Heroes, Death Knell, Evolution all had major ship moments. Pete should have been a 1 ep fling. Why not, Jack has his flings. Your right season 8 would have been so much better without the tension between Jack and Sam.

Kri
April 18th, 2005, 10:34 AM
IMO, TPTB have dealt with J/S, it is over, done with. I don't think they want to reopen that can of worms by shipping Sam with someone else.

I agree with Rogue. I truly think TPTB think they have resolved all old storylines and will now be moving forward with the new cast. I seriously doubt that storylines will focus at all on past events. Shoot, they even have a new bad guy to fight!

HI EVERYONE! :D

sueKay
April 18th, 2005, 10:35 AM
(((((Shipper Family))))))

Thank you for all the hugs and all the green

Tracey - It's becoming more and more difficult for people to get into University up here in Scotland. Scotland's the one part of the UK that's crying out for immigrants, so they're given priority for University places as an incentive for people to come to Scotland. I don't grudge the immigrants places as everyone's entitled to a good, free education.

But it's the free part that's the problem. Since the introduction of top-up fees in England and Wales, the number of applicants to Scotland from England and Wales has shot up. The Scottish executive is wanting people to move to Scotland, so again, priority is on non-scots.

Then there's another factor...There are little or no entry requirements for mature students, so a lot of people are going back to education to get degrees. Again, I don't grudge this to anyone.

But...Entry requirements for under 21 year olds are getting higher each year...Mishy Mo got three As, a B and a C for her exams last year, then applied for a course that required just two A and got rejected. All in all...it's meaning fewer people my age are getting into University...I don't blame the immigrants, other Britons or Mature Students...I blame the government for their faulty policies that work to the detriment of people like me...I'm not the only one of my group who has not got to Uni.

And I've gone off at a tangent...sorry :o

I'm going to post my new fic soon, so I hope you'll enjoy! It's a ship fic with a VERY big twist, but it's shippy so that's the main thing.

I think we should have a mini-ship day...kinda like a smaller version of the main July event...whadaya all think????

sierragulf_gurl_23
April 18th, 2005, 10:37 AM
I so agree with your post. Instead of using Grace to point Sam in the wrong direction, they should have used it to strenghten hers and Jacks relationship. The ship was there at the end of season 7, but it sunk when Jack ran out of the engine room. Heroes, Death Knell, Evolution all had major ship moments. Pete should have been a 1 ep fling. Why not, Jack has his flings. Your right season 8 would have been so much better without the tension between Jack and Sam.
I agree with both of you.

sierragulf_gurl_23
April 18th, 2005, 10:42 AM
(((((Shipper Family))))))...
I think we should have a mini-ship day...kinda like a smaller version of the main July event...whadaya all think????
We should definitely have a mini-ship day. :D Anybody else agrees?

dipsofjazz
April 18th, 2005, 11:12 AM
You know what would be cool. if they redid the sceane from 801 wth Sam & Tealc. Where T. Asks how is O'Neill and instead of having to think and justify her relationship like she did when he asked about pete sam just goes of into a babble of how happy she is untill she gets embarsed about talking so freely to T. and he just does his eyebrow lift while trying not to laugh at her.and says indeed! God they could make that so funny if they wanted to!
This would be a great scene to have. :D

Twisted Angel (Sam_rules)
April 18th, 2005, 11:12 AM
(((((Shipper Family))))))

Thank you for all the hugs and all the green

Tracey - It's becoming more and more difficult for people to get into University up here in Scotland. Scotland's the one part of the UK that's crying out for immigrants, so they're given priority for University places as an incentive for people to come to Scotland. I don't grudge the immigrants places as everyone's entitled to a good, free education.

But it's the free part that's the problem. Since the introduction of top-up fees in England and Wales, the number of applicants to Scotland from England and Wales has shot up. The Scottish executive is wanting people to move to Scotland, so again, priority is on non-scots.

Then there's another factor...There are little or no entry requirements for mature students, so a lot of people are going back to education to get degrees. Again, I don't grudge this to anyone.

But...Entry requirements for under 21 year olds are getting higher each year...Mishy Mo got three As, a B and a C for her exams last year, then applied for a course that required just two A and got rejected. All in all...it's meaning fewer people my age are getting into University...I don't blame the immigrants, other Britons or Mature Students...I blame the government for their faulty policies that work to the detriment of people like me...I'm not the only one of my group who has not got to Uni.

And I've gone off at a tangent...sorry :o

I'm going to post my new fic soon, so I hope you'll enjoy! It's a ship fic with a VERY big twist, but it's shippy so that's the main thing.

I think we should have a mini-ship day...kinda like a smaller version of the main July event...whadaya all think????

I know it's off topic but I will reply to this!

Yeah I heard that... My aunt lives in Scotland. My 2 cousins went to uni fine (they are 26, 28 now) but now, like you said, it is hard for Scottish people!
And it is true about more English and Welsh people applying to Scottish uni's. My friend in fact is doing a psychology course (I think anyway) in Glasgow uni!
And it is all good! You should be able to go to your uni of choice, but they should be helping Scottish people more as well.

About entry requirements, I here you! It is awful for our age groups. I am 20 now and luckily for the course I am doing, your only really need 5 GCSEs A-C and any A-levels of any grade. But for the course I originally wanted to do when I left college 1 and half years ago (a psychology degree), they wanted basically 300 UCAS points plus! That is so high and obviously I didn't have as much as that so I got rejected! And yes, most courses now have upped the points and I think it is totally unfair! And I do think it is the government’s fault in part as well!

I really hope you get what you want to do. There are many possibilities and ways around to get to where you want to go. I hope you find them! :)

And to the mini ship day I say, hell yeah! :) I think we could all do with a good old knees up! And it will just get us ready for the big ship day! :)

~Tracey~

LOL4JACK
April 18th, 2005, 11:21 AM
(((((Shipper Family))))))

I'm going to post my new fic soon, so I hope you'll enjoy! It's a ship fic with a VERY big twist, but it's shippy so that's the main thing.

I think we should have a mini-ship day...kinda like a smaller version of the main July event...whadaya all think????
I have no idea what a ship day means, but if it's shippy.... I'm all in :p :p :p :p

THanks for the idea....

PS: Will we have cake?

sueKay
April 18th, 2005, 11:27 AM
(((((Tracey))))))

For courses that only need 1 A level...you normally need FOUR Highers...the only difference between an A leven and a Higher is a name...A levels used to be more difficult, but now they're at the same level...

Yeah...we need a mini knees up to get into a SHIPPER HIGH!

Speaking of Shipper highs...

I've got a new fanfic!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sueKay presents...

Another Life (http://s10.invisionfree.com/Intel_Fanfiction/index.php?showtopic=122&st=0)

Exactly what the name suggests...if things had been different from day one...

chapter one's not shippy, but it is a true ship story...look out for future chapters!

Lunar
April 18th, 2005, 11:27 AM
SueKay, I'm really sorry to hear that about your Uni course... :(
I feel *particularly* bad about it, as I'm an English student that has applied to a Scottish university...But I do have to tell you that English applicants to Scottish universities still have to pay all the tuition fees we would at English ones. It doesn't matter *where* we go, there's no escaping them.

lonely_star
April 18th, 2005, 11:27 AM
We should definitely have a mini-ship day. :D Anybody else agrees?

I DO!!! :D :D I'm in !! don't know what is the normal ship day event but I'm always ready to spend great moments with my shipper fellows !! ;) :p


HAPPY BIRTHDAY tpe78 !!

Twisted Angel (Sam_rules)
April 18th, 2005, 11:35 AM
(((((Tracey))))))

For courses that only need 1 A level...you normally need FOUR Highers...the only difference between an A leven and a Higher is a name...A levels used to be more difficult, but now they're at the same level...

Yeah...we need a mini knees up to get into a SHIPPER HIGH!

Speaking of Shipper highs...

I've got a new fanfic!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sueKay presents...

Another Life (http://s10.invisionfree.com/Intel_Fanfiction/index.php?showtopic=122&st=0)

Exactly what the name suggests...if things had been different from day one...

chapter one's not shippy, but it is a true ship story...look out for future chapters!

Yeah they do seem to be getting easier! Although saying that, not all do! When I did biology it was really, really hard!

We do indeed! And we need something to keep us going until our US shippers get the new season! :)

Oh, fanfic fanfic...:D

I will go and read soon! :)

~Tracey~

sueKay
April 18th, 2005, 11:37 AM
Lunar - OT

I never knew that...I thought the fees were waivered up here.

Though there is more financial support...I don't know how much bursary money English students get, but if if I get to Uni, my support bursary os over £3000 ($5000). I think English and Welsh Students are entitled to hardship funding as they've moved away.

Anyway ON-topic

I've just watched the ending of Beneath the Surface

Sam: Yes sir
Jack:...'sir'
both look sad
Jack: let's go home
Sam: Yes sir

Lunar
April 18th, 2005, 11:40 AM
<OT to Suekay> Nope. No hardship funding. Just the same loan you'd get at any university as long as you were actually living away from home. It does depend on family income though.

<On topic about BtS>
I adore this episode. It's one of the Jack-centric ship ones, like Entity, where I feel that for once he does more of the running. Jonah is like Jack without all the trappings of their military ranks, and you can see he just *adores* Thera, following her round like a little lost puppy... :)
One of my all time favourite eps!

girlgater
April 18th, 2005, 11:47 AM
<On topic about BtS>
I adore this episode. It's one of the Jack-centric ship ones, like Entity, where I feel that for once he does more of the running. Jonah is like Jack without all the trappings of their military ranks, and you can see he just *adores* Thera, following her round like a little lost puppy... :)
One of my all time favourite eps!

It's one of my favorite episodes as well. The sadness that they both experienced when going back while remembering was especially touching. The only thing I really didn't like about the episode was their clothes--they were terrible. :S Of course, they were slaves, so you couldn't hardly expect them to be making a fashion statement. ;)

Lord Zedd
April 18th, 2005, 11:53 AM
We should definitely have a mini-ship day. :D Anybody else agrees?
I agree suekay and sierragulf gurl

sueKay
April 18th, 2005, 11:55 AM
I know...BtS is an amazing episode...so shippy...so angsty

I love all the little convos like 'how was your day?'

'have a nice shift'

'I think his name is Homer'

lol

Hex.FTB.enabled
April 18th, 2005, 12:02 PM
I'll second (or third or fourth or whatever place I'm at) BtS. I think I loved it so much because the shippy stuff kinda came from its own place (i.e. SG-1 not reporting back and being kidnapped doesn't automatically = shippy) and yet it played into the story sooo well. To see that SG-1 was still the same characters we know and love despite supposedly having their memory/personality stamped out really says a lot. Especially about the ship. It really said how much these two people belonged together to me.

Lord Zedd
April 18th, 2005, 12:06 PM
Perhaps we can do a little quiz or so for the mini ship day? Maybe somebody can post a Sam / Jack picture and we need to guess what episode it is from. Or a quote or so?? Perhaps we have a award for the best Sam/ Jack picture or scene

sg-1fanintn
April 18th, 2005, 12:08 PM
I noticed a couple of pages back that folks were talking about what would be involved in getting RDA to do phoners to keep the Ship alive. I can tell you from personal professional experience that.....

Phone calls with RDA would be very easy to do without interferring too much with his schedule. Most broadcast facilities and studios have equalized phone lines or use devices called Comrexes, that provide broadcast quality sound over phone lines. They're used in remote broadcasts like ball games, for instance. They could just get RDA to go by a studio somewhere in L. A. and record a few lines.....or even install an equalized line at his house, if they wanted.

Technically, it's very doable, at a minimum of effort for him. Cross your fingers!

Daniel's_twin
April 18th, 2005, 12:22 PM
Perhaps we can do a little quiz or so for the mini ship day? Maybe somebody can post a Sam / Jack picture and we need to guess what episode it is from. Or a quote or so?? Perhaps we have a award for the best Sam/ Jack picture or scene

I'm for all for that idea! I've already got an image selected. Maybe the award could be a gold-plated trophy of Jack and Sam embracing each other. :cool:

Oma-1
April 18th, 2005, 12:54 PM
Finally, finally caught up :p

Firstly


Welcome Patsbabe!

Ya snook in when I wasn't lookin' :p I love your idea of a scene between Sam & Teal'c! I sat here trying to do the eyebrow thing and getting strange looks from the kids :o :p

BtS. One of my fave shippy eps....


To see that SG-1 was still the same characters we know and love despite supposedly having their memory/personality stamped out really says a lot.

I'm with you Hex. I *love* the way Sam & Jack are together. No regs, no personal hangups, just two people feeling feelings. :) *happy shippy sigh*

I can look at Sam's head on Jack's shoulder pic all day long. Despite their circumstances, they find real peace and contentment together. Their interaction is just great. I agree wholeheartedly with suekay *nods head vigourously*. Very important part of any relationship is enjoying daily interaction - convos, jokes, cuddles....

Just ignore me, I'm rambling now :p

Gatetrixer
April 18th, 2005, 12:55 PM
I think it's more Jack saying good-bye to the SGC and taking his new position. I feel really sad that AT won't be there as a member of the team to say good-bye to RDA, but I have to believe that we will see something between Sam/Jack on-screen...if only a phone call. They could still film those scenes with RDA in advance and add them in editing to AT's.



At least that's what I'm hoping.
Crossing fingers, eyes, toes...
Kat

I'm sitting here thinking would there have been a nice Jack/Sam in person scene if AT hadn't had to miss those first episodes? Butfrom the track record of TPTB I kinda think we wouldn't have had much, if any. And if there would have been, it would have been something that could be taken several ways, as usual. BTW, I would never begrudge the birth of a baby for anything doing with a TV show(just in case anyone gets that impression). But like you, I hope for some sort of connection set up.

sueKay
April 18th, 2005, 12:58 PM
It wouldn't be much for Sam to be standing on base...phone in hand...talking to Jack...RDA wouldn't even need to be involved.

Gatetrixer
April 18th, 2005, 01:35 PM
[QUOTE=sueKay]Lunar - OT

I never knew that...I thought the fees were waivered up here.

Though there is more financial support...I don't know how much bursary money English students get, but if if I get to Uni, my support bursary os over £3000 ($5000). I think English and Welsh Students are entitled to hardship funding as they've moved away.

Anyway ON-topic

I've just watched the ending of Beneath the Surface

Sam: Yes sir
Jack:...'sir'
both look sad
Jack: let's go home
Sam: Yes sir[/QUOTEI

I hope things work out for you. Best of luck. However, as an American ,I'm curious. What is the difference between University and Uni?

Catysg1
April 18th, 2005, 01:49 PM
I know...BtS is an amazing episode...so shippy...so angsty

I love all the little convos like 'how was your day?'

'have a nice shift'

'I think his name is Homer'

lol


I also watched Beneath the surface today and didn't they hold hands right at the beginning when they go to the meeting ...they listen to what they have to say just before getting some food and the bread :rolleyes: Well when the woman finishes talking Sam and Jack head for the food and it seems like they were holding hands and Sam releases it from Jack ..I mean ..it's quick so don't blink or you won't see it ...but I saw something ..I think I need to rewatch it again tonight just in case I 'm wrong but it did look like it to me .


Caty:)

sueKay
April 18th, 2005, 01:50 PM
Gatetrixer - OT - University and Uni are the same thing

Anywho...I'm back in my writing groove!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Woo hoo!!!!!!!!

*does the shipper salsa*

g2g

Suz
xxxxx

ohshocking
April 18th, 2005, 01:53 PM
However, as an American ,I'm curious. What is the difference between University and Uni?Uni is just short for University. Do Americans not shorten it to Uni? *confused*

Also, to SueKay I wish you the best of luck with future Uni applications. I've applied this year, it's a taxing process, I know!


I'll second (or third or fourth or whatever place I'm at) BtS. I think I loved it so much because the shippy stuff kinda came from its own place (i.e. SG-1 not reporting back and being kidnapped doesn't automatically = shippy) and yet it played into the story sooo well. To see that SG-1 was still the same characters we know and love despite supposedly having their memory/personality stamped out really says a lot. Especially about the ship. It really said how much these two people belonged together to me.
I have to completely agree. I adore BtS, one of my favourite episodes. It really shows how S&J would be together if they could. They are also just utterly adorable as Jonah and Thera, and so natural is their relationship that they feel things even when their memories have been taken... *shippy sigh*

Uber
April 18th, 2005, 02:03 PM
<snip>
We may even hear some nice things like Barrett asking her " really , is it really serious between you too ?!" and we all know what Sam will say ...She may even say "I love him and have done so for a long time " blablabla ..
<snip>
Caty:)
I also think that there's a good chance that Orlin and Barrett's appearances could in a nuanced kind of way work to reinforce the Sam/Jack ship...but I believe it will be alot more subtle than that...

I see something like this:

Barrett and Sam are talking over whatever it is they're working on together...Sam heads over to the computer and starts typing... Barrett sees this as an opportunity to spark a conversation:

Barrett: So, uh, I noticed you're not wearing a ring.
Sam (surprised at his bluntness): No...no I'm not.
Barrett (hems and haws a little): You know, that dinner invitation is still open.
Sam (turns to face him, humored by his poor sense of timing, and then turns back to the computer): Sorry, Barrett, but I'm involved with someone.
Barrett (a little embarrassed): Oh, really? Same guy as before?
Sam (tersely, hoping the conversation ends sooner rather than later): No.
Barrett (feeling uneasy, but in too deep to let it drop just yet): So, um, is it serious?
Sam (grinning coyly): You might say that.
Sam and Barrett exchange an awkward glance before they continue working.

Gatetrixer
April 18th, 2005, 02:23 PM
Gatetrixer - OT - University and Uni are the same thing

Anywho...I'm back in my writing groove!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Woo hoo!!!!!!!!

*does the shipper salsa*

g2g

Suz
xxxxxOk, I thought you said you weren't going to University but you were going to Uni. So thought it was two diff things.

Cassie
April 18th, 2005, 02:29 PM
We should definitely have a mini-ship day. :D Anybody else agrees?

I agree ;)
Okay we need shippy cookies, cake, penguins anything else :)

wynter
April 18th, 2005, 03:27 PM
hiya guys,


wow i'm so busy lately i havent been able to come on as often as i like!

Big thanks to Caty who PM me thanks i'm loving your work soooo much!!

i haven't had time to catch up on posts so thats what i'll be doing over the next 2 days so i can stay updated here i need more time to talk to my shipper family.

I havent even updated myself on the episodes,God so busy i didn't realise they had a new series of ALIAS till last night so i'm not happy that i missed 3 episodes like that would ever happen when stargate is on i don't think so!!

right will be back later or tomorrow so shipper hugs to every-onexx

wynterxx

sg-1fanintn
April 18th, 2005, 03:28 PM
Uber.....your scenario sounds very probable! That's just how I would expect them to handle it.

Hello, out there, fellow shippers. I am still waiting for someone who was at Gatecon to post SOMETHING about the S/J ship. I'm sure everyone with the show was sworn to secrecy, but was there not a smile, a raised eyebrow, a vague, "I don't think you'll be disappointed."?????????? Nothing? Please, someone, spill the beans!

lonely_star
April 18th, 2005, 03:38 PM
IBarrett and Sam are talking over whatever it is they're working on together...Sam heads over to the computer and starts typing... Barrett sees this as an opportunity to spark a conversation:

Barrett: So, uh, I noticed you're not wearing a ring.
Sam (surprised at his bluntness): No...no I'm not.
Barrett (hems and haws a little): You know, that dinner invitation is still open.
Sam (turns to face him, humored by his poor sense of timing, and then turns back to the computer): Sorry, Barrett, but I'm involved with someone.
Barrett (a little embarrassed): Oh, really? Same guy as before?
Sam (tersely, hoping the conversation ends sooner rather than later): No.
Barrett (feeling uneasy, but in too deep to let it drop just yet): So, um, is it serious?
Sam (grinning coyly): You might say that.
Sam and Barrett exchange an awkward glance before they continue working.

he he ! NICE !! :D :cool:

my opinion about Bts: I've realised that's very shippy just a while ago when I arrived here because in french it's not as shippy!! :( they translate the feelings conversation into really a feeling of brotherhood for thor :eek: so the meaning completely changes...it's not sheepy at all she just says that's sympathetic that he has a brotherhood feeling for thor ! :eek: :S
and the end is different too she says "Jack" he says "my colonel" as if he wanted to reproach her to all him jack, she nods and the he says let's back home...it changes the meaning a lot...there's not this exchange anymore between the two of them...but now that I know the original episode, I love it too !!! :p :p :D

agree with their style...not very fashion :D :D

Oma-1
April 18th, 2005, 03:49 PM
I've seen a link to Shipmum's livejournal, but it's mainly Atlantis stuff. Although she does mention that Tame was on top form, so we should be getting some juicy stuff from her soon :D

*fingers crossed*

Here's Shipmum's link :D http://www.livejournal.com/users/shipmum/

sg-1fanintn
April 18th, 2005, 04:03 PM
On topic but off discussion.....

A couple of things I've been mulling over from "Threads and "Moebius 1 & 2":

1. In "Moebius 1 & 2," alternate timeline Jack's hair is darker than our timeline Jack. Check it out. I think they put a rinse on his hair for the other timeline.....probably to keep us from being confused (as we were) over whether we got "our" team back.

2. In "Threads" and "Moebius 1 & 2," Sam and Jack are sitting on the dock at Jack's cabin fishing alone. It seems to me that when Daniel and Teal'c arrive, they're just getting there. I mean, it's a short walk to the cabin for a drink. Why would they be setting up their chairs and bringing out the ice chest unless they were just arriving? Maybe Sam & Jack had been alone at the cabin for a day or two already......I hope, I hope.....

Just some rambling thoughts......while we keep waiting for some nuance on the Ship from someone who went to Vancouver!

ses110
April 18th, 2005, 04:29 PM
Thanks Caty I agree.I doubt TPTB will have Sam be with another guy.I think TPTB and AT know the Sam character would be finished if Sam is with anyone except Jack.I just think the Sam character is in a bit of a recovery.Sam just left Pete and finally went Fishing with Jack.I just do not understand why TPTB would want to go down the Male guest Star falling for Sam road again.Even if Sam shows no interesting in these Guys it still looks like a Soap Opera.I never thought the Sam and Jack Ship was like a Soap Opera but I always thought Sam and the guest Star of the week was a joke.I think if we knew for sure RDA would be in some episodes with AT we could brush off the Guest Stars coming back.IMO TPTB should be doing whatever they can to reach out to all the Fans and not jerking around a certain Fans base.I though the idea was to try to reach the most Fans and not to upset a large part of the Fan base.Looking back I wish I was not such a loyal viewer.I should have stayed away from most of Season 8.If I had it to do over again I would have missed most of the Season.

sugarshaker
April 18th, 2005, 04:29 PM
I see something like this:

Barrett and Sam are talking over whatever it is they're working on together...Sam heads over to the computer and starts typing... Barrett sees this as an opportunity to spark a conversation:

Barrett: So, uh, I noticed you're not wearing a ring.
Sam (surprised at his bluntness): No...no I'm not.
Barrett (hems and haws a little): You know, that dinner invitation is still open.

snip




I like it! That should be the first of MANY references to the S/J ship in S9. :)

sugarshaker
April 18th, 2005, 04:32 PM
Thanks Caty I agree.I doubt TPTB will have Sam be with another guy.I think TPTB and AT know the Sam character would be finished if Sam is with anyone except Jack.I just think the Sam character is in a bit of a recovery.Sam just left Pete and finally went Fishing with Jack.I just do not understand why TPTB would want to go down the Male guest Star falling for Sam road again.Even if Sam shows no interesting in these Guys it still looks like a Soap Opera.I never thought the Sam and Jack Ship was like a Soap Opera but I always thought Sam and the guest Star of the week was a joke.I think if we knew for sure RDA would be in some episodes with AT we could brush off the Guest Stars coming back.IMO TPTB should be doing whatever they can to reach out to all the Fans and not jerking around a certain Fans base.I though the idea was to try to reach the most Fans and not to upset a large part of the Fan base.Looking back I wish I was not such a loyal viewer.I should have stayed away from most of Season 8.If I had it to do over again I would have missed most of the Season.

I can't imagine that they'd do this. Then again, I never in my wildest dreams imagined that they'd do anything like Chimera, so who knows what goes through their addled little noggins? If worse comes to worse, I'll retire with my season 1-8 DVD's and fanfics, but I think things are going to turn out OK.:)

Cassie
April 18th, 2005, 04:40 PM
On topic but off discussion.....

A couple of things I've been mulling over from "Threads and "Moebius 1 & 2":

1. In "Moebius 1 & 2," alternate timeline Jack's hair is darker than our timeline Jack. Check it out. I think they put a rinse on his hair for the other timeline.....probably to keep us from being confused (as we were) over whether we got "our" team back.

2. In "Threads" and "Moebius 1 & 2," Sam and Jack are sitting on the dock at Jack's cabin fishing alone. It seems to me that when Daniel and Teal'c arrive, they're just getting there. I mean, it's a short walk to the cabin for a drink. Why would they be setting up their chairs and bringing out the ice chest unless they were just arriving? Maybe Sam & Jack had been alone at the cabin for a day or two already......I hope, I hope.....

Just some rambling thoughts......while we keep waiting for some nuance on the Ship from someone who went to Vancouver!

Yep I agree with ya that Jack and Sam had there alone time for awhile before the babysitters came :P And remember Jack only told Sam "you've got packing to do!" Also Sam said "I can't believe we didn't do 'it' years ago. She didn't say fishing or this she said "it" I think that was the TPTB way of telling us that they are together!


OT now!!!
(((((SueKay))))) Good Luck with College and Web design! Have you ever thought of writing as a major just wondering because your fics are really good! And remember things happen for a reason you'll get in GL!!!!

dipsofjazz
April 18th, 2005, 04:54 PM
:D Hi chums. I see we're thinking about having a mini ship day. It sounds like fun to me. For those of you that were wondering what the actual shipper day is, here is the link (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=2698&highlight=annual+shipper) to last years fun. :D

ses110
April 18th, 2005, 05:09 PM
SS when it comes to TPTB I can image anything.I do think AT would have a Big problem if they go the Male guest Star of the week for Sam.In regards to RDA I think it's great he is spending time with his Daughter and RDA does not owe the Fans anything.I just would be very surprised if we only see RDA in episodes 1 and 3.It cannot be that hard to shoot a couple of Nice Sam and Jack scences.I'am still hoping for the best.

Uber
April 18th, 2005, 05:10 PM
I can't imagine that they'd do this. Then again, I never in my wildest dreams imagined that they'd do anything like Chimera, so who knows what goes through their addled little noggins? If worse comes to worse, I'll retire with my season 1-8 DVD's and fanfics, but I think things are going to turn out OK.:)
But see I look at the big picture here. I'm not about to put this whole thing in spoiler tags... so I'll use spoiler space instead.

Grace, Chimera, Affinity and Threads

S
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Grace was important for Sam to realize that she wanted more for herself beyond a brilliant career at the SGC. She had so much time to just think about her life and assess her priorities and goals...and came to the conclusion that she wanted what her father had. I personally believe that "Jacob" was trying to get her to think beyond the obvious...that maybe the thing that's obstructing her road to happiness and love wasn't Jack but rather her career. Unfortunately, her she came to another conclusion (but then again, she had a concussion) and that was that she only wanted Jack because he was out of her reach and therefore "safe."

Chimera was important because she attempted to have more for herself with someone she deemed accessible and really cute (sorry Pete haters, but David DeLuise is just gorgeous)...but it also showed that awkwardness between Jack and her regarding her personal life was alive and well (reference the elevator scene). If neither of them felt anything, there wouldn't have been that uneasiness between them. He would have been happy for her, and that would have been that.

Affinity was important because Sam was willing to make a commitment to someone long-term. This was a huge step for her because as "Jacob" said to her in Grace, she subconciously was scared of love because she feared it must inevitably end in disappointment. But she already had doubts - it took her two weeks to even broach the topic with Jack (who was clearly disappointed she hadn't already said "no" to Pete) much less Pete himself, the guy who actually proposed to her. And it seems to me that she was trying to "have that life" with someone (since she couldn't have Jack)...and Pete was a good enough a candidate as any.

Threads was the most important of the group because it's the culmination of Grace, Chimera and Affinity. She realized that the conclusions she had come to in Grace...that she only wanted Jack because he was safe (unaccessible)...were completely wrong. She wanted him because she honestly loved him.

She further realized that making a commitment just for the sake of moving on was tantamount to settling for second best...and this all became glaringly obvious to her with the house and talk of a dog. It seems non-specific discussions of getting married and moving on were okay; but the actual reality of that concept...the till death do us part, house with a yellow kitchen and a big backyard for the dog...were so specific in nature and she realized this was not really what she wanted for herself. Not with Pete at least. As I said earlier, just because Pete was "available" didn't mean he was right for her and she became more and more aware that this wasn't what she really wanted.

She even had the guts to approach Jack to finally discuss with him her feelings...not because of her father and not because of Kerry (she had no knowledge of either), but because she came to that place where after a great deal of thought (I'm sure she was thinking about it in the car ride to the house among other times), she recognized she was at a watershed moment. Does she marry Pete, which her gut was telling her was more than likely a huge mistake or does she take a chance and finally express her feelings for Jack and let the chips fall where they may - not knowing if he reciprocated or how her career would be affected? Of course she was interrupted so we'll never know exactly what would have happened had what's her face not been there.

Poor Jack was clearly uncomfortable...not because he knew what she was going to say, because he obviously he knew where she was going with the conversation. But the timing was so atrocious because they weren't alone.

So now we have it...Jack has no choice but to come to terms with feelings he's been ignoring for years for the sake of the military and their work.

Sam also has finally come face to face with what she wants and needs and is clearly willing to pursue it...at least on some level.

I personally have NO DOUBT that they will end up together in the long run. But as to their immediate future, how soon and how quickly will they move closer together now that they won't be in the same chain of command? Will they now be willing to rush into a relationship or will they both still be a little gun shy and want to take it slow as to not jeopardize their deep and abiding friendship?

Only time will tell...and I'll be there to watch...whatever happens.

LOL4JACK
April 18th, 2005, 05:15 PM
:D Hi chums. I see we're thinking about having a mini ship day. It sounds like fun to me. For those of you that were wondering what the actual shipper day is, here is the link (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=2698&highlight=annual+shipper) to last years fun. :D
Thank you Dipsofjazz,

I definitly love the idea.... mmmm Shippy day, http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_55.gif can we have:

- Best shippy moment
- Best shippy quote
- Best shippy kiss
- Best shippy moment without being shippy....

Does it have to be mini?

sugarshaker
April 18th, 2005, 05:26 PM
Thank you Dipsofjazz,

I definitly love the idea.... mmmm Shippy day, http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_55.gif can we have:


Does it have to be mini?

Since it's only 3 more months, why don't we have a little "shiplet" day now, if that's what people want, and a BIG AND HONKIN' ship day on July 27? :D

sugarshaker
April 18th, 2005, 05:30 PM
major snippage

Will they now be willing to rush into a relationship or will they both still be a little gun shy and want to take it slow as to not jeopardize their deep and abiding friendship?

Only time will tell...and I'll be there to watch...whatever happens.

Sam had better get her behind in gear or she'll find that she waited so long for her ship to come in her pier collapsed! :p

lonely_star
April 18th, 2005, 05:38 PM
Thank you Dipsofjazz,

I definitly love the idea.... mmmm Shippy day, http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_55.gif can we have:

- Best shippy moment
- Best shippy quote
- Best shippy kiss
- Best shippy moment without being shippy....

Does it have to be mini?

yep love the idea too !!! :D we should do that soon ! I have the impression we all have to be reassured and have fun with our favorite couple !!! ;)

by the way, great post Uber, great sum up of the situation ! :)

just watched shades of grey, I think he could have apologised for what he said to her...but he only talks to Daniel...too bad :(

LOL4JACK
April 18th, 2005, 06:11 PM
Joe, I have a question......

Can you promise all us Sam & Jack shippers that you won't break our hearts when the show returns this summer? We can accept RDA leaving, but there's so much concern on the threads about whether the integrity of the Ship will be maintained as we've seen it built up over the last two seasons.

So, can you promise us you won't break our hearts?

That's all I want to know! All the other changes, I can accept.

SG-1fanintn, I love your post/question to Joe, it's so heartfull I really hope that he answers. :)

Carolina