PDA

View Full Version : Sam Carter/Jack O'Neill Ship Appreciation Thread



Pages : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 [54] 55 56 57

majorsal
September 21st, 2005, 06:39 PM
Well, considering the current mood here, I'm not even sure if I should post this. But I will, because you deserve to know. The ratings for the finale are out, and they're not good. This excerpt from the article:

"The SCI FI Channel's 2-hour Stargate SG-1 event wasn't enough to keep the series from falling to its lowest ratings of the season on September 16, as the long-running show faced new competition from network premieres, professional wrestling, and reality TV.

The back-to-back SG-1 episodes "Prototype" and "The Fourth Horseman, Part 1" averaged a 1.8 household rating from 8 p.m. to 10 p.m. Eastern/Pacific. This is down 10 percent (0.2 points) from the previous week's SG-1 episode and five percent (0.1 points) from last week's episode of Atlantis, but even with the same week a year ago (Season Eight's "Endgame")."

From me: Or could it be that fans are simply missing the essential components that made the show "must-see" viewing for them in the past, and are going elsewhere?

To read the entire article, go here:
http://www.gateworld.net/news/2005/09/isg-1ifinalefallstoseasonl.shtml

this has happened for the last three years in a row. around the sixth ep, the ratings start going down. and they go back to great when the show returns in january. i'm not worried, i still think there will be a season 10... and i PRAY we'll FINALLY get our PRO sam and jack RESOLUTION! (you know, see them together, as a couple. happy.)



sally :)

Gatetrixer
September 21st, 2005, 06:40 PM
if sam and jack stayed in to watch a movie, what would they watch?
what? i'm in the mood for silly questions.


Tom Jones, though they might not make it through the eating scene.

scjon
September 21st, 2005, 06:40 PM
Well, sticking my foot in again like I did before when the subject of whether this should be a "happy place" entirely or a place where we can vent. IMO opinion it should be BOTH! This is the Sam/Jack family discussion thread after all, so let's discuss. And if the thread gets very negative as it does sometimes (anyone remember this thread when we saw those pics of "Assinity" last year?) then someone can come on and cheer us up in some way, hopefully. Or if it's too much sweetness and light for someone, you should be able to put in your two cents, no matter how dark those cents are. Families are not homogenous, unless they're clones. And I might add we have lost people because they didn't like to be called out (at least they thought so) when they were negative and if we have someone leave because of just the opposite situation then this thread might as well be called "the flat-line" thread because it'll be dead!

Nuff said--let's discuss.
I couldn't agree more with this!

ses110
September 21st, 2005, 06:46 PM
Sally I'am not sure the ratings will go up this Time.The last couple of Years RDA was still around.TPTB should have added some more Sam and Jack Ship from Sam's side and more mention of Jack.The raings may improve in the second half but I do not think the ratings will be as good without RDA.It looks like the Show did not get the adding ratings from Farscape Fans.TPTB did a Bad Job in reaching out to Shippers and long time Fans.TPTB attitude was this is the new Show now deal with it.

majorsal
September 21st, 2005, 06:46 PM
I enjoyed season 7 the second time around. Season 8, there won't be a second time because I am not going to buy the DVDs. The reason being is that I didn't get the resolution I wanted. The only way I have to show disapproval is to hit them were it counts, the wallet.

funny that you mention the dvds.... i've got seasons 1-4, with 4 still unopened. i bought 4 when the pete situation started, so i didn't have it in me to watch any eps.... and still haven't. in fact, i'm considering selling my dvds and just buying individual disks with the 40 eps i want.

funny how being disappointed can effect the entire package...




sally :)

sg-1fanintn
September 21st, 2005, 06:51 PM
if sam and jack stayed in to watch a movie, what would they watch?
what? i'm in the mood for silly questions.

How about all three Indiana Jones movies? There were no hockey-related movies at Blockbuster when Sam stopped by.

Oh, yeah.....and War of the Worlds!

stargate barbie
September 21st, 2005, 06:58 PM
Well, sticking my foot in again like I did before when the subject of whether this should be a "happy place" entirely or a place where we can vent. IMO opinion it should be BOTH! This is the Sam/Jack family discussion thread after all, so let's discuss. And if the thread gets very negative as it does sometimes (anyone remember this thread when we saw those pics of "Assinity" last year?) then someone can come on and cheer us up in some way, hopefully. Or if it's too much sweetness and light for someone, you should be able to put in your two cents, no matter how dark those cents are. Families are not homogenous, unless they're clones. And I might add we have lost people because they didn't like to be called out (at least they thought so) when they were negative and if we have someone leave because of just the opposite situation then this thread might as well be called "the flat-line" thread because it'll be dead!

Nuff said--let's discuss.
Assinity made me sad before i saw it. and then it made my eyes bleed razor blades when i saw it. its rare that an episode with a shippy scene sucks, but this was the worst episode of either stargate series that i have ever seen in my life. so much as i would like to suppress all memories of the episode and any discussion surrounding it, i can't.

i'm all for people venting, and such business, so long as its done in a way that is respectful to both the people on this thread and those involved in the making of the show. and i'd like to think that if someone were to find me disrespectful, they would call me on it so that i could apologise and either move on or rephrase my comments.

but i do prefer when the thread is more positive. when i come here to vent, i do so in the hope that my ship-um-mates ( :s ) will cheer me up not wallow with me, so that we all fall into a pit of bitter angry depressed cookie induced madness. i don't vent to bum everyone out, i do it to try to cheer up. and equally, when you guys have something to vent about, i try to put a more positive spin on things if i can. i try to come up with an option that may not have been considered, or i try to find reason and justification. i try to put things into a different light.

if i disagree with something that someone says or if i find someones opinion a tad too negative for my tastes, i'll skim passed the post, but if i find something that i can't let go. or if i find something too disrespectful to someone, be that the comment itself or how its phrased i will call someone on it rather publicly than send red jello, which i think i have only done once, and definitely not to anyone here. and that was an extreme situation.

or if i find something that i respectfully disagree with, and feel that i can debate it without it getting too serious or out of hand, i'll post an opinion on that. i love fun debates.

nell
September 21st, 2005, 06:59 PM
How about all three Indiana Jones movies? There were no hockey-related movies at Blockbuster when Sam stopped by.

Oh, yeah.....and War of the Worlds!

Or, An Officer and A Gentleman! It will be a choice reflecting their relationship, ahem, when Sam's the officer and Jack's the retired gentleman!! :p Yeah, I get silly after a long day at work and dining on a cold sandwich and sipping my beer!!!

majorsal
September 21st, 2005, 06:59 PM
I'm sorry...I'm completely against plastic surgery unless it's for medical reasons...I find it vain and a waste of money...what's the point in AT asking fans to donate to charities when she goes and blows money on something like that? I know it's her money, but c'mon!

AT talks about strong women and being a role model...what sort of message is it to send out that if you get a boob job you'll get more jobs...is her worth as an actress dependant on her looks?

I wish I had a figure like ATs (before her enhancements) but even if I had all the money in the world, I wouldn't go under the knife.

Totally against it...totally totally totally

I'll be back when I'm in a better mood.


i was going to stay out of this discussion, but i want to say something...

i'm not against plastic surgery at all. it's the same thing to me as when someone goes on a diet. or changes their hair style. or exercises. or does anything to make themselves feel more attractive *to themselves*.

if amanda had this done - i don't care. it's her business, and if it makes her feel better in any way, shape, or form, then i'm happy for her.



sally :)

gilthoniel
September 21st, 2005, 07:03 PM
Yep, its her body, if it makes her feel better about herself, then hey go for it. It is one of those things that when you have it done you can't really hide it. Besides hiding it defeats the purpose of having it done. :p

She's had a little lift around the jaw line while she was away too. My brother in law is a plastic surgeon and he commented on it the other night. He says it was a nice job. :)

Elbereth

majorsal
September 21st, 2005, 07:05 PM
Sally I'am not sure the ratings will go up this Time.The last couple of Years RDA was still around.TPTB should have added some more Sam and Jack Ship from Sam's side and more mention of Jack.The raings may improve in the second half but I do not think the ratings will be as good without RDA.It looks like the Show did not get the adding ratings from Farscape Fans.TPTB did a Bad Job in reaching out to Shippers and long time Fans.TPTB attitude was this is the new Show now deal with it.


well, the only reason i want a season 10 is so i can get my PRO sam/jack shippy resolution! :D as s sam fan, though.... i'm feeling kind of... bla. they took sam's command away from her, without even an explanation for it!


sally :)

stargate barbie
September 21st, 2005, 07:05 PM
funny that you mention the dvds.... i've got seasons 1-4, with 4 still unopened. i bought 4 when the pete situation started, so i didn't have it in me to watch any eps.... and still haven't. in fact, i'm considering selling my dvds and just buying individual disks with the 40 eps i want.

funny how being disappointed can effect the entire package...




sally :)
for me, when i've been disappointed with a newer ep, i tend to go back and watch the older ones that make me feel good about the show. season 4 is the one that works best for me, along with the second half of season 8, which i only have recorded from tv so far, because i 1) can't afford them individually, and 2) they didn't have commentaries on them.
i've got 1-7 on dvd, and i'll most likely get the box set of 8 when it comes out providing there are commentaries, otherwise i'll get it when it goes cheap.

i'll buy 9 if i like it, but not if i don't.

after certain episodes of season 7 and 8, i watched POV, D&C, entity, metamorphosis and paradise lost lots of times, to mention just a few. and it did restore my faith for the most part.

majorsal
September 21st, 2005, 07:08 PM
Assinity made me sad before i saw it. and then it made my eyes bleed razor blades when i saw it. its rare that an episode with a shippy scene sucks, but this was the worst episode of either stargate series that i have ever seen in my life. so much as i would like to suppress all memories of the episode and any discussion surrounding it, i can't.




that's the way i felt/feel about chimera. it sucked my heart out... through my nose. slowly.



sally :)

sg-1fanintn
September 21st, 2005, 07:10 PM
On this positive-negative debate: I think most of us know each other well enough now to accept that we all have good days and bad ones. And let's face it--we're all pretty "fanatical," or we wouldn't be coming to this site all the time. I'm glad you all have strong and divergent views. That's what makes the thread so interesting.

No one here is saying that actor A is a sorry son of a gun, or that actor B's mother wears army shoes (whatever that means---I never really knew). In my time here, i've never seen anyone write anything on this thread that I thought was disrespectful. We're all pretty tolerant, but sometimes we get worried about what's going to happen to "our" show. I count on you to cheer me up when I'm down, and I try to do the same for you. And I'm willing to listen to all your opinions, whether I agree with you or not!

Hugs and shipper cookies!

stargate barbie
September 21st, 2005, 07:10 PM
How about all three Indiana Jones movies? There were no hockey-related movies at Blockbuster when Sam stopped by.

Oh, yeah.....and War of the Worlds!
how bout signs, jack rents it out cos he knows it irks her, and she'll rant about it and he loves when she does that.

or independence day.

Gatetrixer
September 21st, 2005, 07:12 PM
Oh! I have a neat idea. Don't know if anyone will want to play or not, but I have to run for a couple of hours, so who knows what might be here when I get back?? :)

Here it is.

Why don't we try speculating on how the "big reveal" will actually take place? How we want it to, versus how we think it might actually go down (in canon). Without turning this into a dart board for the powers that be, can we come up with some scenarios for - heck, lets say season ten is the year; lets say we don't get the actual fireworks this year, BUT lets say Rick comes back in season ten, perhaps even full time (he does intend to come back, after all, this absence isn't a permanent plan for him). Lets say he comes back in season ten. And lets try and be realistic, how could it go down? Would the rest of SG-1 already know about the two of them? Would there be a big reveal? Ideas? Suggestions? Wanton DREAMS? lol :p


Sam would be lost on P-something or other, and Jack rushes to SGC, shortly after he gets there and arguing with Landry about going to rescue her, there's a signal to open the Gate and Sam comes through. Then there's a scene of Jack running to Sam in slow motion and Sam starts running to him in slo-mo. JUST KIDDING!

It really wouldn't be given much time or be a big reveal, IMO(unfortunately). TPTB thought they had already given us what we wanted. So the rest of SG-1 would know and maybe we'd see them together in a way that showed they were a couple. Maybe leaving the Mountain together discussing where to go or what to eat in a way we know they live together. Maybe this time one or the other is in the infirmary, they hold hands or even (gasp) kiss. Not professional, I know, but it would be a contrast to other times and enough to tell us. I want more, but....

nell
September 21st, 2005, 07:14 PM
i'm all for people venting, and such business, so long as its done in a way that is respectful to both the people on this thread and those involved in the making of the show. and i'd like to think that if someone were to find me disrespectful, they would call me on it so that i could apologise and either move on or rephrase my comments.

but i do prefer when the thread is more positive. when i come here to vent, i do so in the hope that my ship-um-mates ( :s ) will cheer me up not wallow with me, so that we all fall into a pit of bitter angry depressed cookie induced madness. i don't vent to bum everyone out, i do it to try to cheer up. and equally, when you guys have something to vent about, i try to put a more positive spin on things if i can. i try to come up with an option that may not have been considered, or i try to find reason and justification. i try to put things into a different light.

if i disagree with something that someone says or if i find someones opinion a tad too negative for my tastes, i'll skim passed the post, but if i find something that i can't let go. or if i find something too disrespectful to someone, be that the comment itself or how its phrased i will call someone on it rather publicly than send red jello, which i think i have only done once, and definitely not to anyone here. and that was an extreme situation.

or if i find something that i respectfully disagree with, and feel that i can debate it without it getting too serious or out of hand, i'll post an opinion on that. i love fun debates.


((((Shipper Family))))
Several of you have posted similar thoughts regarding sharing/expressing opinions and feelings about the show, characters, actors, and TPTB. I agree that diversity in thoughts and feelings is important. I've learned alot and I appreciate different perspectives about the many issues that are raised. Hey, I've ranted myself!! :eek: And, I'm grateful for my Shipper Friends for scraping me off the bottom and lifting me up with good vibes. :) I come to Our Thread mostly because I like being shippy and sappy and fluffy. :p RL is serious enough without my hobby getting me stressed out!! :eek: But, as long as we express ourselves respectfully amongst each other and about the objects of our dismay, let's continue to do so. Ship, ship, hooray!!! :D

stargate barbie
September 21st, 2005, 07:14 PM
that's the way i felt/feel about chimera. it sucked my heart out... through my nose. slowly.



sally :)
i'm sorry, chi-what-a? i don't remember that one? i vaguely recall one where they freed sarah from osiris. sam tried dating a jackass, and then.... um.... well presumably she dumped him for being a big stupid jerk?
is that the one you're talking about?
how she ended up engaged to a guy who looked a lot like him i have no idea, all i know is that that relationship helped her realise that she'll always be in love with her soul mate jack o'neill, and she let the potatoman down gently and then went "fishing"

sg-1fanintn
September 21st, 2005, 07:16 PM
well, the only reason i want a season 10 is so i can get my PRO sam/jack shippy resolution! :D as s sam fan, though.... i'm feeling kind of... bla. they took sam's command away from her, without even an explanation for it!


sally :)
If there isn't an S10, maybe we'll get our resolution in S9 instead!

for me, when i've been disappointed with a newer ep, i tend to go back and watch the older ones that make me feel good about the show. season 4 is the one that works best for me, along with the second half of season 8, which i only have recorded from tv so far, because i 1) can't afford them individually, and 2) they didn't have commentaries on them.
i've got 1-7 on dvd, and i'll most likely get the box set of 8 when it comes out providing there are commentaries, otherwise i'll get it when it goes cheap.

i'll buy 9 if i like it, but not if i don't.
At this point, I can't see buying S9, but I'm hoping that the last half of the season changes my mind!

Now, has everyone finished dinner? Good! It's time for dessert. Have some nice Shipper Cookies!


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/shippercookiebouquet.jpg

Buc252
September 21st, 2005, 07:24 PM
I actually liked Prototype. Fourth Horseman was ok, but we all know part II is usually better.

One problem I see is the team. I don't think the chemstry is there. They still seem like indiviuals, a carry over from season 8. They are still without a leader. Cam is a Stargate rookie and IMO not a strong leader. Should have left Sam in charge, with Cam as her 2IC.

But on the other hand, Cam seems to be the only one who really wants to be there. Sam would rather be at Area 51, Teal'c with his people and Daniel in Atlantis.

What TPTB don't seem to realize is that it's not how good *this* week's episode is that gives it good or bad ratings - it's how good the *last* week's episode was. If an episode really stinks, you're less likely to watch the same show the following week. In other words, you don't give it the chance in the first place. So poor ratings really aren't reflective of the ep that ran, IMO, but in the one that ran last week.

Does that make any sense, or is it just me?

stargate barbie
September 21st, 2005, 07:27 PM
the "Big Reveal" that i'd like to see would be something along the lines of;
jack walks into the briefing room mid-briefing, and sam just stares at him almost slack jawed, as though she's shocked to see him there. landry call an end to the briefing and walks into his office. jack just looks at sam, smirking. daniel, teal'c and mitchell say their hello's, daniel pats him on the arm or something and says "good to see you jack", and they walk out as sam stands up and move towards him. she says something like, "you should have told me you were coming", he says "where's the fun in that?". as she reaches him they take each others hand, and she leans up as he leans down and they share a shortish kiss (full of love, and longing and whatever, but also showing that they've been together a while) because they are on base, and in uniform. then they part and smile at each other, and he says, "so? dinner?", then daniel appears and says something like "where we goin'?" and sam and jack look at each other and they all leave the room together.

but thats just one idea.

nell
September 21st, 2005, 07:29 PM
If there isn't an S10, maybe we'll get our resolution in S9 instead!

At this point, I can't see buying S9, but I'm hoping that the last half of the season changes my mind!

Now, has everyone finished dinner? Good! It's time for dessert. Have some nice Shipper Cookies!


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/shippercookiebouquet.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y209/cilljill/s-jclose.bmp
Jack: How's about a piece of cake?
Sam: Sure, but let's invite The Shippers to join us!!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y209/cilljill/gateau_choco.jpg

majorsal
September 21st, 2005, 07:32 PM
It really wouldn't be given much time or be a big reveal, IMO(unfortunately). TPTB thought they had already given us what we wanted. So the rest of SG-1 would know and maybe we'd see them together in a way that showed they were a couple. Maybe leaving the Mountain together discussing where to go or what to eat in a way we know they live together. Maybe this time one or the other is in the infirmary, they hold hands or even (gasp) kiss. Not professional, I know, but it would be a contrast to other times and enough to tell us. I want more, but....

i've decided to start writing postcards/letters again to the ptb. and in fact, something i said just a bit ago is what i'll use for my first postcard.


I want there to be a season 10... and I PRAY we'll FINALLY get a PRO Sam and Jack RESOLUTION! (you know, see them together, as a couple. happy.) :D


would anyone else considering sending a postcard like this?


sally :)

trupi
September 21st, 2005, 07:36 PM
Anyone going to Vancouver in March? I can't make -up my mind if my husband and I should go! Right now the cast line up is lame and I don't want to give money over to the "establishment" if they keep lanking our chains. But I will go if some of our shippy family are going. Then it's worth going! I know Carolina was going (if she gets back to the US) and some fans from the Peter site.

stargate barbie
September 21st, 2005, 07:37 PM
What TPTB don't seem to realize is that it's not how good *this* week's episode is that gives it good or bad ratings - it's how good the *last* week's episode was. If an episode really stinks, you're less likely to watch the same show the following week. In other words, you don't give it the chance in the first place. So poor ratings really aren't reflective of the ep that ran, IMO, but in the one that ran last week.

Does that make any sense, or is it just me?
it makes sense logically, but i'm not really sure how logical the world of tv ratings is. i don't put much faith in them, but unfortunately networks do.

Gatetrixer
September 21st, 2005, 07:38 PM
Yep, its her body, if it makes her feel better about herself, then hey go for it. It is one of those things that when you have it done you can't really hide it. Besides hiding it defeats the purpose of having it done.


:p


I wasn't going to say anymore about this subject, but I'm very curious person, and this question is not about any one in particular. If a woman has this done, can she um, "nourish" in a womanly way? (ducks as shippers throw instructions for looking things up on the Internet at me) Hey, my "La Leche League" manual is too old to say anything about it.

Buc252
September 21st, 2005, 07:39 PM
Sally I'am not sure the ratings will go up this Time.The last couple of Years RDA was still around.TPTB should have added some more Sam and Jack Ship from Sam's side and more mention of Jack.The raings may improve in the second half but I do not think the ratings will be as good without RDA.It looks like the Show did not get the adding ratings from Farscape Fans.TPTB did a Bad Job in reaching out to Shippers and long time Fans.TPTB attitude was this is the new Show now deal with it.

Honestly? I hope the ratings don't go up and it gets cancelled. I'm sick of being drawn along like an addict on heroine, waiting for our next S/J fix. The only way is a clean break.

TPTB don't *deserve* a hit TV series. They've disrespected some of their most loyal fans, produced slip-shod work in scripts and storylines, stolen ideas from movies when they couldn't come up with any better ideas (and are proud of it!), and were totally disloyal to the one actor who *made* this show succeed: RDA.

And those actors who are so full of themselves as to also have spoken poorly of him can just try to get another job after this. They're going to quickly find out that they're not the "hot commodity" they think they are.

Hmmm . . . get the feeling you hit on a nerve? <g>


/rant

nell
September 21st, 2005, 07:42 PM
the "Big Reveal" that i'd like to see would be something along the lines of;
jack walks into the briefing room mid-briefing, and sam just stares at him almost slack jawed, as though she's shocked to see him there. landry call an end to the briefing and walks into his office. jack just looks at sam, smirking. daniel, teal'c and mitchell say their hello's, daniel pats him on the arm or something and says "good to see you jack", and they walk out as sam stands up and move towards him. she says something like, "you should have told me you were coming", he says "where's the fun in that?". as she reaches him they take each others hand, and she leans up as he leans down and they share a shortish kiss (full of love, and longing and whatever, but also showing that they've been together a while) because they are on base, and in uniform. then they part and smile at each other, and he says, "so? dinner?", then daniel appears and says something like "where we goin'?" and sam and jack look at each other and they all leave the room together.

but thats just one idea.

I sense the makings of a story here!!!! Chapter 2: Sam and Jack meet on the surface in the parking lot after work. At the wheel of her vintage Volvo, Sam speeds away towards her house in Colorado Springs. Climbing out of the car, our couple is giggling and holding hands as they make their way to the front door. Hey, wait a minute!!! This doesn't look like Sam's house!!! Of course not, she sold that place like a hot potato after breaking up with a cold potato-head!!! Heh, heh!! Aw, our couple is nesting in in a new house!!! Hey, they just shut the door and locked it. Hey, we can't see!!! What's happening??? What are those sounds???!!! :D :D :D

Gatetrixer
September 21st, 2005, 07:47 PM
the "Big Reveal" that i'd like to see would be something along the lines of;
jack walks into the briefing room mid-briefing, and sam just stares at him almost slack jawed, as though she's shocked to see him there. landry call an end to the briefing and walks into his office. jack just looks at sam, smirking. daniel, teal'c and mitchell say their hello's, daniel pats him on the arm or something and says "good to see you jack", and they walk out as sam stands up and move towards him. she says something like, "you should have told me you were coming", he says "where's the fun in that?". as she reaches him they take each others hand, and she leans up as he leans down and they share a shortish kiss (full of love, and longing and whatever, but also showing that they've been together a while) because they are on base, and in uniform. then they part and smile at each other, and he says, "so? dinner?", then daniel appears and says something like "where we goin'?" and sam and jack look at each other and they all leave the room together.

but thats just one idea.


I like.

trupi
September 21st, 2005, 07:48 PM
I sense the makings of a story here!!!! Chapter 2: Sam and Jack meet on the surface in the parking lot after work. At the wheel of her vintage Volvo, Sam speeds away towards her house in Colorado Springs. Climbing out of the car, our couple is giggling and holding hands as they make their way to the front door. Hey, wait a minute!!! This doesn't look like Sam's house!!! Of course not, she sold that place like a hot potato after breaking up with a cold potato-head!!! Heh, heh!! Aw, our couple is nesting in in a new house!!! Hey, they just shut the door and locked it. Hey, we can't see!!! What's happening??? What are those sounds???!!! :D :D :D
Bed springs or the shower? :D :D

majorsal
September 21st, 2005, 07:50 PM
i'm sorry, chi-what-a? i don't remember that one? i vaguely recall one where they freed sarah from osiris. sam tried dating a jackass, and then.... um.... well presumably she dumped him for being a big stupid jerk?
is that the one you're talking about?

no. it was a different ep, called 'What was I thinking!?!'. in this ep, she started dating a guy that had control issues, so at the end of the ep, sam said...

sam - 'hi, pete.'

pete - 'sam!'

sam - 'i'm here to share with you the info you wanted so badly.'

(pete smiles brightly)

sam - 'ready?'

pete - 'yes, sam.'

sam - 'for checking up on, following, and putting a officer in the united states air force into jeopardy, i'm happy to tell you that you'll be doing 5 years at an ice base in the antarctic.'

(pete gasps)

sam - 'and for checking up on, following, and putting an officer in the united states air force into jeopardy, your police force is stripping you of your rank and kicking you out.'

(pete whimpers)

sam - 'you'll be released in two hours, and you'll then have 24 to put your things in order. oh, and i'd buy some warm clothes if i were you. very warm.'




how she ended up engaged to a guy who looked a lot like him i have no idea, all i know is that that relationship helped her realise that she'll always be in love with her soul mate jack o'neill, and she let the potatoman down gently and then went "fishing"


sam never got engaged, don't you remember? there was an ep called 'affinity', but it was about teal'c finding an apartment outside of the base. a nice one near a senior retirement center. teal'c was welcomed with open arms, and he had a wonderful time. you see, he had an affinity for protecting ppl, so he loved being near ppl that wanted and needed him.

sam knew she was in love with jack by the end of lost city. in new order, after she saved him, she told him the truth and jack decided to retire. he semi retired, only working once in a while for the asgard. sam and jack finally got together, and are now celebrating their first wedding anniversary.

the beginning.


that felt good.


sally :D

sg-1fanintn
September 21st, 2005, 07:53 PM
the "Big Reveal" that i'd like to see would be something along the lines of;
jack walks into the briefing room mid-briefing, and sam just stares at him almost slack jawed, as though she's shocked to see him there. landry call an end to the briefing and walks into his office. jack just looks at sam, smirking. daniel, teal'c and mitchell say their hello's, daniel pats him on the arm or something and says "good to see you jack", and they walk out as sam stands up and move towards him. she says something like, "you should have told me you were coming", he says "where's the fun in that?". as she reaches him they take each others hand, and she leans up as he leans down and they share a shortish kiss (full of love, and longing and whatever, but also showing that they've been together a while) because they are on base, and in uniform. then they part and smile at each other, and he says, "so? dinner?", then daniel appears and says something like "where we goin'?" and sam and jack look at each other and they all leave the room together.

but thats just one idea.

And what a good one it is!!

majorsal
September 21st, 2005, 07:58 PM
Bed springs or the shower? :D :D

how about both? :D


sally :D

stargate barbie
September 21st, 2005, 08:03 PM
hey sally, was affinity the one where jack proposed to sam and she accepted immediately, and teal'c got an apartment and is still happily renting it today?

and this chi-whatever-it -was, i'm still not remembering it too clearly other than the osiris bit. i do have some vague memories of some guy sticking his nose in where it didn't belong and being really pushy and manipulative. i'm sure glad she dumped that idiot!

stargate barbie
September 21st, 2005, 08:04 PM
and thats 1,000 posts for me baby! aw yeah.

cookies anyone?

Buc252
September 21st, 2005, 08:08 PM
and thats 1,000 posts for me baby! aw yeah.

cookies anyone?

congrats, Barbie!!!

trupi
September 21st, 2005, 08:10 PM
how about both? :D
sally :D

A water-bed? :p :p

sg-1fanintn
September 21st, 2005, 08:27 PM
how bout signs, jack rents it out cos he knows it irks her, and she'll rant about it and he loves when she does that.

or independence day.

Oh, yeah! ID4! I wish I'd thought of that!

And things have been so busy lately that I haven't kept up well on people's milestones. So, for stargate barbie and everyone else celebrating big postings, have some cookies!


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/shippercookiebouquet.jpg

minigeek
September 21st, 2005, 09:03 PM
the "Big Reveal" that i'd like to see would be something along the lines of;
jack walks into the briefing room mid-briefing, and sam just stares at him almost slack jawed, as though she's shocked to see him there. landry call an end to the briefing and walks into his office. jack just looks at sam, smirking. daniel, teal'c and mitchell say their hello's, daniel pats him on the arm or something and says "good to see you jack", and they walk out as sam stands up and move towards him. she says something like, "you should have told me you were coming", he says "where's the fun in that?". as she reaches him they take each others hand, and she leans up as he leans down and they share a shortish kiss (full of love, and longing and whatever, but also showing that they've been together a while) because they are on base, and in uniform. then they part and smile at each other, and he says, "so? dinner?", then daniel appears and says something like "where we goin'?" and sam and jack look at each other and they all leave the room together.

Okay THAT deserves some green jello, baby!! Who's writin' the fanfic? Do you write fanfic, stargate barbie? Heck this idea is making *me* want to write fanfic! :p

Cathain Nottingham
September 21st, 2005, 10:04 PM
Okay THAT deserves some green jello, baby!! Who's writin' the fanfic? Do you write fanfic, stargate barbie? Heck this idea is making *me* want to write fanfic! :p

That actually gives me an idea too...

majorsal
September 21st, 2005, 10:13 PM
[QUOTE]hey sally, was affinity the one where jack proposed to sam and she accepted immediately, and teal'c got an apartment and is still happily renting it today?

oh, yes! ;)


and this chi-whatever-it -was, i'm still not remembering it too clearly other than the osiris bit. i do have some vague memories of some guy sticking his nose in where it didn't belong and being really pushy and manipulative. i'm sure glad she dumped that idiot!

the ep was called 'chipotle', and was about osiris being a spicy lass and trying to get daniel to help her... the nosey idiot was her inside helper that ended up living/working in a very cold place.


sally :)

majorsal
September 21st, 2005, 10:15 PM
A water-bed? :p :p

then we'd hear lots of wooshing and splashing and mooooaaaning... is it getting hot in here?



sally :D :p

Uber
September 21st, 2005, 10:32 PM
Ok it's time for my shameless pitch. Don't forget the Amanda Tapping contest folks!

We have several Shippers there, dipsofjazz, ForeverSG1...each of whom are leading in certain categories... so am I...

But you can't forget to vote for them...like daily...because other people are voting for other things and our projects start to lose percentage points or it's a horse race and is very close. Mine? Not so much...but Kat's terrific Betrayal wallpaper is barely in the lead.

SO VOTE DAILY ALREADY....

http://www.theamandatappingclub.net/contest/index.html

:cool:

SuSiE_SG1
September 21st, 2005, 11:47 PM
Hmm thought of another song to add to the Sam and Jack shippy CD if anyone is still interested LOL

Special Two - Missy Higgins

florence
September 22nd, 2005, 01:08 AM
Hmm thought of another song to add to the Sam and Jack shippy CD if anyone is still interested LOL

Special Two - Missy Higgins
Don't know that one...
There's also I Love You by Celine Dion. I think of Sam and Jack everytime I hear it :) Those lyrics about her going to his home, waiting in front of his door because she's nervous about telling him that she loves him... reminds me of Threads. Except that in this dream, there's no Kerry showing up ! :p

pittsburghgirl
September 22nd, 2005, 03:13 AM
Don't know that one...
There's also I Love You by Celine Dion. I think of Sam and Jack everytime I hear it :) Those lyrics about her going to his home, waiting in front of his door because she's nervous about telling him that she loves him... reminds me of Threads. Except that in this dream, there's no Kerry showing up ! :p
I would suggest Maybe I'm Amazed by Paul McCartney-

SuSiE_SG1
September 22nd, 2005, 03:39 AM
Look at Sams leg. . .

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/SuSiE_SG1/aca.jpg

sueKay
September 22nd, 2005, 03:45 AM
Heya!

Just to let you know I'm taking a few days off from this thread...I'm still very angry and disgusted at a certain actor, and it'll take a while for me to gain an appreciation for her again. What this person done was against one of my core beliefs...I've campaigned against plastic surgery and for one of my role models, one of my idols to have gone and had possibly two procedures make me feel sick to the pit of my stomach...I associate this sort of thing with the likes of Jordan...not intelligent, talented actresses.

Gatetrixer - there have been instances when silicone has made it's way into the milk, but as far as I know it's rare.

To the person who's brothers a plastic surgeon (I've forgotten who) - I have nothing against the surgeons, as obviously there are people who need it after accidents, illnesses etc etc, so don't take it personally.

See you all when I cool down.

Skydiver
September 22nd, 2005, 05:35 AM
Hey Guys

It's apparant that there's been a long and detailed 'did she/didn't she' discussion about amanda and her breasts.

all i have to say to this is, it's her business. And, since Gateworld frowns upon the discussion of an actor's personal life, i think this qualifies.

I respect that folks have passionate feelings both for and against, and if you want to open a thread in off-topic to discuss the pros and cons of plastic surgery, you're more than welcome to.

However, since this thread is to be primarily about sam and jack, i suggest that the topic of the alledged boob job be dropped.

Chrysalis
September 22nd, 2005, 06:25 AM
Hey Guys

It's apparant that there's been a long and detailed 'did she/didn't she' discussion about amanda and her breasts.

all i have to say to this is, it's her business. And, since Gateworld frowns upon the discussion of an actor's personal life, i think this qualifies.

I respect that folks have passionate feelings both for and against, and if you want to open a thread in off-topic to discuss the pros and cons of plastic surgery, you're more than welcome to.

However, since this thread is to be primarily about sam and jack, i suggest that the topic of the alledged boob job be dropped.

Nice comment! And call me crazy (I don't know what sort of time frame you're looking at for saying she's had work done) but has anyone considered that perhaps she looks a little different because she's just had a baby????
Remember Gillian Anderson? She went from being a little stick figure to suddenly having a fuller face ---- and certain other bodyparts...
From the pics I've seen of Amanda in the new episodes --- she looks great. She looks younger perhaps because she's not as skinny as she's been for the past couple of years... (and she has been seriously, seriously skinny!!)

Daniel's_twin
September 22nd, 2005, 06:57 AM
Hey Guys

It's apparant that there's been a long and detailed 'did she/didn't she' discussion about amanda and her breasts.

all i have to say to this is, it's her business. And, since Gateworld frowns upon the discussion of an actor's personal life, i think this qualifies.

I respect that folks have passionate feelings both for and against, and if you want to open a thread in off-topic to discuss the pros and cons of plastic surgery, you're more than welcome to.

However, since this thread is to be primarily about sam and jack, i suggest that the topic of the alledged boob job be dropped.

Talk about disturbing, anyway.

On with the ship!! :cool:

patsbabe
September 22nd, 2005, 07:52 AM
How about this one!
All of SG1 & General Landry get invited to some Black tie affair in the White house. Unifoms not required.
Perhaps a dinner to celebtate the retirment of General Jumper!
Any how! the gang all get there and all the seats are tagged but when they find their table, low and behold there is no place setting for Lt Col. Carter.
The gang all look around surprised. Till a v. familer voice comes from behind her "morning Campers! Hope you dont mind Samantha but I've decided as we are attending sans uniforms I took the liberty of making sure you are where you belong out of uniform..... Beside me!"
" That would make it rather offical looking General dont you think?"
"yea well its kinda time dont you think Samantha!... Anyway the Boys see you every day, I'm the one playing catch up here. I promise we will be back when the dancing starts You know have just got to discuss the whole Vala situtaion with Dannyboy here. You just dont get the whole story from a page ya know!"
"Well in that case and as we are attending san Uniforms... lead on Jack! See you guys later. Daniel no texting me to find out what he does and dosn't knows OK!"

Catysg1
September 22nd, 2005, 08:18 AM
I'm sorry...I'm completely against plastic surgery unless it's for medical reasons...I find it vain and a waste of money...what's the point in AT asking fans to donate to charities when she goes and blows money on something like that? I know it's her money, but c'mon!

AT talks about strong women and being a role model...what sort of message is it to send out that if you get a boob job you'll get more jobs...is her worth as an actress dependant on her looks?

I wish I had a figure like ATs (before her enhancements) but even if I had all the money in the world, I wouldn't go under the knife.

Totally against it...totally totally totally

I'll be back when I'm in a better mood.


Plastic surgery !! well it depends ..having breats implants : is more sexually orientated I think . I would never have breast inplants done for my man or any men for that matters . For me well , I don't see what difference it would make as I said Breast implants are more to show off to other people specially men or Husbands and I would never do it even if my hubby asks me too :rolleyes:

But facial Cosmetic surgery is another matter . May be in 15 years time if I have a wrinkly forehead ,a saggy chin and jaws , I may feel better if I lift everything up a little . I'm not to that point , I like myself right now but you never know !!!!. I think it's a bit scary to see you getting older when looking in the mirror . So perhaps if I had the money one day , I would consider a facial surgery but it would have to be very subtle , natural but Hopefully I won't need it . I moisturise my skin every night , wear sunglasses everyday of the year if it's sunshining . If I would do it , would be for me not for others and certainly not for my hubby .


A friend of mine had a very subtle facial surgery a few months ago .. chin and eyes ...and she looks so radiant and happy now . Before she didn't like herself because everything was kind of sagging ..She is 55 . It made her very happy and she now shines :)


And Sam and Jack forever together :)


Caty :)

Caty :)

trupi
September 22nd, 2005, 09:07 AM
Ladies and gentlemen I apologize for opening the can of worms the other day. I thought it well know about AT's change (not going to say it). It was printed and said at cons. and well shown in her Femme Fatale photo shoot! It is her business for whatever reason. Doesn't make her good or bad. So since I started this please can we end the discussion and talk about Sam and Jack. I'm not going to discuss this subject again over the thread. I love all you guys and am sorry if I hurt any of YOUR feelings.-Marian

shipper hannah
September 22nd, 2005, 10:42 AM
helloooo shipper family! :)
i haven't visited for a while cos, you know, schoolwork and job keeps me busy..
i'm surprised about this AT surgery rumour...i always thought that her 'increase in size' was due to her baby being born..i mean, she's still breastfeeding isn't she? i'd be surprised if this rumour turned out to be true.
anyway, back to the ship! ;)

Lynn
September 22nd, 2005, 12:05 PM
Hi Everyone!

Just wanted to take a moment to thank everyone here who has been so supportive of my recent endeavors in the world of Stargate FanFic. I truly appreciate every good wish and review I've received and I'm proud to say that my fic 'Instant Message' is now on Chapter 6 and has now received 100 reviews! :D

Now to some of you fanfic veterans this may not be a big deal but to me it's huge and you are all part of that :)

So thanks again and keep the faith!

Lynn

LOL4JACK
September 22nd, 2005, 12:31 PM
((((((((((Shipper Family)))))))) Just a little note to say thanks for your good wishes... I'm not having a nice time right now, it's just so crazy, I can't go back home because I have no visa to enter the US... and that is just the begining.

Please email me and let me know what's going on in the forum, in the ship life and overall to know about you, I miss you all.... it's easier to check my emails from time to time... Love... Carolina ([email protected])

stargate barbie
September 22nd, 2005, 01:29 PM
Okay THAT deserves some green jello, baby!! Who's writin' the fanfic? Do you write fanfic, stargate barbie? Heck this idea is making *me* want to write fanfic! :p
i've never written fanfic. thought about it, but never actually did it cos it would suck. i have enough trouble writing scripts for class. writers block going on 6 months now! i might work up the nerve/ability one day, but in the mean time let anyone and everyone feel free to write one based on my suggestion if you wish it. in fact i hearby issue a challenge to all you fic writers out there, to write some nice fluff, based as loosely or tightly on my idea as ya like.

and thanks for liking it. :D

Uber
September 22nd, 2005, 02:09 PM
i've never written fanfic. thought about it, but never actually did it cos it would suck. i have enough trouble writing scripts for class. writers block going on 6 months now! i might work up the nerve/ability one day, but in the mean time let anyone and everyone feel free to write one based on my suggestion if you wish it. in fact i hearby issue a challenge to all you fic writers out there, to write some nice fluff, based as loosely or tightly on my idea as ya like.

and thanks for liking it. :DI'm still working on mine...I've got the trilogy to finish and there are a few others...but I'm putting the Amanda Tapping website first. But then I might take time in between work and the site to continue on them too...

:D

sueKay
September 22nd, 2005, 02:55 PM
((((LOL4JACK))))

I'm so sorry about what happened to you and I hope it's sorted soon. I'll drop you an email.

minigeek
September 22nd, 2005, 03:41 PM
i've never written fanfic. thought about it, but never actually did it cos it would suck. i have enough trouble writing scripts for class. writers block going on 6 months now! i might work up the nerve/ability one day, but in the mean time let anyone and everyone feel free to write one based on my suggestion if you wish it. in fact i hearby issue a challenge to all you fic writers out there, to write some nice fluff, based as loosely or tightly on my idea as ya like. and thanks for liking it. :D

I hear ya sister. I don't write fanfic either. But I'll ask Anni if she's up for it. I'm sure with all the talent around this forum we'll probably have several amazing short stories come week's end. :D

minigeek

Uber
September 22nd, 2005, 03:55 PM
Ok it's time for my shameless pitch. Don't forget the Amanda Tapping contest folks!

We have several Shippers there, dipsofjazz, ForeverSG1...each of whom are leading in certain categories... so am I...

But you can't forget to vote for them...like daily...because other people are voting for other things and our projects start to lose percentage points or it's a horse race and is very close. Mine? Not so much...but Kat's terrific Betrayal wallpaper is barely in the lead.

SO VOTE DAILY ALREADY....

http://www.theamandatappingclub.net/contest/index.html

:cool:Someone was decidedly miffed about my shameless pitch. So let me clarify something I thought I didn't have to clarify.

The focus here is the contest and the fact that we have people here from this thread who's entered stuff.

I can recommend and ask all day long that you vote for Kat's wallpaper or Skydiver's icon or my video or whatever...but I figured it was obvious that you have the right and option to vote for whomever WHATEVER you want. You might decide you prefer to vote for something else. That's fine.

My highlighting the fact that I'd love to see people from this thread WIN does not mean that you have a gun to your heads. And you're not sheeple. Vote for whatever you want FCOL...

But again...I figured that was obvious and I thought in my shameless pitch I could be a little over the top and silly because...AGAIN...I hope people will vote for whatever they want and like and think should win and not just because they're on this thread.

I'm sorry people took that the wrong way but I honestly didn't think it was necessary to state something I figured would be obvious like that.

:cool:

stargate barbie
September 22nd, 2005, 04:02 PM
this world is made a better place by shameless pitches and i personally wouldn't mind being sheeple, cos its a funny word. only time i have issue with shameless pitches is when its done in a spamly fashion, which you have never done. i guess what i'm trying to say is;
you go girl! (i know, i'm far too irish to pull that off, even in writing)

stargate barbie
September 22nd, 2005, 04:04 PM
I hear ya sister. I don't write fanfic either. But I'll ask Anni if she's up for it. I'm sure with all the talent around this forum we'll probably have several amazing short stories come week's end. :D

minigeek
speaking of... any idea when the next part of "missing something" is going to be up?

sg-1fanintn
September 22nd, 2005, 04:06 PM
A Sam & Jack Photo Story by sg-1fanintn:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/321-CSkull1.jpg

JACK: Sam, Sam, Sam.....listen to our Shippers! They're thinking about us, talking about us,
writing new stories for us.....and you....tsk, tsk.....you were dissing our Ship.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/2ab.jpg

SAM: Uh.....Sir....Jack.....I said I was sorry.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/sub.jpg

JACK: Ah! I already forgave you! But I think we should at least give them
something to work with!

Just sayin'.


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/3a.jpg

And they loved happily ever after.....

dipsofjazz
September 22nd, 2005, 04:09 PM
Someone was decidedly miffed about my shameless pitch. So let me clarify something I thought I didn't have to clarify.

The focus here is the contest and the fact that we have people here from this thread who's entered stuff.

I can recommend and ask all day long that you vote for Kat's wallpaper or Skydiver's icon or my video or whatever...but I figured it was obvious that you have the right and option to vote for whomever WHATEVER you want. You might decide you prefer to vote for something else. That's fine.

My highlighting the fact that I'd love to see people from this thread does not mean that you have a gun to your heads. And you're not sheeple. Vote for whatever you want FCOL...

But again...I figured that was obvious and I thought in my shameless pitch I could be a little over the top and silly because...AGAIN...I hope people will vote for whatever they want and like and think should win and not just because they're on this thread.

I'm sorry people took that the wrong way but I honestly didn't think it was necessary to state something I figured would be obvious like that.

:cool:
:D I, for one, am glad you shamelessly pitched, as it saved me from doing so!(as I'm too lazy) :p
I'll add that you can reach the contest by clicking on my signature, and you can vote for whomever you wish to vote for (unless you're a sheeple!) :D

stargate barbie
September 22nd, 2005, 04:11 PM
if you're sheeple who should you vote for!?! i need to know! ;)

dipsofjazz
September 22nd, 2005, 04:12 PM
if you're sheeple who should you vote for!?! i need to know! ;)
:D Me, me, me, me, me, me!!!!!!!!!!! :D (and all the other shippers who are in the contest) :D

Uber
September 22nd, 2005, 04:13 PM
A Sam & Jack Photo Story by sg-1fanintn:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/321-CSkull1.jpg

JACK: Sam, Sam, Sam.....listen to our Shippers! They're thinking about us, talking about us,
writing new stories for us.....and you....tsk, tsk.....you were dissing our Ship.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/2ab.jpg

SAM: Uh.....Sir....I said I was sorry.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/sub.jpg

JACK: Ah! I already forgave you! But I think we should at least give them
something to work with!

Just sayin'.


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/3a.jpg

And they loved happily ever after.....

It's so not fair. I always try to green any post with the GRACE kiss...NAPOLEONIC POWERMONGERS...blocking me from greening you!!!

So instead what if I post something I haven't shown in a while???


http://www.powerpromoz.com/stargate/ingredientssm.gif


:cool:

Uber
September 22nd, 2005, 04:15 PM
:D I, for one, am glad you shamelessly pitched, as it saved me from doing so!(as I'm too lazy) :p
I'll add that you can reach the contest by clicking on my signature, and you can vote for whomever you wish to vote for (unless you're a sheeple!) :DWell if you click on my sigbanner, it will take you to my filler page for my new Amanda Tapping website...where I NOW have my video in a live STREAMING format!!!!

:D

sueKay
September 22nd, 2005, 04:16 PM
I'll admit that while I shamelessly pitch my sites endlessly (sorry :o)...ehm...i see the AT stuff everywhere and I don't think that plugging's necessary...I already vote as often as I can/remember (my memory's not all it could be...)

Now during the RDA and Teryl contests at AG...Didn't hear a peep from anyone, so if anyone takes part in either of those contests in the future...plug away, but the AT one's very well publicised.

Just saying...it's MO...nothing more :cool:

stargate barbie
September 22nd, 2005, 04:17 PM
okay, i'm adding to my scenarios i'd like to see in season 9.

landry say's, "okay sg1 you are dismissed, you've been going non stop for weeks, so your two weeks down time starts now". they all stand up, and as sam starts to move to the door, daniel says, " hey sam, what're you doing for your down time?". sam replies with a smile, "i'm goin' fishing", and continues out the door, leaving daniel and teal'c smiling and mitchell looking slightly confused, not understanding the implication.

sg-1fanintn
September 22nd, 2005, 04:21 PM
okay, i'm adding to my scenarios i'd like to see in season 9.

landry say's, "okay sg1 you are dismissed, you've been going non stop for weeks, so your two weeks down time starts now". they all stand up, and as sam starts to move to the door, daniel says, " hey sam, what're you doing for your down time?". sam replies with a smile, "i'm goin' fishing", and continues out the door, leaving daniel and teal'c smiling and mitchell looking slightly confused, not understanding the implication.
Now, stargatebarbie, that sounds extremely vague. Are you sure you're not Joe M. lurking here? Tee-hee!

I do like it, though. I just want something a little more obvious.

stargate barbie
September 22nd, 2005, 04:21 PM
It's so not fair. I always try to green any post with the GRACE kiss...NAPOLEONIC POWERMONGERS...blocking me from greening you!!!

So instead what if I post something I haven't shown in a while???


http://www.powerpromoz.com/stargate/ingredientssm.gif


:cool:
i've not seen that before, its brilliant! i'm okay with angst so long as it ends with "fishing" and when the angst looks that pretty and yummy and hot, ya really can't complain. can't green ya, but i appreciate it.

stargate barbie
September 22nd, 2005, 04:23 PM
Now, stargatebarbie, that sounds extremely vague. Are you sure you're not Joe M. lurking here? Tee-hee!

I do like it, though. I just want something a little more obvious.
c'mon! we all know what "fishing" means. and joes vagueness hasn't steered me too wrong yet, but maybe it's rubbing off on me.

dipsofjazz
September 22nd, 2005, 04:25 PM
I'll admit that while I shamelessly pitch my sites endlessly (sorry :o)...ehm...i see the AT stuff everywhere and I don't think that plugging's necessary...I already vote as often as I can/remember (my memory's not all it could be...)

Now during the RDA and Teryl contests at AG...Didn't hear a peep from anyone, so if anyone takes part in either of those contests in the future...plug away, but the AT one's very well publicised.

Just saying...it's MO...nothing more :cool:
Yes it's well publicised..because some people have it in their signatures. It doesn't mean that people will remember to go and vote though. The contest is also tied in to the Gabit event in October. This is a different type of con, as the only guest is Amanda. She'll get presented with the contest entries there.
Perhaps the reason we didn't hear a peep about the other contests is because no shippers were involved.

sg-1fanintn
September 22nd, 2005, 04:25 PM
It's so not fair. I always try to green any post with the GRACE kiss...NAPOLEONIC POWERMONGERS...blocking me from greening you!!!

So instead what if I post something I haven't shown in a while???


http://www.powerpromoz.com/stargate/ingredientssm.gif


:cool:

Ooohhh, an oldie, but a very good goodie! And our newbies should really be excited, because they've never seen it before!

And Über, I appreciate the reminders to vote. I've saved the contest in my favorite links now, so that makes it easier, but I had to be reminded a few times first!

minigeek
September 22nd, 2005, 04:27 PM
speaking of... any idea when the next part of "missing something" is going to be up?

I think it went up today, matter of fact! And I know she has the part after that written altready, she's editing it. :p

stargate barbie
September 22nd, 2005, 04:44 PM
I think it went up today, matter of fact! And I know she has the part after that written altready, she's editing it. :p
i'm not seeing it on ff.net

Gatetrixer
September 22nd, 2005, 05:02 PM
I think it went up today, matter of fact! And I know she has the part after that written altready, she's editing it. :p

Grrrreat, read the one just posted and eagerly awaiting the next. As a matter of curiosity, since her fiction appears on Fiction.net, why doesn't the latest part of "Missing Something" pop up when I check each day for new fic. Or is there some way to post fic without having it do that?

minigeek
September 22nd, 2005, 05:07 PM
Grrrreat, read the one just posted and eagerly awaiting the next. As a matter of curiosity, since her fiction appears on Fiction.net, why doesn't the latest part of "Missing Something" pop up when I check each day for new fic. Or is there some way to post fic without having it do that?

I have no idea. I don't know how any of that works. Maybe the database doesn't update as fast? I just go to her story and if I know there's a new chapter, I put the latest chapter number into the address bar on my browser. It usually works, even if I don't see it listed yet.

stargate barbie
September 22nd, 2005, 05:21 PM
k, found it and am reading it now. couldn't find it anywhere on ff.net. ff won't let me access its stargate pages without going from its base site, so i couldn't get to it through my history files, but for some reason known only to IE i can access posted links to ff, so i went back to find your original rec and link for the fic, and got it from that. whew! all this for a decent new fic.

Gatetrixer
September 22nd, 2005, 05:24 PM
Since we are talking a bit about Sam/Jack fic just now I wondered if anyone had any ideas about something they would like to see in a fic and also something they don't want to see. Not big themes, just little scenes.

For instance, I've read fic where Jack (a la Pete) surprises Sam with a ring. That 's fine, but I'd also like to read about them going to the jewelry store to pick rings out together, which is what we did. In fact, in my mind, they do this is Washington.

What I don't want to read about is Jack proposing during, or right after sex(multi- tasker Jack). Not that I don't like to read about the sex, but I'm reminded of the old story about the bride who was telling that she was so surprised about her proposal that she fell out of bed. And no it doesn't have to be a big set-up with him going down on his knees, can be completely out of the blue.

stargate barbie
September 22nd, 2005, 05:27 PM
i'd like to see a fic where she proposes to him.

sueKay
September 22nd, 2005, 05:37 PM
how about...

Sam and Jack have a day where EVERYTHING goes wrong...and then at the end of the day Sam proposes?

hmm...there's a fic in that somewhere...

Lynn
September 22nd, 2005, 06:38 PM
Grrrreat, read the one just posted and eagerly awaiting the next. As a matter of curiosity, since her fiction appears on Fiction.net, why doesn't the latest part of "Missing Something" pop up when I check each day for new fic. Or is there some way to post fic without having it do that?
Ok - the way fanfiction works, find the story that you want to know when a new chapter is added (in this case "Missing Something"). Go to any chapter and at the end where there is the drop down that says "Submit Review" drop it down and click on "Story Alert" and submit. FF.net will e-mail you everytime a new chapter of the story is posted which means you'll know often hours before they refresh their site and it hits the Stargate pages.

Hope this helps.

minigeek
September 22nd, 2005, 06:42 PM
okay, i'm adding to my scenarios i'd like to see in season 9.

landry say's, "okay sg1 you are dismissed, you've been going non stop for weeks, so your two weeks down time starts now". they all stand up, and as sam starts to move to the door, daniel says, " hey sam, what're you doing for your down time?". sam replies with a smile, "i'm goin' fishing", and continues out the door, leaving daniel and teal'c smiling and mitchell looking slightly confused, not understanding the implication.

Oh, oh! Got off the phone with Anni, she did this story! It's on ff.net. I think she's working on your other scene idea too stargate_barbie. Drive by link, I'm off to read.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2589874/1/

mini

minigeek
September 22nd, 2005, 07:10 PM
how about...

Sam and Jack have a day where EVERYTHING goes wrong...and then at the end of the day Sam proposes?

hmm...there's a fic in that somewhere...

sueKay, I love that idea! Want to take a stab at it? ;)

minigeek
September 22nd, 2005, 07:16 PM
c'mon! we all know what "fishing" means. and joes vagueness hasn't steered me too wrong yet, but maybe it's rubbing off on me.

Y'know, the great thing about the fishing reference, is that the "powers that be" have always indicated it meant exactly what we thought it meant. Even in the DVD commentaries, when they discuss "fishing" and laugh about it in terms of innuendo, it's clear what they mean. Fishing, for Sam and Jack definitely means - er - :p :p :p

That's why I loved that PDL quote Anni posted a while ago:
PDL: "If this had been this last episode that Richard or the show or whatever, that would have been their riding off into the sunset moment right there. He finally gets Carter to go fishing with him, which a lot of the fans have been waiting for for many many years."

LadyJeep
September 22nd, 2005, 07:18 PM
All right. We've been pretty bummed around here since word of the Dreamwatch article got around. In hopes of improving the spirits of the Ship Family, I present:


A Sam & Jack Story by SG-1fanintn:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/1a.jpg

Sam, what’s this I hear about you dissing OUR SHIP??????

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/2.jpg

Oh, uh, hi, Sir. Well, you were gone, and TPTB said……

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/2a.jpg

TPTB?!? For cryin’ out loud, Sam, how many times have I told you?
Never, ever listen to those guys! They’re just here to upset our Shippers!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/2b.jpg

Oh, gee, Jack—you’re right. I was weak. You know what people are
always saying about me…..

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/2c.jpg

Sam, you really know how to hurt a guy……

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/2d.jpg

If it makes a difference, Jack, they tied me up and gagged me
and threatened to give Vala all my lines if I didn’t cooperate…..

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/3.jpg

Well, since you put it that way, I’ll let you make it up to me.
There must be SOME WAY you can do that…..thinking now……
This is great and really brightened up my day :D

majorsal
September 22nd, 2005, 07:26 PM
spoilers for s9's fourth horseman


i rewatched fourth horseman last night, and...

it wasn't as bad as i first thought! :D

when it came to the part where landry asked her the friggin' private question, her answer lost some of it's punch. maybe because it was all in the PAST that this had happened (but who knows how it would have went if sean had been available...), but anyhoo... it wasn't as bad.

the second thing, the scene between orlin and sam in the commisary went a LOT better than i remembered! (i think i was still in shock from the 'intimate' crap and didn't let the essence of this scene come through). anyhoo, here's the dialog, and i'll give my thoughts through out.



orlin - my only regret in all this is that human social conventions preclude us from showing affection the way i wish i could. (notice he didn't say the way i wish WE could, but *i* could!)

sam - excuse me? (she totally didn't know what he was talking about!)

orlin - my feelings haven't changed for you since we last saw each other, sam. maybe in a few years...

sam - uh...

orlin - it's okay. we don't need to talk about it any further. i just wanted you to know that taking human form at this age, while necessary, didn't come easy, because of how i knew i would feel being here with you again.

(skip)

orlin - oh, right. i'm sorry, i'm used to hearing my own thoughts in my mind and sometimes it's hard to distinguish which ones i say out loud. did i tell you i still have feelings for you? (thank god he didn't say love!)

sam - yes, thank you. yeah. we don't need ot go into that again. (she was super uncomfortable here... prob because she didn't want other ppl overhearing this crazy/inappropriate convo. but still... )


end result is that sam did NOT act like they'd had a sexual relationship - by her reaction to orlin and by what orlin said to her! sam acted like she didn't know what he was talking about, totally!

it still ticks me off that they let that 'intimate' line be purposely ambiguous (notice how many times we've used this word in association with these writers?), but the scene between her and orlin gave the impression of NO sexual intimacy! :D



sally :D

Lexa Jayde
September 22nd, 2005, 07:31 PM
love the pix and captions... does anyone think that RDA will come back for a little resolution with Sam..????

Rogue
September 22nd, 2005, 08:18 PM
spoilers for s9's fourth horseman


i rewatched fourth horseman last night, and...

it wasn't as bad as i first thought! :D

when it came to the part where landry asked her the friggin' private question, her answer lost some of it's punch. maybe because it was all in the PAST that this had happened (but who knows how it would have went if sean had been available...), but anyhoo... it wasn't as bad.

the second thing, the scene between orlin and sam in the commisary went a LOT better than i remembered! (i think i was still in shock from the 'intimate' crap and didn't let the essence of this scene come through). anyhoo, here's the dialog, and i'll give my thoughts through out.



orlin - my only regret in all this is that human social conventions preclude us from showing affection the way i wish i could. (notice he didn't say the way i wish WE could, but *i* could!)

sam - excuse me? (she totally didn't know what he was talking about!)

orlin - my feelings haven't changed for you since we last saw each other, sam. maybe in a few years...

sam - uh...

orlin - it's okay. we don't need to talk about it any further. i just wanted you to know that taking human form at this age, while necessary, didn't come easy, because of how i knew i would feel being here with you again.

(skip)

orlin - oh, right. i'm sorry, i'm used to hearing my own thoughts in my mind and sometimes it's hard to distinguish which ones i say out loud. did i tell you i still have feelings for you? (thank god he didn't say love!)

sam - yes, thank you. yeah. we don't need ot go into that again. (she was super uncomfortable here... prob because she didn't want other ppl overhearing this crazy/inappropriate convo. but still... )


end result is that sam did NOT act like they'd had a sexual relationship - by her reaction to orlin and by what orlin said to her! sam acted like she didn't know what he was talking about, totally!

it still ticks me off that they let that 'intimate' line be purposely ambiguous (notice how many times we've used this word in association with these writers?), but the scene between her and orlin gave the impression of NO sexual intimacy! :D



sally :D

Sally, I agree with you. But it upset me as well that they pulled that intimate line. It seems to me they did it for comedy at the expense of the character. You could tell Sam was put in a awkward position when he asked that in front of Lam and Daniel. Then Lam got to do her little joke about being taller.

SuSiE_SG1
September 22nd, 2005, 08:27 PM
i'd like to see a fic where she proposes to him.

I kinda wrote a fic where she proposes to him, well he proposes first and then she proposes to him :)

majorsal
September 22nd, 2005, 09:09 PM
Sally, I agree with you. But it upset me as well that they pulled that intimate line. It seems to me they did it for comedy at the expense of the character. You could tell Sam was put in a awkward position when he asked that in front of Lam and Daniel. Then Lam got to do her little joke about being taller.

yes. :( :mad:

i think i obsessed on it so much (kept reading the text) that by the time i rewatched it, it lost some of it's power. but it still SUCKED to have that REWRITE of ascension take place. it was bad...



sally :)

trupi
September 22nd, 2005, 09:18 PM
yes. :( :mad:

i think i obsessed on it so much (kept reading the text) that by the time i rewatched it, it lost some of it's power. but it still SUCKED to have that REWRITE of ascension take place. it was bad...



sally :)
I think the whole scene was written badly and the kid wasn't very smooth with the lines. Maybe they should have picked an older kid, I just think he wasn't right for the part.

majorsal
September 22nd, 2005, 09:23 PM
I think the whole scene was written badly and the kid wasn't very smooth with the lines. Maybe they should have picked an older kid, I just think he wasn't right for the part.

the kid did fine, but sean patrick flannery did great. he's just more experienced, but i'm not saying the boy wasn't good. but sean gave orlin layers and depth...


BUT, what would have we seen if sean had been available? the writers scare me! they'd scare me since the seventh season, when things started going screwy. i wouldn't put it past them to actually have sam/orlin ship, even though sam's come to terms for her feelings for jack or *any* other guy to come her way. since they wrote that 'intimate' scene, i wouldn't be surprised so see other 'rewrites'... :( :(




sally :)

Cathain Nottingham
September 22nd, 2005, 10:22 PM
Now, stargatebarbie, that sounds extremely vague. Are you sure you're not Joe M. lurking here? Tee-hee!

I do like it, though. I just want something a little more obvious.

Okay that's it. I'm using that as the excuse for some of the teaser stuff that sometimes pops up on this thread! There is a spy amongst us...feeding us information...*looks around* :D

ST-1
September 22nd, 2005, 10:29 PM
((((((Family)))))) What's all this negativity floating around? We're supposed to be shipping away here, oblivious to TPTB's ineptitude AND to actors' body parts (except in the RDA thunk thread, naturally! :P )

To those who've already lifted the mood in here, bravo! And just to help us along a little more, I present
Truth or Dare (http://www.gateworld.net/fanfic/archive/41/truthor.html), a silly little fanfic that should send all of us back to our "happy place."

Enjoy! :)

scjon
September 23rd, 2005, 05:03 AM
((((((Family)))))) What's all this negativity floating around? We're supposed to be shipping away here, oblivious to TPTB's ineptitude AND to actors' body parts (except in the RDA thunk thread, naturally! :P )

To those who've already lifted the mood in here, bravo! And just to help us along a little more, I present
Truth or Dare (http://www.gateworld.net/fanfic/archive/41/truthor.html), a silly little fanfic that should send all of us back to our "happy place."

Enjoy! :)
Like it. A lot. Yes, I'm definitely in my happy place. Thank you!

nell
September 23rd, 2005, 05:31 AM
((((((Family)))))) What's all this negativity floating around? We're supposed to be shipping away here, oblivious to TPTB's ineptitude AND to actors' body parts (except in the RDA thunk thread, naturally! :P )

To those who've already lifted the mood in here, bravo! And just to help us along a little more, I present
Truth or Dare (http://www.gateworld.net/fanfic/archive/41/truthor.html), a silly little fanfic that should send all of us back to our "happy place."

Enjoy! :)

((((ST-1))))
Thanks for the sweet read!!! ;)

Billie
September 23rd, 2005, 06:06 AM
((((((Family)))))) What's all this negativity floating around? We're supposed to be shipping away here, oblivious to TPTB's ineptitude AND to actors' body parts (except in the RDA thunk thread, naturally! :P )

To those who've already lifted the mood in here, bravo! And just to help us along a little more, I present
Truth or Dare (http://www.gateworld.net/fanfic/archive/41/truthor.html), a silly little fanfic that should send all of us back to our "happy place."

Enjoy! :)


Thanks for that ST-1, you have indeed set me on the road back to our 'happy place'!! :p Anymore where that came from??

Billie
September 23rd, 2005, 06:13 AM
Just a quick question and I apologise if it's already been answered but I've been away for a while and haven't had a chance to catch up yet.

I had a quick look at the cast list for the S9 finale and saw no mention of RDA :( do we know if he's gonna be making any more S9 appearances apart from those at the beginning? *crosses all fingers and toes in the hope that the answer is YES!!*

:) :)

Billie
September 23rd, 2005, 07:43 AM
Thought I'd add a little shipper cheer too! :D


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/pcbillie/zerohour4.jpg
Sam and Jack together????

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/pcbillie/hands.jpg
What do you reckon?

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/pcbillie/jacksam16.jpg
We shippers deserve a little slice of heaven

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/pcbillie/zerohour2.jpg
And so with a optimistic heart and a huge honkin smile

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/pcbillie/fishing.jpg
I see Jack and Sam fishing for a long long while! :) :)
It's so gonna happen family, we've just gotta hang in there!! :p

(((Shipper Family)))

trupi
September 23rd, 2005, 08:41 AM
the kid did fine, but sean patrick flannery did great. he's just more experienced, but i'm not saying the boy wasn't good. but sean gave orlin layers and depth...


BUT, what would have we seen if sean had been available? the writers scare me! they'd scare me since the seventh season, when things started going screwy. i wouldn't put it past them to actually have sam/orlin ship, even though sam's come to terms for her feelings for jack or *any* other guy to come her way. since they wrote that 'intimate' scene, i wouldn't be surprised so see other 'rewrites'... :( :(




sally :)

Who knows which way they would have gone but they were smart to cast a child. It made me more comfortable with the scenes-there was no threat to the ship with a child involved. IMO

Hulabaloo
September 23rd, 2005, 08:43 AM
((((((Family)))))) What's all this negativity floating around? We're supposed to be shipping away here, oblivious to TPTB's ineptitude AND to actors' body parts (except in the RDA thunk thread, naturally! :P )

To those who've already lifted the mood in here, bravo! And just to help us along a little more, I present
Truth or Dare (http://www.gateworld.net/fanfic/archive/41/truthor.html), a silly little fanfic that should send all of us back to our "happy place."

Enjoy! :)


Loved it!

ST-1
September 23rd, 2005, 10:33 AM
((((((((((BILLIE)))))))))) I love pic stories, and this one is fab! Thank you! :)


Thanks for that ST-1, you have indeed set me on the road back to our 'happy place'!! :p Anymore where that came from??

Hmmm...Maybe! Gotta think some more on what the team does while "off duty." I really wish TPTB allowed more of that. The D&C bar scene, the "Fire & Water" wake scene, and yes, even the "everyday Teal'c" scenes in A$$inity are great, IMO, because they show what these people are like in their daily lives. It's great to have these little kernels of knowledge: Jack's kitchen is yellow, Sam never gets messages on her answering machine, Daniel has a fish tank, and Teal'c can throw a can and knock someone out a la Crocodile Dundee. We need MORE of that! Even now in S9, as crappy as it's been, my interest would certainly be piqued if I got a glimpse inside Mitchell's apartment/house/whatever, if I could see Landry playin' some hoops, or even if they told us their favorite colors! IMO, the S9 plotlines have been too big and heady to allow for any of that, and the result is a bunch of wooden, two-dimensional characters. Even the ones we thought we knew (Sam, Daniel) have become enigmas. What are they doing with the rest of their lives? Where the heck is Cassie? And the real burning question: What is the status of Sam and Jack's relationship? WHY, pray tell, can't we know these things? Would it cause physical pain for TPTB to give us a little more inside knowledge on the characters? FCOL, they've yet to reveal on-screen where Jack went and why...and only last week did they bother to tell us Lam is Landry's daughter!

Obviously I don't expect to be told EVERYTHING about the characters up-front, but a little insight would be nice. If we're supposed to like this SG-1 the way we liked the old/REAL SG-1, then the writers have to give us the opportunity to get to know the new characters and "catch up" with the old ones. Otherwise, they may as well replace the actors with cardboard cut-outs (or, better yet, Equinox's clay figures!) and trim down the budget a bit! :P

Wow...that turned into a big honkin' S9 rant! Sorry y'all...guess I needed to get it out of my system. Going back to my happy place now! Sam & Jack FOREVER! :D :D :D :D :D

Silver
September 23rd, 2005, 11:15 AM
Just a quick question and I apologise if it's already been answered but I've been away for a while and haven't had a chance to catch up yet.

I had a quick look at the cast list for the S9 finale and saw no mention of RDA :( do we know if he's gonna be making any more S9 appearances apart from those at the beginning? *crosses all fingers and toes in the hope that the answer is YES!!*



Joe answered this question a couple of weeks ago in his thread and stated that RDA would be making no more appearances "this year". Whether this means for the entirety of S9, for the actual filming or just for the first half of the season, I don't know. But I think we will all be mightily devastated if he isn't. :(

Lya
September 23rd, 2005, 02:04 PM
@silver

oh yes i hope of this "this year" ... i hope that RDA in the next year is back and than we see a wedding with jack and sam :D

@ billy

wow that are soooo nice pics^^

Hulabaloo
September 23rd, 2005, 02:44 PM
Those pictures, the 'holding hands' one, the second one. What ep is that?

Oma-1
September 23rd, 2005, 02:58 PM
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_29_18.gif

Hey Shipper Family!! I've missed this place! No more going AWOL for a long time I hope :S I had to make the extra effort today after my son put on Urgo yesterday. Reminded me how much I love Sam & Jack and missed my happy place. :)

Important things first.

Nell have you heard from Carolina? Is she OK????

Now on with the ship :D

After skimming the best part of 40 pages this morning....
Great Vid Caty!
Loved the pic fic TN!
In answer to Gatetrixer's question - yes you can nourish (loved the way you phrased that :p ), with no problems. Saw a documentary a coupla months ago so if you want all the gorey details I can PM ya! Just let me know.
And finally, ST-1, loved the little fic! :D
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/new/8_22/36_1_75.gif

The scene that sums Sam & Jack up for me is Lost City 2, the little exchange over the crystals. Sorry I can't remember who posted the question or that particular answer (it's all a bit of a blurr :o ) - but they hit the nail on the head. Love, sacrifice, dedication to duty ... I could go on.

However, I think I'm probably in the minority who see it as a good thing that the kiss was cut from that scene. *please don't throw anything at me yet* I just can't see it tying in with the professionalism that they have both shown over the years. I know the regs technically didn't count cos Jack was not Sam's CO having retired and passed command to her, but they were still in the middle of a planet-saving mission, and then just wasn't the time. I really can't see the ep playing out the ship any way other than it did. I understand that lots of shippers see that as a missed opportunity, but I'm afraid I'm not one of them. Just love the angst too much I guess :p

The scenario for Sam & Jack in Threads was much more realistic - all threats from the Goa'uld and Replicators had been wiped out, the galaxy was at peace so there were going to be no interruptions. I like to think that the optimum time was on the pier during their fishing trip (in that day before T & Daniel showed up naturally ;) ). They were able to be themselves without the pressures of imminent destruction to force the issue and would be a much more natural expression of their real feelings for each other. :D JMHO :D

All that said, I'm still miffed that :eek: turned up again after Lost City. He should have been toast at that point - I was already stretching belief beyond the boundaries that Sam hadn't canned Pete at the end of Chimera for that stupid stunt he pulled tailing her and busting in on an operation. Then that Lost City didn't show Sam what her true feelings were is completely beyond me. It was another D&C moment where everything was revealed for a few moments and acknowledged on both sides. For me, that's where tptb completely messed up. If I discount any mention of :eek: and Affinity, S8 was great!

As for the current situation, no regs, Sam EDM "not exactly" single http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/new/8_22/23_11_60.gif - even if we are gonna have to wait. :D

:o sorry - didn't mean to go on so long! Blame it on ship withdrawal :o

stargate barbie
September 23rd, 2005, 03:06 PM
Those pictures, the 'holding hands' one, the second one. What ep is that?
its from moebius. and shame on you for not knowing purely on instinct if nothing else! :mad:
;)

dipsofjazz
September 23rd, 2005, 03:16 PM
its from moebius. and shame on you for not knowing purely on instinct if nothing else! :mad:
;)
:D I'm sure this is mentioned in the 'Shippers Handbook', along with all our other 'moments'. :D :p :D

florence
September 23rd, 2005, 03:25 PM
Some news from LOL4JACK (I'm chatting with her right now on MSN) :

"I'll be moving towards France to wait for news from there.... and it seems I can get an earlier appointment at the embassy.... Of course, lots of love and thanks for the messages, I've been trying to answer and keep up with them.... I'll be in DSL next week, so I'll be able to join more :D "

sueKay
September 23rd, 2005, 03:40 PM
Florence - tell her I'm sorry I've not been able to email her.

florence
September 23rd, 2005, 03:45 PM
Florence - tell her I'm sorry I've not been able to email her.
Okay, message sent :)

sueKay
September 23rd, 2005, 03:48 PM
Thankies...posting your postcard tommorrow...RL's been hectic

Anywho...I'm gonna watch an ep before I head to bed to cheer myself up, but I don't wanna watch 'the usual episodes'ie. WoO and such...

so any good, but not so 'popular' eps you can suggest from seasons 1 - 7?

walterIsTheMan
September 23rd, 2005, 03:51 PM
theyre probably not gonna get together now cause we posted on page 666 :S

sueKay
September 23rd, 2005, 04:00 PM
Really? We didn't all post on page 666 because I've got a different post-per-page thingy and I'm on page 267 :D

See? They must be together...we circumvented the Devil :D

florence
September 23rd, 2005, 04:10 PM
Really? We didn't all post on page 666 because I've got a different post-per-page thingy and I'm on page 267 :D

See? They must be together...we circumvented the Devil :D
As for me, I'm on page 333 ! :p

Anyway, we already know they ARE together ! :D

sueKay, what about Paradise Lost ? Angsty Sam scene, Jack thunking... Sounds good to me ! :D

As for me, I'm off to bed. Night everyone ! :)

sueKay
September 23rd, 2005, 04:16 PM
watched it last week unfortunately :(

Ah well...I'll think of something...maybe a good old funny ep...

hmm...haven't watched Urgo in a while...

nell
September 23rd, 2005, 04:23 PM
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_29_18.gif

Important things first.

Nell have you heard from Carolina? Is she OK????



I received this message from Carolina today!!!!



Thanks... I have more news today, I'll try to get a Visa in France now... so
I'll be going back to the south of France on Sunday and wait there for the
appointment in the embassy....

I'm much better regarding my situation, but still thinking how to work out
the mess at home :)

Thanks for all the love,

Carolina

minigeek
September 23rd, 2005, 04:48 PM
Hey, I stumbled across this old interview transcript from a chatroom session with Amanda a couple of months before the beginning of principle photography on season eight.

I thought, given recent heartache here, it'd be nice to read for some of ya. Amanda is a lot more like herself in this transcript. Likely because she isn't paraphrased by a reporter! ;)

Here is the link to the entire transcript:
http://www.theamandatappingclub.net/archive/chat2004.html

And here are a couple of the parts I thought worth highlighting from a shipper POV. :D

Someone else was doing her typing for her:

Question about those infamouse wedding photos:
uhm, taking the wedding pictures was hilarious, Rick who it seems is a confirmed bachelor., suddenly got nervous about it so we acted completely goofy and that went into it. I don't know what happened to the pictures actually but there were a lot taken. Most of the pictures were silly though

Question about what she thinks SAM would want to do before the show goes off the air:
oh my god, yes! a million things!! scientifically discover something that has life altering affects. it sort of sounds egomaniacal, but for her to come up with the ultimate discovery that would change the world. I'd like to see her find true happiness and I really want her to go fishing with Jack

Question about whether Rick is a good kisser:
Rick is an excellent kisser! ... kissing Rick is definitely a perk ... heck, hanging out with Rick everyday is a perk

Question about possible Sam/Daniel <evil grin>:
don't think there's any chance of Sam/Daniel exploration. They’re too good friends and they're too much like brother and sister. There's a picture from Resurrection files and Sam and Daniel kissing but it's Just Michael and Amanda fooling around on set

Sam & Jack?!?!?!
Stay tuned for the future of Sam and Jack. I'm not sure what's going to happen.

All old news, of course, but nice to read. I think so, at least.

Cheers!

parsifal
September 23rd, 2005, 05:18 PM
Hey, I stumbled across this old interview transcript from a chatroom session with Amanda a couple of months before the beginning of principle photography on season eight.

<snip>



Maybe Replicarter's actually been giving the last few interviews with Amanda.

trupi
September 23rd, 2005, 05:30 PM
Maybe Replicarter's actually been giving the last few interviews with Amanda.
Excellant!

nell
September 23rd, 2005, 05:37 PM
Here's another excerpt from Amanda's January 2004 online interview:


Interviewer: The next question: <CINDYM79> Hi! My friend and I gave you a bracelet at the French convention, hope you like it! (perhaps it was the one you were wearing in Reunion Island?). My question is : Is it deliberate that every time Sam is wearing leather, Jack is never around ?

Amanda: Yeah I think Jack seeing Sam in leather would drive him too wild!!!

trupi
September 23rd, 2005, 08:07 PM
I'll be so happy when January comes and they get rid of that shorten theme songs for both shows. They make me sick!

Gatetrixer
September 23rd, 2005, 08:32 PM
Hey, I stumbled across this old interview transcript from a chatroom session with Amanda a couple of months before the beginning of principle photography on season eight.

I thought, given recent heartache here, it'd be nice to read for some of ya. Amanda is a lot more like herself in this transcript. Likely because she isn't paraphrased by a reporter! ;)

Here is the link to the entire transcript:
http://www.theamandatappingclub.net/archive/chat2004.html

And here are a couple of the parts I thought worth highlighting from a shipper POV. :D

Someone else was doing her typing for her:

Question about those infamouse wedding photos:

Question about what she thinks SAM would want to do before the show goes off the air:

Question about whether Rick is a good kisser:

Question about possible Sam/Daniel <evil grin>:

Sam & Jack?!?!?!

All old news, of course, but nice to read. I think so, at least.

Cheers!

Well, that was fun and interesting. Liked what she said about fishing. She said RDA was a good kisser, and J.R. Bourne was a good kisser, and in another interview or maybe a chat like this she had said DDL was a good kisser. If someone asks an actress if an actor is a good kisser she can hardly say anything else, I guess. But I like to think RDA is the really, really good one.

nell
September 23rd, 2005, 09:33 PM
Well, that was fun and interesting. Liked what she said about fishing. She said RDA was a good kisser, and J.R. Bourne was a good kisser, and in another interview or maybe a chat like this she had said DDL was a good kisser. If someone asks an actress if an actor is a good kisser she can hardly say anything else, I guess. But I like to think RDA is the really, really good one.

Let's see. Is RDA a really, really good kisser????

Exhibit A. Take a look at his lips!!!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y209/cilljill/PDVD_0471.jpg

Exhibit B. See those lips in action!!!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y209/cilljill/7x13_84.jpg

Exhibit C. See Sam's grin!!!!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y209/cilljill/Sam.jpg

SuSiE_SG1
September 23rd, 2005, 11:52 PM
i think all that evidence will hold up in court LOL :)

Sheena
September 24th, 2005, 03:05 AM
:D I'm sure this is mentioned in the 'Shippers Handbook', along with all our other 'moments'. :D :p :D

Shippers handbook?? There's a shippers handbook??? Where where!!!

And about the Moebius hand touching thing - I've seen it 3 times now and I always seem to miss it! There are some truely dedicated shippers out there watching things in slow motion cos it happens so fast!

wynter
September 24th, 2005, 04:27 AM
hiya guya wynter here,i am om my sisters pc as mine gave up couple of weeks ago but having new one next week at long last i feel cheated that i have missed you lot.I haven't a clue whats happening so please bear with me while i look at the posts.I hope everyone is ok and that sam and jack are still going strong here.


wynterxx

Billie
September 24th, 2005, 04:53 AM
I am definitely of the opinion that RDA is a fantastic kisser! Lucky lucky AT! :p

Found these behind the scenes pics which show that he also has very fine legs!!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/pcbillie/rdalegs2.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/pcbillie/rdalegs.jpg

Once again, lucky lucky AT!! :p

nell
September 24th, 2005, 05:36 AM
I am definitely of the opinion that RDA is a fantastic kisser! Lucky lucky AT! :p

Found these behind the scenes pics which show that he also has very fine legs!!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/pcbillie/rdalegs2.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/pcbillie/rdalegs.jpg

Once again, lucky lucky AT!! :p

((((BILLIE))))
Thunks alot!!!! :p :D :p ;) :rolleyes: :p

Billie
September 24th, 2005, 08:44 AM
Love the sig nell!! :D You have inspired me to go create something new! See you guys in a while! :) *heads off to delve into vast library of pics*

Billie
September 24th, 2005, 09:22 AM
Not feeling overly creative at the moment so while I wait for the creative bug to bite thought I'd use one of my previous pic stories as a sig instead! :)

nell
September 24th, 2005, 09:30 AM
Not feeling overly creative at the moment so while I wait for the creative bug to bite thought I'd use one of my previous pic stories as a sig instead! :)

((((Billie)))) Love your sig, too!! Fluffy, sappy, shippy!!!! :p :p :p ;)

CONGRATS ON 400 POSTS!!!

Billie
September 24th, 2005, 09:37 AM
Thanks nell! Yay 400!!

Was wondering if the sig is a little too fluffy and shippy for use on other threads, what do you reckon? The other one I have at the mo that I could use is this one -

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/pcbillie/minimesig.jpg

Any thoughts?

nell
September 24th, 2005, 09:49 AM
Thanks nell! Yay 400!!

Was wondering if the sig is a little too fluffy and shippy for use on other threads, what do you reckon? The other one I have at the mo that I could use is this one -

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/pcbillie/minimesig.jpg

Any thoughts?

Billie, The second one is cute and funny!!! But, right here and right now, my vote is for the sleepy let's-make-a-date @ your-place-or-mine phone conversation!!!! Up to you, my dear!!! ;)

Billie
September 24th, 2005, 10:05 AM
(((nell))) Thanks hun for making the decision I'm just so indecisive at the mo!! :)

And in return for your good taste here's a treat for you!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/pcbillie/rda7.jpg

I'm sure the rest of the shipper family won't mind a bit of thunking!! :p

nell
September 24th, 2005, 10:12 AM
(((nell))) Thanks hun for making the decision I'm just so indecisive at the mo!! :)

And in return for your good taste here's a treat for you!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/pcbillie/rda7.jpg

I'm sure the rest of the shipper family won't mind a bit of thunking!! :p

Thunks!!! Sam and Jack Forever!!! ;)

sueKay
September 24th, 2005, 10:13 AM
Heya!

I'm in a better mood now, and I need your good luck wishes for something...

I HAVE A DATE!!!!

*is terrified and ecstatic at the same time*

sooo???? any help/advice????

I have a really good S/J fic idea, so I may put it online tonight :D

Billie
September 24th, 2005, 10:18 AM
Heya!

I'm in a better mood now, and I need your good luck wishes for something...

I HAVE A DATE!!!!

*is terrified and ecstatic at the same time*

sooo???? any help/advice????

I have a really good S/J fic idea, so I may put it online tonight :D

(((sueKay))) a date! You go girl!! Oh how I wish for that nervous stomach tingling feeling that comes with the whole first date thing!!

The only advice I have is - just be yourself and if it's right it'll happen!!

Good luck and you do realise that feedback is required!! ;) :p

sueKay
September 24th, 2005, 10:25 AM
(((billie)))

Thank you :D I'll try and give you feedback if it goes well...

My stomache's already a bit off...We've been friends for months, so it'll be really strange...but he's a really nice guy - professional figure skater and ice dancer, as well as a model...*sigh*

nell
September 24th, 2005, 10:29 AM
Heya!

I'm in a better mood now, and I need your good luck wishes for something...

I HAVE A DATE!!!!

*is terrified and ecstatic at the same time*

sooo???? any help/advice????

I have a really good S/J fic idea, so I may put it online tonight :D

Well, it's been about 28 years since I've had a date (married for 26) but it really is much the same now!! Do a little something special- perfume, earrings, or a favorite outfit- for the outside of you. For the inside of you, BE YOURSELF!!! Showing an interest in someone is a genuine way to start a conversation. REMEMBER, he will be terrified and ecstatic, too!!! It's called anxiety. It's OK in moderation!!! Enjoy!!

Back OT. Yeah, the fic idea. Look forward to it. ;)

Billie
September 24th, 2005, 10:38 AM
I wonder how Jack and Sam would feel before their first official date?? I know they have known eachother for a long time but a date is different!!

Oh how I would LOVE to see that!! :p

ST-1
September 24th, 2005, 11:31 AM
Hmm thought of another song to add to the Sam and Jack shippy CD if anyone is still interested LOL

Oooh, I've got one too! "Then You Look At Me" by Celine Dion, a lesser-known song I discovered on her "All The Way" CD. Check out the lyrics, then tell me if this is not SO Sam & Jack; after all, they are always LOOKING at each other, saying with their eyes what can't be spoken aloud. :o

Laugh and cry, live and die
Life is a dream, we are dreaming
Day by day, I find my way
Look for the soul and the meaning

Then you look at me
And I always see
What I have been searching for
I'm lost as can be,
Then you look at me,
And I am not lost anymore

People run, sun to sun,
Caught in their lives' ever flowing
Once begun, life goes, till it's gone
We have to go where it's going

Then you look at me
And I always see
What I have been searching for
I'm lost as can be,
Then you look at me,
And I am not lost anymore

And you say you see
When you look at me
The reason you love life so
Though lost I have been
I find love again
And life just keeps on running
And life just keeps on running
You look at me and life comes from you

sueKay
September 24th, 2005, 11:44 AM
sueKay presents...

Anything that can go wrong... (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2591891/1/)

Domestic S/J humour

and as for first date nerves...read Not Really (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2556300/1/)

And the rest of my fics...

http://www.fanfiction.net/~suekay04

Reviews most welcome :D

Oma-1
September 24th, 2005, 12:14 PM
I am definitely of the opinion that RDA is a fantastic kisser! Lucky lucky AT! :p

Found these behind the scenes pics which show that he also has very fine legs!!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/pcbillie/rdalegs2.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/pcbillie/rdalegs.jpg

Once again, lucky lucky AT!! :p

So, not commando then. Shucks :(

Gatetrixer
September 24th, 2005, 12:19 PM
I am definitely of the opinion that RDA is a fantastic kisser! Lucky lucky AT! :p

Found these behind the scenes pics which show that he also has very fine legs!!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/pcbillie/rdalegs2.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/pcbillie/rdalegs.jpg

Once again, lucky lucky AT!! :p


He was showing his knee operation, I've read.

Wait a minute! Did I say that AT said that J.R.B. was good kisser? When did Martouf ever kiss Sam? Did I read that chat right?

Oma-1
September 24th, 2005, 12:23 PM
Heya!

I'm in a better mood now, and I need your good luck wishes for something...

I HAVE A DATE!!!!

*is terrified and ecstatic at the same time*

sooo???? any help/advice????

I have a really good S/J fic idea, so I may put it online tonight :D
Advice? Yeah. Don't make him wait 9 years for the BHK :p

Seriously? Be yourself and have a blast. The nervous energy is all part of the fun. Your stomach should settle by about the 10th date ;)

But for all my great advice for you, anyone got any for a mum who feels like her eldest daughter is out on her first date?#!? :S

sueKay
September 24th, 2005, 12:50 PM
((((Shipper family))))

I just wanna hug you all!!!!!!!!!!!

We really do need to plan a Ship Family get together that's easy and cheap for most to get to. Maybe one in the US and one in the UK.

smea
September 24th, 2005, 12:59 PM
Oh my... I go away for a week [[to Brussels -- working in the EU for a week ;) ]]
I come back here and theres all this... :eek:
I couldnt read it all lol... too tired. Have there been any major spoilers/things???



Heya!

I'm in a better mood now, and I need your good luck wishes for something...

I HAVE A DATE!!!!

*is terrified and ecstatic at the same time*

sooo???? any help/advice????

I have a really good S/J fic idea, so I may put it online tonight :D

Oh good luck!! It'll be awesome, really... find out if your date likes SG!!

sueKay
September 24th, 2005, 01:02 PM
Smea - He quit watching a few years ago...he says that the show's not worth watching now...but he finds my fanaticism of it quite funny...

I just remind him of his Buffy fanaticism and he soon shuts up :D

smea
September 24th, 2005, 01:34 PM
Smea - He quit watching a few years ago...he says that the show's not worth watching now...but he finds my fanaticism of it quite funny...

I just remind him of his Buffy fanaticism and he soon shuts up :D

LOL.. i used to be OBSESSED by Buffy.... but how can he say its not worth watching :S [[Tell us a little about him :D :D :D]]


Oh yeah... and does anyone know for SURE when S9 starts over here in UK.. and what time it'll be on etc..

nell
September 24th, 2005, 01:39 PM
SSP!!! Shameless Self Promotion!!!

I spiffed up my little Sam and Jack story first posted on GW. It is now on FanFiction.net. What Say We Head Home?

Um, here's the link http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2591991/1/

dipsofjazz
September 24th, 2005, 01:42 PM
Oh yeah... and does anyone know for SURE when S9 starts over here in UK.. and what time it'll be on etc..
:D There's a thread in the general section of the forum called The UK Schedule, where you can find all the info about episodes etc. You can find it here. (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=2842) You'll see that we get Avalon Part 1 (Tuesday 18th October 2005), and Siege Part 3 (Wednesday 19th October 2005).

smea
September 24th, 2005, 01:45 PM
:D There's a thread in the general section of the forum called The UK Schedule, where you can find all the info about episodes etc. You can find it here. (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=2842) You'll see that we get Avalon Part 1 (Tuesday 18th October 2005), and Siege Part 3 (Wednesday 19th October 2005).

Thanx a lot! :D

gwenhwyfar
September 24th, 2005, 05:15 PM
Hi shipper family. I just thought I'd poke my head in and see what's going on here. I've been at the Sheppard/Weir shipper thread. They're my newest obsession.

Welcome to all the new people!

To stay on topic... Sam and Jack together by Season 10!

Uber
September 24th, 2005, 06:06 PM
JM posted on his blog.....


WARNING SPOILERS AHEAD....




=========================

Scrolling through the responses to my blog, I've noticed that the same comments keep coming up. In the interest of putting people's concerns to rest (or, in some cases, enraging people even further), I've decided to take the time to answer some of the more, uh, controversial questions -

1. Why isn't Carter leading SG-1? Why has the character been demoted?

We had a number of challenges facing us with the start of season 9. One was the introduction of a new team member: Cameron Mitchell. The other was Amanda's pregnancy which would keep her out of the show for the first six episodes of the season. Rather than going the "new guy joins the team" route, Robert opted for something a little different. We had finally wrapped up 8 seasons worth of loose ends, so it was natural that our characters would be moving on. Simply put, their main mission accomplished, the individual members of SG-1 were finally free to pursue areas of personal interest. In Teal'c's case, that meant helping the free Jaffa. In Daniel's case, it meant finally going to Atlantis. And, in Carter's case, it meant helping Cassie through a rough time, and focusing on the Research and Development of the technology we had acquired over the years. So, when Mitchell came aboard, there was no SG-1. He was given command of a team that he would have to rebuild. Ideally, he wanted to "get the band back together" - and that meant Daniel, Teal'c, and Carter. So who is leading the team? They both are. The two have reached a mutual understanding whereby they can alternate command on various ops. "Impossible!"some will undoubtedly howl. That goes against regs! Maybe. And it goes against regs to have two Colonel's on the same team. But rather than giving Carter command of SG-22 (and following her adventures in another spin-off series), we thought this would be a nice compromise.

2. Why does Mitchell call Daniel by his last name?

Its not unlike Teal'c referring to Jack by his last name, O'Neill, through the show's first eight seasons. It simply goes to character, in this case Mitchell's military tact. It doesn't mean he thinks any less of Daniel, just as it didn't mean Teal'c thought any less of O'Neill.

3. Why aren't you bringing O'Neill back?

After eight great years on the show, Richard Dean Anderson decided it was time to call it a day. By all accounts, he is enjoying a well-earned retirement from the world of Stargate.

4. Are Sam and Jack going to get together? Are they together?

The only way to do this properly would be to have O'Neill back on the show - and that is unlikely to happen. So, does that mean there's no hope? Nope, not necessarily. Never say never. But I will say that its not a storyline we're looking to pursue anytime in the near future (as we have other more pressing stories to tell). Then what about the scene in Ex Deus Machina? When Carter replied "Its complicated", was she referring to Jack? Yeah. She probably was.

5. Why aren't you bringing back Jonas?

Again, never say never. If the right story comes along, there's no reason why we won't revisit the character. But for those wondering why we're not bringing Jonas back as a full team member, it all comes down to $$$. Ideally, if everyone worked for free, we could have ten members on SG-1 with George Clooney as the new team leader. But sadly (for the studio), we have to pay the actors a salary, and we only have a set amount in our budget from which to pay them.

6. Do you or any of the writers on the show read fan fiction? What do you think of Stargate Platypus?

Nope. And I have no opinion on Stargate Platypus or any other like fan fiction project.

=========================

So basically....it's exactly what we thought. The Not Exactly was for us. Secondly, without RDA, there can be no real ship (we all knew that). Thirdly, it's not a front burner storyline (we all knew that too). And fourthly...I'll go with Amanda here...the future's wide open.

I imagine there will be a scene here and there in Season 10...but alas...Jack is not going to be making any more appearances on our tvs any time soon.

:)

SG1Poz
September 24th, 2005, 06:15 PM
JM posted on his blog.....


WARNING SPOILERS AHEAD....




=========================

Scrolling through the responses to my blog, I've noticed that the same comments keep coming up. In the interest of putting people's concerns to rest (or, in some cases, enraging people even further), I've decided to take the time to answer some of the more, uh, controversial questions -

1. Why isn't Carter leading SG-1? Why has the character been demoted?

We had a number of challenges facing us with the start of season 9. One was the introduction of a new team member: Cameron Mitchell. The other was Amanda's pregnancy which would keep her out of the show for the first six episodes of the season. Rather than going the "new guy joins the team" route, Robert opted for something a little different. We had finally wrapped up 8 seasons worth of loose ends, so it was natural that our characters would be moving on. Simply put, their main mission accomplished, the individual members of SG-1 were finally free to pursue areas of personal interest. In Teal'c's case, that meant helping the free Jaffa. In Daniel's case, it meant finally going to Atlantis. And, in Carter's case, it meant helping Cassie through a rough time, and focusing on the Research and Development of the technology we had acquired over the years. So, when Mitchell came aboard, there was no SG-1. He was given command of a team that he would have to rebuild. Ideally, he wanted to "get the band back together" - and that meant Daniel, Teal'c, and Carter. So who is leading the team? They both are. The two have reached a mutual understanding whereby they can alternate command on various ops. "Impossible!"some will undoubtedly howl. That goes against regs! Maybe. And it goes against regs to have two Colonel's on the same team. But rather than giving Carter command of SG-22 (and following her adventures in another spin-off series), we thought this would be a nice compromise.

2. Why does Mitchell call Daniel by his last name?

Its not unlike Teal'c referring to Jack by his last name, O'Neill, through the show's first eight seasons. It simply goes to character, in this case Mitchell's military tact. It doesn't mean he thinks any less of Daniel, just as it didn't mean Teal'c thought any less of O'Neill.

3. Why aren't you bringing O'Neill back?

After eight great years on the show, Richard Dean Anderson decided it was time to call it a day. By all accounts, he is enjoying a well-earned retirement from the world of Stargate.

4. Are Sam and Jack going to get together? Are they together?

The only way to do this properly would be to have O'Neill back on the show - and that is unlikely to happen. So, does that mean there's no hope? Nope, not necessarily. Never say never. But I will say that its not a storyline we're looking to pursue anytime in the near future (as we have other more pressing stories to tell). Then what about the scene in Ex Deus Machina? When Carter replied "Its complicated", was she referring to Jack? Yeah. She probably was.

5. Why aren't you bringing back Jonas?

Again, never say never. If the right story comes along, there's no reason why we won't revisit the character. But for those wondering why we're not bringing Jonas back as a full team member, it all comes down to $$$. Ideally, if everyone worked for free, we could have ten members on SG-1 with George Clooney as the new team leader. But sadly (for the studio), we have to pay the actors a salary, and we only have a set amount in our budget from which to pay them.

6. Do you or any of the writers on the show read fan fiction? What do you think of Stargate Platypus?

Nope. And I have no opinion on Stargate Platypus or any other like fan fiction project.

=========================

So basically....it's exactly what we thought. The Not Exactly was for us. Secondly, without RDA, there can be no real ship (we all knew that). Thirdly, it's not a front burner storyline (we all knew that too). And fourthly...I'll go with Amanda here...the future's wide open.

I imagine there will be a scene here and there in Season 10...but alas...Jack is not going to be making any more appearances on our tvs any time soon.

:)

But we don't have to see him. Just a mention of his name here and there and maybe catching a quick glimpse of Sam on the phone saying," I can't wait until my next leave, I miss you Jack!" That would be enough to hold me over until Rda is in an episode.

Poz

nell
September 24th, 2005, 06:23 PM
JM posted on his blog.....


WARNING SPOILERS AHEAD....

=========================

:)


I am stunned. For the life of me, I shouldn't be. I want to be angry at Joe M but oddly I'm not. He has, after all, answered The Big, Honkin' Question. Will there be Sam and Jack Ship? No, RDA is retired from the show. Never say never??? Sure, OK!

I'll check in later. Gotta process this!!

P.S. Thanks, Uber, I haven't been reading his blog.

SG1Poz
September 24th, 2005, 06:37 PM
I am stunned. For the life of me, I shouldn't be. I want to be angry at Joe M but oddly I'm not. He has, after all, answered The Big, Honkin' Question. Will there be Sam and Jack Ship? No, RDA is retired from the show. Never say never??? Sure, OK!

I'll check in later. Gotta process this!!

P.S. Thanks, Uber, I haven't been reading his blog.

Oh you know they/he wouldn't come out and say absolutely never again or they'd lose mucho grande fans which would than of course kill the show for good. So again we get a lolly pop and are told to take a seat and wait it out. Did I mention again? :(

Poz

majorsal
September 24th, 2005, 07:21 PM
Oh you know they/he wouldn't come out and say absolutely never again or they'd lose mucho grande fans which would than of course kill the show for good. So again we get a lolly pop and are told to take a seat and wait it out. Did I mention again? :(

Poz

my response...

:(

i basically knew this stuff, but i'd still like to see them 'hint' at things, like they did with 'not exactly'. and what's with joe saying that sam said 'it's complicated' in ex deus machina?

i still have hope, but with my lack of excitement with this 'new and improved! show... i hope i can stick around long enough to *see* them coming together! :rolleyes:


sally (looks for smiley face to fit mood....... keeps looking)

nell
September 24th, 2005, 07:38 PM
my response...

:(

i basically knew this stuff, but i'd still like to see them 'hint' at things, like they did with 'not exactly'. and what's with joe saying that sam said 'it's complicated' in ex deus machina?

i still have hope, but with my lack of excitement with this 'new and improved! show... i hope i can stick around long enough to *see* them coming together! :rolleyes:


sally (looks for smiley face to fit mood....... keeps looking)

I had no recollection about Sam's line in ExDM it's complicated

Yes, if there could be clear references to a relationship between Sam and Jack, I could accept that. Well, either accept or bitterly turn off the show. Not gonna happen.

So, the Ship could be kept afloat through phone calls. Emails. Daniel teasing her or asking her about Jack. A picture of Jack in the background in her lab. Sam leaving the base for an extended downtime with plans to meet Jack at the cabin. There are soooo many ways to keep the Ship going. The Virtual Ship as it were. Obviously, for those of you who read my posts, I gnaw happily on any little bones!!!

Believe me, I am a little saddened by this outcome, too. I really, really, really wanted a face-to-face acknowledgement of Sam's and Jack's feelings and beginning a relationship.

Later, nell ;)

trupi
September 24th, 2005, 08:00 PM
Why do people bother to read JM comments. Let him say whatever-he's god! But now I know why ratings are dropping. Keep playing games JM-have fun. Now I know why I haven't bought 9th season dvd set yet and probably won't! But anything is possible! Unemployment!

Uber
September 24th, 2005, 08:15 PM
I had no recollection about Sam's line in ExDM it's complicated

Yes, if there could be clear references to a relationship between Sam and Jack, I could accept that. Well, either accept or bitterly turn off the show. Not gonna happen.

So, the Ship could be kept afloat through phone calls. Emails. Daniel teasing her or asking her about Jack. A picture of Jack in the background in her lab. Sam leaving the base for an extended downtime with plans to meet Jack at the cabin. There are soooo many ways to keep the Ship going. The Virtual Ship as it were. Obviously, for those of you who read my posts, I gnaw happily on any little bones!!!

Believe me, I am a little saddened by this outcome, too. I really, really, really wanted a face-to-face acknowledgement of Sam's and Jack's feelings and beginning a relationship.

Later, nell ;)But see here's the thing... (wow...I'm sounding more and more like Monk everyday) :rolleyes:

We knew all of this.

RDA's retired. He's NOT coming back fulltime. Full stop.

Any wishes along these lines have been just that. Wishes.

They made it crystal clear that for Season 9, our one bright shiny shipper acknowledgement would be "Not exactly" and that there was nothing else planned for the season.

And Amanda said it too. Ship is vague for Season 9 but the future's wide open.

That doesn't change the following...they know how big a following there is for Sam and Jack. Also, RDA's retirement does not preclude a once in a while guest appearance. Who knows? They might even talk him into a full episode next season. Anything's possible!

I believe exactly what I've been saying all along...or at least when I finally accepted back in April he'd be gone from the show...he'll be back. There will be something on screen at some point in the future. But ship right now is simply NOT front burner.

I can live with that because of the "not exactly" and all it implies...and the fact that in my heart I know we'll have a Sam/Jack scene in the future. I guess we won't have it until Season 10...but it will happen.

So I'm happy in my knowledge that they are together...sad that we won't see any of it onscreen (but my imagination is quite vivid thank you very much)...and at peace with the fact we'll see something onscreen between them in the future.

Silver lining my friends...silver lining. Just keep in mind...they might never have given us Threads...and Sam would have been married to...wassisname???

P.S...Do you all GET that they are in fact together? JM might have been dancing in his blog but he said quite clearly that Sam/Jack shippers should watch EDM. Ergo, that one line applies to Sam and Jack. Just because we aren't seeing it onscreen doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Let me repeat it because it bears repeating: FOLKS! THEY ARE TOGETHER!

:cool:

majorsal
September 24th, 2005, 08:16 PM
I am stunned. For the life of me, I shouldn't be. I want to be angry at Joe M but oddly I'm not. He has, after all, answered The Big, Honkin' Question. Will there be Sam and Jack Ship? No, RDA is retired from the show. Never say never??? Sure, OK!

I'll check in later. Gotta process this!!

P.S. Thanks, Uber, I haven't been reading his blog.

i'm not mad at joe at all. in fact, just the opposite! he answered the hard questions, *finally*. i actually think he's doing the fans a favor by answering, even if it's not the answers we want.

shippers, even though i've been *very* down and negative lately, i still honestly think we'll get *something* at the end. heck, maybe we'll even *see* a real relationship with them, but not this year. *sigh*

i can't quit, because if i do, then *they* might quit because they think we're not interested anymore! i'm going to send postcards, to let them know i'm still interested in seeing the most awesome scifi love story of all time!


sally :)

ChevronSeven
September 24th, 2005, 08:19 PM
I'm just laughing hysterically at the blog responses. Seems that Joe didn't exactly appease us in any way. All I have to say is...Cop. Out. :D

trupi
September 24th, 2005, 08:20 PM
SSP!!! Shameless Self Promotion!!!

I spiffed up my little Sam and Jack story first posted on GW. It is now on FanFiction.net. What Say We Head Home?

Um, here's the link http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2591991/1/
Read it a copy of days ago-really enjoyed it!

parsifal
September 24th, 2005, 08:26 PM
But see here's the thing... (wow...I'm sounding more and more like Monk everyday) :rolleyes:

<snip>

P.S...Do you all GET that they are in fact together? JM might have been dancing in his blog but he said quite clearly that Sam/Jack shippers should watch EDM. Ergo, that one line applies to Sam and Jack. Just because we aren't seeing it onscreen doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Let me repeat it because it bears repeating: FOLKS! THEY ARE TOGETHER!

:cool:

What it comes down to for me: It. Just. Isn't. Enough. No amount of rationalization (however intelligent or well intentioned ;) ) can change that. Maybe if I believed that someday we'll see real resolution it would be. At this point, I don't. I don't even know if I'd want Jack associated with what the show has become.

I'm glad you can enjoy it, though.

nell
September 24th, 2005, 08:29 PM
Why do people bother to read JM comments. Let him say whatever-he's god! But now I know why ratings are dropping. Keep playing games JM-have fun. Now I know why I haven't bought 9th season dvd set yet and probably won't! But anything is possible! Unemployment!

I'm not happy but with this news I can readjust my expectations to, how did Joe say it, ah, yes, "Unlikely." After I read Joe's blog, I decided to read all the GW Season 9 spoilers. If Jack isn't coming back this season, I decided I wouldn't be "spoiling" any possible shippy surprises. Damn, he was right! :o

majorsal
September 24th, 2005, 08:33 PM
P.S...Do you all GET that they are in fact together? JM might have been dancing in his blog but he said quite clearly that Sam/Jack shippers should watch EDM. Ergo, that one line applies to Sam and Jack. Just because we aren't seeing it onscreen doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Let me repeat it because it bears repeating: FOLKS! THEY ARE TOGETHER!

:cool:

i *loved* it when joe said that sam 'was' referring to jack in the 'not exactly' line in ex deus machina. and now joe's saying, 'yeah, she probably was'. 'probably'? is that a giveth and taketh away? i don't think so, but it's also a bit of hedging one's bet.

if sam and jack aren't in a relay, they've at least decided to not get involved with other ppl because they want to be together someday.



sally :)

minigeek
September 24th, 2005, 08:33 PM
RDA's retired. He's NOT coming back fulltime. Full stop.
Any wishes along these lines have been just that. Wishes.Meh. I hear ya sister - if wishes were horses and all that, right?

http://minigeek.net/random/misc/deadhorse.gif
The thing is, I've seen actors "retire" for a year, or two years and then sign back on. All Joe knows is that as of the present time, RDA has no contractual agreement to appear in Stargate further to what has already aired. They're so squiggy about lawsuits in this darn industry, they can't even say someone sneezed without adding the caveat "allegedly" - just in case it doesn't pan out. RDA's future on Stargate, even as a regular, could still change on a dime.


P.S...Do you all GET that they are in fact together? JM might have been dancing in his blog but he said quite clearly that Sam/Jack shippers should watch EDM. Ergo, that one line applies to Sam and Jack. Just because we aren't seeing it onscreen doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Let me repeat it because it bears repeating: FOLKS! THEY ARE TOGETHER! :cool:Yep! Well, and Joe just said so too, in the same blog. :D
...what about the scene in Ex Deus Machina? When Carter replied "Its complicated", was she referring to Jack? Yeah. She probably was.Except, um, Joe - she said: "Not Exactly."

(didn't he write that episode?) :p


minigeek

nell
September 24th, 2005, 08:49 PM
But see here's the thing... (wow...I'm sounding more and more like Monk everyday) :rolleyes:

We knew all of this.

RDA's retired. He's NOT coming back fulltime. Full stop.

Any wishes along these lines have been just that. Wishes.

They made it crystal clear that for Season 9, our one bright shiny shipper acknowledgement would be "Not exactly" and that there was nothing else planned for the season.

And Amanda said it too. Ship is vague for Season 9 but the future's wide open.

That doesn't change the following...they know how big a following there is for Sam and Jack. Also, RDA's retirement does not preclude a once in a while guest appearance. Who knows? They might even talk him into a full episode next season. Anything's possible!

I believe exactly what I've been saying all along...or at least when I finally accepted back in April he'd be gone from the show...he'll be back. There will be something on screen at some point in the future. But ship right now is simply NOT front burner.

I can live with that because of the "not exactly" and all it implies...and the fact that in my heart I know we'll have a Sam/Jack scene in the future. I guess we won't have it until Season 10...but it will happen.

So I'm happy in my knowledge that they are together...sad that we won't see any of it onscreen (but my imagination is quite vivid thank you very much)...and at peace with the fact we'll see something onscreen between them in the future.

Silver lining my friends...silver lining. Just keep in mind...they might never have given us Threads...and Sam would have been married to...wassisname???

P.S...Do you all GET that they are in fact together? JM might have been dancing in his blog but he said quite clearly that Sam/Jack shippers should watch EDM. Ergo, that one line applies to Sam and Jack. Just because we aren't seeing it onscreen doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Let me repeat it because it bears repeating: FOLKS! THEY ARE TOGETHER!

:cool:

Thanks, Uber!!! Your exuberance is catchy!!! But, I will be cautiously optimistic about the subtle, shippy allusions that may occur in the remainder of Season 9 and later in Season 10. However, I absolutely agree, SAM AND JACK ARE TOGETHER!!!! :p :D :p ;)

Uber
September 24th, 2005, 09:12 PM
I agree MG...things could turn on a dime. But I'm going to rest in the "he ain't comin' back" motel because it'll cause much less stress.

Now if he did come back full time...well, duh, I'd love it. But rather than freak about what I wish I had or wanna have, I'm just going to enjoy what I got and will continue to get and know they easily EASILY could have gone the Mrs. Pete Shanihan route.

And they didn't.

:cool:

Oh, and...just because I like to say it and it's canon...Sam and Jack are together.

minigeek
September 24th, 2005, 09:17 PM
I agree MG...things could turn on a dime. But I'm going to rest in the "he ain't comin' back" motel because it'll cause much less stress.

Now if he did come back full time...well, duh, I'd love it. But rather than freak about what I wish I had or wanna have, I'm just going to enjoy what I got and will continue to get and know they easily EASILY could have gone the Mrs. Pete Shanihan route.

And they didn't.

:cool:

Oh, and...just because I like to say it and it's canon...Sam and Jack are together.

Who's freaking? Who?!

Brrrraaaaaaiiiiinnnnnssss!!!!

Sorry, I just read the funniest little Sam/Jack story on ff.net - the "brains" reference only works if you're an old zombie movie buff. Like - I am (did I just say that out loud?).

Hilariously enough, the darn fic is called: "If Wishes Were Horses"! :D It's by Karen T.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2501971/1/

Cheers!
& Brrrraaaaaaaiiinnnnsssss!!

mini(nothing, i swear)geek

sg-1fanintn
September 24th, 2005, 09:44 PM
So I'm happy in my knowledge that they are together...sad that we won't see any of it onscreen (but my imagination is quite vivid thank you very much)...and at peace with the fact we'll see something onscreen between them in the future.

Silver lining my friends...silver lining. Just keep in mind...they might never have given us Threads...and Sam would have been married to...wassisname???

P.S...Do you all GET that they are in fact together? JM might have been dancing in his blog but he said quite clearly that Sam/Jack shippers should watch EDM. Ergo, that one line applies to Sam and Jack. Just because we aren't seeing it onscreen doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Let me repeat it because it bears repeating: FOLKS! THEY ARE TOGETHER!

:cool:

You're absolutely right, Über! You all know that I'm no big fan of JM.....but this is as close an admission to canon as I think we can hope for, until (and notice I say "until") RDA returns. Relax. It will happen.

sg-1fanintn
September 24th, 2005, 09:51 PM
I'm not happy but with this news I can readjust my expectations to, how did Joe say it, ah, yes, "Unlikely." After I read Joe's blog, I decided to read all the GW Season 9 spoilers. If Jack isn't coming back this season, I decided I wouldn't be "spoiling" any possible shippy surprises. Damn, he was right! :o
I just wish people wouldn't take Joe so literally. Show business is all about positioning and posturing. You rarely get a straight answer out of any of these people. And sometimes, you get inconsistent answers. To me, it's all meaningless. Besides, when they do get RDA to come back, they'll really hype it closer to time for the appearances, in order to increase interest and viewership.

And I've never read anything about THE SHIP in any spoilers. That's just stuff they aren't going to release that way.


The thing is, I've seen actors "retire" for a year, or two years and then sign back on. All Joe knows is that as of the present time, RDA has no contractual agreement to appear in Stargate further to what has already aired. They're so squiggy about lawsuits in this darn industry, they can't even say someone sneezed without adding the caveat "allegedly" - just in case it doesn't pan out. RDA's future on Stargate, even as a regular, could still change on a dime.
What she said! I'm not worried. I just wish they had resolved it definitively while they still had RDA there on a regular basis. The fact that they didn't tells me that they plan to eventually, when they can gain more advantage from it. Call me crazy, but show business people are like politicians.....they're just not well-acquainted with the truth.

nell
September 24th, 2005, 10:09 PM
You're absolutely right, Über! You all know that I'm no big fan of JM.....but this is as close an admission to canon as I think we can hope for, until (and notice I say "until") RDA returns. Relax. It will happen.

((((sg-1fanintn))))
You and Uber (sorry Uber, I forget how to do the umlaut) are unwavering in your hope/assertion that RDA will return. Right now, after Joe's disclosures, I'm much less certain than I was before reading his blog. I don't think Joe's playing around. I am curious about the precipitant(s) to these admissions. Obviously, to me, TPTB, or at least Joe, are taking heat about backstory omissions and Jack's mysterious circumstances of transfer to Homeworld Security. And right he/they are. FCOL, it's mid-season and we know very little about many things. I will reserve final judgement till after we talk some more and ponder about the implications.

I BELIEVE, HOWEVER, THAT SAM AND JACK ARE TOGETHER!!!!! :p :D :p

nell
September 24th, 2005, 10:21 PM
I just wish people wouldn't take Joe so literally. Show business is all about position and posturing. You rarely get a straight answer out of any of these people. And sometimes, you get inconsistent answers. To me, it's all meaningless. Besides, when they do get RDA to come back, they'll really hype it closer to time for the appearances, in order to increase interest and viewership.

And I've never read anything about THE SHIP in any spoilers. That's just stuff they aren't going to release that way.


What she said! I'm not worried. I just wish they had resolved it definitively while they still had RDA there on a regular basis. The fact that they didn't tells me that they plan to eventually, when they can gain more advantage from it. Call me crazy, but show business people are like politicians.....they're just not well-acquainted with the truth.

I don't know about the entertainment business from direct experience. So, I appreciate your familiarity with how this works. I do have experience as a TV viewer over, ah, lots of years, and, yeah, show development seems to be in a perpetual state of flux. To me, that RDA did not leave the show with a big farewell was a tangible hope that he was bowing out temporarily. Daughter. Charitable projects. Well-earned R&R. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

I hope he returns in a significant way to resolve the Ship even for one episode. In the meantime, I am confident that Sam and Jack are together!!! :p ;)

Uber
September 24th, 2005, 10:21 PM
((((sg-1fanintn))))
You and Uber (sorry Uber, I forget how to do the umlaut) are unwavering in your hope/assertion that RDA will return. Right now, after Joe's disclosures, I'm much less certain than I was before reading his blog. I don't think Joe's playing around. I am curious about the precipitant(s) to these admissions. Obviously, to me, TPTB, or at least Joe, are taking heat about backstory omissions and Jack's mysterious circumstances of transfer to Homeworld Security. And right he/they are. FCOL, it's mid-season and we know very little about many things. I will reserve final judgement till after we talk some more and ponder about the implications.

I BELIEVE, HOWEVER, THAT SAM AND JACK ARE TOGETHER!!!!! :p :D :pSee remember...take your rest in the "he ain't coming back" motel...that way, if he makes a return appearance, you're thrilled.

:D

majorsal
September 24th, 2005, 10:35 PM
shippers, i've got a question for you --

what s/j ending was better - lost city or threads/moebius?

before you answer, think carefully of what we went through to get to threads/moebius? was it worth it?

to answer for myself, i pick lost city.

your pick?



sally :)

Uber
September 24th, 2005, 10:42 PM
shippers, i've got a question for you --

what s/j ending was better - lost city or threads/moebius?

before you answer, think carefully of what we went through to get to threads/moebius? was it worth it?

to answer for myself, i pick lost city.

your pick?



sally :)Let's see though. At the end of Threads, we got Sam willing to tell Jack how she feels and fishing.

At the end of Lost City, we got Sam almost willing to tell Jack how she feels and a Jackcicle.

Hmm.

I think I'll stick with Threads.

...although I understand that, if kept at the appropriate temperature, Jackcicle's last through the summer heat longer than fish...

Nope. Still Threads. Yet oddly, I'm compelled to watch Solitudes again...

:cool:

nell
September 24th, 2005, 10:52 PM
shippers, i've got a question for you --

what s/j ending was better - lost city or threads/moebius?

before you answer, think carefully of what we went through to get to threads/moebius? was it worth it?

to answer for myself, i pick lost city.

your pick?



sally :)

Threads/Moebius!!! for these very important reasons Sam broke off her engagement to :eek: because she realized that she was in love with Jack!!! Jack did not protest when his new love interest broke up with him because of his feelings for Sam!! And Sam accepted Jack's invitation to fish!!!

majorsal
September 24th, 2005, 11:02 PM
spoilers for s7's grace, lost city and s8's new order, affinity, threads, and moebius

1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1




Let's see though. At the end of Threads, we got Sam willing to tell Jack how she feels and fishing.

At the end of Lost City, we got Sam almost willing to tell Jack how she feels and a Jackcicle.

Hmm.

I think I'll stick with Threads.

...although I understand that, if kept at the appropriate temperature, Jackcicle's last through the summer heat longer than fish...

Nope. Still Threads. Yet oddly, I'm compelled to watch Solitudes again...

:cool:

you know why i pick lost city? by the time we got to lost city, the worst we went through was chimera (the ep of famine and death). and in between chimera and lost city, we had some great ship.

in lost city, sam tried (twice) to tell jack how she felt. grace told us that sam was confused by her real feelings for jack and his for hers. i believe 100 percent that sam knew what hers were by lost city. that scene where she's taken jack's face in her hands, begging him to save himself. and then when he was frozen, reaching out to touch jack's face through the ice, with her longingly staring at him... it told us *everything* we needed to know about jack in her heart.

then go to new order. it was shippy, but what should *not* have been there was pete. he should have been long dumped and sam just focusing on rescuing jack. and then we have sam accepting @%$&'s marriage proposal...

what we got in threads/moebius wasn't worth it to me, because every single thing i wanted to be told/shown to me was in lost city.

i wish the show had ended with lost city.


sally :)

Uber
September 24th, 2005, 11:14 PM
spoilers for s7's grace, lost city and s8's new order, affinity, threads, and moebius

1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1





you know why i pick lost city? by the time we got to lost city, the worst we went through was chimera (the ep of famine and death). and in between chimera and lost city, we had some great ship.

in lost city, sam tried (twice) to tell jack how she felt. grace told us that sam was confused by her real feelings for jack and his for hers. i believe 100 percent that sam knew what hers were by lost city. that scene where she's taken jack's face in her hands, begging him to save himself. and then when he was frozen, reaching out to touch jack's face through the ice, with her longingly staring at him... it told us *everything* we needed to know about jack in her heart.

then go to new order. it was shippy, but what should *not* have been there was pete. he should have been long dumped and sam just focusing on rescuing jack. and then we have sam accepting @%$&'s marriage proposal...

what we got in threads/moebius wasn't worth it to me, because every single thing i wanted to be told/shown to me was in lost city.

i wish the show had ended with lost city.


sally :)And yet...WE GOT FISHING!!!! LOL

Plus, with Threads, Sam categorically was willing to and did break off her engagement with Pete because she knew what she wanted...and she was willing to deal with whatever professional consequences that might entail. Not sure Lost City Sam was there quite yet. It took the actual application of Sam's theory (house and a dog) for her to realize the premise was incorrect.

And don't forget....WE GOT FISHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

atfan
September 24th, 2005, 11:38 PM
I too am confused why leave it hanging? I am even more upset when ep (beachead) came on and Sam says,not really to the question so are you single? That drove me crazy.Does anyone have any thoughts on this episode because I think It would be cool if RDA did a guest spot and they wrapped this up. Did S/J get together and are now dating since they are no longer in the same chain of command. BTW I used to be military and this is not a rule. Officers can date so long as they are within 2 paygrades of each other. Oh well I guess that is not important since RDA left the show but I sure would like to know for my own peace of mind.

pittsburghgirl
September 24th, 2005, 11:44 PM
I too am confused why leave it hanging? I am even more upset when ep (beachead) came on and Sam says,not really to the question so are you single? That drove me crazy.Does anyone have any thoughts on this episode because I think It would be cool if RDA did a guest spot and they wrapped this up. Did S/J get together and are now dating since they are no longer in the same chain of command. BTW I used to be military and this is not a rule. Officers can date so long as they are within 2 paygrades of each other. Oh well I guess that is not important since RDA left the show but I sure would like to know for my own peace of mind.
they left it hanging because they could-it is an out for them and a way of drawing in fans-without really having to promise or actually do anything. If they think that they can hold onto a certain part of the fandom by promising everything and delivering nothing they will do it. Look at season 8-threads-as cute as it was-still really didn't settle anything (in my mind it didn't-so-they went fishing-but so did daniel and teal'c) and mobieus was a big joke-and an out for them as well-because they could argue that it is an alternate, alternate alternate-ad nauseum

trupi
September 25th, 2005, 12:55 AM
they left it hanging because they could-it is an out for them and a way of drawing in fans-without really having to promise or actually do anything. If they think that they can hold onto a certain part of the fandom by promising everything and delivering nothing they will do it. Look at season 8-threads-as cute as it was-still really didn't settle anything (in my mind it didn't-so-they went fishing-but so did daniel and teal'c) and mobieus was a big joke-and an out for them as well-because they could argue that it is an alternate, alternate alternate-ad nauseum
Absoutely right! IMO as long as we keep chanting "ARE we there yet?", TPTB is going to keep yanking our chains by saying look what we gave you and there is a possibly there might be more----if I printed what I'm thinking, right this minute, I would can kicked off the thread! Enough! Let's keep our world alive the way that we know it is alive. We don't need them, we have our videos, pic captions,fanfics etc.- S/J are togther forever. We have a great thread which is getting torn apart by some selfish TPTB. Let them get their francize and ~~~~ We have the family and that is what makes us great!

trupi
September 25th, 2005, 01:26 AM
((((sg-1fanintn))))
You and Uber (sorry Uber, I forget how to do the umlaut) are unwavering in your hope/assertion that RDA will return. Right now, after Joe's disclosures, I'm much less certain than I was before reading his blog. I don't think Joe's playing around. I am curious about the precipitant(s) to these admissions. Obviously, to me, TPTB, or at least Joe, are taking heat about backstory omissions and Jack's mysterious circumstances of transfer to Homeworld Security. And right he/they are. FCOL, it's mid-season and we know very little about many things. I will reserve final judgement till after we talk some more and ponder about the implications.

I BELIEVE, HOWEVER, THAT SAM AND JACK ARE TOGETHER!!!!! :p :D :p
Come on Nell have faith! JM and the rest are pissed off at RDA for leaving. Gary Jones did a big joke line on how they offeredtrunk loads of money and RDA kept saying it's not the money, I'm tired etc.. But think-Do you remembered where a main character is written off the show the way SG-1 has wriitten Jack off? There is no closure, open ends and no explanations! It was like when Muldar gets abducted by the aliens because DD didn't want to do so many shows. So they brought in Patrick to fill in for DD- so on etc. It is the same. When RDA is coming back??????? But I trust Don! If anyone goes to any con. and Don is there, ask him the question and see what he says. Better indicater then JM and is a better friend with RDA then TPTB and would have the correct answer. Better yet, if we (lots of us) let RDA know how we felt about him and the show by e-mailing his main site ( because according to Don, RDA was upset the way he was written out and thought the fans were against him for leaving- told you this already and RDA basically said this in a interview, few weeks ago) Now if he says no then I'll believe that he is gone forever and never coming back!

Myrth
September 25th, 2005, 01:31 AM
They both had their high points, but I did like Lost City a teensy bit better... "Please Jack..." 'nuff said ;)


shippers, i've got a question for you --

what s/j ending was better - lost city or threads/moebius?

before you answer, think carefully of what we went through to get to threads/moebius? was it worth it?

to answer for myself, i pick lost city.

your pick?



sally :)

Catysg1
September 25th, 2005, 04:36 AM
my response...

:(

i basically knew this stuff, but i'd still like to see them 'hint' at things, like they did with 'not exactly'. and what's with joe saying that sam said 'it's complicated' in ex deus machina?

i still have hope, but with my lack of excitement with this 'new and improved! show... i hope i can stick around long enough to *see* them coming together! :rolleyes:


sally (looks for smiley face to fit mood....... keeps looking)

Sally ;)

Didn't you say you gave up watching JAG before season 10 because of the lack of shippy resolution betweem Harm and Mac ?? How come you are still watching season 9 SG1 for the ship then ?!! You are just upsetting yourself because of the total lack of ship . :(

In JAG , Harm and Mac were working together until the very end and all I can say is There is more ship between Harm and Mac on screen than Sam and Jack will ever have Now .

It looks like we'll never see Sam and Jack together on screen anymore .

When David /Harm wanted to leave the show ..Belisario stopped the series and wrapped up the ship in a very nice way . At least Tptb Jag had the decency to resolve the ship in a non sublte way and respected the dedicated shipper fans .

I thought Belisario handled the ship very well in JAG and didn't mess with the shippers when the time was right . I 'm watching season 3, 4 right now and so far so good ..and I know there is more ship in S 5,6 ,7 .
I also saw season 8 , 9 and watching season 10 and a lot of episodes are shippy , they don't beat around the bush ..the talks that Harm and Mac have , are really straight forward and you know what they are feeling .

Harm did say to Maddy that he loved Mac . When did we hear jack say that he loved Sam ....Never ..and it will never happen just because TPTB SG1 does not think that way for an on screen performance of that kind . :( Looks like we'll never hear and see it on screen .

I really hope that RDA will be as smart as Duchovny did in the x-files and come back soon for the last 2 episodes of season 9 to exit Sam/ AT with him off the show ...but whatever happens , if he does come back , I doubt TPTB will let them have a big honkin kiss ...I think they will go for a peck on the lips though to tell the shippers that they have been together for a while .

SG1 season 9 starts next month in the UK and I will watch because well , it's sci-fi entertainment but Last year by that time I had seen all the episodes with all of you in the US . I could not wait to watch them . This year I could not careless .. In a way , I'm glad that my addiction to that show is gone as I can concentrate on other great shows which are worth watching with some great ship .

SG1 will never be the same without RDA . it's over and I feel really sorry for anybody who expects S/J ship in season 10 . :(
No way that the shippers should wait that long for a resolution considering the time for resolution was end of season 8 . if they don't do it end of season 9 , then , it's 100% bad and I do hope the ratings would fall as low as possible and their sales on DVD drops by half too ( and I'm kind there ). I will never ever buy their DVD 's anymore . I stopped at season 6 and to be honest , I don't even watch them anymore , I used them for videos but as I stopped making SG1 videos now , I'm not even sure why all those DVD boxsets are on display in my library . I may box them up soon and put them in the attic . :S


Caty :)

STARGATE7777
September 25th, 2005, 05:36 AM
I have never posted in this thread before but have visited often. Like all of you I have enjoyed the Sam and Jack relationship for what ever it is. As a matter of fact until I found Gateworld I had no idea that anyone who watched Stargate DIDN'T want Sam and Jack together. It just made sense to me. The looks, the subtle moments, the unspoken words were enough for me to see a caring relationship that developed over time. It also seemed obvious that they would wait until regulations were not an issue. I was confused when they brought Pete onto the scene only because to me it seemed that the decision to wait between the two characters would now be impossible. Sam and Jack could now longer continue as before, together, yet apart. Their true feelings would have to come out. With the writers taking this approach I felt that they had decided to have a resolution and have Sam and Jack as a couple. I think that RDA's decision to leave (for a year) has put this storyline on hold.
Now, I know you're saying,"For a year." Is she delusional? Let me explain my line of reasoning. Stargate is a huge business. We see it as entertainment but the bottom line is money. Outside of the Stargate universe the other 3 actors are virtually unknown. This is not to in any way to belittle the other 3. This is just reality. RDA was on a prime time show for 7 years and on a major network. People know him and know of him. There was a reason that his name appeared before the title. He gave legitimacy to an unknown show on a cable network. Over the past few years MGM and now Sony have done everything to keep him on the show. They have not renewed the show until RDA has signed on. Now, this season they suddenly take a chance for what appears to be 2 years. I'm not buying it! I feel that RDA asked for a season off with the provision that he return in some capacity in season 10. This is , for want of a better term, a throwaway year. TPTB were counting on fan loyalty to get them through the year no matter what was the quality was. I also believe that is why they have totally revamped the show; new villians, new characters. I believe that RDA is like Jack, a lot smarter and involved than people give him credit. Again, this is only my opinion but I truly believe that RDA is coming back - His comments on how much he enjoys his work, the lack of a proper send-off, the little info on where he is (on Stargate). Sorry for rambling but don't give up hope just yet. As I said on another thread I believe RDA is just "Taking this loop off."

Rogue
September 25th, 2005, 06:08 AM
Come on Nell have faith! JM and the rest are pissed off at RDA for leaving. Gary Jones did a big joke line on how they offeredtrunk loads of money and RDA kept saying it's not the money, I'm tired etc.. But think-Do you remembered where a main character is written off the show the way SG-1 has wriitten Jack off? There is no closure, open ends and no explanations! It was like when Muldar gets abducted by the aliens because DD didn't want to do so many shows. So they brought in Patrick to fill in for DD- so on etc. It is the same. When RDA is coming back??????? But I trust Don! If anyone goes to any con. and Don is there, ask him the question and see what he says. Better indicater then JM and is a better friend with RDA then TPTB and would have the correct answer. Better yet, if we (lots of us) let RDA know how we felt about him and the show by e-mailing his main site ( because according to Don, RDA was upset the way he was written out and thought the fans were against him for leaving- told you this already and RDA basically said this in a interview, few weeks ago) Now if he says no then I'll believe that he is gone forever and never coming back!

Well If I was RDA I would be upset at his send off too. What CRAP! But I don't know where he got the idea that the fans are pissed at him. If the postings on GW are any indication, the fans miss him so much. He was the show.

Catysg1
September 25th, 2005, 06:10 AM
Stargate 7777 :)

I hope you 're right but I don't see why RDA would like a year off to be with his daughter just for one year only and then leave her again to come back to Stargate !!! . Usually when you give up work and finally decide to be with your kids ...it's something out of this world ..because you can then get to know them properly . Fancying going back to work after such a wonderful year with your children when you don't need it is a bit pointless ...because a child will still be a child a year later and can constantly show the parents a whole lot of new exciting things . It's neverending . I reckon that when you decide to stop work because you want to be with your kids , you never go back to work full time unless you have too and specially if you have been working for like 30 years before that .

At that point you just may be feeling glad that your kid in that case RDA 's little girl is still young enough . He can see her grow and help her threw her teenage's years may be :S .

He has a few years before she becomes a teenager and I think he may take all those years to be with her .
When she is a teenager , she probably won't like daddy to stick around anyway and then if he is bored he may work on a show again .

Most parents in their fifties have already grown up kids who don't really need them anymore but in RDA' case it's all different , his daughter is very young and can show him a whole new world . I think he is gonna fall in love with raising his little girl . He likes to work but he didn't say he likes to work on Stargate only . May be just volontary work in his daughter's school is what will enrich him next . I do think he will choose that option . ;)

The only thing I hope is him to be back in the 2 last episodes of season 9 to resolve the Sam and Jack ship , then call it a day . :)

Caty :)

Catysg1
September 25th, 2005, 06:27 AM
Well If I was RDA I would be upset at his send off too. What CRAP! But I don't know where he got the idea that the fans are pissed at him. If the postings on GW are any indication, the fans miss him so much. He was the show.


He was the show but I hope he will stay and spend time with his daughter , he is not that young anymore and seeing your little child growing into a little lady is more important than working away from all that . He will lose a lot if he comes back . I hope he won't chose the option of coming back in season 10 . I don't think he will . I can't see it happening . As I said before, His little girl will still be his little girl a year later and will hardly be raised up . Raising a child is being there for them all the time ..following their education , their little friends , taking them out places as a family trip , all that is very rewarding .Spending quality time with children is the best thing ever .
and you need to do it before they get too old . When they get to 13 , they don't want you around and spend most week end with their friends .

If RDA 's little girl is now 7 , then he has 5 years of wonderful quality time he can have with her ..after that , well she will do like any teenagers do :( and you kind of lose your babies from that time . it looks like RDA loves his daughter to bits and hopefully will cherish the next 5 years with her full time :)


Caty :)

ses110
September 25th, 2005, 07:30 AM
Sally I'am not upset with JM either.I'am just surprised with the ratings dropping TPTB are not being more careful in what they say about the Sam and Jack Ship.I appreciate the Honesty but I think alot of Fans want a little more Hope for the Ship.I still think with RDA gone TPTB could still do a much better Job with the Sam and Jack Ship.There's no reason we cannot see the Ship from Sam's side through Telephone Calls and having Sam mention Jack through Daniel and Teal'c.In regards to the rest of Season 9 I think I will miss most of the remaining episodes and Hope for better things in Season 10.One thing about SG-1 I think I can miss most of the episodes and not get lost.

SG1Poz
September 25th, 2005, 07:44 AM
shippers, i've got a question for you --

what s/j ending was better - lost city or threads/moebius?

before you answer, think carefully of what we went through to get to threads/moebius? was it worth it?

to answer for myself, i pick lost city.

your pick?



sally :)

Threads! Sam finally got both her heart and mouth in gear. :)

She had the chance to tell Jack how she feels in The Lost City but she lost her nerve (No pun intented).

Poz

minigeek
September 25th, 2005, 07:56 AM
I have never posted in this thread before but have visited often. Like all of you I have enjoyed the Sam and Jack relationship for what ever it is. As a matter of fact until I found Gateworld I had no idea that anyone who watched Stargate DIDN'T want Sam and Jack together. It just made sense to me. The looks, the subtle moments, the unspoken words were enough for me to see a caring relationship that developed over time. It also seemed obvious that they would wait until regulations were not an issue. I was confused when they brought Pete onto the scene only because to me it seemed that the decision to wait between the two characters would now be impossible. Sam and Jack could now longer continue as before, together, yet apart. Their true feelings would have to come out. With the writers taking this approach I felt that they had decided to have a resolution and have Sam and Jack as a couple. I think that RDA's decision to leave (for a year) has put this storyline on hold.
Now, I know you're saying,"For a year." Is she delusional? Let me explain my line of reasoning. Stargate is a huge business. We see it as entertainment but the bottom line is money. Outside of the Stargate universe the other 3 actors are virtually unknown. This is not to in any way to belittle the other 3. This is just reality. RDA was on a prime time show for 7 years and on a major network. People know him and know of him. There was a reason that his name appeared before the title. He gave legitimacy to an unknown show on a cable network. Over the past few years MGM and now Sony have done everything to keep him on the show. They have not renewed the show until RDA has signed on. Now, this season they suddenly take a chance for what appears to be 2 years. I'm not buying it! I feel that RDA asked for a season off with the provision that he return in some capacity in season 10. This is , for want of a better term, a throwaway year. TPTB were counting on fan loyalty to get them through the year no matter what was the quality was. I also believe that is why they have totally revamped the show; new villians, new characters. I believe that RDA is like Jack, a lot smarter and involved than people give him credit. Again, this is only my opinion but I truly believe that RDA is coming back - His comments on how much he enjoys his work, the lack of a proper send-off, the little info on where he is (on Stargate). Sorry for rambling but don't give up hope just yet. As I said on another thread I believe RDA is just "Taking this loop off."

Stargate 7777, that's what I firmly believe as well. I'd also heard that Rick was only taking a short time off, a year or so to be with family and do some of the things he'd been putting off for a long time. No one expected Stargate to last this long. If he doesn't make it back for season nine, I'd be extremely surprised if he didn't show up again in a future season, even as a recurring character. Extremely surprised.

mini

SG1Poz
September 25th, 2005, 08:17 AM
Sally I'am not upset with JM either.I'am just surprised with the ratings dropping TPTB are not being more careful in what they say about the Sam and Jack Ship.I appreciate the Honesty but I think alot of Fans want a little more Hope for the Ship.I still think with RDA gone TPTB could still do a much better Job with the Sam and Jack Ship.There's no reason we cannot see the Ship from Sam's side through Telephone Calls and having Sam mention Jack through Daniel and Teal'c.In regards to the rest of Season 9 I think I will miss most of the remaining episodes and Hope for better things in Season 10.One thing about SG-1 I think I can miss most of the episodes and not get lost.

Is season 10 confirmed? I haven't seen where it's been confirmed but if it has, where can I read about it? Thanks

Poz

Catysg1
September 25th, 2005, 08:24 AM
Sally I'am not upset with JM either.I'am just surprised with the ratings dropping TPTB are not being more careful in what they say about the Sam and Jack Ship.I appreciate the Honesty but I think alot of Fans want a little more Hope for the Ship.I still think with RDA gone TPTB could still do a much better Job with the Sam and Jack Ship.There's no reason we cannot see the Ship from Sam's side through Telephone Calls and having Sam mention Jack through Daniel and Teal'c.In regards to the rest of Season 9 I think I will miss most of the remaining episodes and Hope for better things in Season 10.One thing about SG-1 I think I can miss most of the episodes and not get lost.


And I agree .. they could do so much more with Sam being around but they refuse to do it ..Why ? well not sure , they are just bad people who don't really care and just want to miss around with the fans . I suppose that's it .
Tptb ALIAS when they realised they upsetted the fans regarding the ship in season 3 sorted the problem out and even said that :nothing will destroy the ship Vaughn / Syd ever again ..unless of course one of the actor decides to leave the show but even if that was the case ..their love for each other will still be present always .

It was necessary to resolve the Sam and Jack ship properly and not just give us the not exactly comment only .

Will it be difficult to have Teal'c asks Sam about Jack ??! I don't think so !!! Teal'c can only ask How Pete is doing !!! but when it comes to Jack ..nobody says anything .

I also find it terrible that his name is not mentionned that much ..At least through Teal'c asking Sam , we'll know what he is up to and perhaps will learn that he is missing them all and all that. Also for continuation Teal'c could ask Sam " So did you really sell your bike?" ..then she could say something involving Jack :)

Caty :)

Catysg1
September 25th, 2005, 08:40 AM
Is season 10 confirmed? I haven't seen where it's been confirmed but if it has, where can I read about it? Thanks

Poz


I hope you won't be disappointed SG1Poz :(

Myself I'm completely against a season 10 ...they gonna drag on and on and on and on and on not only the ship Sam and Jack but also put the other ship right in our faces .
I wish they would call it a day at season 9 ..it went on for too long already . Sometimes I just wonder if they don't want to beat the x-files or even Jag . Well , x-files and Jag had better ship than Stargate and better stories too specially those last 2 years of Stargate have been pretty poor on the story line . we hardly saw the Stargate last year and poor Jack was stuck in his office . :(
I have read that the ratings are no that good for this year ..so why would TPTB renew the show for season 10 !!??

I really do think they want to be called "The longest sci-fi series ever" . :eek: well what a disappointement if this is what they want !! :eek:

when it 's time to quit , it's time to quit and Season 8 was right , season 7 would have been perfect with perhaps Lost city 3 ...and Jack being saved ....Sam goes to him ..decides to move to wherever she was beginning of season 9 ...we see a little fishing scene a la threads . Jacob does not die so that he can be here for the wedding if there is one one day !!!

Unfortunately ..all that didn't happen and now we all have to suffer the consequences :(


Caty ;)

shipper hannah
September 25th, 2005, 09:43 AM
i never seem to get time on here anymore!
i would've dropped by yesterday, but i boiled and steamed my hand at work so i wasn't really in the mood for typing!
ah still nothing to report on the ship front?
we're really going nowhere with this are we? :(
*goes back to her fanfics*

nell
September 25th, 2005, 10:24 AM
i never seem to get time on here anymore!
i would've dropped by yesterday, but i boiled and steamed my hand at work so i wasn't really in the mood for typing!
ah still nothing to report on the ship front?
we're really going nowhere with this are we? :(
*goes back to her fanfics*

((((shipper hannah))))
Sorry about your hurt!!! Well, actually, alot has been talked about our Ship recently. Scroll back a page or two starting about Joe M's blog. Just a reality check for Seasons 9 and 10. We have different viewpoints but we all pretty much agree on one thing: SAM AND JACK ARE TOGETHER!!!! nell;) :p

LadyJeep
September 25th, 2005, 11:11 AM
You're absolutely right, Über! You all know that I'm no big fan of JM.....but this is as close an admission to canon as I think we can hope for, until (and notice I say "until") RDA returns. Relax. It will happen.
I agree with you sg-1fan. After all, Wasn't it RDA who asked them not to write the character out? He just needed some well deserved time off to do whatever. I believe it "will happen", too.

sueKay
September 25th, 2005, 11:19 AM
Hey guys!

((((((((Hannah))))))))))

Hope your hand feels better soon!

Re: JM's blog - I feel okay about it, and I'm definitely not angry at JM...But the blog didn't tell us anything we didn't already know.

TLC - or the season eight quadrilogy -

Gotta go with the latter - Why? Sam tries to tell Jack how she feels, but rather than shutting her up, Jack lets her speak. He doesn't deny his feelings for Sam to Kerry, and they go fishing, and it seems that Jack by the end of season eight is thoroughly thawed out and in touch with his heart, unlike season seven when was a Jacksicle.

Re: RDA - This is my thoughts.

I really don't think RDA had any intention of leaving the show full time, but I now think it's unlikely he'll be back...Here's why.

In the time since Don told us that RDA would be back...look at what's happened - TPTB and most of the cast have been forcing Daniel and Vala down our gullets non-stop, TPTB are talking how the sets a better place to be, being very rude by proxy, about RDA. AT's completely changed her tune (and I think TPTB spin-doctoring the actors has a LOT to do with that) and well...need I go on?

I reckon RDA had one look at what the show's morphed into since he left, and realised he's had a lucky escape. And if I were him, I'd be very angry about Jack's treatment too.

Just MO

ses110
September 25th, 2005, 11:50 AM
Caty I have News for TPTB.SG-1 can go on for 30 Years and most of Hollywood and TV viewers could care less.IMO SG-1 will never be as good as X-Files or some other long running Shows.IMO there's no doubt the Show is past it's prime.I think there could still be some great moments but that's only if RDA comes back for some episodes.I'am waiting for RDA to come back and when the ratings take off I want to hear what some of the Actors and TPTB have to say about that.I think privately some of the Actors and TPTB would admit the Show is not as good without RDA.We'll never hear them admit that in Public.I even think some of the Actors or TPTB would admit in private that the Show should have ended after Season 8.

sueKay
September 25th, 2005, 12:11 PM
Yeah Ses - I think once the show's over, it'll be forgotten very quickly...It won't carry the legacy of say, X Files or Star Trek (pre enterprise that is)

They've run it into the ground. Full stop.

Anunnaki
September 25th, 2005, 01:11 PM
Yeah Ses - I think once the show's over, it'll be forgotten very quickly...It won't carry the legacy of say, X Files or Star Trek (pre enterprise that is) They've run it into the ground. Full stop.

Is it really dead for you all? The idea; the possibility? The very thought of a positive outcome for Sam & Jack? That's truly saddening.

Stargate may not be the same kind of network television institution that, say, The X-Files, was, but it's certainly had its groundbreaking moments. I like to think it was better television than a lot of the stock-standard Major American Network shows that rolled in and rolled out over the years. Certainly for the Sci-Fi genre.

I'm sorry to see the disillusion and melancholy that seems to have co-opted the 'Shipper Family' here. I'm going to go out on a limb and refuse to give up the notion of Sam & Jack. I believe they will get there, eventually, on screen. I really do.

In the interim, you know what they say. Time (and fanfiction!) heals many wounds... perhaps even those of the heart.

Chins up all**
.A.

PS--> I'd like to thank sueKay, whose comments here a while ago planted the seed that Sam should propose to Jack. I was encouraged to go in that direction with the current story I've been working on by a friend for some time now, and I finally realized that it does make perfect sense. I only hope I did Sam justice with it. :)

nell
September 25th, 2005, 01:36 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb and refuse to give up the notion of Sam & Jack. I believe they will get there, eventually, on screen. I really do.

In the interim, you know what they say. Time (and fanfiction!) heals many wounds... perhaps even those of the heart.

Chins up all**
.A.

PS--> I'd like to thank sueKay, whose comments here a while ago planted the seed that Sam should propose to Jack. I was encouraged to go in that direction with the current story I've been working on by a friend for some time now, and I finally realized that it does make perfect sense. I only hope I did Sam justice with it. :)

((((Anunnaki))))
Hi hun, I hope we get the resolution on the screen, too. Right now, my consolation is that SAM AND JACK ARE TOGETHER IN-DEED!!!! Pun intended!!! Joe said as much, the together part, although he waffled a bit. Poor guy, TPTB must have the waffling gene when it comes to answering questions!!!!

Yep, I read chap 17. Cool proposal!! Sam is assertive, huh!

I'm re-reading Sally Reeve's, A Second Chance. Parallell process: I'm working through this latest news with a fic reflective of what I may give TPTB!!! ;)

florence
September 25th, 2005, 01:40 PM
I agree MG...things could turn on a dime. But I'm going to rest in the "he ain't comin' back" motel because it'll cause much less stress.

Now if he did come back full time...well, duh, I'd love it. But rather than freak about what I wish I had or wanna have, I'm just going to enjoy what I got and will continue to get and know they easily EASILY could have gone the Mrs. Pete Shanihan route.

And they didn't.

:cool:

Oh, and...just because I like to say it and it's canon...Sam and Jack are together.
Über, I agree with everything you've said about JM's comments on his blog :) Did you read my mind ? :p

Actually, I think we all knew it :
- RDA not coming back... even if I still wish he'll come back before the end of the show to make the SJ resolution real ;)
- no ship in this season... IMO Sam/Jack ship isn't about words, it's about looks and small gestures. If they're not even in the same room, it's really hard to do ship...
Like you said, now that JM has aknowledged it, SJ ship IS canon :D
We know they are together, no matter what happens or anyone else can say :)

I've not seen S9 eps yet, but I've already decided to take this season as a new show with a new team. I'm ready to give it a chance... but if I don't like how they handle the show, I'll quit. By 'handling the show', I mean good stories and strong characters... not like what they did in S7 or S8. Anyway, now, I'm more interested in Atlantis so it won't be too hard to leave SG1...

sueKay
September 25th, 2005, 01:58 PM
to make you all happy...I present my...

FIRST EVER WALLPAPER!!!!!!

Beneath the Surface - Dreams
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b298/suz_k/my%20graphics/season_4_bts_1.jpg

It's not that good, but it is my first attempt!

Annunaki - glad I could inspire you! My comments were on the show in general, if it continues into s10 like it has with s9...all the good of years 1 - 7 could be undone.

florence
September 25th, 2005, 02:18 PM
to make you all happy...I present my...

FIRST EVER WALLPAPER!!!!!!

Beneath the Surface - Dreams
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b298/suz_k/my%20graphics/season_4_bts_1.jpg

It's not that good, but it is my first attempt!

Annunaki - glad I could inspire you! My comments were on the show in general, if it continues into s10 like it has with s9...all the good of years 1 - 7 could be undone.
Great wallpaper sueKay ! I love it ! :D Well, maybe it's because Beneath the Surface is one of my fav episodes, and probably my fav Sam/Jack shippy scene :p :D

majorshrl
September 25th, 2005, 02:48 PM
I'm not sure Rick will be back full time but am hopeing for a couple of guest appearances. Thank god we have fan fiction and our own beliefs that Sam and Jack are together. It would be good to have his name mentioned in conversation after all when some one leaves your place of work they are not immediately forgotton, and lets face it who could forget about Jack!!

Shirley

sueKay
September 25th, 2005, 02:52 PM
WELCOME MAJORSHRL!!!!!!

Another Scottish Shipper yay!!!!!!!

OT - I'm from Balloch, Loch Lomond.

stargate barbie
September 25th, 2005, 03:08 PM
on the Lost City or Threads/Moebius debate, i'm gonna have to go with Threads/Moebius for the ship.

they dealt more fully with the ship, sam actually broke up with pete. we saw both of them acknowledge their feelings for the other in the same episode. and instead of being left with the feeling that they did both love each other, but one had a boyfriend and the other was FROZEN and hence the possibility of never seeing one another again, i felt that threads and moebius left us with the knowledge that they were actually in the process of getting together. in threads, they showed each other that they love one another and they proved that they were going to do something about that. sam by breaking up with pete and going to jacks house, jack by not fighting at all over breaking up with kerry and in fact pretty much asking her for advice about sam, and also with his "always" scene. then the fishing. they showed them alone fishing at first to say, hey look, these two are together now. everyone knows what fishing means. then they brought out D & T to say, but we still haven't forgotten the other guys. they're still important too ya know.
so to me Threads/Moebius was a resolution, and had some closure to it, where Lost City was just a nice acknowledgement that the ship was still there.


there's probably more, but i think i've rambled enough.
anyway, they ARE together, and i'm still gonna watch the show for season 9 at least. if they do a 10 i'll probably still watch that too. unless they try to pair sam off with someone else or have s/j break up or something. cos if they do that then god knows what else they could try to do. its madness i tell ya.

and i've never been mad at JM. he's been on our side from the start.

Sum1
September 25th, 2005, 05:43 PM
Hey guys!

((((((((Hannah))))))))))

Hope your hand feels better soon!

Re: JM's blog - I feel okay about it, and I'm definitely not angry at JM...But the blog didn't tell us anything we didn't already know.

TLC - or the season eight quadrilogy -

Gotta go with the latter - Why? Sam tries to tell Jack how she feels, but rather than shutting her up, Jack lets her speak. He doesn't deny his feelings for Sam to Kerry, and they go fishing, and it seems that Jack by the end of season eight is thoroughly thawed out and in touch with his heart, unlike season seven when was a Jacksicle.

Re: RDA - This is my thoughts.

I really don't think RDA had any intention of leaving the show full time, but I now think it's unlikely he'll be back...Here's why.

In the time since Don told us that RDA would be back...look at what's happened - TPTB and most of the cast have been forcing Daniel and Vala down our gullets non-stop, TPTB are talking how the sets a better place to be, being very rude by proxy, about RDA. AT's completely changed her tune (and I think TPTB spin-doctoring the actors has a LOT to do with that) and well...need I go on?

I reckon RDA had one look at what the show's morphed into since he left, and realised he's had a lucky escape. And if I were him, I'd be very angry about Jack's treatment too.

Just MO
What do you mean by "AT has completely changed her tune"? Last time I read any interviews with her, she metnioned that she missed RDA, which was more than MS and CJ said. Even Brad Wright and Robert Cooper only mentioned RDA in that large 3 part interview with GW when GW asked them about him.

trupi
September 25th, 2005, 05:45 PM
WELCOME MAJORSHRL!!!!!!

Another Scottish Shipper yay!!!!!!!

OT - I'm from Balloch, Loch Lomond.
Perfect Suekay! My daughter is learning the song and she has to define what the word "gloaming" means from the line "And the moon coming out in the gloaming". Thanks

sg-1fanintn
September 25th, 2005, 06:30 PM
Why is everyone so upset about JM's blog? He didn't say anything new. He said what they've been saying for months.....that Rick was "retiring" and wouldn't be back full-time. Nothing new there!

But if you'll pardon the cliche, the only thing that's consistent is change. What could cause things to change? Here are some ideas:

1. A great script idea

2. Enough money

3. Sinking ratings

4. Enough fans staying on TPTB and writing RDA pleading for a return


Better yet, if we (lots of us) let RDA know how we felt about him and the show by e-mailing his main site ( because according to Don, RDA was upset the way he was written out and thought the fans were against him for leaving- told you this already and RDA basically said this in a interview, few weeks ago) Now if he says no then I'll believe that he is gone forever and never coming back!
Trupi, which site is his main site? There are so many RDA sites!!! Is it rdanderson.com? I'll be glad to write, and I bet most of the people here would be too.....and the Gutter Gals......you can't forget the GGs! They're....fanatical!

RDA was on a prime time show for 7 years and on a major network. People know him and know of him. There was a reason that his name appeared before the title. He gave legitimacy to an unknown show on a cable network. Over the past few years MGM and now Sony have done everything to keep him on the show. They have not renewed the show until RDA has signed on. Now, this season they suddenly take a chance for what appears to be 2 years. I'm not buying it! I feel that RDA asked for a season off with the provision that he return in some capacity in season 10. This is , for want of a better term, a throwaway year. TPTB were counting on fan loyalty to get them through the year no matter what was the quality was. I also believe that is why they have totally revamped the show; new villians, new characters. I believe that RDA is like Jack, a lot smarter and involved than people give him credit. Again, this is only my opinion but I truly believe that RDA is coming back - His comments on how much he enjoys his work, the lack of a proper send-off, the little info on where he is (on Stargate). Sorry for rambling but don't give up hope just yet. As I said on another thread I believe RDA is just "Taking this loop off."
I like the way you think! Interesting theory.....and kinda in keeping with what minigeek and I have theorized.

IMHO.....just sayin'.

Uber
September 25th, 2005, 06:36 PM
I would like to say how entirely crushed I am that no one commented on my Jackcicle joke...or the joke about which would last better in the summer heat...

...or the follow through about needing to see Solitudes for another Jackcicle ep.

I was really proud of that post...it cracked me up for 10 solid minutes...and not one person noticed!!!

Makes me want to whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine..................

:eek: :S :rolleyes:

:cool:

Miz_Gatez
September 25th, 2005, 07:06 PM
I'm totally in the middle :S I love SG-1 and part of me will always say "YEEEESSS!" if someone asks, "season 10?".

But another part of me wants to see the crappiness end (seriously, they've got Daniel acting like Jack and Jack 'n Sam are probably *still* dancing around each other even though the whole "non-frat regs" don't apply!).

And another part of me wants to chain myself to the producers' studio doors yelling, "I'M NOT LEAVING UNTIL YOU SHOW SAM AND JACK SMOOCHIN'!!!" (I'm weird that way :rolleyes: ).

:eek: :S Eepers...

Gatetrixer
September 25th, 2005, 07:06 PM
Come on Nell have faith! JM and the rest are pissed off at RDA for leaving. Gary Jones did a big joke line on how they offeredtrunk loads of money and RDA kept saying it's not the money, I'm tired etc.. But think-Do you remembered where a main character is written off the show the way SG-1 has wriitten Jack off? There is no closure, open ends and no explanations! It was like when Muldar gets abducted by the aliens because DD didn't want to do so many shows. So they brought in Patrick to fill in for DD- so on etc. It is the same. When RDA is coming back??????? But I trust Don! If anyone goes to any con. and Don is there, ask him the question and see what he says. Better indicater then JM and is a better friend with RDA then TPTB and would have the correct answer. Better yet, if we (lots of us) let RDA know how we felt about him and the show by e-mailing his main site ( because according to Don, RDA was upset the way he was written out and thought the fans were against him for leaving- told you this already and RDA basically said this in a interview, few weeks ago) Now if he says no then I'll believe that he is gone forever and never coming back!


Trupi, this is the first that I remember hearing that Don said (1) RDA was upset about the way he was written out (I was furious myself) (2) that Don said RDA thought the fans were against him for leaving. Wouldn't mind if you repeated as much of the talk with him that you remember and care to repeat. As I recall you said something about the specific episode (not the name of it) that Don and RDA would be in. I'm asking this because I'm wondering if I've missed more than that above.

I think a great many fans have no idea why RDA left, even some Gaters show they don't know by what that say on other threads. But really,(just sticking this in, not anything to do with your post) if he left just because he wanted to--it was time, that would be his privilege, too. It doesn't always have to be for a lofty reason such as his daughter or doing charity. And I'm wondering how much nasty mail he got if he thought fans were against him. And I, too, think he's beginning to wonder about the comments coming out out from the studios,(PTB and other actors) dissing him by omission, from what he said in his introduction to the book by whatshername who does all those interviews.

trupi
September 25th, 2005, 07:09 PM
Why is everyone so upset about JM's blog? He didn't say anything new. He said what they've been saying for months.....that Rick was "retiring" and wouldn't be back full-time. Nothing new there!

But if you'll pardon the cliche, the only thing that's consistent is change. What could cause things to change? Here are some ideas:

1. A great script idea

2. Enough money

3. Sinking ratings

4. Enough fans staying on TPTB and writing RDA pleading for a return


Trupi, which site is his main site? There are so many RDA sites!!! Is it rdanderson.com? I'll be glad to write, and I bet most of the people here would be too.....and the Gutter Gals......you can't forget the GGs! They're....fanatical!

I like the way you think! Interesting theory.....and kinda in keeping with what minigeek and I have theorized.

IMHO.....just sayin'.
Scifi.com recommends http://rdanderson.com/ I'm going to keep looking to see if there are any other RDA sites we can use.

minigeek
September 25th, 2005, 07:11 PM
I would like to say how entirely crushed I am that no one commented on my Jackcicle joke...or the joke about which would last better in the summer heat...

...or the follow through about needing to see Solitudes for another Jackcicle ep.

I was really proud of that post...it cracked me up for 10 solid minutes...and not one person noticed!!!

Makes me want to whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine..................

:eek: :S :rolleyes:

:cool:

Über! I'm sorry hun! I was going to come play last night but ...... stuff came up. ;)

And I just got in the door this afternoon. But I'll share your Jackcicle! :eek: Wait a second..... you thawed him out already, didn't you? :rolleyes:

mini

Uber
September 25th, 2005, 07:20 PM
Über! I'm sorry hun! I was going to come play last night but ...... stuff came up. ;)

And I just got in the door this afternoon. But I'll share your Jackcicle! :eek: Wait a second..... you thawed him out already, didn't you? :rolleyes:

miniI understand a properly frozen Jackcicle can last for years...

*did I say that out loud???*

whoops...perhaps I should've said that on a thunk thread... :eek:

Gatetrixer
September 25th, 2005, 07:35 PM
Stargate 7777 :)

I hope you 're right but I don't see why RDA would like a year off to be with his daughter just for one year only and then leave her again to come back to Stargate !!! . Usually when you give up work and finally decide to be with your kids ...it's something out of this world ..because you can then get to know them properly . Fancying going back to work after such a wonderful year with your children when you don't need it is a bit pointless ...because a child will still be a child a year later and can constantly show the parents a whole lot of new exciting things . It's neverending . I reckon that when you decide to stop work because you want to be with your kids , you never go back to work full time unless you have too and specially if you have been working for like 30 years before that .

At that point you just may be feeling glad that your kid in that case RDA 's little girl is still young enough . He can see her grow and help her threw her teenage's years may be :S .

He has a few years before she becomes a teenager and I think he may take all those years to be with her .
When she is a teenager , she probably won't like daddy to stick around anyway and then if he is bored he may work on a show again .

Most parents in their fifties have already grown up kids who don't really need them anymore but in RDA' case it's all different , his daughter is very young and can show him a whole new world . I think he is gonna fall in love with raising his little girl . He likes to work but he didn't say he likes to work on Stargate only . May be just volontary work in his daughter's school is what will enrich him next . I do think he will choose that option . ;)

The only thing I hope is him to be back in the 2 last episodes of season 9 to resolve the Sam and Jack ship , then call it a day . :)

Caty :)


Caty, I agree with most of your post, except in the USA I don't know how many well known men, usually athletes, have said they are retiring "to spend more time with their family" and the next thing you know they are back on a team. Not saying this is the case with RDA just noting how cynical I've become when I hear this declared by said athletes. I think RDA, and I believe he said it, would like to get some acting work, not full-time, in Hollywood. Part-time would mean those 14-15 hours days would be only once in a while and Hollywood would mean no flying to Vancouver. I used to wonder why RDA was taking these adventure trips to China and South America etc. during the long breaks between filming SG when on the one hand he was talking about reducing his SG schedule to be with his daughter and he could have used those breaks to be with her. Shouldn't have been my concern, but couldn't stop my thoughts.

ChevronSeven
September 25th, 2005, 07:35 PM
I understand a properly frozen Jackcicle can last for years...

*did I say that out loud???*

whoops...perhaps I should've said that on a thunk thread... :eek:

SNORT!

Sorry 'bout earlier. I just found your comment. Had ISP issues last night and it's West Wing Sunday. :P

Miz_Gatez
September 25th, 2005, 07:44 PM
CheveronSeven >

I'm sorry.

But I had to say.

I LOVE your sig banner!!! :) :p :D

ST-1
September 25th, 2005, 07:46 PM
Got another fic for y'all. :P It seems my pendulum of creativity has swung back in the sappy direction, and I coughed up a "part five" to my recent series: No Regrets (http://www.gateworld.net/fanfic/archive/41/noregrets.html), sequel to What It Takes. Summary: what happens when Jack and Sam wake up on the couch? ;)

Please R&R!

And while you're at it, read Trigger (http://www.gateworld.net/fanfic/archive/15/trigger.html) by Aeryn. It's hilarious, and one of the best S/J fics I've ever read! :cool:

Gatetrixer
September 25th, 2005, 07:50 PM
For RDA or any parent who feels time is going too fast


Slipping through my fingers all the time,
I try to capture every minute
The feeling in it
Slipping through my fingers all the time
Do I really see what's in her mind
Each time I think I'm close to knowing
She keeps on growing
Slipping through my fingers all the time.



From "Slipping Through My Fingers" by one of the ABBA guys.

majorsal
September 25th, 2005, 07:51 PM
Sally ;)

Didn't you say you gave up watching JAG before season 10 because of the lack of shippy resolution betweem Harm and Mac ?? How come you are still watching season 9 SG1 for the ship then ?!! You are just upsetting yourself because of the total lack of ship . :(

... because i can't stop. i know the ptb are counting on this, but i can't help myself. funny, i was talking to my mom about this last week. i said that i 'wanted' to quit, but that i didn't... want to. i won't have anything else to do. i 'live' on this computer, playing with my obsession (stargate, sam/amanda, jack/rda, ship). i also will *never* get involved in another fandom, so this is really it for me. i'm hanging on for sam/amanda (even though i'm not 100 percent happy in that department) and the possibility of ship (which i'm hoping i get to see before i go into a retirement home).



When David /Harm wanted to leave the show ..Belisario stopped the series and wrapped up the ship in a very nice way . At least Tptb Jag had the decency to resolve the ship in a non sublte way and respected the dedicated shipper fans .

even though i don't follow jag fandom, i know others that do. would anyone like to tell caty about what kind of ^&@$ bellisario is/was with his shippers? we might get angry and frustrated with the ptb on stargate, but they're princes compared to mr ego. someone tell caty.


I thought Belisario handled the ship very well in JAG and didn't mess with the shippers when the time was right . I 'm watching season 3, 4 right now and so far so good ..and I know there is more ship in S 5,6 ,7 .
I also saw season 8 , 9 and watching season 10 and a lot of episodes are shippy , they don't beat around the bush ..the talks that Harm and Mac have , are really straight forward and you know what they are feeling .

and yet we had to put up with mac getting together with anyone 'but' harm. over and over. we had to put up with pete, with only one ep to have to really suffer through for seeing them shippy. can't say the same for jag. i was with jag from the beginning, so by the time the worst of the anti harm/mac stuff came, i couldn't handle it. you're in a better place than me, caty, on that show.

i'm not trying to be sarcastic, caty, i just think you need a better *example* to show the difference between s/j and h/m ptb. in my mind, the comparison = stargate ptb are fantastic!



sally :)

ChevronSeven
September 25th, 2005, 07:59 PM
CheveronSeven >

I'm sorry.

But I had to say.

I LOVE your sig banner!!! :) :p :D

Thank you!! I love yours too!!

GenHammondsBarber
September 25th, 2005, 08:00 PM
Hi to all the Sam fans.

I have a top 25 stargate women poll. Sam is currently #1.

Come check it out...it was recently updated.

http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=16929

majorsal
September 25th, 2005, 08:03 PM
Threads! Sam finally got both her heart and mouth in gear. :)

She had the chance to tell Jack how she feels in The Lost City but she lost her nerve (No pun intented).

Poz

but she was *supposed* to (with a kiss!), but because the show was renewed again... :rolleyes:



sally :)

Gatetrixer
September 25th, 2005, 08:03 PM
About AT's comment about Jack and Sam "getting it out of their systems" there is a fic by Nanda called "Revelation" on Heliopolis, both PG-13 on regular Helioplis and a NC-17 on Helio 2. Didn't work for either of them. There are two followups, one very recently. I'm not very up on the new ratings for fics, but these were the ratings at the time for this story.

trupi
September 25th, 2005, 08:10 PM
Trupi, this is the first that I remember hearing that Don said (1) RDA was upset about the way he was written out (I was furious myself) (2) that Don said RDA thought the fans were against him for leaving. Wouldn't mind if you repeated as much of the talk with him that you remember and care to repeat. As I recall you said something about the specific episode (not the name of it) that Don and RDA would be in. I'm asking this because I'm wondering if I've missed more than that above.

I think a great many fans have no idea why RDA left, even some Gaters show they don't know by what that say on other threads. But really,(just sticking this in, not anything to do with your post) if he left just because he wanted to--it was time, that would be his privilege, too. It doesn't always have to be for a lofty reason such as his daughter or doing charity. And I'm wondering how much nasty mail he got if he thought fans were against him. And I, too, think he's beginning to wonder about the comments coming out out from the studios,(PTB and other actors) dissing him by omission, from what he said in his introduction to the book by whatshername who does all those interviews.
Yeh- I forgot some of you guys weren't on this thread in the beginning of August when Lol4jack, sugarshaker,lynn and myself went to the NJ convention. If you go to pp450-to about 461 you see who we talked to. Guys are great especially when you buys some drinks. Spent 5 hours with Peter Williams and some breakfast time with DON. Great time we had! Check the old posts, some great pictures also!

minigeek
September 25th, 2005, 08:18 PM
About AT's comment about Jack and Sam "getting it out of their systems" there is a fic by Nanda called "Revelation" on Heliopolis, both PG-13 on regular Helioplis and a NC-17 on Helio 2. Didn't work for either of them. There are two followups, one very recently. I'm not very up on the new ratings for fics, but these were the ratings at the time for this story.

Nanda's latest fic is very good. Especially if you like an adversarial version of Sam/Jack. She writes the undercurrents of their affection for eachother really well, given the intense fighting they do! :D

The funny thing about the idea of "getting it out of their systems" is that, I think Sam might actually think something like that too. Amanda's mentioned on more than one occasion how much she gives of herself to Sam. I think she also gives her the "mistakes" she'd make, herself. So as for Sam, I think she might even get frustrated enough to try something like that with Jack, THINKING it would work for the best, then realizing of course that wasn't true at all. But it'd be much more complicated (and much too late!) by then. Which is even cute in an ironic kind of way! :p

Lets face it, when you look at careers and comments, experience, hero-worship, personality dynamics [etc etc], Amanda has had a similar growing process vis-a-vis her relationship with Rick when they first started SG-1 as Sam and Jack did as fictional characters. There are quite a few parallels. Amanda was the "new kid" and Richard was "Mr. Experience". She looked up to him. He took every opportunity to tease the hell out of her when she made mistakes. Of course, Rick was always more polite to Amanda than Jack was to Sam on the outside. BUT, we do tend to draw from what we know! ;)

mini(....humming now!)geek

majorsal
September 25th, 2005, 08:20 PM
on the Lost City or Threads/Moebius debate, i'm gonna have to go with Threads/Moebius for the ship.

they dealt more fully with the ship, sam actually broke up with pete. we saw both of them acknowledge their feelings for the other in the same episode. and instead of being left with the feeling that they did both love each other, but one had a boyfriend and the other was FROZEN and hence the possibility of never seeing one another again, i felt that threads and moebius left us with the knowledge that they were actually in the process of getting together. in threads, they showed each other that they love one another and they proved that they were going to do something about that. sam by breaking up with pete and going to jacks house, jack by not fighting at all over breaking up with kerry and in fact pretty much asking her for advice about sam, and also with his "always" scene. then the fishing. they showed them alone fishing at first to say, hey look, these two are together now. everyone knows what fishing means. then they brought out D & T to say, but we still haven't forgotten the other guys. they're still important too ya know.
so to me Threads/Moebius was a resolution, and had some closure to it, where Lost City was just a nice acknowledgement that the ship was still there.





wow, i think you just changed my mind on the debate! ;)



sally :D

majorsal
September 25th, 2005, 08:24 PM
And another part of me wants to chain myself to the producers' studio doors yelling, "I'M NOT LEAVING UNTIL YOU SHOW SAM AND JACK SMOOCHIN'!!!" (I'm weird that way :rolleyes: ).



i'll do it with you!! :p


sally :D

Miz_Gatez
September 25th, 2005, 08:30 PM
i'll do it with you!! :p


sally :D

LOL! :D Awesome! Where'd I put those chains.. ;)

(Aww, ty CheveronSeven :P)

Miz_Gatez
September 25th, 2005, 08:32 PM
0.o Jaffa Fodder? Anyone know what that is? I just saw my rank changed and I'm like, "..Huh..?" just about as confused as JAck when Sam got into her technobabble :S

Ok, that's my random thought of the day LOL.

gatebee
September 25th, 2005, 09:26 PM
I know I haven't posted here for a very long time. So I have done a little bit of catching up.

On the topic of our ship and RDA's return or not...well... very hard to say. In the beginning right before the end of S8 , I was a 100% sure that RDA will be back and our ship will have a happy ever after affair.

But now after all these months and all the snippets of rumors that we have been led to believe, one wonders what they are really trying to say. One would think that TPTB would try to lure as in especially with the sagging ratings. But instead , we become privy to negative news of RDA's no show. Even the remaining actors themselves are throwing us useless bones to make a ship.

So to keep myself at peace, I will just keep watching Threads and M2 and all the past eps. And with that I shall remain in the belief that Sam and Jack are married. And this pic for me says it all.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/FilBrit1/ship/PDVD_014.jpg

gwenhwyfar
September 25th, 2005, 11:15 PM
I'm totally in the middle :S I love SG-1 and part of me will always say "YEEEESSS!" if someone asks, "season 10?".

But another part of me wants to see the crappiness end (seriously, they've got Daniel acting like Jack and Jack 'n Sam are probably *still* dancing around each other even though the whole "non-frat regs" don't apply!).

And another part of me wants to chain myself to the producers' studio doors yelling, "I'M NOT LEAVING UNTIL YOU SHOW SAM AND JACK SMOOCHIN'!!!" (I'm weird that way :rolleyes: ).

:eek: :S Eepers...

I join you! But you might want to add "AND I DON'T MEAN AU/TIME LOOP/ALIEN INFLUENCE!!!"

Myrth
September 26th, 2005, 02:14 AM
I'll join in on that too... cept I'll be adding "AND MAKE THEM MOVE THEIR LIPS THIS TIME!" ;)


I join you! But you might want to add "AND I DON'T MEAN AU/TIME LOOP/ALIEN INFLUENCE!!!"

Myrth
September 26th, 2005, 02:46 AM
Thankyou for giving voice to my thoughts Anunnaki.

I'm a relative newbie to the SG online fandom, but I've been lurking around in the shadows long enough to see the rises and falls in temperment.

Personally I think it's just getting interesting. RDA not coming back this season might well be to do with another project that's come up for him. Could be anything really. You have think outside the frame of Stargate when looking for reasons for alot of this stuff.

I think he'll be back, if not this season, then maybe next season. Either way I think the kids at SG are doing a great job with what they have. I also think Stargate will outstrip the "institution" shows when it is (sadly) finally gone. This show has a quirk and poise that matches any of the greats and I think it's the highest quality production on tv today in any genre. I love knowing that the family on the screen is a reflection of the family behind it, and I love the ride.

I know it's hard to stay positive when you're not getting what you want, but have some faith. These people have bent over backwards for years to keep the fans happy and that's bloody hard given the differing opinions in place. I will still take my hat off to every one of them and thank them for their work and the joy they've given me in this wonderful story.

I hold the belief that we'll get what we want from Sam & Jack, one way or another. In the meantime.. I agree with the following sentiment.. we still have fan fic and music vids and graphic works annnd.. well we have the fandom to enjoy don't we.

Annunaki {shameless fangirl moment} your fic is as good as if not better than some of the produced scripts... so rock on and thanks for the ride.. it's a fun one ;)

Annnd.. if you really want to feel hard done by.. try shipping any pairing on a Dick Wolf show ;)


Is it really dead for you all? The idea; the possibility? The very thought of a positive outcome for Sam & Jack? That's truly saddening.

Stargate may not be the same kind of network television institution that, say, The X-Files, was, but it's certainly had its groundbreaking moments. I like to think it was better television than a lot of the stock-standard Major American Network shows that rolled in and rolled out over the years. Certainly for the Sci-Fi genre.

I'm sorry to see the disillusion and melancholy that seems to have co-opted the 'Shipper Family' here. I'm going to go out on a limb and refuse to give up the notion of Sam & Jack. I believe they will get there, eventually, on screen. I really do.

In the interim, you know what they say. Time (and fanfiction!) heals many wounds... perhaps even those of the heart.

Chins up all**
.A.

PS--> I'd like to thank sueKay, whose comments here a while ago planted the seed that Sam should propose to Jack. I was encouraged to go in that direction with the current story I've been working on by a friend for some time now, and I finally realized that it does make perfect sense. I only hope I did Sam justice with it. :)

Rogue
September 26th, 2005, 06:16 AM
Caty, I agree with most of your post, except in the USA I don't know how many well known men, usually athletes, have said they are retiring "to spend more time with their family" and the next thing you know they are back on a team. Not saying this is the case with RDA just noting how cynical I've become when I hear this declared by said athletes. I think RDA, and I believe he said it, would like to get some acting work, not full-time, in Hollywood. Part-time would mean those 14-15 hours days would be only once in a while and Hollywood would mean no flying to Vancouver. I used to wonder why RDA was taking these adventure trips to China and South America etc. during the long breaks between filming SG when on the one hand he was talking about reducing his SG schedule to be with his daughter and he could have used those breaks to be with her. Shouldn't have been my concern, but couldn't stop my thoughts.

I think men in general have different priorities than women do when it comes to kids. From my experience, even though my husband helped out, the main responsibility of caring for the kids was mine. We both work, but I was the one who always had to rearrange my schedule to take kids to the doctor, go to the school for meetings or events, etc. Lets not forget the golf on Sundays. The male bonding activity that takes all day.

nickatell
September 26th, 2005, 08:37 AM
After reading JM's comments I think what struck me as odd was how easy it was for him to say that having Mitchell and Carter both being Colonel's on the same team and them switching the command role between them was "against regs", as like "oh well". Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't the whole reason Jack and Sam couldn't get together was because of the almighty "regs"? Why is it so easy now to go against the regs and for eight years it was unthinkable to even imagine doing so? That particular section of his blog I do take offense to; that is where I feel that they have played us like fiddles. I also didn't like his answer to why Jonas couldn't come back; we can hire Beau Bridges, Ben Browder ... but Jonas would cost money. Well my question would be what are the other actors working for, food? Saying that, I do appreciate Joe finally answering our questions.

As for the passionate resolution between Jack and Sam, I think TPTB will play that card when absolutely necessary, or the ship may have sailed with RDA. I thoroughly believe that RDA had intentions of coming back after his break (gut feeling); but now that he is comfortable with being off of work, I think he may have changed his mind. My only hope is trupi's conversation with Don; but with the last show written by now..... As ses has said, with the ratings dropping this last week because of all the other new shows or returning shows starting, you would think that now is the time they would like to be promoting anything positive, and now this.

Unfortunately for me I want and have to see the relationship of Jack and Sam take place before my eyes, yes fan fiction and videos have gotten me this far; but I can't base the meat of the relationship on phone calls with only Sams perspective and seeing nothing of Jack. You know its funny, the other day I was watching "Ex whatever (forgot name)" with my daughter and when Sam said "not exactly", I looked at my daughter smiling and said "you know who she is refering to don't you" and she looked at me and said "after eight years you are excited about not exactly". With those words and the look on her face, I actually saw and heard what I have been feeling, she really put it in perspective.

nickatell
September 26th, 2005, 09:02 AM
You know Majorsal I totally understand what you said about Stargate leaving a hole in your viewing pleasure, I feel the same way. Stargate is quite literally the only show I watched regularly; oh I had shows in the past but when you get as passionate as I do over a show that I really like, there's no time. Besides I have tried some of the other shows but its like a relationship you can't make yourself like it. The relationship between Jack and Sam caught me unintentionally and has kept me there since, so the idea of giving it up was scary; but TPTB are making it easier. I used to hate the "off season" time of Stargate, not knowing what to do with myself, my mind filled with anticipation; but just as unintentionally as it caught me and held me for eight and a half years it is starting to let me go. I tried the new espisodes with Sam hoping that she would snap me back in; but I have to say it hasn't happened. So for now I listen for any highlights from you guys because I can't totally let go. To me Jack and Sam are at least on the same plateau about their feelings and have no intention of letting anyone else in; but until I see as others have said them relaxed together and in a full relationship with a big honkin kiss, it's just not the same. So Majorsal, you should take peace in the fact that you are not alone.

LOL4JACK
September 26th, 2005, 10:03 AM
(((((((((((Shipper Family)))))))))))))))

Thanks for all the hugs and worries... I'm currently back in France, waiting for news to see when can I go to Paris and request a new visa to enter the US, it could be days, weeks or months!

Since I'm in the corporate offices I can check with nice DSL GW... so I hope to be back soon... but ufff, so much to catch up!

And Shippers... remeber, Sam and Jack are together we all know that as a fact... :p I know we want to see more... but hey, they need some privacy :D

Big kisses and Hugsssss... Carolina