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ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:22 PM
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ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:23 PM
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ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:24 PM
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ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:25 PM
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ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:25 PM
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ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:26 PM
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ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:27 PM
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ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:28 PM
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ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:29 PM
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ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:30 PM
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ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:30 PM
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ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:31 PM
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ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:31 PM
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ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:32 PM
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ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:33 PM
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ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:34 PM
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ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:34 PM
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ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:36 PM
Sorry for not having anymore S5 or S6 S&J pix to share -- I’ve got many nice caps, but I haven’t scrubbed them up… (got lots of Jack in the photobucket folders… *grins* but it's the wrong thread for that!) I’ll have to finish scrubbing them up & post them sometime…


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/ShimmeringStar214/S7SG1/Gracekiss1.jpg
My favorite parts of the Grace kiss…

ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:37 PM
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ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:37 PM
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ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:38 PM
And some animated gifs I forgot I'd made a few months ago…

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Yes, he did ogle her back…

ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:39 PM
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Point of View
(I think Token herself had made a gif of the Grace kiss… I have caps, but never layed them into a gif…)

ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:39 PM
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ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:40 PM
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ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 02:41 PM
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Happy Birthday Token!!!!
:)

girlgater
May 27th, 2005, 03:06 PM
Great pictures, ShimmeringStar.

Something has been bothering me and I need some answers. In Window of Opportunity, the following conversation is held between Sam and Jack in regards to time travel:

SAM: It wouldn't be the first time we've seen something like this. The stargate did send us back to 1969.

JACK: Good year.

The way Jack smiles completely intrigues me...was there a particular reason he smiled so--to Sam? Was it just that he enjoyed the time travel experience, or what?

ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 03:17 PM
Great pictures, ShimmeringStar.

Something has been bothering me and I need some answers. In Window of Opportunity, the following conversation is held between Sam and Jack in regards to time travel:

SAM: It wouldn't be the first time we've seen something like this. The stargate did send us back to 1969.

JACK: Good year.

The way Jack smiles completely intrigues me...was there a particular reason he smiled so--to Sam? Was it just that he enjoyed the time travel experience, or what?Well.... I'm not sure Sam and Jack ever got a free moment alone without the rest of the team or their 1969 friends hanging around... so I wouldn't think it referred to anything *ahem* happening between them while they were there....

Perhaps Jack was referring back to his teen years when he probably was having certain experiences for the first time? :rolleyes:

Oma-1
May 27th, 2005, 03:19 PM
((((Shimmering Star)))) Those pics were wonderful :)

Token? May I also humbly offer my most sincere wishes that your birthday just


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girlgater
May 27th, 2005, 03:21 PM
Well.... I'm not sure Sam and Jack ever got a free moment alone without the rest of the team or their 1969 friends hanging around... so I wouldn't think it referred to anything *ahem* happening between them while they were there....

Perhaps Jack was referring back to his teen years when he probably was having certain experiences for the first time? :rolleyes:

Hmmm. That's true, it would be about the same time. How old is Sam supposed to be in the show? Could that have been the year she was born?? or is she that old (gee whiz...I'm older than that).

Oma-1
May 27th, 2005, 03:24 PM
Well.... I'm not sure Sam and Jack ever got a free moment alone without the rest of the team or their 1969 friends hanging around... so I wouldn't think it referred to anything *ahem* happening between them while they were there....

Perhaps Jack was referring back to his teen years when he probably was having certain experiences for the first time? :rolleyes:
Yup, could be. I'll bet Jack was wild :D :p and unbelievably :cool:

Could also be that he enjoyed spending time with The Team *coughSamcough* in civvies, around the campfire, on the bus .... I seem to recall quite a lot of shippy moments in that ep.

Could be he also enjoyed cracking those Enterprise / Star Wars jokes and zatting Hammond :p

ShimmeringStar
May 27th, 2005, 03:26 PM
Hmmm. That's true, it would be about the same time. How old is Sam supposed to be in the show? Could that have been the year she was born?? or is she that old (gee whiz...I'm older than that).
I believe she's supposed to be in her fairly late 30's, very close to 40 at this point (similar to the actress portraying her). I'm pretty sure she would have been a child nearing school age in '69.

girlgater
May 27th, 2005, 03:28 PM
I believe she's supposed to be in her fairly late 30's, very close to 40 at this point (similar to the actress portraying her). I'm pretty sure she would have been a child nearing school age in '69.

Ok....I guess I was searching for an obscure shippy solution without seeing the obvious shippy answer. Thanks!

Oma-1
May 27th, 2005, 04:03 PM
I've finally finished my pic mini series based on Chevroneight's quote.

"Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away and all the things I want to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I only hope my eyes will speak my heart."


Silence - Pt 1 (http://img133.echo.cx/img133/2788/silence49ko.png)
Silence - Pt 2 (http://img206.echo.cx/img206/1153/silence34qo.png)
Silence - Pt 3 (http://img157.echo.cx/img157/1914/silence26uq.png)
Silence - Pt 4 (http://img240.echo.cx/img240/873/silence14gr.png)

Myrth - I couldn't find another picture to sum it all up! So I'll leave it up to you to decide - great minds or fools :p

sclairef99
May 27th, 2005, 05:16 PM
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SS you've been on an SJ pic posting spree!!!!!!!! Loved 'em!

BTW....I have a set of those glasses....grabbed them off a garage sale after I saw them in this ep!!!! ;)

S

sclairef99
May 27th, 2005, 05:18 PM
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(Makes you wonder what Sam is doing... :rolleyes: )


ROTFLMAO...and isn't she enjoying it too!!!!!!! I would be if I were her....

S

sclairef99
May 27th, 2005, 05:32 PM
Finally got hold of a copy of this month's Dreamwatch. There's no specific article on RDA, just an interview with Robert Cooper about SG-1 S9 and Atlantis S2. Here's the bits that count ........

Q: Can you clarify how much we'll be seeing of Richard Dean Anderson in the new season?

A: "Rick makes a cameo appearance in episodes one and three, and he's absolutely not gone for good. His character is very much alive in the Stargate universe. Rick just needs some time. he wants to drive his daughter to school every morning, and I understand that. He absolutely made sure that we were going to leave the door open for his return."

Then later on in the article ....

"Rick has been doing this a long time. He has a family in LA and the show is something he doesn't have to do any more to pay the rent. It's something that he has done out of loyalty to BW and myself and to the cast, crew and fans, and because he enjoys doing it."

Q: "Finally, how long can these two shows go on?"

A: "I think that having seen the chemistry of the new cast and the potential for stories that these new bad guys and the new concept for the series have created, SG-1 has legs. I think we could be looking at many, many more years if it continues to grow and be successful and people want to watch it. I don't think that this is the last season of SG-1 by any means and I think this seson may end the talk about a "last season"."

Despite using the word absolutely twice, we're still not dealing in aboslutes :rolleyes: but every indication is there. RCC is saying that RDA's intention is to be back.

WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO! The ship will still be sailing!! Just going to be anchored for a while in S9 while its sails get repaired. ;)

WAY COOL ARTICLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was hoping that RDA being the work a holic that he is would get bored of RL and feel the need to work again as Jack O'Neill.....and now there's hope!

S

ForeverSg1
May 27th, 2005, 05:35 PM
Hey everyone--I'm new at being a shipper (didn't even know the word existed until now!) but i have just one question........has anyone noticed between the old and new episodes that some of the main characters (sam, teal'c) look like they've had some facelifts or botox??? It's really disturbing to me that Sam/AT could be sucked into the whole "hollywood" idea of beauty!! She's so pretty, and why would Jack want to be with someone filled with plastic!! :) anyone have any insight into this? thanks!! :)


I really don't think AT or CJ have had facelifts or botox... I think if anything you will notice that all the cast members have been working out a lot more over the past year or so. AT is much leaner in season eight than she has been in previous years, you can tell by her arms that she's been working out ( I know I have read that she has a personal trainer she works out with on the weekends) and CJ is a workout fiend gaining over 20lbs in muscle over one season break.. just look at the man's arms.

As for looking better, I think someone else posted this already but I really think it's due to better make up. AT's make-up has changed a great deal over the past eight years and I think they finally got it near perfection this past season as she looks great. As for CJ, I think part of what you may be noticing is the fact that he is not longer caked in gold makeup with dark eye make-up around the eyes any longer. He looks much younger and better without all that crap on his face. Now if they would just get rid of that tatoo on his forehead.

Kat

ForeverSg1
May 27th, 2005, 05:44 PM
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Thank you for all the great S/J pics Shimmeringstar!!

Kat

ForeverSg1
May 27th, 2005, 05:45 PM
Hmmm. That's true, it would be about the same time. How old is Sam supposed to be in the show? Could that have been the year she was born?? or is she that old (gee whiz...I'm older than that).

I believe AT was born in '65, but according to Entity Sam was born in '69.

Kat

Myrth
May 27th, 2005, 05:50 PM
I was watching that last night and wondering the exact same thing. There's Jack's intriguing little smile as he says it, but there's Sam's very intriguing answering smile as she continues her sentence..... made me wonder what happened in the bus after lights out.

Then following that she goes and he's saying keep me informed etc.. he sounds so crest fallen. I was wondering if that was a bleed over from Divide & Conquer... dissappointment at restraints perhaps?

;)



Great pictures, ShimmeringStar.

Something has been bothering me and I need some answers. In Window of Opportunity, the following conversation is held between Sam and Jack in regards to time travel:

SAM: It wouldn't be the first time we've seen something like this. The stargate did send us back to 1969.

JACK: Good year.

The way Jack smiles completely intrigues me...was there a particular reason he smiled so--to Sam? Was it just that he enjoyed the time travel experience, or what?

sg-1fanintn
May 27th, 2005, 09:05 PM
My, but hasn't Shimmering Star been a busy girl tonight? Love the pix! For a minute there, I would have sworn I had dropped in on the RDA/Thunk Thread.

And Oma-1, thanks for your great photos too! I love the quote, and what you did with it!

ST-1
May 27th, 2005, 09:29 PM
:D This is another super fic. Thanks for posting it here, and I hope we'll be getting many more. :D

:o :o :o :o Thank you! And thanks to everyone else who's written such nice comments. :o :o :o :o

The truth is, these stories have been popping into my head ever since I became a bona-fide S/J shipper, and releasing a few "onto paper" has been an enjoyable and cathartic project...even though it's left me sleep deprived for most of the week! :p

I appreciate you all being my "captive audience." :D


My S/J Shippy FanFics:

No Explanation Needed (http://www.gateworld.net/fanfic/archive/35/noexplanation.html)

Catalyst (http://www.gateworld.net/fanfic/archive/35/catalyst.html)

girlgater
May 28th, 2005, 04:01 AM
I was watching that last night and wondering the exact same thing. There's Jack's intriguing little smile as he says it, but there's Sam's very intriguing answering smile as she continues her sentence..... made me wonder what happened in the bus after lights out.

Then following that she goes and he's saying keep me informed etc.. he sounds so crest fallen. I was wondering if that was a bleed over from Divide & Conquer... dissappointment at restraints perhaps?

;)

Jack was acting way weird as Sam left. Definitely very melancholy and remorseful--I thought. I think Jack went through a period where he felt trapped just as Sam did. Except we saw her "giving up" or whatever in Grace. We just didn't see all the frustration with him as we did with Sam. It's a shame 'cause it would have made a good episode.

ses110
May 28th, 2005, 06:48 AM
IMO I think there is some jealousy with some of the Cast and Crew regarding RDA.RDA is very popular and RDA has been able to carry the Show when it's Just RDA and a guest Star.IMO some of the Cast have had trouble carrying the Show without RDA.I really think some of the Cast and Crew will be very motivated to prove they can carry the Show with RDA.

ses110
May 28th, 2005, 07:02 AM
IMO there should be a way to promote Season 9 without trashing RDA or any other Actors who were on the Show.IMO when some of the Cast finally do a decent Job carrying a episode without RDA then they can run there mouths.Some Cast members have had every chance to show they can carry on without RDA and IMO they failed.Why bring in BB if they could get the Job done without RDA?

sugarshaker
May 28th, 2005, 10:57 AM
I've finally finished my pic mini series based on Chevroneight's quote.

"Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away and all the things I want to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I only hope my eyes will speak my heart."


Silence - Pt 1 (http://img133.echo.cx/img133/2788/silence49ko.png)
Silence - Pt 2 (http://img206.echo.cx/img206/1153/silence34qo.png)
Silence - Pt 3 (http://img157.echo.cx/img157/1914/silence26uq.png)
Silence - Pt 4 (http://img229.echo.cx/img229/1908/silence16bi.png)




Bravo! :D

ForeverSg1
May 28th, 2005, 12:14 PM
Hope you are all having a good weekend. Here's a little shippy moment from the Warrior (bet you never noticed this one before ) hope you enjoy it.

Goodnight (http://img92.echo.cx/img92/5623/goodnight28kj.jpg)

AncientKnowledge
May 28th, 2005, 12:32 PM
Hey SHIPPERS!!!......I would thunk this great shippy picture but its really BIG......So here ya go...... :D ;) Sam and Jack,there so good together!!! (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/ElectoralCollage/wp_photo_2.jpg)

chevroneight
May 28th, 2005, 12:51 PM
Hi again everyone...

First off, I didn't think that the quote would be taken up so quickly and like that.... I just thought it was a beautiful quote and that all of you might appreciate it.



That quote's wonderful! Where did you find it????????

My boyfriend sent it to me on a really cute card while I was away in uni a few months ago. Think he's a keeper?? :) lol


That is a truly beautiful quote. It would make a great sig with the right pics...bet you are already working on it!

I'm not really the sig making kinda gal... I'm pretty useless with computers even on a *very* good day!


The pics are really nice, and the quote seems to fit them really well.
I still can't believe that much of a fuss was made over it lol

Thank you anyway :)

chevroneight

Oma-1
May 28th, 2005, 01:58 PM
Hi again everyone...

First off, I didn't think that the quote would be taken up so quickly and like that.... I just thought it was a beautiful quote and that all of you might appreciate it.
We surely did :)


My boyfriend sent it to me on a really cute card while I was away in uni a few months ago. Think he's a keeper?? :) lol
Well, if his taste in cards is anything to go by .... YES :p


I still can't believe that much of a fuss was made over it lol
It was a very welcome shippy distraction from the rather serious conversations we've been having :)

((((((((Chevroneight))))))))

Thank your boyfriend for us ;)

Uber
May 28th, 2005, 02:38 PM
Finally got hold of a copy of this month's Dreamwatch. There's no specific article on RDA, just an interview with Robert Cooper about SG-1 S9 and Atlantis S2. Here's the bits that count ........

Q: Can you clarify how much we'll be seeing of Richard Dean Anderson in the new season?

A: "Rick makes a cameo appearance in episodes one and three, and he's absolutely not gone for good. His character is very much alive in the Stargate universe. Rick just needs some time. he wants to drive his daughter to school every morning, and I understand that. He absolutely made sure that we were going to leave the door open for his return."

Then later on in the article ....

"Rick has been doing this a long time. He has a family in LA and the show is something he doesn't have to do any more to pay the rent. It's something that he has done out of loyalty to BW and myself and to the cast, crew and fans, and because he enjoys doing it."

Q: "Finally, how long can these two shows go on?"

A: "I think that having seen the chemistry of the new cast and the potential for stories that these new bad guys and the new concept for the series have created, SG-1 has legs. I think we could be looking at many, many more years if it continues to grow and be successful and people want to watch it. I don't think that this is the last season of SG-1 by any means and I think this seson may end the talk about a "last season"."

Despite using the word absolutely twice, we're still not dealing in aboslutes :rolleyes: but every indication is there. RCC is saying that RDA's intention is to be back.

WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO! The ship will still be sailing!! Just going to be anchored for a while in S9 while its sails get repaired. ;)
Okay...so the ship's in dry dock...

It'll be okay...just needs a few touchups.

A coat of paint...it'll be fine.

;)

sg-1fanintn
May 28th, 2005, 03:28 PM
=girlgater Jack was acting way weird as Sam left. Definitely very melancholy and remorseful--I thought. I think Jack went through a period where he felt trapped just as Sam did. Except we saw her "giving up" or whatever in Grace. We just didn't see all the frustration with him as we did with Sam. It's a shame 'cause it would have made a good episode.

I think we did see that some with him. After she started seeing Pete, I noticed that Jack's character seemed a little "flat" through the rest of S7 and into S8. At first, I thought Rick was just kinda bored with what he was doing. In retrospect (and after seeing Threads), I've decided that Jack was retreating into himself. He thought he was losing Sam, and he was becoming bitter about not being able to have the woman he loved, because the fate of the planet was more important than their individual/joint happiness. Anyway, that's what I've decided.

Agree or disagree?

Uber
May 28th, 2005, 03:46 PM
I think we did see that some with him. After she started seeing Pete, I noticed that Jack's character seemed a little "flat" through the rest of S7 and into S8. At first, I thought Rick was just kinda bored with what he was doing. In retrospect (and after seeing Threads), I've decided that Jack was retreating into himself. He thought he was losing Sam, and he was becoming bitter about not being able to have the woman he loved, because the fate of the planet was more important than their individual/joint happiness. Anyway, that's what I've decided.

Agree or disagree?
I think back to the elevator scene in Chimera.

She's humming and at first he's surprised...but then there's a look of recognition and dare I say regret when he realizes the reason for the humming...

Emilee108
May 28th, 2005, 04:45 PM
Joe just responded to this question in his thread....

Originally Posted by sg-1fanintn
Joe.....didn't putting John and Aeryn together in "Farscape" open up new adventures for them? Couldn't it do the same for Sam & Jack, once one of them becomes a civilian? Aren't there still enough intergalactic threats to Earth that Sam & Jack would be compelled to go off-world together.....for the good of us all?

Joe's answer....

Needless to say that with the cast changes this year, any mention of a possible Jack-Sam relationship would be limited to off-screen allusions.




Hmmmm....is this a good thing? I can't decide.


~*~Emilee~*~

ses110
May 28th, 2005, 04:59 PM
IMO RDA played it right.Jack as General was stuck doing paper work all Day and not with SG-1 anymore and with Sam being engaged to Pete I cannot see Jack walking around with a smile on his Face.

Uber
May 28th, 2005, 05:04 PM
Joe just responded to this question in his thread....

Originally Posted by sg-1fanintn
Joe.....didn't putting John and Aeryn together in "Farscape" open up new adventures for them? Couldn't it do the same for Sam & Jack, once one of them becomes a civilian? Aren't there still enough intergalactic threats to Earth that Sam & Jack would be compelled to go off-world together.....for the good of us all?

Joe's answer....

Needless to say that with the cast changes this year, any mention of a possible Jack-Sam relationship would be limited to off-screen allusions.




Hmmmm....is this a good thing? I can't decide.


~*~Emilee~*~
It's a good thing.

It means the concept is still alive even though one of the leads involved is not there.

Plus later on he alleviates concerns of Sam maybe getting involved with someone else in Season 9....


Hello Joe,

I'm confused in previous answers you have mentioned that the resolution to S/J relation was obvious after S8.

For us shippers it is obvious that Sam and Jack are together specially after Threads and that that is how S9 will start.

So why a romantic interest for Sam?

Who said anything about a romantic interest for Sam in season 9?

Watters87
May 28th, 2005, 05:07 PM
Joe Mallozzi just posted this [The Fourth Horseman] That Sean Patrick Flannery will not be playing Orlin again in The Fourth Horseman I and II. Instead, the part will be played by Cameron Bright. And there's a very good reason Orlin's appearance has changed.

Does this mean no Orlin or just that the actor playing Orlin has changed.:S

sg1rox
May 28th, 2005, 06:41 PM
I just happened by this posting on the Stargate SG-1 Solutions blog. I think they got it from Joe's blog, here on Gateworld. I'm not sure though. I'm a tad out of it (sick with a cold, ear infection & etc) & way behind on EVERYTHING, including the posts here. So if this was talked about earlier, sorry. I thought it a tad interesting & wanted to share w/ my fellow shippers :) ...


Mallozzi continued in his blog entry: “We cut Ex Deus Machina (Chris Judge did such a great job that I immediately went down to set after watching the Director’s cut and told him as much) and Paul cut Instinct [Stargate Atlantis episode] while I started beating out an outline for our next script (tentatively titled ”Convergence") that, if all goes as planned, may see the return of a much-loved, sorely-missed character.

Now, I'm wondering if the "much-loved, sorely-missed character" is Jack (RDA) :D ... Plus I find the tentative title interesting. To converge means (from the American Heritage Dictionary) "to tend or move toward a common point or result." Though the title (& episode) may have nothing to do w/ S/J, my little shippy heart would LOVE to believe in a "Convergence" of S/J ;) ... LOL... But, most likely, it has something to do w/ the Jaffa & the whole thing w/ the Ori (or whatever)... But it would be supper COOL :cool: if the "much-loved, sorely-missed character" is Jack (RDA)! I miss him already & season 9 hasn't even started yet! :(

So... What do you guys think? :confused:

Uber
May 28th, 2005, 07:12 PM
I just happened by this posting on the Stargate SG-1 Solutions blog. I think they got it from Joe's blog, here on Gateworld. I'm not sure though. I'm a tad out of it (sick with a cold, ear infection & etc) & way behind on EVERYTHING, including the posts here. So if this was talked about earlier, sorry. I thought it a tad interesting & wanted to share w/ my fellow shippers :) ...



Now, I'm wondering if the "much-loved, sorely-missed character" is Jack (RDA) :D ... Plus I find the tentative title interesting. To converge means (from the American Heritage Dictionary) "to tend or move toward a common point or result." Though the title (& episode) may have nothing to do w/ S/J, my little shippy heart would LOVE to believe in a "Convergence" of S/J ;) ... LOL... But, most likely, it has something to do w/ the Jaffa & the whole thing w/ the Ori (or whatever)... But it would be supper COOL :cool: if the "much-loved, sorely-missed character" is Jack (RDA)! I miss him already & season 9 hasn't even started yet! :(

So... What do you guys think? :confused:
Season 9 Speculation.....








My sense was that they are talking about Fraiser...but that's just a guess based on other comments from previous posts on that thread...

girlgater
May 28th, 2005, 07:17 PM
I think we did see that some with him. After she started seeing Pete, I noticed that Jack's character seemed a little "flat" through the rest of S7 and into S8. At first, I thought Rick was just kinda bored with what he was doing. In retrospect (and after seeing Threads), I've decided that Jack was retreating into himself. He thought he was losing Sam, and he was becoming bitter about not being able to have the woman he loved, because the fate of the planet was more important than their individual/joint happiness. Anyway, that's what I've decided.

Agree or disagree?

Oh, I definitely agree that Jack seemed distracted and somewhat angry after Sam became interested in someone else. I only meant that we didn't get to see him dealing with his unhappiness at Sam's relationship as openly as we did Sam debating with herself on whether or not she should wait for Jack. His mood the rest of S7 and for most of S8 was much darker than we had seen before.

ses110
May 28th, 2005, 09:18 PM
Finally some good News from TPTB in regards to JM comments about a Romantic interest for Sam.I think TPTB are smart enough to know the Sam character would be finished if Sam has a Boyfriend that is not Jack.Some People might like it but Sam and Jack are linked together and it's too late to change that fact.In regards to the much missed character I have a feeling it's Janet.I loved the Janet character but I rather have Jack.IMO it's becoming clear that we have not seen the last of RDA and Jack.I get the feeling RDA does not want Jack to be remembered for Moebius and a small guest spot in episodes 1 and 3 in Season 9.IMO Moebius left a Bad impression on RDA and many of the Fans.I really hope RDA will appear in some late Season 9 episodes.If not Season 10.I may have to start rooting for Season 9.If I knew RDA would be appearing in late Season 9 I may even have to watch some of the episodes.This is all speculation and I'am trying not to get my hopes up.

majorsal
May 28th, 2005, 09:59 PM
Joe just responded to this question in his thread....

Originally Posted by sg-1fanintn
Joe.....didn't putting John and Aeryn together in "Farscape" open up new adventures for them? Couldn't it do the same for Sam & Jack, once one of them becomes a civilian? Aren't there still enough intergalactic threats to Earth that Sam & Jack would be compelled to go off-world together.....for the good of us all?

Joe's answer....

Needless to say that with the cast changes this year, any mention of a possible Jack-Sam relationship would be limited to off-screen allusions.




Hmmmm....is this a good thing? I can't decide.


~*~Emilee~*~

YIPPPEEEEE! :D

we've got hope, shippers, big, fat, honkin' hope!!! i can take an off-screen relay, because the alternative is NO relay!!! :D

:D


sally :D

majorsal
May 28th, 2005, 10:05 PM
It's a good thing.

It means the concept is still alive even though one of the leads involved is not there.

Plus later on he alleviates concerns of Sam maybe getting involved with someone else in Season 9....


Originally Posted by JMallozzi
Who said anything about a romantic interest for Sam in season 9?





YAY again! :D

no love interests for sam (other than our beefcake jack)! :D


sally :D

Myrth
May 28th, 2005, 10:11 PM
Great minds sweetheart... great minds which are fools for this kinda love... ;)




I've finally finished my pic mini series based on Chevroneight's quote.

"Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away and all the things I want to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I only hope my eyes will speak my heart."


Silence - Pt 1 (http://img133.echo.cx/img133/2788/silence49ko.png)
Silence - Pt 2 (http://img206.echo.cx/img206/1153/silence34qo.png)
Silence - Pt 3 (http://img157.echo.cx/img157/1914/silence26uq.png)
Silence - Pt 4 (http://img229.echo.cx/img229/1908/silence16bi.png)


Myrth - I couldn't find another picture to sum it all up! So I'll leave it up to you to decide - great minds or fools :p

majorsal
May 28th, 2005, 10:13 PM
Joe Mallozzi just posted this [The Fourth Horseman] That Sean Patrick Flannery will not be playing Orlin again in The Fourth Horseman I and II. Instead, the part will be played by Cameron Bright. And there's a very good reason Orlin's appearance has changed.

Does this mean no Orlin or just that the actor playing Orlin has changed.:S

i went and read joe's answers. ;)

spoilers for s9's the fourth horseman
i looked up who cameron bright is... here's the link for him.

http://us.imdb.com/name/nm1080974/

i have to say, i have *absolutely* no fears of ship between them. :p


sally :D

Myrth
May 28th, 2005, 10:21 PM
One would hope not Majorsal... coz I watch SVU & that would qualify as plot fodder for that show. Of course Sam's been through the whole thing with mini!jack. God knows that warranted some exploration of her reaction, dear god that would be almost worse than him dying for her... lol.

;)

I've found all of Joe's current comments to be quite positive actually. Shows they haven't forgotten that they kinda tied Jack & Sam together at the end of 8 and allusions off screen.... I like that phrase... :D

On the other aspect For the return of a much loved character. My first thought was Janet, but then I started thinking maybe Jacob.... either way it'll be cool.

Grace O'Neill
May 28th, 2005, 10:34 PM
Hey SHIPPERS!!!......I would thunk this great shippy picture but its really BIG......So here ya go...... :D ;) Sam and Jack,there so good together!!! (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/ElectoralCollage/wp_photo_2.jpg)


AncientKnowledge,

All I can say is WOW WOW WOW WOW!!!!! :D :D :D

I love what you did with these pictures. Thanks for sharing!!!

ses110
May 28th, 2005, 10:39 PM
Indeed.Things are looking up.That's one less Man Friend to worry about.Maybe the worm has turned for the Shippers.

LadyJeep
May 28th, 2005, 11:38 PM
I think we did see that some with him. After she started seeing Pete, I noticed that Jack's character seemed a little "flat" through the rest of S7 and into S8. At first, I thought Rick was just kinda bored with what he was doing. In retrospect (and after seeing Threads), I've decided that Jack was retreating into himself. He thought he was losing Sam, and he was becoming bitter about not being able to have the woman he loved, because the fate of the planet was more important than their individual/joint happiness. Anyway, that's what I've decided.

Agree or disagree?
I know I'm a little late but I just had to respond and say that I totally agree with you. I always thought that the change in the Jack was related to Sam's relationship with Pete and not RDA's boredom. I saw it as Jack's anger at himself for not doing something about the way he felt about Sam sooner and a little bit at Sam for not seeing that he was still carrying a torch for her. He's always been emotionally challenged and has a very difficult time expressing his. And even though in D & C he agreed to keep what was SAID in that room, I don't think he meant to leave how they FELT there. I firmly believe that Jack so loves Sam. :D

sg1rox
May 29th, 2005, 12:24 AM
In regards to Jack seeming "darker" after Sam was seeing Pete...

I TOTALY agree :D & think that one of the places it was most evident (IMO) was during the scene in Carter's lab, in Affinity (season 8), when she told O'Neill about Pete's proposal. :( It was like he was trying to play it off at 1st. Like he had no problem with it. Was even, in a way, arguing for her to accept the proposal (the whole dangers of going through the gate, having a family & working at the SGC conversation). But the way he handled the ring (IMO), seemed to show how uncomfortable he was with the whole thing. The way he snaped it shut, placed it on the table & nudged it away w/ his finger. It was like he was touching something loathsome to him... But, of course, that's just my take on the whole thing... :)

LadyJeep
May 29th, 2005, 12:30 AM
In regards to Jack seeming "darker" after Sam was seeing Pete...

I TOTALY agree :D & think that one of the places it was most evident (IMO) was during the scene in Carter's lab, in Affinity (season 8), when she told O'Neill about Pete's proposal. :( It was like he was trying to play it off at 1st. Like he had no problem with it. Was even, in a way, arguing for her to accept the proposal (the whole dangers of going through the gate, having a family & working at the SGC conversation). But the way he handled the ring (IMO), seemed to show how uncomfortable he was with the whole thing. The way he snaped it shut, placed it on the table & nudged it away w/ his finger. It was like he was touching something loathsome to him... But, of course, that's just my take on the whole thing... :)
That's what I thought when I saw that ep. I also got the feeling that Sam was trying to get Jack to give her something that would let her know whether she should say yes or no to Pete.

lonely_star
May 29th, 2005, 05:26 AM
hi my family !!!!
sorry I've been gone for a while, I'm back in France now :( i'm gonna miss the US so much ! :(
I'm glad to be here again but I have soooooooooo much stuff to read !!! don't think I could do that and answer today too ! but I just want to say that I've seen some splendid stuff in this first page !!! I'm gonna spread some green jello now !!!
talking about that I tried jello for the first time just before leaving!! it wasn't blue unfortunately ;) I don't really understand how you can eat that !! you guys are crazy !!! :D mine was jello shot ;) :p

see you all guys very soon and I've just read Joe's thread and I'm so upset !!!! can't believe what he said about not dealing with how they resolve the regs thing :S

gonna read now
any new good fic ??
see you all very soon and glad to be back !!!!!! :)

Myrth
May 29th, 2005, 05:45 AM
I was just watching Entity and I have a question. Am I imagining that Jack was trying to say 'I love you' just before he shot Carter for the second time??


:D

shipper hannah
May 29th, 2005, 05:53 AM
welcome home lonely_star!
:) :)

dmovies
May 29th, 2005, 06:55 AM
That's what I thought when I saw that ep. I also got the feeling that Sam was trying to get Jack to give her something that would let her know whether she should say yes or no to Pete.
I not only agree with what he was trying to convey with his performance, but I found no fault with the O'Neil character thru all of season 8. The only time he really got intense was with anger or protecting his team. All other times he played the 'good ole boy' who just didn't get riled up. I loved every minute we had with Jack O'Neill in seaosn 8 and definately plan on buying season 8 on dvd. Season 9-that a big ???????

Oma-1
May 29th, 2005, 08:35 AM
Great minds sweetheart... great minds which are fools for this kinda love... ;)
LMAO! I like the way you put that :D (((((Myrth)))))

blueiris
May 29th, 2005, 08:39 AM
I was just watching Entity and I have a question. Am I imagining that Jack was trying to say 'I love you' just before he shot Carter for the second time??


:D
Of course he was. He's been trying to tell her that for years. ;)

marimba26
May 29th, 2005, 08:48 AM
(I think Token herself had made a gif of the Grace kiss… I have caps, but never layed them into a gif…)

Yup! She sure did! It's here...

http://www.marimba26.com/JackandSamAlways

Just follow the links through "Marimba's vids", she's on the page labelled "SG-1 Team vids, Snark and Gifs". She has other gifs as well!

Also [shameless website plug] if you haven't been there lately, I've posted vids by Christy (our own getcarter), Melyanna, Sache8 and Tame! Plus, there are lots of new vids for other shows (BSG, Atlantis, etc). [/shameless website plug]

Enjoy! :D

Edited to add--Nice to see you again, Shimmer! :D

Oma-1
May 29th, 2005, 08:51 AM
i went and read joe's answers. ;)

spoilers for s9's the fourth horseman
i looked up who cameron bright is... here's the link for him.

http://us.imdb.com/name/nm1080974/

i have to say, i have *absolutely* no fears of ship between them. :p


sally :D
LMAO - again! Yep, no fear there Sal :p

Just goes to show how wound up we get when we see spoilers - and then how unfounded our fears were! I think our reactions are so predictable to tptb and they reel us (well, me anyway) in every time :rolleyes: Joe's answer to my question and TN's questions is just a case in point. Initially Joe's answers left some of us completely depressed or just plain http://bestsmileys.com/paranoid/1.gif, and now he's mentioned "allusions" (love the way that word sounds :p) we're all happy again :)

This fandom stuff's real rollercoaster *shakes head*. Wish I'd found it seasons ago :p

lonely_star
May 29th, 2005, 08:52 AM
wow I'm done reading everything I missed and I have to say that you had great discussions and fan works.!! congrats to all of you! I need to spread some love before being able to give green to some of you like Florence, Oma, Shimmeringstar but I love you all !!!!! :) :D

hi to all the newbies and I'm gonna read your fics now ST_1, I'm very excited because everybody was pleased with them! so thanks in advance!!

got a question, any news from the virtual season9 ?? has anyone started?

about the latest news, I think it's pretty cool that JM starts answering some shippy questions (and I don't say that because he answered all my questions, that's so cool by the way!) but at least we have some indications even if they sometimes are different from what we were expecting

the news about RDA given by (((((((Oma)))))) are positive IMO and make me hope until we hear more about him and the possibility to see him again in more than cameos

I'm sorry I missed so many birthdays! but I hope you all enjoyed cake and had great presents!!
thanks for all the pics and wonderful words going with them! I have so much fun with you all guys! !!



((((((((Shipper Family )))))))))) let's ship !!!!

sclairef99
May 29th, 2005, 09:26 AM
I think we did see that some with him. After she started seeing Pete, I noticed that Jack's character seemed a little "flat" through the rest of S7 and into S8. At first, I thought Rick was just kinda bored with what he was doing. In retrospect (and after seeing Threads), I've decided that Jack was retreating into himself. He thought he was losing Sam, and he was becoming bitter about not being able to have the woman he loved, because the fate of the planet was more important than their individual/joint happiness. Anyway, that's what I've decided.

Agree or disagree?

Great Sig SG-1Fanitin!!!

Actually, I didn't think Jack was flat. I think when he became General - RDA did play him a bit on the grumpy, overwhelmed side....but good 'ol Jack was still around trying to be objective about everything, including Sam - I think there were times when RDA played Jack's hurt to Sam, but most of the time, I think he was just being Jack or overwhelmed General Jack....

Just MHO....

S

Oma-1
May 29th, 2005, 10:12 AM
girlgater Jack was acting way weird as Sam left. Definitely very melancholy and remorseful--I thought. I think Jack went through a period where he felt trapped just as Sam did. Except we saw her "giving up" or whatever in Grace. We just didn't see all the frustration with him as we did with Sam. It's a shame 'cause it would have made a good episode.

Yeah - a Grace ep from Jack's POV would have been fantastic. Or even just a slightly longer scene with Teal'c where he actually says something about his feelings!



I think we did see that some with him. After she started seeing Pete, I noticed that Jack's character seemed a little "flat" through the rest of S7 and into S8. At first, I thought Rick was just kinda bored with what he was doing. In retrospect (and after seeing Threads), I've decided that Jack was retreating into himself. He thought he was losing Sam, and he was becoming bitter about not being able to have the woman he loved, because the fate of the planet was more important than their individual/joint happiness. Anyway, that's what I've decided.

Agree or disagree?

I thought Jack's character did undergo a change after Chimera and the elevator scene, but I didn't feel he was flat. I thought he was showing a lot of pent up emotion around Sam, especially in Lost City. Then came another D&C moment where they looked at each other and told everything they felt - and pushed it aside again to save the planet.

In S8 I thought Jack was maybe more hurting and trying to hide it rather than bitter, hence the retreating into himself (I definitely agree with that bit :p). Sam was still trying to convince herself that she was doing the right thing by being with Pete. The Affinity scene Jack found painful, hence the clunk of the ring box and the rather deliberate pushing away of it. It smacked to me of "I really can't deal with this". I think Jack thought that Pete was better for her - young, not emotionally battered, sunny disposition, "normal", and so couldn't be completely honest with her. That scene was so full of unspoken words neither of them wanted to acknowledge.

An Ancient
May 29th, 2005, 10:25 AM
RE; Joe's comments in his thread.

Mwha! The shippers (sort of) win.!

ST-1
May 29th, 2005, 11:15 AM
hi to all the newbies and I'm gonna read your fics now ST_1, I'm very excited because everybody was pleased with them! so thanks in advance!!

Merci, mademoiselle! Dit-moi votre penses, s'il vous plait! Vive l'amour de Sam et Jack! :D

Okay, it's been awhile since my french classes, so I hope that made sense. :rolleyes: ;)

florence
May 29th, 2005, 11:31 AM
hi my family !!!!
sorry I've been gone for a while, I'm back in France now :( i'm gonna miss the US so much ! :(
I'm glad to be here again but I have soooooooooo much stuff to read !!! don't think I could do that and answer today too ! but I just want to say that I've seen some splendid stuff in this first page !!! I'm gonna spread some green jello now !!!
talking about that I tried jello for the first time just before leaving!! it wasn't blue unfortunately ;) I don't really understand how you can eat that !! you guys are crazy !!! :D mine was jello shot ;) :p

see you all guys very soon and I've just read Joe's thread and I'm so upset !!!! can't believe what he said about not dealing with how they resolve the regs thing :S

gonna read now
any new good fic ??
see you all very soon and glad to be back !!!!!! :)

Welcome home lonely_star ! :D
So you really tried jello before leaving ? Well, if that's not dedication to the show, I don't know what it is ! :p
And congrats : JM answered your 2 questions :)

lonely_star
May 29th, 2005, 11:46 AM
Merci, mademoiselle! Dit-moi votre penses, s'il vous plait! Vive l'amour de Sam et Jack! :D

Okay, it's been awhile since my french classes, so I hope that made sense. :rolleyes: ;)

nice try!! your french is pretty good! you should visit us on the parlez-vous francais thread

I'm reading your fic called catalyst, it's pretty cool! I like it so far and I can't wait til the end...I'm suffering with Sam...ouch it certainly hurst :D
gonna read the end now! thanks again ;)

lonely_star
May 29th, 2005, 11:50 AM
Welcome home lonely_star ! :D
So you really tried jello before leaving ? Well, if that's not dedication to the show, I don't know what it is ! :p
And congrats : JM answered your 2 questions :)

yep !! I still can feel this horrible sensation in my mouth !!! :D :D :D i'm not sure I'll ever eat that again !! at least now I'll feel different each time I see Sam eating jello !! :rolleyes:

we don't have a shippy jello do we ? you know like we have the cookies, the diet doc shipper and now the ice cream! lol we should do something for that !!! :p

fics waiting for me guys! see ya later and SAM & JACK TOGETHER FOREVER !! ;)

Oma-1
May 29th, 2005, 12:27 PM
yep !! I still can feel this horrible sensation in my mouth !!! :D :D :D i'm not sure I'll ever eat that again !! at least now I'll feel different each time I see Sam eating jello !! :rolleyes:

we don't have a shippy jello do we ? you know like we have the cookies, the diet doc shipper and now the ice cream! lol we should do something for that !!! :p

fics waiting for me guys! see ya later and SAM & JACK TOGETHER FOREVER !! ;)
((((Lonely Star)))) I tried to welcome you back with some green jello :p but the dispenser is empty at the moment.

Great idea for the shipper jello! The BIG question, is what colour? Red for Jack, Blue for Sam - or do we go with purple for ship? :p .... which reminds me of a jello ff to hunt out for ya ;)

Lord Zedd
May 29th, 2005, 12:33 PM
Hello everybody how are you? It has been a long time since I have been here. Had lot of work to do for school. And my grand father has passed away. I needed to sort things out a bit. :( but now I am back :D Have you missed me? Probably not :D But things are very hectic for now and soon I have lots of tests but I'll try to keep visiting. By the way I have made a new forum myself and I am looking for some members so if you wish to join ;)

Oma-1
May 29th, 2005, 12:46 PM
Course we missed you _Anubis (((((HUGS)))))

Was hunting for pics of jello and came across this ....


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/Oma-1/jello.jpg

Very appropriate for Gateworld :p

nell
May 29th, 2005, 12:47 PM
I was just watching Entity and I have a question. Am I imagining that Jack was trying to say 'I love you' just before he shot Carter for the second time??


:D

I don't know about that scene. But, did I imagine Jack saying 'love you' in Divide and Conquer when Jack and Sam were on either side of the Goa'uld ship forcefield? :) You know where they are desperately and piercingly looking deep into each other's eyes as the C-4 count down progresses and the Jaffa are headed towards Sam.

nell
May 29th, 2005, 01:03 PM
Big, honkin' thank yous to all of you gals who sent in questions to JM. I think he enjoys replying to shippers. He seems nondefensive though vague. I feel hopeful when he uses words like "allusions" and his reference to Season 9 Sam's not having a new relationship implying beyond her relationship as it were with Jack. :D

Allusions? Mmmm!?! What might an allusion look like on the screen? ;)


I may change my signature now :) that I have reason to believe that TPTB are not entirely evil!!! :rolleyes:

ST-1
May 29th, 2005, 01:07 PM
I don't know about that scene. But, did I imagine Jack saying 'love you' in Divide and Conquer when Jack and Sam were on either side of the Goa'uld ship forcefield? :) You know where they are desperately and piercingly looking deep into each other's eyes as the C-4 count down progresses and the Jaffa are headed towards Sam.


I was thinking the same thing about the scene in Lost City Pt. 2, when Sam is begging him to hold on. He moves his mouth a few times, but nothing comes out.
Was THAT an "I love you?" ;)

:D

nell
May 29th, 2005, 01:20 PM
I was thinking the same thing about the scene in Lost City Pt. 2, when Sam is begging him to hold on. He moves his mouth a few times, but nothing comes out.
Was THAT an "I love you?" ;)

:D

When will Season 7 episodes be on the air? I will definitely look for that! :)

Actually, if I get real *I hate when reality bites* but if he ever said that in any of the scenes, wouldn't we have been certain a long time ago? :S

Ouch, why did I do that? I just spoiled my fantasies!!! :(

Oma-1
May 29th, 2005, 02:07 PM
When will Season 7 episodes be on the air? I will definitely look for that! :)

Actually, if I get real *I hate when reality bites* but if he ever said that in any of the scenes, wouldn't we have been certain a long time ago? :S

Ouch, why did I do that? I just spoiled my fantasies!!! :(
IMHO, it's what Jack WANTED to say, what he WOULD have said regs permitting, and what we all know he FELT.

However, my homework is to watch Entity, D&C and Lost City - just to be sure ;)

*shakes head - the trials of being a shipper*

An Ancient
May 29th, 2005, 02:29 PM
Having watched Lost City, he does say 'tu amata', which means... you guessed it.

And for reference, I recorded the sound, and ran it through a speech analyser, it said that it was 'tu amataa'. There you go.

florence
May 29th, 2005, 02:37 PM
Having watched Lost City, he does say 'tu amata', which means... you guessed it.

And for reference, I recorded the sound, and ran it through a speech analyser, it said that it was 'tu amataa'. There you go.

Thanks ! Now we have scientific proofs ! :D

nell
May 29th, 2005, 02:40 PM
Having watched Lost City, he does say 'tu amata', which means... you guessed it.

And for reference, I recorded the sound, and ran it through a speech analyser, it said that it was 'tu amataa'. There you go.


Let's see if I can apply some of that French and German I studied , and a little stretch gets me Tu=you Amata=amour/amore= love? :D

florence
May 29th, 2005, 02:44 PM
Let's see if I can apply some of that French and German I studied , and a little stretch gets me Tu=you Amata=amour/amore= love? :D

I think it would be more Latin than French or German, but you're right : the right traduction could be 'love you' :D

nell
May 29th, 2005, 02:52 PM
I think it would be more Latin than French or German, but you're right : the right traduction could be 'love you' :D

The scientist in me went to Gateworld's Lost City transcripts. Jack says Dolmata. I then went to Google and some Latin scholar types say that is typo. Jack said Dormata which is 'sleep.' He went to the stasis chamber to be in suspended animation until rescued by Thor. He 'slept.'

I like An Ancient's interpretation but I think it turns out to be 'sleep.' ;)

Oma-1
May 29th, 2005, 02:55 PM
Having watched Lost City, he does say 'tu amata', which means... you guessed it.

And for reference, I recorded the sound, and ran it through a speech analyser, it said that it was 'tu amataa'. There you go.
((((An Ancient)))) I'm definitely gonna have to watch LC now :D

florence
May 29th, 2005, 02:57 PM
The scientist in me went to Gateworld's Lost City transcripts. Jack says Dolmata. I then went to Google and some Latin scholar types say that is typo. Jack said Dormata which is 'sleep.' He went to the stasis chamber to be in suspended animation until rescued by Thor. He 'slept.'

I like An Ancient's interpretation but I think it turns out to be 'sleep.' ;)

Yes I know but a girl can dream ;) :D

Oma-1
May 29th, 2005, 03:00 PM
The jello is ready* :D


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/Oma-1/jello2.jpg

And for your entertainment while you eat, here's a lovely little jello story.
Jello Evasion (http://www.sjhw.net/ac/jello.htm)

Enjoy :D

*still hunting for the purple stuff

florence
May 29th, 2005, 03:17 PM
The jello is ready* :D


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/Oma-1/jello2.jpg

And for your entertainment while you eat, here's a lovely little jello story.
Jello Evasion (http://www.sjhw.net/ac/jello.htm)

Enjoy :D

*still hunting for the purple stuff

Yeah, now we have Ship Jello to add to Ship cookies :D

Funny story ! :D

nell
May 29th, 2005, 03:18 PM
The jello is ready* :D


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/Oma-1/jello2.jpg

And for your entertainment while you eat, here's a lovely little jello story.
Jello Evasion (http://www.sjhw.net/ac/jello.htm)

Enjoy :D

*still hunting for the purple stuff

Thanks, I loved it! :D ;)

Oma-1
May 29th, 2005, 04:23 PM
And finally ....


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/Oma-1/jelload.jpg


Now I've eaten so much jello and ice cream I've got tummy ache :( Where's the shipto bismol? :p

AncientKnowledge
May 29th, 2005, 04:52 PM
The jello is ready* :D


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/Oma-1/jello2.jpg

And for your entertainment while you eat, here's a lovely little jello story.
Jello Evasion (http://www.sjhw.net/ac/jello.htm)

Enjoy :D

*still hunting for the purple stuff

Oy me! The old shipper Jello....I love it,thanks 'Oma-1'! :)

nell
May 29th, 2005, 05:06 PM
Here goes, I'm testing out my new signature while the traffic is low at this time. Wish me luck! This is my second signature and I may have forgotten what to do! :o

Oma-1
May 29th, 2005, 05:17 PM
Here goes, I'm testing out my new signature while the traffic is low at this time. Wish me luck! This is my second signature and I may have forgotten what to do! :o
Nell, you just need to finish the pic address - it should read http://photobucket.com/albums/y209/cilljill/image36091.jpg inside the img brackets. You can just copy and paste the address from the Img box underneath the pic in your photobucket album.:)

Oma-1
May 29th, 2005, 05:32 PM
Congratulations! Nice pic, by the way :D

nell
May 29th, 2005, 05:33 PM
Nell, you just need to finish the pic address - it should read http://photobucket.com/albums/y209/cilljill/image36091.jpg inside the img brackets. You can just copy and paste the address from the Img box underneath the pic in your photobucket album.:)


Thanks, Oma-1, I think I got it! Here goes! :eek:

P.S. Do I have to acknowledge where I got that signature cap? I collect them but I admit that I don't take the time to organize from whence and whom they came from. :o

Catysg1
May 29th, 2005, 05:37 PM
From the Futon critic, the web's best primetime television resource , here is a link promoting season 9 SG1 and season 2 Atlantis . Scroll down .

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/cgi/newswire.cgi?id=6912

Caty :)

Catysg1
May 29th, 2005, 05:46 PM
Big, honkin' thank yous to all of you gals who sent in questions to JM. I think he enjoys replying to shippers. He seems nondefensive though vague. I feel hopeful when he uses words like "allusions" and his reference to Season 9 Sam's not having a new relationship implying beyond her relationship as it were with Jack. :D

Allusions? Mmmm!?! What might an allusion look like on the screen? ;)


I may change my signature now :) that I have reason to believe that TPTB are not entirely evil!!! :rolleyes:


They are just probably half evil considering we won't see anything on screen and regarding the ship I don't think I'm too interested to have a line mentionned by Sam from time to time ..because deep down I will know it's TPTB's way of dangling the carrot in front of the shippers ..To be honest with me ...I like sci-fi yes big time ..but if there is ship ..I need to see it on screen ..I need the 2 characters to interact and mostly when it is part of the story line ...I'm not that keen on just a little line in passing to see how the other one ( character) is doing ..I find that a plot device more than anything else .
Shame that such a great show had to carry on for another year :( instead of leaving on a high note .

Caty :)

Catysg1
May 29th, 2005, 05:48 PM
Having watched Lost City, he does say 'tu amata', which means... you guessed it.

And for reference, I recorded the sound, and ran it through a speech analyser, it said that it was 'tu amataa'. There you go.


Tu Amata means I love you but Jack says "Dormata" in the lost city which means sleep :)


so They all put in to sleep in the pod as he asked :(

Caty :)

nell
May 29th, 2005, 05:56 PM
They are just probably half evil considering we won't see anything on screen and regarding the ship I don't think I'm too interested to have a line mentionned by Sam from time to time ..because deep down I will know it's TPTB's way of dangling the carrot in front of the shippers ..To be honest with me ...I like sci-fi yes big time ..but if there is ship ..I need to see it on screen ..I need the 2 characters to interact and mostly when it is part of the story line ...I'm not that keen on just a little line in passing to see how the other one ( character) is doing ..I find that a plot device more than anything else .
Shame that such a great show had to carry on for another year :( instead of leaving on a high note .

Caty :)

I guess we'll have to see for ourselves in July. I got more than I hoped for in Season 8 although it took almost to the end of the season to get as much as we did. I'm not quite ready to call it quits when JM's veiled comments lead my imagination to think TPTB will give us a little bit in Season 9. I am a hopeless romantic. :rolleyes:

Catysg1
May 29th, 2005, 06:07 PM
I 'm a hopeless romantic too ..My videos show that but I just gave up on the Sam and Jack ship ..As you said we will see but I don't have high hope of seeing or even hearing something romantic regarding the Sam and Jack ship in season 9 ..To me it looks like ..... it will be a little secret from TPTB .They may whisper it ..It could always come from Daniel's mouth right at the end of the finale episode saying that Sam and Jack have gone on their honeymoon .
This is perhaps what I will expect to see or hear now .I won't be happy that's for sure but I don't really care ..I think they (TPTB) have left it too long ..They dangled the carrots too many times and I got really bored so now I take what I got from Threads and I supppose this is the end ..Jack said "Always " and to me it means they are together forever and an item .
I would love to see more but I think we 'll see Nada ...It's done deal for TPTB ...and the new team is on and that is all what matters for them :eek:

Caty :)

nell
May 29th, 2005, 06:28 PM
Caty,

I am familiar with your beautiful videos! You kept some of us going even when it looked bleak last season. Thanks!

I haven't quite given up hope. I do enjoy the action and adventure so that keeps me interested especially now that Ben Browder has joined the cast. I really liked Ben in Farscape. BTW I think the Farscape TPTB handled the UST and RST pretty well considering it was a 4 season show. When there was passion on Farscape it was great! :p :D

LOL4JACK
May 29th, 2005, 06:35 PM
Tu Amata means I love you but Jack says "Dormata" in the lost city which means sleep :)


so They all put in to sleep in the pod as he asked :(

Caty :)
OK, so he says To sleep = to dream and he says that to Sam... so basically....

That he will be dreaming of Sam until he wakes up !!!!!! :p :p :p

Berry Shippy....

(((((((((((((((((((OMA))))))))))))))) no words to explain the jello... love it....

PS: I can see by know that most of you have read it, but I can't believe Joe answered to one of my question, the first Q answered... I feel so honored and such a shippy question :P http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=4269534&postcount=1157

nell
May 29th, 2005, 06:45 PM
OK, so he says To sleep = to dream and he says that to Sam... so basically....

That he will be dreaming of Sam until he wakes up !!!!!! :p :p :p

Berry Shippy....

(((((((((((((((((((OMA))))))))))))))) no words to explain the jello... love it....

PS: I can see by know that most of you have read it, but I can't believe Joe answered to one of my question, the first Q answered... I feel so honored and such a shippy question :P http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=4269534&postcount=1157


Thanks for your question to JM who gave us alot of info with his brief answer!! :D ;)

LadyJeep
May 29th, 2005, 06:52 PM
Yeah - a Grace ep from Jack's POV would have been fantastic. Or even just a slightly longer scene with Teal'c where he actually says something about his feelings!



I thought Jack's character did undergo a change after Chimera and the elevator scene, but I didn't feel he was flat. I thought he was showing a lot of pent up emotion around Sam, especially in Lost City. Then came another D&C moment where they looked at each other and told everything they felt - and pushed it aside again to save the planet.

In S8 I thought Jack was maybe more hurting and trying to hide it rather than bitter, hence the retreating into himself (I definitely agree with that bit :p). Sam was still trying to convince herself that she was doing the right thing by being with Pete. The Affinity scene Jack found painful, hence the clunk of the ring box and the rather deliberate pushing away of it. It smacked to me of "I really can't deal with this". I think Jack thought that Pete was better for her - young, not emotionally battered, sunny disposition, "normal", and so couldn't be completely honest with her. That scene was so full of unspoken words neither of them wanted to acknowledge.
I totally agree with you, Oma. I think I yelled at the TV screen for Jack to say something and not let the moment go by, but you know how Jack is.

girlgater
May 29th, 2005, 07:08 PM
Hi Shipper Family *waves to family*

Boy, I leave for a day trip with the family and then have posts to catch up on. I love the shipper jello. It's something that I'm kinda surprised we didn't have already. Shipperberry is definitely my favorite.

I'm glad to hear that JM is hinting at "allusions." Here's hoping it means something significant.

I've also looked at the S2 publicity shots for SGA and am anxious for the S9 pub photos to come out for SG1. Although, it definitely won't be the same without RDA. It will also be interesting to see how they portray AT. I'm sure most of the emphasis will be on BB and CB.

Well, gotta run. Everyone take care and if you're in the US, have a safe and happy Memorial Day.

LadyJeep
May 29th, 2005, 07:22 PM
The jello is ready* :D


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/Oma-1/jello2.jpg

And for your entertainment while you eat, here's a lovely little jello story.
Jello Evasion (http://www.sjhw.net/ac/jello.htm)

Enjoy :D

*still hunting for the purple stuff
Loved the Jello AND the story. Thanks Oma.

sg-1fanintn
May 29th, 2005, 08:51 PM
Wow! Why weren't my ears burning.....I've been away all day, and had no idea that one of my comments had generated so much great discussion! I'm so honored! What interesting thoughts on why Jack acted the way he did in S7 and S8! And what smart people frequent this thread!

Since I've unsubscribed to JM's thread, I had no idea that he had responded to another of my questions (proving my theory that if he said anything worth knowing, one of you would post it here). I probably posted that one three weeks or so ago. I must say I'm much more pleased with what he said this time. But I'm still riding high on what Oma-1 posted from RCC in the Dreamwatch article, so I'm really in the stratosphere now!

I want to quote so many people that it would take an entire page to do so, so I guess I won't. But I particularly enjoyed these two posts, especially Majorsal's sheer joy:


YIPPPEEEEE! :D

we've got hope, shippers, big, fat, honkin' hope!!! i can take an off-screen relay, because the alternative is NO relay!!! :D

no love interests for sam (other than our beefcake jack)! :D

sally :D


LMAO - again! Yep, no fear there Sal :p

Just goes to show how wound up we get when we see spoilers - and then how unfounded our fears were! I think our reactions are so predictable to tptb and they reel us (well, me anyway) in every time :rolleyes: Joe's answer to my question and TN's questions is just a case in point. Initially Joe's answers left some of us completely depressed or just plain http://bestsmileys.com/paranoid/1.gif, and now he's mentioned "allusions" (love the way that word sounds :p) we're all happy again :)

This fandom stuff's real rollercoaster *shakes head*. Wish I'd found it seasons ago :p

And this really had me laughing!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/Oma-1/jelload.jpg

And Jello Evasion is my bedtime story for tonight. Thanks, Oma-1! Let's all gather tomorrow for more positive thoughts! And thanks also to the nice people who complimented my sig. Since it will become outdated on Wednesday, I have a new one ready to go. I'll probably put it up Monday or Tuesday. Sweet dreams!

Grace O'Neill
May 30th, 2005, 12:12 AM
Hi!

I just wanted to wish the family a very happy and safe Memorial Day!!!

Myrth
May 30th, 2005, 02:00 AM
Hee.. for a few pleasant days of ignorance I thought he had actually said "Love you" at the end of Lost City, just before he got frozen, but as it turns out he said "Aveo" but if you ignore reality, it sounds a lot like Love you, and they cut to Sam after he said it... ;)




OK, so he says To sleep = to dream and he says that to Sam... so basically....

That he will be dreaming of Sam until he wakes up !!!!!! :p :p :p

Berry Shippy....

(((((((((((((((((((OMA))))))))))))))) no words to explain the jello... love it....

PS: I can see by know that most of you have read it, but I can't believe Joe answered to one of my question, the first Q answered... I feel so honored and such a shippy question :P http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=4269534&postcount=1157

pinguino_89
May 30th, 2005, 10:19 AM
Excuse if this has been asked before, but I have a question: Where is this picture from?
I think I saw it in this forum, but I don't know where is it from. Can someone answer me, thanks.

http://www.angelfire.com/magic/le_monde_perdu/sjerfake01.jpg

florence
May 30th, 2005, 10:30 AM
It's a manip, made by Caty I think.
Too bad it doesn't come from a real episode :rolleyes:

An Ancient
May 30th, 2005, 11:34 AM
Methinks that Jack may have ad-libbed or something, after seeing the transcript, I ran it through the software again, and I listened hard, and got everyone in my house to listen hard.

The consensus is this;
Jack see's freeze chamber; Dormata
Jack in chair with Sam; Tu amata(a)
Jack about to be frozen; Aveo, amacus

I can see if I can get the actualy sounds and post them so we can all here, but the translations are (roughly, since my Latin is rusty);
1- Sleep
2- I love you (literally 'you, me loved')
3- Goodbye, beloved (second word sort of inferred, because its approximate but he's saying goodbye to his dear friends.

Well, there you go.

-Goes off to get sound files-

;-)

EDIT: When I get the files up you'll see, but if he said 'Dolmata' to Sam, then he needs Ancient lessons, the first vowel is most definitely an 'u' sound. not and 'o' sound.

nell
May 30th, 2005, 01:05 PM
Methinks that Jack may have ad-libbed or something, after seeing the transcript, I ran it through the software again, and I listened hard, and got everyone in my house to listen hard.

The consensus is this;
Jack see's freeze chamber; Dormata
Jack in chair with Sam; Tu amata(a)
Jack about to be frozen; Aveo, amacus

I can see if I can get the actualy sounds and post them so we can all here, but the translations are (roughly, since my Latin is rusty);
1- Sleep
2- I love you (literally 'you, me loved')
3- Goodbye, beloved (second word sort of inferred, because its approximate but he's saying goodbye to his dear friends.




Well, there you go.

-Goes off to get sound files-

;-)

EDIT: When I get the files up you'll see, but if he said 'Dolmata' to Sam, then he needs Ancient lessons, the first vowel is most definitely an 'u' sound. not and 'o' sound.

I admire your persistence!!! Good idea to get other listeners involved!!! I wish I had taped that episode so I could listen, too. ;)

girlgater
May 30th, 2005, 03:43 PM
I admire your persistence!!! Good idea to get other listeners involved!!! I wish I had taped that episode so I could listen, too. ;)

I've got it on DVD and will watch it later. It's really a shame (and I don't understand why) that the DVD's are not closed-captioned. It would help (not that I can or ever will speak Latin) to figure out what Jack is saying. ;)

sg-1fanintn
May 30th, 2005, 04:37 PM
Methinks that Jack may have ad-libbed or something, after seeing the transcript, I ran it through the software again, and I listened hard, and got everyone in my house to listen hard.

The consensus is this;
Jack see's freeze chamber; Dormata
Jack in chair with Sam; Tu amata(a)
Jack about to be frozen; Aveo, amacus

I can see if I can get the actualy sounds and post them so we can all here, but the translations are (roughly, since my Latin is rusty);
1- Sleep
2- I love you (literally 'you, me loved')
3- Goodbye, beloved (second word sort of inferred, because its approximate but he's saying goodbye to his dear friends.

Well, there you go.

-Goes off to get sound files-

;-)

EDIT: When I get the files up you'll see, but if he said 'Dolmata' to Sam, then he needs Ancient lessons, the first vowel is most definitely an 'u' sound. not and 'o' sound.

How exciting! Not having studied Latin, I guess that just 747'ed most of us. Ooh!!!! Can't wait to hear what you find! If you're right, TPTB are probably still laughing 'cause they slipped that in without any of us realizing it!

wynter
May 30th, 2005, 04:57 PM
wow you guys are good esp ancient, thank you for looking up the saying in latin for lost city!i thought he was saying some-thing for her,but daniel would have known maybe thats why he may have given a little look at the end of the episode, but why didn't he tell sam.

ok maybe going a little off key here, but wayhay i'm liking the ideas.

welcome bacl anubis i'm sorry to here of your loss.

wynterxx

Buc252
May 30th, 2005, 05:48 PM
I like what he said, and I agree with you about the future of our SHIP. As to what RCC said, that's more the tone I had hoped to hear from TPTB in talking about the new season!


I hate to say this and bring anybody down, but I get the feeling that we're being played, and played BIG TIME by RCC in this interview.

Think about it. The shippers have been PO'd in the past, especially by things he's said. So now, he comes up with this hearts-and-flowers interview where he gives us hope. But read between the lines: it's not telling us anything we didn't already know, and it shows no loyalty to writing or resolving the ship. It only deals with RDA and his *possible* return.

To me, this interview tells me they're finally starting to realize that they could be in trouble where losing audience is concerned and are desperate to get us back in front of the set. I sense no sincerity in this, only attempts at manipulation.

Sorry, just MO. Forgive what they've done to us this year in season 8 if you wish , but don't ever, ever forget. Personally, I'm sick of them thinking they can manipulate the shippers. :(

sclairef99
May 30th, 2005, 05:54 PM
I think back to the elevator scene in Chimera.

She's humming and at first he's surprised...but then there's a look of recognition and dare I say regret when he realizes the reason for the humming...

Ok Uber SG-1 Fan....

Loved your fic!!!! When are you going to write the next part after Eclipse?!!!! Keep on writing...you've got me hooked!

S :D

Buc252
May 30th, 2005, 06:01 PM
I think we did see that some with him. After she started seeing Pete, I noticed that Jack's character seemed a little "flat" through the rest of S7 and into S8. At first, I thought Rick was just kinda bored with what he was doing. In retrospect (and after seeing Threads), I've decided that Jack was retreating into himself. He thought he was losing Sam, and he was becoming bitter about not being able to have the woman he loved, because the fate of the planet was more important than their individual/joint happiness. Anyway, that's what I've decided.

Agree or disagree?

I agree, and I think it was compounded by the fact that he really, really, really hates riding a desk. The two things that made him happiest - Sam and going into the field - were taken from him at the same time. Add to that the fact that nobody seemed to be really caring if he was hurting from either event and you get a very depressed Jack. Think about it: did we ever once see a member of SG1 asking him if he was feeling overwelmed? Epecially in Zero Hour, for instance? They only seemed concerned with how things affected themselves.

When they were talking him into taking the position, they all promised they'd be there to help him, but I've sure seen little to none of it in S8. Maybe a bit with Teal'c . . .

Just MO, of course, but this is sort of a sore spot for me.

ShimmeringStar
May 30th, 2005, 06:12 PM
A flyby posting of some more Sam and Jack caps... these from season 6...
“Cure”
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/ShimmeringStar214/S6SG1/Curejacksam2.jpg

ShimmeringStar
May 30th, 2005, 06:12 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/ShimmeringStar214/S6SG1/Curejacksam3.jpg

ShimmeringStar
May 30th, 2005, 06:18 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/ShimmeringStar214/S6SG1/Curejacksam4.jpg

In response to the recent discussion, I'm not sure if IMOHO I'd say Jack was bitter. I think another spin that could be put on it was that he was doing the best he could to maintain a professional distance from all of his "family" (the SG1 team). Those frat regs that had kept him apart from Sam all those years applied equally to his friendships too. Some days it was easier for him to do it, other days not. (Like when he had to order the destruction of the ship Sam was in.)

ShimmeringStar
May 30th, 2005, 06:19 PM
From Descent (S6):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/ShimmeringStar214/S6SG1/Descentsamjack1.jpg

Buc252
May 30th, 2005, 06:20 PM
I've got it on DVD and will watch it later. It's really a shame (and I don't understand why) that the DVD's are not closed-captioned. It would help (not that I can or ever will speak Latin) to figure out what Jack is saying. ;)

I agree with your frustration over the R1 DVD's not being subtitled/closed captioned. Not just for non-English speakers, but for people who are hearing impaired. It's rather inconsiderate of them to not think of it this far. (And yes, I tried putting them in a DVD player with a TV that has CC turned on, and there's still no text.)

Yet the R2 DVD's have subtitles. Another "extra" they get that the Americans don't. I know JM said he has no control over the DVD's, but I wish somebody would come on here who does so we could talk to him/her.

ShimmeringStar
May 30th, 2005, 06:20 PM
From Prometheus (S6):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/ShimmeringStar214/S6SG1/Prometheusteam.jpg

ShimmeringStar
May 30th, 2005, 06:25 PM
Yet the R2 DVD's have subtitles. Another "extra" they get that the Americans don't. I know JM said he has no control over the DVD's, but I wish somebody would come on here who does so we could talk to him/her.That reminds me - I was in the bookstore last Friday and skimmed a UK scifi magazine ("Starburst"? I think I've got the name wrong) for SG info. Toward the back they were rating the latest DVD release and were giving a really big thumbs down to the extras on it (which were becoming non-existent in their eyes) and the reduction from 4 eps a DVD down to 3. (Now the lesser # of eps per DVD I can understand - they didn't film as many shows in S8 as they had in past years...)

Buc252
May 30th, 2005, 06:28 PM
For anybody who does music videos . . .

I heard this song on an old CD (is that an oxymoron?<g>) today on my return trip from MW and it just sounded like the perfect song for a "Jack" video - with a bit of ship thrown in. ;) (I'm sure you'll be able to figure out where ti goes. LOL) It is even sort of written from *our* perspective how I'm reading it!

The song is called Hero and it's by phil Collins and David Crosby, sung by David Crosby on his Thousand Roads CD. Here are the lyrics:

It was one of those great stories
that you can't put down at night
the hero knew what he had to do
and he wasn't afraid to fight
the villain goes to jail
while the hero goes free
I wish it were that simple for me

And the reason that she loved him
was the reason I loved him too
and he never wondered what was right or wrong
he just knew
he just knew

Shadow and shade mix together at dawn
by the time you catch them, simplicity's gone
so we sort through the pieces
my friends and I
searching through the arkness to find
the breaks in the sky

and the reason that she loved him
was the reason I loved him too
and he never wondered what was right or wrong
he just knew
he just knew

And we wonder, yes we wonder
how do you make sense of this?
when the hero kills the maiden
with his kiss
with his kiss

Well it was one of those great stories
that you can't put down at night
the hero knew what he had to do
and he wasn't afraid to fight
the villain goes to jail
while the hero goes free
I wish it were that simple for me
Were that simple for me.

If anybody decides to do a video for it, I'd love to see it!

ShimmeringStar
May 30th, 2005, 06:28 PM
And from Redemption Parts 1&2 (S6):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/ShimmeringStar214/S6SG1/Redemption1samjack3.jpg
(S&J trying to see the future of their ship...)

ShimmeringStar
May 30th, 2005, 06:29 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/ShimmeringStar214/S6SG1/Redemption1samjack1.jpg

ShimmeringStar
May 30th, 2005, 06:30 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/ShimmeringStar214/S6SG1/Redemption1samjack2.jpg

ShimmeringStar
May 30th, 2005, 06:31 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/ShimmeringStar214/S6SG1/Redemption2samjack1.jpg

sg-1fanintn
May 30th, 2005, 06:31 PM
I hate to say this and bring anybody down, but I get the feeling that we're being played, and played BIG TIME by RCC in this interview.

Think about it. The shippers have been PO'd in the past, especially by things he's said. So now, he comes up with this hearts-and-flowers interview where he gives us hope. But read between the lines: it's not telling us anything we didn't already know, and it shows no loyalty to writing or resolving the ship. It only deals with RDA and his *possible* return.

To me, this interview tells me they're finally starting to realize that they could be in trouble where losing audience is concerned and are desperate to get us back in front of the set. I sense no sincerity in this, only attempts at manipulation.

Good! If they think they need us, then they'll have to act in a way that will please us.

ShimmeringStar
May 30th, 2005, 06:32 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/ShimmeringStar214/S6SG1/Redemption2samjack2.jpg

ShimmeringStar
May 30th, 2005, 06:33 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/ShimmeringStar214/S6SG1/Allegiancesamjack1.jpg
"This is my Dad you’re talking to Jack…"


(S6's Allegiance)

ShimmeringStar
May 30th, 2005, 06:34 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/ShimmeringStar214/S6SG1/Allegiancesamjack3.jpg

ChevronSeven
May 30th, 2005, 06:43 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/ShimmeringStar214/S6SG1/Allegiancesamjack3.jpg

Is he staring at her six? :D:D

sg-1fanintn
May 30th, 2005, 06:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShimmeringStar
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...ncesamjack3.jpg

Is he staring at her six? :D:D

Every chance he gets!

gatewatcher
May 30th, 2005, 07:34 PM
The jello is ready* :D


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/Oma-1/jello2.jpg

And for your entertainment while you eat, here's a lovely little jello story.
Jello Evasion (http://www.sjhw.net/ac/jello.htm)

Enjoy :D

*still hunting for the purple stuff
Oma, read your story and loved it!!! So cute.....have I ever mentioned that purple is my favorite color :D

Oma-1
May 31st, 2005, 01:30 AM
Just watched the last scene of Lost City with the subtitles. In the chair after Sam calls him Jack, he works his jaw a few times but doesn't actually say anything (anybody lip-read ancient??), then he just says "Dormata". In the chamber he says "Aveo....amacuse". So I thought he doesn't declare his love for Sam :(

Then I checked out a Latin dictionary online - here's the refs I could find. I couldn't find the exact wording, but I'm assuming that's cos ancient is slightly different to Latin :rolleyes:

Stem: dorm
dormio -ire [to sleep; to rest , be inactive].
dormito -are [to be sleepy , begin to sleep, nod; to dream, be lazy].
dormitorius -a -um [for sleeping].

ending: at
v *at 1 3s pr act ind : the X sees, he does see, she is seeing
v *at 2-5 3s pr act sub : he might see, he would be seeing.

ending: a
feminine

aveo (1) -ere [to long for , desire].
aveo (2) (haveo) -ere [to be well]; found only in imperat. and infin.; 'ave' , [hail! or farewell!].

Stem: amat
amator -oris m. [a lover , friend, admirer]; esp.[the lover of a woman].
amatorius -a -um [loving , amorous]; n. as subst. [a love philtre]. Adv. amatorie.
amatrix -icis f. [mistress , sweetheart].

Sooooooooo fellow shippers, let's pick the translation we like the most :p :D

In the chair

Sam: Jack!
Jack: I will dream of you....I will see you again.

In the chamber

(For Sam) Jack: I long for you, my lover.
(For D&T) Jack: Farewell, Friends.


Suddenly, I'm very happy this morning :D See how sly tptb are? Initially, we all think he's just saying, Sleep and Goodbye, but really its soooooo shippy :D

An Ancient - you deserve a great big helping of Purple Jello for starting this conversation!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/Oma-1/purplejello2.jpg


Edit: If anyone wants to check it out, here's the site I used http://www.nd.edu/~archives/latgramm.htm

Oma-1
May 31st, 2005, 01:44 AM
More playing on the site, I found a literal translation of "amacuse". It means "fall in love with"

(check out William Whittaker's Words)

Now I'm just so excited! :D

lonely_star
May 31st, 2005, 02:38 AM
And finally ....


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/Oma-1/jelload.jpg[


Now I've eaten so much jello and ice cream I've got tummy ache :( Where's the shipto bismol? :p

WOAH !!! ((((((((OMA))))))) I still can't rep you !!! thanks so much !! that's exactly what we needed !!!!! sO cool !!!!!!!!! love the purple passionberry !!!! I wish I had this one when I tried jello ;)

patsbabe
May 31st, 2005, 02:45 AM
Oh Hello!!!
"Get off the Stage!"
Guys have any of you seen the news item on the Leo Awards?
I know ive already said this on the Jack RDA thunk forum.
But who does Mr Cooper think he is kidding!
Oh yea Jack O'Neill may be alive & well in the Stargate Universe but by the looks of things The actor who portraded him is not!!!!!
This does not bide well for the future Shippers!!!!!!
Apparently RDA Acceptance speach was V.Long and he gave it in a swimming pool in Scuba gear while wearing a suit and it was used as a running gag for the show ( see Kates RDA site for Pics) So how come the
only mention of the award he won ( Best Actor) on Gateworld news is the fact that Michael Shanks was nominated for the award!!!!!
No disrespect to Mr Shanks He does not edit these sites and IMO was also as deversing for the award. But if this site is a approved site by the powers that me and the fact that they use it shows it is Where does that leave RDA if they don't even acknowldge the fact that he won an award for his part in the show!!!!!!! :eek:
Have I the wrong end of the stick????? Please somebody tell me I'm Wrong!

lonely_star
May 31st, 2005, 03:23 AM
Oh Hello!!!
"Get off the Stage!"
Guys have any of you seen the news item on the Leo Awards?
I know ive already said this on the Jack RDA thunk forum.
But who does Mr Cooper think he is kidding!
Oh yea Jack O'Neill may be alive & well in the Stargate Universe but by the looks of things The actor who portraded him is not!!!!!
This does not bide well for the future Shippers!!!!!!
Apparently RDA Acceptance speach was V.Long and he gave it in a swimming pool in Scuba gear while wearing a suit and it was used as a running gag for the show ( see Kates RDA site for Pics) So how come the
only mention of the award he won ( Best Actor) on Gateworld news is the fact that Michael Shanks was nominated for the award!!!!!
No disrespect to Mr Shanks He does not edit these sites and IMO was also as deversing for the award. But if this site is a approved site by the powers that me and the fact that they use it shows it is Where does that leave RDA if they don't even acknowldge the fact that he won an award for his part in the show!!!!!!! :eek:
Have I the wrong end of the stick????? Please somebody tell me I'm Wrong!

on http://rdanderson.com it's said it's the Spacey award or something like that, I think they are two different things, aren't they ?? I guess gateworld is not updated yet cause it was on 29th
I'll read both again

lonely_star
May 31st, 2005, 03:30 AM
yes those are two different things
you can go on rdanderson.com in updates to see pics and on the following site to see the nominations
http://www.spacecast.com/spaceys05/viewerschoice.asp
hope it helps

Rogue
May 31st, 2005, 05:47 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/ShimmeringStar214/S6SG1/Curejacksam4.jpg

In response to the recent discussion, I'm not sure if IMOHO I'd say Jack was bitter. I think another spin that could be put on it was that he was doing the best he could to maintain a professional distance from all of his "family" (the SG1 team). Those frat regs that had kept him apart from Sam all those years applied equally to his friendships too. Some days it was easier for him to do it, other days not. (Like when he had to order the destruction of the ship Sam was in.)
Wow, there has been some really good discussion this weekend. IMO, at first Jack was overwhelmed by the General postion. Probably working long hours and stacks of paper work. I also think the regs were more of a issue now. He is commander of the whole base and can't show bias to his friends so he puts distance between them. But unlike Hammond, Jack has no family to lean on, so he becomes a lonely man. He finally becomes confortable in his job, then the engagement hits him between the eyes. He sees the woman he loves slipping away. I really don't see the bitterness until Kerry comes into the picture. On a professsional level Jack and Sam are great, but as soon as it turns personal, Jack turns cold as ice. I think he is reminded that he is forced to move on with another woman, he likes, but doesn't love.

sueKay
May 31st, 2005, 06:54 AM
SHIPPER FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((BIG HUG))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Oh my god! I can't believe I've been gone for over a fortnight.

RL's been a pain in the <insert expletive>

I need a news roundup...what's been happening...because I'm not reading thousands of posts.

nell
May 31st, 2005, 07:10 AM
Whoa! Too much info to process this a.m. But, for starters, here's the info I copied about the Spacey Awards. Who has pix? :D


FAVOURITE TV CHARACTER - MALE
-----------------------------
Nominees: Commander William Adama (Battlestar Galactica), Captain
Jonathan Archer (Star Trek: Enterprise), Lex Luthor (Smallville), General
Jonathan "Jack" O'Neill (Stargate SG-1), Morgan Pym (The Collector)
Award Presenter: Jolene Blalock from Star Trek: Enterprise
- Winner: General Jonathan "Jack" O'Neill (Stargate SG-1) - Accepted by
Richard Dean Anderson

sueKay
May 31st, 2005, 07:21 AM
http://rdanderson.com/

go to updates, notes from rick and you should find some piccies!

shipper hannah
May 31st, 2005, 07:30 AM
wow oma i can't thank you enough for translating jack's words! :D :D :D :D
i never actually thought they would be at all shippy! :D :D :D :D :D
you've got me in a shippy mood now!
(((((((((Oma)))))))))))))
Thankyou!!!!

:D :D :D :D :D

sueKay
May 31st, 2005, 07:33 AM
I need an update on EVERYTHING that's been happening here....SOMEONE PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY!

...
carry on :D

shipper hannah
May 31st, 2005, 07:39 AM
I need an update on EVERYTHING that's been happening here....SOMEONE PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY!

...
carry on :D

i don't know about everything..
but we just learnt what jack said in latin at the end of lost city..
:D

nell
May 31st, 2005, 07:41 AM
I need an update on EVERYTHING that's been happening here....SOMEONE PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY!

...
carry on :D

See Lost City 2: Jack declares love and farewell to Sam in Latin!
JM Thread: JM says that in Season 9 There may be "allusions" regarding Sam's and Jack's relationship. Sam will not have a Season 9 love interest.
TPTB are goofs (my word) for withholding RST and other shipper stuff. You know, the usual. Otherwise, I'll take any bone they throw. I have no pride!!!

Hope this helps. :D ;)

sueKay
May 31st, 2005, 07:54 AM
Okieday...thankyou

me's thinking

Sam and Jack are having a platonic relationship until one quits the air force...either that or they're keeping it secret...we should be able to find out that if she comes back with a HUGE smile on her face during beach head

sueKay
May 31st, 2005, 07:57 AM
hmm
read the translation
no wonder danny boy looked a little bitty uncomfortable at the end of TLC!!!

SHAME ON DANNY for not passing along the message!

sueKay
May 31st, 2005, 07:59 AM
Okay...read RC's comments on S9

I'm feeling okay about it...I loved S1 and 2, and there was ship in both of them !!!Broca Divide!!! and obviously there's not going to be much ship if RDA's not there...I think Sam and Jack will have figured out where they're going, and they'll probably go slowly after all...going to fast straight into the HWMS may be damaging to their friendship

Daniel's_twin
May 31st, 2005, 08:19 AM
Oohhhh, everything's spinning. So many posts since I was last here. So much info, so many opinions...*topples into a fleshy heap on the floor*

*3 hours later*

Well, I feel better now. I just stopped in to say hi, see how everybody was this weekend, and to see if shipper love is still goin' strong. :cool:

nell
May 31st, 2005, 08:47 AM
Okieday...thankyou

me's thinking

Sam and Jack are having a platonic relationship until one quits the air force...either that or they're keeping it secret...we should be able to find out that if she comes back with a HUGE smile on her face during beach head

Season 9 speculation Remember: If Jack is Director of Homeworld Security as USAF or civilian, Sam is out of his direct chain of command. So, they could enter into a relationship. :D I'm gonna guess that there will be a *cough* "allusion" *cough*to a relationship of sorts between them. Perhaps they will temper their desire with the geographical break (Colorado/Washington, D.C.) while he settles into his new position and she works through her loss of her father and her break up with Pete. Not that Sam has second thoughts about Pete but maybe Jack being Jack fears a rebound. You know, gotta have some angst. :rolleyes: Then, if all goes according to my desire, Jack will return to Season 10 and things will start cooking. :D ;)

An Ancient
May 31st, 2005, 10:06 AM
-Consumes Jello-

Thanks, you see why I like that episode.

-Goes back to investigating recording sound files from DVD-

Oma-1
May 31st, 2005, 10:15 AM
Hey suz

Nice to have ya back - now empty ya PM box so i can send ya the roundup :rolleyes: :p

sugarshaker
May 31st, 2005, 11:00 AM
I hate to say this and bring anybody down, but I get the feeling that we're being played, and played BIG TIME by RCC in this interview.

Think about it. The shippers have been PO'd in the past, especially by things he's said. So now, he comes up with this hearts-and-flowers interview where he gives us hope. But read between the lines: it's not telling us anything we didn't already know, and it shows no loyalty to writing or resolving the ship. It only deals with RDA and his *possible* return.

To me, this interview tells me they're finally starting to realize that they could be in trouble where losing audience is concerned and are desperate to get us back in front of the set. I sense no sincerity in this, only attempts at manipulation.

Sorry, just MO. Forgive what they've done to us this year in season 8 if you wish , but don't ever, ever forget. Personally, I'm sick of them thinking they can manipulate the shippers. :(

OK, I'm waaaaaay behind here. Can someone provide a link to this interview? Thanks. :)

This weekend as I was getting out some DVD's, I came across an old TV Guide from the beginning of season 7 that had RDA and MS on the cover. In it, RCC was quoted as saying that one of the developments of s7 would be that

"Sam and Jack will get closer" followed by "Nudge, nudge" from the TV Guide writers.

Well, in s7 there were some definite shippy moments, but more significantly Sam decided to move on in Grace and we all know what happened in Chimera. At the end of s7 I felt that S/J were no closer than they had been the last couple of years.

Then s8 starts off as if nothing happened between S/J in s7, plus Sam gets engaged to :eek: ! To me RCC's statement was false advertising. If he's saying positive things now, I'd take them with a grain of salt. :S

ST-1
May 31st, 2005, 11:05 AM
Well sueKay, you did miss the debut of my S/J Shippy FanFics:

No Explanation Needed (http://www.gateworld.net/fanfic/archive/35/noexplanation.html)
Catalyst (http://www.gateworld.net/fanfic/archive/35/catalyst.html)

Just a little shameless self-promotion, 'cause I'd love more feedback! :rolleyes: :D

Welcome back! :)

florence
May 31st, 2005, 01:05 PM
SHIPPER FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((BIG HUG))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Oh my god! I can't believe I've been gone for over a fortnight.

RL's been a pain in the <insert expletive>

I need a news roundup...what's been happening...because I'm not reading thousands of posts.

(((((((sueKay)))))))

Welcome back ! We so missed you ! :)

girlgater
May 31st, 2005, 02:09 PM
Well sueKay, you did miss the debut of my S/J Shippy FanFics:

No Explanation Needed (http://www.gateworld.net/fanfic/archive/35/noexplanation.html)
Catalyst (http://www.gateworld.net/fanfic/archive/35/catalyst.html)

Just a little shameless self-promotion, 'cause I'd love more feedback! :rolleyes: :D

Welcome back! :)

Sticking my head in to add two cents on your fics!-- Both were excellent. I enjoyed them over the weekend and would highly recommend them for a nice, sweet, quick read. Keep writing!

Rogue
May 31st, 2005, 02:20 PM
OK, I'm waaaaaay behind here. Can someone provide a link to this interview? Thanks. :)

This weekend as I was getting out some DVD's, I came across an old TV Guide from the beginning of season 7 that had RDA and MS on the cover. In it, RCC was quoted as saying that one of the developments of s7 would be that

"Sam and Jack will get closer" followed by "Nudge, nudge" from the TV Guide writers.

Well, in s7 there were some definite shippy moments, but more significantly Sam decided to move on in Grace and we all know what happened in Chimera. At the end of s7 I felt that S/J were no closer than they had been the last couple of years.

Then s8 starts off as if nothing happened between S/J in s7, plus Sam gets engaged to :eek: ! To me RCC's statement was false advertising. If he's saying positive things now, I'd take them with a grain of salt. :S

Toward the end of season 7, I thought they were getting closer. Then season 8 was approved. Instead of a kiss in the engine room we got a "I know" and him high-tailing it out of there. Season 8 is spent tearing them apart or acting like they barely know each other. Would have been better if they had left the kiss in, maybe Jack wouldn't have been so grumpy.

sg-1fanintn
May 31st, 2005, 04:15 PM
This weekend as I was getting out some DVD's, I came across an old TV Guide from the beginning of season 7 that had RDA and MS on the cover. In it, RCC was quoted as saying that one of the developments of s7 would be that

"Sam and Jack will get closer" followed by "Nudge, nudge" from the TV Guide writers.

Well, in s7 there were some definite shippy moments, but more significantly Sam decided to move on in Grace and we all know what happened in Chimera. At the end of s7 I felt that S/J were no closer than they had been the last couple of years.

Then s8 starts off as if nothing happened between S/J in s7, plus Sam gets engaged to :eek: ! To me RCC's statement was false advertising. If he's saying positive things now, I'd take them with a grain of salt. :S

I've thought a lot about that interview too. I wondered if someone from TV Guide saw some previews (maybe Grace with the big hot imaginary kiss), and drew the wrong conclusion (that it was reality). Or, maybe that was TPTB's plan at the first of the season. Then, when they found out they were renewed for S8, they changed their minds. But in retrospect, yes, I agree that the interview seemed deceiving.

Token
May 31st, 2005, 06:57 PM
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/16/16_6_1v.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSzfw003) I'm HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hooray!!!!!!!

It's sooo good to be back!!!! (even though I'm a year older :rolleyes: ) ((((((((Shipper Family))))))))) I'm all rested and ready for the next season of Shipper Rollercoaster Heck!! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/7/7_2_111.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSzfw003)

Thanks Watters87, Bev, wynter, sg-1fanintn, Grace O'Neill, florence, Emilee, girlgater, ShimmeringStar, and Oma for all the WONDERFUL birthday wishes!!!!! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_3_16.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSzfw003) I had a GREAT birthday! It's was tiring but GREAT!! I think it was a little too much for Rick! ;)

I have enjoyed catching up on all the posts! You definitely didn't disappoint me!! Pictorial tributes, fanfic, Shipper jello, Latin lessons, Shippy moments!!! (((((((Shipper Family))))))) I seem to be getting all weepy! It must be old age or hormones or that this is just the best darn Family any where!!!!!!!!!!

LtColSamONeill
May 31st, 2005, 10:20 PM
Just wanted to say a quick Congrats to Amanda Tapping for getting a Leo!!! And here's the shippy part......she got it for her performance in THREADS!!!! Listen up TPTB!!! Even the Leo committe gets the ship!!!!!

sclairef99
May 31st, 2005, 10:33 PM
Ya Know....I just loved the US replay of the ep the other night....great the name is escaping me....where S/J are with Jacob....and Jack says - I distinctly recall someone saying we weren't going to make it out of this....and the ending to that whole scene is Jacob having the last word "What and give up the last chance I might ever have of being right?!" And Sam looks at Jack, walks by and says 'Welcome to MY LIFE.'

It was a great scene....a great way to break in a possible son-in-law! ;)

S

Grace O'Neill
May 31st, 2005, 10:40 PM
Hello Family!

I just watched Death Knell, again. Every time I watch it, I just have to rewatch that shippy scene at least twice. I am sure you all know which scene I am talking about ;)
The look in Jack's eyes and the softness of his voice is so passionate when he offers her to get up. After they both sit down, it looks like he is really trying to say something to her. He keeps on opening his mouth and holding himself back, until he finally offers for her to rest on his shoulder... Ohhh... so shippy... I have goosebumps :)

And I just love that Teal'c gets the ship. He just stands there giving them their privacy.

I wonder what they talked about after the camera panned out... It just looked like Jack was telling Sam something...

Rogue
June 1st, 2005, 03:49 AM
Hello Family!

I just watched Death Knell, again. Every time I watch it, I just have to rewatch that shippy scene at least twice. I am sure you all know which scene I am talking about ;)
The look in Jack's eyes and the softness of his voice is so passionate when he offers her to get up. After they both sit down, it looks like he is really trying to say something to her. He keeps on opening his mouth and holding himself back, until he finally offers for her to rest on his shoulder... Ohhh... so shippy... I have goosebumps :)

And I just love that Teal'c gets the ship. He just stands there giving them their privacy.

I wonder what they talked about after the camera panned out... It just looked like Jack was telling Sam something...

That is my favorite shippy moment. We are currently watching the S7 DVDs, can't wait to get to that ep. We just watched Lifeboat.YAWN.

How much better would S8 would be if they actually got Sam and Jack together after S7? IMO, it would have actually be enjoyable to watch. Could have done it if they wanted to. If there is a will, there is a way.

sierragulf_gurl_23
June 1st, 2005, 07:59 AM
Hello Shipper Family!!!I'm really sorry I haven't posted(trust me when I say really sorry) Ihaven't had time,what with schoola nd projects ans extra-curricular activities and....I've felt such a need for shipping,it feels great to be back.
Back to bussiness:Yesterday I saw Shades of Grey.I never realized that was a (@ least minorly) shippy episode.
Spoiler for Shades of Grey:
................................................................................ ........................

................................................................................ ........................

................................................................................ ........................

................................................................................ ........................

................................................................................ .......................There's a part were Jack is heading towards Hammonds office and he meets up with Sam and they say:

Sam:Well,sir,with respect,you haven't exactly been acting like yourself.
Jack:No Carter.I haven't been acting like myself since I met you.Now,I'm acting like myself.

Is it just me or...was that quite a response? Eh,what do I know.I'm just gonna go get some blue jello and you guys tell me what you think.K?

sueKay
June 1st, 2005, 08:20 AM
Aloha people!

Thanx for all the welcomes!!!!!!

I've been doing some hard graft on my website with my fancy new web builder, so when I can get all the files uploaded, the new website will be up and running!

I'm also getting copies of all my fics as we speak, so that I can continue the madness of 'Jack's Big Day', the in-depthness of 'In Between the Threads', and the slow torture of Potatohead in 'The Third Race'!

Yay!

Anywho...website website website...will feature

In-depth bios on all the main characters
Quick fire episode guides
A variety of essays on the main ships and friendships of the shows
Quizes
Fanfic
Fan art

and links galore!!!!!

Gotta go!

KEEP THE SHIP LIVING!

(death to the evil forces of Bridge <evil laugh>)

jk

Suz
xxxxx

Grace O'Neill
June 1st, 2005, 08:30 AM
How much better would S8 would be if they actually got Sam and Jack together after S7? IMO, it would have actually be enjoyable to watch. Could have done it if they wanted to. If there is a will, there is a way.

Couldn't agree more!!! I guess there wasn't a will :( :( :(

BUT!!!! We won't let it get us down! Optimism is our middle "family" name :rolleyes: :D :D

sierragulf_gurl_23
June 1st, 2005, 08:33 AM
Can't wait for your site Suz! Thanx Oma-1 for translating what Jack said in TLC.(((((((((((((Oma-1))))))))))))))
Gotta go.Keep the shippy love going!
*mutters to herself*I wonder if mom will let me have Purple Jello for lunch...

sueKay
June 1st, 2005, 08:35 AM
Purple...nothing beats red...Jack likes red... :D

Site will be a while...It's MASSEEEEVE!

And I made the layout myself rather than using a templete :D

I LOVED the translation of TLC...has anyone posted it in the JM thread to see what he thought of it since he is supposedly a shipper?

sueKay
June 1st, 2005, 08:38 AM
LMAO!

I've started a ship movement on another site...called the CHECKETT shippers...

oh the madness...

*wanders away*

Reminds me of a fic writer's username I saw once...

Sack and Jam

so are we Sack shippers or Jam shippers???

sueKay
June 1st, 2005, 08:46 AM
Okay well I'm about to log off, so I'll speak to you all as soon as possible...

CARRY ON SHIPPING!!!!!!!!!

BrenRen
June 1st, 2005, 08:53 AM
Ya Know....I just loved the US replay of the ep the other night....great the name is escaping me....where S/J are with Jacob....and Jack says - I distinctly recall someone saying we weren't going to make it out of this....and the ending to that whole scene is Jacob having the last word "What and give up the last chance I might ever have of being right?!" And Sam looks at Jack, walks by and says 'Welcome to MY LIFE.'

It was a great scene....a great way to break in a possible son-in-law! ;)

S

Heeee heeeee!! It's not just me!!! Yay!! I caught that bit a while back, and so I was watching for it when they replayed it last week.

I was really cracking up, though, when I realized it became something of a running gag through the end of the ep. A short time after the "last chance of being right" comment, Sam, Jack, and Dad are just got back from Apophis' bug-infested ship and Daniel comments that they were worried Sam & Jack weren't gonna make it.... Dad says "I didn't say it, though!" and Jack gives him this look that was just too funny!

Then, towards the very end, they're trying to outrun the exploding mothership and its SAM who yells out "Are we gonna make it?" and both Dad and Jack shoot her a "shut up about that already!" look that had me rolling! Watch close, it flies by!

ShimmeringStar
June 1st, 2005, 08:58 AM
Hello Shipper Family!!!I'm really sorry I haven't posted(trust me when I say really sorry) Ihaven't had time,what with schoola nd projects ans extra-curricular activities and....I've felt such a need for shipping,it feels great to be back.
Back to bussiness:Yesterday I saw Shades of Grey.I never realized that was a (@ least minorly) shippy episode.
Spoiler for Shades of Grey:

There's a part were Jack is heading towards Hammonds office and he meets up with Sam and they say:

Sam:Well,sir,with respect,you haven't exactly been acting like yourself.
Jack:No Carter.I haven't been acting like myself since I met you.Now,I'm acting like myself.

Is it just me or...was that quite a response? Eh,what do I know.I'm just gonna go get some blue jello and you guys tell me what you think.K?It was quite a response.

And it always bothered me that at the end of the episode, in the gateroom with the team standing there, that TPTB gave dialogue to Jack to say to Daniel to make up for the hurtful things he said him, but they didn't give any to him to apologize poublicly to Sam. (And his 'slights' to Daniel had been in the privacy of Jack's home... those to Sam had been at the SGC in front of Teal'c and at the steps up into the control room where many more people could see/hear what he had to say...) Although there was a look that Jack gave her... if you watch, before Jack says "Ummm Daniel about what I said..." Jack is looking to Daniel's right, where Sam was standing and his look to Sam (IMO) was one of 'I'm sorry, I didn't mean anything I said, forgive me?" But I've often wondered why TPTB didn't give dialogue for Jack to say to make amends with Sam (and if that was RDA inserting the sorrowful looks {and unsaid apology} that might not have been in the script).


BTW... no spoiler tags needed on episodes from seasons before 7 & 8.

sierragulf_gurl_23
June 1st, 2005, 09:01 AM
LMAO!

I've started a ship movement on another site...called the CHECKETT shippers...

oh the madness...

*wanders away*

Reminds me of a fic writer's username I saw once...

Sack and Jam

so are we Sack shippers or Jam shippers???
I like both "Sack" and "Jam".Why don't we make a poll to see which everyone likes?
I like both.
Sack:1
Jam:1
What about you Suz?Anyone else interested?

ps.I might eat red jello.That's the one there usually is the caf where my mom works(which is where I'm at)

sierragulf_gurl_23
June 1st, 2005, 09:18 AM
It was quite a response.

And it always bothered me that at the end of the episode, in the gateroom with the team standing there, that TPTB gave dialogue to Jack to say to Daniel to make up for the hurtful things he said him, but they didn't give any to him to apologize poublicly to Sam. (And his 'slights' to Daniel had been in the privacy of Jack's home... those to Sam had been at the SGC in front of Teal'c and at the steps up into the control room where many more people could see/hear what he had to say...) Although there was a look that Jack gave her... if you watch, before Jack says "Ummm Daniel about what I said..." Jack is looking to Daniel's right, where Sam was standing and his look to Sam (IMO) was one of 'I'm sorry, I didn't mean anything I said, forgive me?" But I've often wondered why TPTB didn't give dialogue for Jack to say to make amends with Sam (and if that was RDA inserting the sorrowful looks {and unsaid apology} that might not have been in the script).


BTW... no spoiler tags needed on episodes from seasons before 7 & 8.
I noticed the look too.Even my mom noticed it,and she doesn't even like SG1(me and my dad are working on her:so far so good-she may not like the show but she does love all the angst between Sam and Jack!)I completely agree and have wondered why TPTB didn't give him any dialogue.It was a tragic waste of ship*silently mourns* :( ...The look he gave Sam did cheer me up though :D

BTW-thanx 4 the tip.I was never really sure.

BTOtherW-Which one do you like better? "We're Sack shippers" or "We're Jam shippers"?

Shippy hugs and kisses,Laura aka sgg23

sierragulf_gurl_23
June 1st, 2005, 09:35 AM
Heeee heeeee!! It's not just me!!! Yay!! I caught that bit a while back, and so I was watching for it when they replayed it last week.

I was really cracking up, though, when I realized it became something of a running gag through the end of the ep. A short time after the "last chance of being right" comment, Sam, Jack, and Dad are just got back from Apophis' bug-infested ship and Daniel comments that they were worried Sam & Jack weren't gonna make it.... Dad says "I didn't say it, though!" and Jack gives him this look that was just too funny!

Then, towards the very end, they're trying to outrun the exploding mothership and its SAM who yells out "Are we gonna make it?" and both Dad and Jack shoot her a "shut up about that already!" look that had me rolling! Watch close, it flies by!
Good scenes,most def.Had me giggling so hard,I'm sure my neighbors heard me.I musn't giggle."No giggling"...
I'm babbling again...I'll just go back to my little rock and eat my RED jello;) quietly

ps.I'm throwing out some term papers on Artifial Intelligence in Robots my mom made her students do and I just a pic of a robot that looked uncannily like a replicater...

sg-1fanintn
June 1st, 2005, 09:37 AM
Hello Family!

I just watched Death Knell, again. Every time I watch it, I just have to rewatch that shippy scene at least twice. I am sure you all know which scene I am talking about ;)
The look in Jack's eyes and the softness of his voice is so passionate when he offers her to get up. After they both sit down, it looks like he is really trying to say something to her. He keeps on opening his mouth and holding himself back, until he finally offers for her to rest on his shoulder... Ohhh... so shippy... I have goosebumps :)

And I just love that Teal'c gets the ship. He just stands there giving them their privacy.

For the characters, that was a particularly hard time. Ole Potatohead :eek: :eek: :eek: had just come into the picture. So, I'm sure Jack was uncertain what to say. He was still dealing with the fact that Sam was interested in another man.

Off camera, there are some cute screen caps from that ep that I think were in a "Lowdown". I have them at home, but not here at work. They show RDA and AT kissing and laughing and generally being affectionate.

If someone else has them saved to their desktop, could you put them up? If not, I will when I get home tonight.


Yesterday I saw Shades of Grey.I never realized that was a (@ least minorly) shippy episode.
There's a part where Jack is heading towards Hammonds office and he meets up with Sam and they say:

Sam: Well,sir,with respect,you haven't exactly been acting like yourself.
Jack: No Carter. I haven't been acting like myself since I met you. Now,I'm acting like myself.

Is it just me or...was that quite a response? Eh,what do I know.I'm just gonna go get some blue jello and you guys tell me what you think.K?

I agree that it's shippy. It's an S3 acknowledgement from Jack that knowing Sam has made him a different person. Remember, the Jack O'Neill we met in the movie and S1 was sad, broken and depressed. Charlie's death and the breakup of his marriage had almost destroyed him. Only after starting to work with SG-1 did he start to rebuild his life.....and his relationships with Daniel, Teal'c and Sam (especially Sam!!!) were a big part of that.

Okay....too deep and serious for the middle of the day!

ForeverSg1
June 1st, 2005, 09:51 AM
Hello Shippers...

For those of you who may not already know, thus far this year Amanda has won a Leo and a Saturn award for her performances this year as Sam on Stargate Sg-1. However she has also been nominated for a SyFy Genre Award. This particular award, unlike the other two are based upon fan voting and not that of her peers. The voting lasts for 30 days and each person can vote once a day. They are getting really close to the end of the voting process, but every vote counts in the end. So whether you have voted every day for 30 days or you just vote once, it's one step closer to Amanda winning the award.

I would truly love to see Amanda win three in a row. This would be our way of letting her know how much we loved her performance in Threads (even if the writers couldn't give us the resolution we really wanted). So if you haven't already done so, please take a moment out of your day to cast your vote for her.

http://www.syfyportal.com/genre-awards/2005/index.php

Thanks again,
Kat

dipsofjazz
June 1st, 2005, 10:42 AM
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/16/16_6_1v.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSzfw003) I'm HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hooray!!!!!!!

It's sooo good to be back!!!! (even though I'm a year older :rolleyes: ) ((((((((Shipper Family))))))))) I'm all rested and ready for the next season of Shipper Rollercoaster Heck!! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/7/7_2_111.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSzfw003)

Thanks Watters87, Bev, wynter, sg-1fanintn, Grace O'Neill, florence, Emilee, girlgater, ShimmeringStar, and Oma for all the WONDERFUL birthday wishes!!!!! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_3_16.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSzfw003) I had a GREAT birthday! It's was tiring but GREAT!! I think it was a little too much for Rick! ;)

I have enjoyed catching up on all the posts! You definitely didn't disappoint me!! Pictorial tributes, fanfic, Shipper jello, Latin lessons, Shippy moments!!! (((((((Shipper Family))))))) I seem to be getting all weepy! It must be old age or hormones or that this is just the best darn Family any where!!!!!!!!!!
:D Welcome back Token. I'm glad you had such a great holiday, and I'm also glad you had such a wonderful birthday. Good to have you back with the family. :D

Oma-1
June 1st, 2005, 11:33 AM
That is my favorite shippy moment. We are currently watching the S7 DVDs, can't wait to get to that ep. We just watched Lifeboat.YAWN.

How much better would S8 would be if they actually got Sam and Jack together after S7? IMO, it would have actually be enjoyable to watch. Could have done it if they wanted to. If there is a will, there is a way.

Couldn't agree more. S7-8 spec/spoilThey could have had that little Lost City kiss in the ship instead of the angsty look, then :eek: would have been history right at the beginning of S8 and all the shippers would have been much happier - even if tptb had still left S8 pretty scarce for ship and still finished with Threads being about Jacob and how they overcame the regs to be together. (That way I'd still have that lovely shippy picture for my sig. :p )

Oma-1
June 1st, 2005, 11:47 AM
I love that ep too :D It's S5 opener ...... name's coming .........Enemies (knew I'd get there in the end :p )

I love those lines you mentioned, I like the scene where Sam & Jack are on the ship getting the drive crystals and Jack says to Sam

Jack: You know how to have a good time don't ya Carter
Sam: I'm having a good time now, Sir
Jack: You GO girl

Always makes me laugh - well, I'd be having a good time sneaking around dark corridors with Jack!

I was watching Urgo today with the kids (they go around singing Me me me me me me me me ..... ) and when Urgo told Teal'c "Try The Paddles" this jumped into my mind ....


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/Oma-1/Thinking.jpg
Urgo: "Kiss The Major"

See how Jack's leaning in :D :D

Oma-1
June 1st, 2005, 11:57 AM
Kat, I've been really happy to see AT winning awards this year, and I've voted for her everyday in SyFy. You GO Amanda! :p

The only thing that stuck in my throat for the SyFy awards was that Prometheus was the SG-1 nomination for best show. I certainly didn't think that ep was the best for S8 for storyline or performances (personally I'd have gone for Reckoning). Yes, it was a good ep, but it seemed to me to be a nomination for the 18-25 male demographic.....Course, shipwise, gotta be Threads :D

Oma-1
June 1st, 2005, 12:04 PM
I LOVED the translation of TLC...has anyone posted it in the JM thread to see what he thought of it since he is supposedly a shipper?
I thought about posting the translation in JM Qus thread, but decided I'd rather be happy with the shippy version than have Joe possibly say "No, hadn't realised that" or "Completely unintentional" :p

Oma-1
June 1st, 2005, 12:12 PM
Watching Urgo today made me think about Upgrades/D&C - the link being Urgo's suggestions and the virus mind altering properties.

If I remember correctly, the virus basically lowered their self-control / inhibitions, hence the disregarding orders. I wondered if we would have had the look if it weren't for the virus from the armbands. I know the armbands had already fallen off, but wouldn't the effects linger for a while?

Just to play devil's advocate for mo ....I don't think Jack would have left Sam behind, but equally, without the effect of the armbands, would they have shared their feelings for each other with the look, or would they have kept it more professional?

Cassie
June 1st, 2005, 12:26 PM
*waves*HI SHIPPER FAMILY!!!
I'm bbbaaaacckkk :D Sry I haven't posted here in a while. My rl problems took over :( It's all good now missed you guys! :o

Welcome to all the new Shipper Family Members!

(((((Family)))))

Cassie
June 1st, 2005, 12:34 PM
The jello is ready* :D


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/Oma-1/jello2.jpg

yum jello!!!!!! thanks oma ;) ((((((oma))))))

Sam and Jack's fav. food!
"And I did a scene with Rick, and in between takes – or even during takes if the camera was on him – I'd put blue jello on my tongue and let it dissolve, and then just go (shows the blue in her mouth) (audience laughs) and poor Rick would be like, in the middle of a scene going, (trying not to get distracted) "Kiss me Rick, come on – you know you wanna!" "Blue jello!" But now it's just become this crazy thing. And I actually quite enjoy it. So…..that's Sam's new favourite food."

from: http://www.amandatapping.com/Scripts/PostNuke/index.php?module=htmlpages&func=display&pid=121

blueiris
June 1st, 2005, 01:24 PM
It was quite a response.

And it always bothered me that at the end of the episode, in the gateroom with the team standing there, that TPTB gave dialogue to Jack to say to Daniel to make up for the hurtful things he said him, but they didn't give any to him to apologize poublicly to Sam. (And his 'slights' to Daniel had been in the privacy of Jack's home... those to Sam had been at the SGC in front of Teal'c and at the steps up into the control room where many more people could see/hear what he had to say...) Although there was a look that Jack gave her... if you watch, before Jack says "Ummm Daniel about what I said..." Jack is looking to Daniel's right, where Sam was standing and his look to Sam (IMO) was one of 'I'm sorry, I didn't mean anything I said, forgive me?" But I've often wondered why TPTB didn't give dialogue for Jack to say to make amends with Sam (and if that was RDA inserting the sorrowful looks {and unsaid apology} that might not have been in the script).


BTW... no spoiler tags needed on episodes from seasons before 7 & 8.

During that scene in SoG at the end in the hall, I always thought that Sam had a bit of a smirk on her face, a knowing gleam in her eye, as if maybe she and Jack had already spoken quickly in private. Not anything too terribly romantic (much as I wish), but enough to make Sam smile again. Jack's sorrowful look seemed in answer to how Sam may have looked before that talk.

ShimmeringStar
June 1st, 2005, 01:35 PM
During that scene in SoG at the end in the hall, I always thought that Sam had a bit of a smirk on her face, a knowing gleam in her eye, as if maybe she and Jack had already spoken quickly in private. Not anything too terribly romantic (much as I wish), but enough to make Sam smile again. Jack's sorrowful look seemed in answer to how Sam may have looked before that talk.Sounds good, though I guess I'd assumed that they'd never left the gateroom in the scene having been only very shortly after coming back through the gate.

'Course the drawing straws scene right after that was priceless. I count that amongst one of my favorite eps.

blueiris
June 1st, 2005, 01:43 PM
Sounds good, though I guess I'd assumed that they'd never left the gateroom in the scene having been only very shortly after coming back through the gate.

'Course the drawing straws scene right after that was priceless. I count that amongst one of my favorite eps.
I never believed that they actually drew straws, either. I think Daniel was just teasing and that you couldn't have kept him from going. Daniel is the let's have a talk type. Teal'c doesn't seem like the diplomatic, let me help, type, and Sam would have been too upset. Just seems logical that Daniel would show up then give Jack the drawing straws story.

*It's becoming like a job to insert scenes into the episodes to satisfy my ship-needs.

Cassie
June 1st, 2005, 01:46 PM
Sounds good, though I guess I'd assumed that they'd never left the gateroom in the scene having been only very shortly after coming back through the gate.

'Course the drawing straws scene right after that was priceless. I count that amongst one of my favorite eps.

ya true, I think once Sam found out that he Had to act like that to her she understood part of the job. I think Sam and Jack had a discussion after the halway seen ;)

What do you guys think could have happend if Sam drew the shortness(sp?)straw?

blueiris
June 1st, 2005, 01:57 PM
ya true, I think once Sam found out that he Had to act like that to her she understood part of the job. I think Sam and Jack had a discussion after the halway seen ;)

What do you guys think could have happend if Sam drew the shortness(sp?)straw?
As I said, I don't think they really drew straws. But if they did and Sam was the one to choose the straw, I think Teal'c would have offered to go in her place. But had Sam actually gone, I think Jack would have trusted her enough to let spill, if not the whole thing, at least enough to let her know that all was not as it appeared. I honestly don't think he could have given her the same treatment he gave Daniel.

Oma-1
June 1st, 2005, 02:13 PM
As I said, I don't think they really drew straws. But if they did and Sam was the one to choose the straw, I think Teal'c would have offered to go in her place. But had Sam actually gone, I think Jack would have trusted her enough to let spill, if not the whole thing, at least enough to let her know that all was not as it appeared. I honestly don't think he could have given her the same treatment he gave Daniel.
I'm not so sure - I'm kinda torn between Jack wanting to

a) protect her at all costs from any sort of threat from rogue NID. In which case, if Sam had turned up at his place, he couldn't let anything slip cos he wouldn't take the chance that Maybourne would find out and get to her. I mean, look how frantic he was in Desperate Measures.

b) not want to hurt her (like he did Daniel). We all know Jack has a soft centre and his feelings for Sam being so deep ....

OK. Decision time .... I think he probably wouldn't have let anything slip. His overriding concern would have been for Sam's safety. He would have relied on her Military professionalism to understand why he wouldn't tell her. Plus, hurting her feelings isn't fatal.

But I don't believe they drew straws either. Daniel's the talky-feely one of SG-1.

blueiris
June 1st, 2005, 02:19 PM
As I think more about it, I think there is a possibility that Sam may have guessed there was more to it. At the end she did not have the look of someone very surprised or shocked by what had happened. I don't think she would have gone to Jack herself for that reason.

sugarshaker
June 1st, 2005, 02:28 PM
What do you guys think could have happend if Sam drew the shortness(sp?)straw?

Since Jack had already resigned at that point, she should have ditched the straws altogether and gone over there and jumped him. :D

Oma-1
June 1st, 2005, 02:35 PM
As I think more about it, I think there is a possibility that Sam may have guessed there was more to it. At the end she did not have the look of someone very surprised or shocked by what had happened. I don't think she would have gone to Jack herself for that reason.

Excellent point. She did kinda take it in her stride. Maybe once the shock of Jack's "retirement" wore off she realised that Jack would never steal from an ally and guessed it was some sort of blackops thing.


Since Jack had already resigned at that point, she should have ditched the straws altogether and gone over there and jumped him. :D

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_11_6.gif

Rogue
June 1st, 2005, 02:39 PM
Since Jack had already resigned at that point, she should have ditched the straws altogether and gone over there and jumped him. :D

Yeah, twice now he has resigned and she didn't take advantage of either situation.

sugarshaker
June 1st, 2005, 02:48 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/ShimmeringStar214/S6SG1/Allegiancesamjack1.jpg

"This is my Dad you’re talking to Jack…"



(S6's Allegiance)


"This is your future father-in-law you're talking to, Jack..." :D

LOL4JACK
June 1st, 2005, 04:25 PM
Yeah, twice now he has resigned and she didn't take advantage of either situation.
We defintely have to do some re-writing... :D :D :D

LOL4JACK
June 1st, 2005, 04:38 PM
yum jello!!!!!! thanks oma ;) ((((((oma))))))

Sam and Jack's fav. food!
"And I did a scene with Rick, and in between takes – or even during takes if the camera was on him – I'd put blue jello on my tongue and let it dissolve, and then just go (shows the blue in her mouth) (audience laughs) and poor Rick would be like, in the middle of a scene going, (trying not to get distracted) "Kiss me Rick, come on – you know you wanna!" "Blue jello!" But now it's just become this crazy thing. And I actually quite enjoy it. So…..that's Sam's new favourite food."

from: http://www.amandatapping.com/Scripts/PostNuke/index.php?module=htmlpages&func=display&pid=121
((((( Cassie )))))

Thanks for the AT interview I can't believe I never saw it before, it's great with all those stories.... and I like when in one place you get to read about:

- Jello :p
- RDA kissing :D:D:D

majorsal
June 1st, 2005, 05:18 PM
It was quite a response.

And it always bothered me that at the end of the episode, in the gateroom with the team standing there, that TPTB gave dialogue to Jack to say to Daniel to make up for the hurtful things he said him, but they didn't give any to him to apologize poublicly to Sam. (And his 'slights' to Daniel had been in the privacy of Jack's home... those to Sam had been at the SGC in front of Teal'c and at the steps up into the control room where many more people could see/hear what he had to say...) Although there was a look that Jack gave her... if you watch, before Jack says "Ummm Daniel about what I said..." Jack is looking to Daniel's right, where Sam was standing and his look to Sam (IMO) was one of 'I'm sorry, I didn't mean anything I said, forgive me?" But I've often wondered why TPTB didn't give dialogue for Jack to say to make amends with Sam (and if that was RDA inserting the sorrowful looks {and unsaid apology} that might not have been in the script).


BTW... no spoiler tags needed on episodes from seasons before 7 & 8.


i didn't take what jack said to sam as an insult.

Sam: "Well, sir, with respect, you haven't exactly been acting like yourself.

Jack: "No, Carter, I haven't been acting like myself since I met you. Now, I'm acting like myself."

i felt it was one of those *famous* ambiguous statements, that could be taken as either 'i haven't been acting like myself because you stunt me', or, 'i haven't been acting like myself because you wow me'. i take it as the latter myself :D, but it was done ambiguously enough (dialog *and* acting) that a fan could take it either way. but since i knew how jack felt/thought about sam, i took it as shippy. ;)


sally :D

sg-1fanintn
June 1st, 2005, 06:42 PM
Hello Family!

I just watched Death Knell, again. Every time I watch it, I just have to rewatch that shippy scene at least twice. I am sure you all know which scene I am talking about ;)
The look in Jack's eyes and the softness of his voice is so passionate when he offers her to get up. After they both sit down, it looks like he is really trying to say something to her. He keeps on opening his mouth and holding himself back, until he finally offers for her to rest on his shoulder... Ohhh... so shippy... I have goosebumps :)

And I just love that Teal'c gets the ship. He just stands there giving them their privacy.

I wonder what they talked about after the camera panned out... It just looked like Jack was telling Sam something...

Here are the photos I promised you I'd post when I got home tonight. They're off-camera (AT & RDA horsing around) during the filming of Death Knell, and the kiss that didn't make it on air. I apologize in advance to whoever I lifted them from. I honestly don't remember, and when I do save shippy photos, it's just so I can go back and sigh over them, :p :o so no harm intended!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/BYGJS_004.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/BYGJS_005.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/BTSDeathKnellT2.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/normal_deathknelldirectors4.jpg


Happy ship!

blueiris
June 1st, 2005, 08:57 PM
i didn't take what jack said to sam as an insult.

Sam: "Well, sir, with respect, you haven't exactly been acting like yourself.

Jack: "No, Carter, I haven't been acting like myself since I met you. Now, I'm acting like myself."
(snipped)
sally :D
I always took that line as Jack trying to say he had not been acting like himself since joining the SGC, that being "a by the rules guy" was not him. But his feelings for Sam made the words come out with more "personal" emotion that he had intended.

girlgater
June 2nd, 2005, 07:30 AM
Hi Everyone:

Real life has been kicking my butt the last couple of days and I haven't had a chance to comment about the S7 Evolution Part 1 and 2 episodes:

I love it whenever Jack talks with Sam about their respective missions and to be careful. You can just see the love in his eyes and his concern for her welfare.

Also..when she returns and he's waiting for her, he comments something like "good command." She has to take it as a tremendous compliment coming from him on her leadership ability--and the love that goes along with it make it doubly special. ;)

Had to throw that out as I watched the episodes late last week.

Keep shipping!!

ShimmeringStar
June 2nd, 2005, 10:28 AM
I always took that line as Jack trying to say he had not been acting like himself since joining the SGC, that being "a by the rules guy" was not him. But his feelings for Sam made the words come out with more "personal" emotion that he had intended.MOHO is that like Sal's - you can put your own spin on it since it's one of those classic PTB ambiguous dialogue lines. I think even Sam wasn't sure which way to take it by the way she stood there after Jack bounded on up the control room steps, seeming to think - should I be hurt what he just said or not?

At face value (non-ship), he was saying that ever since he'd met Sam he'd been putting on an act - hiding a vengeful, nasty interior from her (and the others). And Sam (just like the rest of us) knew - uh-uh, this guy is Mr. Direct... No way could he have hid that for 3 years...

So then there's the shippy interpretation - that his relationship changed him; having known/been with Sam had made him change for the better. And potentially a signal to Sam (if she could pick up on it) that something was going on.

I guess one reason I was irritated that they didn't give Jack something to say (other than a look) at the end of SoG was that this ep was on the heels of A Hundred Days. Where Sam had obsessively worked on the particle beam accelerator non-stop for 3 months and, IMO, had finally been able to acknowledge that she had some serious feelings for Jack. So even if she had an idea that something was up, she also couldn't help by feeling a bit hurt (IMOHO). So a little follow-up at the end would have been great... but yes, I know... It would have been asking too much for a word or three.... y'know... :rolleyes: :p

Grace O'Neill
June 2nd, 2005, 12:46 PM
Here are the photos I promised you I'd post when I got home tonight. They're off-camera (AT & RDA horsing around) during the filming of Death Knell, and the kiss that didn't make it on air. I apologize in advance to whoever I lifted them from. I honestly don't remember, and when I do save shippy photos, it's just so I can go back and sigh over them, :p :o so no harm intended!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/BYGJS_004.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/BYGJS_005.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/BTSDeathKnellT2.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/newsgoddess/normal_deathknelldirectors4.jpg


Happy ship!

Ohhh WOW.... My shippy heart is rejoicing :D :D :D

At least the actors agree with us on what really SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED!!!

Thank you for sharing these, sg-1fanintn!

Grace O'Neill
June 2nd, 2005, 12:57 PM
Hi Everyone:

Real life has been kicking my butt the last couple of days and I haven't had a chance to comment about the S7 Evolution Part 1 and 2 episodes:

I love it whenever Jack talks with Sam about their respective missions and to be careful. You can just see the love in his eyes and his concern for her welfare.

Also..when she returns and he's waiting for her, he comments something like "good command." She has to take it as a tremendous compliment coming from him on her leadership ability--and the love that goes along with it make it doubly special. ;)

Had to throw that out as I watched the episodes late last week.

Keep shipping!!

I just watched these 2 days ago!!! :D What a coincidence ;)

And I totally agree! There is so much love and passion there.

S
P
O
I
L
E
R
S

Both are going on dangerous missions. But most importantly, on separate missions, so they won't be able to watch each others' six. But they gotta do what they gotta do.

I think it was killing Jack to send Sam to possibly face Anubis without being there to help her. It's not that he doesn't trust her, it's just that he knows what Anubis is capable of. (I just ended that sentence with a preposition :eek: :) ) But Daniel is also a valuable part of his team, so Jack has to get him back. I bet you in the scene where Jack is drinking beer and waiting for his contact to show up, he is actually thinking of Sam and where she is now. He just looks so deep in his thoughts, so concerned.
What do you guys think?

blueiris
June 2nd, 2005, 01:25 PM
MOHO is that like Sal's - you can put your own spin on it since it's one of those classic PTB ambiguous dialogue lines. I think even Sam wasn't sure which way to take it by the way she stood there after Jack bounded on up the control room steps, seeming to think - should I be hurt what he just said or not?

At face value (non-ship), he was saying that ever since he'd met Sam he'd been putting on an act - hiding a vengeful, nasty interior from her (and the others). And Sam (just like the rest of us) knew - uh-uh, this guy is Mr. Direct... No way could he have hid that for 3 years...

So then there's the shippy interpretation - that his relationship changed him; having known/been with Sam had made him change for the better. And potentially a signal to Sam (if she could pick up on it) that something was going on.

I guess one reason I was irritated that they didn't give Jack something to say (other than a look) at the end of SoG was that this ep was on the heels of A Hundred Days. Where Sam had obsessively worked on the particle beam accelerator non-stop for 3 months and, IMO, had finally been able to acknowledge that she had some serious feelings for Jack. So even if she had an idea that something was up, she also couldn't help by feeling a bit hurt (IMOHO). So a little follow-up at the end would have been great... but yes, I know... It would have been asking too much for a word or three.... y'know... :rolleyes: :p

100 Days - It is a Jack episode and I watch it for that reason. But, I don't like it. It has the "L" word in it. *plooey*
Jack would never have given up that quickly!

By reasoning out explanations that satisfy me somewhat to not having actual Sam and Jack moments, does not mean that I don't think many scenese deserved follow-up. Its just my way of coping with the lack there-of. :S

girlgater
June 2nd, 2005, 01:27 PM
I just watched these 2 days ago!!! :D What a coincidence ;)

And I totally agree! There is so much love and passion there.

S
P
O
I
L
E
R
S

Both are going on dangerous missions. But most importantly, on separate missions, so they won't be able to watch each others' six. But they gotta do what they gotta do.

I think it was killing Jack to send Sam to possibly face Anubis without being there to help her. It's not that he doesn't trust her, it's just that he knows what Anubis is capable of. (I just ended that sentence with a preposition :eek: :) ) But Daniel is also a valuable part of his team, so Jack has to get him back. I bet you in the scene where Jack is drinking beer and waiting for his contact to show up, he is actually thinking of Sam and where she is now. He just looks so deep in his thoughts, so concerned.
What do you guys think?

You're absolutely right. Jack was so solemn and deep in thought. I'm sure he was worried about Daniel and getting him back safely, but even more so you know he was thinking about Sam and what she was facing with Anubis. He couldn't even share those concerns with anyone (Brooks or whatever his name was). Jack had to hold all those feelings inside himself and concentrate on rescuing Daniel. What a pro. I guess both those missions were hard on Sam and Jack because they had to be independent of each other and know that they were on their own--even if the other was thinking about them.

sg-1fanintn
June 2nd, 2005, 01:58 PM
Gateworld just posted an interview with RDA from Now Playing Magazine. In it, he talks about why he left SG-1 and whether he'll return. It's at:

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2005/06/andersononhisisg-1idepartu.shtml

He doesn't commit, but I think that's just RDA being snarky. I've thought about it ever since I heard about the Spacey Awards. I just don't think that a guy leaving the genre behind would let his acceptance speech (from a pool dressed in a suit) be the linear bit (running gag) for a big awards show. It just doesn't seem worth the effort. So I've chosen to believe he'll be back on our screens.......

ST-1
June 2nd, 2005, 03:18 PM
Gateworld just posted an interview with RDA from Now Playing Magazine. In it, he talks about why he left SG-1 and whether he'll return. It's at:

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2005/06/andersononhisisg-1idepartu.shtml

He doesn't commit, but I think that's just RDA being snarky. (snip)

How irritating of him. :rolleyes: A simple "maybe" would have sufficed. He's just as bad as TPTB when it comes to leaving us hanging! :p


Back to ShipTalk...this has probably been discussed before, but if so, it bears repeating....

What, in your opinion, is the single shippiest moment out of all 8 seasons?

For me, it was the Heroes, Part II hug! The way Jack turns his face into Sam's neck is something that sends shivers up my spine every time I watch it! For all we know, he could be kissing her. :D And the way she sighs and closes her eyes, you know there's no place she'd rather be. Uh-huh. Ship's a-sailin', right there. :p

LOL4JACK
June 2nd, 2005, 04:11 PM
How irritating of him. :rolleyes: A simple "maybe" would have sufficed. He's just as bad as TPTB when it comes to leaving us hanging! :p


Back to ShipTalk...this has probably been discussed before, but if so, it bears repeating....

What, in your opinion, is the single shippiest moment out of all 8 seasons?

For me, it was the Heroes, Part II hug! The way Jack turns his face into Sam's neck is something that sends shivers up my spine every time I watch it! For all we know, he could be kissing her. :D And the way she sighs and closes her eyes, you know there's no place she'd rather be. Uh-huh. Ship's a-sailin', right there. :p
For me without a doubt The ALWAYS moment still can't get over it.

Daniel's_twin
June 2nd, 2005, 04:43 PM
What, in your opinion, is the single shippiest moment out of all 8 seasons?

For me, it was the Heroes, Part II hug! The way Jack turns his face into Sam's neck is something that sends shivers up my spine every time I watch it! For all we know, he could be kissing her. :D And the way she sighs and closes her eyes, you know there's no place she'd rather be. Uh-huh. Ship's a-sailin', right there. :p

Would that be AU or RU? (Real universe) RU, it's probably the part in Divide and Conquer where Jack starts talking about his feelings for Carter and her feelings for him. True, no physical actions, but in that flashback scene, the heat was so intense, the force shield fluctuated. If that's not ship, I dunno what is. :cool:

blueiris
June 2nd, 2005, 05:31 PM
Would that be AU or RU? (Real universe) RU, it's probably the part in Divide and Conquer where Jack starts talking about his feelings for Carter and her feelings for him. True, no physical actions, but in that flashback scene, the heat was so intense, the force shield fluctuated. If that's not ship, I dunno what is. :cool:
Have to agree with D & C. The scene where he walks away and looks back at her, *sigh*, or as they gaze at each other through the force shield. Maybe because I've had those moments for so long to cherish and thats when I knew, absolutely, that there was ship, that episode, those moments, are my very favorite shippy moments.

nell
June 2nd, 2005, 06:08 PM
My two cents worth:

No. 2: D&C when Jack looks into Sam's eyes "...a lot more than I'm supposed to." :p

No. 1: Threads Jack looks at Sam and says "Always," and she turns to him and meets his gaze. :p

These were real Sam and Jack moments. As close as we ever got to an admission of love and longing. :D

LadyJeep
June 2nd, 2005, 06:48 PM
100 Days - It is a Jack episode and I watch it for that reason. But, I don't like it. It has the "L" word in it. *plooey*
Jack would never have given up that quickly!

By reasoning out explanations that satisfy me somewhat to not having actual Sam and Jack moments, does not mean that I don't think many scenese deserved follow-up. Its just my way of coping with the lack there-of. :S
This is probably the one ep I really don't like and have a hard time watching because I can't believe that he would have given up so soon and so easily either. Especially since he's the one thats always saying that no one gets left behind. So how did he forget so soon that everyone on earth (Sam) would be trying to find any way they could think of to get him back :o . And why did he let that pushy woman lead him around like that :S ?

Sorry, end of rant. It's just that I really don't like that ep and can't get over the fact that the he was written so out of character and at the same time showing Sam realizing that she felt something for him! FCOL :eek:

OK, I'm finished now, really. :D

Token
June 2nd, 2005, 07:58 PM
How irritating of him. :rolleyes: A simple "maybe" would have sufficed. He's just as bad as TPTB when it comes to leaving us hanging! :p


Back to ShipTalk...this has probably been discussed before, but if so, it bears repeating....

What, in your opinion, is the single shippiest moment out of all 8 seasons?

For me, it was the Heroes, Part II hug! The way Jack turns his face into Sam's neck is something that sends shivers up my spine every time I watch it! For all we know, he could be kissing her. :D And the way she sighs and closes her eyes, you know there's no place she'd rather be. Uh-huh. Ship's a-sailin', right there. :p
Hey, after 8 years we are experts at hanging!!! :p I'm just glad he might be back. That means that there might be some more visual ship!! :D

In answer to your question, I'm going with "Beneath the Surface" when Jonah and Thera reveal "feelings" and the intimate sharing of each other the scene exudes. At least that is my answer for today! :p

Here is a little (and I mean little) gif of your favorite scene...
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/Token04/HeroesHug125.gif
For a BIGGER version, you can download it at Marimba's site http://www.marimba26.com/JackandSamAlwaysteam.html Look for Token's GIFs. There is also a GIF of the behind-the-scenes Death Knell "kiss" ;) .

ST-1
June 2nd, 2005, 08:14 PM
Here is a little (and I mean little) gif of your favorite scene...

((((((((((((((((((((TOKEN)))))))))))))))))))))))

You totally rock! :D Green jello for you! :cool:

nell
June 2nd, 2005, 08:21 PM
Hey, after 8 years we are experts at hanging!!! :p I'm just glad he might be back. That means that there might be some more visual ship!! :D

In answer to your question, I'm going with "Beneath the Surface" when Jonah and Thera reveal "feelings" and the intimate sharing of each other the scene exudes. At least that is my answer for today! :p

Here is a little (and I mean little) gif of your favorite scene...
Spoiler for S7 Heroes II
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/Token04/HeroesHug125.gif
For a BIGGER version, you can download it at Marimba's site http://www.marimba26.com/JackandSamAlwaysteam.html Look for Token's GIFs. There is also a GIF of the behind-the-scenes Death Knell "kiss" ;) .


That is soooo cute! Can I download it to photobucket or directly to My Pictures? thanx :) ;)

Oma-1
June 3rd, 2005, 12:30 AM
How irritating of him. :rolleyes: A simple "maybe" would have sufficed. He's just as bad as TPTB when it comes to leaving us hanging! :p


Back to ShipTalk...this has probably been discussed before, but if so, it bears repeating....

What, in your opinion, is the single shippiest moment out of all 8 seasons?

Well, RDA's not ruling out a return, so to me that means HOPE :) Been living on that for years with Sam & Jack, so a bit longer won't make much difference :p

My single shippiest moment is Lost City The final moments before Jack goes into stasis. Sam calls him Jack! Jack looks at Sam with such sorrow and love, Sam returns the look with despair and disbelief. Then the way Jack looks at Sam before the chamber activates, and her hand on the ice ..... still makes me tear up watching it.

Fortunately, I love angst :p and now I know what Jack actually said, rates it waaaaay up there on my shippy list ;)

Oma-1
June 3rd, 2005, 12:42 AM
100 Days - It is a Jack episode and I watch it for that reason. But, I don't like it. It has the "L" word in it. *plooey*
Jack would never have given up that quickly!

By reasoning out explanations that satisfy me somewhat to not having actual Sam and Jack moments, does not mean that I don't think many scenese deserved follow-up. Its just my way of coping with the lack there-of. :S
That ep is verboten in my house! (you can get so much more expression with the german word :p) My son keeps complaining cos he hasn't seen that ep all the way through yet! If he has it on and I come in the room, he has to turn it off - I tell him to watch it when I'm not around. I can't control my language when that woman is on the screen! Grrrrrrrrrrrrr. And that final scene is such a slap in the face for Sam - its not angst - its cruel.

Umm - sorry to anyone who likes that ep :sheepish look:

Edit: Verboten means fobidden ;)

Oma-1
June 3rd, 2005, 12:53 AM
As lots of you named D&C as your no 1 shippy moment (no 2 for me :) ) anyone want to take a stab at this? I'm really interested to hear your opinions (hence shamelessy plugging the question again :p )


Watching Urgo today made me think about Upgrades/D&C - the link being Urgo's suggestions and the virus mind altering properties.

If I remember correctly, the virus basically lowered their self-control / inhibitions, hence the disregarding orders. I wondered if we would have had the look if it weren't for the virus from the armbands. I know the armbands had already fallen off, but wouldn't the effects linger for a while?

Just to play devil's advocate for mo ....I don't think Jack would have left Sam behind, but equally, without the effect of the armbands, would they have shared their feelings for each other with the look, or would they have kept it more professional?

melpomene
June 3rd, 2005, 01:16 AM
That ep is verboten in my house! (you can get so much more expression with the german word :p) My son keeps complaining cos he hasn't seen that ep all the way through yet! If he has it on and I come in the room, he has to turn it off - I tell him to watch it when I'm not around. I can't control my language when that woman is on the screen! Grrrrrrrrrrrrr. And that final scene is such a slap in the face for Sam - its not angst - its cruel.

Umm - sorry to anyone who likes that ep :sheepish look:

Edit: Verboten means fobidden ;)


Geez there are people who don't know what verboten means?


Anyway, I have watched that ep, but can't stand the That Woman.

On a brighter, though slightly ansty (but not cruel-angsty) note. I have made my first ship vid!! It's on Yousendit and has a very long url which I'm to tired to put up now but I linked it earlier on page 56 of the music video thread and page 1233 on the RDA thunk thread so it should be easy to find. I love ship vids and feedback, and it'd be great to hear from the shipper-family on it :D

melpomene
June 3rd, 2005, 01:19 AM
As lots of you named D&C as your no 1 shippy moment (no 2 for me :) ) anyone want to take a stab at this? I'm really interested to hear your opinions (hence shamelessy plugging the question again :p )

Wow, with Heroes, D&C and Lost City...it's hard to choose any one moment. It's like choosing a best time of your life.

lonely_star
June 3rd, 2005, 02:56 AM
How irritating of him. :rolleyes: A simple "maybe" would have sufficed. He's just as bad as TPTB when it comes to leaving us hanging! :p


Back to ShipTalk...this has probably been discussed before, but if so, it bears repeating....

What, in your opinion, is the single shippiest moment out of all 8 seasons?

For me, it was the Heroes, Part II hug! The way Jack turns his face into Sam's neck is something that sends shivers up my spine every time I watch it! For all we know, he could be kissing her. :D And the way she sighs and closes her eyes, you know there's no place she'd rather be. Uh-huh. Ship's a-sailin', right there. :p


wow mine is Heroes too! without hesitation...there is so much more than what is said!! their eyes speak so much and his head in her neck.... :o I totally agree with you!!!!
so thanks token !! (no green, got to spread love before! but THANKS so much! ;) )
the other moment I really appreciate is Death Knell because we haven't seen them so close for a long time, and this time there is a little contact and I remember I was very pleased to see that when it happened, so it's a very good remember (even if since then we got some other good...very good stuff ;) )

sueKay
June 3rd, 2005, 02:59 AM
Heya!!!!!!

I watched Abyss yesterday, and found another shippy moment. When they realise that Kanan had returned to the fortress to get the lo'taur...it's Sam that figures it out...I think she thought back to Divide and Conquer and how Jack refused to leave her....I just got the image of the forcefield in my head when I saw the look of realisation on Sam's face...AW!

BTW - I don't care what ANY producers say...Sam and Jack ARE together!

Oh! The front page of my new webby's up...DON'T click on any of the links...those pages aren't up yet.

http://stargateintel.bravehost.com

check it out!!!!

ps - I'll need be needing someone to write some shippy articles for Atlantis.

sueKay
June 3rd, 2005, 03:30 AM
Heads up - http://www.nowplayingmag.com/content/view/1635/2/

SOMEONE BUY THAT MAGAZINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rogue
June 3rd, 2005, 05:47 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/mkmoulder/Stargate/PDVD_003.jpg

Speaking of Season 7. This is a pic from Space Race. I want to know where the heck is Jack? Poor man, everytime she is decked out in leather the guy is somewhere else.

sugarshaker
June 3rd, 2005, 06:43 AM
Re: Favorite Shippy Moment


Have to agree with D & C. The scene where he walks away and looks back at her, *sigh*

That's a tough question - but a fun one. :) This is the moment that first came to mind for me. I think it's because there's absoloutely no question as to the depth of his feelings. You can like someone or have a crush on them or just have the hots for them or whatever, but you don't volunteer to end your life as you know it unless you LOVE them more than life itself.

For me, that scene revealed even more than the "a lot more than I'm supposed to" scene. :)