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    hyperspace windows as weapons?

    When a ship jumps into hyperspace, a hyperspace windows forms at some distance in front of it, and then it either jumps into it, or is sucked into it.

    Could this formation of a window be used as a weapon? If a window would form 200 meters in front of me, and a Wraith Cruiser was 200 meters in front of me, would the window form inside of it? What kind of effect would that have? Do windows not form where matter exists?

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    Well, theoretically you could form an unstable hyperspace window infront of the ship and have the enemy fly into it.
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      #3
      Originally posted by gateface View Post
      When a ship jumps into hyperspace, a hyperspace windows forms at some distance in front of it, and then it either jumps into it, or is sucked into it.

      Could this formation of a window be used as a weapon? If a window would form 200 meters in front of me, and a Wraith Cruiser was 200 meters in front of me, would the window form inside of it? What kind of effect would that have? Do windows not form where matter exists?
      Hyperspace windows appear in empty space, that is, an area without an immediate gravitational distortion. If they could be generated, then ships wouldn't have to get into orbit to make the jump. (call this the New Mombasa Law of FTL)
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        #4
        Originally posted by Exiled Master View Post
        Hyperspace windows appear in empty space, that is, an area without an immediate gravitational distortion. If they could be generated, then ships wouldn't have to get into orbit to make the jump. (call this the New Mombasa Law of FTL)
        Not true... we've seen hyperspace windows form in the atmospheres of planets, they're just not very safe.

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          #5
          it's possible, but also very lame

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            #6
            Sg ships are moving at 10+c you can't see this from visuals but all evidence point to this and Aphophis Ha'tak's were going 10.000G in S1 finale to reach from jupiter to earth in that amount of time.

            Plus the hyperspace window takes tome to open and a ship could theoretically avoid it if necessarily. Now planets, is the other side of the window negative pressure if so why didn't the air got sucked when the corgo ship entered above antartica and the repli ship escaped from orilla or was there some safety shield that they used stop such a thing. Who knows?

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              #7
              Originally posted by gateface View Post
              If a window would form 200 meters in front of me, and a Wraith Cruiser was 200 meters in front of me, would the window form inside of it? What kind of effect would that have? Do windows not form where matter exists?
              I think that an hyperspace window can't form in solid matter. It is extremly unstable when formed in atmoshere, it can form beacause gazes are made mostly of empty space, but I doubt it can form in a ship.
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                #8
                I think that the hyperspace window only affects the ship that created it, like if opens in the atmosphere the atmosphere won't get sucked in. And can be made to fit two ships or more depending on how much power you have.

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                  #9
                  Actually, a hyperspace window would tear apart the target if formed inside it, as seen in The Lost Tribe, when the water below it forms a dip, a window is actually created with anti-gravity, so if it pops up inside something, that thing will explode outward.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Crazy Tom View Post
                    Actually, a hyperspace window would tear apart the target if formed inside it, as seen in The Lost Tribe, when the water below it forms a dip, a window is actually created with anti-gravity, so if it pops up inside something, that thing will explode outward.
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                    Didn't it happen in First Contact?

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                      #11
                      I'd say matter disrupts the formation of a hyperspace window - not totally, but enough to make it tricky. When O'Neill opened a window in the upper atmosphere to dispose of the Stargate, there seemed to be a hell of a lot of arcing, massive energy being dumped into the air - since this was a one way trip anyway, I suppose damage to the 302 didn't matter.

                      Maybe it's the same or similar effect to Stargates being unable to activate if buried - sufficient matter prevents a wormhole forming, but possibly the gate can push fluids aside to create a highly localised vacuum.

                      As for the Pegasus Asgard opening atmospheric windows, they could be advanced enough to either deal with the dangerous energy (there wasn't any arcing IIRC) or else create some kind of precursor anti-grav pulse to push air and water away, again creating a highly localised vacuum allowing the window to form.

                      I therefore don't think you could use a window as a weapon, except to throw an enemy vessel into hyperspace unexpectedly as the second poster said.
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                        #12
                        I think the window arching in "Redemption" is because the window was unstable due to the naquadria powering the generator.

                        The effect in "First Contact" was due to the spacial distortion caused by the exit window forming

                        And maybe you could use it as a weapon if it opened inside the ship and tore it in half by forcing half of it into hyperspace.

                        But without the ship generating a hyperspace field, wouldn't it just be forced back out again?
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                          #13
                          i doubt that it would be a very effective weapon because if you just generated a hyperspace window in front of your enemy, it dosent mean that he has to go into it because as i understand the technology, the way it works is that the hyperspace generators create a hyperspace window that you then use the sublight engines to fly into and your not really sucked into it no matter what because the 302 was able to avoid the unstable window so any enemy ship could also do the same thing.

                          as for the effects of generating one inside a ship, first of all, i would find that to be a very very difficult thing to accomplish because the hyperspace generators take a few seconds to power up before they can generate the window and when you consider that the enemy is most likely moving, to actually time it perfectly so that it forms inside the ship i would see that as next to impossible.
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                            #14
                            It depends on how hyperspace and hyperspace generators work in Stargate, I know hypersapace windows were used as a weapon in Babylon 5.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by stargater1990 View Post
                              i doubt that it would be a very effective weapon because if you just generated a hyperspace window in front of your enemy, it dosent mean that he has to go into it because as i understand the technology, the way it works is that the hyperspace generators create a hyperspace window that you then use the sublight engines to fly into and your not really sucked into it no matter
                              Like in "Grace" Carter activated the hyperspace window, but the cloud would let the sublight engines work to get the Prometheus into the window.

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