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GateWorld
December 2nd, 2009, 11:08 AM
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 210</FONT>
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Unauthorized brain surgery on a mental patient renders him completely cured, and sends the Fringe team on a hunt for an enemy who is attempting to reconstruct a long-buried secret about the other world.

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Ian-S
December 11th, 2009, 02:51 PM
So so ep, I've got a theory where this story is going:

Newton is William Bell from the other side, but I can't quiet work out the younger look, maybe he was born later over there or the cryogenic freezing has reversed the ageing process.

the fifth man
December 11th, 2009, 07:20 PM
So-so? I thought this episode was amazing. This one really answered some important questions, while at the same time posing new ones. I can't wait to watch it again.

pjt
December 12th, 2009, 07:40 AM
Now this episode was big and also confusing. Great! ;)

Ian-S
December 12th, 2009, 10:33 AM
So-So is translated as "frigging fantastic" for me :)
I think Walter has kept those memories they were trying to exact, he seems to have had some memories returned about that elusive doctor, so I wonder if the rest have been retailed too, it'll be good to see if there are any subtle changes to his personality over the next few episodes that nobody notices at first.

Peter is in for a huge shock when the truth comes out.

the fifth man
December 12th, 2009, 09:06 PM
So-So is translated as "frigging fantastic" for me :)
I think Walter has kept those memories they were trying to exact, he seems to have had some memories returned about that elusive doctor, so I wonder if the rest have been retailed too, it'll be good to see if there are any subtle changes to his personality over the next few episodes that nobody notices at first.

Peter is in for a huge shock when the truth comes out.

Once the show comes back from hiatus, I really hope he finds out soon.

jds1982
December 13th, 2009, 04:53 AM
As soon as they revealed that Walter had been visited by Dr. Paris I knew it was his brain inside those people. I do feel bad for him though, he can't get back what was lost. On the other hand he seemed kind of mean when he was hooked up, but I suppose that could be because he was being interrogated, but there was an arrogance about him that I'm not sure was from anger.

Ian-S
December 13th, 2009, 09:14 AM
^^ Peter said something about some of those parts of the brain controlling moral reasoning as well as memory, which would explain why when he was hooked back up he had an air of arrogance we'd not seen before.

I still think that he has somehow retained those memories, and is perhaps now playing the dumb Walter we know and love, and that at some point in the future, the old arrogant no morals Walter is going to slip back in place.

The timeline doesn't seem very clear, but he has now remembered who Dr Paris was, was that as a result of the memories being returned to him, did he simply remembering it during the MRI, or did the visual stimulation trigger the memories?

I wonder if he underwent the surgery before or after he took Peter?

How long is Fringe's hiatus?

jds1982
December 13th, 2009, 06:27 PM
Do we know that Walter remembered and that it wasn't simply a flashback for the audience's benefit?

the fifth man
December 13th, 2009, 07:00 PM
Do we know that Walter remembered and that it wasn't simply a flashback for the audience's benefit?

I really hope it was a memory surfacing.

Easter Lily
December 13th, 2009, 10:39 PM
Oh wow...
This has to be one of the best things on television right now. Just when I think I've got it all figured out, this show never fails to surprise me. The big arc in particular has me hooked.
The characterization -- and the acting particularly from Joshua Jackson and John Noble continue to impress.


I'm of the impression that Newton didn't quite get the info he wanted. :D

Ian-S
December 14th, 2009, 06:20 AM
Do we know that Walter remembered and that it wasn't simply a flashback for the audience's benefit?

From the look on his face, it indicated to me that he was remembering it.



I'm of the impression that Newton didn't quite get the info he wanted. :D

Perhaps he got the info, just not the "correct" info, Walter did seem a tad pissed off and from what we're lead to believe, in his former guise, was a immoral vindictive liar :lol:

LtColCarter
December 15th, 2009, 11:23 AM
Oh wow...
This has to be one of the best things on television right now. Just when I think I've got it all figured out, this show never fails to surprise me. The big arc in particular has me hooked.
The characterization -- and the acting particularly from Joshua Jackson and John Noble continue to impress.


I'm of the impression that Newton didn't quite get the info he wanted. :D

Yeah...I kinda got that impression as well.

the fifth man
December 15th, 2009, 06:30 PM
Yeah...I kinda got that impression as well.

And he will not be happy. This is going to be so good.:)

LtColCarter
December 16th, 2009, 06:03 AM
And he will not be happy. This is going to be so good.:)

This is true. I kept on thinking in this episode that Peter was sure to find out the truth.

the fifth man
December 16th, 2009, 06:38 PM
This is true. I kept on thinking in this episode that Peter was sure to find out the truth.

Hopefully we won't have to wait too much longer. The fallout from that revelation is going to make for some amazing viewing.

LtColCarter
December 17th, 2009, 07:10 AM
Hopefully we won't have to wait too much longer. The fallout from that revelation is going to make for some amazing viewing.

I agree! I think it will be a nice little dramatic punch.

the fifth man
December 17th, 2009, 06:32 PM
I agree! I think it will be a nice little dramatic punch.

I am hoping they reveal it in the January 11th episode, right before our 7 week hiatus.

LtColCarter
December 18th, 2009, 06:05 AM
I am hoping they reveal it in the January 11th episode, right before our 7 week hiatus.

Now THAT would be a cliffhanger!!! I would be all :eek:

the fifth man
December 18th, 2009, 07:50 PM
Now THAT would be a cliffhanger!!! I would be all :eek:

You would not be the only one, my friend.:)

LtColCarter
December 19th, 2009, 08:06 AM
You would not be the only one, my friend.:)

See...they should consult us. :D

the fifth man
December 19th, 2009, 06:26 PM
See...they should consult us. :D

I would certainly consider the position.;)

LtColCarter
December 20th, 2009, 03:25 PM
I would certainly consider the position.;)

Me too! :D

the fifth man
December 20th, 2009, 06:28 PM
Me too! :D

That would be like a dream come true.

Angela V
December 21st, 2009, 10:22 PM
I am hoping they reveal it in the January 11th episode, right before our 7 week hiatus.

WTF?!?! We are getting what? Who the bleep thinks this schedule is a GOOD idea?

So loved this episode. And made me think that I did not want Walter to have parts of his brain back!

LtColCarter
December 22nd, 2009, 01:42 PM
WTF?!?! We are getting what? Who the bleep thinks this schedule is a GOOD idea?

So loved this episode. And made me think that I did not want Walter to have parts of his brain back!

Yeah...he was a bit evil sounded with the bits of his brain attached.

the fifth man
December 22nd, 2009, 05:40 PM
Yeah...he was a bit evil sounded with the bits of his brain attached.

Personally I am hoping, at some point, that we get to see the alternate version of Walter. From the other side.

the fifth man
December 22nd, 2009, 05:41 PM
WTF?!?! We are getting what? Who the bleep thinks this schedule is a GOOD idea?

So loved this episode. And made me think that I did not want Walter to have parts of his brain back!

Believe me, I know. I am sure a lot of us feel exactly the same way.

LtColCarter
December 23rd, 2009, 08:07 AM
Personally I am hoping, at some point, that we get to see the alternate version of Walter. From the other side.

Maybe alternate Walter and our Walter working together?

Ian-S
December 27th, 2009, 02:56 PM
don't think so but AltWalter is sure gonna be pissed when he finds out what our Walter did...

the fifth man
December 27th, 2009, 06:10 PM
don't think so but AltWalter is sure gonna be pissed when he finds out what our Walter did...

He may already know. We shall find out.

LtColCarter
December 28th, 2009, 07:08 AM
don't think so but AltWalter is sure gonna be pissed when he finds out what our Walter did...

Oh...I think you're right...I think he's gonna be pissed...

the fifth man
December 28th, 2009, 06:58 PM
Oh...I think you're right...I think he's gonna be pissed...

That is probably an understatement.

LtColCarter
December 29th, 2009, 05:16 AM
I just can't wait to see how all of this pans out...

the fifth man
December 29th, 2009, 06:25 PM
I just can't wait to see how all of this pans out...

It will certainly make for some wonderful viewing entertainment. No doubt about that.:)

LtColCarter
December 30th, 2009, 03:54 AM
It will certainly make for some wonderful viewing entertainment. No doubt about that.:)

This is true! Any news on a 3rd season??

the fifth man
December 30th, 2009, 06:04 PM
This is true! Any news on a 3rd season??

Not that I have heard. I will certainly be keeping my fingers crossed though. This has been a great season so far IMO, and I really want this show to get renewed.

LtColCarter
December 31st, 2009, 06:52 AM
Not that I have heard. I will certainly be keeping my fingers crossed though. This has been a great season so far IMO, and I really want this show to get renewed.

I do too! I just hope that Time-Warner doesn't drop Fox...like the discussions have been saying. Thankfully, I can still watch Fox on my TV in my bedroom because its not connected to cable.

Ian-S
December 31st, 2009, 01:54 PM
well, you'll find out tomorrow whether it's dropped right?

LtColCarter
December 31st, 2009, 02:55 PM
well, you'll find out tomorrow whether it's dropped right?

According to ads I've seen today by Time-Warner...it will not be dropped.

the fifth man
January 1st, 2010, 05:30 PM
According to ads I've seen today by Time-Warner...it will not be dropped.

After seeing that a deal was finally reached today, I am glad to hear that there won't be any problem with seeing this show for any of you guys.

LtColCarter
January 1st, 2010, 06:21 PM
After seeing that a deal was finally reached today, I am glad to hear that there won't be any problem with seeing this show for any of you guys.

Ahhh...you mean they actually reached a deal? Very cool :D No missing out on Fringe! :D

the fifth man
January 2nd, 2010, 05:53 PM
Ahhh...you mean they actually reached a deal? Very cool :D No missing out on Fringe! :D

Yep, the pitchforks can be put away.....for now anyways.;)

LtColCarter
January 5th, 2010, 08:12 AM
Yep, the pitchforks can be put away.....for now anyways.;)

Woo-hoo! :D

mr_kennedy
June 13th, 2010, 05:44 AM
I enjoyed this episode, nice to see Leonard Nimmoy again :), and i felt really bad for the Bishops in this episode atleast we now know why walter cant remember how he crossed over to a parralell universe, i thought it was because it done to many drugs or old age :lol:

LtColCarter
June 13th, 2010, 09:47 AM
I enjoyed this episode, nice to see Leonard Nimmoy again :), and i felt really bad for the Bishops in this episode atleast we now know why walter cant remember how he crossed over to a parralell universe, i thought it was because it done to many drugs or old age :lol:

ROFL...no...having pieces of your brain removed is good enough reason though. ;)