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November 29th, 2009, 01:40 PM
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Magnus and Will investigate the disappearances of teenagers who sought treatment at an exclusive rehab facility in Mexico, where they learn that a sinister plot has been disguised as a cure for their addictions. <I>(TV Guide)</I>

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Skydiver
December 18th, 2009, 07:02 PM
I liked this one. it was a lot of fun, lots of snark and sass.

and wow, tesla is no longer a vamp.

dude.

the whole telekinesis/magnetism is cool, but i bet i know a plot of a s3 episode...tracking down any source blood to see if he can revamp his devamper

SciFiGeek17
December 18th, 2009, 07:02 PM
Pure Awesomeness!

I love this episode so much! My favorite of the season so far!!!!

Tesla Rocks!

SamJackShipper93
December 18th, 2009, 07:05 PM
Mixed reviews from me:

Loved seeing Nikola again. So sad that he's not a vamp. :( Though I can't wait to discover his new powers.

The teenager storyline was cringeworthy and boring. The language and sexual conotations had me wondering why this was only rated PG. :mckay:

I loved that they dedicated the episode to Azra Young and her cousins. RIP. :(

Three Children Had No Chance of Escaping Shuswap Lake Cabin Fire (http://www.theprovince.com/news/Three+children+chance+escaping+Shuswap+Lake+cabin+fire/1821293/story.html)
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jbachandouris
December 18th, 2009, 07:06 PM
I liked the episode, but I missed the last scene with Tesla and Magnus. I just replaced my DVR and had set it to turn off automatically at 11pm-just in time to miss the final minutes. Oh well, I'll have to watch it again!

Durbelethwen
December 18th, 2009, 07:11 PM
[QUOTE=SamJackShipper93;11023187]

I loved that they dedicated the episode to Azra Young and her cousins. RIP. :(


I also liked the fact that the episode was dedicated to the children.
Even though this is after the fact I found this synopis from tvguide.com to be rather humorous:
"These days, Hollywood would have you believe that vampires are hunky young men with cover-boy faces who harbor tortured souls beneath their pale skin. Fortunately, there's Nikola Tesla (Jonathan Young), a recurring charmer who serves to remind us that vampires can be bad news for humans. Magnus and Will check out a rehab facility in Mexico, where they find Tesla up to his old tricks."

SG-17
December 18th, 2009, 07:11 PM
I felt sorry for Tesla when he was devamped. Though when he discovered his "magneto" power I knew his character would only get better.

SciFiGeek17
December 18th, 2009, 07:12 PM
The teenager storyline was cringeworthy and boring. The language and sexual conotations had me wondering why this was only rated PG

Yeah, I didn't get that either. It should have been at least rated PG-13.

SciFiGeek17
December 18th, 2009, 07:13 PM
I felt sorry for Tesla when he was devamped. Though when he discovered his "magneto" power I knew his character would only get better.

Same here! I was like 'OMG! NO'! And then his magnetic powers and I was like 'oh yeah!'

Replicator Todd
December 18th, 2009, 07:27 PM
A nice episode, didn't really care for the other vampires they created some very dull moments. But it is cool to see Tesla no longer as a vamp, but a new abnormal.

SamJackShipper93
December 18th, 2009, 07:46 PM
Even though this is after the fact I found this synopis from tvguide.com to be rather humorous:
"These days, Hollywood would have you believe that vampires are hunky young men with cover-boy faces who harbor tortured souls beneath their pale skin. Fortunately, there's Nikola Tesla (Jonathan Young), a recurring charmer who serves to remind us that vampires can be bad news for humans. Magnus and Will check out a rehab facility in Mexico, where they find Tesla up to his old tricks."

Haha, that's great! :D

lordofseas
December 18th, 2009, 08:21 PM
I thought that this was an "Awwww.." episode. It was so...nice. An 8/10, for me. I thought that John disappearing was rather interesting.

suse
December 18th, 2009, 09:15 PM
I liked this one. it was a lot of fun, lots of snark and sass.

and wow, tesla is no longer a vamp.

dude.

the whole telekinesis/magnetism is cool, but i bet i know a plot of a s3 episode...tracking down any source blood to see if he can revamp his devamper

Wow! Helen doesn't use pure silver for her trays! ;)

:lol: Magneto Man!

Fun ep.

Mack_1
December 18th, 2009, 09:21 PM
Saw it for the second time and it had the same effect in me; made me laugh out loud, make me roll my eyes at some of their story lines, keep me entertained and make me some kind of sad that Tesla is “ordinary” again.

“Wide world domination”LOL cerebro any one?:D

“The last of the five” that sentence was powerful; it would be really difficult to think that you are the last one of some group like they were, you can see how Helen is terrified of been the last one alive and everybody she had known die or is dying.

I really like the interaction between Kate and Will, they do a good pair but I rather she partner with Henry.

And Henry and the Big guy are away at the San Diego Comic Con. “That’s one of the places he fits” LOL:ronan:

There were a lot of good lines. "Life's b** and then you don't die" LOL

Helen looked astonish beautiful.:sam:

This season has been a very good one just one episode I didn’t like that much so far 9/10

That's all for now;)

RealmOfX
December 18th, 2009, 09:53 PM
:D :D Goodbye Dracula, Hello Magneto!! :D :D

A very fun ep!

wurlitzer153
December 18th, 2009, 09:54 PM
It was a pretty good episode. Wasn't much of a fan of those kids, but Helen, Will, and Tesla kept it fun.

Some interesting thoughts for me:
Liked the SDCC reference and Biggie. I wonder if the "bloody awful" line was an intentional reference to Top Gear? I'm trying to figure out why the "I'm ordinary" delivery seems familiar, like I've heard it somewhere before. I'm also curious about Helen's line about John. Perhaps it relates to the events of Haunted, probably why it should have aired first...
And then there's Tesla's new found talent... :D

EvenstarSRV
December 18th, 2009, 11:09 PM
:D :D Goodbye Dracula, Hello Magneto!! :D :D

A very fun ep!

LOL! Well said and how true. :D

This was a pretty fun episode. The rich kids storyline got annoying rather fast, but Tesla and his interactions with Helen and Will, and Will, Helen, and Kate tracking down Tesla were entertaining.

Was surprised to see Tesla's no longer a vampire, but his new powers could be interesting. And I liked that it was magnetism, which is probably related to his previous ability to control electricity.

And LOL for Henry and Bigfoot being fanboys and going to Comic-con. Though I hope they're not conveniently elsewhere for the rest of the season like in this ep and Next Tuesday.

LunaSolTierra
December 18th, 2009, 11:54 PM
I really like this episode is was very funny. Tesla was very funny and charming, and definitely my second favorite vampire. Those kids were brats and very annoying I completely understand why they were Tesla's nightmare, anybody could see they were very stupid and arrogant and wouldn't last long. I like the interaction between Helen, Will, and Kate. They worked like a team and Helen is really giving Kate a chance to prove herself. I like the simultaneous jump that Helen and Kate did and I was laughing so hard when they were tied up and Will tried to get Kate to untie him and just made her fall, just for him to fall as well. And who knew Helen kept a knife in her boot. Even though I feel bad that Tesla got devamp I'm glad he got the magnetize power, maybe this means his powers are not completely gone, or maybe with the loss of his vampiric powers a new power resurface, probably the one he would have gotten if he hadn't turn into a vampire in the first place. All in all my favorite episode of the season.

Inquisitor
December 19th, 2009, 01:48 AM
Definitely one of the best of the episodes we've seen so far. Tesla's vampiric demise brings to mind that the show is going to end at some point.. unfortunately Amanda Tapping isn't immortal, even though her beauty is ;)

doylefan22
December 19th, 2009, 03:37 AM
I thought it was another excellent episode.

Jonathan plays Tesla so perfectly it's unreal. As the audience I think you can really relate to Helen's feelings about him; you know he's an arrogant arse that causes a world of trouble but you can't help but like him! :)

The end was pitched perfectly, with the sad shock of him losing his powers and then the reveal. I think they knew the audience wouldn't have been happy if Tesla had been left totally human. It'll be fascinating to see where he goes from here.

There's also an obvious opportunity for him to re-vamp in the future if they wish - it's already been established that he's a genius, so it certainly wouldn't be infeasible that one day he finds something Helen missed.

Definitely hope to see Jonathan back for more episodes next season.

kes
December 19th, 2009, 03:41 AM
It was a pretty good episode. Wasn't much of a fan of those kids, but Helen, Will, and Tesla kept it fun.

Some interesting thoughts for me:
Liked the SDCC reference and Biggie. I wonder if the "bloody awful" line was an intentional reference to Top Gear? I'm trying to figure out why the "I'm ordinary" delivery seems familiar, like I've heard it somewhere before. I'm also curious about Helen's line about John. Perhaps it relates to the events of Haunted, probably why it should have aired first...
And then there's Tesla's new found talent... :D

She only said Druitt was gone but the last of the 5 line makes me nervous
Wonder what happens to Druitt?!

I loved this ep. Magnus/Telsa relashionship rocks! Love the bit when he asks where the weapon is :P AT played it so well.
But it made me sad he's no longer a vamp. Happy with what happened at the end. Hope we'll see more of him in S03 :D

Oh and Kate's lines actually worked this time. I liked her in this ep. Except for the whole bit about garlic, cross and stakes :S Thats lame.

Chelle DB
December 19th, 2009, 04:30 AM
Gotta be quick...Sleepers was brilliant. Loved Tesla, and Helen was awesome as ever! Loved that Helen drinks Earl Grey tea...very cool! Loved the "move" that Helen invented...the references to ComicCon and Churchill...the wine!!! What a wonderful ep to end the year on...well done to the Sanctuary team yet again!

Also, the tribute to Azra and her cousins...absolutely beautiful.

Skydiver
December 19th, 2009, 04:32 AM
the kiddie vamps were cringeworthy at points. not much depth given to them

but i loved the rest. and how tesla's arrogance bit him (pun intended) in the end. he's messing with stuff he didn't totally understand, and then has to clean up the mess

AdamTM
December 19th, 2009, 04:58 AM
Tesla rules, id watch a series just about him.

Its one of those situations where a side character is better written than the regular cast (*cough* Kate Walker).
I love it when extras grow larger than the main cast.

And of course they are going to give him magnetic powers, hes Nikola Tesla gddamit!

katefan
December 19th, 2009, 05:42 AM
I loved this episode and can't wait for the next. What was Will thinking? Of course Helen had a knife.

Skydiver
December 19th, 2009, 06:08 AM
From what I've read elsewhere and I'm gonna keep it vague....Haunted SHOULD have aired first.

Because events in Sleepers (or at least a bit) is built from Haunted.

And that's all I'll say. :)

atlantis_babe34
December 19th, 2009, 06:11 AM
ahaha loved it!

"i've imagined this moment.. you. tied up.. its a shame you brought the kids" *dies of laughter*

magneto! :D

Skydiver
December 19th, 2009, 06:15 AM
the transcript to this will be a scream to read

tze
December 19th, 2009, 08:14 AM
Now that he's gotten the whole 'Resurrect The Vampire Race!!' thing out of his system, maybe Tesla can get around to the project he should've been working on this whole time: Operation Resurrect Watson and Griffin. He can devote the whole of Season 3 to it, that's fine, but the Five are one of the best things about this series and they've been dropping like flies!

Speaking of which, was anyone else disappointed that Tesla didn't hide the Devamper in a copy of The Invisible Man or The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes? The entire time they were in Magnus's library, I was like 'Head over to Arthur Conan Doyle, people!' Le sigh.

Someone needs to track down Druitt and inform him Tesla's no longer immortal. I think Druitt would actually be kind of irritated: here's this obnoxious little know-it-all that he can no longer push off of skyscrapers. How's he supposed to let off steam without maiming Tesla?

And for that matter, I'm crying foul on the whole 'teen vamps take down Tesla' thing. The man hobnobbed with Sherlock Holmes and spent an inordinate amount of time ****ing off Jack the Ripper: you don't do either without picking up some skills. Though that shot of Tesla getting hit by a car was one of the funniest things I've seen in a while.

sweetviviane
December 19th, 2009, 09:06 AM
From what I've read elsewhere and I'm gonna keep it vague....Haunted SHOULD have aired first.

Because events in Sleepers (or at least a bit) is built from Haunted.

And that's all I'll say. :)

I don't think events in Sleepers are built from Haunted because Sleepers was originally planed to be episode 4


OMG the shortest hour in my life. This episode did really rock. The ending was quite sad with Helen being the only one of the five. I hope Nikola is still immortal. Can't get enough of him^^

Skydiver
December 19th, 2009, 09:20 AM
he may still be immortal in the not aging thing, but i think his 'fall off hte roof and bounce up' days are over

jckfan55
December 19th, 2009, 09:33 AM
Definitely enjoyed this episode. great to see Tesla again. I love his interactions with Helen. And they have an interesting relationship--they have a bond but he still drives her nuts. :)
Though I felt kind of bad for Tesla when he lost his vampness, I was kind of glad too. The show could definitely go overboard with vampires. This opens up some new possiblities.
We should definitely see Tesla a few times a season. :)
Looking forward to rewatching this one. (can we hope JY does the commentary on the dvd with AT? please?) :)

wine_buyer
December 19th, 2009, 10:03 AM
the kiddie vamps were cringeworthy at points. not much depth given to them

but i loved the rest. and how tesla's arrogance bit him (pun intended) in the end. he's messing with stuff he didn't totally understand, and then has to clean up the mess

Can't help but wonder if that was intentional or not. I live right next door to a prep school and believe me when I tell you the lack of depth in the majority (but not all) of these kids is astounding. They have rich parents and don't think beyond their next pair of expensive shoes etc... So, spoiled rich kids lacking in depth seems spot on to me. I was actually watching this ep, looking at the kids and thinking "that's about right".

Onto other things: Loved this ep. Loved the visuals, loved Tesla, loved all of the one liners (too many to post now). Magnus hotter than ever. All in all one of my favorites in regards to both seasons.

kes
December 19th, 2009, 10:04 AM
I don't think events in Sleepers are built from Haunted because Sleepers was originally planed to be episode 4


OMG the shortest hour in my life. This episode did really rock. The ending was quite sad with Helen being the only one of the five. I hope Nikola is still immortal. Can't get enough of him^^
It had re-writes.

MissCheerfully
December 19th, 2009, 10:30 AM
Amazing episode!

But a little thing hit me, very small, but I wanna know if I'm alone to have noticed that :
When Kate said "Magnus, shout him!" that made me think much to "Mum, Shout him" from Ash in the first episode.
Damn, I'm getting crazy but, is that could be a clue to show that Kate remplaced Ashley???

Anyway, I love Magneto Man... xD even if I'm gonna miss Vampy Niko =°(

the "Focus, Nikola." was awesome! ahhhh <3
The final scene was Epic too, Helen to be closer to Niko than before, I'm sure she prefer him without his vampire side if he got this magnetic power =P

And... does anyone know the song name in that final scene?????

jckfan55
December 19th, 2009, 12:51 PM
the "Focus, Nikola." was awesome! ahhhh

Yes. Tesla was great, but then Helen's response really completed the moment. :D

RealmOfX
December 19th, 2009, 01:01 PM
I don't think events in Sleepers are built from Haunted because Sleepers was originally planed to be episode 4

Whilst it was originally intended to be ep 4 it was rescheduled very early on to be episode 11 and work didn't progress on it till much later so what Sky said is probably spot on.


Definitely enjoyed this episode. great to see Tesla again. I love his interactions with Helen. And they have an interesting relationship--they have a bond but he still drives her nuts. :)
Though I felt kind of bad for Tesla when he lost his vampness, I was kind of glad too. The show could definitely go overboard with vampires. This opens up some new possiblities.
We should definitely see Tesla a few times a season. :)
Looking forward to rewatching this one. (can we hope JY does the commentary on the dvd with AT? please?) :)

I can see how if Tesla stayed a vamp it could be limiting to storylines if they kept him true to character. Hopefully the devamping, as you say, will open up more possibilities with the character. I do enjoy both the character and the actor very much.


Can't help but wonder if that was intentional or not. I live right next door to a prep school and believe me when I tell you the lack of depth in the majority (but not all) of these kids is astounding. They have rich parents and don't think beyond their next pair of expensive shoes etc... So, spoiled rich kids lacking in depth seems spot on to me. I was actually watching this ep, looking at the kids and thinking "that's about right".

Onto other things: Loved this ep. Loved the visuals, loved Tesla, loved all of the one liners (too many to post now). Magnus hotter than ever. All in all one of my favorites in regards to both seasons.

I believe it was intentional, it was too consistent between the youngins' not to be and it was a good counterpoint to Tesla's Grand Plan :D

Yeah the visuals in this ep were really, really good.

The only down side of the ep for me is that Kate was there. She STILL annoys me! Nope, don't like her at all, sorry Damian but your plan for the fans to love her by the end of the season has failed with this one fan :S

jelgate
December 19th, 2009, 01:50 PM
At first I was ready to hate it because it looked like another Will and Helen episode. As I was proven wrong I enjoyed the story as it was another selfish Tesla moment. And it was fun at the end seeing the reprecussions of Tesla's action. But I have two nitpicks

1. I rolled my eyes at the notion of triple helix DNA. It was so stupid.
2. Given everything he has done it seem rather careless for Helen to let Tesla go

DigiFluid
December 19th, 2009, 03:07 PM
Loved that Tesla had set up shop in Mexico, I was having flashbacks of Harry Maybourne in the Caribbean :D I really enjoyed it when stuck up rich vampire girl made fun of Kate's god-awful "thrift shop" clothing.

Nikola was hilarious all the way through the episode. From setting up shop in Mexico, to making fun of the stuck up morons, "you've taken a symphony and turned it into rock and roll! French-Canadian rock and roll!" How easily he manipulated them--even if it was a bit predictable. Making fun of Kate in the closet, and telling the kids they're done ("You're fired", "sit, stay", "hey Chad, my man, my bro"). Hilarious, all the way through :D

"Last of the Five" is a little ridiculous though. Druitt's not dead, he's just out there again. Just like he'd been for a century before the end of S1/beginning of S2 episodes. There's two of 'em. No drama in that line at all, and because it's incorrect, it fails to answer why she's so frantically trying to help Nikola.

I'm not sure what to make of de-vampiring him though. Why would he make the weapon double-ended? Why would he make a weapon to de-vampire his halfbreeds that would work on himself? I'm a bit baffled by his telekinesis/magnetism. Should be interesting to see where that ends up!

Really terrific closing scene of the episode, with Helen and Nikola. Something very, very nice about it. And the music over it was perfect too. Fun episode this week :)



edit; Oh, here's a thought. Druitt's MIA because he was hunting down ever last member of the Cabal. At last check, the Cabal has the vampire source blood. Am I predicting an eventual re-vampire-ization of Nikola? Yes I am :D

tricky
December 19th, 2009, 03:45 PM
Ok, i must confess, I was ready to hate this episode: Teen Vampires are a scourge on our televisions!

But, I found my self liking this episode. I guess the evil genius in me totally got Tesla's problem with the Vamp-pack's plan: They have no idea what they are, and they are as subtle as a hammer!
Plus, humans beat vamp's before, with them being the best and brightest. These clowns got beat in a couple days! Can you imagine a vampire kingdom created by people who only know twilight as the only source of vampire knowlege?
Why didn't Tesla just fry the kids with electricity before they threw him off the roof? I'm going to miss his CGI vamp face, but I hope the PTB will see clear to him becoming more than he was (maybe, he'll become the Abnormal leader I've been waiting for...he does have magnetisim now!)

majorsal
December 19th, 2009, 03:58 PM
fun episode! :D

oodles of fun and funny moments, and i just love tesla. the actor (jonathan young?) has totally made this character unique.

LOVED the snark/banter between helen and tesla!! :D :p

it really was just cute all around. :)

but i learned something last night...

when helen finally came on screen, i actually took a gaspy breath... i think i realized how much i love helen now (just her coming on screen brought everything up to a higher level and class). she's a GREAT character, and deserves her own show! :D

wait, she 'does' have her own show. :p

now i'll go read replies and repy myself. :)

Skydiver
December 19th, 2009, 04:15 PM
i had the same question about hte double ended devamper (there has to be a writer's room joke in there)

why make a vulnerability into it?

then again, he underestimated them accidentally getting vamped by death, he underestimated their strength and power, he underestimated their quest for power...so he probably just didn't think through his devamper....he made it, it should work, good enough

not enough troubleshooting

which is one of nikola's weaknesses, his own arrogance

wine_buyer
December 19th, 2009, 04:21 PM
fun episode! :D

oodles of fun and funny moments, and i just love tesla. the actor (jonathan young?) has totally made this character unique.

LOVED the snark/banter between helen and tesla!! :D :p

it really was just cute all around. :)

but i learned something last night...

when helen finally came on screen, i actually took a gaspy breath... i think i realized how much i love helen now (just her coming on screen brought everything up to a higher level and class). she's a GREAT character, and deserves her own show! :D

wait, she 'does' have her own show. :p

now i'll go read replies and repy myself. :)

back of the line Sally. :D

Very funny :rolleyes: :D

One of my favorite scenes in this one is when they go to rescue Tesla and take on the Vamps and this is part of the conversation that takes place in the car:
Magnus: they may be rich, spoiled, insolent children but that doesn't mean we shouldn't save them.
Will and Kate exchange looks
Magnus: That's a terrible sales pitch.
Will and Kate nod in unison.

Amanda's expressions in this scene were perfect. :D Also, in this (or another thread) *has fuzzy memory skills* we discussed how much some of us liked seeing the darker side of Helen and the occasionally out of control Helen but I also love seeing the humor that comes through as well.

The character of Helen has developed a lot this season and it's been nice seeing the different sides to her as opposed to the somewhat stiff and stoic Helen we were first introduced to in the beginning of Season 1

Eternal Density
December 19th, 2009, 04:21 PM
Well... I can work with that!

Excellent, fun episode, with some bittersweet moments too. I rather liked the 'last of the Five' bit - I was thinking the same thing myself before Helen said it. Also, Helen saying she'd invented that move was nice.
I quite liked the vampkids coming back to life scenes too.

majorsal
December 19th, 2009, 04:25 PM
I thought it was another excellent episode.

Jonathan plays Tesla so perfectly it's unreal. As the audience I think you can really relate to Helen's feelings about him; you know he's an arrogant arse that causes a world of trouble but you can't help but like him! :)

The end was pitched perfectly, with the sad shock of him losing his powers and then the reveal. I think they knew the audience wouldn't have been happy if Tesla had been left totally human. It'll be fascinating to see where he goes from here.

There's also an obvious opportunity for him to re-vamp in the future if they wish - it's already been established that he's a genius, so it certainly wouldn't be infeasible that one day he finds something Helen missed.

Definitely hope to see Jonathan back for more episodes next season.

someone on twitter spoiled the tesla losing his powers thinger :mad:, so there's another place to stay away from until i see the ep. but anyways, i'm glad helen and company worked so hard to revamp tesla. really, that's insane to try to make him a vampire again :p, but that goes to show how much they care for him (helen especially).

i felt a wee bit of interest for a helen/tesla ship, but that was in the scene where tesla said he'd been waiting for this moment, when he had helen tied up and... got to love that character! :p

amanda and jonathan play well off each other. :)

majorsal
December 19th, 2009, 04:34 PM
the kiddie vamps were cringeworthy at points. not much depth given to them



i think they were meant to be. look at how dumb they were in many parts of the ep, and where helen-wil-kate were interrogating that one vamp chick and kate said about how the bullets were laced with holy water and all these other cliches. it was funny. :p

but i do know what you guys are meaning about them (that one girl's acting didn't help), but i think it was just to really show us how 'cool' the real thing was (tesla). :p

oh, i :lol: when vamp chick called helen a b**ch. :p

majorsal
December 19th, 2009, 04:41 PM
Definitely enjoyed this episode. great to see Tesla again. I love his interactions with Helen. And they have an interesting relationship--they have a bond but he still drives her nuts. :)
Though I felt kind of bad for Tesla when he lost his vampness, I was kind of glad too. The show could definitely go overboard with vampires. This opens up some new possiblities.
We should definitely see Tesla a few times a season. :)
Looking forward to rewatching this one. (can we hope JY does the commentary on the dvd with AT? please?) :)

so, season 3, helen continues to help tesla find his vampness. he thinks he's found it, and by testing it, bites helen... she's either part vampire, or she's drawn to him and... i want to see this happen on the show! :p

^^ that was speculation, no actual spoilers

majorsal
December 19th, 2009, 04:54 PM
[...] it fails to answer why she's so frantically trying to help Nikola.


i 'think', b/c helen actually likes tesla. and, i think she might have felt some empathy with him, maybe wondering what it would be like to lose her 'power'... maybe she realized she'd not be happy with it either?

but this is just guessing. :p

atlantis_babe34
December 19th, 2009, 04:56 PM
"You can Bite me... Biatch"

ahah loved that part.. Helen's experssion was great the whole "I - Will - End- you" look :D

overall great episode.. i giggled a little when tesla was falling and onto the car "i hate then, oh i hate them so much" :D

fun epsidoe 8/10

majorsal
December 19th, 2009, 05:01 PM
Also, in this (or another thread) *has fuzzy memory skills* we discussed how much some of us liked seeing the darker side of Helen and the occasionally out of control Helen but I also love seeing the humor that comes through as well.


yes. ;)

and amanda's so good at it! :p

Dr Lee
December 19th, 2009, 05:47 PM
Liked the SDCC reference and Biggie. I wonder if the "bloody awful" line was an intentional reference to Top Gear?

Why would Sanctuary be referencing Top Gear?

'Plus, you gotta admit, Vampires are just plain cool'

Brilliantly delivered by JY.... that and the WONDERFUL bit of music (Which, and i dunno if this was intentional or not, seem to have the vocals 'Want you back' over the dedication:danielanime08:.....)

Biggie and Henry at SDCC.. :lol:

Tesla getting hit by the car was a real bolt from the blue...... and left me LMAO

prsweety
December 19th, 2009, 06:07 PM
ok...i really don't know what to make of it...seems Sanctuary's writing has gotten more...i don't even know what to call it....S1 was more angsty...more of a story line...S2 seems to be more stand alone eppys...i have my reservations on this episode...it was kind of scattered every where although of course...AT, and RD did some funny stuff...

I loved the Telsa Helen moment "FOCUS Nicola" was great....but over- all i don't know how i feel about S2....just not the same....my mom no longer watches, nor my sister...but i'm a faithful fan, and want to stick it through no matter what...oh and btw....no that s3 has been given the green lite...we all should tweet amanda and say "ASHley needs to come back"

Mack_1
December 19th, 2009, 08:29 PM
but i learned something last night...

when helen finally came on screen, i actually took a gaspy breath... i think i realized how much i love helen now (just her coming on screen brought everything up to a higher level and class). she's a GREAT character, and deserves her own show! :D
I was thinking about how Amanda has been able to distance the Helen character from the Sam Carter character over at SG-1 and she has done it wonderfully.

I’m like you when I see Helen come on, she is really good and I have to admire her talent to give this fictional "person" that difference and life and she just looks beautiful.

Sam has her own beauty too, I love them both... they are played by the same wonderful actress LOL:sam:

Love the scene with Helen and Tesla; the looks they give each other and the feelings they display are very touchy you can tell Helen really likes Tesla even if he has been a pain in her **s for more than a decade she likes him and also the thought of losing someone else so soon really hits her.

also the reference to the vine Churchill gave her and the looked Kate gives Will at that comment and Will goes long story.

Wonder if they are going to take in that fact on Helen’s life the D Day that be really good…I think.

majorsal
December 19th, 2009, 08:40 PM
I was thinking about how Amanda has been able to distance the Helen character from the Sam Carter character over at SG-1 and she has done it wonderfully.

I’m like you when I see Helen come on, she is really good and I have to admire her talent to give this fictional "person" that difference and life and she just looks beautiful.



i don't think it really hit me until it *hit* me, as i explained seeing the ep last night.

sam's still my fave right now (*years* of character), but i finally know i really 'love' helen. :)

hehe :o :D

Inquisitor
December 19th, 2009, 09:22 PM
I think Jonathan Young may (at least) get nominated for an award for best supporting actor for this role as Tesla.

majorsal
December 19th, 2009, 09:25 PM
I think Jonathan Young may (at least) get nominated for an award for best supporting actor for this role as Tesla.

he deserves it! ;)

someone tell me what magneta does. he's from the x-men, right? if they're following that movie, i'd like to know what tesla might end up like. :p

suse
December 19th, 2009, 09:29 PM
I saw the second half of the ep last night. Saw the whole thing today.

Those darn kids got *very* old *VERY* fast. Seriously. Someone bought into the Twilight crap. imho. Or they were making fun of it. Either way, it was too much. Too. Much.

I liked the Sanctuary people bits. Lots of good one-liners. :lol: at the SDCC reference.

Jonathan Young did a great job.

Didn't Tesla convert a lot? What about those? Some are gonna die sooner than 30 years too...

suse
December 19th, 2009, 09:33 PM
Oh and Kate's lines actually worked this time. I liked her in this ep. Except for the whole bit about garlic, cross and stakes :S Thats lame.

Laura was lame. It makes sense that she would buy the lameness. She obviously doesn't know the truth about the Vampires yet.

It was especially funny after Tesla's "It's beyond insulting" speech in The Five. :D

RealmOfX
December 19th, 2009, 10:13 PM
he deserves it! ;)

someone tell me what magneta does. he's from the x-men, right? if they're following that movie, i'd like to know what tesla might end up like. :p

Magneto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto_(comics))

KaKaCarter
December 20th, 2009, 02:48 AM
Very conflicted about this episode. It has Tesla in it and i think JY did an excellent job again with the role. I was just less thrilled by some of the twists and turns. Tesla's initial capture was lame. For some reason he didn't get involved in the fight and got knocked over by a car and captured. Tesla losing his vampireness was very disappointing too. The magnetic thing seemed a bit lame really. There must be some of that cabal source blood left!

Liked the teenage vamps trying to turn their friend steve and killing him.
Liked tesla's flirtatious comment about it being a pity she'd brought the kids when he took the devamper.

Celandine
December 20th, 2009, 06:48 AM
I've now watched this ep twice as I needed time to think things over before giving my thoughts on it.

Not really my fav ep, but that might be because of the whole vampire theme. Anymore, IMO, vampires are so obsolete. When Buffy came on the scene, it was fresh and excitingly new, but I've grown tired with the hype surrounding vamps for now what with Twilight and everything else. Personally, I'm more than glad TPTB decided to drop this power in Tesla and decided to pick up something a bit more unique and fresh. I'm definitely looking forward to Tesla exploring more of his 'Magneto' side and can't help ponder some of the exciting plots involving him using this.


i had the same question about hte double ended devamper (there has to be a writer's room joke in there)

why make a vulnerability into it?

then again, he underestimated them accidentally getting vamped by death, he underestimated their strength and power, he underestimated their quest for power...so he probably just didn't think through his devamper....he made it, it should work, good enough

not enough troubleshooting

which is one of nikola's weaknesses, his own arrogance

Can't agree with you more as I also wondered about this. You'd think he would take into consideration all the possible outcomes in making this de-vamper. Hate to say it, but Tesla deserved everything he got for his inflated ego.

One that note, I did love Kate's response to Tesla name for his creation:
"I call it...the Devamper!'
"Your a genius and that is the best name you can come up with?"

This part did make me laugh outright. Her disdain was so dripping. :P

I do hope Henry and BF make an appearance soon in the shows to come, though images of them surfing and going to the San Diego CC as fanboys does make me smirk. I love how TPTB have a sense of humor rather than say they were away on business which is just dull. They do love to titillate our imaginations. ;)

Helen as usual took my breath away with her beauty and she was so spot on with her lines and reactions. I do know my gf was poking me quite a bit with my intense interest when we watched it together. Of course, she can't help but agree with me on the subject..heh.

Now I just need to get through the withdrawal of a few weeks hiatus from the show. Darn holidays getting in the way! :P

Inquisitor
December 20th, 2009, 07:46 AM
I think the lack of Henry and The Big Guy might be to get viewers to focus on the development of Kate.

jckfan55
December 20th, 2009, 07:54 AM
so, season 3, helen continues to help tesla find his vampness. he thinks he's found it, and by testing it, bites helen... she's either part vampire, or she's drawn to him and... i want to see this happen on the show! :p

^^ that was speculation, no actual spoilers
Nah, I can't go along with that, my friend.


i 'think', b/c helen actually likes tesla. and, i think she might have felt some empathy with him, maybe wondering what it would be like to lose her 'power'... maybe she realized she'd not be happy with it either?

but this is just guessing. :p
Yes, they have a weird bond. And come to think of it Helen's awfully forgiving of her fellow 5; or at least practical. Tesla did try to have her killed after all. And she finds a way to work with druitt despite his murderous ways.

Inquisitor
December 20th, 2009, 08:10 AM
And she finds a way to work with druitt despite his murderous ways.
Tesla concocted something which dimmed this down.

Gem of Tigress
December 20th, 2009, 09:29 AM
:eek: NO!!!! you can't de-vamp Tesla! :eek:

EvenstarSRV
December 20th, 2009, 11:09 AM
Yes, they have a weird bond. And come to think of it Helen's awfully forgiving of her fellow 5; or at least practical. Tesla did try to have her killed after all. And she finds a way to work with druitt despite his murderous ways.

She really is very tolerant of them, or specifically of Druitt and Tesla, since she was on good terms with Watson, and we don't know much about Griffin. I guess it makes sense since those 4 guys have been the one constant, in a way, in her life. The world and everything else has changed, but some part of the Five has always been there.

Now that Tesla has been devamped, I'm guessing he's also lost his immortality, despite his new magnetic powers. So Helen and Druitt are the only 'immortals' left, and it seems like in Haunted

something happens that leads to Druitt disappearing, perhaps like he did in Sanctuary for All when Helen presumed he was dead.

moofers
December 20th, 2009, 11:54 AM
I do feel obliged to point out that Magnetism and Electricity are basically the same thing. So maybe Tesla desanguinated without deelectromagnetisming.

Still meh on Kate — and an episode without Henry is an episode without sunshine. (Not that I didn't love the Tesla.)

Rose "Snapjinx" McKnight
December 20th, 2009, 12:09 PM
After three days recovering from this astounding episode, I can finally put my opinion into words. (Albeit very short words)

Booooo, Tesla's not a vampire! But mostly, I'm just sad for him. The way he pathetically said "I'm ordinary" nearly made me cry. :(

Hey, but he's happy in the end with the new powers. :D

I've really missed his character this season. When he enters with that "Hola, amigos!" I think I squeed for a minute straight.

I hope his new power means he'll have to hang around the Sanctuary for a few episodes more. ^-^

As for the episode itself though, it was fantastic! I mean, the rich-kid-vampires were so annoying, but I liked that because it just made Tesla so much more snarky and hilarious.

Hooray for Sanctuary!

majorsal
December 20th, 2009, 01:39 PM
There must be some of that cabal source blood left!



speaking of that, doesn't helen have some of her own blood left, in vials (that she gave to john once)?

majorsal
December 20th, 2009, 01:47 PM
Yes, they have a weird bond. And come to think of it Helen's awfully forgiving of her fellow 5; or at least practical. Tesla did try to have her killed after all. And she finds a way to work with druitt despite his murderous ways.

that's making me think. stop that. :p

but yeah, she *is* quite forgiving... maybe like a group of youngsters experimenting, and it going kind of bad. she remembers them all like they were before the screwed with things and altered themselves permanently. and maybe because she was the first to try it, she might feel a bit of responsibility in that they saw she was alright, so they went second, third, so on?

it really does give food for thought. :)

majorsal
December 20th, 2009, 01:49 PM
Now that Tesla has been devamped, I'm guessing he's also lost his immortality, despite his new magnetic powers.

i was wondering that, about whether tesla lost it. we don't really know, do we?? (i hope not)

sandra-carter
December 20th, 2009, 02:07 PM
good episode I love the interaction between Nicola and Helen, but when he electrified the boys to become human again, I was intrigued because if I remember nicola electrified Ashley, she was not supposed to be human? "I do not know but whatever was this new invention of nicola, will take to bring Ashley back to its normal state .... Season 3 only in a few months but I 'm dying to see what will happen .:S.. the Druitt episode , is that in 2 weeks *******s:mad:



is a pity I'm anxious to see the episode Helen / Druitt can be seen as aired in the UK?
not on the web, already tried, If anyone has the episode or know where find it tell me please ...

Eternal Density
December 20th, 2009, 02:12 PM
I liked the "we can do vampires on the show... but now they're extinct, ha!" angle :D It makes the point that Sanctuary isn't a vampire show, that's just one of the many things it can borrow for an ep.

Skydiver
December 20th, 2009, 03:36 PM
I'm not sure if Helen is accepting as much as....these guys are the only ones that REALLY know what it's like. they're the only ones that know what it's like to keep outliving everyone, to see history repeating itself over and over

it's also possible that, 'a hundred years ago' when helen founded the sanctuaries, tesla, watson, griffin all helped her. they helped her achieve her dreams so she owes them her dreams, and the lives of every abby she's helped.

there's a bond and 'blood debt' that will always exist

it would be like, to drag sg1 into it, sam and her team will always be there for each other, always.

Rocky89
December 20th, 2009, 03:55 PM
Even though I haven't seen this episode, or penance :(, I saw that on imdb this episode is dedicated to the memory of Jonathon Young's kids. Respect and commiserations. Well, even though I haven't seen the episode yet, I can tell it certainly did not disappoint in terms of honoring his family.

Jeffer
December 20th, 2009, 04:23 PM
good episode i wonder if maybe in season 3 Ashley comes back and they use some of her blood/DNA to Re-Vamp Tesla or maybe they use Tesla's de-vamper on her

kes
December 21st, 2009, 01:59 AM
I've now watched this ep twice as I needed time to think things over before giving my thoughts on it.

Not really my fav ep, but that might be because of the whole vampire theme. Anymore, IMO, vampires are so obsolete. When Buffy came on the scene, it was fresh and excitingly new, but I've grown tired with the hype surrounding vamps for now what with Twilight and everything else. Personally, I'm more than glad TPTB decided to drop this power in Tesla and decided to pick up something a bit more unique and fresh. I'm definitely looking forward to Tesla exploring more of his 'Magneto' side and can't help ponder some of the exciting plots involving him using this.



I understand the whole tired of vamps thing, but I think Tesla is a breath of fresh air. Specially the way the mock all the vampire myths lol
Since I never liked Buffy and dont watch the other shows like True blood and all that crap. I still really like vamps :D





is a pity I'm anxious to see the episode Helen / Druitt can be seen as aired in the UK?
not on the web, already tried, If anyone has the episode or know where find it tell me please ...

Haunted was suppose to air today (Monday) but ITV changed the order. So it will be Sleepers. I'm gonna stay tuned to see if it is actually Sleepers and not some mess up like Syfy.

Jeffer
December 21st, 2009, 02:21 AM
Haunted was suppose to air today (Monday) but ITV changed the order. So it will be Sleepers. I'm gonna stay tuned to see if it is actually Sleepers and not some mess up like Syfy.

now that you mention this the "Johns Departure" line did seem a little out of place

hisg1fans
December 21st, 2009, 02:39 AM
that's making me think. stop that. :p

but yeah, she *is* quite forgiving... maybe like a group of youngsters experimenting, and it going kind of bad. she remembers them all like they were before the screwed with things and altered themselves permanently. and maybe because she was the first to try it, she might feel a bit of responsibility in that they saw she was alright, so they went second, third, so on?

it really does give food for thought. :)

I liked the episode. Need to see it again though.

I watched it at my sister's house with her watching too for the first time. She wanted me to explain the story, so maybe there is a new convert :) Maybe this is a new twist to the holiday progamming mindset. As people travel, they get others to watch Sanctuary, which means more viewers over all !

Do we actually know Helen has always been "good"?

Maybe she went through a spell of "badness" like Druitt and Tesla, so she has some sympathy for going through a phase like that. Or maybe she was born good and they were born bad. No matter what happens, they each tend to go back to their basic nature. Or maybe she is trying to make up for what her Father did to abnormals. Just ideas.

I like the idea of the SG1 team relationship too. Some bonds last through everything. Maybe the Tesla we are seeing now is really good compared to what he used to be, so she sticks with him to see the progress.

I absolutely love NY as Tesla. What a character!

SamJackShipper93
December 21st, 2009, 03:42 AM
now that you mention this the "Johns Departure" line did seem a little out of place

Extremely. It makes me so angry that SyFy would switch their order and spoil episodes that haven't happened yet. :mckay:

First the name change and now this? :S

*kicks SyFy*

kes
December 21st, 2009, 03:51 AM
now that you mention this the "Johns Departure" line did seem a little out of place

Not really, he's been gone since Eulogy.

Chelle DB
December 21st, 2009, 04:08 AM
Not really, he's been gone since Eulogy.
That's what I was thinking. He left in Eulogy...to me that was his departure. I guess once we see Haunted, we'll know if it was the wrong way around...but Jaclyn MacRae said this on Twitter tonight:

JaclynMacrae: @kesland Haunted will air as #Sanctuary 211 in the new year... 210 is Sleepers :).
OrientalLilly(Me!!): @jaclynmacrae So Sleepers being before Haunted is the correct order?Many rumours saying it should be the other way around. Thanks Jaclyn! :)
JaclynMacrae: @OrientalLilly @celticdenefew - we're just keeping all of you on your toes... #Sanctuary :)
OrientalLilly(Me!!): @jaclynmacrae Cheeky monkey!!! :p My poor toes! Goodnight Jaclyn! :D

kes
December 21st, 2009, 04:37 AM
That's what I was thinking. He left in Eulogy...to me that was his departure. I guess once we see Haunted, we'll know if it was the wrong way around...but Jaclyn MacRae said this on Twitter tonight:

JaclynMacrae: @kesland Haunted will air as #Sanctuary 211 in the new year... 210 is Sleepers :).
OrientalLilly(Me!!): @jaclynmacrae So Sleepers being before Haunted is the correct order?Many rumours saying it should be the other way around. Thanks Jaclyn! :)
JaclynMacrae: @OrientalLilly @celticdenefew - we're just keeping all of you on your toes... #Sanctuary :)
OrientalLilly(Me!!): @jaclynmacrae Cheeky monkey!!! :p My poor toes! Goodnight Jaclyn! :D


When I get home I must reply cos even Syfy was thinking Haunted should be before. regardless of what she says now, haunted was schedual as ep 10.

sandra-carter
December 21st, 2009, 04:40 AM
Not really, he's been gone since Eulogy.

yeah it's true "sleepers" was written for the episode 4 then ... is not entirely wrong, I believe that Helen said that but it was in regards to "jonh departure" in eulogy because we never saw him again until now(sleepers) so.. I belive that will be much more jonh on season 3 if they bring Ashley back (I hope so)

kes
December 21st, 2009, 04:50 AM
yeah it's true "sleepers" was written for the episode 4 then ... is not entirely wrong, I believe that Helen said that but it was in regards to "jonh departure" in eulogy because we never saw him again until now(sleepers) so.. I belive that will be much more jonh on season 3 if they bring Ashley back (I hope so)

What I mean is that everyone is reading like a comment from Haunted but I dont read it that way cos he's been messing since Eulogy. Till Haunted airs I'm gonna go with that :D

atlantis_babe34
December 21st, 2009, 05:21 AM
i honestly wouldn't read that much into it, becuase John's been gone for months.. like he did the first time obviosuly she has some sort of inkiling that hes going to go off the rails.. hmm

Jeffer
December 21st, 2009, 08:29 AM
Not really, he's been gone since Eulogy.

It was all in the way she said "Departure" like hes not John anymore

Celandine
December 21st, 2009, 08:59 AM
now that you mention this the "Johns Departure" line did seem a little out of place


It was all in the way she said "Departure" like hes not John anymore

I'd have to be in agreement here. It seemed to me like Helen was counting off on her fingers the others who have left the 'Five.' Watson and Griffin have passed. Tesla was de-vamped and as far as I think Helen knew, perhaps not immortal anymore. Which left John and herself.

Will's line about why Helen was so adamant about trying to reverse Tesla's actions in Sleepers and his dawning comprehension that she was the last of the Five made Helen's line about John's 'Departure' a bit confusing. Something had to have happened that we missed. Druitt is simply, IMO, not just away chasing down the Cabal for what they did to Ashley. Why did Helen believe she was the last of the 'Five' now?


That's what I was thinking. He left in Eulogy...to me that was his departure. I guess once we see Haunted, we'll know if it was the wrong way around...but Jaclyn MacRae said this on Twitter tonight:

JaclynMacrae: @kesland Haunted will air as #Sanctuary 211 in the new year... 210 is Sleepers :).
OrientalLilly(Me!!): @jaclynmacrae So Sleepers being before Haunted is the correct order?Many rumours saying it should be the other way around. Thanks Jaclyn! :)
JaclynMacrae: @OrientalLilly @celticdenefew - we're just keeping all of you on your toes... #Sanctuary :)
OrientalLilly(Me!!): @jaclynmacrae Cheeky monkey!!! :p My poor toes! Goodnight Jaclyn! :D

That tweet isn't conclusive and to me it seems she successfully dodged around the subject. I really do dislike when people can't just give a simple, straightforward 'yes' or 'no' to a question. :P

jckfan55
December 21st, 2009, 10:19 AM
Well, I'm not overly concerned. All will be revealed. ;)

RealmOfX
December 21st, 2009, 12:37 PM
That's what I was thinking. He left in Eulogy...to me that was his departure. I guess once we see Haunted, we'll know if it was the wrong way around...but Jaclyn MacRae said this on Twitter tonight:

JaclynMacrae: @kesland Haunted will air as #Sanctuary 211 in the new year... 210 is Sleepers :).
OrientalLilly(Me!!): @jaclynmacrae So Sleepers being before Haunted is the correct order?Many rumours saying it should be the other way around. Thanks Jaclyn! :)
JaclynMacrae: @OrientalLilly @celticdenefew - we're just keeping all of you on your toes... #Sanctuary :)
OrientalLilly(Me!!): @jaclynmacrae Cheeky monkey!!! :p My poor toes! Goodnight Jaclyn! :D

We know that they are the wrong way around now Chelle. Some of us have been digging out spoilers since the announcement of Season 2 and Haunted was always slotted as ep 10. No biggie though, it's not the first time an ep has been shown out of order and the comment can be explained away.

kes
December 21st, 2009, 12:38 PM
I'd have to be in agreement here. It seemed to me like Helen was counting off on her fingers the others who have left the 'Five.' Watson and Griffin have passed. Tesla was de-vamped and as far as I think Helen knew, perhaps not immortal anymore. Which left John and herself.

Will's line about why Helen was so adamant about trying to reverse Tesla's actions in Sleepers and his dawning comprehension that she was the last of the Five made Helen's line about John's 'Departure' a bit confusing. Something had to have happened that we missed. Druitt is simply, IMO, not just away chasing down the Cabal for what they did to Ashley. Why did Helen believe she was the last of the 'Five' now?



That tweet isn't conclusive and to me it seems she successfully dodged around the subject. I really do dislike when people can't just give a simple, straightforward 'yes' or 'no' to a question. :P

In my case it was an answer. I RT what she wrote but before I wrote that it should be Haunted.

kes
December 21st, 2009, 12:40 PM
We know that they are the wrong way around now Chelle. Some of us have been digging out spoilers since the announcement of Season 2 and Haunted was always slotted as ep 10. No biggie though, it's not the first time an ep has been shown out of order and the comment can be explained away.

Its a good thing Syfy has correct the site, otherwise I wouldnt be surprised if they posted the podcast for Haunted instead of Sleepers LOLOLOL

Amalthea
December 21st, 2009, 01:02 PM
Great episode! Tesla is just so fantastic!

I loved the "French Canadian Rock and Roll" comment. We were all laughing so hard here I had to rewind so we could catch the rest of the dialogue.

Just as he was zapping the last guy, I was thinking, "I wonder what would happen if he zapped himself?" And then he did. I'm not surprised he got a new power, though- he only neutralized being a vamp, not the source blood. Makes me wonder what would happen to the surviving Five if somehow their powers were neutralized? Would new ones surface?

I love how they keep it all current referencing other TV shows. Good stuff!

Matt G
December 21st, 2009, 02:55 PM
1. Oi, that's my generation they're taking the mick out of - if anyone in their 20s who wasn't a Sancturary fan got vamped then they'd probably assume the myths were true untill proven otherwise.

2. Tesla went out with class!

3. Kate was definately on form here.

4. Did not expect Tesla to get de-vamped but the magnetism should certainly be cool!

Fun stuff!

The_Carpenter
December 22nd, 2009, 01:42 PM
1. I rolled my eyes at the notion of triple helix DNA. It was so stupid.


Agreed, I was also amused to see a Fraction Collector in use at Helen's desk at the end of the episode.... despite not being connected to anything! We have what looks like the same model at work just irked me.

Other than those points.... great episode!

Inquisitor
December 22nd, 2009, 09:28 PM
Actually, a triple helix model was considered before the double helix model. Perhaps the Nobel prize winners who proposed/discovered the double helix model (their names slip my mind) were using source blood when they were thinking of the triple helix model! :P

angelfire east
December 23rd, 2009, 09:19 AM
I feel sad that Tesla is no longer a vampire if only because he is no longer immortal. Course he's got new super powers now so that's cool. I'm sad he can no longer control electricity because I simply loved the idea that Tesla, a man who worked with alternating electric current, would have electric super power. We saw him use one super power who knows in time there could be more to what he can do. So he's not "ordinary" anymore. Not that he ever was even before coming one of the five.

I was with Helen hoping Nikola could become a vampire again as he's one of the five. I want the five or rather the three to live for a very long time (longer then it's already been).

LOL at Henry & the Big Guy going to comic con LOL Big fan boys the both of them:D I love it:D Second episode both guys have been off having fun together. I miss seeing them but I love that they together having together. I wonder if it's as buddies or father/son? Either way brilliant!

Those 'kids' would be rotten selfish jerks with or without turning into vampires. They are selfish spoil brats. In 30 years I can't picture some of them being that much better of people. They'll just be powerful older d-bags. They really didn't care that they killed their friend. At least the girl cared for few seconds.

I love Nicola's reaction to finding out one of next generation dropped out of med school because the parties where lame. He was like the final insult that make him hate the little buggers even more.

LOL at the name Tesla made up for his fake doctor. LOL at the dig at French Canadian Rock & Roll. + The nameless female blond vamp totally wanted to get with Nicola. I don't blame her:p Jonathon Young is so funny "I hate them! oh, ah, I hate them!" after he got thrown off the building. Then "Clad man, my bro, we can work this out" Just every line he delivers is magic! And "I'm ordinary"

I love that Nikola never misses a moment to hint on/flirt with Helen. Also the bit about imagining Helen tied up. Kinky! lol I love that Nikola hid the devamper at Helen's Sanctuary. He knows Helen knows him so well and will find it and fix his mess if there's trouble. I thought the devamper in underground vampire layer the source blood was kept. I loved the scene between Helen and Nikola. The music playing was just the perfect touch.

Don't they have that blood bag from Nikola while he was still a vamp? Couldn't they use that somehow? It wasn't mentioned.

I like that they the episode was in memory of Jonathon's daughter, niece and nephew.

mjwalshe
December 23rd, 2009, 02:39 PM
Now that he's gotten the whole 'Resurrect The Vampire Race!!' thing out of his system, maybe Tesla can get around to the project he should've been working on this whole time: Operation Resurrect Watson and Griffin. He can devote the whole of Season 3 to it, that's fine, but the Five are one of the best things about this series and they've been dropping like flies!

Speaking of which, was anyone else disappointed that Tesla didn't hide the Devamper in a copy of The Invisible Man or The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes? The entire time they were in Magnus's library, I was like 'Head over to Arthur Conan Doyle, people!' Le sigh.

Someone needs to track down Druitt and inform him Tesla's no longer immortal. I think Druitt would actually be kind of irritated: here's this obnoxious little know-it-all that he can no longer push off of skyscrapers. How's he supposed to let off steam without maiming Tesla?

And for that matter, I'm crying foul on the whole 'teen vamps take down Tesla' thing. The man hobnobbed with Sherlock Holmes and spent an inordinate amount of time ****ing off Jack the Ripper: you don't do either without picking up some skills. Though that shot of Tesla getting hit by a car was one of the funniest things I've seen in a while.

Yes he was monologuing and that shot just cried out for a rection shot from Helen

creed462
December 24th, 2009, 11:47 AM
Why would Tesla make a device that would harm himself, He tends to plan around things, what if this is a rouse to get Helen off his sent for a later plan

Alder
December 25th, 2009, 03:34 AM
Watching the episode, so haven't read the thread yet...

* Funny how appealing Tesla is, despite his arrogance. He's so pleased with his own genius, it gives him tunnel vision, though. I mean, even I could've worked out that if he used smug, spoilt, bratty kids, he'd end up with smug, spoilt, bratty vampires. Silly Tesla.

* Also, given the scale of the problem - the resurgence of the most dangerous abnormal ever to walk the earth - shouldn't Magnus really have recalled Henry and the Big Guy?

* And, what, Tesla made the de-vamper work from both ends? Well that was just...not...smart. I'm disappointed in you, Nikola...

* Magnetism. Huh.

Tiger
December 25th, 2009, 06:37 AM
* Magnetism. Huh.

I'm with you there.
Immediately I thought; oh great another Magneto?

I really liked Tesla as a Vampire, you gotta admit, being the last of an amazing race; you'd try to help your race from being exstinct.
There's gotta be a way Helen can bring out the Vampire in Tesla. She got her hands on 'untampered vampire blood' before, there has to be another way.

....future thought.....Tesla gets the blood back from the Cabal and gets Ashley back on the way out....just imagining here...

Skydiver
December 25th, 2009, 08:11 AM
that source blood has to be somewhere

i'mnot ready to call tesla permanently devamped

i think devamping is like death - only temporary in scifi land :)

Inquisitor
December 25th, 2009, 11:44 PM
I don't understand why if the teenagers were vampires and the source blood was vampire blood they didn't take their blood?

Amalthea
December 26th, 2009, 11:13 AM
that source blood has to be somewhere

i'mnot ready to call tesla permanently devamped

i think devamping is like death - only temporary in scifi land :)

100% agree! I wouldn't be surprised if we saw another adventure with Tesla, Magnus and Druitt off to get the blood again. I don't believe for a second that Tesla will just give up his Vampdom, no matter how cool his electromagnetism may be.

Tracy Jane
December 27th, 2009, 07:50 AM
Actually, a triple helix model was considered before the double helix model. Perhaps the Nobel prize winners who proposed/discovered the double helix model (their names slip my mind) were using source blood when they were thinking of the triple helix model! :P
You mean Dr. James Watson? (No, I'm not taking the mickey).

shanna1
December 27th, 2009, 02:01 PM
* And, what, Tesla made the de-vamper work from both ends? Well that was just...not...smart. I'm disappointed in you, Nikola...


Well, he is arrogant. I don't think he ever imagined the devamper might be used against him like that - or, for that matter, that his entire plan might be ruined by a bunch of stupid kids. I suspect that he suffered from a touch of 'tunnel vision' (for lack of a better term) - he thought of only what he wanted to happen, not all the things that could go wrong.

lordofseas
December 27th, 2009, 02:19 PM
* And, what, Tesla made the de-vamper work from both ends? Well that was just...not...smart. I'm disappointed in you, Nikola...

Not really. If he's holding it in the middle, and then "stabs" someone, then sees another behind him, he might just want to swing his arm back, rather than turn around and stab the guy from the other end.



* Magnetism. Huh.

Magnets. :D The Answer to Everything. :P

ann_sgcfan
December 28th, 2009, 01:14 PM
As much I hated seeing Tesla lose his identity as the last vampire, his place among the Five (if they still exist) and not to mention his immortality, I still prefer they not hit the dreaded reset button. IMO the reset button destroys the tapestry of the show... Instead of telling a story and building on it, it's just constantly re-witting what's already been written, and it loses any drama - so please no resets.

What I would like to see for future eppy/season. Tesla lost the identity he has held for more than a 100+ years. He has a new ability ... How will he adjust? Where does he go from here? Does he stay at the Sanctuary as he explores his ability or does he leave again? There are lots of things he has to relearn.

shel
December 28th, 2009, 04:12 PM
Loved this episode. The whole Helen and Tesla dynamic worked really well. :D Didn't expect him to lose his vampism though, interesting twist.

wine_buyer
December 29th, 2009, 06:32 AM
Well, he is arrogant. I don't think he ever imagined the devamper might be used against him like that - or, for that matter, that his entire plan might be ruined by a bunch of stupid kids. I suspect that he suffered from a touch of 'tunnel vision' (for lack of a better term) - he thought of only what he wanted to happen, not all the things that could go wrong.

That pretty much describes Tesla to a T. :D

As for the bolded bit, this is exactly why he has never actually succeeded in taking over the world. ;)

helenmagnus23
January 1st, 2010, 12:56 AM
I love this eps Tesla is so cool :)

My favorite parts were when Helen,Will and Kate were tied up and Tesla is flirtting with Helen she so wants him and when there fighting the jr vamps very cool and the end scene between Helen and Nickola i love how he say's loosing his vamp side wont stop him taking over the world lol

Tesla with Magnetic abilities very cool

iamdragonrider
January 2nd, 2010, 06:21 AM
I think this episode is just making me fall more in love with Santuary while pointing out all the reasons why I'm so overwhelmingly still disappointed with SGU. The camaradarie, the snark, the constant plot twists and turns that make you realize that you have no idea what is going to happen next. The characters are all strong characters, and the writers are not afraid to hit you upside the head with some new twist that came far out of left field. It's fast, fun, and it makes me forgive the sometimes funny looking aliens or definitely computer generated backgrounds when something hiccups. A good show to end the season on.

Skydiver
January 2nd, 2010, 08:26 AM
Sanctuary is very much - here's the people having adventures and stories and oh by the way, here's our sets and monsters

with other shows it's - look at our great sets and wonderful effects, aint they cool...oh, an by the way, we got people too

I don't mind if things look a bit 'cheesy' at times. Like they've said in hte pod casts, they're not aiming for photo real, it's more a graphic novel so it's ok to be a bit 'cartoony'

Rose "Snapjinx" McKnight
January 2nd, 2010, 10:40 AM
I think this episode is just making me fall more in love with Santuary while pointing out all the reasons why I'm so overwhelmingly still disappointed with SGU. The camaradarie, the snark, the constant plot twists and turns that make you realize that you have no idea what is going to happen next. The characters are all strong characters, and the writers are not afraid to hit you upside the head with some new twist that came far out of left field. It's fast, fun, and it makes me forgive the sometimes funny looking aliens or definitely computer generated backgrounds when something hiccups. A good show to end the season on.

You've hit it dead-on. SGU just isn't Stargate in my opinion. I'm convinced that Martin Wood and Damian Kindler were what made Stargate Stargate.
I'm just glad they started a new project all on their own. And now we get Sanctuary! And Nikola! And amazing plotlines! And Nikola! And snark! And--
Well, I think you get it. ^_^

jckfan55
January 2nd, 2010, 12:22 PM
I think this episode is just making me fall more in love with Santuary while pointing out all the reasons why I'm so overwhelmingly still disappointed with SGU. The camaradarie, the snark, the constant plot twists and turns that make you realize that you have no idea what is going to happen next. The characters are all strong characters, and the writers are not afraid to hit you upside the head with some new twist that came far out of left field. It's fast, fun, and it makes me forgive the sometimes funny looking aliens or definitely computer generated backgrounds when something hiccups. A good show to end the season on.

Well said. The Sanctuary team recognizes that as cool as the effects might be, the audience keeps tuning in for the characters and their stories.
Heck, most of the time I forget a lot of it is CG. I think that's a tribute to the actors and the stories.

Tiger
January 2nd, 2010, 12:32 PM
Yeah I usually have to rewatch an episode to get a good look at the background. With the plots going on, character development, and intense situations they give us. I just don't really catch on that some of the CG is a bit low on the pole.

iamdragonrider
January 2nd, 2010, 02:18 PM
I think most of the time when I notice a CG hiccup it's just that. The characters or scenery is moving so quickly or changing that the angle looks off, and for a few seconds, you can clearly see that the background is a screen. Other times, it is totally worth it, and you get these amazing backdrops you'd never get anywhere else.

And a lot of the monsters, some of them are just kinda silly looking.

But I don't mind it. Because the characters work. They work with one another, they unite against a common enemey. They recruit those with a shady background, and welcome them into their fold. They mourn their friends (though I wish they hadn't killed Will's invisible woman friend, she was too cool). Magnus is such a different character from Sam Carter, that even though with eleven years of Carter behind Tapping, Magnus is different enough that aside from a few occaisional facial expressions, she's different enough that I can forget Carter and see Magnus. Magnus is stronger, more confident, in charge, uses every tool at her disposal including her femitiy. She's a bit of a self proclaimed vigilante, and sometimes her friends and coworkers even question her motives and how far she'll go. But they'll all rally around her if she can make them believe in her plan no matter how far out there. There's this unwavering loyalty she seems able to foster, even in those she has barely met.

Anyway, SGU may have more impressive special effects, sets, props, costumes, and backgrounds sometimes. But it's too much like BSG IMO, and after a season or two of that episode, I got tired of the sniping. There's no trust, no chemistry. They are stranded light years from home, and no one trusts one another. Everyone has some hidden agenda, no one makes any sacrifices for the greater good. They are too busy backstabbing and seeking their own pleasures and ensuring their own personal survival rather than the safety and survival of the whole. It emphasizes all the deeper, darker, more depressing sides of humanity, and when there is humor, it's usually the lame, boring make fun of the geek sort, rather than the light, banter, snarking between friends sort.

Skydiver
January 2nd, 2010, 03:50 PM
Sanctuary, everyone is working towards a goal. SGU, like you said, it's everyman/woman for themselves

makes a huge difference.

however, if we want to continue this topic, we should probably take it to another thread. :)

wine_buyer
January 3rd, 2010, 11:56 AM
At first I was very much in mourning for the loss of Tesla's vampirism because it was cool but the character is so much more than just his vampiric qualities that I now find myself looking forward to what they will do with him next season.

Side note: Is anyone else wondering how he put the tray down? Can he turn it on and off or did Helen have to pull it off his hand? *ponders*

Eternal Density
January 3rd, 2010, 02:04 PM
It's funny how the vamp-kids got the 'making more vamps' thing wrong... they mustn't have watched any of the right shows :P

jckfan55
January 3rd, 2010, 03:50 PM
I have a wine question. Helen says the wine from Churchill was a '45 and mentions D-Day. But D-Day was in 1944.


Would a wine produced in '44 be dated as a '45 "release?" Or maybe she got the '45 wine as a thank-you for D-day contributions?

Or I misheard or the writers screwed up.

hisg1fans
January 3rd, 2010, 03:53 PM
I have a wine question. Helen says the wine from Churchill was a '45 and mentions D-Day. But D-Day was in 1944.


Would a wine produced in '44 be dated as a '45 "release?" Or maybe she got the '45 wine as a thank-you for D-day contributions?

Or I misheard or the writers screwed up.

Correct, WWII D-Day was June 6 1944. Don't know about the wine dates. I thought the bottle was dated for the year of grape harvest. But, then I buy wine to drink, not to think ;)

hisg1fans
January 3rd, 2010, 03:56 PM
So the bad guys hacked the Sanctuary's walkies. Do you think we'll see a different kind of walkie used in future episodes? From what I've seen thus far, the show creators have used the same walkies used for SG1. But, they are a popular style, so I cut them some slack. But with the scene with Helen stepping on the hacked walkie, I wonder if they'll have a different style next time. :tealcanime49:

OK, yes I'm bored and grasping for something to say :o

jckfan55
January 3rd, 2010, 04:07 PM
But with the scene with Helen stepping on the hacked walkie, I wonder if they'll have a different style next time. :tealcanime49:

OK, yes I'm bored and grasping for something to say :o

:D Good thing Helen has those walkie-stomping shoes. :)

hisg1fans
January 3rd, 2010, 04:17 PM
:D Good thing Helen has those walkie-stomping shoes. :)

Very good thing!

Skydiver
January 3rd, 2010, 04:25 PM
well, if you want to use this as a guide, the date on wine may/may not match the date it's released

http://www.winerelease.com/

some of the wines 'released' (as in put out for sale) in 2009 were bottled in 2008, some years earlier.

so......maybe helen was with Winston in 1944, so later, maybe on the D-Day anniversary (or maybe he came for a visit to her villa in Italy...a known wine area) he gave her a bottle of wine to 'celebrate' their victory of a year or two before.

I would be very surprised if there were many bottles of 1944 anything around from europe. Although, even 1945 anything might be a stretch.

jckfan55
January 3rd, 2010, 04:41 PM
well, if you want to use this as a guide, the date on wine may/may not match the date it's released

http://www.winerelease.com/

some of the wines 'released' (as in put out for sale) in 2009 were bottled in 2008, some years earlier.

so......maybe helen was with Winston in 1944, so later, maybe on the D-Day anniversary (or maybe he came for a visit to her villa in Italy...a known wine area) he gave her a bottle of wine to 'celebrate' their victory of a year or two before.

I would be very surprised if there were many bottles of 1944 anything around from europe. Although, even 1945 anything might be a stretch.

A plausible theory--but VE day might make more sense in 1945. And yeah, it's hard to believe much wine was being produced in Italy or France in 1944-45 in the middle of the fighting.

wine_buyer
January 3rd, 2010, 04:56 PM
I have a wine question. Helen says the wine from Churchill was a '45 and mentions D-Day. But D-Day was in 1944.


Would a wine produced in '44 be dated as a '45 "release?" Or maybe she got the '45 wine as a thank-you for D-day contributions?

Or I misheard or the writers screwed up.


Correct, WWII D-Day was June 6 1944. Don't know about the wine dates. I thought the bottle was dated for the year of grape harvest. But, then I buy wine to drink, not to think ;)


well, if you want to use this as a guide, the date on wine may/may not match the date it's released

http://www.winerelease.com/

some of the wines 'released' (as in put out for sale) in 2009 were bottled in 2008, some years earlier.

so......maybe helen was with Winston in 1944, so later, maybe on the D-Day anniversary (or maybe he came for a visit to her villa in Italy...a known wine area) he gave her a bottle of wine to 'celebrate' their victory of a year or two before.

I would be very surprised if there were many bottles of 1944 anything around from europe. Although, even 1945 anything might be a stretch.

I think it's possible that the writers didn't realize the dates.

A possible theory (one I actually don't think is possible ;)) is that Churchill had an in with the winemakers and received a bottle labeled 45 prior to it's official release. This is doubtful however because the way things work (at least these days) is that a wines date refers to the year it was bottled not the year it's released. BTW-This is not necessarily true of the mass produced "affordable" wines which sometimes don't even have a date on the label.

wine_buyer
January 3rd, 2010, 05:01 PM
Side note: In 1945 both France and Italy produced some exceptional wines, especially Bordeaux's but the harvests were small. Hence the rarity of exceptional 1945 vintages.

Skydiver
January 3rd, 2010, 05:14 PM
and with soldiers of all sides fighting their way across continents, it's possible that some cases were 'liberated' then confiscated...and since people even 60 years later are just getting possessions back, it's doubtful that a bottle/case of wine would be high priority to return

thing is, even if it was to celebrate the total end of the war in aug 1945, i don't think there'd be any wine ready then. harvest and wine festivals are usually harvest festivals, sept, oct, etc. I don't even think the grapes would be ripe in august, much less ready to be bottled

I'm thinking that Damian and the guys need to google their historical references better. First there's Molly brown never going back for survivors, the fact that so very few were pulled out of the water, then D-Day a year wrong

wine_buyer
January 3rd, 2010, 05:29 PM
I agree Sky. Helen is a character with a lot of history under her belt and TPTB want to explore that but so far all they've given us is references to bits of Helens' past (a lot of name dropping) with no real relevance and they keep getting it wrong. If Helens' (and therefore the worlds) history is as important to them as they've said in interviews you would think an effort would be made to get it right.

If the writer can't or won't take the time to do the research than maybe they should leave historical references out of the episodes.

Skydiver
January 3rd, 2010, 05:42 PM
all she had to say was 'damnit, winston gave that to me after d-day' and leave the year out of it and all would be good.

now, if they want someone to fact check scripts, i got google and i know how to use it ;)

wine_buyer
January 3rd, 2010, 05:45 PM
all she had to say was 'damnit, winston gave that to me after d-day' and leave the year out of it and all would be good.

now, if they want someone to fact check scripts, i got google and i know how to use it ;)

:lol:

I only vaguely remember a world without google. ;)

ps leave the year out and/or the finer details.

jckfan55
January 4th, 2010, 10:01 AM
And gettting D-Day wrong? I thought that was common knowledge. :(
And Canadians *did* take part in the landings--at Juno Beach.

RealmOfX
January 4th, 2010, 11:31 AM
They didn't get D-Day wrong because they didn't say what some of you think they said.

Here's what was said :

Will: Hey... over here.
Helen: What did you find?
Will: It's what I didn't find. Dust. Squeaky clean.
Helen: The '45 Bordeaux. *******. That was a gift from Winston. Churchill. D-day. Long story.

At no point was it said that D-Day was in 1945 as some of you are trying to make out but rather that Helen received a gift of a '45 Bordeaux from Winston Churchill and it had something to do with D-Day and it was a long story.

As there are rare wines from 1945 so I really don't see why some of you are making a fuss.

Skydiver
January 4th, 2010, 11:55 AM
i thnk the thing is, the wine was bottled in 45, d-day was in 44, so it was clearly given at least a year after the fact, possibly two

not to say that it couldn't have happened, or that the gift wasn't tied to d-day, but there had to have been a definite lag between the day and the gift because the wine wasn't even made until a year after the day

wine_buyer
January 4th, 2010, 12:02 PM
Whether a writer likes it or not their words are going to be picked apart by the viewers. In this case that one sentence seems to imply that the gift came on or soon after D-Day.

This conclusion could very well be wrong on the part of the viewers but since the "Wording" was vague IMHO I think they should either be very specific, with ample amount of fact checking, when it comes to history or simply don't put in the script.

As for the "fuss" to me it seemed as though we were simply having a conversation.

Correct Sky, wine is usually bottled a year or more before it's put for sale (even the massed produced stuff is in the bottle for a little while tho' usually many are not dated.) The date on the bottle represents the year it was bottled so Helens '45 would probably have been received in 1947.

RealmOfX
January 4th, 2010, 12:10 PM
i thnk the thing is, the wine was bottled in 45, d-day was in 44, so it was clearly given at least a year after the fact, possibly two

not to say that it couldn't have happened, or that the gift wasn't tied to d-day, but there had to have been a definite lag between the day and the gift because the wine wasn't even made until a year after the day

and?
so?

wurlitzer153
January 4th, 2010, 02:18 PM
Podcast's up!
http://www.syfy.com/sanctuary/includes/podcasts/mp3/210/sanctuary_episode210_commentary.mp3

Skydiver
January 4th, 2010, 04:31 PM
about freaking time :)

suse
January 4th, 2010, 07:25 PM
and?
so?

Therefore? :P

Yes, I just had to add that...

As far as I can tell there's nothing to pick apart. :P Long story as to why Churchill gave her a bottle from the year after the war for her help on around D-Day. No issues. ;)


:D Downloaded podcast. Hope it's good. Also hope my new phone will play it. One day I'll get around to reading the directions. :o

ddc
January 5th, 2010, 06:22 AM
I have a wine question. Helen says the wine from Churchill was a '45 and mentions D-Day. But D-Day was in 1944.


Would a wine produced in '44 be dated as a '45 "release?" Or maybe she got the '45 wine as a thank-you for D-day contributions?

Or I misheard or the writers screwed up.

My interpretation - Churchill gave her a bottle of the 1st post-war vintage to acknowledge whatever contribution she had made towards D-Day succeeding.

Amalthea
January 5th, 2010, 09:54 AM
My interpretation - Churchill gave her a bottle of the 1st post-war vintage to acknowledge whatever contribution she had made towards D-Day succeeding.

It's either this or the fact that Churchill was a little busy for a number of years after the war was over. It probably took him a little while to get some time off and track Helen down to give her a gift.

majorsal
January 5th, 2010, 09:34 PM
i rewatched it tonight. total win and fun! :p

does anyone have caps of when the blond vamp dude was checking out helen? it was when helen and the gang came to rescue tesla, and then where caught themselves. the dark haired guy had her arms behind her back, but the blond one came up and was checking out helen, even touching her hair. i want some caps of that. :p

maylet
January 6th, 2010, 04:53 AM
does anyone have caps of when the blond vamp dude was checking out helen?

LOL

I like this one, it's fun and I can't stop thinking, poor Nikola, for me he will always been a lovely vampire, jaja and I so want to see him now with his new powers

iamdragonrider
January 6th, 2010, 10:47 AM
Hey, how the heck do you hack a walkie talkie anyway?

(That just seemd a little... ummm.. far fetched to me.. or am I the only one?)

I'm going to miss Nikola's vampire side too. But I have a feeling I'm going to like his new magnetic personality. :D but still... the last of the vampires...

sigh...

may I have some cheese to go with my whine?

SamJackShipper93
January 6th, 2010, 12:24 PM
i rewatched it tonight. total win and fun! :p

does anyone have caps of when the blond vamp dude was checking out helen? it was when helen and the gang came to rescue tesla, and then where caught themselves. the dark haired guy had her arms behind her back, but the blond one came up and was checking out helen, even touching her hair. i want some caps of that. :p

Try here first. :)

"Sleepers" Screencaps (http://sanctuary-caps.com/thumbnails.php?album=34)

sweetviviane
January 6th, 2010, 12:41 PM
Yesterday I rewatched the episode while listening the podcast and the explanation for the endingmelody was soooo sad :(:(:( and generous at the same time.

RealmOfX
January 6th, 2010, 12:51 PM
Hey, how the heck do you hack a walkie talkie anyway?

(That just seemd a little... ummm.. far fetched to me.. or am I the only one?)

I'm going to miss Nikola's vampire side too. But I have a feeling I'm going to like his new magnetic personality. :D but still... the last of the vampires...

sigh...

may I have some cheese to go with my whine?

Well technically you don't hack the actual walkie talkie, though if it's using an encrypted carrier signal you can break the encryption.

Skydiver
January 6th, 2010, 01:16 PM
i think less hacking as 'we know the frequency they use and the encryption they use so we listen in'

Alder
January 6th, 2010, 03:11 PM
"Sleepers" Screencaps (http://sanctuary-caps.com/thumbnails.php?album=34)
Ooooooooo, what an excellent site! I've been wondering where I might find Sanctuary screencaps. (Hoping to find some Tesla ones...:))

majorsal
January 6th, 2010, 03:47 PM
Try here first. :)

"Sleepers" Screencaps (http://sanctuary-caps.com/thumbnails.php?album=34)

thank you! :D

http://sanctuary-caps.com/displayimage.php?album=34&pos=1987

^^ just a second before we see helen looking at tesla, she's glancing at this guy playing with her hair. i want to see 'that' scene too. :p

wine_buyer
January 6th, 2010, 03:50 PM
i rewatched it tonight. total win and fun! :p

does anyone have caps of when the blond vamp dude was checking out helen? it was when helen and the gang came to rescue tesla, and then where caught themselves. the dark haired guy had her arms behind her back, but the blond one came up and was checking out helen, even touching her hair. i want some caps of that. :p


thank you! :D

http://sanctuary-caps.com/displayimage.php?album=34&pos=1987

^^ just a second before we see helen looking at tesla, she's glancing at this guy playing with her hair. i want to see 'that' scene too. :p

Sally I'm working on my Sleepers grabs for the thunk thread so when I get to that scene I will try to nap that spot for you. :)

MissCheerfully
January 7th, 2010, 12:16 AM
Does anybody understand the lyrics of the song at the end, during Niko/Helen scene?

maylet
January 7th, 2010, 02:24 AM
Try here first. :)

"Sleepers" Screencaps (http://sanctuary-caps.com/thumbnails.php?album=34)

That site is amazing

Mousie
January 13th, 2010, 04:23 AM
Got to see it eventually and like it very much, although once again I wonder what they did/might do with the devamped kids. They now have a bunch of spoiled rich kids who know about the Sanctuary and vampires and who can't be trusted to keep quiet about what happened.

I can see why they might possibly have devamped Tesla, it may be that there wasn't much else they could do with him as a vampire. Helen can't/won't kill him and he wouldn't have given up trying to bring the vamp race back so there is only so many times they can have Helen manage to stop him in the nick of time.

I agree about the ending, it was lovely, both the scenes between Helen and Tesla and the dedication.

RealmOfX
January 13th, 2010, 05:31 AM
Got to see it eventually and like it very much, although once again I wonder what they did/might do with the devamped kids. They now have a bunch of spoiled rich kids who know about the Sanctuary and vampires and who can't be trusted to keep quiet about what happened.

I can see why they might possibly have devamped Tesla, it may be that there wasn't much else they could do with him as a vampire. Helen can't/won't kill him and he wouldn't have given up trying to bring the vamp race back so there is only so many times they can have Helen manage to stop him in the nick of time.

I agree about the ending, it was lovely, both the scenes between Helen and Tesla and the dedication.

Yeah, I wondered what they'd do about the kids but they actually didn't know about the Sanctuary, nothing was mentioned about the Sanctuary in their presence and the records they hacked were Nikola's from Mexico (again nothing mentioned from the docs about Sanctuary). As for knowing about vampires? Now, who is gonna believe a bunch of spoilt druggie rich kids about that? ;)

Mousie
January 13th, 2010, 05:38 AM
Didn't they take the woman back to the sanctuary though? When she was human again they could have sedated her to take her home without her knowing where she was (and if they kept her in the one room whilst she was there she might not have seen too much)but I doubt she would have remained unconcious for the whole journey there. But anyhoo that's adding far more depth than the episodes require. :)

RealmOfX
January 13th, 2010, 05:47 AM
Didn't they take the woman back to the sanctuary though? When she was human again they could have sedated her to take her home without her knowing where she was (and if they kept her in the one room whilst she was there she might not have seen too much)but I doubt she would have remained unconcious for the whole journey there. But anyhoo that's adding far more depth than the episodes require. :)

They said she was sedated and brought her around to consciousness in the chair.

Mosillivo
January 15th, 2010, 04:33 PM
So let me see... nikcola designs his fail safe with two ends so all someone would need do is grab ahold of him and pull him close.

Makes perfect sense.

AnnieS
February 7th, 2010, 08:50 PM
Finally got ro see this episode. Nikola with no Vamping powers. But being magnetic, that's cool!!!

Rocky89
February 9th, 2010, 01:40 PM
I finally saw the episode, and it was really good. :)

Sanctuary never disappoints me, and I thought this episode was a really good Tesla story. I thought the science behind how they became vampires was really cool, I loved the Comic Con joke and it was cool seeing Helen kick some butt. ;)

Another thing that surprised me was that vampire girl calling Helen a b**** :eek:. I wasn't shocked, just really surprised because I've never heard anyone call a character of Amanda that on any show, and her reaction was cool as well. :P Another thing that I loved seeing was that move by Helen and Kate, when they jumped outside Tesla's window, it was so cool. ;) And Tesla's joke about Helen being tied up made me smile, but I was sorry to see him lose his vampire powers. :(

The last scene with Helen and Tesla was sweet, I liked that despite all he's done, she was trying to help him get his powers back, and that moment with the champagne was nice. :) And I like that he's still got some power in him. :)

I'll review more in replies.

Rocky89
February 11th, 2010, 06:09 PM
I liked this one. it was a lot of fun, lots of snark and sass.

and wow, tesla is no longer a vamp.

dude.

the whole telekinesis/magnetism is cool, but i bet i know a plot of a s3 episode...tracking down any source blood to see if he can revamp his devamper


Same here! I was like 'OMG! NO'! And then his magnetic powers and I was like 'oh yeah!'

That was my reaction too, I couldn't believe it, I felt so bad for him. :( But a big grin came to my face when we saw that he had gained magnetic powers. This was a great episode. :D


Mixed reviews from me:

Loved seeing Nikola again. So sad that he's not a vamp. :( Though I can't wait to discover his new powers.

The teenager storyline was cringeworthy and boring. The language and sexual conotations had me wondering why this was only rated PG. :mckay:

I loved that they dedicated the episode to Azra Young and her cousins. RIP. :(

Three Children Had No Chance of Escaping Shuswap Lake Cabin Fire (http://www.theprovince.com/news/Three+children+chance+escaping+Shuswap+Lake+cabin+fire/1821293/story.html)
Children Killed in Shuswap Cabin Fire Identified (http://www.theprovince.com/news/Children+killed+Shuswap+cabin+fire+identified/1825355/story.html)

I liked the teen storyline, it just goes to show you how teens will do if power goes to their heads. And yeah, it was really touching that the show dedicated the episode to those children. Very sweet.


Saw it for the second time and it had the same effect in me; made me laugh out loud, make me roll my eyes at some of their story lines, keep me entertained and make me some kind of sad that Tesla is “ordinary” again.

“Wide world domination”LOL cerebro any one?:D

“The last of the five” that sentence was powerful; it would be really difficult to think that you are the last one of some group like they were, you can see how Helen is terrified of been the last one alive and everybody she had known die or is dying.

I really like the interaction between Kate and Will, they do a good pair but I rather she partner with Henry.

And Henry and the Big guy are away at the San Diego Comic Con. “That’s one of the places he fits” LOL:ronan:

There were a lot of good lines. "Life's b** and then you don't die" LOL

Helen looked astonish beautiful.:sam:

This season has been a very good one just one episode I didn’t like that much so far 9/10

That's all for now;)

I agree on everything you said, especially the Helen looked astonish part. ;) I also like the CC joke, I thought of them at CC promoting Sanctuary. Oh and I loved Helen and Kate jumping off the ledge.

Helen: "I invented it." loved that line. :D


Definitely one of the best of the episodes we've seen so far. Tesla's vampiric demise brings to mind that the show is going to end at some point.. unfortunately Amanda Tapping isn't immortal, even though her beauty is ;)

Amanda is a timeless beauty. :) I bet she'll still look great at age 70. :D

Why not? Helen looks great at 158. :p


I thought it was another excellent episode.

Jonathan plays Tesla so perfectly it's unreal. As the audience I think you can really relate to Helen's feelings about him; you know he's an arrogant arse that causes a world of trouble but you can't help but like him! :)

The end was pitched perfectly, with the sad shock of him losing his powers and then the reveal. I think they knew the audience wouldn't have been happy if Tesla had been left totally human. It'll be fascinating to see where he goes from here.

There's also an obvious opportunity for him to re-vamp in the future if they wish - it's already been established that he's a genius, so it certainly wouldn't be infeasible that one day he finds something Helen missed.

Definitely hope to see Jonathan back for more episodes next season.

I agree to everything you said, Amanda/Helen is and ALWAYS will be my fave on the show, but I'd have to JY/Tesla is my fave guest star. I'd love to see him become a regular next season. :)


She only said Druitt was gone but the last of the 5 line makes me nervous
Wonder what happens to Druitt?!

I loved this ep. Magnus/Telsa relashionship rocks! Love the bit when he asks where the weapon is :P AT played it so well.
But it made me sad he's no longer a vamp. Happy with what happened at the end. Hope we'll see more of him in S03 :D

Oh and Kate's lines actually worked this time. I liked her in this ep. Except for the whole bit about garlic, cross and stakes. Thats lame.

I was a little bummed that he lost his powers, but I love that he still has some power in him. AT and JY make a good team. :)

Rocky89
February 11th, 2010, 06:53 PM
I don't think events in Sleepers are built from Haunted because Sleepers was originally planed to be episode 4

OMG the shortest hour in my life. This episode did really rock. The ending was quite sad with Helen being the only one of the five. I hope Nikola is still immortal. Can't get enough of him^^

Episode 4? Wow I didn't know that.

This wasn't the BEST episode of the season, but it was great, fun, action, and Tesla got a chance to be a hero for once. :) And Helen looked awesome in white, and kicking butt. ;)


he may still be immortal in the not aging thing, but i think his 'fall off hte roof and bounce up' days are over

I hope so, I hope he's not totally normal, meaning he can age and die. I like to think he still has his immortality.


Definitely enjoyed this episode. great to see Tesla again. I love his interactions with Helen. And they have an interesting relationship--they have a bond but he still drives her nuts. :)
Though I felt kind of bad for Tesla when he lost his vampness, I was kind of glad too. The show could definitely go overboard with vampires. This opens up some new possiblities.
We should definitely see Tesla a few times a season. :)
Looking forward to rewatching this one. (can we hope JY does the commentary on the dvd with AT? please?) :)

:indeed: to everything, now that he has a new power, he can explore it and see how far he can take it. And yeah, I hope AT and JY to the commentary on the DVD together. :)


fun episode! :D

oodles of fun and funny moments, and i just love tesla. the actor (jonathan young?) has totally made this character unique.

LOVED the snark/banter between helen and tesla!! :D :p

it really was just cute all around. :)

but i learned something last night...

when helen finally came on screen, i actually took a gaspy breath... i think i realized how much i love helen now (just her coming on screen brought everything up to a higher level and class). she's a GREAT character, and deserves her own show! :D

wait, she 'does' have her own show. :p

now i'll go read replies and repy myself. :)

I had the same experience the other week when penance aired in Canada, I hadn't seen Helen in ages and I missed her a lot, so seeing her was like a breath of fresh air. :) I love Helen, she's my second fave female TV character next to Sam of course, and I can't think of any other TV character I look more forward to seeing every week. After all, what did you expect? Look who plays her. :sam:

Well, there's Dexter, but he's different. :p

Rocky89
February 11th, 2010, 07:34 PM
someone on twitter spoiled the tesla losing his powers thinger :mad:, so there's another place to stay away from until i see the ep. but anyways, i'm glad helen and company worked so hard to revamp tesla. really, that's insane to try to make him a vampire again :p, but that goes to show how much they care for him (helen especially).

i felt a wee bit of interest for a helen/tesla ship, but that was in the scene where tesla said he'd been waiting for this moment, when he had helen tied up and... got to love that character! :p

I'm also glad Helen wants to get him his powers back, and it makes since he's as old as she is and she knows what it's like to live so long and lose people one cares about. That on top of the fact that he's one of the five.

Oh, and I loved that moment with Helen and Tesla too, I'm not surprised he dreams/has fantasies about Helen. He reminds of Mckay like that. :D


amanda and jonathan play well off each other. :)

:indeed:




oh, i :lol: when vamp chick called helen a b**ch. :p


"You can Bite me... Biatch"

ahah loved that part.. Helen's experssion was great the whole "I - Will - End- you" look :D

OMG I was really... not shocked, but just really surprised to hear that because I've never heard anyone call a character of Amanda's that before. I like how Helen started off all tough with her.

Helen: "I'll be asking the questions here." And I loved the look on Helens face when the vamp girl called her that. :D

http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/ae118/Rocky89_05/vlcsnap-159644.png



so, season 3, helen continues to help tesla find his vampness. he thinks he's found it, and by testing it, bites helen... she's either part vampire, or she's drawn to him and... i want to see this happen on the show! :p

^^ that was speculation, no actual spoilers


i 'think', b/c helen actually likes tesla. and, i think she might have felt some empathy with him, maybe wondering what it would be like to lose her 'power'... maybe she realized she'd not be happy with it either?

but this is just guessing. :p

Good ideas, Sal. ;)


I was thinking about how Amanda has been able to distance the Helen character from the Sam Carter character over at SG-1 and she has done it wonderfully.

I’m like you when I see Helen come on, she is really good and I have to admire her talent to give this fictional "person" that difference and life and she just looks beautiful.

Sam has her own beauty too, I love them both... they are played by the same wonderful actress LOL:sam:

Agreed on everything, Amanda does it so well that at times you believe that the only connection they have is that they're played by the same awesome actress. ;)


Love the scene with Helen and Tesla; the looks they give each other and the feelings they display are very touchy you can tell Helen really likes Tesla even if he has been a pain in her **s for more than a decade she likes him and also the thought of losing someone else so soon really hits her.

also the reference to the vine Churchill gave her and the looked Kate gives Will at that comment and Will goes long story.

Wonder if they are going to take in that fact on Helen’s life the D Day that be really good…I think.

I can make jokes about the bolded part, but I won't. :p And yeah, the Churchill reference was also cool. ;)


I think Jonathan Young may (at least) get nominated for an award for best supporting actor for this role as Tesla.

:indeed:

Rocky89
February 11th, 2010, 07:36 PM
someone on twitter spoiled the tesla losing his powers thinger :mad:, so there's another place to stay away from until i see the ep. but anyways, i'm glad helen and company worked so hard to revamp tesla. really, that's insane to try to make him a vampire again :p, but that goes to show how much they care for him (helen especially).

i felt a wee bit of interest for a helen/tesla ship, but that was in the scene where tesla said he'd been waiting for this moment, when he had helen tied up and... got to love that character! :p

I'm also glad Helen wants to get him his powers back, and it makes since he's as old as she is and she knows what it's like to live so long and lose people one cares about. That on top of the fact that he's one of the five.

Oh, and I loved that moment with Helen and Tesla too, I'm not surprised he dreams/has fantasies about Helen. He reminds of Mckay like that. :D


amanda and jonathan play well off each other. :)

:indeed:




oh, i :lol: when vamp chick called helen a b**ch. :p


"You can Bite me... Biatch"

ahah loved that part.. Helen's experssion was great the whole "I - Will - End- you" look :D

OMG I was really... not shocked, but just really surprised to hear that because I've never heard anyone call a character of Amanda's that before. I like how Helen started off all tough with her.

Helen: "I'll be asking the questions here." And I loved the look on Helen's face when the vamp girl called her that. :D

http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/ae118/Rocky89_05/vlcsnap-159644.png



so, season 3, helen continues to help tesla find his vampness. he thinks he's found it, and by testing it, bites helen... she's either part vampire, or she's drawn to him and... i want to see this happen on the show! :p

^^ that was speculation, no actual spoilers


i 'think', b/c helen actually likes tesla. and, i think she might have felt some empathy with him, maybe wondering what it would be like to lose her 'power'... maybe she realized she'd not be happy with it either?

but this is just guessing. :p

Good ideas, Sal. ;)


I was thinking about how Amanda has been able to distance the Helen character from the Sam Carter character over at SG-1 and she has done it wonderfully.

I’m like you when I see Helen come on, she is really good and I have to admire her talent to give this fictional "person" that difference and life and she just looks beautiful.

Sam has her own beauty too, I love them both... they are played by the same wonderful actress LOL:sam:

Agreed on everything, Amanda does it so well that at times you believe that the only connection they have is that they're played by the same awesome actress. ;)


Love the scene with Helen and Tesla; the looks they give each other and the feelings they display are very touchy you can tell Helen really likes Tesla even if he has been a pain in her **s for more than a decade she likes him and also the thought of losing someone else so soon really hits her.

also the reference to the vine Churchill gave her and the looked Kate gives Will at that comment and Will goes long story.

Wonder if they are going to take in that fact on Helen’s life the D Day that be really good…I think.

I can make jokes about the bolded part, but I won't. :p And yeah, the Churchill reference was also cool. ;)


I think Jonathan Young may (at least) get nominated for an award for best supporting actor for this role as Tesla.

:indeed:

Rocky89
February 12th, 2010, 06:23 PM
I've now watched this ep twice as I needed time to think things over before giving my thoughts on it.

Not really my fav ep, but that might be because of the whole vampire theme. Anymore, IMO, vampires are so obsolete. When Buffy came on the scene, it was fresh and excitingly new, but I've grown tired with the hype surrounding vamps for now what with Twilight and everything else. Personally, I'm more than glad TPTB decided to drop this power in Tesla and decided to pick up something a bit more unique and fresh. I'm definitely looking forward to Tesla exploring more of his 'Magneto' side and can't help ponder some of the exciting plots involving him using this.

I don't think any kind of "abnormal" or "monster" can become obsolete, I mean TV networks and what not keep finding ways to spice it up. Even if it's been used a lot, as long as it's done right, I think fans will support them. :)


Can't agree with you more as I also wondered about this. You'd think he would take into consideration all the possible outcomes in making this de-vamper. Hate to say it, but Tesla deserved everything he got for his inflated ego.

One that note, I did love Kate's response to Tesla name for his creation:
"I call it...the Devamper!'
"Your a genius and that is the best name you can come up with?"

This part did make me laugh outright. Her disdain was so dripping. :P

I've never seen Tesla as a jerk, or someone with a big ego, and I did feel bad for him when he lost his powers. And yeah, I love all of Helen's expressions. :P


I do hope Henry and BF make an appearance soon in the shows to come, though images of them surfing and going to the San Diego CC as fanboys does make me smirk. I love how TPTB have a sense of humor rather than say they were away on business which is just dull. They do love to titillate our imaginations. ;)

I'm glad they have a sense of humor too, so far it's been either them at a beach, or at CC, not that they're trying to capture some abnormal


Helen as usual took my breath away with her beauty and she was so spot on with her lines and reactions. I do know my gf was poking me quite a bit with my intense interest when we watched it together. Of course, she can't help but agree with me on the subject..heh.

Cel, you know better than to check out Helen when your special someone is around. :p


I'm not sure if Helen is accepting as much as....these guys are the only ones that REALLY know what it's like. they're the only ones that know what it's like to keep outliving everyone, to see history repeating itself over and over

it's also possible that, 'a hundred years ago' when helen founded the sanctuaries, tesla, watson, griffin all helped her. they helped her achieve her dreams so she owes them her dreams, and the lives of every abby she's helped.

there's a bond and 'blood debt' that will always exist

it would be like, to drag sg1 into it, sam and her team will always be there for each other, always.

I agree, things change in a 158 years, John, Tesla and the rest were bonded together by the source blood, and they've lived through the best and worst of history, and that's a bond like no other. Maybe Helen sees something in Tesla that reminds her of her, and she doesn't want to lose that/him.


I love this eps Tesla is so cool :)

My favorite parts were when Helen,Will and Kate were tied up and Tesla is flirtting with Helen she so wants him and when there fighting the jr vamps very cool and the end scene between Helen and Nickola i love how he say's loosing his vamp side wont stop him taking over the world lol

Tesla with Magnetic abilities very cool

I loved that scene too, when Tesla put his hand in Helens jacket, I thought for sure be was going to due something. :p


I think this episode is just making me fall more in love with Santuary while pointing out all the reasons why I'm so overwhelmingly still disappointed with SGU. The camaradarie, the snark, the constant plot twists and turns that make you realize that you have no idea what is going to happen next. The characters are all strong characters, and the writers are not afraid to hit you upside the head with some new twist that came far out of left field. It's fast, fun, and it makes me forgive the sometimes funny looking aliens or definitely computer generated backgrounds when something hiccups. A good show to end the season on.

Every episode makes me fall in love with the show over again, every episode is something new and fresh. This show doesn't disappoint, and I believe this should continue to grow and show the world what it's made of. :)



Sanctuary is very much - here's the people having adventures and stories and oh by the way, here's our sets and monsters

with other shows it's - look at our great sets and wonderful effects, aint they cool...oh, an by the way, we got people too

I don't mind if things look a bit 'cheesy' at times. Like they've said in hte pod casts, they're not aiming for photo real, it's more a graphic novel so it's ok to be a bit 'cartoony'


Well said. The Sanctuary team recognizes that as cool as the effects might be, the audience keeps tuning in for the characters and their stories.
Heck, most of the time I forget a lot of it is CG. I think that's a tribute to the actors and the stories.


I think most of the time when I notice a CG hiccup it's just that. The characters or scenery is moving so quickly or changing that the angle looks off, and for a few seconds, you can clearly see that the background is a screen. Other times, it is totally worth it, and you get these amazing backdrops you'd never get anywhere else.

And a lot of the monsters, some of them are just kinda silly looking.

But I don't mind it. Because the characters work. They work with one another, they unite against a common enemey. They recruit those with a shady background, and welcome them into their fold. They mourn their friends (though I wish they hadn't killed Will's invisible woman friend, she was too cool). Magnus is such a different character from Sam Carter, that even though with eleven years of Carter behind Tapping, Magnus is different enough that aside from a few occaisional facial expressions, she's different enough that I can forget Carter and see Magnus. Magnus is stronger, more confident, in charge, uses every tool at her disposal including her femitiy. She's a bit of a self proclaimed vigilante, and sometimes her friends and coworkers even question her motives and how far she'll go. But they'll all rally around her if she can make them believe in her plan no matter how far out there. There's this unwavering loyalty she seems able to foster, even in those she has barely met.

Anyway, SGU may have more impressive special effects, sets, props, costumes, and backgrounds sometimes. But it's too much like BSG IMO, and after a season or two of that episode, I got tired of the sniping. There's no trust, no chemistry. They are stranded light years from home, and no one trusts one another. Everyone has some hidden agenda, no one makes any sacrifices for the greater good. They are too busy backstabbing and seeking their own pleasures and ensuring their own personal survival rather than the safety and survival of the whole. It emphasizes all the deeper, darker, more depressing sides of humanity, and when there is humor, it's usually the lame, boring make fun of the geek sort, rather than the light, banter, snarking between friends sort.


Sanctuary, everyone is working towards a goal. SGU, like you said, it's everyman/woman for themselves

makes a huge difference.

however, if we want to continue this topic, we should probably take it to another thread. :)

I couldn't agree more with all of you. I've seen and read about shows like that, where there's trouble on set, and one actor fights with another and so on. I'm glad it's a stable, healthy and friendly working atmosphere with the Sanctuary cast. And they've made sacrifices, cutting their pay and giving it to the show, and so on. These people do what they do not for money, fame and all that other stuff, which is the goal for a lot of celebs, they do it for the fans and to bring something cool to TV. :)

I don't watch the show to check out the effects, I used to watch it 99% for Amanda, but now I watch it for the people, and to see who they are and what their stories are. This is a good cast, and it has something a lot of shows lack, SG-1 had that and... it's... it's something so special it doesn't even have a name. :) Maybe it's like Amanda's always said, perhaps it's because no one has a big ego an they kept their heads below the clouds. :)



i rewatched it tonight. total win and fun! :p

does anyone have caps of when the blond vamp dude was checking out helen? it was when helen and the gang came to rescue tesla, and then where caught themselves. the dark haired guy had her arms behind her back, but the blond one came up and was checking out helen, even touching her hair. i want some caps of that. :p


thank you! :D

http://sanctuary-caps.com/displayimage.php?album=34&pos=1987

^^ just a second before we see helen looking at tesla, she's glancing at this guy playing with her hair. i want to see 'that' scene too. :p

That kid may have been a jerk and arrogant, but at least he knows VERY beautiful woman when he sees one. ;)

Angela V
February 17th, 2010, 09:19 PM
I liked how the young vamps were treated. They were like we are so COOL and then they killed their friend instead of turning him! That was downright funny.

I loved the look on Tesla's face when he go this new powers. Seemed be like a little boy getting a birthday present.

kivawolfspeaker
February 19th, 2010, 05:35 PM
I loved the look on Tesla's face when he go this new powers. Seemed be like a little boy getting a birthday present.

Or a kid in a candy store :D

lastrequest
March 2nd, 2010, 04:40 PM
I have to say this was one of my favourite episodes of the series - partly because Nikola was in it I think he just brings something so brilliant to the show. I love his wit and his snarkiness - and he and Helen just seem to have a real chemistry there that I think you would have if you'd known each other for over a century - just that fact that they know how each other thinks I thought was a nice touch.

Really disappointed he got ''de-vamped'' :( but I have high hopes that we will see more of him in Season 3 - especially since we were shown him discovering his magnetism :D

MelissaAdams
August 16th, 2010, 06:33 AM
I was doing a rewatch in anticipatijon of season 3 starting, can't wait for that!!!! Anyways I just happened to think of a question and though I know why it didn't actually happen because SyFy and the powers that be wanted Ashley gone why, theoretically of course, would Nikola's devamper not have worked on Ashley?

Nikola was altered using the source blood and she was basically 'him' at least her abilities. In my mind it would have at least worked partially, perhaps dulling her abilities and never even in fan fiction has this been addressed. I just wondered why no one thought to ask before?

Then again I've watched this episode multiple times and it just hit me today...LOL, oh how I miss my brain. Any guesses anyone?

Melissa

LadyGalaxyJ
August 16th, 2010, 07:10 AM
I was doing a rewatch in anticipatijon of season 3 starting, can't wait for that!!!! Anyways I just happened to think of a question and though I know why it didn't actually happen because SyFy and the powers that be wanted Ashley gone why, theoretically of course, would Nikola's devamper not have worked on Ashley?

Nikola was altered using the source blood and she was basically 'him' at least her abilities. In my mind it would have at least worked partially, perhaps dulling her abilities and never even in fan fiction has this been addressed. I just wondered why no one thought to ask before?

Then again I've watched this episode multiple times and it just hit me today...LOL, oh how I miss my brain. Any guesses anyone?

Melissa
Interesting. I think... it would have worked, at least a little, but I don't think the de-vamper was invented at the time though. IMO, Tesla did it afterwards, along with the Mexico facility and everything.

As to why I didn't think about it before you mentionned it, I'd have to say that since Sleepers happens a while after EoN, I never thought about Ashley precisely while watching the ep. Maybe it's the same thing for other people?

But it's an interesting thought as I've said before. If they were to somehow find Ashley (which I think is very unlikely) this could be a solution to the "super-Ashley" problem.

MelissaAdams
August 16th, 2010, 07:41 AM
True point and I'm not saying it's 'likely' to happen in real life but it's just ironic to me that no one ever, EVEN in a fan fiction story that no one thought of this. *Grins(

Lots of folks write 'Ashley didn't die' fiction and have come up with some rather impressive solutions on how to deal with things but no one ever, EVER thought of this that I recall ever reading. It's just funny to me and then it hit me this morning while watching it like...DUH why didn't you think of it last year you dumb Melissa you?? LOL

LadyGalaxyJ
August 16th, 2010, 08:04 AM
Well, I guess we find out new things everytime we rewatch an ep. This just happens to be a bigger one than usual. ;PP

Dinoman
August 22nd, 2010, 05:39 AM
I cannot remember how many times I rewatched this episode and still enjoy it so much! Tesla was cute, lovable and although he was de-vamped I think he would make good use of his new powers to revive the vampires race.

Dr Lee
August 22nd, 2010, 05:47 AM
it's the last scene for me.... JY's acting coupled with the music.... AWESOME.

Cannot help but grin when the platter slides towards his hand...

CorinaEder
September 18th, 2010, 01:09 PM
I totally agree!!!

it's the last scene for me.... JY's acting coupled with the music.... AWESOME.

Although I don't like the "teenage-vampires" Sleepers is my favourite Sanctuary episode so far. It never gets boring.

SnowWhite
September 30th, 2010, 01:51 PM
I totally agree!!!


Although I don't like the "teenage-vampires" Sleepers is my favourite Sanctuary episode so far. It never gets boring.

Oh yes, it definitely is.. not at last because it's so much Nikola (& Teslen) :D
His quotes are some of the coolest and Vampires are great.. Magneto, too XD

sparklegem
November 20th, 2010, 11:44 PM
I have to say that I love Nikola as much as the next person, but I can't believe the absence of strong condemnation of his unethical human experimentation, both on the boards and among the characters in the episode. One's right to informed consent and self-determination of what happens to one's body is a core ethical principle in medicine, and is why human medical experimentation is so heavily controlled.

Nikola's actions--messing with the teens' genetic codes without their knowledge--IMO are really scary and along the same lines of what the Cabal do.

The thing is, he's one of my favorite characters outside of this episode, and on top of that the other characters, Magnus included, don't seem horrified by his actions, nor does the episode portray his actions is a horrific light, which then makes it seem less disturbing even though I know I should be disturbed.

Therefore, I just pretend that this episode doesn't exist so I can love Nikola in the other episodes and see him in a similar light as Magnus does. If I didn't, I would have to despise him and conclude that Magnus has no ethical principles for continuing to associate with him.

dipsofjazz
September 7th, 2011, 11:25 AM
I watched this episode again today, and I adore the final scene between Helen and Nikola. Amanda looks stunning, the dialogue is great, and the music is fabulous. I can watch that scene over and over. :D

selene0789
September 22nd, 2011, 03:30 PM
This episode had me cracking up almost the whole way through.

Some of my fave moments:
--"Okay, great, so they're fan-boys. Working with fan-boys..." [great shout out to fans and conventioners. I can now count myself as a conventioner, so it's even more sweet :).]

--When Magnus and Will see Nikola in Mexico, and they both roll their eyes like "Oh, for crying out loud" [it was just so in sync that it double as a good Will and Magnus moment as well as an awesome entrance for Tesla]

--"Is that what you call Dead Steve?" [complete deadpan. Awesome! Also, the True Blood reference was hilarious.]

--"You've turned what was supposed to be a symphony into Rock and Roll! French-Canadian rock and roll!" [I've never heard French-Canadian rock and roll, but now I'm tempted. Is it really as bad as is implied here? :)]

--"I've often wondered what this moment would be like. Me... you tied up. It's a shame you brought the children." [the intensity was subtle, but totally there. And the suggestiveness was both playful and serious. A careful balance that Jonathon Young nailed perfectly!]

One of my faves! Though, I must say, I much prefer Tesla as a vampire.