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Joachim
November 25th, 2009, 07:43 PM
I'm thinking Camille forgetting the row boat was obviously a metaphor.

Subconciously, I think she's realized she's probably never really getting off that ship.

Cold Fuzz
November 25th, 2009, 10:39 PM
I'm thinking Camille forgetting the row boat was obviously a metaphor.

Subconciously, I think she's realized she's probably never really getting off that ship.

Yeah, I think Camille has reached the point where the reality of her situation is finally hitting her. Though she can still see Sharon, she'll never really be with her. The stones, in my opinion, are almost torturous in this manner. She'll be so close to Sharon, close enough to touch her but the reality is that they're apart. This "so close but so far away" dichotomy with the stones has already caused so much pain with Scott and Camille. In a way, it might be emotionally just easier for them to cut off communications with Earth and just focus on the tasks before them to get back to Earth.

DigiFluid
November 25th, 2009, 10:40 PM
I'm thinking Camille forgetting the row boat was obviously a metaphor.

Subconciously, I think she's realized she's probably never really getting off that ship.
Of course, though I didn't really take the missing boat as a metaphor for not coming home--good catch.

When I saw it over the mantle in their home, I realized--hey, this is their retirement dream plan together and the things she cares about are slipping away.

Alan Wake
November 25th, 2009, 10:41 PM
I'm thinking Camille forgetting the row boat was obviously a metaphor.

Subconciously, I think she's realized she's probably never really getting off that ship.

really? I thought she just drew a blank when drawing it... and well... forgot it.

KEK
November 25th, 2009, 10:45 PM
really? I thought she just drew a blank when drawing it... and well... forgot it.

What would be the point of writing that into the script?

Alan Wake
November 25th, 2009, 10:47 PM
What would be the point of writing that into the script?

Well... maybe later down the line we'll all find out she had some brain trouble... that will lead her to forgot things.

Ouroboros
November 25th, 2009, 11:13 PM
I think the idea is she's only been away from home for a fairly short time and she's already starting to forget things. I think that's why it bothered her so much. Sure now she's just forgotten the rowboat but what might follow in the potentially years to come, her friends, her home, Sharon's face?

Cold Fuzz
November 25th, 2009, 11:58 PM
I think the idea is she's only been away from home for a fairly short time and she's already starting to forget things. I think that's why it bothered her so much. Sure now she's just forgotten the rowboat but what might follow in the potentially years to come, her friends, her home, Sharon's face?

Very astute observation. To her, the memory slippery slope you've described would be almost as frightening to her as dying on a ship full of virtual strangers living at each other's throats. The reality of this and losing Sharon (perhaps forever) is absolutely devastating to her. Honestly, I believe it would be devastating to anyone.

Joachim
November 26th, 2009, 07:46 AM
Well... maybe later down the line we'll all find out she had some brain trouble...
She's not daniel faraday. /:


I think the idea is she's only been away from home for a fairly short time and she's already starting to forget things. I think that's why it bothered her so much. Sure now she's just forgotten the rowboat but what might follow in the potentially years to come, her friends, her home, Sharon's face?
I like that as well.

Perhaps it's a little both. Subconciously she realizes she's not coming home any time soon, and that scares her - not only that, but the "distance" seems to be growing.

wargrafix
November 26th, 2009, 09:27 AM
she probably just forgot to draw the boat.

Lord Hurin
November 26th, 2009, 06:19 PM
she probably just forgot to draw the boat.

Then why would they write it into the script at all?

I agree with what the OP said: Forgetting to draw the only way off of "their" island made her think of the ship and there not being any way off of it.

nx01a
November 26th, 2009, 08:52 PM
There's the obvious 'she missed the boat' comment, but I won't. :)
Like how you start to forget things about the people you care about most when they're gone [the sound of their voices, their faces], she was forgetting some of the details about her old life.
I'd laugh if she sketched the ugly chair next. :D Any detail's better than none.

Wayston
November 27th, 2009, 11:51 AM
I'm thinking Camille forgetting the row boat was obviously a metaphor.

Subconciously, I think she's realized she's probably never really getting off that ship.

very astute observation!! nice!!

Jper
November 28th, 2009, 12:44 PM
Maybe in another reality where Camille on the ship came from there was never a row boat in the picture, but somehow she got transfered to a reality where there was indeed the slight difference of there being a row boat in the picture. Thus, Camille wouldn't have put it in her drawing. So this is maybe also why Scott suddenly has a son in this reality, but not in the previous reality. :) So, who likes my crazy theory? :D

Eternal Density
November 29th, 2009, 01:46 AM
Maybe in another reality where Camille on the ship came from there was never a row boat in the picture, but somehow she got transfered to a reality where there was indeed the slight difference of there being a row boat in the picture. Thus, Camille wouldn't have put it in her drawing. So this is maybe also why Scott suddenly has a son in this reality, but not in the previous reality. :) So, who likes my crazy theory? :DIt's a few fish short of a pond to me.

Jper
November 29th, 2009, 02:01 AM
It's a few fish short of a pond to me.

Which means?
(Sorry, but I'm not a native English speaker and these idioms can get me confused sometimes. I'm learning though.)

KEK
November 29th, 2009, 04:26 AM
It's a reference to Moebius.

EvilSpaceAlien
November 29th, 2009, 05:48 AM
Maybe in another reality where Camille on the ship came from there was never a row boat in the picture, but somehow she got transfered to a reality where there was indeed the slight difference of there being a row boat in the picture. Thus, Camille wouldn't have put it in her drawing. So this is maybe also why Scott suddenly has a son in this reality, but not in the previous reality. :) So, who likes my crazy theory? :D

It's insane, wacky, and over-the-top. I must claim it as my own. :teylaanime08:

nx01a
November 29th, 2009, 07:20 AM
Which means?
(Sorry, but I'm not a native English speaker and these idioms can get me confused sometimes. I'm learning though.)Really? Wow. You're good! he says in that patronizing tone.:D'A few ___ short of a ___' is a modifiable metaphor meaning 'crazy'/'not all there mentally'.

Phenom
November 30th, 2009, 02:35 PM
I think the idea is she's only been away from home for a fairly short time and she's already starting to forget things. I think that's why it bothered her so much. Sure now she's just forgotten the rowboat but what might follow in the potentially years to come, her friends, her home, Sharon's face?

I thought the exact same thing. I actually thought it was fairly obvious and am a little surprised there is some debate over it.

Jper
November 30th, 2009, 04:06 PM
I thought the exact same thing. I actually thought it was fairly obvious and am a little surprised there is some debate over it.

Well I hope it gets re-used somewhere, and it will be one of those little clues TPTB have been leaving us. Which will later get some more meaning if we see all the little pieces becoming one big puzzle?

It's that or my OTT theory. :D

Pharaoh Atem
November 30th, 2009, 10:55 PM
for anyone who watched buffy the vampire slayer this scene really mirrored the scene when willow realized that she had let go of tara and had moved on

Nth
November 30th, 2009, 11:39 PM
Where did she get the paints and brushes for her picture? Do the Ancients also make the best water colors of all time or was there an arts and crafts crate they brought with them from the base? Must have been the same crate with the exercise outfits, bedding, and LRC. The big one marked 'plot toys.'

KEK
November 30th, 2009, 11:48 PM
Where did she get the paints and brushes for her picture? Do the Ancients also make the best water colors of all time or was there an arts and crafts crate they brought with them from the base? Must have been the same crate with the exercise outfits, bedding, and LRC. The big one marked 'plot toys.'

What paints and brushes? She was using a pen/pencil.

Nth
November 30th, 2009, 11:58 PM
I thought there was color in it and she was using a brush. Oh well, shows how much I've been paying attention.

Deevil
December 1st, 2009, 12:09 AM
I think the idea is she's only been away from home for a fairly short time and she's already starting to forget things. I think that's why it bothered her so much. Sure now she's just forgotten the rowboat but what might follow in the potentially years to come, her friends, her home, Sharon's face?

That's what made that moment so beautiful, and so real. It was like she, for the first time really understood what it meant to be trapped so far from home...

Phenom
December 1st, 2009, 03:12 PM
I almost think it would be worse to go home and spend an afternoon with your wife, husband, army of cats.

I wonder if the 'missing them like crazy Vs depression of having to return' ratio would actually work in their favour???

KEK
December 2nd, 2009, 01:00 AM
I almost think it would be worse to go home and spend an afternoon with your wife, husband, army of cats.

I wonder if the 'missing them like crazy Vs depression of having to return' ratio would actually work in their favour???

I think there are definitely two types of attitude toward this forming. Camile and Young want nothing more than to get home to their families, whereas Rush couldn't care less about going home and even Chloe seems to be becoming more and more detached as the series develops. Scott seems torn, and I think so is Eli, though if his mother dies in the future I can see him drifting to the Destiny camp too.