I know they weren't "the right people" and got on the ship by accident, but why are they cracking so soon? In Atlantis, they were completely cut off from Earth for almost a year, with no method of communicating back. They constantly lived under threat of attack from the Wraith. In contrast, the people on the Destiny can experience Earth pretty much on demand, only have to worry about how much water and food they have, which the Destiny will take care of when it senses supplies are low. Not even the civilians on Atlantis were cracking this early. It seems to me like Young is a stronger, more heavy-handed leader, even with Rush defying him, than Dr Weir was during her first year on Atlantis, and still the people on the Destiny are beginning to crack. I guess it's just all this drama of "not the right people" that I can't understand. How could they gather so many incompetent people on a project that was as important, if not more so, than the Atlantis expedition?
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It makes a difference when you can mentally prepare for going on a mission you might not make it back anytime soon. The Atlantis team knew that they might not make it home. These people on Universe left under a very stressful situation and thought they were going home, and now they are realizing that it won't be an easy thing to get home. Make a huge difference if it your choice vs. someone else making the choice for you.
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The fact that the Destinites had no idea they were going to be cut off from home compared to Atlantis' planned expedition is a major difference.
To me, at least, the LRC stones are more a torture than anything else - so they can go home for some time in somebody else's body, and then have to go back to the bloody ship that no one can control or get them home for real? With limited supplies and the ship falling apart? That's kinda a different animal than the Atlantis team, at least.~ When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take back the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons! What am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons! Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! WITH THE LEMONS! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that BURNS YOUR HOUSE DOWN! ~
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Originally posted by rsanchez View PostI know they weren't "the right people" and got on the ship by accident, but why are they cracking so soon? In Atlantis, they were completely cut off from Earth for almost a year, with no method of communicating back. They constantly lived under threat of attack from the Wraith. In contrast, the people on the Destiny can experience Earth pretty much on demand, only have to worry about how much water and food they have, which the Destiny will take care of when it senses supplies are low. Not even the civilians on Atlantis were cracking this early. It seems to me like Young is a stronger, more heavy-handed leader, even with Rush defying him, than Dr Weir was during her first year on Atlantis, and still the people on the Destiny are beginning to crack. I guess it's just all this drama of "not the right people" that I can't understand. How could they gather so many incompetent people on a project that was as important, if not more so, than the Atlantis expedition?
I think under these conditions, many people would be having a rough time, especially since they didn't plan on this ever happening to them. Remember in Atlantis that everyone was given a choice to go or not to go, and they knew ahead of time it might be a one way trip.
Plus, in Atlantis they did mention that people were having a hard time with it. It just got alot less attention cause the show was about other things. They had a whole city they could try and explore where these people are couped up on a ship that right now, many sections they don't have access to. There also aren't THAT many people there. Its like being in a school where there are only 80 other people. If you make one mistake, say one wrong thing, or if someone doesn't like you it can affect how the entire group sees you leading to some rather lonely times with no choice but to wait till its over.
All of that considered, I think it is very different then Atlantis.
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Atlantis was an expedition of people going on a mission that they knew in advance might be a one-way trip--though, it was well within the realm of possibility that they might one day be able to return. And they had along at least one qualified therapist.
The people on Destiny were running into the gate expecting to emerge in the SGC and be home with their families in a day or two. Instead they're effectively marooned, having been deceived about where they were going, and appear to have no hope of ever going home. And no qualified therapist."A society grows great when old men plant trees, the shade of which they know they will never sit in. Good people do things for other people. That's it, the end." -- Penelope Wilton in Ricky Gervais's After Life
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Ok the Atlantis Expedition did know what they were getting into, but everyone stepping through the gate knows the kind of risk they are taking. You would expect at least that they would only let people of firm mental faculties to step through the gate.
Also, I would argue that the Atlantis team had it even tougher psychologically since there was always the threat of the Wraith descending on Atlantis. They knew the day would come, but the uncertainty of when the attack would come and if they would even be capable of surviving it, at least to me, seems more of a psychological drain than not knowing if they can make it home. If the Destiny can still descend past the corona of a star and come out in one piece, it will not fall apart any time soon. They don't have to worry about their lives ending due to circumstances beyond their immediate control. I guess Atlantis just had people who were more willing to focus on their day-to-day jobs than worrying about getting home.
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Originally posted by rsanchez View PostOk the Atlantis Expedition did know what they were getting into, but everyone stepping through the gate knows the kind of risk they are taking. You would expect at least that they would only let people of firm mental faculties to step through the gate.
Originally posted by rsanchez View PostThey don't have to worry about their lives ending due to circumstances beyond their immediate control. I guess Atlantis just had people who were more willing to focus on their day-to-day jobs than worrying about getting home.
At least on Atlantis, they had the luxury of an Alpha site. Not to mention they weren't exactly alone there. They could interact with other humans, other society.
Everyone on the Destiny is essentially alone, in a galaxy where none of their kind exists. That's really really depressing.These are the wrong people... in the wrong place.
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Originally posted by Pharaoh Atem View Postcam snapped being in the oddsesy for 50 years
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Originally posted by rsanchez View PostI know they weren't "the right people" and got on the ship by accident, but why are they cracking so soon? In Atlantis, they were completely cut off from Earth for almost a year, with no method of communicating back. They constantly lived under threat of attack from the Wraith. In contrast, the people on the Destiny can experience Earth pretty much on demand, only have to worry about how much water and food they have, which the Destiny will take care of when it senses supplies are low. Not even the civilians on Atlantis were cracking this early. It seems to me like Young is a stronger, more heavy-handed leader, even with Rush defying him, than Dr Weir was during her first year on Atlantis, and still the people on the Destiny are beginning to crack. I guess it's just all this drama of "not the right people" that I can't understand. How could they gather so many incompetent people on a project that was as important, if not more so, than the Atlantis expedition?
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You can't compare this with Atlantis, as that was cheesey popcorn action show, and this is a character driven show. One has characters than are entertaining, but unrealistic. What you saw on Atlantis, that was fantasy. What you see on Destiny is reality.These are two completely different styles of telling a story, so comparing to cheese factor does not work. Ditto with all these annoying "Why don't they get Rodney?" threads.
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Originally posted by rsanchez View PostI know they weren't "the right people" and got on the ship by accident, but why are they cracking so soon? In Atlantis, they were completely cut off from Earth for almost a year, with no method of communicating back. They constantly lived under threat of attack from the Wraith.
That was pretty unrealistic, now that I think about it.
Glad they had that little scene in The Gift with Heightmeyer though. It wasn't much, but it did give the sense that not everyone was holding up that well under the pressure.
How could they gather so many incompetent people on a project that was as important, if not more so, than the Atlantis expedition?
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