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segaxgames
November 7th, 2009, 08:39 AM
I was wondering?

Spimman
November 7th, 2009, 08:47 AM
Not sure.

I'm wondering why they don't use the stones to have someone trade bodies with a Doctor to come and check him out and/or give Johansen some more medical training. Way to practical of a way to use the stones!

Rosehawk
November 7th, 2009, 08:51 AM
I don't think they said. TJ said it would be touch and go. Alot of time has not really passed for them from when he got hurt to the end of the show so maybe we will know more with the next episode.

More medical training may or may not help as they don't necessarily have the equipment or drugs to help keep him stable.

Lightning Ducj
November 7th, 2009, 09:10 AM
Fairly certain from the dialog that the 'guy in the spacesuit' was Riley


Haig Sutherland(Riley) os only in imdb for 7 episodes..)

ttsec
November 7th, 2009, 09:32 AM
I don't think they said. TJ said it would be touch and go. Alot of time has not really passed for them from when he got hurt to the end of the show so maybe we will know more with the next episode.

More medical training may or may not help as they don't necessarily have the equipment or drugs to help keep him stable.

Then they can swap a Bio. Engineer on board (someone as masterful as McKay, but in field of Bio. Engineer.), and rig some equipment up from scratch (McKay style).

leiasky
November 7th, 2009, 09:34 AM
I hope so. I wasn't a fan of the character. I like that people keep dying.

Lightning Ducj
November 7th, 2009, 09:37 AM
I hope so. I wasn't a fan of the character.


I thought he was a fun character to have around


I like that people keep dying.

"We're going to need another Timmy!"

Replicator Todd
November 7th, 2009, 09:43 AM
Riley's fate is unknown.

FallenAngelII
November 7th, 2009, 09:44 AM
I hope so. I wasn't a fan of the character. I like that people keep dying.
But we never got to see/hear it. And I doubt we ever will. He'll just not be there and casual viewers won't notice. Or they'll think that he's just not being featured anymore since it's a large ensemble show.

Detox
November 7th, 2009, 10:27 AM
Riley survives. He's listed on IMDB for Incursion, Joe also mentioned that he wrapped productions during the last day of shooting.

Lightning Ducj
November 7th, 2009, 10:36 AM
Riley survives. He's listed on IMDB for Incursion, Joe also mentioned that he wrapped productions during the last day of shooting.



He's only listed for 7 episodes, and Earth makes the 7th, but Earth is not included in the list, where Incursion Pt 2 is..

...interesting....

was he actually shown in the space suit? I think so...that was his bloody face

jelgate
November 7th, 2009, 10:37 AM
He is in the infirmary dreaming about spying on James with another KINO

Pharaoh Atem
November 7th, 2009, 10:47 AM
int he safe with TJ

GateroomGuard
November 7th, 2009, 01:28 PM
He is in the infirmary dreaming about spying on James with another KINO

That might explain why James was absent during the episode.

TJ: Riley, you risked your own life to save the ship... is their anything you need?
Riley: Is Lt. James around? I could use a nurse.

Captain Obvious
November 7th, 2009, 08:15 PM
"We're going to need another Timmy!"

I would be far more amused if I could remember the reference- though I am still amused.

he most likely going to be comatose for awhile, then either die out or come back for later episodes.

Phenom
November 7th, 2009, 08:22 PM
Can you imagine waking up in hospital with TJ standing over you?

Awesome. Like porno awesome.

Lightning Ducj
November 7th, 2009, 08:47 PM
I would be far more amused if I could remember the reference- though I am still amused.


Dinosaurs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwVA698Hx2g)
my favorite (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtKQpMoplYk) - because of Earl and babys' reaction
more fun (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0dtzQBuAlE)

Nemises
November 7th, 2009, 09:24 PM
Not sure.

I'm wondering why they don't use the stones to have someone trade bodies with a Doctor to come and check him out and/or give Johansen some more medical training. Way to practical of a way to use the stones!

I pointed out this in air...but they'd rather use the stones so that chloe can go partying rather than to get specialists on board and give TJ some training.

ckwongau
November 7th, 2009, 09:27 PM
The latest Redshirt

Lightning Ducj
November 7th, 2009, 09:36 PM
I pointed out this in air...but they'd rather use the stones so that chloe can go partying rather than to get specialists on board and give TJ some training.

Bare in mind that Chloe was on Earth just as a convenience to get the IOA scientist on board to get them home. The whole plan was to get the crew of Destiny home within a few hours(ish) so there was no need to send help for TJ or really anything else

Chloe was, arguably, the least useful woman on board so she took a vacation while they used her body.

Young...the Young/Telford dynamic would've been a nuisance so putting Young on Earth probably was for the best.

Eli probably should've stayed on the ship and helped but neither the IOA/Telford crew not Rush seemed particularly interested in taking advice or seeking help

Rosehawk
November 7th, 2009, 09:37 PM
Then they can swap a Bio. Engineer on board (someone as masterful as McKay, but in field of Bio. Engineer.), and rig some equipment up from scratch (McKay style).
And do that in time to save the guys life, don't think they would have enough time ....plus I think it is more of having the right medications to help with brain swelling, blood pressure, and keeping fluids in the body to prevent dehydration, those are some of the things the stones can't provide no matter who the body swap is with.


I pointed out this in air...but they'd rather use the stones so that chloe can go partying rather than to get specialists on board and give TJ some training.
Keep in mind that Chloe's mom has made some threats about exposing the whole Stargate operations. Sending Chloe home to visit would go along way to help calm her down, so I can understand them sending Chloe home for a visit. Though they could also have left Eli on board instead of having him go partying.
Though I do agree, they should find a way to help give TJ more training or swap with a doctor that can better analysis the situation and give her some direction.

ciannwn
November 8th, 2009, 01:08 AM
Riley survives. He's listed on IMDB for Incursion, Joe also mentioned that he wrapped productions during the last day of shooting.

I hope that means he's not going to die. He's about the only character I like in the show.

Encoder
November 8th, 2009, 04:37 AM
Probably major head trauma from the force of the throw against the wall!

Could be comatose!

:sheppard:

ttsec
November 8th, 2009, 08:10 AM
And do that in time to save the guys life, don't think they would have enough time ....plus I think it is more of having the right medications to help with brain swelling, blood pressure, and keeping fluids in the body to prevent dehydration, those are some of the things the stones can't provide no matter who the body swap is with.

Then bring in a McKay-level masterful Bio. Chemist (i.e. the "Destroyer of Worlds" from SG-1 who created bio-fusion from weeds to generate enough power to dial a Stargate) to whip some medicine up from scratch. If McKay can pull Deus Ex Machina out of his ass, why can't someone else?

Lightning Ducj
November 8th, 2009, 08:35 AM
Then bring in a McKay-level masterful Bio. Chemist (i.e. the "Destroyer of Worlds" from SG-1 who created bio-fusion from weeds to generate enough power to dial a Stargate) to whip some medicine up from scratch. If McKay can pull Deus Ex Machina out of his ass, why can't someone else?

Because that's boring and done to death and they're really trying to avoid going that route

ttsec
November 8th, 2009, 10:28 AM
Because that's boring and done to death and they're really trying to avoid going that route

Unfortunately, the route they're going to is even more boring and done to death, that is, soap opera teen drama (yes, I know no one on destiny is actually in their teens, but you couldn't tell that by the way they behave), but that's slightly off topic.

NormaN
November 8th, 2009, 01:24 PM
I hope he doesn't die. To me he seems like the Walter of SGU.

Lightning Ducj
November 8th, 2009, 01:29 PM
Unfortunately, the route they're going to is even more boring and done to death, that is, soap opera teen drama (yes, I know no one on destiny is actually in their teens, but you couldn't tell that by the way they behave), but that's slightly off topic.

'soap opera teen drama' would be if all the conflict came from within the characters. So far at least the threats and drama and conflict is mostly being driven by their environment and external dangers. There are some interpersonal conflicts between a few of the characters but those tend to fit within the context of their predicament instead of being the primary focus

Eternal Density
November 8th, 2009, 02:07 PM
He got whumped!
and now he doesn't want to wake up from his wonderful dream...

Lord Hurin
November 8th, 2009, 03:36 PM
Aww, I really hope he doesn't die. If Incursion is the last ep. of the season, it could mean that Riley's in a coma and wakes up in that one. Let's hope.

I really liked what they did with him, character-wise. He seems all meek and unassuming, but the way he pushed Brody out of the way and took the risk himself without hesitation really speaks volumes about his courage.

AtlantisRules!!!
November 8th, 2009, 03:39 PM
I agree with whoever said that. ^^ He is the Walter of SGU. And, if kept alive, and if developed properly, coul becme even cooler than walter :cool:

Eternal Density
November 8th, 2009, 03:45 PM
Trust not in IMDB!

Lord Hurin
November 8th, 2009, 04:32 PM
Trust not in IMDB!

Cool. I take it they've been wrong before? I'm all for their information being incorrect in this instance! :)

Rosehawk
November 8th, 2009, 06:31 PM
Then bring in a McKay-level masterful Bio. Chemist (i.e. the "Destroyer of Worlds" from SG-1 who created bio-fusion from weeds to generate enough power to dial a Stargate) to whip some medicine up from scratch. If McKay can pull Deus Ex Machina out of his ass, why can't someone else?
With what resources on board Destiny could they do this even with a body swap? They don't even know much about Destiny yet, Rush is still trying to figure out the systems and how to make them work. Rush has said that Destiny technology predates the Ancients on Earth so what experts would be available for the immediate emergency?

The "Destroyer of Worlds" also had alot of time to learn and prepare and just needed to wait for the right opportunity to come together. And with McKay, he still had a high level of expertise and resources at his disposal to make things happen, all things that the crew on Destiny still hasn't had time to find, learn, put together, least of report on to someone in a body switch who could potentially do something about it.

Xylian
November 9th, 2009, 03:10 PM
I hope Riley doesn't die. I was beginning to like his character.:(

Captain Obvious
November 9th, 2009, 03:26 PM
Keep in mind that Chloe's mom has made some threats about exposing the whole Stargate operations. Sending Chloe home to visit would go along way to help calm her down, so I can understand them sending Chloe home for a visit. Though they could also have left Eli on board instead of having him go partying.
Though I do agree, they should find a way to help give TJ more training or swap with a doctor that can better analysis the situation and give her some direction.

Cloe is the most useless female for survival on the ship. She will be doing a TON of body swapping as the series goes on, she is the logical choice. It also gives the added benefit of shutting her mother up about the stargate.

kill 2 birds with 1 stone...at least until she starts feeling side effects from overuse of the stones.......

prion
November 9th, 2009, 06:00 PM
[QUOTE=Encoder;10809997]Probably major head trauma from the force of the throw against the wall!

Could be comatose!



Well, TJ said it was touch and go, and he did sustain blunt force trauma to his head (hence all the blood) but definitely is unconscious and that is never a good sign.

But I'm sure he'll be up and about, seeing as how Spencer was out for 7 minutes and is perfectly fine now. Me thinks the writers need to read the current news on TBI...

Orion Antreas
November 9th, 2009, 06:23 PM
I believe he will life, but he is gonna be banged up for some time.

Cold Fuzz
November 9th, 2009, 07:35 PM
Probably major head trauma from the force of the throw against the wall!

Could be comatose!

:sheppard:

I was worried about Riley there for a bit but...

...he's going to be OK.

Of all the secondary characters, it looks like Riley and Volker appear in the most number of episodes this season. This is great since they're my two favorite secondaries. Patrick Gilmore (Volker) is slated to appear in 18 episodes while Haig Sutherland (Riley) is designated for 16. We'll be seeing more of them yet. It's likely we'll see Riley gradually recovering for the next 3 or 4 episodes, much the way Col. Young did. :sheppard:

Avenger
November 9th, 2009, 07:45 PM
Not sure.

I'm wondering why they don't use the stones to have someone trade bodies with a Doctor to come and check him out and/or give Johansen some more medical training. Way to practical of a way to use the stones!

In that setting, based on the injuries Riley most likely sustained, there isn't really any more a doctor could do for Riley than TJ could do.

MattSilver 3k
November 10th, 2009, 01:34 AM
In that setting, based on the injuries Riley most likely sustained, there isn't really any more a doctor could do for Riley than TJ could do.

Exactly. Could me a lack of medicine or something like that. They should stone over MacGuvyer and have him create a medicine to reduce Riley's brain swelling (or whatever he injured when he exploded) out of used up lime, Chloe's makeup kit, and bits of dust...

ttsec
November 10th, 2009, 06:37 AM
...at least until she starts feeling side effects from overuse of the stones.......

I hope the side effect is death.

Lord Hurin
November 10th, 2009, 07:45 AM
I was worried about Riley there for a bit but...

...he's going to be OK.

Of all the secondary characters, it looks like Riley and Volker appear in the most number of episodes this season. This is great since they're my two favorite secondaries. Patrick Gilmore (Volker) is slated to appear in 18 episodes while Haig Sutherland (Riley) is designated for 16. We'll be seeing more of them yet. It's likely we'll see Riley gradually recovering for the next 3 or 4 episodes, much the way Col. Young did. :sheppard:

You made my morning, sir! Do you have a link to where that information is? I agree wholeheartedly on them being the best of the supporting cast!

prion
November 10th, 2009, 08:55 AM
In that setting, based on the injuries Riley most likely sustained, there isn't really any more a doctor could do for Riley than TJ could do.

Paramedics are skilled, but a neurologist/neurosurgeon could detect signs that a paramedic would not. Whether Riley could be patched up is another story, but if he developed a subdural/epidural hematoma (which can happen to blows to the head), TJ could NOT treat it. A surgeon could, even in the 'primitive' setting. Trouble is does TJ have any antibiotics? That is NOT standard in paramedic kits to my knowledge.

and people who sustain concussions - Riley has a severe one, at least - will have memory problems, which should be addressed in the show...

Cold Fuzz
November 10th, 2009, 09:16 PM
You made my morning, sir! Do you have a link to where that information is? I agree wholeheartedly on them being the best of the supporting cast!

Here's the info about Riley. According to Joe Mallozzi's blog...

The entry for October 29 (http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/10/29/october-29-2009-rescheduling-my-rant-final-day-of-production-more-mailbag/) states that Riley is definitely in the season finale. The secondary characters are going to be pretty busy and heavily developed in the second season.

I can't remember exactly which of his blog entries states that he's slated for 16 episodes but I remember reading that in there.

If you're interested in reading the blog, it's interesting, if lengthy reading. Personally, I can't stand Pugs. :P I like real dogs, especially the ones that look like wolves. ;) Give me a Siberian Husky or an Alaskan Malamute any day. Unfortunately, I don't have a place or a yard big enough for one. Anyway, the blog is good, humorous reading and there are great production photos there. There are a few goofy-looking pictures with many of the actors, including Patrick Gilmore (Dale Volker) with a few other people. These guys obviously have a lot of fun on the set. You should see Louis Ferreira when he's off camera. :eek:

Speaking of Gilmore, you should check out his his Twitter site (http://twitter.com/PatrickGilmore). His tweets with Lou Diamond Phillips and Ming-Na (and her "delightful ass") are hilarious!

prion
November 11th, 2009, 08:32 AM
The trouble with reading Mallozzi's blog is is does suck a lot out of the show, spoiler-wise. Even inadvertant ones. I mean, it's sorta easy to know who is and isn't on the show from reading his blog and the actor twitters, so you KNOW that so-and-so isn't going to die.

But RIley, well, it should take months to recover from that injury.

Cold Fuzz
November 11th, 2009, 05:12 PM
The trouble with reading Mallozzi's blog is is does suck a lot out of the show, spoiler-wise. Even inadvertant ones. I mean, it's sorta easy to know who is and isn't on the show from reading his blog and the actor twitters, so you KNOW that so-and-so isn't going to die.

But RIley, well, it should take months to recover from that injury.

I've actually made a point to be careful of what spoilers I may end up reading from Mallozzi's blog. The only real spoilers I've seen are how many episodes each actor is appearing in and that's about it--that and the really goofy pictures of the cast members. :sheppard:

The Prophet
November 11th, 2009, 05:20 PM
:P I have this fear that all this "Riley will be in the Season 1 finale" is going to be 100% flashbacks. >.<

God, I hope not. He's like the voice of sarcastic reason on the show.

"We've got to open some doors, don't we?"
"Do we, do we have to?"

:D

M2W
November 11th, 2009, 05:22 PM
Not sure.

I'm wondering why they don't use the stones to have someone trade bodies with a Doctor to come and check him out and/or give Johansen some more medical training. Way to practical of a way to use the stones!

Hmm... I know exactly who they should have stop by for a visit... a certain gorgeous Scottish doctor...

Cold Fuzz
November 11th, 2009, 05:52 PM
:P I have this fear that all this "Riley will be in the Season 1 finale" is going to be 100% flashbacks. >.<

God, I hope not. He's like the voice of sarcastic reason on the show.

"We've got to open some doors, don't we?"
"Do we, do we have to?"

:D

Well, I'm looking forward to seeing Riley throughout the rest of the season, along with Volker and the other secondaries. If he were killed off and on his deathbed Young promises to hold a memorial for him, Riley's final words probably could be:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a196/Aragon101/Smileys/th_Riley-DoWeReallyFirstDraft.gif

All the while, Eli will do his

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a196/Aragon101/Smileys/MathBoykinotestdraft.gif Routine.


Special thanks to Aragon101 for these. :sheppard:

Kick-Kinsey
November 12th, 2009, 04:04 AM
I get the feeling the SGU episodes will eventually come across a guy who desperately needs help and is eating up medicines like crazy. Eventually someone will have to make a really tough choice....Riley might be the first to be starved of medicine since he's already on his death bed





I'm wondering why they don't use the stones to have someone trade bodies with a Doctor to come and check him out and/or give Johansen some more medical training.

Having a second Doc might not do him much good, I get the feeling he was near death. A second Doctor is just going to show up say he needs rest, fluids, a prayer and say its 50:50....what's the point in body swapping just to hear the same diagnosis twice?

Cold Fuzz
November 12th, 2009, 04:43 AM
I get the feeling the SGU episodes will eventually come across a guy who desperately needs help and is eating up medicines like crazy. Eventually someone will have to make a really tough choice....Riley might be the first to be starved of medicine since he's already on his death bed

Rush would probably advocate such a position since people are basically just a means to an end to him. Of course, Young and everyone else on the ship would collectively groan and then argue if someone who risked life and limb to save the ship were treated in that fashion. If Rush were to make an actual such recommendation, I can picture Young broodingly muttering to himself, "A lot of work," off in one corner and then having TJ treat Riley until he keeled over.

But that's not going to happen though. ;)