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April 26th, 2004, 01:55 PM
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<FONT SIZE=4 COLOR="#006699"><B>BRIEF CANDLE</B></FONT>
<FONT SIZE=1>EPISODE NUMBER - 108</FONT>
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SG-1 discovers a race of healthy and attractive people who age extremely rapidly. The situation becomes personal when O'Neill begins to suffer from the same accelerated aging, and must live out the rest of his life on the planet.

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Excali5033
May 30th, 2004, 08:59 PM
This is more of a technical comment on the DVD audio layering, but this is the episode I noticed it on. I have to use a audio cable combiner because my television doesn't have two audio jacks. Anyway, in the scene where Jack is watching the video, the music plays as normal, but there is no dialogue. However, if I pull out one of the audio cables, I can hear it. Additionally, if I switch language tracks, I can hear the dialogue. This is the only scene (on any DVD) that I've noticed something like this. Has this happened to anyone else? It's not a problem or anything, just VERY strange.

SG_Mike
June 17th, 2004, 11:19 AM
Did'nt notice anything strange with the audio when I re-watched the episode.

Interesting story. For me (when I first watched it) I could see the history of the gou'ld trying to out do each other by any means possible. No reserve for human life at all.

Newbie
June 18th, 2004, 12:21 AM
for me it was really intersting to watch Jack thru the episode...how he changed from the begining to the time he thought he'd die and back agian ;) very thoughtful

ABYDOSCITY2
June 25th, 2004, 07:22 AM
I liked the messge that life is brief, and should be treasured. I think that is something we all forget sometimes. Jack was really sweet to Kynthia, but in a not leading her on sort of way. I think it showed how close the team had become in a short amount of time.

Anubis
June 25th, 2004, 09:39 AM
A good episode seeing Jack age and how SG-1 are communicating with him. Poor old Jack

Elwe Singollo
June 25th, 2004, 09:52 AM
I was kind of mad at that one girl who gave him the cake or something (was it cake?) that made him grow old, that kind of made be blame her...

KorbenDirewolf
June 25th, 2004, 11:05 AM
I'm pretty sure it was the "physical contact" that actually infected Jack.

Elwe Singollo
June 25th, 2004, 11:30 PM
Really? Haha... I thought it was the food, naughty girl, she drugs Jack, and makes him old!

SeaBee
June 26th, 2004, 02:41 AM
Yep, definately the "physical contact". But how come the others in the team get invited to "join in" the celebrations?

bcmilco
June 26th, 2004, 01:45 PM
Becuase their names weren't over the credits :p

Bagpuss
June 26th, 2004, 11:55 PM
I liked the idea of the Nanites. I liked the gentleness between Jack and Kynthia,and I enjoyed the "Team Friendship" moments ! :D

Elwe Singollo
June 26th, 2004, 11:56 PM
I thought it was kind freaky how the baby grew up so fast, haha, but then again, they all do, :)

Anubis
June 26th, 2004, 11:57 PM
Good old team friendship!

Bagpuss
June 27th, 2004, 12:05 AM
Yea verily,Amen and a Big "UP" to Team Friendship !! :D
I have to say the Nanite tech idea and the day/night setting gizmo were cool ideas,and I liked the way Daniel had to be the midwife.
I loved the way Sam bottled out of doing the job ! ;)

Anubis
June 27th, 2004, 12:06 AM
Good going Sam

Selmak
July 10th, 2004, 06:51 PM
Those Nanites... they can do anything.

Selmak
July 15th, 2004, 04:40 PM
I think the humanoid replicators are made of something similar to nanites.

aAnubiSs
July 15th, 2004, 04:55 PM
Probably alot more sofisticated though :D

Selmak
July 17th, 2004, 10:45 PM
prematurely aging someone is very sophisticated

Selmak
July 26th, 2004, 05:19 PM
How sophisticated can something so small get? Then again it's scifi.

Replicarter
September 4th, 2004, 07:12 AM
I felt sick looking at him when hes old, that stuf doesent look real just looks wired, and the episode was crap.

SeaBee
September 19th, 2004, 09:37 AM
On the whole I liked the episode, some good funnies, and some excellent tech.

BTW, if anybody knows the recipe for the cake, can they lat me have it? :D

zats
September 19th, 2004, 06:54 PM
To be quite frank, I really didn't like this ep all that much.

What was good:

a. Team friendship.

b. "Don't look at me, I don't know what to do!" midwife moment.

c. Premis. Great plot idea, it really illustrated how totally unrespectful of life the goa'uld are.

d. Overally funny moments. As long as I'm laughing, I've no bones to pick.

What was bad:

a. I just didn't like Kynthia. Not because she drugged Jack (hello, it was a total misunderstanding/accident); I just didn't like her. Something seriously rubbed the wrong way. I don't think she was a slut. I just didn't like her.

b. The other Argosians. The acting among the extras was kind of...bad. I thought.

c. Where do they get their food? If no one farms, but they feast everyday, who grows the stuff? And who prepares it?

d. Octagenarian Jack. Yeah, he bugged me too. Probably because I wish RDA was younger, not older--you're going to the wrong end of the spectrum! Quick! Reverse it!

On the whole, I think it was a good ep. I just...didn't like it. Oops.

JediTrilobite
October 11th, 2004, 06:18 AM
I liked this episode, it was a pretty fun one. I've actually met the author, who's recently written a Star Wars Novel, Cestus Deception. His website is www.lifewrite.com

Major Fischer
October 11th, 2004, 07:32 AM
I just wish we could have seen Janet's lecture about interplanetary STDs after this one ;)

aschen
October 11th, 2004, 07:43 AM
I just wish we could have seen Janet's lecture about interplanetary STDs after this one ;)
That would make for one interesting HS Health class!

Major Fischer
October 11th, 2004, 07:59 AM
That would make for one interesting HS Health class!

I have this image of a WWII style VD lecture with Janet standing on the ramp with the stargate behind her and all the SGC teams forced to sit in the gateroom and listen...

Cpn. Chris(tine) Bowman
October 21st, 2004, 05:44 PM
I thought this episode was pretty boring actually. Of course, the idea of Goa'uld manipulating humans to make them evolve faster was fascinating and tied up really well with what Nirrti did to the children of Hanka too. It gives Goa'ulds a whole other dimension.

Kynthia annoyed me she was soo... goody-goody and yucky ;) I did love Jack's face when he woke up, pretty much naked to see his friends staring at him. :D lol, his embarassement was priceless :)

Cpn. Chris(tine) Bowman
October 21st, 2004, 05:45 PM
I just wish we could have seen Janet's lecture about interplanetary STDs after this one ;)


Ooh, Boy! I feel a fanfic coming! :D

zats
October 29th, 2004, 02:28 PM
I just wish we could have seen Janet's lecture about interplanetary STDs after this one ;)

"And kids, this is why you always use protection..." ;) Can you imagine his version of the 'birds'n'bees' lecture to Cassie?

zats
October 29th, 2004, 02:30 PM
I thought this episode was pretty boring actually. Of course, the idea of Goa'uld manipulating humans to make them evolve faster was fascinating and tied up really well with what Nirrti did to the children of Hanka too. It gives Goa'ulds a whole other dimension.

Kynthia annoyed me she was soo... goody-goody and yucky ;) I did love Jack's face when he woke up, pretty much naked to see his friends staring at him. :D lol, his embarassement was priceless :)

Yes, I agree on all points! And in regards to the last sentence...cherish it! It's not often that we get to see Jack completely chagrined!

Lord Zedd
November 11th, 2004, 08:27 AM
I felt alseep today when I saw the episode Kinthia haba haba :D

ShimmeringStar
December 5th, 2004, 04:52 PM
I agree this one wasn't the best, but on the adequate side. It was still the 1st season and they (the writers & the actors) were still hitting their stride & 'gelling' as a team.

Zats - you know Kynthia reminded me of Sha're in facial features & build. Do you think maybe that's why she rubbed you the wrong way? It was too soon after Sha're's disappearance to have her almost 'twin' appear on the show....

I liked that it gave Jack a chance to learn another way to deal with his pain and grief over Charlie & Sarah. It helped him move away from the suicidal man he was in the movie. (Jack: "Sweet Kynthia, I've learned so much from you. I'll treasure every day of my life because of you.")

And loved the scene where Teal'c says "Perhaps it was a good Goa'uld" and Jack chokes out a laugh, spitting cake crumbs all over the place.

And of course, for anyone who's a Jack/RDA devotee... that short scene after Kynthia seduces him isn't too shabby.... :rolleyes: :D

zats
December 5th, 2004, 05:36 PM
I agree this one wasn't the best, but on the adequate side. It was still the 1st season and they (the writers & the actors) were still hitting their stride & 'gelling' as a team.

Zats - you know Kynthia reminded me of Sha're in facial features & build. Do you think maybe that's why she rubbed you the wrong way? It was too soon after Sha're's disappearance to have her almost 'twin' appear on the show....

I liked that it gave Jack a chance to learn another way to deal with his pain and grief over Charlie & Sarah. It helped him move away from the suicidal man he was in the movie. (Jack: "Sweet Kynthia, I've learned so much from you. I'll treasure every day of my life because of you.")

And loved the scene where Teal'c says "Perhaps it was a good Goa'uld" and Jack chokes out a laugh, spitting cake crumbs all over the place.

And of course, for anyone who's a Jack/RDA devotee... that short scene after Kynthia seduces him isn't too shabby.... :rolleyes: :D

The Sha're/Kynthia thing weirdly makes sense--although it's not so weird now that I think about it. Cool.

The 'sweet Kynthia, treasure every day, yadda yadda' thing made me wince--but I suppose it is sort of sweet. Maybe it'll come with time. I just have a hard time picturing Jack saying that without copious application of alcohol.

And no, the seduction scene wasn't bad! :rolleyes:

ShimmeringStar
December 5th, 2004, 06:27 PM
The Sha're/Kynthia thing weirdly makes sense--although it's not so weird now that I think about it. Cool.

The 'sweet Kynthia, treasure every day, yadda yadda' thing made me wince--but I suppose it is sort of sweet. Maybe it'll come with time. I just have a hard time picturing Jack saying that without copious application of alcohol.

And no, the seduction scene wasn't bad! :rolleyes:
*laughs*
Yeah, I agree the writers needed to work on Jack's words a bit to make it sound more Jack-ish... but I guess I was just happy he'd admitted that he was moving on and learning to come to terms with his grief. :)

zats
December 5th, 2004, 07:23 PM
*laughs*
Yeah, I agree the writers needed to work on Jack's words a bit to make it sound more Jack-ish... but I guess I was just happy he'd admitted that he was moving on and learning to come to terms with his grief. :)

Okay...I'll buy that. :)

Dead Jawa
January 3rd, 2005, 09:13 PM
This is more of a technical comment on the DVD audio layering, but this is the episode I noticed it on. I have to use a audio cable combiner because my television doesn't have two audio jacks. Anyway, in the scene where Jack is watching the video, the music plays as normal, but there is no dialogue. However, if I pull out one of the audio cables, I can hear it. Additionally, if I switch language tracks, I can hear the dialogue. This is the only scene (on any DVD) that I've noticed something like this. Has this happened to anyone else? It's not a problem or anything, just VERY strange.

I have a surround sound system hooked up to my DVD player and I get the same thing for that scene, music but no dialogue. The strange thing is that when that scene is shown again in "Politics" it has both music and dialogue (and I've made no changes to my DVD player). I never noticed it until I watched the episode on Scifi one night.

jckfan55
January 4th, 2005, 09:56 AM
Kynthia--sweet, but rather empty-headed. Guess the Gou'ald didn't worry about smarts for these people. The cake is only for O'Neill scene was priceless, though for Sam's & Daniel's reactions.

SmartFox
February 9th, 2005, 09:06 PM
I just wish we could have seen Janet's lecture about interplanetary STDs after this one ;)


LOL i was wondering about that too. Of course Jack doesnt learn the lesson real well.
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In 3x17 A Hundred Days (conidence?) he has relations with another women (cant rememebr name). Nothing happens but still you would think he would know better then that.

gone_fishin'
February 15th, 2005, 12:35 AM
Can't help feeling the director's cut would have given this a bit more substance. Like several other eps in the first 2 series, this felt toally like a Trek episode -- I can't help wondering if some of the earlier stories were originally written for Trek and then dusted down and reshaped for sg1 (Robert Cooper's book in Wormhole Extreme anyone?).

ShimmeringStar
February 28th, 2005, 04:15 AM
LOL i was wondering about that too. Of course Jack doesnt learn the lesson real well.
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In 3x17 A Hundred Days (conidence?) he has relations with another women (cant rememebr name). Nothing happens but still you would think he would know better then that.Well... in this one he was 'under the influence' of that special cake... ;) :p :D Hard to learn something if you don't have control... Although it should teach him about 'not drinking the water!' :p A Hundred Days was a tad different though. After 3 months of digging and thinking, Jack seemed to have come to the conclusion that he probably wasn't going to be rescued any time soon. Although.. now that I think about it... he did drink a bit of that homebrew that night he had relations with Laira... only to be rescued the next day! :D

PugGate
March 9th, 2005, 05:57 PM
The makeup hours must have been horrible for RDA

kelmah
March 15th, 2005, 05:48 PM
Towards the end of this ep, as Jack is aging, did they get a different actor? It doesn't really look like him anymore (besides all the makeup, I mean) and he seems to develop some sort of southern accent.

Seshat
March 15th, 2005, 06:05 PM
Can't help feeling the director's cut would have given this a bit more substance. Like several other eps in the first 2 series, this felt toally like a Trek episode -- I can't help wondering if some of the earlier stories were originally written for Trek and then dusted down and reshaped for sg1 (Robert Cooper's book in Wormhole Extreme anyone?).
I agree completely about the "too much like a Trek ep" comment. I've always thought this was one ep that would have been improved by being filmed LATER in the season after the writers had found more consistent voices for the characters. As written they are almost caricatures. And that dance scene! :rolleyes: I kept wondering why she wasn't covered in green body paint...;)

ApophisOfTheStargateRealm
April 9th, 2005, 03:47 PM
excellent episode! i just liked the plot although seeing jack like that was a bit depressing...

fair_nymph
April 10th, 2005, 10:38 AM
he seems to develop some sort of southern accent.
LOL! I noticed this also. It was a bit weird.

I liked the Greco-Roman aspects of this ep, as I am quite fascinated by that culture. Costumes, lifetstyle, architecture etc was really cool.

Kynthia annoyed me too. She just seemed so fake and artificially sweet. I was surprised by how quickly Jack jumped into bed with her.

I found the introduction of nanite technology brilliant, it really opens up alot of possibilities. They should have examined the technology more to see if it could be adapted to slow down aging instead of speeding it up.

zats
June 29th, 2005, 05:21 PM
Kynthia--sweet, but rather empty-headed. Guess the Gou'ald didn't worry about smarts for these people. Which oddly makes sense. Pelops wouldn't want his guinea pigs to reach a level of advancement that would allow them to figure that they'd been tampered with, let alone a level at which they'd be able destroy the nano-thingies.

JoshuaJSlone
August 21st, 2005, 09:25 AM
O'Neill variants played by RDA thus far this season: 4

The thing that bugged me was when O'Neill got "caked" and was taken away, the others let him go pretty easily.

.:Lemon:.
August 24th, 2005, 06:33 AM
I didn't really like this episode....I dunno why really. Maybe I'll just have to rewatch it again. Although I must say that it was good in the way it showed SG-1 as being more than just 'a team'.

Stricken
September 8th, 2005, 12:50 AM
This episode to me started the whole family thing in SG-1 they all cared about eac other which has lasted all the way to the 8th season.

walter_MacChevron
September 12th, 2005, 08:37 PM
I would have liked it more if the writers put a bigger spin on the whole concept....

Pharaoh Atem
January 31st, 2006, 06:41 PM
boy rick isn't going to age real in years to come :lol:

good episode and it shows that there weren't being to careful when there went off world like there are in the later season.

andrelage
February 12th, 2006, 12:06 PM
great episode, shame that they didn't really gain any technology from exploring the people

captain jake
May 4th, 2006, 07:55 PM
I am just glad that jack is ok personaly.

Sheppard
July 19th, 2006, 08:32 PM
yeah if jack stayed OLD!!! he wouldnt of been able to fight in all those good batles he fighted in

AussieSG-1Fan
November 10th, 2006, 08:24 PM
I also think that the make up on RDA was brilliant. It kind of gives us an insight into what he 'may' look like in years to come! I thought it was interesting how when they moved away from the village, they did not go to sleep once sunset hit.

If there had of been a follow up episode to this, we could have seen the people living away from their village, and living great lives. Not living for only a few days.

Team SG-1*save the show*
March 27th, 2007, 01:47 AM
QUOTE=fair_nymph;437794

Kynthia annoyed me too. She just seemed so fake and artificially sweet. I was surprised by how quickly Jack jumped into bed with her.

i am watching this episode now on sky one. Jack was given the cake and it was drugged. None of the others ate the cake. he also says that before he falls to sleep.

they should have made another episode about phelops/pelops and the nanite tech he used. i want to know who he was.

garhkal
March 27th, 2007, 09:15 PM
Good point.. I too would have loved to know more on that gou'ald...

Trek_Girl42
March 30th, 2007, 02:22 PM
i am watching this episode now on sky one. Jack was given the cake and it was drugged. None of the others ate the cake. he also says that before he falls to sleep.

It's remarkable how his taste for cake remained intact after this experience- if it were me I probably would have gone off it. :mckay: Though maybe just alien cake. ;)

Harlan's Speechwriter
March 30th, 2007, 10:50 PM
It was great to see just how much the SG1 team have gelled, given that they come from such different backgrounds and haven't been working together all that long. I was particularly touched by Teal'c's speech in the team's video message to Jack; it just seemed very special.

RDA did a great job in this episode. I had to be 'aged' for a role in a musical once (student performance) and it was pretty scary.

deadmanjeff
April 22nd, 2007, 10:53 AM
jack is aging at a rapid rate this is another episode that i really liked and definitely backs up the first season being my fave while later seasons had a lot of tok'ra episodes or rebel jaffa the first seasons had great standalone eps that didn't try to throw too much in the audience's face definitely recommend this ep

aaobuttons
January 6th, 2008, 01:48 PM
Can somebody explain to me why Jack de-aged at the end, but nobody else did? It seems to reason that the other people would have all de-aged as well, but maybe I missed some technobabble explaination?

garhkal
January 6th, 2008, 05:47 PM
Nope.. no techno babble that i can remember.

HelloVelo
May 19th, 2008, 06:33 PM
A fairly forgettable episode. I wonder if Sam was jealous.

3/10

Full Review: http://stargatesummer.blogspot.com/2008/05/brief-candle.html

captain jake
June 25th, 2008, 12:27 PM
Can somebody explain to me why Jack de-aged at the end, but nobody else did? It seems to reason that the other people would have all de-aged as well, but maybe I missed some technobabble explaination?

They made it seem that he "De-aged" as you put it due to his brief exposure to the Nanites after so many years of normal life. He was not born into that path of aging, therefore his body had a normal path of aging that it was returned to.

It seemed to make sense to me, however I agree with HelloVelo this was a forgettable episode.

L E E
June 27th, 2008, 07:50 PM
So those people live for only 100 days because of a goauld experiment. The brain development is that fast too? This is sci-fi, I know. But this is one of the few things I can't seem to accept.

I guess after this experience, Jack will now learn not to accept anything from strangers. Usually, Jack is careful and wary when on missions. Still, he is also a human male.

Good to see that Jack has learned a valuable lesson. Don't waste time angsting about the past, especially the bad past. Live in the now and treasure everything that is good. And don't take candy from strangers.

For me, overall, this is just an okay ep.

captain jake
June 27th, 2008, 09:15 PM
So those people live for only 100 days because of a goauld experiment. The brain development is that fast too? This is sci-fi, I know. But this is one of the few things I can't seem to accept.

I guess after this experience, Jack will now learn not to accept anything from strangers. Usually, Jack is careful and wary when on missions. Still, he is also a human male.

Good to see that Jack has learned a valuable lesson. Don't waste time angsting about the past, especially the bad past. Live in the now and treasure everything that is good. And don't take candy from strangers.

For me, overall, this is just an okay ep.

Nanites are really really impressive, in later episodes we see lifeforms made entirely of Nanites. (Not to spoil anything for you)

To tell you the truth this was one of my least favorite episodes of all of them. However it was the introduction to Nanites, which turns into a major part of the Stargate Universe.

Pic
July 19th, 2008, 10:54 AM
Well, other than Jack eating marriage cake and "kirk-ing" with a girl who's 21 days old...

The aging thing was a good plot line for a stand-alone episode. We got to see Carter and Janet work together to try to solve the problem and Gen. Hammond make a tough decision in the interest of the greater good.

Old!Jack seemed to spout off a lot of philosophy ~ perhaps aging made him melodramatic? Reflecting on his upcoming performances, I'm guessing that the characters were still settling in at this point of the series.

pritnep
July 25th, 2008, 10:51 PM
This episode was interesting purely on the living for 100 hundred days aspect and why that was so.

I'll spoiler this part just encase some people are on their first ever watch of Stargate SG-1;
Nanites having artificial intelligence like replicators - all be it a very early version but still similar. Awesome!

It was cool how both Janet and Sam were working together to "save the day" as it were. Funny how Janet used a disk to store the blood test results on hehe showing it's age.

Oh and I keep forgetting to mention this and I know we didn't see General Hammond's desk in this episode but his laptop is chunky as and so was Carters - just another thing with age, amazing how technology has changed.

I also get a chuckle when Teal'c keeps asking "What is a X?"

Overall an aspect of the episode made it interesting otherwise it was ok.

NK1969
September 11th, 2008, 08:10 PM
I watched this again the other night after a two year hiatus. The first time I saw it was on SciFi in syndication and IMO the commercial breaks really hurt the story IMO. Seeing it nonstop gives the whole impact of Jack's rapid aging that much more weight to the story.

I have to tip my hat to RDA for his acting in this one. He goes from his normal larger than life wise guy to a wise (and downright cranky) old man who becomes like a grandfather figure in short order. I loved the line about looking forward to playing shuffleboard with the fellas and about not losing his libido even though he was getting older.

OTOH if it were my grandfather talking that way I'd freak out!

L E E
September 28th, 2008, 12:55 AM
I remember RDA saying he really enjoyed this ep. He said he loved the prosthetics and make up. At least the first couple of days.

gateship15
October 1st, 2008, 02:00 AM
i like this episode. jack aging was great. i love how the machine thats aging the population was in a statue of the god and that jack kind of figured it out.

Anda
October 1st, 2008, 03:37 AM
I liked very much the first scenes of the episode.

RononXSpecialist
November 6th, 2008, 04:31 AM
Can somebody explain to me why Jack de-aged at the end, but nobody else did? It seems to reason that the other people would have all de-aged as well, but maybe I missed some technobabble explaination?

Probably because they were WAAY younger than Jack, and Jack was growing older faster than the others. Plus if the others de-aged they would all be dead.

gateship15
November 7th, 2008, 02:07 PM
i agree but i wandered if at some time there genes were manipulated so that they aged at a certain rate and to make the change permanent where as jacks weren't so he aged faster and thus he changed back at the end

The6thRace
November 9th, 2008, 05:17 AM
Probably because they were WAAY younger than Jack, and Jack was growing older faster than the others. Plus if the others de-aged they would all be dead.

Hopefully they don't return to the planet some day and find a bunch of baby skeletons lying everywhere.

leiasky
November 9th, 2008, 09:32 PM
I dunno. This isn't one of my favorite episodes. Probably because it was early on and I thought they would turn the Jack character (who I loved immediately) into another womanizing Kirk. I'm glad that didn't end up happening, but I still can't get over my overall dislike of this episode.

Cello
December 1st, 2008, 07:59 PM
What I would like to know is, how did the people learn their language in 100 days? Were they all geniuses? If so, was that a side benefit of the Goa'uld progeria treatment?

gateship15
December 2nd, 2008, 11:39 PM
i don't know could be i don't know but tell me when u find out

Cello
December 4th, 2008, 06:43 PM
Heh, if I ever find out I'll be sure to let you know.

gateship15
December 5th, 2008, 12:02 AM
ok thank u

Pic
December 5th, 2008, 12:05 PM
What I would like to know is, how did the people learn their language in 100 days? Were they all geniuses? If so, was that a side benefit of the Goa'uld progeria treatment?

The Rosetta Stone?
:lol:
Sorry, all jesting aside, I don't know the answer to this one.

Butlersgate
February 23rd, 2009, 07:11 AM
jack sounds hillarious as an old man

gateship15
February 24th, 2009, 12:24 AM
lol no arguments there i like jack as an old man

shinysign
March 6th, 2009, 08:53 PM
Very interesting episode, I enjoyed it.

There were a few thoughts I had about this episode.

1. Jack is one of my favorite characters, but it made me realize that he is not a character actor, his old man I agree was pretty funny, but I don't think it was supposed to be, at least not in the way that I found it funny, it kind of took me out of the show a bit.

2. I thought the transmitter being in the fallen horse was coincedental for two reasons. One, the townspeople I thought gave up their god too easily - if they have never even left the compound, why would they suddenly destroy their god's statue simply because an alien tells them otherwise? Second, the transmitter in the statue, I suppose that it is clever to put it in a place that they dare not destroy, but still, it is too convienent, more likely it would have been placed underground.

I also thought it was out of character for Jack to run off and have a one night stand in front of full view of his friends. It was at first implied that he had been drugged, but it was a marriage cake and the nanites caused sleep, so that means that the cake had nothing to do with it, right?

I enjoyed the episode, just a few things like that, it was an early episode too, but still, he has a crush on Carter for 7 seasons but doesn't mind running off with a girl who gives him cake?

gateship15
March 7th, 2009, 06:25 PM
it is possible that the cake also had something in it that would dug him to do that so i don't know as for the rest i kind of agree to but i never thought of it like that

shinysign
March 7th, 2009, 08:10 PM
He was acting rather strange immediately after eating the cake, and practically ignoring his team. I am going to assume that the cake had something in it, though unrelated to the aging thing. I think that makes the most sense.

However, putting something like that in a marriage cake seems unlikely, though certainly more possible than him going off with her after talking with her for about fifty seconds.

I don't mean to 'diss' the episode, I enjoyed it, I just thought that bit was odd.

Butlersgate
March 7th, 2009, 10:37 PM
It was at first implied that he had been drugged, but it was a marriage cake and the nanites caused sleep, so that means that the cake had nothing to do with it, right?

I enjoyed the episode, just a few things like that, it was an early episode too, but still, he has a crush on Carter for 7 seasons but doesn't mind running off with a girl who gives him cake?
the marriage cake did drug him, when he woke up he was like err what just happened. like he didn't remember anything, which to me sounds like being drugged.

leiasky
March 7th, 2009, 10:49 PM
Yeah, I think the cake was drugged as well, though I did have an issue with Jack's team letting him go off with this woman.

gateship15
March 9th, 2009, 12:58 AM
i agree they should have stopped him but i guess they had other things they had to do or they thought he could look after himself they may have been following orders

Petra
March 12th, 2009, 04:39 PM
I also thought it was out of character for Jack to run off and have a one night stand in front of full view of his friends. It was at first implied that he had been drugged, but it was a marriage cake and the nanites caused sleep, so that means that the cake had nothing to do with it, right?

I enjoyed the episode, just a few things like that, it was an early episode too, but still, he has a crush on Carter for 7 seasons but doesn't mind running off with a girl who gives him cake?

Although it is often perceived as such in fandom, I don't think Jack 'ran off" to have a one night stand. He was drugged. I actually don't think he should have eaten the cake in the first place, but that was Daniel's screw-up - as a resident anthroplogist he should have mentioned a possibility of marriage etc. Anyway, I think it was obvious that there was something in the cake. immidiately after eating it Jack started to laugh, then he let local women drag him away from his team with that "Hi girls", then when Kynthia danced the whole background kind of got blurry and disappeared and when he woke up in the morning he didn't know where he was or why. That screams drugs to me.

And at the time he didn't have any feelings for Sam. It was an early season 1, he was still in love with his ex-wife, he was even writing a letter to her..

gateship15
March 12th, 2009, 11:56 PM
true i forgot about that i think he was drugged

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March 18th, 2009, 04:53 PM
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The Stig
April 20th, 2009, 02:30 PM
This episode shows how much the goauld don't care about us. to shorten the lives of humans dramatically for an experiment is a truelly low act indeed. Seeing Jack as an old man was a bit of a shock. It was a nice ep to watch.

Cheerful Dragon
May 19th, 2009, 07:16 AM
A very good episode. Jack's aging was excellent. His voice, posture and movement changed and the make-up department even remembered to do his hands, something that's often forgotten. The team's reactions when he ordered them to leave him were good, too. Sam briefly looked like she was trying not to cry.

This episode is also notable for our first look at nanotechnology on this series.

lordofseas
July 31st, 2009, 03:33 PM
A very good episode. Jack's aging was excellent. His voice, posture and movement changed and the make-up department even remembered to do his hands, something that's often forgotten. The team's reactions when he ordered them to leave him were good, too. Sam briefly looked like she was trying not to cry.

This episode is also notable for our first look at nanotechnology on this series.

It's too bad that we didn't see this form of aging in another use by the Goa'uld. Like an example of an "honourable" execution, or some other form.

Sp!der
August 16th, 2009, 06:13 AM
its one of my favorites of season one! Team Episodes! Like ONeill in this one and Daniel was quite funny also. What I really like was Hammonds Argument bout his decision.

mrscopterdoc
January 31st, 2010, 04:41 PM
A very good episode. Jack's aging was excellent. His voice, posture and movement changed and the make-up department even remembered to do his hands, something that's often forgotten. The team's reactions when he ordered them to leave him were good, too. Sam briefly looked like she was trying not to cry.

This episode is also notable for our first look at nanotechnology on this series.

I agree, I think Jack was wonderful.

maneth
February 16th, 2010, 01:38 AM
Yeah, Jack was absolutely fabulous in this one. He may not be a character actor, but IMO he pulled it off convincingly. The stiff walk, shaking hands and wavering voice were perfect.

Vagabond Serpent
April 2nd, 2010, 08:51 AM
Also an example of good and hooking episodes. Jack showed his temper here and RDA portrayed old Jack perfectly. But I was always wandering: did he officially married Kynthia for the rest of show(s) or not??? :confused:

EDIT: 8/10

Tallifer
September 7th, 2010, 02:12 PM
This was a very fun episode. The seduction of Jack, and the funny old geezer he became.

"Every man has a hundred days of happiness." (Just mis-quoting from memory, but i liked that quotation.)

This is my favourite kind of episode: a good story told with humour. The explanation was somewhat daft, but it attempted to create a consistent situation.

PrinceOri
April 23rd, 2011, 04:53 AM
I loved this episode a lot!! Here is the thing: I really don't think they even knew they infected him. It's very doubtful that they knew it. Why would they do that to him? But anyway, I rewatched this episode a couple times because I just really liked it a lot. I loved how Jack was old, and said that he had some small prostate issues or something? Do you have a quote on that?

dtheories
August 6th, 2011, 10:14 AM
Ok, I'm going with my DVD on this one...Brief Candle follows 1st Commandment, so, that's what I rewatched!
Anyway, except that it's pretty, which might be why it follows so many darker eps, we learn about nanites and the Goa'uld language being the same as Linear A script...hearing Daniel pronounce Goa'uld the way others do is amusing as is the ode to Wells' Time Machine. Generally, just easy on the eyes. Poor Sam.

jlovette
August 7th, 2011, 07:31 AM
I also didn't realize the DVD order was different until after I watched this episode. Maybe I had lower expectations (I didn't see the first 5 or 6 episodes until after I started watching many of the later episodes), but I've been surprised how much I've enjoyed some these early episodes (Broca Divide, First Commandment, and even Emancipation). I'm sure a lot of it is due to how fast the cast seem to come together and play off each other.

I guess the question episode poses is: "Is my kindle the result of bringing Goa'uld technology to Earth?"

shelsfc
August 7th, 2011, 08:51 AM
I really like this ep... Jack watching the goodbye from his team is a very touching moment, especially considering the short amount of time the team had been together. Good, fun episode, love the 'Greek' exchange between Jack & Daniel at the start. Theirs is my favourite relationship in the show :)

mcbrndjms
August 7th, 2011, 05:09 PM
honestly this episode isn't one I particulary like.
It's funny seeing RDA dressed as an old guy and then looking at him now (age 61 I believe)
its kinda weird how Sam and Daniel aren't on a first name basis-I don't always remember that they weren't always friends
I always wonder though if Jack ever actualy writes that letter to Sara!

dtheories
August 7th, 2011, 05:51 PM
Jack and Daniel are one amazing pair...in any genre! Funny...I had to replay the "kindle" piece cause my brain said their were words to go along with the picture, but for some reason the audio didn't perform, so not as a touching as it probably was when seen on SyFy.

poundpuppy29
August 8th, 2011, 06:18 AM
I didn't really like this ep but it is ok

muziqaz
August 8th, 2011, 09:24 AM
Quite an interesting idea of this episode :) I quite enjoyed it :)

In most of the episodes up to this one Sam sometimes sounded like a school yards bad boy. I mean her voice.
In this episode it was: 'I think you have a fan colonel' sentence which sounded weird :)
In later episodes her voice becomes softer.

another scientist
August 8th, 2011, 12:35 PM
I loved this episode a lot!! Here is the thing: I really don't think they even knew they infected him. It's very doubtful that they knew it. Why would they do that to him? But anyway, I rewatched this episode a couple times because I just really liked it a lot. I loved how Jack was old, and said that he had some small prostate issues or something? Do you have a quote on that?

I do believe they knew he would become "infected", for them though it would make him chosen, special. They did not see it as harmful. Especially Kynthia would want Jack to age the same as she does, to "grow old" together, so to speak.

Starmover
August 8th, 2011, 02:22 PM
I watched this one yesterday. Fun episode! No weapons were fired, so that's a change. I loved when Teal'c said, "I believe this woman wishes to spend time with O'neill". That cake looked interesting, I wonder if there's a recipie out there. :hammond15:

juggernaut975
August 8th, 2011, 03:45 PM
Yep, finally had an episode I wasn't thrilled about.

I think it was the sheer, annoying power of the Argosian's cheerfulness in the beginning....it may be a sign of their naivete because, on the word of four strangers, they turn on their benefactor Pelops.

The nano-technology was interesting I guess, Kynthia was pretty dishy at that, yeah....not much salvageable about this episode.

It does accomplish two things though:

1) It shows us that we shouldn't be accepting food stuffs all willy nilly whenever we arrive on new worlds and

2) It's the first time we see that the Goa'uld used humans for experimentation. And what a terrible experiment! Imagine only being alive for three months....those poor people must have been driven out of their minds whenever their 'brief candles' were expanded hundreds of thousands of times....quite a gift from SG1, lol.

muziqaz
August 8th, 2011, 04:23 PM
I watched this one yesterday. Fun episode! No weapons were fired, so that's a change. I loved when Teal'c said, "I believe this woman wishes to spend time with O'neill". That cake looked interesting, I wonder if there's a recipie out there. :hammond15:
looked like pizza, but sounded like a cake :D

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
August 8th, 2011, 06:54 PM
Once more, an average episode. There's not a lot to say about this episode.

Lieutenant Sparrow
August 9th, 2011, 01:05 AM
My least favourite episode this season by far. The whole thing was quite boring and it was missing a lot of the SG-1 humour we are used to.

Scotaf
August 9th, 2011, 04:33 AM
I am watching this episode now and I really like this one. it is an interesting story and shows us how evil the Goa'uld can really be. I'm not really posting here to talk about the episode though. I'm watching them via netflix and I'm just clicking through and watching them in order, but on netflix this is episode 6. is it mislabeled on here or does netflix have it in the wrong order?

muziqaz
August 9th, 2011, 10:25 AM
I am watching this episode now and I really like this one. it is an interesting story and shows us how evil the Goa'uld can really be. I'm not really posting here to talk about the episode though. I'm watching them via netflix and I'm just clicking through and watching them in order, but on netflix this is episode 6. is it mislabeled on here or does netflix have it in the wrong order?
netflix has something mixed up ;)

Scotaf
August 9th, 2011, 01:55 PM
netflix has something mixed up ;)

Thanks for the information.

Jae'a
August 10th, 2011, 06:53 AM
My LiveJournal post (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/3382.html)
Looks like I'm going against the majority again because this is one of my favourites. :D

Traveler Enroute1
August 10th, 2011, 07:36 AM
Stargate Rewatch episodes: 101, 102, 103, 104, 105

Brief Candle

Some dark elements in an otherwise light episode. The Goa'uld were truly dastardly in their casual use of humans, we learn, not just as slaves but lab rats. Then there was the light team teasing when Kynthia sets her sights on Jack. Note Sam's slight snark when they find Jack undressed in the tent, and his embarrassment.

Struck me that coming after Emancipation the team allowed a member to be separated from them. While initially it's not in such an alarming situation, it didn't ring any bells that the people seemed to want this very much and prevented interference. The team could have easily overpowered them, of course, but apparently saw little threat. And although Daniel and Teal'c noticed Jack had become a bit loopy they still didn't stop Jack from being led away. Would have been a good chance for Sam to exert her 2IC status!

Memorable lines:

At the imminent birth, the men look at Sam:

Sam: "Don't look at me! I don't know what to do!" ("I never birthed no babies!" came to mind. :p)

Jack's comment that something is off:

Daniel: "It's a paradise."
Jack: "Sure, have an apple. What can happen?"

Stuff that stands out:




Teal'c knows more Goa'uld 'magic.'


Fraser's lab with clunky CRTs, and she passes Sam a floppy disk! How quaint that looks now!


I really liked RDA with chest hair.


This was a refreshingly colorful episode. Although Broca Divide sported some lighter color themes, this episode was much more so, especially in the daylight and the walk by the sea.


Loved the makeover on Jack, thought it very convincing. As was RDA's portrayal of a crusty ol' dude with a heart.


The people shed their tradition of Pelops pretty quickly, only a couple of back sliding periods on the side.


The tradition of 'never leaving a man behind' gelled more. The team gave Hammond a really hard time when he declared Jack was lost.


Wonder where their graves were, or what the rituals for the dying were. With a turnover like that, there must have been countless remains. Did they cremate them, bury them at sea, throw them into the kawoosh? Stray thought.



Another lightly cautionary tale: no cavorting with the locals and mind what you eat!

Rated 3/5

muziqaz
August 10th, 2011, 07:40 AM
My LiveJournal post (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/3382.html)
Looks like I'm going against the majority again because this is one of my favourites. :D


Although, at the beginning, the woman of the first couple SG-1 meet is in labour and when they ask for help, everyone turns to Sam as if to say "You're a woman, you know all this baby stuff, right?". After a certain few previous episodes, it seems like a step back, albeit maybe a minor one, in the way Sam is viewed. And it's Daniel who ends up delivering the baby.
I don't believe it to be step back. It is just a global cliché. Afterall jack later told Daniel that he is full of surprises, I think he feels the same with other members of the team. It is still a beginning or the series :)

Jae'a
August 10th, 2011, 08:57 AM
I don't believe it to be step back. It is just a global cliché. Afterall jack later told Daniel that he is full of surprises, I think he feels the same with other members of the team. It is still a beginning or the series :)
I suppose so, but things like that always grate on my nerves a bit. Maybe I read too much into it.. :P

muziqaz
August 10th, 2011, 12:09 PM
I suppose so, but things like that always grate on my nerves a bit. Maybe I read too much into it.. :P
It is just an instinct, nothing major :)

Krisz
August 10th, 2011, 02:46 PM
I too found myself looking at the 'old' technology. The huge 'portable' TV/Playback screen with the ariel Jack was watching the team message on, and the clunky old vacuum tube computer screens and floppy discs! It's amazing how far technology has come during the life of Stargate, you tend to forget it's been going for 14 years until you see an episode like this!!!

Oddly enough I didn't like this episode so much with rewatching it now as I did when I first saw it. 'Old mellow Jack' was still fun to watch though. I did like that they actually built a set on one of Vancouver's beaches and with good use of some CGI they made it look quite 'Mediterranean'

Great moment playing on the confusion Daniel can generate for Jack. :D

DANIEL: Thank you.
(He looks around the temple)
Wow, this…place is incredible. It's like we just stepped into the citadel at Mycenae.
O'NEILL: Thought you said it was Greek?
DANIEL: Oh, uh…Mycenae was an ancient city in the southern Peloponnesus region.
O'NEILL: Where's that?
DANIEL: (with a slight smile) Greece.
O'NEILL: (shaking his head) Why do I do that?


RDA said it was an episode he remembered having fun doing.
(From the RDA panel report I wrote up to remember stuff from the Vancouver Gatecon 2008 Convention)

Q. What is your favourite SG episode?

A. “The next one”! For him memories are the experiences and not the titles. He went through acting out a period of thinking of his favorite episode, “hmm, oh yeah, nah, oh yeah”!

He enjoyed playing a “hundred year old man”. He was in makeup for 4 hours which was fun to start with but got a bit much after 5 days. He was sad that the episode got edited too much he thought, cutting out much of his part as the old O’Neill in it. He said with feigned outrage that “Glassner wrecked it!” He then asked the audience what the title of it was… ‘Brief Candle’ came a chorus of voices in return.

Starscape91
August 10th, 2011, 08:49 PM
First of all Jack without his shirt awesome! :jack_new_anime18: This episode really showed how the Goa'uld don't care about their subjects. Also started the whole no eating anything, but rations offworld thing. Plus more Janet yay!

LeftHandedGuitarist
August 11th, 2011, 11:02 AM
It looks like SG-1 visit this planet without sending a MALP through first! Very odd.

LeftHandedGuitarist
August 11th, 2011, 11:46 AM
I can't say I enjoyed this episode all that much. Sadly lacking in the trademark humour, and overly cheesy with poor stereotype primitive villagers (only 3 of which were allowed to speak). They sure were quick to give up on their God, weren't they? - or at least, the one male character was allowed to speak was. Imagine if everyone in real life was so easy to convince!

Terrible opening teaser, hardly an exciting moment to leave us on. The woman is having a baby. Wow. It kind of set the mood for what I knew was going to be a difficult watch.

The cast extras were just as bad, one woman was just standing beside the fountain and dancing, no music, nothing. Looked ridiculous. The way the final shot of Jack froze just before the credits only lended to the cheesy factor, and reminded me of Quantum Leap or an old sitcom.

Old-age makeup never looks all that great, but this was probably one of the better examples and RDA gave a decent performance as the old man. The image of the rubber gloves distintegrating was really disturbing to me for some reason! I though that Sam would figure out that the things in the blood stream were nanites a lot quicker, it was the first thing that ocurred to me. They didn't exactly look natural, did they?

There was a very strange line from Teal'c: "What is a combination?". I didn't like that at all, just too unnatural.

There were a couple of moments here where Daniel removed his glasses in a very Clark Kent/Superman fashion! I was quite surprised at how readily General Hammond left Jack to die, it's quite out of character to how we come to know him. He didn't even want to say anything to Jack in the goodbye video message.

Rating: 4.5 out of 10

Nindif
August 12th, 2011, 01:53 AM
I can't say I enjoyed this episode all that much. Sadly lacking in the trademark humour, and overly cheesy with poor stereotype primitive villagers (only 3 of which were allowed to speak). They sure were quick to give up on their God, weren't they? - or at least, the one male character was walk allowed to speak was. Imagine if everyone in real life was so easy to convince!

The cast extras were just as bad, one woman was just standing beside the fountain and dancing, no music, nothing. Looked ridiculous. The way the final shot of Jack froze just before the credits only lended to the cheesy factor, and reminded me of Quantum Leap or an old sitcom.

Old-age makeup never looks all that great, but this was probably one of the better examples and RDA gave a decent performance as the old man. The image of the rubber gloves distintegrating was really disturbing to me for some reason! I though that Sam would figure out that the things in the blood stream were nanites a lot quicker, it was the first thing that ocurred to me. They didn't exactly look natural, did they?

There were a couple of moments here where Daniel removed his glasses in a very Clark Kent/Superman fashion! I was quite surprised at how readily General Hammond left Jack to die, it's quite out of character to how we come to know him. He didn't even want to say anything to Jack in the goodbye video message.Rating: 4.5 out of 10

Came here to give my thoughts and read that you had more or less expressed them exactly for me (albeit a few edits :P).

I'd also add i thought the job they did with the 'beach/lake shore' or wherever they were just looked horrible. I get the 'mediteranean' thing with the architecture and clothing and food, but the beach just looked dirty imo.

Having said that, and agreeing with what you said above though, i really enjoy this episode. For some reason I always rewatch it and consider it a strong ep from season 1 and i can't quite distinguish why.

I enjoy the story, the idea they were a science experiment, the make-up on RDA is great and he plays the part well and there are some generl good messages about enjoying life and following dreams etc

LeftHandedGuitarist
August 12th, 2011, 02:00 AM
I agree with you that there is nothing wrong with the story of the episode, it's actually quite powerful. It's the execution which ruins it.

hlndncr
August 12th, 2011, 01:46 PM
This is my least favorite episode of season one. The make-up, the cheesy dialog, Kynthia. (Man that woman must be desparate! She can't get any of the men in her village to take her so she tricks the stranger into "marrying" her and then continues to pursue him even when it's clear he has no real interest in her and he's becoming decrepit. The first, but not the last who probably wants his baby.)

As for Hammond leaving Jack behind, I think his actions were perfectly responsible and in character. As we've come to expect from him, he tempers responsibility with compassion. He can't risk another uncontrolled outbreak on the base (they barely got through the last one not so long ago); he has a responsibility to protect the rest of his people and the planet. But he still wants Sam and Janet to keep trying and running simulations with the computer and he appears to have authorized regular resupplies and radio contact with Argosia if Jack needs anything. It's not like he locked the address out of the dialing computer.



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Matt G
August 12th, 2011, 02:09 PM
And it was...another ep of SG1...and another one I haven't watched for ages.

1. OK...it was wierd that they ended the teaser with giving birth.

2. Didn't realise Jack would be in trouble till he hit the deck.

3. Baby growing up was seriously freaky first time round.

4. As was nanites eating through gloves.

5. Really had no idea how they were going to get out of this.

6. Can't say I really blame Kynthia. I mean a day = a year for her and she had no idea that the Tau'ri aged differently.

7. Thought the ending was a bit abrupt though.

Another decent ep.

Noxbait
August 13th, 2011, 12:30 PM
Ok so this was only the second time I've watched this one. The whole beginning part was good. Humor, unexpected events, no sign of anything terrible to come! : )

First time we saw a page turning device!!! I couldn't believe it, I had totally forgotten about it. That was a cool touch and shocked me good. I thought it was interesting that Daniel kind of snipped at Teal'c for not telling him about the fact that he could read the symbols.

And oh geeze...our first look at the bane of the galaxy, nanites! Oy. Loved the part with Janet and Sam working on them and really getting their first taste of what these monsters are capable of. shivers. Here's one thing that IMO makes SG so great....the continuity (not that they always do a good job of course!) But it was cool that such a little "by the way" thing like the nanites would eventually become one of the greatest enemies they would ever face.

I did like Kynthia. poor thing, it blew her mind when Jack told her about how long life could be. What a shake up in her world view. She wasn't really being evil or anything, just operating by her customs. Which, btw...aliens need to POST SIGNS about such things! : ) Of course, an accidental wedding worked out fine for Daniel, but not so much all the time, eh?

So, not the greatest episode, but ok. Interesting plot and another good illustration of how evil the Goa'uld are and how far reaching their wicked plots and interferences were. I did love the gorgeous colors. Nothing drab about this village.

chaddergate
August 14th, 2011, 07:00 AM
An okay episode, but doesn't seem as good, because of the 2 it follows: Cold Lazarus & The Nox. The nanites were creepy, especially when they they ate through Carter's gloves. The idea was a good one, but it didn't work out that great all together.

DigiFluid
August 14th, 2011, 09:41 AM
Ahaha, watched this earlier--completely forgot that it had Gabrielle Miller in it :lol:

mathpiglet
August 14th, 2011, 11:49 AM
snip
Another lightly cautionary tale: no cavorting with the locals and mind what you eat!



This episode reminded me of Firefly's Our Mrs. Reynolds

Space travellers: Beware members of the opposite sex offering only you certain food. :D

Noxbait
August 14th, 2011, 06:50 PM
This episode reminded me of Firefly's Our Mrs. Reynolds

Space travellers: Beware members of the opposite sex offering only you certain food. :D

Haha! You're right, somehow I hadn't made that connection with Our Mrs. Reynolds before! So true, so true. :) I'm gonna be paranoid of anyone offering me anything from here on out.... "Cupcake?" "NOOOOOO!" (unless of course he is single, handsome, rich and a SG1 fan!) ; )

VampyreWraith
August 15th, 2011, 06:14 AM
This is probably my least favorite episode of the first season. The nanites were kind of cool; Kynthia and her people, not so much.

DigiFluid
August 15th, 2011, 06:54 AM
I appreciated Kynthia. Awwww yeaaaaa :p

jelgate
August 16th, 2011, 06:13 PM
I can't comprehend the stupidity of Jack in this episode of how he contracted the disease on Argos. It makes me roll my eyes on how he throws away Air Force rules and common sense. And the nanite solution was too simple for my liking. The culture was interesting but nothing groundbreaking. An overall forgetable episode

LeftHandedGuitarist
August 16th, 2011, 11:38 PM
I can't comprehend the stupidity of Jack in this episode of how he contracted the disease on Argos. It makes me roll my eyes on how he throws away Air Force rules and common sense. And the nanite solution was too simple for my liking. The culture was interesting but nothing groundbreaking. An overall forgetable episode

It's not his fault, he is drugged and not in control of what he is doing - did you miss that part?! :p

Brother Freyr
August 17th, 2011, 01:50 AM
This episode reminded me of Firefly's Our Mrs. ReynoldsAwesome comparison. :D

Among the weaker episodes. Two points linger for me. One, it gives us greater insight to the goa'uld's opinion of humans (animals to be experimented upon). Two, we encounter nano tech for the first time. Otherwise, eh.

jelgate
August 17th, 2011, 02:30 PM
It's not his fault, he is drugged and not in control of what he is doing - did you miss that part?! :pThey never said the cake was a drug. It was speculated by Jack but never proven.

muziqaz
August 17th, 2011, 02:33 PM
They never said the cake was a drug. It was speculated by Jack but never proven.
I think the cake was a lie from the beginning :D

Noxbait
August 19th, 2011, 05:25 PM
I think he was drugged. That was my impression. I mean, he acted strange right after he ate that thing and the part where he was watching Kynthia dance made it look like he was on drugs or something! : ) I'm sorry, but I don't think Jack is at all the kind of guy to do something like that. He is far to honorable and committed to the mission and his team. I really don't buy it unless he was drugged. just my little opinion, please don't shoot me. :(

SF_and_Coffee
August 20th, 2011, 11:20 AM
I think he was drugged. That was my impression. I mean, he acted strange right after he ate that thing and the part where he was watching Kynthia dance made it look like he was on drugs or something! : ) I'm sorry, but I don't think Jack is at all the kind of guy to do something like that. He is far to honorable and committed to the mission and his team. I really don't buy it unless he was drugged. just my little opinion, please don't shoot me. :(
I agree. Just look at how he acted right after he ate the cake; he was clearly being portrayed as someone falling under the effect of a drug. And when he next saw the team... it was like he was coming down off of something that had affected his thought processes. It's pretty obvious to me that the writers intended us to believe there was something in the cake that overtook Jack's control of his own faculties and judgment.

Skydiver
August 20th, 2011, 12:24 PM
Jack was the only one that ate the cake, jack was the only one that got sick. Now it's possible that his intimate contact with kynthia allowed him to catch the nanites, but he was definitely drugged into making nookie.

jelgate
August 20th, 2011, 02:29 PM
Jack was the only one that ate the cake, jack was the only one that got sick. Now it's possible that his intimate contact with kynthia allowed him to catch the nanites, but he was definitely drugged into making nookie.Jack was also the only one had intimiate contact. Its pretty clear that is what gave the nanite sickness. I'm not one to believe that the cake caused him to do that without more proof.

SF_and_Coffee
August 20th, 2011, 02:49 PM
Well, try watching the scene again where he eats the cake, and take careful note of how he's portrayed immediately after eating it, prior to anything else that Kynthia does. That is definitely not normal Jack, and I don't know what more proof you need beyond that scene.

DigiFluid
August 20th, 2011, 02:55 PM
Heh. Not even careful attention, it's pretty painfully obvious.

jelgate
August 20th, 2011, 03:15 PM
Well, try watching the scene again where he eats the cake, and take careful note of how he's portrayed immediately after eating it, prior to anything else that Kynthia does. That is definitely not normal Jack, and I don't know what more proof you need beyond that scene.Something more concrete then your perception of how Jack acts

SF_and_Coffee
August 20th, 2011, 04:10 PM
Because of course you're incapable of perceiving it on your own? :P

Skydiver
August 20th, 2011, 04:52 PM
Jack was also the only one had intimiate contact. Its pretty clear that is what gave the nanite sickness. I'm not one to believe that the cake caused him to do that without more proof.

why do you need proof????

Even if it was the intimate contact (sparking dozens of 'STD from Hell' jokes) the cake definitely made him....libidinous ;)

Because Jack, as normally portrayed over the years, isn't the type to drop trou and nap alien nookie on a whim.


For cryin out loud folks, this is fun, not someone's thesis presentation....we can agree to disagree and live and let live

Quite frankly, the first several times I saw it I believed that he got the nanites from the cake, until you get to know the show better and realize that pelops likely never set up 'rules' about visitors.

THis episode not only showed some of the inherent dangers of alien worlds, but also that no one is immune, and if a 30 year vet of special forces can fall victim, than anyone can

SF_and_Coffee
August 20th, 2011, 04:58 PM
Sky is spot-on, I think, on all counts. :D (And I really need to give out more green more often, so I can give it when I really need to.)

jelgate
August 20th, 2011, 05:40 PM
Sky is spot-on, I think, on all counts. :D (And I really need to give out more green more often, so I can give it when I really need to.)We all can't be suck ups:P

SF_and_Coffee
August 20th, 2011, 06:03 PM
*wishes GW had a better smiley for rolling eyes than :rolleyes: *

Skydiver
August 20th, 2011, 06:12 PM
so......back to brief candle :)

there is probably one massive plot hole in just about every alien planet we see.....unsustainable tiny populations. The Argosians - like other planets we see - have too small of a population for there to be a healthy genetic diversity.

Practically, it's because they can only afford so many extras. But, in its most literal sense, a massive plot hole.

SF_and_Coffee
August 20th, 2011, 06:19 PM
I seem to recall a conversation about precisely that on another thread... I wish I could remember what thread it was now. :S It's a huge honkin' plot hole for those of us who crave logical realism in our sci-fi.

fems
August 21st, 2011, 02:46 AM
What Alekos said also doesn't make a lot of sense.

ALEKOS
(panicked)
The midwife is gone, I…I do not know the birthing mysteries. And the village is too far. Please? Help us.

Their village was very small, where could she have gone without going out of range? And the village was basically stepping out of the temple...

SF_and_Coffee
August 21st, 2011, 06:50 AM
On the drug thing, I rewatched the scene, and there's also Jack's line: "Damn, she drugged me."

Case closed.

On Alekos, the village, the distance... yeah, I don't get that part either. I mean, okay, so maybe labor happens a lot faster in these people too, given how quickly their lives pass, but still...

jelgate
August 21st, 2011, 01:17 PM
On the drug thing, I rewatched the scene, and there's also Jack's line: "Damn, she drugged me."

Case closed.

On Alekos, the village, the distance... yeah, I don't get that part either. I mean, okay, so maybe labor happens a lot faster in these people too, given how quickly their lives pass, but still...

To me that is just speculation by Jack. He is hardly an expert on drugs

SF_and_Coffee
August 21st, 2011, 01:25 PM
To me that is just speculation by Jack. He is hardly an expert on drugs
And you...?

Oh, nevermind. Some people don't see what's right in front of them. You want to believe that Jack acted completely out of character for whatever reason so you'll have something to complain about, far be it from me to attempt further to disabuse you of the notion.

The rest of us will just be over here, discussing the merits of the episode.

jelgate
August 21st, 2011, 01:28 PM
And you...?

Oh, nevermind. Some people don't see what's right in front of them. You want to believe that Jack acted completely out of character for whatever reason so you'll have something to complain about, far be it from me to attempt further to disabuse you of the notion.

The rest of us will just be over here, discussing the merits of the episode.This is S1 we are talking about. Yes it was out of character for Jack but a lot of the characters did out of characters things in the first few seasons as the writers tried to find thier feet.

SF_and_Coffee
August 21st, 2011, 01:42 PM
Right, but the writers did make it pretty damn clear that they intended the audience to believe that Jack was drugged. The way he acted right after he ate the cake -- ogling his own reflection, looking around like he was stoned -- what else could they possibly have been trying to convey there? Sure, sometimes the characters acted mildly OOC, but this was way off the scale for an undrugged Jack, and there's no other reason for them to have included it unless they were trying to convey something. And then having him say later that he'd been drugged (and how do you know that he doesn't know anything about drugs, especially given what he says later on to Daniel in the Season 2 episode "Need" about understanding what withdrawal is like?)... why else would the writers have put all that in there if not to convey the idea that Jack was in fact drugged? What else do you need -- a cut to a CGI animation showing alien molecules interacting with his brain chemistry, complete with labels and a nice cheesy voiceover narration like what you'd find in anti-drug health films from a 1970's high school curriculum???

I'm a writer, and there's something known in writing circles as "Chekhov's gun" (that's the Russian playwright Antonin Chekhov, not the Star Trek character). You can Google it, but basically it boils down to a rule in writing, whether for the stage, the screen or even the pages of a book, that says "don't put something into a scene or a story unless you mean it to be used". In other words, if you're going to include an element in something, you should only do so if you mean for it to be taken seriously, for its meaning to have importance. In "Brief Candle", the idea of Jack being drugged by something in the cake is Chekhov's gun.

garhkal
August 27th, 2011, 03:06 PM
Did we ever find out the gou'ald who actually was responsible for this planet?

SF_and_Coffee
August 27th, 2011, 04:17 PM
Pelops.

garhkal
August 27th, 2011, 09:15 PM
That;s who they called him, but i was wondering if we ever heard of him later, or found out someone else 'acted as him'..

jelgate
August 28th, 2011, 05:00 AM
That;s who they called him, but i was wondering if we ever heard of him later, or found out someone else 'acted as him'..He was not. The only time Argos was even mentioned again was in Politics and Proving Ground

SF_and_Coffee
August 28th, 2011, 05:41 AM
That;s who they called him, but i was wondering if we ever heard of him later, or found out someone else 'acted as him'..
He may have been one of the more minor Goa'uld lords who held only a very small number of worlds or perhaps only this one, and who at some point was killed or vanished or whatever. Since this world was portrayed as simply being something of a Petri dish for biological experimentation on humans rather than a resource world with naquadah mines, etc. it seems to me that probably no other Goa'uld might have bothered to actually take possession of it when that happened. Likely no one else really cared about the experiment, so they just basically left that world alone and left its people to fend for themselves in whatever automated environment Pelops had created for them, figuring that if it eventually broke down and the people died out, it was no big deal.

garhkal
September 5th, 2011, 03:13 PM
Which is why i was wondering. We know Nerti did all sort of experimentations, so was Pelpas a patsy for her, an underling??

lostmonkey70
October 6th, 2011, 03:27 PM
Watched this episode today. Really odd. Felt more like a Star Trek episode than a Star Gate one. And this episode made me glad SG-1 wasn't judged nearly as harshly as Universe, because I don't think it would have made it past the first season.

CompanionCube
October 19th, 2011, 09:09 AM
I found the whole "Jack aging" thing a little goofy, though it was a good episode showing team effort and there were some great jokes thrown in as well.
It's interesting to compare how Jack ages in this episode versus how Jack eventually aged over the years.

Dumdidu
November 13th, 2011, 03:47 AM
Nice episode.



It's interesting to compare how Jack ages in this episode versus how Jack eventually aged over the years.

Yes! :) He got a enormous forehead ;).

Dimes
December 23rd, 2011, 08:46 AM
I felt bad for O'Neill, but pretty cool to see how Jack would look like when he's old!

Pym
June 30th, 2012, 02:58 AM
Thought this epiosode was pretty boring . But I realise it is still season one.

Darkland
July 17th, 2012, 07:19 PM
This episode was one of season 1's bores. Apart from the other one I hated. The premise of the story was kind of interesting but I felt like it wasn't an SG-1 episode. It was so predictable - the aging - going to Jack - I can honestly go into the negatives of this episode, but I won't seeing as probably many people like it.

Brother Freyr
July 17th, 2012, 10:01 PM
This episode was one of season 1's bores. Apart from the other one I hated. The premise of the story was kind of interesting but I felt like it wasn't an SG-1 episode. It was so predictable - the aging - going to Jack - I can honestly go into the negatives of this episode, but I won't seeing as probably many people like it.

This was Jack's "Captain Kirk" episode. Fairly boring on repeat viewings but introduces two recurring elements: nanotechnology and goa'uld experimentation on humans.

Darkland
July 18th, 2012, 10:59 PM
I picked up on those. But what a bad episode to do it in though.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
July 19th, 2012, 06:22 AM
Remember, at this stage the show was still finding its feet. It didn't really jell until Torment of Tantalus.

Seaboe

ngewakl
December 14th, 2012, 10:40 AM
I really cannot buy the knowledge and level of maturity these people develop in a matter of days. Let's take that pregnant chick in the beginning. Born, 21 days later she has learned perfect speech, has become 9 months pregnant, and probably has other skills like cooking or something. These people have alcohol, cakes, clothing, and other things that imply that they don't just party all the time, some people have to work to create all these things. They also talk about the mid-wife which means there are specialty areas which some citizens are experts in. This is a highly functioning society that gets more done in 100 days than the regular humans on earth. Add the fact that they only have like 12 hour days because of that insane sleeping thing. That's like 50 less days. These people should be highly intelligent and highly evolved. Yet they have moments of insane stupidity. Oh, we cannot do this because Pelops will strike us down. No, I don't buy it. And this is supposed to be a Goauld experiment. The implications of this kind of technology is pretty profound. Pelops could have grown entire human civilizations very little time. Why kidnap people and move them around when you can just grow your own humans in way less time. Seriously, I really did not like the science in this episode.
Storytelling wise, it was actually a good episode with themes of friendship and death, etc. But I still did not like the premise.

Brother Freyr
December 14th, 2012, 12:53 PM
I really cannot buy the knowledge and level of maturity these people develop in a matter of days.LOL, you're thinking. Stop. Thinking. ;)

Can't disagree with what you wrote.

Vagabond Serpent
January 17th, 2013, 04:24 AM
The knowledge and maturity stuff I can't explain very good, but as I had noticed no meat present in their food, I'd think there's some kind of automatic farm... Maybe...

fems
January 17th, 2013, 05:58 AM
The knowledge and maturity stuff I can't explain very good, but as I had noticed no meat present in their food, I'd think there's some kind of automatic farm... Maybe...

Well, considering they only live for a hundred days each they can probably survive on fruit, bread, water and cake :P

Vagabond Serpent
January 17th, 2013, 07:10 AM
But these still need to come from somewhere, right? :P

fems
January 17th, 2013, 07:56 AM
True! :P

Seaboe Muffinchucker
January 18th, 2013, 06:48 AM
I had no trouble believing they could cultivate food, since I assumed plants matured more rapidly as well. To them all these things were normal, and their pace of learning fit with that normality. It's only our slower viewpoint that makes things seemed rushed.

Not that I believe this is a well-thought out (by TPTB) episode from any angle.

Seaboe

Vagabond Serpent
January 18th, 2013, 07:19 AM
Yes, that would work, but they kept telling that Pelops gave to the Chosen 100 of blissful days and that they must rejoice every minute, hence I thought there could be some automatic garden or whatever. But, yeah, not a well thought out epi for sure...

Falcon Horus
May 17th, 2013, 06:39 AM
Those were the days that not all gods were Egyptian-inspired. Anyway, a rather standard episode in which nothing much happens except for Jack getting married without knowing it, and we learn that some Goa'uld was fluent in nanotechnology. Daniel gets to deliver his second baby and shows us his translating skills. Carter and Fraiser play with nanobots (the computer disk made me giggle -- those were the days :p)... but beyond that a rather tame episode.

AsgardGirl
September 15th, 2014, 05:15 AM
Not one of my favorite episode, but not a bad one. It is shame that we didn’t see Pelops later, or see other goa’uld use nanotechnology.
Nitpicking: the planet supposed to by based on ancient Greeks from Peloponesos, but the painting in the temple is Etruscan.

Falcon Horus
September 15th, 2014, 07:52 AM
Nitpicking: the planet supposed to by based on ancient Greeks from Peloponesos, but the painting in the temple is Etruscan.

Downside of knowing the difference... most people don't even care. :p

jelgate
September 15th, 2014, 09:24 AM
Downside of knowing the difference... most people don't even care. :p

I have a similar problem in Merdian when they misuse radiation terms

maneth
August 9th, 2015, 08:34 PM
The best part of it was O'Neill's aging, because RDA did a very convincing job of making the character seem 90+ years old at the end. He even sounded old.

Anja
September 6th, 2015, 05:43 AM
No good episode for me but Daniel Jackson as midwife - good one.:daniel::jack_new_anime07:

Krisz
September 6th, 2015, 10:54 AM
The best part of it was O'Neill's aging, because RDA did a very convincing job of making the character seem 90+ years old at the end. He even sounded old.

When RDA was asked what his favourite episode was he talked about this episode at the 2008 Gatecon convention. He said he really enjoyed playing a "100 year old man" although the 4/5 hrs in makeup got a bit tiresome after five days. He said he remembered episodes by experiences rather than titles. I agree, it showed in his performance how much he enjoyed doing the old man O'Neill and he did a great job. :)

garhkal
September 6th, 2015, 07:55 PM
It's a real pity we never went back to see how the population did after the nanites got neutralized.

Falcon Horus
October 29th, 2017, 09:33 AM
There are a remarkable amount of episodes in SG-1's first season that I simply don't care too much about. Boy, I can't even understand why I ever managed to get through this season in one piece -- like, without skipping episodes like Brief Candle.

The only thing that gets me all -- ha, look at that -- is the 3.5 inch disk Janet hands Carter when she wants to show her what she found in the bloodwork they brought back. Man, did computer technology evolve since then. :p

*snort* The younger generation doesn't even know what those things are. They think it's a 3D-print of the save-icon. :p

It's not a bad episode. It's a standalone, and can easily be viewed without seeing any of the others, but if anyone showed me this, I don't think I'd be interested in more of this show. I don't know, maybe... or maybe not.

Daniel delivering a baby does remain funny. And everyone looking at Carter like she's a woman so she must know how this stuff works. :rolleyes:

The aging of Jack O'Neill though -- that's some fabulous make-up work. Allow me to copy what the Illustrated Companion has to say about it:

The first three stages (50, 55 & 65) were achieved without prostethics, using only paint. For the final four stages (70, 80, 90 & 100) prostethic appliances were added, starting with the forehead.

The effects were done by supervisor at the time Jan Newman, and special effects artists Jayne Dancose and David DuPuis.

How would you rate SG-1's "Brief Candle?"

Excellent
Good
Fair
Poor
Terrible

I'm giving it a fair because even though I wasn't wow'd by it, it was still a fairly good episode as a whole.

jelgate
October 29th, 2017, 05:37 PM
I actually hate this episode with a passion. It paints Jack with as a moron to get infected with the nanites. A military officer especially one with Jack's level of experience to know to not to sleep with an alien woman. Besides that it just seems a standard early SG1 episode of us convincing others to not worship Goa'uld as gods. I find the solution to the ageing to be rushed. This is poor to me

aretood2
October 29th, 2017, 06:24 PM
This episode wasn't very memorable for me. But this does mark the beginning of SG-1's lack of understanding on how evolution works which eventually leads us to ascension...not that I think the writers were planning on it at this point.

Falcon Horus
October 30th, 2017, 01:52 AM
I actually hate this episode with a passion. It paints Jack with as a moron to get infected with the nanites. A military officer especially one with Jack's level of experience to know to not to sleep with an alien woman. Besides that it just seems a standard early SG1 episode of us convincing others to not worship Goa'uld as gods. I find the solution to the ageing to be rushed. This is poor to me

Or be careful about what to eat. :p

Notwithstanding sexually transmitted diseases... or contact with humans from other planets... I mean, haven't they learned anything from the Spaniards infecting the native Inca's with the common cold.

jelgate
October 30th, 2017, 04:27 AM
That is a whole different story that honestly should be happening every episode. We should be infecting each planet

aretood2
October 30th, 2017, 04:11 PM
That is a whole different story that honestly should be happening every episode. We should be infecting each planet

As well as bringing back constant plagues.

jelgate
October 30th, 2017, 04:13 PM
We need a test carrier. I suggest aretood

Falcon Horus
October 31st, 2017, 01:07 AM
Like a test taster... :p

Do they get hazard pay?

Seaboe Muffinchucker
October 31st, 2017, 06:34 AM
Everyone at the SGC gets hazard pay. ;)

Seaboe

Falcon Horus
November 10th, 2017, 03:36 AM
Everyone at the SGC gets hazard pay. ;)

:lol:

It comes as a perk. :p

Falcon Horus
November 10th, 2017, 10:55 AM
Back from vacation means I have time to add the quiz and jigsaw puzzles, so here goes...

Quiz this way (https://goo.gl/forms/piHGSav59rcDlAl52), and get your jiggy on with the puzzle for Brief Candle right here (https://www.jigidi.com/solve.php?id=1U9EG65S).

aretood2
November 10th, 2017, 11:17 AM
Back from vacation means I have time to add the quiz and jigsaw puzzles, so here goes...

Quiz this way (https://goo.gl/forms/piHGSav59rcDlAl52), and get your jiggy on with the puzzle for Brief Candle right here (https://www.jigidi.com/solve.php?id=1U9EG65S).

3 Minutes and 49 Seconds...I think the human mind is trained to recognize faces the most so this was actually quite easy.

Who Knows
November 10th, 2017, 06:24 PM
5 mins 13 secs. My mind needs more training

Falcon Horus
November 11th, 2017, 05:09 AM
:lol:

jelgate
November 11th, 2017, 03:03 PM
It couldn't get any closer. I got 3 minutes and 48 seconds. So close puzzle Tood:P. 13 out of 15 on the quiz:bow:. Got a Jackism wrong and a year question wrong. I'm terrible with dates

Falcon Horus
November 11th, 2017, 04:58 PM
I can't remember which question but there is one that I had to change from what I originally had because I actually had the year wrong myself. :p

Falcon Horus
November 12th, 2017, 03:07 PM
We're all close together with the jigsaw times. Mine's 4:00 on the dot.

BethHG
June 9th, 2018, 07:52 PM
5:43. The pieces were so small, and my eyes are old.:sam34:

This is an okay episode. The best part is Daniel delivering the baby and Sam not having a clue.

Falcon Horus
June 10th, 2018, 08:56 AM
The best part is Daniel delivering the baby and Sam not having a clue.

Why would Sam have a clue? Because she's a woman?
I mean, being female does not automatically mean you know how to deliver a kid (and some of us, really don't need to know either).

jelgate
June 10th, 2018, 09:09 AM
Its because she is a doctor and Jack being Jack doesn't realize not all doctors have medical training

BethHG
June 10th, 2018, 09:50 AM
Honestly, I think Jack looked to her because she was a woman. I just thought it was funny when she basically said How would I know? It made me laugh.

Falcon Horus
June 10th, 2018, 01:30 PM
Its because she is a doctor and Jack being Jack doesn't realize not all doctors have medical training

That's so Aris Boch of you. :p

"Not that kind of Doctor."


Honestly, I think Jack looked to her because she was a woman. I just thought it was funny when she basically said How would I know? It made me laugh.

I think Jack did indeed think that. :p

Platschu
August 21st, 2018, 10:33 AM
Errors :

1. The stargate opens really weird on Argos at the beginning of the episode:
http://csillagkapu.hu/kep.php?kep=http://kepek.csillagkapu.hu/hiba/1x08/01.jpg
I believe they have mixed the wormhole disintegration and kawoosh forging animation, because the kawoosh is formed differently normally.

2. O'Neill watches a video footage about his team. Even the antenna is pulled out, while it is not a live broadcasting video.
http://csillagkapu.hu/kep.php?kep=http://kepek.csillagkapu.hu/hiba/1x08/03.jpg

Davey
August 28th, 2018, 09:38 AM
On these kinds of planets it wasn't clear to me exactly what the role of the Goa'uld was (as in Cold Lazarus as well). If the goa'uld had conquered the planet or established an experiment there, why exactly was it they never returned?
The special effects on Anderson as a very old man and his acting were really excellent.

Platschu
August 28th, 2018, 11:46 AM
Maybe it was the secret experiment of the Goa'uld Pelops then he was killed before he could return.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
August 30th, 2018, 06:47 AM
I think the fact he set up this experiment and never came back to check on it is an example of how little the Goa'uld thought of humans. It's like setting up an ant farm (https://www.amazon.com/Uncle-Milton-042499000154-Ant-Farm/dp/B0000632R8) and then ignoring it (although with the ant farm, they'd probably all die due to lack of water and/or food).

Seaboe

Falcon Horus
September 2nd, 2018, 03:36 PM
Maybe it was the secret experiment of the Goa'uld Pelops then he was killed before he could return.

Or it simply didn't go as he had hoped and abandoned the project altogether. Or he found another planet to play with, closer to home.