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Darren
September 30th, 2009, 02:20 PM
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Skydiver
October 2nd, 2009, 07:11 PM
Let me remind folks, this is for discussion ONLY up to the point where Rush picks up the silver suitcase and goes off on his own.

anything beyond that, goes in the part 2 or three thread

Pandora's_Box
October 2nd, 2009, 07:17 PM
Won't get confusing like this? Shouldn't part 1 and 2 be together seeing as they're basically linked like one long episode?

Skydiver
October 2nd, 2009, 07:34 PM
but they won't be in syndie

and if we allow a free for all in one singular thread, when it's syndicated (or, for all we know the brits get it one eps a week and not 2/1 like the us does) it'll render that thread a spoiler mine field for them

to be safe, pretty much ignore this thread and go to the part 2 one that i'll open in about half an hour

Rac80
October 2nd, 2009, 08:25 PM
my honest opinion? a poor entry into the "stargte "verse" , too much sex and too much of a soap. Unlikeable characters, jerky camera work (Yeah I know it's the "style"- still don't like it!), too many "long shots" of the destiny, someone please shoot rush...PLEASE???

Orion Antreas
October 2nd, 2009, 08:30 PM
my honest opinion? a poor entry into the "stargte "verse" , too much sex and too much of a soap. Unlikeable characters, jerky camera work (Yeah I know it's the "style"- still don't like it!), too many "long shots" of the destiny, sopmeone please shoot rush...PLEASE???

There was maybe a 20 second sex scene. :P That was all there was. It wasn't extremely graphic either. At least, not as bad as I thought it would be.

Of course, we both have different opinions on what we think is 'too much'. :P

Amalthea
October 2nd, 2009, 08:42 PM
Ok, so for the first hour, I kind of felt the flash back and flash forward was done a bit too much. I think it might have been better had they just did the scene where they're all going through the gate as they did, then gone to break and then started over from where we meet Eli and gone straight through.

Shan Bruce Lee
October 2nd, 2009, 08:50 PM
Beautiful episode. Pretty much exactly what I was expecting.

MattSilver 3k
October 2nd, 2009, 10:39 PM
Beautiful episode. Pretty much exactly what I was expecting.

Exactly. I go into this show expecting a new Stargate that's different yet the same, and that's what I got. No lofty expectations, and the fact that it was only the first two episodes is key.

My full 'review' and such is in the next episode's thread, but this episode was just as great as the second (They were the same to me).

Detox
October 2nd, 2009, 10:54 PM
My impressions?

Best iteration of Stargate yet. Everything about it was definitely solid, and I can't wait to see the conclusion of the Air 3 parter.

Most of the non-scifi review sites seem to like it, and a small minority of Atlantis fan hate it (aka the haters). So basically, it's a win win! The show's going to do just fine.

Also, not sure who's still comparing it to BSG after watching the premiere... but if you are, you clearly did not watch the same show I watch.

Last time I checked, Battlestar Galactica did not have that many moments where I laughed.

Mesmer7
October 2nd, 2009, 11:17 PM
Five minutes in, I wanted to hunt down and flog the entire camera crew. I loved the SG-1 and I was really looking forward to Universe, but the sloppy, amateurish camera work made Air barely watchable. This is one of the reasons I never got passed the pilot episode of Battlestar Galactica.

The flashbacks were also poorly done and distracting. The way it was done here, it was like jumping back and forth in a book; reading the odd numbered chapters, then backing up to read the previous chapter. It disconnects you from the characters and the action. If you want to do flashbacks, take a lesson from Highlander or Forever Knight. Don't just give us two stories to follow, make the flashbacks a part of the present story and give transitions to let us know a flashback is occurring.

bfldworker
October 2nd, 2009, 11:29 PM
There was maybe a 20 second sex scene. :P That was all there was. It wasn't extremely graphic either. At least, not as bad as I thought it would be.

Of course, we both have different opinions on what we think is 'too much'. :P

Perhaps I am weird. But I have always found Sex in a sci-fi show always interesting. Be it human on human, human on alien or alien on alien.

dosed150
October 2nd, 2009, 11:38 PM
My impressions?

Best iteration of Stargate yet. Everything about it was definitely solid, and I can't wait to see the conclusion of the Air 3 parter.

Most of the non-scifi review sites seem to like it, and a small minority of Atlantis fan hate it (aka the haters). So basically, it's a win win! The show's going to do just fine.

Also, not sure who's still comparing it to BSG after watching the premiere... but if you are, you clearly did not watch the same show I watch.

Last time I checked, Battlestar Galactica did not have that many moments where I laughed.

think it can still be compared to bsg it had the same elements of hopelessness being alone without back up, a group of people who don't get along being thrown together. the camera felt a bit like bsg as well.

Detox
October 3rd, 2009, 12:03 AM
think it can still be compared to bsg it had the same elements of hopelessness being alone without back up, a group of people who don't get along being thrown together. the camera felt a bit like bsg as well.

Some elements, but it seems much more lighter and more realistic than BSG. Galactica just made everyone a sadistic freak, I still enjoyed it, but damn... Ron Moore doesn't think too highly of people. SGU on the other hand, shows the characters in a more hopeful light, which, from what I've read of history (which I minor in), people can be surprisingly strong when pushed to it.

garhkal
October 3rd, 2009, 12:21 AM
Ok, so for the first hour, I kind of felt the flash back and flash forward was done a bit too much. I think it might have been better had they just did the scene where they're all going through the gate as they did, then gone to break and then started over from where we meet Eli and gone straight through.

I actually loved the intro to the ship and them getting there from the get go. And the flash backs was great timing imo.

dosed150
October 3rd, 2009, 12:25 AM
Some elements, but it seems much more lighter and more realistic than BSG. Galactica just made everyone a sadistic freak, I still enjoyed it, but damn... Ron Moore doesn't think too highly of people. SGU on the other hand, shows the characters in a more hopeful light, which, from what I've read of history (which I minor in), people can be surprisingly strong when pushed to it.

yeh it seems to sit somewhere between bsg and sga and sg1, think thats a good place to be bsg sometimes took itself a bit too seriously

Nemises
October 3rd, 2009, 12:46 AM
why were we using railguns ? what happened to those asgard beams ?

VFX
October 3rd, 2009, 01:13 AM
Re: Jump Cuts.

Did people not get the establishers - a sound effect or view of Destiny flying by in FTL or the Hammond or view of planet etc. - before almost every jump cut?

JIBRIIL
October 3rd, 2009, 01:34 AM
hi guys
just finished SGU

i am wondering at the opening who attacked the SGU base
they looked a lot like Goa'uld mother ships or i am mistaken ?

Shan Bruce Lee
October 3rd, 2009, 02:15 AM
hi guys
just finished SGU

i am wondering at the opening who attacked the SGU base
they looked a lot like Goa'uld mother ships or i am mistaken ?

They were the Lucian Alliance. They use Goa'uld ships and technology.

boeli
October 3rd, 2009, 04:49 AM
about those ships, since when can a few ha'taks hold off a 304, i thought we had uberbeams that could destroy an ori mothership without much trouble, let alone a few ha'taks

SGFerrit
October 3rd, 2009, 05:40 AM
about those ships, since when can a few ha'taks hold off a 304, i thought we had uberbeams that could destroy an ori mothership without much trouble, let alone a few ha'taks

1. Joe Mallozzi said this was set very soon after Atlantis' last episode, days to a week, at most. As of the last episode of Atlantis, the George Hammond wasn't complete. So in under a week, Sam has taken command of it and it's set off on it's first voyage. The fact that it didn't have beam weapons is understandable considering it's only been a week since the end of Atlantis.

2. Again, this is supposed to be set very shortly after the end of Atlantis, so...

Daedalus: Limping back to our galaxy, damaged.
Apollo: Limping back to our galaxy, badly damaged.
Sun Tzu: Adrift in space, not going anywhere for a long time. And Chinese, anyway.
Odyssey: On a secret mission.

The incomplete Hammond was the only ship available, and considering the Icarus Base was supposed to be secret, there should have been no problem sending it.

Sue_Jackson
October 3rd, 2009, 05:45 AM
It's good! It's really good! Great start on the series. Oh....it's definitely a lot darker and more serious than SG1 and SGA. It even feels more like BSG. Much much more edgier. Even the shooting style is a bit similar to BSG. But...I like it. I love the grittines and the action of it.

Loved RDA/Jack in it as a Lt. General now. Wow. Never thought I'd see that. :) The 3 stars look good on him.

MS's cameo was a bit too short. I wish a bigger part in it. Daniel has a Stargate tutorial video. Wouldn't mind sitting through that. ;)

I think I'm gonna like it. I'm curious to see how it's going.

Seastallion
October 3rd, 2009, 06:01 AM
Well, this new series so far is DEFINITELY more ADULT, than previous Stargate incarnations. (Either they did a really good job of hiding her panties, or she really wasn't wearing any... :p , I wonder if SHE escaped... lol) I wouldn't say it's 'darker' per say, but definitely not the 'us' vs. 'them' we've always had before. At this point the one guy who seems to be 'bad' is Dr. Rush, but even he doesn't seem really bad, just a bit selfish. So far I like Eli best, and there is a certain repeat of history with him, sort of like Dr. Jackson... "yeah, I just figured out a code..." Both, unwittingly, although even more so for Eli. I wonder if Chloe has a thing for Eli... she's certainly confident in him.

Before I watched it again and caught the remark about the attackers probably being the Lucian Alliance, they were actually my top suspects based on the attackers using Goa'uld ships. The other two runner ups were some Goa'uld who managed to survive, or the Jaffa, although the latter seemed rather unlikely as Earth enjoys a relatively positive relationship with the Jaffa government.

Overall, I like it pretty well so far. Still a bit early for a complete judgement call, but it definitely has potential. Who knows, maybe we'll find out the Ancients who came back to Earth, then promptly left again are actually still alive somewhere out there having actually managed to rebuild their civilization. Also, is the ship using 'Warp Drive'??? It certainly seems that way, if they aren't using a traditional hyperdrive. Perhaps it uses a subspace bubble (like a warp drive) similiar to what Carter did while trapped in that nebula. It is what makes the most sense to me.

aretood2
October 3rd, 2009, 06:13 AM
the camera work seemed a lot like the Closer. We have this whole mystery of the destiny and who attacked thing, I hope some light gets shined on this. Then there is a sinister feel to it. The drama and comic relief seems a lot like firefly to me.

the Sex scene is short and not too revealing the only thing keeping it from being like an NCIS scene is the lack of plausible explanation. I hope this doesn't drop of the writer's agenda.

I agree though, the flash backs were too strong. But I like the whole feel of mystery we are left...well on to air 2!

Madwelshboy
October 3rd, 2009, 06:21 AM
Really liked the opening shot and the following sequence of the Destiny, it was beautiful. As for the flashbacks, liked them. They did their job in explaining how these people got there, with maybe one or two exeptions and werent disjointed form the main plot like LOST.

Seastallion
October 3rd, 2009, 06:26 AM
Either they did a really good job of hiding her panties, or she really wasn't wearing any... :p , I wonder if SHE escaped... lol


Yep, she did...! LOL (I noticed the 'look' between her and the Lt. before he sent her off along with the rest to explore the ship...)

Krisz
October 3rd, 2009, 07:14 AM
A good solid start I thought. I think I'm going to enjoy finding out about the characters, enough to get me wondering and that's what I like. So I'll be coming back for more next week.

The Destiny looks great, the 'worn out' look is done really well, and I like the effect of the way it travels through space, it could be bits of it falling off but either way it does look good! :D The fact that its got holes everywhere makes the whole situation of being there more tense. The gate design is good too, adds to the feeling of the 'mark one' version of Ancient technology! Love the clunking mechanical door mechanisms, no genetic activation, great early Ancient tech feel.

I took to the character of Eli straight away, love his "what?!" response to the world, but pretty much in tune with what's going on really! You know he's going to get into his fair share of trouble, but I like his approach to things. I can already see a sort of 'father, son' thing coming with Rush there. Especially since it looks like, from what I gathered that Rush lost his kids from that scene with the photo. Echoes of O'Neill with Charlie, not caring about what happens, the one way mission.

Noticed the thing about the supplies, what was picked up in the panic, a whole case of duct tape! Loved that little joke, made me chuckle. Still Stargate in this respect! I wonder if we'll start seeing it on bits of the Destiny as the weeks go by! :)

I did like the way the Icarus base was attacked by 'unknown' forces and the fact they didn't win. A welcome return to the early days of Stargate where things had to be fought for, the 'vunerability' was back. As the point has already been made, Earth's ships took a battering from the encounter with the Wraith and I lked that continuity brought in here. We are back to 'old school' gate here, thank goodness. I really hope the days of the 'quick fix' are done with.

I hope to see that they've found the toilets! These important things should be addressed you know! Be totally realistic if those and the washing facilities are malfunctioning too. Problems with personal hygiene would certainly add to the tension and character interactions!:P

Padme18
October 3rd, 2009, 08:02 AM
Ok, so for the first hour, I kind of felt the flash back and flash forward was done a bit too much. I think it might have been better had they just did the scene where they're all going through the gate as they did, then gone to break and then started over from where we meet Eli and gone straight through.

I definetally agree with you there. That annoyed me.

So far I do like it though. I'm looking forward to seeing the relationships of the characters and other things.

What is Rush's plan? Does he have other orders?
What were TJ and Camille talking about on the Icarus base?
What is Eli going to end up doing? I mean he's a gamer, not exactly someone who should be helping with things.

boeli
October 3rd, 2009, 08:05 AM
1. Joe Mallozzi said this was set very soon after Atlantis' last episode, days to a week, at most. As of the last episode of Atlantis, the George Hammond wasn't complete. So in under a week, Sam has taken command of it and it's set off on it's first voyage. The fact that it didn't have beam weapons is understandable considering it's only been a week since the end of Atlantis.

2. Again, this is supposed to be set very shortly after the end of Atlantis, so...

Daedalus: Limping back to our galaxy, damaged.
Apollo: Limping back to our galaxy, badly damaged.
Sun Tzu: Adrift in space, not going anywhere for a long time. And Chinese, anyway.
Odyssey: On a secret mission.

The incomplete Hammond was the only ship available, and considering the Icarus Base was supposed to be secret, there should have been no problem sending it.

ah okay, that is reasonable, didnt know when it was taking place in regard to SGA.

Atlanis
October 3rd, 2009, 08:08 AM
the only problem I have with this is that Andy Mikita was only given a co-producer credit, Martin Gero only did one or two years of Atlantis before he became Excutive Producer and Andy has been with the show since Atlantis was a dream in Brad Wright's head!

TheLastSunset
October 3rd, 2009, 08:51 AM
I thought it was an ASTOUNDING episode. It exceeded my expectations. I thought the characters interacted so well for being the pilot episode. The acting was great from everyone and the show was so realistic. I really enjoyed the characters, especially Rush. It was wonderful to see Jack, Daniel, Sam, Walter and Lee. Am I forgetting even more that were in the episode? I love the concept of the show. It's the perfect progression from where Stargate's gone before. The sets were quite appealing and the CGI was even better than it's been before. The only thing I didn't like were some of characters moralistic reactions to Rush's logical words. But it's realistic that people just aren't there yet in terms of thought-ability.

Corona
October 3rd, 2009, 10:13 AM
my honest opinion? a poor entry into the "stargte "verse" , too much sex and too much of a soap. Unlikeable characters, jerky camera work (Yeah I know it's the "style"- still don't like it!), too many "long shots" of the destiny, someone please shoot rush...PLEASE???

Thanks, you saved me a lot of typing. Was that RDA? He looked a little pudgy.
I liked the beam up of Eli, that was funny.

I was keeping note of who I thought should 'get it'!

I'll watch again and see what happens.

rowie4life
October 3rd, 2009, 10:55 AM
I'm not sure if I liked the show. Greer and Rush were interesting characters, the rest were meh. I donít understand why they started off in the middle and then did flashbacks; it broke up the flow of the story.

Rac80
October 3rd, 2009, 11:21 AM
Thanks, you saved me a lot of typing. Was that RDA? He looked a little pudgy.
I liked the beam up of Eli, that was funny.

I was keeping note of who I thought should 'get it'!

I'll watch again and see what happens.

the intro of eli was "borrowed" from a rather horrible teen scifi movie of the 80's called the last starfighter.... they need some original ideas. (or atleast borrow them from decent shows :P)

jelgate
October 3rd, 2009, 11:30 AM
the intro of eli was "borrowed" from a rather horrible teen scifi movie of the 80's called the last starfighter.... they need some original ideas. (or atleast borrow them from decent shows :P)

Their is no such thing as an original idea these days. If you look hard enough in any show you will find it in an older show

Rac80
October 3rd, 2009, 11:59 AM
Their is no such thing as an original idea these days. If you look hard enough in any show you will find it in an older show

it wouldn't have been so bad if they borrowed a "good "idea not a horrible one..... and it was completely the same idea... win a video game get to save the world....

jelgate
October 3rd, 2009, 12:03 PM
it wouldn't have been so bad if they borrowed a "good "idea not a horrible one..... and it was completely the same idea... win a video game get to save the world....

And who gave you the authority to decide what is a good or bad idea?

Like I said if a person looks hard enough people are going to find the "same" ideas in what they see. Look how many times fan whine this has been done in Star Trek when an SG1 or SGA episode appeared

Rac80
October 3rd, 2009, 12:57 PM
And who gave you the authority to decide what is a good or bad idea?

Like I said if a person looks hard enough people are going to find the "same" ideas in what they see. Look how many times fan whine this has been done in Star Trek when an SG1 or SGA episode appeared

I can state my opinion as authoritatively as you can. :P the best way to "borrow" an idea is to cleverly re-write it so no one realizes what you are borrowing....this wasn't simply the idea it was the entire plotline.:S and the movie tanked so horrible describes it well... don't tell me you loved the movie right? ;)

LoneStar1836
October 3rd, 2009, 01:58 PM
I love "The Last Starfighter". :(:P I fondly remember that movie from my childhood. :)

Meh. If they want to borrow that idea, well okay, but that has to be a pretty terrible game to have to play if some nearly impossible mathematical solution is the only way to advance/beat it. Who'd want to play that? :S Thus how would it get much circulation? Far fetched way of recruiting Eli, imo, but I can ignore it.

s09119
October 3rd, 2009, 02:25 PM
it wouldn't have been so bad if they borrowed a "good "idea not a horrible one..... and it was completely the same idea... win a video game get to save the world....

They weren't saving the world, though, were they?

JackHarkness_Hot
October 3rd, 2009, 03:48 PM
Whatever did happen to Telford? He was on all promos, he was in the show until the evac, where did he go?

SoulReaver
October 3rd, 2009, 03:49 PM
too much sex and too much of a soap.too much ? lol...you'd hate BSG then http://img.infos-du-net.com/forum/icones/smilies/lol.gif


someone please shoot rush...PLEASE??? Rush ? if there's anyone they should have got rid of it's that crazy soldier who was in detention. they should've left him in his cell on that planet, now the next best thing to do is toss him out the nearest airlock

LoneStar1836
October 3rd, 2009, 03:56 PM
Whatever did happen to Telford? He was on all promos, he was in the show until the evac, where did he go?
He was piloting a F-302 (or whatever the number is for SGC fighters) to protect the base. So he probably landed on the Hammond before they jumped away.

garhkal
October 3rd, 2009, 04:03 PM
I hope to see that they've found the toilets! These important things should be addressed you know! Be totally realistic if those and the washing facilities are malfunctioning too. Problems with personal hygiene would certainly add to the tension and character interactions!:P


From what i have gathered, since the ship is supposed to operate unmanned, i doubt it has any facilities..


the intro of eli was "borrowed" from a rather horrible teen scifi movie of the 80's called the last starfighter.... they need some original ideas. (or atleast borrow them from decent shows )

For your lack of faith in the last star fighter i shall have to atomic wedgie you!

s09119
October 3rd, 2009, 04:06 PM
From what i have gathered, since the ship is supposed to operate unmanned, i doubt it has any facilities..

Ah, but the Ancients were planning to gate onto it eventually, so it should.

JackHarkness_Hot
October 3rd, 2009, 04:12 PM
I wonder if the Destiny has shields. In theory it should but if TPTB want BSG/old school, I can see Destiny having just ablative armour, which has failed years ago on certain areas of the ship.

echidnadon
October 3rd, 2009, 04:47 PM
anybody thrown off by the speed at which people came tumbling out of the gate at the beginning? people seemed to go in in an orderly fashion but they literally came flying through at the other end.

i missed the first half hour of the show last night, so all i saw at the time was the entrance into the wormhole. when i saw the beginning of the show today, i had no idea that the pile-up of people was supposed to be the exit from that same trip. very confusing. (i'm pretty sure sam said that the speed at which you enter is the speed at which you exit.)

on another note, it bothers me that the only black person of significance so far is someone who is supposed to be in detention and that the hr person's first thought on seeing him is that he should be locked up. way to go.

my first impression of eli and rush was that they must be sgu's mckay and zelenka. "oh those must be the nerds." when will those stereotypes be broken? the premise of getting a younger, edgier person by selecting him from a video game is a tad shaky in my book.

i didn't like the senator, well really it's his executive bouffant. when chloe said she loved him, i thought "if you loved him so much why didn't you get his hair fixed?" :/ i'm glad they offed him.

not sure how i feel about the show overall. i'm not as negative about it as the above comments probably suggest, but i also don't think it's going to be an sga rising for me, which i can watch (the first half at least) over and over again with enjoyment. i am going to watch it again and stay tuned for future eppies.

oh, a question i haven't looked around to see if this has been discussed already: there was a fanfic that this seems a lot like. i think it was stargate: destiny. it had to do with an ancient ship traveling around picking up life forms from various planets that was supposed to coordinate with the thing on dakara to reseed life in the galaxy. is anyone familiar with it? and did anyone else feel there was a resemblance?

cheers,
e

Orion Antreas
October 3rd, 2009, 04:49 PM
I wonder if the Destiny has shields. In theory it should but if TPTB want BSG/old school, I can see Destiny having just ablative armour, which has failed years ago on certain areas of the ship.

Yes, it does. At least, it does have emergency energy shields that go up when there is a breach in the hull. We saw it when Scott, Riley, and James were trying to open the door and with the damaged Shuttle.

PG15
October 3rd, 2009, 04:49 PM
Well, it does have force field technology, so I hazard a guess that it will have some kind of shield.

altimasmitty
October 3rd, 2009, 06:43 PM
I would assume she has shilds...however one thing that caught my eye a few times are the Cannons on this baby. I have to rewind my DVR a few times to get a good look at them. You see the first one in the opening sequence right before you see the shuttles.

the fifth man
October 3rd, 2009, 07:19 PM
Nice start to a promising show IMO. Just got to watch it.

s09119
October 3rd, 2009, 07:22 PM
I would assume she has shilds...however one thing that caught my eye a few times are the Cannons on this baby. I have to rewind my DVR a few times to get a good look at them. You see the first one in the opening sequence right before you see the shuttles.

So I wasn't seeing a trick of the light! I thought I saw some nasty-looking weaponry, but wasn't sure. I can't wait to see the Destiny in action!

Orion Antreas
October 3rd, 2009, 07:38 PM
Whatever did happen to Telford? He was on all promos, he was in the show until the evac, where did he go?

Look for him in 'Air, Part 3'.

the fifth man
October 3rd, 2009, 08:23 PM
Look for him in 'Air, Part 3'.

Yeah, we should see more of him this coming Friday.

Stormtrooper
October 4th, 2009, 12:22 PM
So Chloe is the one responsible for embedding the mathematical problem into the game? It's all her fault! :D

techwork
October 4th, 2009, 04:29 PM
I hate BSG I hate BSG I hate BSG I hate BSG
SGU is clon BSG .
Eli Wallace - how he was found I saw in the 90s in the American science-fiction film. In that film as a pilot for the spacecraft selected. And he flew into the motership remember and then blew it. yess. But this guy probably the most old school. But the name he gave for drone is clearly not in subject. Kino oh yeahh and Dr. Nicholas Rush as Viktor Tsoi... (Whoever does not understand, see wiki)

The rest of "stylish" characters seem to be cross as hamsters in different combinations. fu.c.k on wide screen ... ou and in space. Yes really in space...
But Eli not so "stylish" and therefore immune from this.

Ship or should be in perfect condition, or should long ago have become a pile of debris over millions of years, rather than wait for the visitors.

And when the Dr. Nicholas Rush is looking pictures at home and crying that makes our flag on his wall?

Pfff for me this is all is crap. boring clon BSG. yes for BSG fan this give a lot fun. But not for me.
From my POV Air rating is 40 % and I hope Khattak were Russian and came to shoot this stupid idea.
But i old stile gaters and form affected by spermtoxicosis newager BSG fan's before release of air "Caprica" - finding.
If you like BSG see SGU that you will enjoy much more, because all that you do not like BSG removed. More 90210 an low depression. But..... this is not for me... for me this as some garbadge and very little pile with Sam Carter, Jack O'Neill, DDD and Eli maybe not bad.

techwork
October 4th, 2009, 04:40 PM
the intro of eli was "borrowed" from a rather horrible teen scifi movie of the 80's called the last starfighter.... they need some original ideas. (or atleast borrow them from decent shows :P)

The Last Starfighter (1984) YESSSS thank I could not remember. :)

dosed150
October 4th, 2009, 05:08 PM
i think the last starfighter thing would have been much better if they hung a lantern on it, i mean eli is probably the kinda person who would have seen it so im surprised he didnt comment

Rac80
October 4th, 2009, 07:05 PM
The Last Starfighter (1984) YESSSS thank I could not remember. :)

the movie was very forgettable :P

Eternal Density
October 4th, 2009, 09:39 PM
but that has to be a pretty terrible game to have to play if some nearly impossible mathematical solution is the only way to advance/beat it. Who'd want to play that? :S Thus how would it get much circulation? Far fetched way of recruiting Eli, imo, but I can ignore it.No, the 'Dakara Weapons Puzzle' sounded like an extra 'side quest' that people could try if they really wanted, but wasn't necessary to play the rest of the game.

I loved all the shots of the Destiny. (and everything else but that's particularly worth mentioning)
I didn't find the show exceedingly 'dark' and the camerawork didn't bother me at all.
(Disclaimer: I never intend to watch BSG)
[edit]
Obligatory tradition continuation:

Ronon's Mission Report:
"Bunch of people ran away from an enemy. That was dumb. They went way too far. Wasn't my fault. End of report."

Ramses818
October 5th, 2009, 11:07 AM
I thought that there should have been more backstory up front to the icarus base, the project, etc.

Does anyone know why the lucian alliance up and fired on the base? And how in the world doe a few shots make a planets core go critical.


Charachters:

I like Eli Wallace. He is every scifi fans dream charachter. I think that Rush is a good charachter. I don't know about Young. Scott is good. TJ is blah. No idea about Wray. Chloe, I think that I will dislike her. I get the feeling that she will be the object of everyones attraction to get her into bed. Although she will probobly be the conscious of the show.

jelgate
October 5th, 2009, 11:13 AM
I thought that there should have been more backstory up front to the icarus base, the project, etc.

Does anyone know why the lucian alliance up and fired on the base? And how in the world doe a few shots make a planets core go critical.

It was a secret base and in the Lucian Alliance's mind we are at war with them.

It was said that the planet's core is really unstable

MIZA
October 5th, 2009, 02:51 PM
great episode , but i wonder who's going to get punched in the face next , they need to learn to work together

Naomi
October 6th, 2009, 06:51 AM
my honest opinion? a poor entry into the "stargte "verse" , too much sex and too much of a soap. Unlikeable characters, jerky camera work (Yeah I know it's the "style"- still don't like it!), too many "long shots" of the destiny, someone please shoot rush...PLEASE???

I agree, for the most part. Stargate: Universe was more Stargate: Homage. In an effort to stay away from being considered similar to SG1 and SGA, SGU kept running into other science fiction movies and series, such as "The Last Starfighter", and "Lost in Space". The camera work is different from SG1 and SGA, but it isn't new, and I don't like it.

The characters? Ugh. A lot of bickering. Seemingly some of the criteria for being part of the special project was the ability to panic and yell. The only cool head was Dr. Rush. Dr. Rush was cool-headed in a Dr. Hannibal Lecter way, without Hannibal's charm. Someone really needs to beat Dr. Rush senseless.
My favorite part was when the man and woman were driving around squeezing squeaky toys in order to get their dog back...oh, wait...that was a commercial. Still, it was the brightest spot.

I can only hope that almost every new character introduced so far is somehow eliminated, and a new set of characters is introduced in the second part.

Pharaoh Atem
October 6th, 2009, 09:40 AM
i love this premiere greer scares me and eli will be the next mckay but less moody :) and joel's new scores for the series is great.

Coronach
October 6th, 2009, 10:14 AM
i love this premiere greer scares me

Greer surprised me a lot. He didn't get a lot of material, but he had enough that he left me intrigued. I like that he has a very different personality than I expected.


and eli will be the next mckay but less moody :)

I actually don't see much in common with them so far, but that's just my impression I guess. He's certainly nowhere near as experienced in Ancient technology as McKay.


and joel's new scores for the series is great.

Totally agree. From the opening score, I was totally taken in :D

Eshkar
October 6th, 2009, 11:30 AM
ok... I love the show, it throws a bit of real human interaction into the mix... like sex and such. It has a good story line and plot. Love the start, they beam Eli out of his house... (though Richard D. Anderson has gotten chubby); not to mention it is great to have new Stargate anything on.

But ok... I know this would mess up the whole struggle to establish themselves story line... but they have the earth made backward engineered Ancient long range communication device with them, which they plainly stated has five communication stones... hence five people at once can use it. Ok so you now have Dr. Jackson, Carter, Mckay, Zelenka, and Dr. Beckett all on earth, the dream team of Ancient anything. So you have five of the people on Destiny that aren't doing anything but kvetching... like the IOA lady, use the stones and swap with Jackson, Carter, McKay, Zelenka, and Beckett. Beckett can then go treat all the wounded, also probably help identify any ancient medical tech on the ship. The others can help Rush and Eli repair the ship. Now I am not saying that be a permanent thing, but at least a way to get the ship operational enough to support life.

Of course that might mess up the writers need for a struggle for survival, but in my opinion you have an established character base at your beckon call, it is almost insulting to established Stargate Mythos to not use those resources; especially when you throw the Ancient long range communication device into the story line.

Vagabond Serpent
October 6th, 2009, 12:08 PM
The very good pilot episode, in my opinion. I was totally hooked onto the SGU after watching it and now I can't wait for the 3d episode... :D

About the ship: It was launched from Earth millions years ago and is very old and derelict and falling apart. (What about the gate-seeding ship(s) that was (were) launched even earlier, then???:confused: Are they even more old and damaged???) People'll spent a whole lot of time fixing it. And the two things that interest me:
1) These "proto-jumpers" are indeed very intriguing - when will the new crew pilot them?
2) It's obvious from the ship view that it doesn't have common mind-controlled ancient weapons (sorry, I don't know how they are called in English). So I can't help myself waiting to see how these big guns will unleash fire on someone:p

About the characters: I think that this doctor Rush have something filthy on his mind. Honestly, if I were Greer, I'd shoot him. He annoyed me from the very first appearing of his till the end of pilot. I don't like him at all, he drives me mad! :mad:

The others are fine enough, I think. Only this gamer, Eli isn't in his place. He was a bit annoying too. And when he called that flying video ball "Kino" after Russian something (he never manged to finish his phrase, though, and I'm glad about that), I've started to hate him! :mad: Yes, we do have the word "????" in Russian Language, but it'll be "a movie" in English. So that's equal to me calling my digital camera "Movie" or "Cinema"!!!

What about others? We'll see in later episodes.

In general, I think that the drama and tension is very good placed into the series. And I've noticed nothing bad with the camera work, either. I've never watched BSG and don't intend to. So everything is very, very good to me. Outstanding ep!:D
New franchise will have a big success, IMHO. :cool:

P.S.
I've watched the original movie of 1994, SG-1, SGA, Ark of Truth and Continuum and I'm saying: that's the best pilot into all the series! A few plot holes in the very beginnig can be easily closed if you'll recall endings of SG-1 and SGA, by the way.

That_is_all_for_now

Automission
October 6th, 2009, 12:58 PM
This is good. Really good. Fantastic really. The theme music is incredible, the acting/writing seems brilliantly done, to be honest, it makes Atlantis look like a childs poorly written dream.

I'm loving this, it doesn't feel different from Stargate, but it's well written, which makes it feel oh so different. Really quite amazing.

Linda06
October 6th, 2009, 01:03 PM
Well I watched the first part and I must say I rather enjoyed it :o *hides from Jel*

I like Colonel Young, he seems like a very capable leader. I must say though that the Sergeant guy is an ass :p


And well Joel is just a musical genius :D

I must admit I went into this show with so much reservation and I convinced myself it was gonna be crap. Well i'm a big enough person to admit when i'm wrong....Yes Jel you heard right, I admitted I was wrong :p

I just hope they keep it up and it doesn't fall by the wayside like SGA did :S

Cycrow
October 6th, 2009, 02:34 PM
I love "The Last Starfighter". :(:P I fondly remember that movie from my childhood. :)

Meh. If they want to borrow that idea, well okay, but that has to be a pretty terrible game to have to play if some nearly impossible mathematical solution is the only way to advance/beat it. Who'd want to play that? :S Thus how would it get much circulation? Far fetched way of recruiting Eli, imo, but I can ignore it.

ud be amazed at the dedication of some gamers and they things they do in games.

if such a game really existed, i bet at least a few ppl will spend considerable time trying to find a solution.

most casual gamers would be put off of course, but then, thats not the sorta ppl they would want anyways ;)

Sue_Jackson
October 6th, 2009, 02:36 PM
I too went in thinking I'm not gonna like it. But...I did end up liking the pilot. I wanna see more. I wanna see how it all plays out.

I like Col. Young. I find him to be very strong leader.

I like Scott. I dunno...call my crazy. But...I like the guy for some odd reason.

Love Eli. I think he is adorable. Love his innocence. His wide-eyed child-like personality.

I also find Dr. Rush very fascinating. *hides under table* That's right. I like Dr. Rush. I respect them man and his intelligence. He is like the tormented scientist and very passionate in his work.

dosed150
October 6th, 2009, 03:06 PM
I too went in thinking I'm not gonna like it. But...I did end up liking the pilot. I wanna see more. I wanna see how it all plays out.

I like Col. Young. I find him to be very strong leader.

I like Scott. I dunno...call my crazy. But...I like the guy for some odd reason.

Love Eli. I think he is adorable. Love his innocence. His wide-eyed child-like personality.

I also find Dr. Rush very fascinating. *hides under table* That's right. I like Dr. Rush. I respect them man and his intelligence. He is like the tormented scientist and very passionate in his work.

if dr. rush was a real person i wouldn't like him but hes a good character

Automission
October 6th, 2009, 03:14 PM
Dr Rush is a great character who I feel will open up within a few episodes. This still is the three part pilot we're watching, give them time to perhaps correct his personality. :)

I do dislike Eli though, he seems like an alright character, got a good confidence in him. My only gripe is he seems like the Rodney McKay of Universe. Just he's braver. Hell, when I was looking away from the TV briefly and I heard him talk, I swear I thought Rodney McKay was making an appearance.

Linda06
October 6th, 2009, 03:18 PM
Dr Rush is a great character who I feel will open up within a few episodes. This still is the three part pilot we're watching, give them time to perhaps correct his personality. :)

I do dislike Eli though, he seems like an alright character, got a good confidence in him. My only gripe is he seems like the Rodney McKay of Universe. Just he's braver. Hell, when I was looking away from the TV briefly and I heard him talk, I swear I thought Rodney McKay was making an appearance.

Oh good god no...He's nothing like Mckay thank god :S ;) For a start there was no shouting at the top of his lungs every time he opened his mouth, and no incessant whining :D

Automission
October 6th, 2009, 03:23 PM
Haha that's true, but he had the McKay aspect of "oooh whats this, this is cool" and then whenever he opened the ships doors, he did a McKay style Panic. :p

He probably won't be at all thank god, although the voice is similar, as is the body/facial shape actually. How odd.

Linda06
October 6th, 2009, 03:28 PM
hmmmm, now when you put it like that.......But one plus he has, he's not as annoying :D I don't think anyone could be as annoying ;)

Automission
October 6th, 2009, 03:38 PM
Too right, and I honestly hope he never gets that far! If he does, someone better give him a punch. Afterall, if SGA had been given the same sort of attitude SGU has, I'm sure Rodney would have been beaten to a pulp and had several lemons wedged in his mouth! :p

s18sav
October 6th, 2009, 03:40 PM
Just saw the eppisodes there on sky1 and have to say great pilot eppisode I have to say dare I say it I thought it was better than the altantis pilot 5 years ago, I kind of figuared out SGA right away and had an Idea whare it was going half way through the first 2 eppsidoes "rising", but with the SgU I am on a cliff hanger I dont know wats gona happen or whare they are going with it.... And I luv that I kuv the supspence ! 10/10 from me !

Linda06
October 6th, 2009, 03:45 PM
Too right, and I honestly hope he never gets that far! If he does, someone better give him a punch. Afterall, if SGA had been given the same sort of attitude SGU has, I'm sure Rodney would have been beaten to a pulp and had several lemons wedged in his mouth! :p

:eek: OUCH :p

Easter Lily
October 6th, 2009, 03:47 PM
I don't mind Eli -- there's a nice kind of ordinariness about him that I can relate to, like a cousin or a neighbour. He's not super good looking and he's a bit weighty -- definitely not a glamour boy but that's a good thing as far as I'm concerned.
I don't see the similarities with McKay at all... the man's completely obnoxious. Eli's certainly enthusiastic, has faltering comic timing but definitely not arrogant. Probably a different sort of home life and upbringing.
Aside from Scott and TJ, no one else in the cast looks to me to be a movie star -- makes for a much more believable atmosphere. That's why I don't think the BSG comparisons really apply. BSG was grimly surreal.

Frontastic
October 6th, 2009, 03:57 PM
Oh its been so long since I've been on Gateworld!

Anyway, I did enjoy that. I think it was the best of the three series pilots, still not as good as SG-1 or SGA's best episodes but better than their pilots. I'm quite glad I stopped reading the news here because I had no idea Amanda was going to be in it(don't actually remember even seeing her name in the Guest Starring). Seeing her really was my highlight. The production values are really good, the increased budget is very noticable. But I didn't like the space battle scene, the CGI looks way too video-gamey, the Hatak's looked awful, the SG-1 S1 one Hataks looked more realistic. Loved the score, at times sounded quite like Mass Effect. The only characters I really like are Rush and Eli, mainly Rush.

Few things I've been wondering:

1. Was that SG Worlds Eli was playing, starting to look quite cool.
2. They had a DHD on Icarus, why were they using the much slower computer system?
3. Remember at the end of Continuum Sam mentioned a moon base to Jack? Could that have been Icarus? They did say it was about two years ago the base started which would sort of fit.
4. Does anyone else think this Lucian leak could be the focus of the 3rd SG1 movie?
5. RDA is looking so old!

LoneStar1836
October 6th, 2009, 04:03 PM
No, the 'Dakara Weapons Puzzle' sounded like an extra 'side quest' that people could try if they really wanted, but wasn't necessary to play the rest of the game.
You're probably right. The throwback to The Last Starfighter had the main character defeat the final level, but this looked more like an RPG type game.


ud be amazed at the dedication of some gamers and they things they do in games.

if such a game really existed, i bet at least a few ppl will spend considerable time trying to find a solution.

most casual gamers would be put off of course, but then, thats not the sorta ppl they would want anyways ;)I'm a casual gamer and certainly would have no interest in it...don't quite have that kind of patience. :D Course I'm not that big a fan of RPGs either.

I still think it's rather far fetched that this is how they found Eli, but I'm not too fussed at the homage to one of my favorite movies from the 80s.

garhkal
October 6th, 2009, 04:09 PM
I too, wanna see what they have to activate those big honkin guns

Ben 'Teal'c would WIN!!' Noble
October 6th, 2009, 04:20 PM
saw air parts 1 and 2 (missed a couple of seconds at the start of 2)

When was there a SEX SCENE!

jelgate
October 6th, 2009, 04:52 PM
saw air parts 1 and 2 (missed a couple of seconds at the start of 2)

When was there a SEX SCENE!

Right before Chloe, Eli, Rush, and Sen. Armstrong beamed to the Icarus base

jafacakes
October 6th, 2009, 05:14 PM
saw air parts 1 and 2 (missed a couple of seconds at the start of 2)

When was there a SEX SCENE!

Hmm, I think it was cut on sky because I didn't see one either. The closest thing is when we see Scott running down the corridor doing his belt or something . Someone suggested it was cut because it was aired at 8pm and it will be on when the episodes are repeated tomorrow (wednesday) on sky2 at 9pm.

The Shadow
October 6th, 2009, 05:26 PM
anybody thrown off by the speed at which people came tumbling out of the gate at the beginning? people seemed to go in in an orderly fashion but they literally came flying through at the other end.

Well, that's very understandable. To travel such a distance, galaxies away, with the ninth chevron requiring so much power and never been used before until now, I am not surprised that there were some repercussions such as being flung through the gate. I mean, remember in the earlier SG-1 episodes, people often came through the gate to the outside at high speeds as well and covered in thin layer of frost. It is most likely the energy that it took to travel this far gave the people a shove, a strong force of momentum.

And in Col. Young's case, the explosion and shockwave he was riding on when he dove through the gate probably, combined with the natural push force from the stargate itself, added to the momentum that threw him harder than all the others, hence why whlile others were more like shoved through the gate and he was thrown clear across the whole gateroom.


I hate BSG I hate BSG I hate BSG I hate BSG
SGU is clon BSG .
Eli Wallace - how he was found I saw in the 90s in the American science-fiction film. In that film as a pilot for the spacecraft selected. And he flew into the motership remember and then blew it. yess. But this guy probably the most old school. But the name he gave for drone is clearly not in subject. Kino oh yeahh and Dr. Nicholas Rush as Viktor Tsoi... (Whoever does not understand, see wiki)

The rest of "stylish" characters seem to be cross as hamsters in different combinations. fu.c.k on wide screen ... ou and in space. Yes really in space...
But Eli not so "stylish" and therefore immune from this.

Ship or should be in perfect condition, or should long ago have become a pile of debris over millions of years, rather than wait for the visitors.

And when the Dr. Nicholas Rush is looking pictures at home and crying that makes our flag on his wall?

Pfff for me this is all is crap. boring clon BSG. yes for BSG fan this give a lot fun. But not for me.
From my POV Air rating is 40 % and I hope Khattak were Russian and came to shoot this stupid idea.
But i old stile gaters and form affected by spermtoxicosis newager BSG fan's before release of air "Caprica" - finding.
If you like BSG see SGU that you will enjoy much more, because all that you do not like BSG removed. More 90210 an low depression. But..... this is not for me... for me this as some garbadge and very little pile with Sam Carter, Jack O'Neill, DDD and Eli maybe not bad.

Well, it is very obvious that you do not enjoy a show with intelligence and thought and rather rant about how much you hate a show in a most rude manner.

Don't watch it if it's "crap" as you so kindly put it.....

There wasn't any character that came across as "stylish", none of them looked like some big movie stars, they just look like normal people who got in over their heads.

And as for your statement that SGU is a BSG clone, you couldn't be more wrong. Yes there are similiarities in the fact that both shows involve a bunch of people trying to survive on a ship, but the similiarity ends there.

Whereas BSG tended to be more dramatic, nihilistic, and dreary, SGU keeps a strong hold on a sense of optimism, that this wasn't the end of the world, that somehow they would figure things out and get home. There was never a feeling of being bogged down by huge baggages of tense emotions, the trademark Stargate humor still remains an important factor of the show. BSG had a tendency to take itself too seriously, to the point where their stories became just way too depressing and heavy-handed to watch, but SGU knows how to use humor to lighten up the mood.

There is nothing wrong with focusing on character and drama as SGU seems to do more of, but of course, if you'd rather watch machines go ping, people shoot at each other, and a black and white view of good and evil, well, I'm sure the Universe community will do just fine without an intelligent mind like yours.

Ben 'Teal'c would WIN!!' Noble
October 6th, 2009, 05:44 PM
Just read the trans-script of air part 1, they cut it from the episode in the UK on Sky 1.

Automission
October 7th, 2009, 12:17 AM
Yep, we got shafted good. I suggest you email sky and complain as I have done.

Also I agree stargates CGI is getting worse. Some of it looks good, but they don't put the time in. THe Ha'taks did look terrible, almost as bad as the CGI pyramid in the COTG's remake.

SG7
October 7th, 2009, 07:14 AM
Something I noticed as a bit of a nitpick (I usually don't notice these things but this one puzzled me), I was wondering how they could even dial the Destiny as it would have been moving. As we saw in SG1 that the SG1 crew gated to Apophos' ship and then the SGC could not get a lock on that address, as the ship was no longer in orbit or range was it of a particular planet? Or am I just missing something?

jelgate
October 7th, 2009, 07:22 AM
You'll notice since the Destiney was in sublight at the time it had a unquie gate address

neufel
October 7th, 2009, 12:47 PM
Whoa. Seriously. Whoa.

I was scared, as, i assume, many of us. Edgier, dark, sex, all that stuff "What about my Stargate ?".

Well our Stargate is here. We can feel it. SGU isn't a show who wants to erase its past. It's just evolution.
Stargate is looking for ascension : SG-1 was already an evolution compared to the movie. SGA tried to push some ideas further, but was still in some ways in the same stade.
And now we have something "all-new all-different".

With only 2 episodes we learned more things about the characters than we did in one season of Atlantis.
That's new. It's cool to see heroes, but if it's well written, it's even better to learn why they're heroes.
And Rush. After the father-leaders we used to love in SG-1, and the human-hearted leaders of Atlantis, I'm really enjoying to watch him taking decisions.
This time it's not "leave nobody behind", it's "he's behind. But we're alive. Please stop complaining."

I didn't see Air like an insult to SG1 and SGA (with Hata'ks and SG1 team, I'd even say they were nice to us), but more like a different way of storytelling.
I still hope SG1 and SGA movies will come out, because this universe will need the two aspects now to make us really, really happy.


Few things I've been wondering:

2. They had a DHD on Icarus, why were they using the much slower computer system?
4. Does anyone else think this Lucian leak could be the focus of the 3rd SG1 movie?

2. Without that, there's not our "chevron one locked". And that's bad.
4. That would be great. Certainly not because SG1 would become "the back story", but it would be cool to see how SG1's acts created the Lucian attack, and therefore how they created the Icarus disaster without knowing !
Yes I'm mean, I sometimes want to see SG-1 fail.

BTW, great episode. I don't know many TV pilots which were that interesting.

poundpuppy29
October 7th, 2009, 03:23 PM
I enjoyed this I had alot of reservations but I liked it, it will take me awhile to get used to the camera work but story was good and so was the characters.

I liked the sex scene because I know the boys in military are a bunch of horny boys especially the younger ones and girls too and if you are stationed in a place for a long time people will get busy that was one of my gripes about SGA to the non shippers to expect those grown adults to be celibate for that long is not accurate I may have my shipping preferences but they would have had personal lives on Atantis. SG-1 is different because they were stationed on earth so they could theoretically just had lives outside SGC I just like to ship.

I loved Eli right away and I liked Chloe too.

As for it being a soap opera not really I watch mainstream shows too and some fans say this too on those boards and it doesn't wash with me because it is a way of telling stories if you want to watch just procedue watch real science shows or documentarys but aslong as you watch fictional shows with characters this is a way of telling stories it's not the only way but it has been around as long as people have been telling stories it's part of human nature.

techwork
October 7th, 2009, 04:45 PM
I loved Eli right away and I liked Chloe too.

Ohh Yes Let them cross a hamster and show this a close up on wide screen. :cameron:

atlantean84
October 8th, 2009, 09:15 AM
AWESOME! I was playing independance war 2 edge of chaos, one of best pilotes actually^^ and that ship is familiar with heavy corvette class ship, and expresions like ftl were used there much ... good old times^^ shame they dont have full starship repair system facility,... anyway guys i think they chose actors well ;)

Ja matane^^

Eternal Density
October 8th, 2009, 04:36 PM
Few things I've been wondering:

1. Was that SG Worlds Eli was playing, starting to look quite cool.
3. Remember at the end of Continuum Sam mentioned a moon base to Jack? Could that have been Icarus? They did say it was about two years ago the base started which would sort of fit.
4. Does anyone else think this Lucian leak could be the focus of the 3rd SG1 movie?Yeah, the SG Worlds people put that together for SGU. I believe the moon base is completely unrelated to Icarus. And I hear there will be more from the Lucians later in the season; I doubt the movie will cover it.


You're probably right. The throwback to The Last Starfighter had the main character defeat the final level, but this looked more like an RPG type game. An MMORPG to be precise.


Well our Stargate is here. We can feel it.Indeed!

2. Without that, there's not our "chevron one locked". And that's bad.Hehehe, yeah :D

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
October 9th, 2009, 03:44 AM
anyone want to tell me why they split up Air Part 1 and 2 into two seperate episodes on itunes instead of it being one long one (i.e. Rising or Children of the gods?)

spinny magee
October 9th, 2009, 03:49 AM
anyone want to tell me why they split up Air Part 1 and 2 into two seperate episodes on itunes instead of it being one long one (i.e. Rising or Children of the gods?)

No idea.

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
October 9th, 2009, 03:49 AM
and wouldn't Air, Part 1 end with Carter saying "then where did they go?" and part 2 starting with Scott telling everyone to split up.

Lotto
October 9th, 2009, 02:31 PM
I don't get this new one at all. What spaceship is your man beamed up onto? Does this base and stargate at Iarcarus or whatever its called have anything to do with the US Airforce?? What were they doing on Iarcarus....sorry, haven't seen it yet, first episode airs on tuesday here.

kzap333
October 10th, 2009, 10:54 AM
I hate to say this but I really disliked the pilot, I wasn't even planning on watching it but my brother saw it on youtube and convinced me to give it a shot.
It was just what I thought it would be: dark, edgy, characters based, everything Stargate isn't.
What I actually found hilarious though, was for a show that is trying to be 'realistic' it had; two marines making out in a closet while on duty and best of all had the military hiring someone for solving a puzzle they put out in a video game, that just cracked me up, it's seems like something you would see in a comedy.
The thing is, it just doesn't feel like stargate at all, all this time gateworld were saying it would be "the same but different" and still "feel like stargate" and to me it just didn't.
There's a chance if you happen to like SG1 and SGA you may happen to like this (the producers obviously did) but that wouldn't be because you like stargate it would be because you like dark, character based shows.
The action and special effects were okay, some of the green screening was deadly obvious and some off the lighting seemed a little off (on the Hammond).
The shaky camera was fine in my opinion, but this show isn't stargate to me, it's exactly what I thought it would be and have been complaining about since I first heard about it.
Just a bit of a spoiler for the next episode as I didn't see all of it:
Why couldn't they use one of the Kino's to shut of the room (which is losing are) instead of sending someone to sacrificer themselves or use a big stick, is that what they did? I can't be bothered to watch to the end to find out.

I gave up half way through, I kept looking at the time code thinking "just 20 minutes to go" then realized there's no point me battling through to the end of a show I don't want to watch, hopefully we get more SG1 and SGA films but I doubt it, I've been right so far and I think we'll get one SGA film and maybe another SG1 film and that will be that, stargate dead for me, it was a fun 6 years (how long I've been a fan) for me but this is where I get off the stargate band wagon, I honestly wish everyone who likes SGU the best and hope that you continue to enjoy the show but I can't help it if I don't.
I'm not bitter it was fun while it lasted but all good thing must come to an end and this is the end of stargate for me.

Good bye.

Anubus
October 11th, 2009, 12:10 AM
I'd just like to know if the writers were told BSG has finished?

Rush = Gyus
Young = Adama
The IOA woman will surely become the president
The young Lieutenant will be like the son of Adama.

It was full of complaints, whiners, whingers, what was it lets look deep into the characters physco make up and see what their emotions are saying??

Give us entertainment not some show that we want to go and shoot ourselves.

This has 2 Seasons Max unless you sack the current writing staff and change the direction immensely.

Pharaoh Atem
October 11th, 2009, 11:51 AM
I'd just like to know if the writers were told BSG has finished?

Rush = Gyus
Young = Adama
The IOA woman will surely become the president
The young Lieutenant will be like the son of Adama.

It was full of complaints, whiners, whingers, what was it lets look deep into the characters physco make up and see what their emotions are saying??

Give us entertainment not some show that we want to go and shoot ourselves.

This has 2 Seasons Max unless you sack the current writing staff and change the direction immensely.
i am easily the biggest bsg fan on the forum and i can tell you i don't see any of the bsg characters in the SGU cast!!!!

you need to watch the show with a open mind and not watch it thinking of bsg or any other show. when watching sgu i know i'm watching stargate.

Icarus Base
October 15th, 2009, 11:30 PM
At the beginning of Air Pt 1, when the ship came out of hyperspace and it slowly came up to the screen, along with the music...i expected a very deep voice to surface and say. "Space...the final frontier".

Did anyone else feel like this could of happened?

:)

garhkal
October 16th, 2009, 08:21 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if someone did that for a fan flick cut job..

Arga
November 3rd, 2009, 12:22 PM
About Chloe's drinking frenzy...

Anyone wondered what TPTB wanted to show us about Chloe when she was at the dining table, and her father, senator Armstrong was doing a speech (saying that Chloe was the one who had the idea to introduce the puzzle in a video game); Chloe was drinking compulsively, like she was very embarrassed or annoyed or crazy..

I found this bit strange.
Was she mad at him or just didn't want to have the spotlight on her?

Mclean
November 14th, 2009, 04:24 AM
I was just wondering why, in Tamaras flashback (about half an hour in), Camille asks her "if Colonel O'Neill know about this". Why Colonel? Was it so long ago or was it a mistake? Or did I hear wrong :D? I've Sky+ it so I'll check again!

jelgate
November 14th, 2009, 07:08 AM
Wray said Colonel Young

Pharaoh Atem
November 14th, 2009, 04:31 PM
At the beginning of Air Pt 1, when the ship came out of hyperspace and it slowly came up to the screen, along with the music...i expected a very deep voice to surface and say. "Space...the final frontier".

Did anyone else feel like this could of happened?

:)

no cause i knew i was watching starGATE

LtHawk
November 18th, 2009, 08:36 AM
Ok, so i was rewatching Air part 1; and it dawned on me, yes, they had people taking the expedition supplies through the gate - but if you pay attention, no one wheeled that giant water container on board, and on top of that, why have everyone carry 1-2 things when you could simply have 3-4 soliders (2 on the ground near the gate where the supplies were, and 1-2 on the ramp) handing each other supplies and just tossing them through - now granted, they were under attack, but they had 6 minutes to get as much through as possible. Also, why havent they started looking through the ancient crates that were left there yet? hmmm?

Arga
November 23rd, 2009, 04:44 AM
Ok, so i was rewatching Air part 1; and it dawned on me, yes, they had people taking the expedition supplies through the gate - but if you pay attention, no one wheeled that giant water container on board, and on top of that, why have everyone carry 1-2 things when you could simply have 3-4 soliders (2 on the ground near the gate where the supplies were, and 1-2 on the ramp) handing each other supplies and just tossing them through - now granted, they were under attack, but they had 6 minutes to get as much through as possible. Also, why havent they started looking through the ancient crates that were left there yet? hmmm?

i think it's because people thought they were going to EARTH! so they only took their personnal belongings that they didn't want to see destroyed...
but.... surprise surprise!

candylyn
November 27th, 2009, 06:59 AM
Hi,

I am watching The History Channel and a new Windows 7 commerical come on and on the computer screen in the commerical is.... the distruction of the Icirus Base (sorry for spelling) from the first episode of SGU, Air part 1, along with a Lucian Alliance controlled Goa'uld Mother Ship.

The commerical starts wit with a British guy, tyrone, being flown to Texas because he wants a PC to be an entertainment machine and they show the computer they made for him to him and that's when you see the SGU shots.

Has anyone else seen this?

Jper
November 27th, 2009, 07:03 AM
Hi,

I am watching The History Channel and a new Windows 7 commerical come on and on the computer screen in the commerical is.... the distruction of the Icirus Base (sorry for spelling) from the first episode of SGU, Air part 1, along with a Lucian Alliance controlled Goa'uld Mother Ship.

The commerical starts wit with a British guy, tyrone, being flown to Texas because he wants a PC to be an entertainment machine and they show the computer they made for him to him and that's when you see the SGU shots.

Has anyone else seen this?

YouTube link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znADMag_B9s

GateWorld Forum Thread:
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=71732

spinny magee
January 15th, 2010, 09:20 PM
First time trying this sort of stuff, but anyways all opinions in this solely belong to me

Air Part 1
-------------------------------
Boy the moments before the first seconds of the episode were unbearable, I had been waiting for ages for this. I wasn't dissapointed at the first scene at all, great views on the ship and score by Goldsmith yet again :).

Scenes after that were average I guess, the camera work was hard getting used to, because I am a die hard Stargate fan, but the camera work removes a key stargate element for me. Ah yes now for the part that seemed pointless for the pilot, the sex scene. In later episodes this James/Scott thing was never followed up and I hope it does eventually, seemed like a pointless scene.

Good to see some Old faces in there, Jack......sort of, Carter in command of a ship, awesome, makes me think back to "ye good olde days"

Left me wanting more, however my main criticism is that we didn't see an inter-base fight. Would of loved that but didn't happen.

Anyways Solid episode, could of been better for a Pilot yes but

3/5 Stars

timebandit
February 2nd, 2010, 08:32 PM
this may have been mentioned before - pardon if it has. by the way i really did enjoy the pilot and most of the other eps so far:

okay. how did eli call his mom from the hammond, while its in hyperspace, even if before, i thought phones wouldnt work from up there.

the flash backs and forwards really helped to show what was going on w/the crewmembers before during and after the escape from Icarus, it was really awesome. I was a bit thrown w/the flow of them but they worked out. I was pretty surprised Icarus was attacked, & at that not long after the arrival of eli, chloe, the senator etc [seemed they werent there long anyway]. action packed, carter and o'neill were great too. a bit brief though, made me want to find out what the story w/the crew is....what was in the case young HAD to bring w/him, whole bunch of things!

one other thing that seemed cool, just before the gate from icarus dials on destiny - lights on the ship seem to come on. like its 'waking up'. [or someones already there and whatnot].

Mike.
February 7th, 2010, 10:02 AM
okay. how did eli call his mom from the hammond, while its in hyperspace, even if before, i thought phones wouldnt work from up there.

Subspace communication, relayed through the ship's systems.
He used a headset so we don't know if it was connected to a mobile or directly to the ship.


one other thing that seemed cool, just before the gate from icarus dials on destiny - lights on the ship seem to come on. like its 'waking up'

I loved that part. Great way to start. :)

StargateWatcher
April 3rd, 2010, 01:14 PM
my honest opinion? a poor entry into the "stargte "verse" , too much sex and too much of a soap. Unlikeable characters, jerky camera work (Yeah I know it's the "style"- still don't like it!), too many "long shots" of the destiny, someone please shoot rush...PLEASE???

Rush's character is designed to do just that; as many people say, "You love to hate him."

Keepin that in mind, I find this series to lack at least 90% the Stargate essence which endearred fans to the the frist 2 Stargate shows. I dunno-perhaps droppin the name Stargate from the show kinda like the Star Trek series did to Enterprise might work better--show arguably could have some merits on its own.

In this first episode, I like Young's chara cter but that's it.

StargateWatcher
April 3rd, 2010, 01:19 PM
I'd just like to know if the writers were told BSG has finished?

Rush = Gyus
Young = Adama
The IOA woman will surely become the president
The young Lieutenant will be like the son of Adama.

It was full of complaints, whiners, whingers, what was it lets look deep into the characters physco make up and see what their emotions are saying??

Give us entertainment not some show that we want to go and shoot ourselves.

This has 2 Seasons Max unless you sack the current writing staff and change the direction immensely.

interesting character correlations here

agree w/ Rush=Gyus n Young=Adama

don't think Camille Wray's worthy comparin to Laura Roslin tho; Roslin has much more good intentions even tho she's addle-headed sometimes

Lt. Scott is much less competent than Captain/Major/Commander Lee Adama tho at commandin

StargateWatcher
April 3rd, 2010, 01:30 PM
It's good! It's really good! Great start on the series. Oh....it's definitely a lot darker and more serious than SG1 and SGA. It even feels more like BSG. Much much more edgier. Even the shooting style is a bit similar to BSG. But...I like it. I love the grittines and the action of it.

Loved RDA/Jack in it as a Lt. General now. Wow. Never thought I'd see that. :) The 3 stars look good on him.

MS's cameo was a bit too short. I wish a bigger part in it. Daniel has a Stargate tutorial video. Wouldn't mind sitting through that. ;)

was surprised he's been prmoted up that quickly
what an unconventional 3-star he'll be lol
hope he stil gets to go offworld ennough fr his liking

I think I'm gonna like it. I'm curious to see how it's going.

was surprised he's been prmoted up that quickly
what an unconventional 3-star he'll be lol
hope he stil gets to go offworld ennough fr his liking

albatross
May 17th, 2010, 03:32 AM
Hmm. So far I don't like it. It's too much like BSG. The reason I like SG1 and Atlantis so much more than BSG is because they aren't weighed down with an over-inflated sense of self importance. This takes itself way too seriously. And all the characters are extremely irritating. Only good thing about this ep were the brief scenes of Sam onboard the Hammond. :(

spinny magee
May 22nd, 2010, 12:01 AM
why were we using railguns ? what happened to those asgard beams ?

This

RedXian
May 25th, 2010, 09:15 AM
Is that Agam Darshi sitting next to Eli during the dinner scene.?

Agam is Kate Freelander from Sanctuary.

Pharaoh Atem
May 31st, 2010, 08:12 PM
Is that Agam Darshi sitting next to Eli during the dinner scene.?

Agam is Kate Freelander from Sanctuary.

and according to this unlrealble source you are correct http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Agam_Darshi

Parallel Reality
June 10th, 2010, 05:50 PM
I found the back and forth between the ship and icarus base a bit distracting.
It really canceled out a lot of the mystery when there
was no one left on the base and sam asked 'where'd they go'?
Other than that I really enjoyed this episode.

MylittleEli
June 18th, 2010, 11:22 PM
Hmm. So far I don't like it. It's too much like BSG. The reason I like SG1 and Atlantis so much more than BSG is because they aren't weighed down with an over-inflated sense of self importance. This takes itself way too seriously. And all the characters are extremely irritating. Only good thing about this ep were the brief scenes of Sam onboard the Hammond. :(

Its funny that so many ppl say this. I totally DON'T think that SGU is like BSG! I understand that it has some similarities in terms of cinematic effect, but the story style and characters are so totally different from BSG I just don't see the comparison. SGU has so much more humor and realistic human characteristic, IMHO, compared with BSG where all the characters were so over the top and unrealistic that they were sometimes a little annoying and distracting.

I am right in the middle of rewatching this episode since I VOD'ed it today, and its funny how much I've forgotten since I last watched it which was just before the end of the hiatus. There are alot of little facial expressions and subtle things that I'm just catching even now, even though i've seen it twice before.

Pharaoh Atem
June 20th, 2010, 09:50 AM
was no one left on the base and sam asked 'where'd they go'?
Other than that I really enjoyed this episode.

i loved that line

Parallel Reality
July 19th, 2010, 03:51 AM
i loved that line

I rewatched "Air" on DVD (Without ads :) ) and I enjoyed it a lot more.
As for the whole jumping back and forth thing I actually liked it the second time around, now that I knew what to expect.

Blizzah
July 27th, 2011, 08:12 AM
I have just finished watching SG-1 and SGA over the last year and this was my first episode of SGU. I was not sure what to expect since the show has already been cancelled and a lot of negative reviews are posted, but I did enjoy the premiere, it was interesting and finding out about new ancient technology is always cool. A few of the characters were annoying but hopefully they will not get too much screen time. As this is my final SG to watch I am saddened by the fact that the episodes are not suppose to get much better.

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
November 1st, 2012, 04:05 PM
Great first episode (I only watched the first part this time).

The score for this first part was amazing, makes you think they hired someone else to compose the score (but they didn't).

I think this episode is more action-based than SG-1 (both of them, CotG, and kind of pilot/reboot, Avalon) and SGA which may or may not be a good thing.

Tomorrow, the middle part (what a rarity for Stargate, or any other TV Show) of this Pilot/Premiere episode.

Krisz
November 1st, 2012, 07:03 PM
A good solid start I thought. I think I'm going to enjoy finding out about the characters, enough to get me wondering and that's what I like. So I'll be coming back for more next week.

The Destiny looks great, the 'worn out' look is done really well, and I like the effect of the way it travels through space, it could be bits of it falling off but either way it does look good! :D The fact that its got holes everywhere makes the whole situation of being there more tense. The gate design is good too, adds to the feeling of the 'mark one' version of Ancient technology! Love the clunking mechanical door mechanisms, no genetic activation, great early Ancient tech feel.

I took to the character of Eli straight away, love his "what?!" response to the world, but pretty much in tune with what's going on really! You know he's going to get into his fair share of trouble, but I like his approach to things. I can already see a sort of 'father, son' thing coming with Rush there. Especially since it looks like, from what I gathered that Rush lost his kids from that scene with the photo. Echoes of O'Neill with Charlie, not caring about what happens, the one way mission.

Noticed the thing about the supplies, what was picked up in the panic, a whole case of duct tape! Loved that little joke, made me chuckle. Still Stargate in this respect! I wonder if we'll start seeing it on bits of the Destiny as the weeks go by! :)

I did like the way the Icarus base was attacked by 'unknown' forces and the fact they didn't win. A welcome return to the early days of Stargate where things had to be fought for, the 'vunerability' was back. As the point has already been made, Earth's ships took a battering from the encounter with the Wraith and I lked that continuity brought in here. We are back to 'old school' gate here, thank goodness. I really hope the days of the 'quick fix' are done with.

I hope to see that they've found the toilets! These important things should be addressed you know! Be totally realistic if those and the washing facilities are malfunctioning too. Problems with personal hygiene would certainly add to the tension and character interactions!:P

Interesting to see what my first impression of SGU was. Not much has changed with rewatching it.

I do wonder where I got the idea that Rush was crying for the loss of his kid when looking at the photo, on subsequent viewings I didn't see a kid in it! :confused:

Viewing it for a few times made the chopping and changing from the present events and the past ones, showing how they got to the Destiny make a lot more sense.

Nice bit of continuity with Sam and Jack and the battle with the 'Hammond' and hataks over the Icarus planet. The "Hello, I'm Daniel Jackson...." tutorials were a great idea. Brought Daniel into SGU doing what he does best, and a great way to give all those new to Stargate a little background story. :D

I loved Stargate's new 'Walter', Sgt Riley, manning the dialing computer and calling out the chevrons! :)

Watching Rush's and Young's expressions were fun. Rush is so sure of his abilities and Young always looks so skeptical of them. You could already see the tension between them from the few looks they exchanged between them.

Watching this episode again brought back memories of the last studio set tour the studio had in 2009 when I saw the Icarus base set and the 'Hammond', along with what was left of Atlantis. It was sad and interesting at the same time because the Icarus base was the old SG-1 gateroom totally revamped. You can still see the original layout on screen in this episode. What was the briefing room and 'Hammond's office' is Jack's new base of operations at the Pentagon for this episode.

Rush's 'bedroom' where the photo scene was filmed was actually built on the Atlantis set where the stargate used to stand. It was really strange to see this bit of a completely different set standing amongst the partially torn down dark Atlantis set. A new era in every way!

ZRFTS
November 1st, 2012, 07:44 PM
This episode established that this would be a different series from the moment you first started viewing it, unfortunately it sort of ruined much of the mistique for me; while it was nice for us to get our first glimpse at these characters, I would of preferred if they just let us look through flashbacks in a sort of "how did they get on Destiny" way. Seeing our characters on the Icarus base for a majority of the episode didn't do much in leaving a good first impression on me. As for the characters themselves, they felt to me at first like they were inspired by "Lost" except they were trying to add depth; to me "Rush" was Desmond/Locke, "Young" was Jack, "Eli" was Hurley, "Chloe" was Claire, "T.J." and "Wray" were Juliet and Sun respectively and "Scott" was Boone/Charlie. There wasn't much to them that grabbed me initially from the beginning to the explosive end and it would ultimately take a couple of episodes for them to drift from being "Lost"-derived to being their own independent characters.

min min light
November 2nd, 2012, 03:54 AM
I have a bad habit of half-watching things while doing other stuff, so this time through I'm making a point of actually looking at the screen and paying attention. So, things I didn't catch before:

- Rush's expression when he realizes where they are. Everyone else is freaking out and he's the Cheshire Cat.

- Eli when Rush starts erasing the white board: "Save! Save!" I laughed out loud. I have had the same instinct while drawing on paper. "That's not right, I'd better hit the undo button ... oh wait."

I love that Eli's reactions are what I think mine would be. (Minus the initial horrific panic attack.) If I were suddenly beamed up to a spaceship it would be the best thing ever.


As for the characters themselves, they felt to me at first like they were inspired by "Lost" except they were trying to add depth

I think SGU and Lost (and most other shows) just use the same template. The funny one, the pretty one, the smart one, the control freak ...

Lieutenant Sparrow
November 3rd, 2012, 04:10 AM
Quite the frantic start. With everyone being tossed out of the gate. Colonel Young being tossed the furthest.

I remember how shocked I was to see RDA had gotten so old and fat.

Putting a top secret problem into a game for someone to crack is pretty cool.

Beaming Eli aboard the Hammond was funny. It has happened a couple of times throughout Stargate. But that was one of the best ones.

An idiots guide to the Stargate. Brought to you by Daniel Jackson. Nice.

I don't like the look of the Destiny. It's way too messy.

From the get go we know this is going to be a darker more grown up show. First with the sex scene and then with Rush grieving over his wife.

Those Ha'taks firing at the Hammond. Nice. And the Death Gliders flying out of them. Nice. I still don't understand why the Hammond didn't have Asgard weapons. Plot device I suppose.

The planet exploding looked very cool.

And I'm guessing part 1 ended when Sam said where did they go?

min min light
November 3rd, 2012, 04:45 AM
I think it was just the way they lit RDA, with a full-on bright light. Nobody over thirty would look great lit that way, let alone someone in their fifties. Too bad they didn't make it a rainy day so there could be some mitigating shadows.

Lieutenant Sparrow
November 3rd, 2012, 05:50 AM
Yeah I suppose so.

Retirement doesn't help either I guess haha.

garhkal
November 3rd, 2012, 02:41 PM
Actually isn't he in his 60s??

min min light
November 3rd, 2012, 07:39 PM
I don't really know, I was just guessing.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
November 5th, 2012, 07:49 AM
RDA will be 63 in January, 2013.

Seaboe

garhkal
November 5th, 2012, 09:06 PM
Anderson is that old, i think he was on about the Oneill character.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
November 6th, 2012, 08:06 AM
I'm reasonably certain the character is also over 60. Without opening up the can of worms that is canon, he should be about 61. Thus when this was filmed, he'd've been 58 or so.

Seaboe

Don Pantaloons
November 8th, 2012, 04:04 PM
To me, he didn't look old as much as he looked like he had an allergic reaction to a bee sting. :)

My first time watching this. I enjoyed it. I think the flashbacks worked well. As far as the camera work, it didn't bother me, and I generally dislike the "shaky-cam" style. Don't know enough about the characters yet to form an opinion.

garhkal
November 10th, 2012, 01:07 PM
I wonder if the 'shakey cam' thing was done as some subtle hint that maybe the camera man was not there, but it was a camera or two on some soldier in the backround...

jelgate
November 11th, 2012, 05:10 PM
I'm so excited to finally to be on SGU. Despite it being the shortest it is also my favorite. I got into a lot of Rush vs Young arguements. Me thinks it will happen again. So lets start with the obvious of Rush caring only about himself when the Lucian Alliance attacked. He claimed that the reason they could not dial Earth was the danger of energy translating through the Stargate and harm Earth. That is a valid concern but as O'Neill pointed out if that was a concern they could have easily dialed an unpopulated planet. But instead Rush dialed a unknown address with potential dangers and risking 80 people lives to provoke his curiousity. Do not get me wrong. I do like Rush but lets not pretend he did it for anyone but himself. The part 1 is told primarly in flashbacks. If you consider where the episode ends not much happens on Destiny and most of the story is told in flashbacks. This is a common storytelling technique but I think it was a bad idea to use it on the series premiere. Besides that I loved the whole destruction of Icarus base. It had a nice interaction of action and character moments. I thought their was specfic devotation to Young and TJ. Of course not everyone got enough time (ie Greer) but that is to be expected with the premiere. But it was still good and keeps me entertained

min min light
November 11th, 2012, 09:32 PM
He claimed that the reason they could not dial Earth was the danger of energy translating through the Stargate and harm Earth. That is a valid concern but as O'Neill pointed out if that was a concern they could have easily dialed an unpopulated planet.

I have to admit though, I understand why - curiousity would have gotten the better of me too.

jelgate
November 11th, 2012, 09:34 PM
I don't. Its crazy selfish to risk 80 people's lives just for you own selfish curiousity

ZRFTS
November 11th, 2012, 09:45 PM
There's also the issue of whether or not they'll find a planet like that again if they do blow it up.

Matter of fact, they should of really had the gate on a separate power suppl; just so the ships firing on the planet don't make it unstable (when the gate is powered) to the point of blowing up. That way they could of still had the gate but at the same time, this would of been a really short series.

min min light
November 11th, 2012, 09:48 PM
I'm not saying it wouldn't have been crazy and selfish and wrong, I'm just saying I understand it.

jelgate
November 11th, 2012, 10:02 PM
I can't understand why anyone would risk that many lives with the unknown perils that were out there. Were are your ethics? Its just wrong

min min light
November 12th, 2012, 02:39 AM
I'm not actually defending myself here or saying I condone it, I'm just saying I understand it. Would I understand someone who (say) robbed a liquor store or committed murder or cheated on an exam or a million other crimes and misdemeanors? No. There are actions I will never understand, and I'm glad of it. But standing in front of the answer to a mystery that's tortured you for years and in the split second that you have to make a decision, making the wrong choice ... I get that.

jelgate
November 12th, 2012, 05:38 AM
I never was suggesting you would support such a situation. I can not comprehend a scientist risking so many lives for his own curiousity

Matt G
November 12th, 2012, 03:20 PM
Some people see their own potential greatness as more important than the welfare of others. Particularly in S1, Rush struck me as one of those guys.

garhkal
November 19th, 2012, 02:37 PM
I never was suggesting you would support such a situation. I can not comprehend a scientist risking so many lives for his own curiousity

RL is filled with many instances of someone's curiosity costing lives... So why not in a show?

jelgate
November 19th, 2012, 02:41 PM
RL is filled with many instances of someone's curiosity costing lives... So why not in a show?

Never claimed it wasn't. Does not make it anymore right

Trig
December 19th, 2012, 05:37 AM
What he did was wrong yeah but given what we know about his reasons from later shows its pretty clear why he did it, heat of the moment and not wanting to waste time having to find another planet, being pulled from the project etc...

jelgate
December 19th, 2012, 08:15 AM
I never claimed to not know the reasons behind Rush was selfish. It still is wrong to play with the lives of 80 people

Trig
December 19th, 2012, 02:17 PM
Yup, good job its just a TV show and people don't do that sort of thing irl ;)

Cluas
February 26th, 2013, 02:52 PM
I was totally overwhelmed by the greatness of this show.
Wow.
Great actors and a great story. And awesome special effects.
Loved it. Hope they can keep up the pace...
I agree that Rush was acting very selfish and illogical, but as he said, it was their only chance ever, to get the ninth chevron locked. He took the fate of 80 people in his hands, and had to live with it.
:cool:

Krisz
February 26th, 2013, 08:53 PM
To me Rush really didn't care about the others, that smirk as he watched the confused mass of humanity from the gateroom balcony was all I needed to see that he was where he wanted to be, the others would just have to accept the results of his selfish wilful decision to dial the ninth chevron address. That smirk moment summed Rush up perfectly. What he did was wrong, it was interesting to watch how he went about justifying why he stranded 80 people on being faced with their fear and justifiable outrage.

His constant disappearances and dismissive attitude to the others really showed how little regard he had for what he did to them, he just wanted to focus on what he came for and the others could help or die.

Glad to see another person who is wowed by this show, you'll enjoy the ride on Destiny I'm sure Cluas. :)

Cluas
February 27th, 2013, 01:01 AM
Thanks, I liked it so much that I changed my avatar :o

LtColCarter
March 26th, 2013, 11:29 AM
Starting a rewatch of SGU. I honestly didn't care for the show until it started to change in the 2nd half of the 1st season. However, I am enjoying this episode.

jeri
April 2nd, 2013, 08:44 PM
Starting a rewatch of SGU. I honestly didn't care for the show until it started to change in the 2nd half of the 1st season. However, I am enjoying this episode.

Good for you. If you watch several episodes at a time, I think it clarifies a lot and flows so much more.

Also I think many folks need to think of the show as it's own, not a continuation of the other two. It was never meant to be more of the same.

LtColCarter
April 3rd, 2013, 07:49 AM
Good for you. If you watch several episodes at a time, I think it clarifies a lot and flows so much more.

Also I think many folks need to think of the show as it's own, not a continuation of the other two. It was ever meant to be more of the same.

Yes, you're right. Watching several shows in one sitting helps a lot. I think one of the things the show suffered from was pacing. However, when you watch three or four episodes at once, it helps with the pacing or flow of plot.

min min light
April 3rd, 2013, 05:12 PM
I think it makes a huge difference being able to watch something at your own pace instead of waiting weeks (months, years) for the next episode. All the annoying tricks that have to be used on a TV show don't matter so much anymore - things like cliffhangers, slow pacing so as to have 22 episodes' worth of material, retool/course-correction efforts that usually don't kick in for months in real time (and by then the audience has wandered off and it's too late), and of course the absence of commercials already improves things considerably.

Personally I wish that this was the future of TV: entire seasons we could watch at our own pace.

jeri
April 3rd, 2013, 10:12 PM
Personally I wish that this was the future of TV: entire seasons we could watch at our own pace.
Yes, I've done that a lot, watch an entire show at my leisure. I do prefer it, if it's possible. I am so busy I don't get much time for real time viewing, and then the DVR gets too full. So on to other means when I can.

Trig
April 4th, 2013, 04:11 AM
Indeed, imagine if there were a company out there that could finance a third season and give you two ways of watching it.
Lower res with adverts for free, or HQ without ads, for a season/monthly fee.
And most importantly a single worldwide release date, none of this delayed release where one part of the globe gets it before another, this would IMHO cut down piracy from the get go..

IMHO this is where TV needs to go, with the internet these days and all the reality TV crap we need a decent Net-TV service that doesnt care where you log in as long as you have a valid subscription you can watch what you want.
The service provider would get money from the worldwide sources and have ratings that reflect as such, none of this Neilsen crap and those of us that want TV that is better than the "Appeals to the lowest common denominator" crap we get because its cheap and easy to produce, everyones a winner...

jeri
April 4th, 2013, 08:31 AM
I think that's where it is going and has to go, Trig. We are already seeing programs being produced solely for the web. We are in the beginning of a huge transition in the way entertainment is produced, marketed, and presented.

I think most people who get into television and film production do it for the love and art, not so much for the money. The ones who have truly creative impulses anyway. It's amazing how many independent film makers are out there, so many films produced every year, that we never get to see, unless you look for them. These are the folks who are changing the way they market their productions, it's the only way they can compete.

And this is where we turn to find worthwhile entertainment, to the web. Where is the interesting, thought provoking stuff? Mostly not in theaters or TV. The reality shows just get more stupid all the time, how long until it's a burn out? Maybe never, there's always those who love that junk. But that junk is driving alternative viewing, those of us searching for substance.

Trig
April 5th, 2013, 01:37 AM
I've been saying as much for years on here and elsewhere for longer, if only I'd had a decent lottery win :lol:

Pym
April 13th, 2013, 05:24 PM
I had seen a few episodes on TV and didnt think this show was top myliking. I bought season one yesterday when it was on special and am really glad I did. I loved the first episode.
Definetly has a different feel and atmosphere to Stargate , but i really like it.
Think Rush is a really good character , although I feel a bit sad for him, dont really think he wants to be the one everyone hates ,and itdoes upset him some times. Also like the fact it is not a totally military controlled programme.
Dont know what to think about the colonel just yet but think I will end up liking him.
The flash backs do get annoying.
I" watched the hole pilot in one episode so will write on the next thread.

Krisz
April 14th, 2013, 01:38 PM
I had seen a few episodes on TV and didnt think this show was top myliking. I bought season one yesterday when it was on special and am really glad I did. I loved the first episode.
Definetly has a different feel and atmosphere to Stargate , but i really like it.
Think Rush is a really good character , although I feel a bit sad for him, dont really think he wants to be the one everyone hates ,and itdoes upset him some times. Also like the fact it is not a totally military controlled programme.
Dont know what to think about the colonel just yet but think I will end up liking him.
The flash backs do get annoying.
I" watched the hole pilot in one episode so will write on the next thread.

Glad to see you are giving it another go and finding you enjoy it. It's been interesting to see that people have decided to give it a go and find that it's not that bad if watched without any preconceptions. I found the flashbacks to be very confusing the first time I saw the pilot as it was such a different style of storytelling from everything that had gone before on Stargate. On the second viewing on DVD and all 3 parts of Air together I found it wasn't so bad and I could see what they were doing so it wasn't as annoying.

Oh yes, love or hate characters, nothing is black or white here as I found. I've liked Young as a character from the beginning and liked watching his reactions to Rush. They played well off eachother and gave some great moments over the series.

Baron Of Hell
September 13th, 2013, 01:59 AM
Rewatching this show now. Loved it the first time through. I thought this opening episode really set the tone of show. The look, the acting, the set design were all great. The ships looked better than they did on SG1 and SGA. I guess that might be from better tech, faster computers and the like. Or might just be cheaper to do special effects when this show was done.

losernerdfriend
October 5th, 2014, 09:14 PM
Just finished this episode. I've never actually seen SGU before. (I know.. hate me..) It was pretty interesting.. I'll be interested to see where the next episode takes them. I like the idea so far.

My fav character right now is Eli. Rush is getting on my nerves because I can't figure out his plan yet.. And I don't like Scott right now. I'm sure he gets better, but he was super aggravating to me.

Baron Of Hell
October 5th, 2014, 09:28 PM
I don't think Scott changes much, but you might have a different view.

losernerdfriend
October 5th, 2014, 09:42 PM
Hopefully.. I just don't like his indecisiveness. Something about it just really annoyed me. >.<

Figured it was about time I gave this series a shot tho.. so trying not to make any quick judgements. :)

garhkal
October 6th, 2014, 12:15 PM
If you think rush gets on nerves now, just you wait!!

losernerdfriend
October 6th, 2014, 12:25 PM
If you think rush gets on nerves now, just you wait!!

Great... :/

Krisz
October 7th, 2014, 06:49 PM
It's all part of the show, getting to know the characters. At this point you make one decision about a person and then who knows! That was the joy of watching this show.

I hope you stick with it, it is worth it, in my view anyway. Also interested in seeing what someone who has never seen SGU before thinks of it. :)

Trig
October 8th, 2014, 08:34 AM
Rush softens after a while, stick with it though, S2 is loads better than S1, especially the back end of, just before they cancelled it :rolleyes:

losernerdfriend
October 8th, 2014, 09:00 AM
I've heard it's good. I just never tried it.. I was super mad at Syfy by that point in time so I kinda boycotted them and their programming. Haha.

@Krisz I'm gonna try and a stick with it and I'll def keep up commentary ep for ep so you can follow along as this SGU newbie watches it for the first time. :)

@Trig I'm sure he gets better most shows start like that. It's just frustrating. Haha. And I've heard season 2 gets a lot better than season 1 from multiple people so I'm excited.

Trig
October 9th, 2014, 03:18 AM
Ha, yeah supermad at Syfy, think theres a lot of people out there with that mindset, I havent watched SyFy since, regardless of what they show, hell they could turn into X-Art.com TV for all I care and I still wouldnt watch it..

jeri
October 16th, 2014, 04:36 PM
I often wonder if people liked season 2 more because they grew to understand the characters by that time. I thought season 1 had some excellent episodes and some not so good, to be expected. But they set up a different theme for this Stargate adventure that I welcomed.

jeri
October 16th, 2014, 04:45 PM
Just finished this episode. I've never actually seen SGU before. (I know.. hate me..) It was pretty interesting.. I'll be interested to see where the next episode takes them. I like the idea so far.

My fav character right now is Eli. Rush is getting on my nerves because I can't figure out his plan yet.. And I don't like Scott right now. I'm sure he gets better, but he was super aggravating to me.

Actually, Eli annoyed me from the start. Ha! Scott does change gradually for the better. Rush intrigued me from the start, as did Young. Right away we see they are gonna clash. But when Rush cries over a photo in his quarters, you know he's gonna crack sooner or later. And one of the first scenes with Young on Icaris, he is mocking Rush, which I thought was a dead give away that he's got some issues of his own, a commander shouldn't be so unprofessional in the so called elite Stargate program. Aren't they supposed to all be the cream of the crop just by induction into this program? Let the games begin.

CarrieAnn
January 10th, 2015, 07:06 AM
Hello. I hope someone sees my post as I've no idea where to start. I never saw Stargate Universe when it came out, I only started watching it the other day as it is now on Netflix.

Its brilliant, more complex like the newest Battlestar Galactica but not as confusing as that.

Just wanting someone to talk to about it as most people aren't interested as it finished so long ago :)

Artemis-Neith
January 10th, 2015, 09:28 AM
Hello. I hope someone sees my post as I've no idea where to start. I never saw Stargate Universe when it came out, I only started watching it the other day as it is now on Netflix.

Its brilliant, more complex like the newest Battlestar Galactica but not as confusing as that.

Just wanting someone to talk to about it as most people aren't interested as it finished so long ago :)

Welcome here and to SGU!
Don't let the fact that most fans have moved on to other shows stop you to post your opinion on what you've seen. Post away about everything you want to. During the last years there were always new folks here, and some of them posted their thoughts and got response or answers, so it won't cost you anything but a bit of time spending on y<our computer.

CarrieAnn
January 10th, 2015, 11:13 AM
Welcome here and to SGU!
Don't let the fact that most fans have moved on to other shows stop you to post your opinion on what you've seen. Post away about everything you want to. During the last years there were always new folks here, and some of them posted their thoughts and got response or answers, so it won't cost you anything but a bit of time spending on y<our computer.

Thanks very much :) Lately I've found Facebook disappointing with fan groups for shows. This type of fan forum is better IMO.

I have always loved Robert Carlyle, so him being in SGU was a big draw for me. Brilliant actor.

Artemis-Neith
January 10th, 2015, 01:04 PM
Thanks very much :) Lately I've found Facebook disappointing with fan groups for shows. This type of fan forum is better IMO.

I have always loved Robert Carlyle, so him being in SGU was a big draw for me. Brilliant actor.

Indeed, he is. Actually he was the reason I started watching the show, too. I saw somebody of my friends on twitter rant about the show, and she mentioned that he is the lead actor. First ,I thought, na won't look, but then I remembered the name from movies I've seen, thought okay, let's try this, and decided to give it a chance. I was hooked in the first five minutes, and am still here. :)

CarrieAnn
January 10th, 2015, 02:35 PM
Yes, I'm watching the freaky episode Time now, while eating a sandwich. Which wasn't a good idea...

min min light
January 10th, 2015, 02:41 PM
I didn't know it was back on Netflix - great! I think I'm still subscribed to most of the SGU threads, so post away and I'll jump in when I can. :)

Artemis-Neith
January 10th, 2015, 02:42 PM
Yes, I'm watching the freaky episode Time now, while eating a sandwich. Which wasn't a good idea...

Though most people here have seen it, but spoiler rules say you talk about future episodes in their threads, so if you want to talk about "Time" go in that folder, please! ;)

CarrieAnn
January 10th, 2015, 02:43 PM
I don't want to talk about it really :/

CarrieAnn
January 10th, 2015, 02:48 PM
Sorry, just realised what thread I'm on. I'm still confused by this forum. I've got notifications saying I've got messages but can't seem to see them. I'll get used to it... :confused:

Artemis-Neith
January 10th, 2015, 03:10 PM
Sorry, just realised what thread I'm on. I'm still confused by this forum. I've got notifications saying I've got messages but can't seem to see them. I'll get used to it... :confused:

I'm sure it's not a problem. Everybody needs time to get used to new places. ;)

You may have got a "Notification" from GW. Go to "My Controls" in the menu of this page and klick on that bar. Then you get a page with a field "Latest Reputation Received" (there are other fields as well) and there should be a note from me and maybe from others too.
If you klick on that small asterisk on the left bottom side of each members post, you give them reputation for their posts, and if other people do this for you you get such a note. That's all. :)

CarrieAnn
January 10th, 2015, 03:21 PM
Thanks, I'll find my way round eventually...