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April 26th, 2004, 01:54 PM
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Pressed by the government to acquire new technologies, SG-1 is led to a world inhabited by a seemingly primative race. When Apophis arrives, SG-1 ambush him with disasterous consequences.

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Elwe Singollo
June 9th, 2004, 11:34 AM
Could the Nox revive something/someone after a long perod of time?

KorbenDirewolf
June 9th, 2004, 12:02 PM
Who knows what the Nox can do? Its never said in this episode exactly how thier Ritual of Life works

bcmilco
June 9th, 2004, 12:57 PM
But they did say they couldn't get, Nefreyu (sp) (the little boy ;)) to the city before it was too late and he was permanently dead, so their must be a time limit on their powers.

SG_Mike
June 9th, 2004, 01:00 PM
I think the Nox as a whole should have been more explored in the series. I want to see what the City is like!!

Mr Prophet
June 9th, 2004, 01:19 PM
I guess they could only bring someone back if they were sorta dead. If they were mostly dead or all dead the only thing to do would be to go through their clothes and look for loose change.

Elwe Singollo
June 9th, 2004, 04:45 PM
Although it is a stretch, maybe they said to hurry because they knew they would be found by Apophis or something. But i still agree that maybe if someone stays dead too long, they would stay dead period.

Neon Rider
June 13th, 2004, 03:44 PM
I agree I would have loved to see the Nox vessel- it would have been neat to see though. I liked the episode even though it aired on CTV (canada) a long time ago.

SGSlugger
June 13th, 2004, 07:17 PM
I was kinda hoping for a visit from them in Season 7, since we were after all searching for the Lost City. I'd like to have a look inside their technology and see what tricks they have up their sleeves.

Newbie
June 13th, 2004, 10:14 PM
I don't think Nox have vessels...probably some kinda of transporters ;)... and again thier technology could be only natular..with no technology...and i'd like to think so...that is why they are superior...and one of the 4 races...they are kinda like Ancients...

Anubis
June 14th, 2004, 03:55 AM
My guess is the Nox would have a incredibly advanced ship that is invisible like their city. It would make sense! :)

SGSlugger
June 14th, 2004, 07:05 AM
They've kinda drifted to the back of the room along with Luke, the Ree'tu, and others. They had so much potential for some interesting storylines. Perhaps we will get a message from them in season 8.

KorbenDirewolf
June 14th, 2004, 10:47 AM
I don't think Nox have vessels...probably some kinda of transporters ;)... and again thier technology could be only natular..with no technology...and i'd like to think so...that is why they are superior...and one of the 4 races...they are kinda like Ancients...

There was that huge floating city (or was it a ship?) in the sky at the end of the episode.. So if that's no technology even the Tauri must be pretty advanced. The Nox did seem to have some knowledge of the stargate and probably most of what they did was technology-based in some manner. After all, any suffiently advanced technology would appear to be magic to the uninformed.

Newbie
June 15th, 2004, 11:10 PM
well they heal with no deivces...they cloack with no devices...may be they can fly (?) without any devices?

Anubis
June 15th, 2004, 11:16 PM
Maybe well get a call from the Nox in season eight that they need their help. Perhaps the Gou'ald have discovered their planet and have found secrets to their technologies

KorbenDirewolf
June 15th, 2004, 11:25 PM
At least, they don't seem to use anything we would recognize as devices. Its hard to tell with aliens. could be they have another small set of hands operating stuff under their clothes. ;)

SeaBee
June 19th, 2004, 10:21 AM
Definitely my fav. ep of season 1, and possibly the series. I found the whole Nox thing fascinating.

The fact that I think that Lya is the best female in the show has nothing to do with it, honest! :D ;)

Mmmmmm, Lya! :D :o ;)

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June 19th, 2004, 10:24 AM
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I have to say that the floating hidden city was great. It kinda looks simular to the Lost City

Elwe Singollo
June 19th, 2004, 10:25 AM
Yah, Lya is one of my favorite characters!!! I totally loved this episode as well, although the Dad of the Nox (forgot his name) was pretty annoying...

anhtuan
June 27th, 2004, 02:28 AM
I think that the nox are very advance and they have a hole different point of view because of the no fighting policy(protecting both tauri and Aphofis) I think they could
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be like the Tollan as they were sure that the Goa'uld can't harm them because of their advanced tehnology - this lead them to destruction :(

Anubis
June 27th, 2004, 04:43 AM
Good old Nox. The old 'dad' guy was weird but understandable

Bagpuss
June 28th, 2004, 01:04 PM
I have to say,I really liked the Nox ! They seemed very content with their lifestyle,and I have to love people who can resurrect the newly dead,vanish all weapons and hide the Stargate. Neat work.Ultimate Pacifism,really,IMO.
I have no idea how they do it,but I just needed to know they can use their "Powers". ;)

Fifth
July 9th, 2004, 07:39 PM
The system lords would be afraid of the Nox. They are afraid of anything they can't see/control. Just like the episode with the invisible aliens invading SG-1. But the Nox can just go through anything they want to, just like the iris, so capturing them could be hard.

DownFallAngel
July 9th, 2004, 07:42 PM
The Re'tu are the aliens you are thinking of.

Selmak
July 10th, 2004, 06:21 PM
The Nox still remain very mysterious... we know they are pacifist that have the ability to make things invisible and revive people from the dead. There floating city may indicate a connection to the Ancients(Atlantis).

AgentX
July 10th, 2004, 06:23 PM
At first I was lukewarm on The Nox, it was okay but nothing special. But in retrospect it was very good in setting up The Nox has a mysterious and powerful race.

aAnubiSs
July 11th, 2004, 07:06 AM
I liked this episode the second i saw it. And now, 7 year later, it's one of my all time favs.

Anubis
July 11th, 2004, 07:33 AM
I think the nox was great. One for apophis and two for them hiding cities

Selmak
July 15th, 2004, 04:22 PM
The Nox have the ability to bring people back from the dead and the Ancients have the ability to heal people. That may indicate another connection between thee 2 races.

aAnubiSs
July 15th, 2004, 04:56 PM
This episode both showed my favorite race (Nox) and favorite person (Lya). One of my favorite eps of all TV-shows in the history.

Ancient
July 17th, 2004, 07:35 PM
If s8 is to be the last sg1 i believe they will have to return or it will leave too many unanswered questions....and when are we gonna see the furlings I want answers. .
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Selmak
July 17th, 2004, 10:52 PM
I hope we see them... but I doubt it.

Elwe Singollo
July 18th, 2004, 06:07 AM
Maybe Lya, or one of the others will come and make Earth invisible for some unknown reason in the future :)

Mikedphilly
July 19th, 2004, 07:24 PM
The first season box set I have, list this episode as #12. (on volume 3)

Anyone know why?

Selmak
July 19th, 2004, 07:59 PM
What number is the real episode #12 then?

Selmak
July 19th, 2004, 08:00 PM
Maybe it is just a goof or it is the way the DVD's are categorized.

Mikedphilly
July 20th, 2004, 06:45 AM
What number is the real episode #12 then?

This is how my DVD's are list.


Volume 1
#1 - CHILDREN OF THE GODS
#2 - THE ENEMY WITHIN
#3 - EMANCIPATION

Volume 2
#4 - THE BROCA DIVIDE
#5 - THE FIRST COMMANDMENT
#6 - COLD LAZARUS
#7 - BRIEF CANDLE
#8 - THOR'S HAMMER

Volume 3
#9 - THE TORMENT OF TANTALUS
#10 - BLOODLINES
#11 - FIRE AND WATER
#12 - THE NOX
#13 - HATHOR

Volume 4
#14 - SINGULARITY
#15 - COR-AI
#16 - ENIGMA
#17 - SOLITUDES

Volume 5
#18 - TIN MAN
#19 - THERE BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD
#20 - POLITICS
#21 - WITHIN THE SERPENT'S GRASP

Mikedphilly
July 20th, 2004, 07:00 AM
Is anyone DVD's like this?

aAnubiSs
July 20th, 2004, 07:17 AM
All DVD:s are like that I believe.

Selmak
July 26th, 2004, 04:50 PM
So were those 2 switched or something?

zats
August 22nd, 2004, 07:14 PM
I think the Nox as a whole should have been more explored in the series. I want to see what the City is like!!

You've seen Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back? Think Cloud City. Minus, of course, the stormtroopers clanking all over the place.

Following that train of thought...can you imagine Han Solo meeting Jack? All that sarcasm--eek!

Replicarter
September 4th, 2004, 06:56 AM
I realy like this episode, id rather they were not THAT good, and use there realy cool powers to kill some Goa'uld, but still very good. BTW, was that kid him or her?

Bagpuss
September 18th, 2004, 11:16 AM
Nafrayu ? :) Male .
(Jack says "I was trying to protect the boy" and Antheaus (sp ?) replies "You protect his body after poisoning his mind ?")

Uncle Dick
September 18th, 2004, 10:06 PM
be like the Tollan as they were sure that the Goa'uld can't harm them because of their advanced tehnology - this lead them to destruction :(
The Nox never struck me as overconfident and arrogant in the way that the advanced humans of Tollana were. Overexposure of the Nox could ruin the mystery that they established in the original episode. The intervention of Lya in "Pretense" was about as far as I'd care to see the Nox concept go.

Frankly, given the current state of TPTB, I'm not sure I'd trust a new episode based on the Nox to remain true to the spirit of the characters.

Lord Zedd
September 19th, 2004, 05:35 AM
I liked the episode and hope to see the Nox again in S8 or S9

zats
September 19th, 2004, 06:46 PM
I LOVE this episode. Seriously. Fortunately, so does my dad, so this is the one I can always stay up late to watch. I didn't see it until I got Season I on DVD--and now it's likely my most-watched (aside from "Hathor").

What's good:

a. The Nox themselves. I love those people. I'm going to go off on a total tangent here (if you don't want to read it, skip to the next paragraph), but I know some people have commented on how the Nox's overconfidence will come back to bite them, shades of the Tollan. There are a couple reasons that I don't think this'll happen (namely, I'd be really mad; therefore, such a travesty shall not occur), but mainly, I think that the Nox are so far advanced that it won't happen. Stemming from this is a minor debate I had with my biology teacher; she said that organisms like mosses and lichens were really primitive, as plants go at least, because they weren't very advanced at all. I said that mosses and lichens were the most advanced, because they didn't need a lot to thrive. The Tollan had super-de-duper cities with lots of glass and chrome. The Nox live incredibly simply, which is why SG-1 thought they were so primitive.

My point being that the Nox don't need a lot of material things to be miles ahead of everyone else; they simply don't need the stuff; they don't want it.

b. Awesome hair. Although hay fever would be murder--you'd never be able to get away from it.

c. Location. I like the Pacific northwest--cool, wet, rainy. End of story.

d. Apophis. Evil. Grrr. I smile!

e. Lya. I was SOO happy they brought her back for "Engima" and "Pretense" (at any rate, I think it was "Pretense").

f. Overall character interaction.

What wasn't good:

a. We can never go back!

FINIS

finally. :p

Daniel's_twin
October 24th, 2004, 12:20 PM
I really liked this episode also. Nearly all members of SG-1 killed, the first sign of political intervention into the SGC, and our first meet-up with one of the Four Races of the Great Alliance. What I don't get is why so many people seem to want to put down the Nox for deciding to live in peaceful harmony with the planet they're on instead of going around the galaxy showing off just how powerful they are. Make no mistake, they are powerful. They just choose not to show it.

It's too bad we didn't listen to them, or we might have been able to interact on a bigger level instead of just seeing them two more times after this.

I have a question. When the Nox make things disappear, do they also become somewhat intangible or what? It's been a while since I've seen this episode, but it looked like O'neill shot his arrow at Apophis, and when the arrow was about to hit him, he disappeared, not giving Apophis enough time to jump to the side or anything like that. Theories? :cool:

jckfan55
October 24th, 2004, 01:51 PM
b. Awesome hair. Although hay fever would be murder--you'd never be able to get away from it.


:p

The hair reminded me of salad fixings. Love the hay fever comment! So true. :)

zats
October 29th, 2004, 02:41 PM
The hair reminded me of salad fixings. Love the hay fever comment! So true. :)

You do realize that I'll never be able to eat salad again, right? RIGHT?

Daniel's_twin
October 29th, 2004, 03:15 PM
Why not? Just say, "the Nox's hair was not this green." Ok? Ok. :cool:

zats
October 29th, 2004, 05:17 PM
You're assuming that all salad is green, or for that matter, even involves lettuce. There's this sort of leafy thing my grandma makes that looks it was recently pulled from the florist's dumpter. Lots of wilty flowers. It looks terrible but actually doesn't taste too bad.

greytop
October 30th, 2004, 10:40 AM
I want to be invisible like the Nox can. That wold be :cool: .

lionel_pendergast_rocks
October 30th, 2004, 11:48 AM
i want another episode with the nox. maybe a time travel thing where the team goes back in time to find them with the other 3 members of the alliance. (go furlings) but thats not what this thread is about. i have to say that the nox are pretty cool, doing that invisible thing. at the end of the episode, was that a floating city or a ship?

Daniel's_twin
October 30th, 2004, 01:46 PM
Think that was a floating city, like in Star Wars: the Empire Strikes Back. :cool:

zats
October 30th, 2004, 01:48 PM
Maybe it was a city on a ship! The both of best worlds!

Lord Zedd
November 11th, 2004, 08:22 AM
What was that flying bug like??Could it be the same from Bane?

Matt G
November 11th, 2004, 07:02 PM
If memory serves(haven't seen 'The Nox' for ages) the thing in the Nox wasn't a bug. It reminded me more of a peradactyl.

greytop
November 11th, 2004, 07:23 PM
If memory serves(haven't seen 'The Nox' for ages) the thing in the Nox wasn't a bug. It reminded me more of a peradactyl.
I don't know if it was a peradactyl but it was a type of rare bird that the Nox are protecting.

zats
December 3rd, 2004, 06:53 PM
I want to be invisible like the Nox can. That wold be :cool: .

Could wreak total havoc at school...the stuff of my dreams!

Daniel's_twin
December 3rd, 2004, 07:24 PM
Which is why only the pacafists can become invisible in this series. Not counting in the cloaking in the ep with the rogue NID. :cool:

Erik Pasternak
December 3rd, 2004, 10:40 PM
Which is why only the pacafists can become invisible in this series. Not counting in the cloaking in the ep with the rogue NID. :cool: If it helps, Goa'uld ships can become invisible. And Nirtii and the Ashrak from "Allegiance" can become invisible too.

greytop
December 4th, 2004, 10:21 AM
Which is why only the pacafists can become invisible in this series. Not counting in the cloaking in the ep with the rogue NID. :cool:

If it helps, Goa'uld ships can become invisible. And Nirtii and the Ashrak from "Allegiance" can bedcome invisible too.That it true for the Goa'uld but they have devices to help them become inivisible. IMO, the Nox use their minds to become invisible and make other things do the same.

zats
December 4th, 2004, 08:03 PM
Which is why only the pacafists can become invisible in this series. Not counting in the cloaking in the ep with the rogue NID. :cool:

a. Ah! Don't quash my evil ambitions. Not cool. Totally against the laws of the universe. :eek: Very not cool.

b. As several people have been kind enough to point out, the goa'uld can become invisible. Hathor, Nirrti, entire ships, not to mention the Ree'tou...

[B]c. Who said my intentions are unpacifistic (which is now a word, if it wasn't before) in the first place? A little...disruptive...maybe :rolleyes: , but not violent.

d. And? So? But? Therefore? I'll find a way around it anyway. :D

fair_nymph
January 22nd, 2005, 06:19 PM
I LOVE this episode. I am watching the first season for the first time and this has been my favourite episode so far.

The Nox are great, I'm happy to hear I will see more of them...

somme
January 23rd, 2005, 01:01 AM
Well we heard we'll be seeing more of them for like 4 years now, it's only ever been "maybes". So don't hold your breath. :(

I wanna see them though. Lya was great.

ShimmeringStar
January 30th, 2005, 06:49 AM
I really liked this episode also. Nearly all members of SG-1 killed, the first sign of political intervention into the SGC, and our first meet-up with one of the Four Races of the Great Alliance. What I don't get is why so many people seem to want to put down the Nox for deciding to live in peaceful harmony with the planet they're on instead of going around the galaxy showing off just how powerful they are. Make no mistake, they are powerful. They just choose not to show it.

It's too bad we didn't listen to them, or we might have been able to interact on a bigger level instead of just seeing them two more times after this.
It reminds me of the book/movie “Contact.” Where once again Earth society is told that they still have a long way to go until they are accepted by more advanced life forms.

ShimmeringStar
January 30th, 2005, 06:50 AM
It was interesting to hear in the episode where Sam mentions that they’d only visited 19 planets by this point (and this was the 8th episode). Loved the “Bad/Very Bad” routine that Daniel and Jack had in trying to describe Apophis to Lya and Anteaus. And the ep was the source of one of my favorite lines -- “The very young do not always do as they're told.” :)

meatspxNZ
February 5th, 2005, 09:30 AM
Hello.

In order to interact with these advanced races, perhaphs a new series of SG-1 can take place hundred of years into the future. Similar to the Star Trek franchise. Of course this would happen after the Jaffa have been freed and the Goa'uld destroyed :)

It is frustrating to have such knowledge just out of reach (similar to what is happening in Atlantis). Since a pattern has emerged of advanced Alien life thinking humans are not "ready", you would have to think that they are onto something with their decision making. Though it is perplexing why humans are stuck with trying to defend the universe, when there are many out there who could do a better job!

JackDaniels
February 7th, 2005, 09:49 AM
Hello.

In order to interact with these advanced races, perhaphs a new series of SG-1 can take place hundred of years into the future. Similar to the Star Trek franchise. Of course this would happen after the Jaffa have been freed and the Goa'uld destroyed :)

It is frustrating to have such knowledge just out of reach (similar to what is happening in Atlantis). Since a pattern has emerged of advanced Alien life thinking humans are not "ready", you would have to think that they are onto something with their decision making. Though it is perplexing why humans are stuck with trying to defend the universe, when there are many out there who could do a better job!

It is a nice idea that there would be a future of stargate, but I'm not sure how it would realistically work. The belief of many races during the first couple of series that humans were not ready for what was through the stargate in now proven innocuous. It was initially the Asquard, Nox and Tollan in particular that saw earth as 'primitive' or 'young' but with the Tollan now gone it is the Asguard who stil stand and throughout the years they have come to realise that though earth may not be as advanced as them, this is not always a bad thing. The other exception of course is the goa'uld, who of course think we are primitive and simply a little annoyance that should be crushed, but the fact that we beat their asses every other week only serves to prove that although we may not be as technologically advanced we know how to do them some serious damage.

The Nox referred to us as young, perhaps not because we were technologically inferior but becuase we looked to solve most problems with weapons and war. their perspective was different to others who simply saw us as inferior. to be, rather philosophically, the nox episode was a comment of human society, rather than human evolution.

Sha're
February 9th, 2005, 01:04 AM
Yes this is a great episode. The Nox are very cryptic and its excellent when they reveal their city at the end. SG1 thinking they need protection, only to discover that the Nox are far more advanced than they appear.

SmartFox
February 22nd, 2005, 09:21 AM
well they heal with no deivces...they cloack with no devices...may be they can fly (?) without any devices?


Just because you dont see the devices doesnt mean they dont exist. It just apears to be majic because we dont have thay powerful of technology. If you went back in time with any of modern day technology the people would treat you as a god or wizard or something on those lines.

PugGate
March 9th, 2005, 05:53 PM
The SGC's elite team gets taken out by a Goa'uld and a couple of Jaffa? Suuuuure.

If ya can't kill em, retreat till ya can.

SmartFox
March 9th, 2005, 06:34 PM
The SGC's elite team gets taken out by a Goa'uld and a couple of Jaffa? Suuuuure.

If ya can't kill em, retreat till ya can.
Actually the jaffa kill none of SG-1. Apophis kills Jack who is in the open then Sam jumps out stupidly and Apophis gets her, then Daniel mimics her, then Teal'c kills Shackle and attempts to kill Apophis several times and fails. So basically SG-1 died because of stupidity and emotions and a shield.

PugGate
March 9th, 2005, 06:47 PM
Fine, the Jaffa were just targets. At least Teal'c was the only one that didn't get hit. He shouldn't have gotten hit because he is an ex-first prime who is above being shot like a normal Jaffa.

irishsoul19
March 10th, 2005, 02:00 AM
well when the son dies they do say that it would take too long to take him to the others so I would say that there is some sort of limit to there capabilities.

Uber
April 13th, 2005, 02:28 PM
Alright...I hope someone can answer this question for me regarding the Goa'uld personal shield device.

Is it embedded into or worn with the hand (ribbon) device? I've never seen a Goa'uld use it without a ribbon device...

Do all ribbon devices now come with the personal shield that Apophis first used here?

jckfan55
April 13th, 2005, 04:25 PM
Actually the jaffa kill none of SG-1. Apophis kills Jack who is in the open then Sam jumps out stupidly and Apophis gets her, then Daniel mimics her, then Teal'c kills Shackle and attempts to kill Apophis several times and fails. So basically SG-1 died because of stupidity and emotions and a shield.
Well you know, they had to come up with a way to show off that nifty resurrection technique. :) Too bad they couldn't have written a way that didn't make SG1 look dopey.

Daniel's_twin
April 14th, 2005, 05:49 AM
Alright...I hope someone can answer this question for me regarding the Goa'uld personal shield device.

Is it embedded into or worn with the hand (ribbon) device? I've never seen a Goa'uld use it without a ribbon device...

Do all ribbon devices now come with the personal shield that Apophis first used here?

Looked like Osiris hadn't upgraded, but a lot of people might say that they just never showed it on-camera.

As for where it is located, it is definitely worn on the ribbon device. Looks like you touch that hooky-thing at the top and it's on. :cool:

Mr Prophet
April 14th, 2005, 07:19 AM
Looked like Osiris hadn't upgraded, but a lot of people might say that they just never showed it on-camera.

As for where it is located, it is definitely worn on the ribbon device. Looks like you touch that hooky-thing at the top and it's on. :cool:

I've tended to assume that the back of a ribbon device is a sort of universal remote control for other personal defence devices, ring transporters, panic alarms and the like.

twiggy
April 14th, 2005, 02:25 PM
I've tended to assume that the back of a ribbon device is a sort of universal remote control for other personal defence devices, ring transporters, panic alarms and the like.
exactly, they always touch something there, then something happens :P

sunstar
May 15th, 2005, 05:49 AM
I love the Nox. They are the best race.

I think it is great that they are so advanced but prefer to just live peacefully on their plant. I would love to be on of the Nox. Don’t they have the coolest hair, must be murder to brush, although I guess they don’t care about that.

I agree with ShimmeringStar “The very young do not always do as they're told.” Is definitely one of the best lines. It is by far the best line any of the advance races, have ever come with for saying, ‘your stupid so I’m not sharing’. and they where so polite about it as well

PugGate
May 16th, 2005, 04:42 PM
The Nox must not be that advence because they haven't invented shampoo or hair brushes yet

QuiGonJohn
June 5th, 2005, 07:50 AM
I liked this one a lot. Especially seeing Armin Shimmerman. The Nox are funny people, I like how they refer to us as young, (vs. primitive like the Tollan call us).

zats
June 29th, 2005, 04:23 PM
The "very young" business always reminds me of Yoda: "When nine hundred years old you reach, look as good you will not!"

Heru'urs_first_prime
August 4th, 2005, 08:37 AM
the Nox are wise!

zats
August 4th, 2005, 06:51 PM
As was Yoda. [ :cool: ]

.:Lemon:.
August 24th, 2005, 07:04 AM
I liked this epiosode, I think the Nox are an awesome race! I wish we could have seen more of them in the future seasons....ah well

Daniel's_twin
August 24th, 2005, 09:14 AM
Well, we might still have a *small* chance in future episodes. It's not like SG-1 has been cancelled yet. :cool:

.:Lemon:.
August 24th, 2005, 11:34 AM
Yep, fingers crossed :p

JoshuaJSlone
August 26th, 2005, 07:54 PM
I think this is the first episode which gave me a really big out-loud laugh, and confirmed that Daniel was my favorite character. A very simple piece, though.

O'NEILL: So Shak'l thinks we're unarmed, Apophis thinks he's invulnerable.
DANIEL: And they're right. I think I found a flaw in your plan.

Stricken
September 8th, 2005, 01:01 AM
The Nox took a nap after this! lol

walter_MacChevron
September 12th, 2005, 08:34 PM
Nice star trek guest star!!!! This episode was actually pretty good.....first encounter with apophis after pilot also i do believe

Daniel's_twin
September 13th, 2005, 03:57 PM
Indeed. :cool:

Metarock Sam
September 22nd, 2005, 02:42 PM
This also had the first appearance of Lya the only nox who has reappeard in later episodes (except clip shows.)

frawgz
September 22nd, 2005, 04:22 PM
With non-Gate interstellar travel at their disposal now, why doesn't the SGC have another go at talking to the Nox? It's been a while, and they are friendly folks.

Amanda Eros
September 22nd, 2005, 05:15 PM
I'm not sure if anyone else has asked this question or not, but I have been wondering this since I saw "The Nox" repeat. At the end of the episode in the vally below the Stargate was a large ship that was shown to SG1. Is it possible that this ship was an illusion, or was it actually there?

Another question that comes to mind is about the Alliance, now the Asgard were from Ida, the Furlings were from ???, the Alterren were from another galaxy, so were the Nox origionally from the Milkyway?

One more thing, being that the Alterrens basically created life in the Milkyway and in PG, do you think it is possible that their first attempts were the Asgard, Nox, and Furlings?

Myztic
September 22nd, 2005, 08:52 PM
The Nox are the best out of the races...wish there was more of them....

so many things to do....image them with earth + asguard

Crichton
September 22nd, 2005, 10:27 PM
Talk about a missed opportunity, don't you think it's about time a NEW alliance was made:
-Asgaard
-Taur'i
-Nox

cafine_us
September 23rd, 2005, 01:26 PM
I don't think we're anywhere near being advanced enough to be in a new alliance with the Asgard and Nox.

SeaBee
September 24th, 2005, 02:04 AM
The Nox must not be that advence because they haven't invented shampoo or hair brushes yet
Perhaps you could say that they are more advanced, because they do not feel the need to make themselves look pretty, but see the beauty that lies within. :D

frawgz
September 30th, 2005, 09:22 PM
I don't think it was so much a ship as an entire floating city. My reasoning is that the Nox apparently are an insular race and don't travel much. (Of course, there having been only one episode on them, I could be entirely wrong.) And yes, it was real. The Nox were trying to demonstrate to SG-1 that they weren't just simple mystics, but were actually quite advanced.

And I suppose the Nox were from the Milky Way. Neat.

I personally don't think that the other three races were Ancient creations because they aren't "human." People are generally referred to as the second evolution of humans, and look just like the Ancients, while the other races don't.



I'm not sure if anyone else has asked this question or not, but I have been wondering this since I saw "The Nox" repeat. At the end of the episode in the vally below the Stargate was a large ship that was shown to SG1. Is it possible that this ship was an illusion, or was it actually there?

Another question that comes to mind is about the Alliance, now the Asgard were from Ida, the Furlings were from ???, the Alterren were from another galaxy, so were the Nox origionally from the Milkyway?

One more thing, being that the Alterrens basically created life in the Milkyway and in PG, do you think it is possible that their first attempts were the Asgard, Nox, and Furlings?

StevetheWraith!
October 1st, 2005, 03:19 AM
The Nox must not be that advence because they haven't invented shampoo or hair brushes yet
Hehehe ditto that. I mean come on! The writers are actually trying to convince us that some forest fawns are as advanced, or more so, than the Ancients?! Sorry, I just don't buy it I mean the Ancients were super advanced and peaceful so why do the Nox live like pixies? :rolleyes:

Daniel's_twin
October 1st, 2005, 06:45 AM
It's possible that they were simply satisfied with their level of tech, and unlike the Ancients, might've harbored more of a thing for the natural. So they figured how to have the best of both worlds. :cool:

Jack's Angel
October 26th, 2005, 10:00 AM
Also like this episode espeshally wen Sam's lookin at the little boy and Jack ses 'no, u cant keep him' so cute!

Sylouette98
October 29th, 2005, 04:55 PM
Here's what I'm wondering...On my dvd (during this ep) Apophis doesn't have a voice track. Does anyone else have this problem? This is the only ep on the dvd that's like this.

Pharaoh Atem
January 31st, 2006, 06:38 PM
:nox: he he he love this episode to bad we haven't seen them since

with everything that has happen now would there still see the human race as young.

Daniel's_twin
February 1st, 2006, 09:06 AM
Yes. I don't think they thought we were young because we had inferior technology.:danielanime13: :cool:

greytop
February 1st, 2006, 12:44 PM
:nox: he he he love this episode to bad we haven't seen them since W haven't seen them as a group but Lya has been on since. (Enigma, Pretense)

HirogenGater
February 4th, 2006, 12:18 PM
W haven't seen them as a group but Lya has been on since. (Enigma, Pretense)

I hope we hear from them again.

Twinks22
February 12th, 2006, 04:32 AM
I think the Nox as a whole should have been more explored in the series. I want to see what the City is like!!



I agree we never go back to the nox planet! i mean they could be great allies against the ori!!

BlackBaron
February 12th, 2006, 04:44 AM
I agree we never go back to the nox planet! i mean they could be great allies against the ori!!

How so? They wouldn't do anything against the Ori. (But I could be wrong, maybe when they know that the Ancients are in danger then who knows)

Twinks22
February 12th, 2006, 04:57 AM
How so? They wouldn't do anything against the Ori. (But I could be wrong, maybe when they know that the Ancients are in danger then who knows)


your right there they probaly won't do anything but if they find them selves in danger they might use some super call weapon in that flying city remeber they are part of the ancient alliance:indeed:

BlackBaron
February 12th, 2006, 05:30 AM
your right there they probaly won't do anything but if they find them selves in danger they might use some super call weapon in that flying city remeber they are part of the ancient alliance:indeed:

So you think they have weapons? One would think that if they ever had weapons they would have destroyed them by now.

By the way, your signature is ugly! :(

andrelage
February 12th, 2006, 12:03 PM
i loved watchin this episode. it's a shame that the nox are still going to be pacifists even with the ori invading our galaxy. maybe they'll change their mind if they are attacked.

cafine_us
February 12th, 2006, 02:57 PM
I doubt the Nox will ever stop being pacifists. Their world has been attacked by the Goa'uld many times, and they just continued to use their powers of invisibility to defend themselves. The same will probably ring true for the Ori. If, in their advanced state, the priors can pierce the Nox technology, the pacifist race would probably not remember how to fight, and would simply be slaughtered.

Akai
February 12th, 2006, 04:26 PM
Anyone else notice that ALL the Jaffa in this episode had the gold "first prime" seal on their forehead? Does Aphophis just not trust anyone enough anymore to have one first prime, and he feels he has to have several? That wouldn't surprise me though, since both Teal'c and Bratac betrayed him.

DigiFluid
February 12th, 2006, 07:15 PM
Why is this episode listed as 107? On my Season 1 DVD boxset it's Episode 12 (14, if you count the Pilot as both first and second episodes, which the DVD set doesn't).

:confused:

Ascended Times.2
February 13th, 2006, 01:40 AM
Anyone else notice that ALL the Jaffa in this episode had the gold "first prime" seal on their forehead? Does Aphophis just not trust anyone enough anymore to have one first prime, and he feels he has to have several? That wouldn't surprise me though, since both Teal'c and Bratac betrayed him.
Well, this invisible creature was important to the guy, and sinse he's gotta replace both his most trusted first primes, he brings along all his top five guys and tests them out.

Of course, like all first primes, they fail miserably and Apophis is just standing there slapping his head until he takes the staff weapon and kills SG-1.

Hot Dog
February 20th, 2006, 11:09 AM
Here's what I'm wondering...On my dvd (during this ep) Apophis doesn't have a voice track. Does anyone else have this problem? This is the only ep on the dvd that's like this.

Yes, mine does as well...very annoying.

Hira
February 28th, 2006, 10:14 PM
i liked this ep but i was wondering (not sure if any one else picked it up) but when the jaffa stabbed teal'c there was no blood on the knife......apart from that i think it was a good ep.

captain jake
May 3rd, 2006, 07:43 PM
This was a great mission to show us how far we have to go to become part of the 5th race.

BJX
July 8th, 2006, 12:32 PM
I watched this episode and loved it as usual but the one thing that really annoyed me (and this might have been discussed since I haven't read through all the pages) was the p*ss-poor ambush on Apophis. You've got two highly trained and experienced special forces soldiers and an amazing warrior in Teal'c and despite having the enemy surrounded, from an elevated position too, they not only couldn't take down the Jaffa they ended getting themselves killed. Good soldiering guys!;) Still they made up for it later with a successful ambush despit being unarmed.

captain jake
July 9th, 2006, 12:48 AM
I noticed that as well, they could take Apophis with no guns but when they had guns they got themselves killed.

Seamaiden
July 16th, 2006, 12:45 AM
This is one of my favorite episodes. I love the Nox. Are they one of the four races?

When Thor says that humans are on their way to becoming the 5th race (in whatever episode that is), I wonder what 4 races he refers to. I'm guessing, the most powerful.

- Ancients
- Asgard
- Goa'uld
- Nox

Is that correct? If it is, I wonder why the Wraith and Ori don't make that list. Maybe because the Wraith and Ori were thought up in later seasons.

Mr Prophet
July 16th, 2006, 12:56 AM
This is one of my favorite episodes. I love the Nox. Are they one of the four races?

When Thor says that humans are on their way to becoming the 5th race (in whatever episode that is), I wonder what 4 races he refers to. I'm guessing, the most powerful.

- Ancients
- Asgard
- Goa'uld
- Nox

Is that correct? If it is, I wonder why the Wraith and Ori don't make that list. Maybe because the Wraith and Ori were thought up in later seasons.

The four races were the old alliance, the Asgard, Nox, Furlings and Ancients.

Seamaiden
July 16th, 2006, 01:04 AM
The four races were the old alliance, the Asgard, Nox, Furlings and Ancients.

Thank you. In which episode does Thor mention to O'Neill that humans are on their way to becoming the fifth race? Is it in that ep or another one where we learn who the four races are?

Mr Prophet
July 16th, 2006, 01:13 AM
Thank you. In which episode does Thor mention to O'Neill that humans are on their way to becoming the fifth race? Is it in that ep or another one where we learn who the four races are?

That's all in The Fifth Race.

Sheppard
July 16th, 2006, 01:21 AM
as mentioned it was in the Fifth Race in season 2

captain jake
July 16th, 2006, 05:55 AM
The gou'ald are evil they would never be let into that alliance. Another episode that will help you understand it is The Torment of Tantalus. Anyways This is a great episode I just didn't like the whole they brought us back to life thing. How did sg-1 get taken out that easy there was only a few Jaffa and apophis.....?

Sheppard
July 19th, 2006, 08:16 PM
apophis shoot most of them i think not sure but he used his force field

captain jake
July 21st, 2006, 03:50 PM
apophis shoot most of them i think not sure but he used his force field

He used his force field true but sg1 have gone up against countless Jaffa and survived. Yet in this particular battle not only did they have the element of surprise against Apophis but they had him surrounded. The odds where completely in there favor yet they were all dead in less than 5 minutes. I just thought it was way to out of character for sg1 to be literally KILLED.

Other than that I really liked the episode.

SerpentGuard
July 21st, 2006, 07:02 PM
the nox need to be brought back into the series, they are just the best alien species. They won't fight or even defend themselves---hmm i wonder what will happen when the ori find them? will they be able to hide from them? will the nox all be wiped out? i hope not. I'd like to see more of that floating city
:nox: :nox: :nox: :nox: :nox: :nox: :nox: :nox: :nox: :nox: :nox: :nox:

captain jake
July 21st, 2006, 07:31 PM
the nox need to be brought back into the series, they are just the best alien species. They won't fight or even defend themselves---hmm i wonder what will happen when the ori find them? will they be able to hide from them? will the nox all be wiped out? i hope not. I'd like to see more of that floating city
:nox: :nox: :nox: :nox: :nox: :nox: :nox: :nox: :nox: :nox: :nox: :nox:

I agree they do! I believe the Nox to be far more advanced than the Asgard. Therefore if they were approached by the Ori they would just leave and cloak themselves. I don't think the Ori would ever be able to force themselves onto the Nox.

Another thing that I just realized, what are the chances that we would go to that planet at the exact same time as apophis?

Daniel's_twin
July 24th, 2006, 12:09 PM
About the same as every alien culture we've met to be able to speak English (super-brain-powered races nonwithstanding). :cool:

captain jake
July 24th, 2006, 07:05 PM
About the same as every alien culture we've met to be able to speak English (super-brain-powered races nonwithstanding). :cool:

Who was that response for?

Nefreyu
July 26th, 2006, 03:44 AM
Such a shame to not see the Nox again I have always thought they were the most interesting race. I just wish we could actually get an episode that focused on the 4 races and told us a little more about them. The asgard are interesting well Thor is at least. The ancients are well the ancients and thats all I have to say about that. Never met the Furlings although we will this year apparently. The Nox are just amazing, I wanna know more about them. This is the episode that made me start watching every week way back when on showtime.

captain jake
July 26th, 2006, 10:38 AM
Such a shame to not see the Nox again I have always thought they were the most interesting race. I just wish we could actually get an episode that focused on the 4 races and told us a little more about them. The asgard are interesting well Thor is at least. The ancients are well the ancients and thats all I have to say about that. Never met the Furlings although we will this year apparently. The Nox are just amazing, I wanna know more about them. This is the episode that made me start watching every week way back when on showtime.

Perhaps we will see them again I would be surprised if we didn't. Well they have talked about that quite a bit what else do you want to know? I think all of the Asgard are interesting was that sarcasm or am I reading that wrong? I don't read allot of spoilers but I don't think that has ever been confirmed, who knows when we will meet the Furlings.

Nefreyu
July 27th, 2006, 10:37 PM
Perhaps we will see them again I would be surprised if we didn't. Well they have talked about that quite a bit what else do you want to know? I think all of the Asgard are interesting was that sarcasm or am I reading that wrong? I don't read allot of spoilers but I don't think that has ever been confirmed, who knows when we will meet the Furlings.

I wanna know everything about them. Specifically I would really like to know how the great alliance came about. All the races background stories that brought them together in the first place. Don't get me wrong I like the asgard but they all seem the same to me. Thor was the only one who really seemed interesting IMO.

captain jake
July 28th, 2006, 03:44 AM
OK, I just found something else that bothered me about the episode. Is it normal for a gou'ald to go off world with only 3 Jaffa? We have seen gou'ald go off world but never with such small numbers. Teal'c said it was one of his missions to go seek out how the creature was capable of invisibility. Why wouldn't apophis realize that this was not a mission that could be completed by a small group. I think it would have been more realistic if he would have brought 50-100 Jaffa. I suppose the more I analyze the story the more plot holes I will come up with but it's getting ridiculous.

1- What are the chances they would be there the exact time we where.
2- How is it possible that sg-1 were defeated with such ease.
3- Why would apophis go off world with only 3 Jaffa.

These aren't simple little plot holes these are HUGE plot holes. I still believe this to be one of the classic episodes that I will always treasure. However I can't believe that TPTB would make so many convenient plot devices, very disappointing.

JudeMorrigan
August 17th, 2006, 12:00 PM
This is one of my all-time favorite episodes. I'm working my way through the dvds again and watch The Nox again last night, and was reminded about just what a good episode it was. I do think it's a shame we haven't run into them again in more recent seasons. While I admit that we don't know the exact mechanics of their healing powers, it seems like it would have made sense for us to have hopped over to the Nox planet and asked if they could offer us any help with the whole

prior plague thing in season 9.

That's the sort of thing that they'd be able to help with without violating their own code of ethics and seems like the sort of thing that they might have had the ability to possibly do something about. Of course, that would've interfered with how they actually did get help with it, which was cool also. But seeing the Nox there would've been very neat.

Admiral Mappalazarou
August 25th, 2006, 08:08 AM
I think that to the Nox, this was all one big April fools gag and by the time SG-1 had left they were getting drunk in their flying city, reminising over how primitive the Tauri are. lol.
Yeh, although the first series wasn't a big hit for me - This episode was really good, but I say that in almost all of my reviews.

nothing croovus
October 6th, 2006, 07:32 AM
Anyone know why Apophis's voice is missing? I allways assumed it was because they ran out of time to finish it, but I'm still surprised they haven't fixed it by now. It's very confusing that you don't know what Apophis is saying the entire episode. A similar thing happened in "Brief Candle" when Jack is watching the message from Samantha, Daniel and Teal'c you can't hear it. Yet when this scene is viewed again in "politics", then you can hear it.:confused:

saberhagen83
October 7th, 2006, 12:54 AM
Anyone know why Apophis's voice is missing? I allways assumed it was because they ran out of time to finish it, but I'm still surprised they haven't fixed it by now. It's very confusing that you don't know what Apophis is saying the entire episode. A similar thing happened in "Brief Candle" when Jack is watching the message from Samantha, Daniel and Teal'c you can't hear it. Yet when this scene is viewed again in "politics", then you can hear it.:confused:

Hmm I might be wrong, but if I remember the ep right you could hear Apophis speak. But I haven't watched it in a while so not 100% on that. But I remember that you could hear the video message in "Breif Candle". Is this on your DVD set or on TV that this has happened?

nothing croovus
October 7th, 2006, 08:38 AM
It's on my DVDs, but I've seen the same thing on tv. Just watch it again and you'll see. It's quite possible they ran out of time.

saberhagen83
October 7th, 2006, 09:57 AM
Just checked the ep on my DVD. I could hear Apophis speak through the entire ep. Also checked "Breif Candle" just to be sure, you can hear the video message. I got the UK released DVD set.

nothing croovus
October 7th, 2006, 12:07 PM
Well mine is the USA version. It seems strange they didn't mess up on the UK released one. Near the end Apophis says something before Jack throws the knife and then Jack says: again? Could you tell me what it was?

saberhagen83
October 7th, 2006, 12:19 PM
He says "Fool! I will kill you!" to Jack. :)

Hohenzollern
October 7th, 2006, 01:27 PM
I remember that episode. I have the US DVDs, and he does say; "Fool, I will kill you!". I remember this as I was screening them through to make sure they were not buggered, and I would have to return them.

I dozed on the couch, and Apothis' shout came through the center speakers and cause me to start/jolt awake on the couch; nearly soiling my pants.

The earlier season DVDs, I do remember them being Dolby 5.1 or nothing. The mixing does not allow for much if you, say, wanted to watch on a mono TV, or a 2.1 one.

nothing croovus
October 7th, 2006, 10:58 PM
Well I have no idea why his voice is missing on my copy, but I will say this, when someone uploaded the "Nox" on Youtube you couldn't hear him either. May'be it was only the older copies.:confused:

saberhagen83
October 8th, 2006, 12:59 AM
Hmm you are right. Found the ep on Youtube, couldn't hear him at all. Very odd I must say. :tealcanime49:

Hohenzollern
October 8th, 2006, 12:45 PM
Is it possible the version on YouTube does not have all the audio channels present in that copy?

nothing croovus
October 8th, 2006, 05:08 PM
It is possible they made a mistake on the older copies of the "Nox." But I think in the newer one that has all five in one case, I think they fixed it. Does anyone have it, so they can check?

AussieSG-1Fan
November 10th, 2006, 08:17 PM
Did anyone else notice the main Nox character? He played the principal in Buffy The Vampire Slayer - Season 1 - after the first pricipal was eaten.

deadmanjeff
April 22nd, 2007, 10:51 AM
hey guess what this is the 7th ep of stargate sg-1 and the team has already met one of the four great races this is definitely a great episode full of action and stuff the whole team dies but they come back to life and the team makes some friends i recommend never to skip this ep

P-90_177
April 22nd, 2007, 11:04 AM
Did anyone else notice the main Nox character? He played the principal in Buffy The Vampire Slayer - Season 1 - after the first pricipal was eaten.

Yeeeees He also played Quark in DS9.

garhkal
April 23rd, 2007, 12:09 PM
When i recognised him, i wsa like woa... Whats a frengi doing here..:cool:

Eye of Anubis
May 3rd, 2007, 08:39 PM
Wow, im amazed that only one of you noticed that startrek character. Im not even a Startrek fan, and I noticed him.
Hes the leader or father of the nox. And on Startrek, the TV series about the spacestation I think, he was a bar tender and was greedy, had big ears, very ugly, short, sharp teeth.
Its funny really, he doesnt look much different other then the teeth and ears, lol. Cant remember his name, kwerk, kwark, sark? not sure

Theimmortaljedi
July 22nd, 2007, 03:40 AM
I like this one ok enough. It seemed to be a message about strength is not always a physical thing. The weak are not always really weak.

Harlan's Speechwriter
July 30th, 2007, 09:23 PM
I like this one ok enough. It seemed to be a message about strength is not always a physical thing. The weak are not always really weak.

Yes, I think this episode was quite an education fo SG1.

Akai
July 31st, 2007, 08:02 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armin_Shimerman

Theimmortaljedi
August 15th, 2007, 08:55 PM
THe dude did star tek too.

First
September 23rd, 2007, 04:31 PM
I really liked the Nox "maturity". Seeing the Tauri fighting with Apophis would be like an adult watching children fighting. They are very advanced in technology, natural medicine or whatever gives them their powers. But even more advanced in their philosophy. They don't appear advanced, they don't make themselves a target for the power hungry "juvenile" races. They don't need to fight, all they need to do is disappear. They respect life, even of those who would attempt to do them harm.

I liked the conversation:
Jack: "(rather than hiding) Why don't you bury your stargate to stop the gouald coming here?"
Nox elder: "Then they would know someone was here to bury it"

garhkal
September 24th, 2007, 02:29 PM
That was a good quote.. and i loved it later when they used the Nox again (lia) when they evaced the tolans they had brought back to earth...

First
September 24th, 2007, 03:49 PM
LOL, the Nox are so advanced they dont want to associate with us until we grow up.

The Nox are certainly not weak. Can you imagine if Apophis went back there with an army. The lead jaffa turns around and his comrades have disappeared, the stargate disappears, their ships disappear. The Nox could really mess with you if they wanted. Drive you mad, without even having to fight.

Pharaoh Hamenthotep
September 25th, 2007, 11:26 AM
The Nox technology is either so advanced that we don't recognise it as technology (it doesn't always have to be giant, shiny spaceships!) or its hidden like their city!

P-90_177
September 25th, 2007, 11:37 AM
i reckon that their city must have ways of defending itself even if it's something none lethal like putting prisoners in stasis and sending them back where they came from.

Pharaoh Hamenthotep
September 25th, 2007, 11:48 AM
we have seen the Nox teleport (in Pretense) so sending potential enemies back where they came from is possible, although if no one knows about the city how can they attack it?

P-90_177
September 25th, 2007, 12:52 PM
well i more mean if they end up finding the city.

garhkal
September 25th, 2007, 03:21 PM
That makes me wonder, do they mask it by invisibility or by phasing it like the retoo?

Pharaoh Hamenthotep
September 25th, 2007, 03:33 PM
We don't really know enough about the Nox invisibilty ability/technology to be able to answer that question! Although when they made the gate disappear, if it had still been there but invisible SG-1 would have walked into it- been able to feel it and therefore still able to use it, if they could remember the layout of the symbols on the DHD (a bit like typing blindfolded :p)

The Retoo are invisible, they are able to interact with objects in our phase of existance, unlike Daniel when he was out of phase in 'Crystal Skull'

First
September 25th, 2007, 07:38 PM
When Jack shot the arrow at Apophis it seemed to go though where he was standing, suggesting it's an "out of phase" type of thing not just invisibility.

I'm just making stuff up here, but another good high tech passive defence could be to beam your enemies away, and erase their short term memory, so they wouldn't even know that their attack had failed, and forget all about trying it again!

Vhladynineer
October 20th, 2007, 04:27 AM
Most advanced races like the Nox, Tollan, Asgard seem to share the same viewpoint of the Tauri although express it in different ways.

Also, I really liked how O'Neill understood the line "The very young do not always do as they're told." .

SG-1 seem to come from this experience and the later experience with the Tolan ppl with a greater appreciation of the need for allies, not necessarily their "weapons".

I also loved that the Nox came back in future episodes. :)

Fenrir Foxz
November 6th, 2007, 04:39 PM
"the very young do not alway do as they are told"

Some wise words to remember the Nox by... now that tragically SG-1 has been cancelled... There should have been more stories about the Nox, I get a sence that they are similar to the ancients in bother technology and evolution state (prior to ascension)...

It wouldn't suprise me if the Nox don't actually die when they're reaching the end of their life but asend, they are definately asencion material...

garhkal
November 7th, 2007, 03:10 PM
Agreed that it is a pity we never got to have more of the nox on screen.

MartianManhunter
November 10th, 2007, 06:03 AM
We can always hope that, if the movies do well, they'll be in one fo them. Maybe not a huge role, but, but I would like to see there opinion on the Asgard legacy and if they think we were ready for the responsibility.

Fenrir Foxz
November 10th, 2007, 10:46 AM
We can always hope that, if the movies do well, they'll be in one fo them. Maybe not a huge role, but, but I would like to see there opinion on the Asgard legacy and if they think we were ready for the responsibility.

I agree... where as the Asgard introduced Earth to new tech... The Nox should have been there to add wisdom... As one of the four great races ever to inhabit the stars there should have been more episodes of them, perhaps even introducincing the enigmatic Furlings that almost if not all stargate fans wonder about...

anotherdarkjedi
April 16th, 2008, 06:30 PM
probably one of the best episodes ive ever seen on SG-1 The Nox Rule !!!

Theimmortaljedi
April 16th, 2008, 06:31 PM
i have to agree. good episode!!

anotherdarkjedi
April 16th, 2008, 06:33 PM
does anyone think the nox will appear in atlantis ???

anotherdarkjedi
April 16th, 2008, 06:34 PM
eric !!!!!! AHHHHHHH your a shova

Theimmortaljedi
April 16th, 2008, 06:36 PM
I Die FREE:tealc::ronan:

ijffdrie
April 23rd, 2008, 08:24 AM
i also hope the nox will return one day, lets write angry letters...

HelloVelo
May 28th, 2008, 05:02 PM
Would Sam have kept Nafrayu if Jack let her?

My rating: 9/10

Full Review: http://stargatesummer.blogspot.com/2008/05/nox.html

captain jake
June 25th, 2008, 12:21 PM
Like all great things if you could always have it you would eventually get sick of it. The reason why we all like the Nox so much is because they were mystical creatures that we didn't fully understand. I am glad that TPTB didn't take their kind and make them seem less than they were like they did with the Asgard. In th beginning the Asgard were creatures that could blink an entire army of Jaffa out of existence without a single explosion. In the end they were a dying race that couldn't save themselves so they committed mass suicide and gave every bit of knowledge to the SGC.

captain jake
June 25th, 2008, 01:20 PM
By the way does anybody know why it says this is episode 7 on Gateworld, but episode 12 on my DVD set? According to the Air-Dates on Gateworld, Gateworld is correct. However, are Gateworld's dates correct?

L E E
June 27th, 2008, 06:42 AM
The Nox are quite interesting. I thought they were a primitive race at first, in terms of technology at least. But their talents are quite amazing! They can bring back the dead! Like, whoah!

I was a bit disappointed with SG-1 though. They plan an ambush yet they got themselves killed. If it weren't for the Nox... That was a very pathetic ambush!

captain jake
June 27th, 2008, 02:05 PM
The Nox are quite interesting. I thought they were a primitive race at first, in terms of technology at least. But their talents are quite amazing! They can bring back the dead! Like, whoah!

I was a bit disappointed with SG-1 though. They plan an ambush yet they got themselves killed. If it weren't for the Nox... That was a very pathetic ambush!

Well there were a lot of factors that were going against them. First of all they didn't have the ordinance they needed for an attack like that. Also Apophis had a personal shield that they weren't aware of. But most importantly they were outnumbered by personal guards that probably had a lot more training than Daniel or Carter. However, I do agree that they failed completely.

Pic
July 25th, 2008, 12:27 PM
Agreed that the SGC had no idea Apophis had that shield. Otherwise, their ambush was working fine. It didn't fall apart until Jack shot at Apophis to no effect. Then Apophis noticed Jack, turned, and all holy heck opened up on Jack. Carter, probably thinking "first aid", breaks cover and gets shot, etc., etc.

Didn't Apophis only have the two personal guards? So, SGC wasn't necessarily outnumbered. Jack, Teal'c & Sam are military/warrior trained, right? So, 3 to 3+Daniel? Ah well, semantics anyway. I personally think, as former-first-prime, Teal'c gets extra points. :D

I'm all for the Nox being these advanced folks and all, but they just kinda looked silly. Lovable and sweet, but silly. Too bad Jack told Sam they couldn't take the young one home.

supersoldier34
July 25th, 2008, 02:05 PM
By the way does anybody know why it says this is episode 7 on Gateworld, but episode 12 on my DVD set? According to the Air-Dates on Gateworld, Gateworld is correct. However, are Gateworld's dates correct?

one is production order and one is airing order, just my guess;)

pritnep
July 25th, 2008, 09:00 PM
Like all great things if you could always have it you would eventually get sick of it. The reason why we all like the Nox so much is because they were mystical creatures that we didn't fully understand.

Completely agree they seem to just have power and in your technological age that seems impossible that they could do what they do when they seem to be so privative. But I guess the very young do not always understand.

I loved seeing Apophis in his gold amour, it looks so cool especially with his personal shield.

The episode was another of those interference episodes but this time at least SG-1 was wrong as The Nox had a way and had seemed to survive for centuries without becoming enslaved.

Overall a good episode, although their lack of new technology can't please the overseers to the Stargate program.

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7397/normalsg1107007rt8.jpg
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/9527/normalsg1107070wf2.jpg

gateship15
August 22nd, 2008, 01:25 AM
i just love how the nox can hide themselfs and also how they can heal wounds i would one of them around my house

Hornet
September 9th, 2008, 10:03 AM
One of the most interesting episode of S1. when I first watched it, little did I know that the Nox was one of the 4 great civilization alliance

Pic
September 9th, 2008, 11:53 AM
One of the most interesting episode of S1. when I first watched it, little did I know that the Nox was one of the 4 great civilization alliance

Welcome, Hornet!
Yes, the Nox are certainly a deceptively simple looking race, aren't they?

Jaffa-master
November 2nd, 2008, 12:37 PM
Great Episode beacuse we saw Apoppis.

RononXSpecialist
November 6th, 2008, 02:11 AM
Yep the nox are definitly one of the cooler races :D

Don't look at the spoiler if u dont wanna know :O

Never get to see the history into the nox or more technology by them in the SG1 series =\

Pic
November 8th, 2008, 08:05 AM
Yep the nox are definitly one of the cooler races :D

Don't look at the spoiler if u dont wanna know :O

Never get to see the history into the nox or more technology by them in the SG1 series =\

Yes, they had a lot of unexplored potential from the earlier seasons.

stargatesquee
November 8th, 2008, 02:31 PM
I have been wavering between liking this episode and boredom with it. The boredom probably because I've seen it 13 times. No, seriously. i did think that the hair of the nox were hilarious, but i think they needed a bit more humour in this ep. Overall, I thought it was good for the first season, though the plot was not great.

ancient87
December 3rd, 2008, 11:52 PM
To me, the ending came as a great surprise. I had watched the whole episode thinking that the Nox was simply a primitive race. then, suddenly, they showed us the invisible flying city and we learned that the Nox was really one of the most advanced races in the known universe and quickly realized that their invisibility and healing abilities could rather be the result of technology. Sadly, they faded away in favor of the more Popular Asgard race. It would be great to have them show up somehow in Stargate Atlantis. Since they're so advanced, they must have access to starships, that is able to travel between our galaxy and the Pegasus galaxy in a matter of days if not hours.

Is there a "Save the Nox" campain somewhere?

hedwig
December 15th, 2008, 08:18 AM
Would Sam have kept Nafrayu if Jack let her?

My rating: 9/10

Full Review: http://stargatesummer.blogspot.com/2008/05/nox.html

I assume you mean the question in humor? The Nox would never have allowed anyone as "primitive" as the tauri to take their child with them. Besides, he wasn't an orphan - I assume he was the child of Lya and Anteaus.

Mousie
December 15th, 2008, 08:42 AM
Is there a "Save the Nox" campain somewhere?

Not sure that there would be as there isn't really any point.

gateship15
December 15th, 2008, 11:27 PM
the nox may seem primitive but don't they have a floating city.

hedwig
December 16th, 2008, 08:12 AM
the nox may seem primitive but don't they have a floating city.

They do indeed. Appearances are very deceiving.:)

leiasky
December 16th, 2008, 10:29 AM
I would LOVE to see them again in a future movie. There are SO many more stories to tell. And its too bad we won't get to see the original and best team (SG-1) on a regular basis anymore.

gateship15
December 17th, 2008, 12:42 AM
They do indeed. Appearances are very deceiving.:)

yes very deceiving

Major Clanger
December 21st, 2008, 09:52 AM
I read a fantastic short Sci-Fi story once where some travellers from space came back to their homeworld after many generations of separation. They were shocked at the low-tech society it had become. But after a while it became apparent that they were very advanced, technologically speaking, indeed - but they didn't use their tech because they preferred the lo-tech way.

Perhaps the Nox are like that.

cobraR478
February 6th, 2009, 06:38 PM
Its easy to scold people for defending themselves when you can become invisible and have healing abilities.

gateship15
February 7th, 2009, 12:23 AM
thats true

Malviris
February 7th, 2009, 12:40 AM
I wonder how could the Nox evolve into this state ...i mean certain creatures evolve survive but what was their first enemy before the Goa'uld? to make them take a defensive stance and not an offensive step.

gateship15
February 7th, 2009, 04:06 AM
i don't know but i would like to because everything has a reason to evolve

Malviris
February 7th, 2009, 04:09 AM
That is true about evolving

gateship15
February 20th, 2009, 12:58 AM
:) yep environmental reasons would make any animal evolve

Butlersgate
February 23rd, 2009, 09:23 AM
ahh the controversal nox, the young do not always do as they are told...and the old do not always consider that their ways are selfish.

gateship15
February 24th, 2009, 12:16 AM
true lol altho that was a good lesion and so true

The Stig
April 20th, 2009, 02:27 PM
i found the nox a really frustrating species because they have the technology to defeat the goauld and yet they don't. Sure its due to their belifs but not killing is one of the 10 commandments and we still do it in order to defeat the goauld.

Spimman
May 7th, 2009, 06:04 AM
That is our way, and how do you know they have that technology? The likely have developed virtually no offensive weapons at all.

Erika
May 11th, 2009, 02:32 PM
I think the Nox were more advanced than any technology known and because of this they did not need to use aggresiveness in any way.
What a wonderful ideal race
My favorites

gateship15
May 12th, 2009, 03:49 AM
i agree with that

Coela Bellatore
May 12th, 2009, 04:48 AM
I think the Nox were more advanced than any technology known and because of this they did not need to use aggresiveness in any way.
What a wonderful ideal race
My favorites

Maybe in your opinion, maybe they just find our meager intellect to be beneath them. Like bugs, its no great saving grace to spare them, but squashing them on purpose doesn't really have a point. The Nox hide away while billions of people suffer under the Goa'uld, not very nice.

Reminds me of a quote:

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
John Stuart Mill
English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)

I would say that by those moral the humans are a better race than the Nox.

gateship15
May 13th, 2009, 06:43 AM
wow interesting great point of veiw when you look at it like that it makes sence and in that way of looking you are correct someone who does nothing and sits by is just as bad as the person who did it

Cheerful Dragon
May 19th, 2009, 07:09 AM
An interesting episode. O'Neill and the team were prepared to fight and risk their lives to protect the Nox from the Goa'uld. The Nox just wanted to be left in peace. Their determined 'non-aggression' could put others at risk. As long as the Goa'uld went away and left them alone, they didn't seem to care what happened to anybody else. From one point of view the Nox were good people, so unagressive they wouldn't even kill for food. From another point of view their refusal to face the Goa'uld's impact on other races was the worst kind of passiveness.

Other than that, it showed how people can get obsessed with a thing, when what they want is really something quite different. The Goa'uld and SG-1 were convinced the fenri had the ability to go invisible, when it was really the Nox. It's also interesting to compare Daniel's actions in this episode with the way he became in later seasons. Right now the thing that's driving him is finding Sha're, such that he won't even consider the Nox's way of life. By the end of season 5, he was ready to ascend. Quite a change.

Ozman
May 21st, 2009, 08:06 AM
The Nox seem to be at the point at which thay are almost ready to ascend. They don't get involved in the happenings in the Milky Way. Have vast knowledge of the universe, highly advanced technology, can probably defeat the Goa-uld, happy to let the galaxy be enslaved and live peacefully alone, seems as though they are following the path set by the Ancients.

But I do love them especially Lya (Frida Betrani)

http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu24/Ozman_01/Frida.jpg

gateship15
May 23rd, 2009, 07:32 AM
it does doesn't it

WishIwasJoes
May 23rd, 2009, 08:35 AM
The nox are a great example of "Bad things happen when good men do nothing." It was an ok episode not one of my favs.

Leucothea29
June 3rd, 2009, 10:16 AM
I guess they could only bring someone back if they were sorta dead. If they were mostly dead or all dead the only thing to do would be to go through their clothes and look for loose change.
Ok, this was a while ago, but I'd just like to say I loved the quote from The Princess Bride.

This was probably one of my more favorite episodes. I'm not sure why, but I liked it. Maybe it was just that I liked the idea of the Nox.You could say they're peaceful and do nothing, but they do quite a bit by keeping their technology out of the hands of the others who would use it for harm. That should count for something.

Gamira_The Goauld_Princess
July 14th, 2009, 12:23 PM
I like the Nox.They are one of my favorite races in Stargate.They are just cute and with interesting abillities.But also they have especially point of view.

lordofseas
August 2nd, 2009, 08:11 PM
Ya, I like the Nox. They seem like the only race in the galaxy that understands the concept of being neutral and peaceful. They are my 2nd favourite race in the SG universe, second only to the Tollan.

Tachyon
November 29th, 2009, 06:32 AM
Awwh.. the Nox. Aren't they cute? ;)

Though I kept seeing Quark from Deep Space Nine almost the entire time. Tee hee.

This is an alright episode for me. Re-watchable as well. :)

gateship15
November 30th, 2009, 12:07 AM
i agree

Major Clanger
November 30th, 2009, 09:04 AM
For some reason, and this is a very new thought from me. They somehow remind me of the Borrowers.

I'll get my coat.

gateship15
November 30th, 2009, 05:20 PM
lol they do kind of remind me of them to. but the borrowers were alot smaller

AresLover452
November 30th, 2009, 05:29 PM
the borrowers were lke a foot tall and lived in the walls.


i the first time I saw this eppy I was like QUARK...

But i like Nefreyu, Nia, and the old dude.. they were kewl.

gateship15
November 30th, 2009, 06:16 PM
true.

when i first watched this ep i thought oo how cute

AresLover452
November 30th, 2009, 07:03 PM
The little boy was adorable.

gateship15
November 30th, 2009, 08:02 PM
yes he was adorable

AresLover452
November 30th, 2009, 08:06 PM
I got so mad when Apophis killed him i was like, You loser killing a kid."

gateship15
November 30th, 2009, 08:09 PM
yea its a horrible thing to do. but i guess that shows alot about him to he is just a horrible horrible person

AresLover452
November 30th, 2009, 08:10 PM
I sure the host wasn't but that snake in his head was a piece of work.... so glad the dude is dead.... lol!!

gateship15
November 30th, 2009, 08:19 PM
i agree the host wasn't bad. but the snake was horrible.

Noxbait
December 30th, 2009, 10:41 AM
This is my first post...just thought I'd jump in and give this a try! I have to admit I have always loved the Nox. I think they are a very interesting race and would love to see them more often! For being in so few episodes, I think they nevertheless influenced SG1 in a big (and good) way. My personal opinion is that the Furlings are closely related to the Nox. What a great meeting it would be if the five races should ever finally get together!

mrscopterdoc
February 3rd, 2010, 03:38 PM
Though I kept seeing Quark from Deep Space Nine almost the entire time. Tee hee.
:)
me too :D

hawk97135
February 7th, 2010, 11:19 PM
This is my 1st post in this forum. This is one of my favorite episodes of season 1. My favourite being Solitudes. I really like the look on Jack and Daniel's face when the Nox first speak. It's classic. and also the classic line 'The very young do not always do what they're told'

Supreme Commander Sil
February 8th, 2010, 12:19 AM
This is my first post...just thought I'd jump in and give this a try! I have to admit I have always loved the Nox. I think they are a very interesting race and would love to see them more often! For being in so few episodes, I think they nevertheless influenced SG1 in a big (and good) way. My personal opinion is that the Furlings are closely related to the Nox. What a great meeting it would be if the five races should ever finally get together!

I really, really, really loved this episode too :D! The Nox are awesome :D! And I love their music (which plays, for example when they are healing) :P. Good old SG1 :D! I miss this series so much :(. Atlantis is also awesome, but also gone :(... Maybe they will be in a movie :P? That would be awesome :D! If the humans were granted worthy enough to go to their city and study their culture, etc :D! Or are we still too "young" :P?

We should consider new SG spin-offs. SGN- Stargate Nox :D!


EDIT: ^ :indeed::D!

chrono trigger
February 8th, 2010, 08:03 AM
This is my 1st post in this forum. This is one of my favorite episodes of season 1. My favourite being Solitudes. I really like the look on Jack and Daniel's face when the Nox first speak. It's classic. and also the classic line 'The very young do not always do what they're told'

i agree about both episodes being brilliant sg1 has the best eps of them all in my opinion

lkg1980
February 8th, 2010, 09:01 AM
QUARK MY BOYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

Christine

maneth
February 15th, 2010, 08:47 AM
Great ep, although the revelation at the end wasn't exactly a surprise. There had to be something more to the Nox for them to have survived so long.

StargateWatcher
March 18th, 2010, 03:01 AM
yes they r great xpression to use

StargateWatcher
March 18th, 2010, 03:03 AM
This is my first post...just thought I'd jump in and give this a try! I have to admit I have always loved the Nox. I think they are a very interesting race and would love to see them more often! For being in so few episodes, I think they nevertheless influenced SG1 in a big (and good) way. My personal opinion is that the Furlings are closely related to the Nox. What a great meeting it would be if the five races should ever finally get together!

agree Nox=fairies Furling=elves

Vagabond Serpent
April 2nd, 2010, 08:49 AM
An outstanding episode. Nothing to add. But I'm very upset that we never saw much of the Nox later. It's one of the four greatest races and I think they deserve some more interaction.

EDIT: 9/10

StargateWatcher
April 20th, 2010, 12:11 PM
Who knows what the Nox can do? Its never said in this episode exactly how thier Ritual of Life works

true; seems to work a bit like the Spirits' life-energy-regiving process tho requires less people to do

[QUOTE=Mr Prophet;30439]I guess they could only bring someone back if they were sorta dead. If they were mostly dead or all dead the only thing to do would be to go through their clothes and look for loose change.
witty; tho the Nox bein the ethical, philosophical beings they are wouldn't steal n probably don't use any form of currency to obtain what they need


I'd like to have a look inside their technology and see what tricks they have up their sleeves.

expression could work literally; perhaps they've got devices hidden in their shirtsleeves


After all, any suffiently advanced technology would appear to be magic to the uninformed.

nice classic sci-fi quote


I liked this episode the second i saw it. And now, 7 year later, it's one of my all time favs.
mine too; think represents some o' best potential o Stargate SG-1


If s8 is to be the last sg1 i believe they will have to return or it will leave too many unanswered questions....and when are we gonna see the furlings I want answers. .
:(
personally me too...still waitin for those Furlings even more than the Nox


I really liked this episode also. Nearly all members of SG-1 killed, the first sign of political intervention into the SGC, and our first meet-up with one of the Four Races of the Great Alliance. What I don't get is why so many people seem to want to put down the Nox for deciding to live in peaceful harmony with the planet they're on instead of going around the galaxy showing off just how powerful they are. Make no mistake, they are powerful. They just choose not to show it.
It's too bad we didn't listen to them, or we might have been able to interact on a bigger level instead of just seeing them two more times after this.

a very powerful pacifistic race; think they respected we wanted to protect them tho didn;t like our methods they could've just showed us they were very able to self-defend


[QUOTE=lionel_pendergast_rocks;176748]i want another episode with the nox. maybe a time travel thing where the team goes back in time to find them with the other 3 members of the alliance. (go furlings) but thats not what this thread is about. i have to say that the nox are pretty cool, doing that invisible thing. at the end of the episode, was that a floating city or a ship?
someone's written a fanfic on this plot-Stargate Genesis


Maybe it was a city on a ship! The both of best worlds!
kind of like Atlantis-perhaps a city-ship =]

hedwig
May 19th, 2010, 01:03 PM
Whilst watching this episode for the umpteenth time (I like the Nox:)), I noticed a little blooper toward the end. It's near the scene where the adults are healing Nafrayu, and SG1 is planning another trap for Apophis. I had assumed it was Daniel laying on the ground and Sam was covering him up with branches so he was hidden. He was wearing a helmet and Sam was wearing a helmet. They were the only two in the episode wearing helmets. Jack was wearing his baseball cap throughout the episode. However, just after Sam steps away from the man on the ground to take cover herself, the camera switches to Daniel standing behind a tree holding Teal'c's staff weapon. And I went "huh?" How can Daniel be in two places at the same time? So during the ensuing battle, the guy on the ground leaps up to attack one of the Jaffa and it's Jack, not Daniel. So now there are three team members wearing helmets. After that scene Jack has his baseball cap back on again. He didn't bring a helmet with him through the gate, so where did that third helmet come from? :D And in the last scene with the whole team at the gate, Sam and Daniel are wearing helmets and Jack is wearing his baseball cap. No big deal. Just a little screw-up in continuity apparently. :D